1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should Know? 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: From House Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff you should know you paranoid 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: or something. I just looked over my shoulder for Chuck Bryant. No, 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: that's that guy's going after me, the real Chuck Bryan. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: Don't don't worry about him. Okay, he's taking care of Yeah. Good, 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: go back to being Armonton's area. Supposedly that was the 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: worst one ever. That's what Matt Greening said. I think so, Matt. 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: You told me once that, Matt Greening, it was asked 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: if there was one Simpsons that he could just take 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: a mulligan on and just not exist. You told me. 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: I don't think I did, because I've never heard that. 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: That's disappointing because I love that episode. That's the episode 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: that I based my episode on. Yeah, we've had this conversation, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, all right, well you just make up Matt 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Graining quotes, right, Um, Chuck? Yes, speaking of TV? Uh, 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: did you ever see the season three episode of Magnum 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: P I called forty Years from Sand Island. No, you haven't. 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I've seen them all, dude, No, tell me what it 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: was about, and I'll verify that. But I've just said yes, Well, 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean I saw every Magnum, so I assume I've 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: seen it. Well. This one starts out in a Japanese 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: internment camp in Oahu called sand Island, and um, there's 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: a murder a guard. One of the guards murders this, uh, 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: this internee, I guess, and so what we means she 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: worked at the camp for fighting with that college credit um, 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 1: although there are some similarities between internment camps and internment um. 30 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: But this, this internee is murdered by this camp guard, 31 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: and uh, Higgins is writing a book forty years later 32 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: about this incident, and some mysterious things starting to happen, 33 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: and somebody's out to whack him. Some Magnum's got to 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: solve the case. Who was Higgins the guy who killed 35 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: the person? Did it haunt him years later? No? I 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: don't remember how he learned about it, like maybe from 37 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: hearsay or something like that, and he was doing research 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: on it. I don't know why he was writing a 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: book on it. I don't remember the episode there forty 40 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: years from Sand Island season three. It was a good one, 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: like they'd really hit their stride by then. But the 42 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: crazy thing is Sand Island really existed. It was a 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: Japanese internment camp and it didn't make this list. Strangely enough, 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: where was it? Who? Yeah, that wasn't in here, was it? No? 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: But it is. It was the main internment camp where um, 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Japanese and Japanese Americans were intern during World War two. 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Because something that I think probably especially a lot of 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: our younger listeners haven't found out yet. Uh, the United 49 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: States interned a number of its citizens unconstitutional lead during 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: World War two. You know that one Simpsons where there 51 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: it's the soccer one? Uh give me more. Well there 52 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: they go to see this um their professional soccer team 53 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, and they're in the soccer stadium. Margin looks 54 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: around and goes, I can't believe this used to be 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: an internment camp. Oh that's good stuff. Yeah. There are 56 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: a lot of shelters, temporary places set up, and a 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: lot of people were moved through them. There's a lot 58 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: of misery and heartache. Let's talk about it too. Simpsons, Uh, 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: and a magnum in the first six minutes. That is stellar. Yes, 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about it, all right, Josh. On 61 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: December seven, very awful thing happened, the Japanese attack Pearl 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Harbor by surprise. I didn't know what's coming, and Michael 63 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: Bay ultimately made a pretty bad movie about it. I 64 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: actually went to see that and left after the attack, 65 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: just because that's you know, that's what I was there for. 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I didn't need to see the love story attached, all right. 67 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Moving on, President F. D. R at the time said, uh, 68 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna relocate about a hundred thousand Japanese and Japanese 69 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Americans put him in uh what he called concentration camps. Yeah, 70 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: which he wouldn't use that term today for these now 71 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: they're they're associated with Nazis exactly. And Jane mcgrathroy wrote, 72 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: this went to a lot of length to um to 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: differentiate the two a little unnecessarily. I mean, I don't 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: think anyone thought of them as the same thing. It 75 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: was a fine article, Jane, it was, But that was 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: not how it started, is it, Josh. He started out 77 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: a little slower and it sort of grew from there. Yeah, Well, 78 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: there was apparently intelligence that even before the attack on 79 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor UM in the on the Pacific coast, especially 80 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: in areas like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, there were 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: UM spy rings of Japanese and Japanese Americans UM being 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: set up. So right after the attack, UM they rounded 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: up about fifteen hundred aliens that they suspected of possibly 84 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: being engaged in spionage, and not just Japanese, but also 85 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: like Italians, Italian Americans, Germans and German Americans, the people 86 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: who brought us some liberty cabbage and stuff like that. 87 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: All right, so he reviews these people, finds out what 88 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: they're all about. He hasn't paraded in front of his desk, 89 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: and he's like that guy looks okay, not that one. 90 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: Well that's sort of what happened. And uh, some of 91 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: the aliens were released and some were sent to temporary 92 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: detention camps. Canada. If you think you're off the hook, 93 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: you're not, yeah, because you did the same thing. Yeah, 94 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: twenty thousand people UM. And I wonder how much how 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: much of that had to do with Canada UM bowing 96 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: to pressure from the US. I wonder. I wonder which 97 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: makes it even more shameful on us on both parties. 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: But so a couple of months after Pearl Harbor, and 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: this was I guess after the review of right, Yes, 100 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: that's when he issued the Executive Order nine zero six six, 101 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: which gave the military the power to create zones. And 102 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: what it says here is zones in which any or 103 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: all persons may be excluded. So that means they did 104 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: it like really indirectly. That's what I thought. They basically said, like, 105 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: you can't live here, you can't own property here at 106 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: the very least, you can't be here right now, but 107 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: you happen to live here. The military has designated this 108 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: like as an exclusionary zone, but we have this free 109 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: housing over here that you can come take advantage of um. 110 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 1: And I think that's how it was kind of sould 111 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: at first, But it became very obvious that the Japanese 112 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: didn't have a choice in moving to these camps. That's 113 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: the impression I have. That's the impression I have too, 114 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about them. They set up first 115 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: assembly Areas, which were temporary camps from February until the summer. Right, 116 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: first generation and second generation Japanese Americans, you say, which 117 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: is first generation, and Nissa which is second generation. And 118 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: they actually got folks from both coasts, although it was 119 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: largely West coast. It was almost Yeah, it was mostly 120 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: West coast because that's much closer to Japan than the 121 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: East coast, of course, and that's what the intel supposedly 122 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: said that they were living anyway, and they were also 123 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I saw a government propaganda film from when they started this. 124 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Camps were being built, so it would have been made 125 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: in like nineteen and Um. Basically they were they were 126 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: saying like we just you know, there's just too many 127 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Japanese and these you know, large populations, they're not spread 128 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: out because they left people alone in Atlanta and Dallas 129 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: and New York generally, Um, because they were diffuse. Uh. 130 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: One of the reasons they went after the West coast 131 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: because they were huge concentrations of Japanese Americans and Japanese 132 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: that they were just worried about, you know, them coming 133 00:07:54,120 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: up with problems. That's what the propaganda film said. If 134 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: they said problems, they didn't say problems. That was what 135 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: they're conveying. One of the problems here with how this 136 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: went down was they only got a couple of weeks. Notice, 137 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: at most they had to leave their homes with whatever 138 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: they could carry and go to these assembly centers. Can I, um, 139 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: can I tell you one more thing from the propaganda film, 140 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: So when they're for they show them putting up signs 141 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: that might as well say like you didn't get out. 142 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: It was basically like if you're if you are Japanese 143 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: or second generation Japanese, you you can't be here. You 144 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: have to go meet here at this time and we'll 145 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: process you. And basically processing meant here are some government 146 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: enlisted lawyers and they're going to um they're going to 147 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: help you basically sell your home and business and whatever 148 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: for a loss. In most cases, you don't have a choice. 149 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: Now did they force all that or strongly encourage them 150 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: as far as like selling their they forced it. But 151 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: the propaganda film, which I recommend anybody seeing, I cant 152 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: remera what it's called. But um, it's only like ten 153 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: minutes long, but man, they pack a lot into it. 154 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: They say like the Japanese and Japanese Americans are happy 155 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: to help out. They're happy to prove their loyalty. Basically 156 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: they're doing their part by getting off of the West Coast. 157 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: That's how this propaganda film made. It seems very interesting. 158 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of them were forced to sell 159 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: their stuff, often less than market value, right, So they're 160 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: starting off on a bad note to begin with. And 161 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: this is just what the temporary housing. Then in UH 162 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: late summer they had finally set up ten of these 163 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: internment camps ready open for business. The w r A, 164 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: the War Relocation Authority UH put up places in California, Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, Arkansas, 165 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: and it gets Hawaii. In Hawaii, even though that didn't 166 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: make this list. Sand Island, Sand Island, and they were guarded, 167 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: they were bar wired, they had hospitals, they had basically 168 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: everything you need to live, schools, little forms of government. Yeah, 169 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: there was no UM, there was no Basically they put 170 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: them in the in the camps, guarded them so they 171 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: couldn't they weren't allowed to leave or um come in 172 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: and out freely. But inside the camps that was up 173 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: to the Japanese to form their own democratic self government. 174 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: And they did this kind of like block captains and 175 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: things like that. Subpark conditions. Yeah, definitely, even the w 176 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: r A said that at the time, UH kind of 177 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: like army barracks. One family per room. You got you caught, 178 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: You got your mattress, you got a stove in a light, 179 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: you got some blankets. Right. The problem was, or one 180 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: of the problems was that these barracks, let's say there 181 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: were five apartments in the barracks, they were separated by 182 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: four walls, and the walls didn't go all the way 183 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: to the ceiling. So there was like no privacy in 184 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: a very private culture. Oh yeah, sure, So they started 185 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: wrecking their cultural heritage off the bat basically much uh, 186 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: public laundry, public bathroom facilities, mess hall. So they got 187 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: a small allowance of money foreclose personal expenditures and the like, 188 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: but it was pretty dang low. Um. And so if 189 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: they wanted a more comfortable life in there, they would 190 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: dip into your personal savings. Right. So that started wrecking 191 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: them on the financial front as well. Yeah, and the 192 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: low wages also, um had a strange indirect effect Chuck, 193 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: And that Um, the parents and the kids who were 194 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: old enough to work, we're making the same amount of money. Yeah. 195 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: One of the things that you know, one of the 196 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: ways parents exert controller of their children is like, I 197 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: make more than yeah, not, we make the exact same 198 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: amount of money. So that wrecked the family home front 199 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more. It definitely eroded authority among parents. 200 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I mentioned that they could dip into 201 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: their savings. Not the case with um first generation Japanese 202 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: because their assets were actually frozen, so they didn't have 203 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: the option to spend their own money. But you say 204 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: that they earned and put in the bank, right, Okay, 205 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: So like you said, they tried their best to do 206 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: normal things set up like baseball leagues. Evidently the Japanese 207 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: love baseball. Yeah. I saw a m I saw an 208 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: art um exhibit at a Smithsonian why was the Renwick 209 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Gallery in DC, and they had um. It was called 210 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Garmin the Art of the Internment camps. And a couple 211 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: of things they had were some like handmade baseball jerseys 212 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: for the leagues that they set up there. Yeah, that's 213 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: pretty cool. It was very cool. There's a lot of 214 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: really interesting stuff that bet is that was that still 215 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,599 Speaker 1: on display right now or it just ended January? I 216 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: looked it out. I was gonna tell everybody to go 217 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: everyone in d C at least, Well, I bet it'll 218 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: set up somewhere else, So keep it out for it 219 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: fingers cross. Um. One of the other ways that sort 220 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: of wrecked the cultural family front was that Japanese traditionally 221 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: eate together as family family time, meal time, and now 222 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: that uh, the little boys and girls were living close 223 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: to their friends, they like, we're really hot to go 224 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: over and eat dinner with their friends. So that fractured 225 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: the family even more. Yeah. Plus, also, if you didn't 226 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: want people to know you were arguing with your wife, 227 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: you better not do it in the barracks, because again, 228 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: the walls didn't go all the way to the top. 229 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: That's right. Um, there's just a lot more insight into 230 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: your neighbors private life than than the Japanese were ever 231 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: comfortable with. Yeah. I don't think any culture would be 232 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: fully comfortable with those conditions. I agree. But yeah, so 233 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: let's move forward to three when the w r A says, 234 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we should let some of these 235 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: folks out to go to school and work, and let's 236 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: make a questionnaire and base their release on this the 237 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: results of this. Yeah, so you have that questionnaire, Well, 238 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of personal information, like, um, you 239 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: know where are you're born? Uh, can you give five 240 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: character references, five work references, and there's some other kind 241 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: of odd questions like, UM, name some newspapers that you 242 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: subscribe to a regularly read UM, what are your hobbies 243 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: and interests? Uh? Would you volunteer for the Army Nurse Corps? 244 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Would you denot's there for Japan? What are some other 245 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: hobbies of your interests to you? They just slipped that 246 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: denouncing emperor of Japan in there, Yeah, and a lot 247 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: of people hopped at this opportunity. They saw what it 248 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: was and they said, sure totally. All I'm an American 249 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: citizen anyway, So yeah, that's fine, I'll denounced the Emperor 250 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: of Japan. One thing we I don't think we really 251 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: touched on, Chuck. There was a hundred and twelve thousand 252 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: people who were relocated to these internment camps. Seven thousand 253 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: of them were, no doubt about it, American citizens. UM. 254 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, there are a lot of people who were 255 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: happy to sign this UM pledge of allegiance basically or 256 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: pledge of loyalty, and those who did were released. There 257 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: are a lot of people who took it the opposite way. Well, 258 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: they were released just to go to work in school 259 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: at the time, right, they weren't released released, were they 260 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: I think, Uh yeah, I think that that did gain 261 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: them early release or release before other people. UM. Yeah, 262 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: well I think they were allowed to leave for work 263 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: or school, but they weren't like released release at that 264 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: time at least okay. UM. There were some other people 265 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: who took great offense to these questionnaires UM and refused 266 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: to sign them. And there was actually a big protest 267 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: at tool Lake. UM. And even if they were citizens, 268 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: American citizens refused to Yeah, there are actually people who 269 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: renounced their citizenship in the face of being forced to 270 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: sign this loyalty oath on top of already being a citizen. 271 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: So they actually verbally renounced their citizenship. At tool Lake 272 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: there was a mass protest UM. And there was a 273 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: guy named Jimmy Americatani who had a pretty cool UM 274 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: documentary made about him, Cat the Cats Americatani. He was 275 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: at tool Lake, he denounced the citizenship. UM. He was 276 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: finally released from the camps when they were closed uh 277 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: and basically went to be homeless. And he didn't realize 278 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: that his citizenship had been restored in nineteen fifty nine, 279 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: and as recently as like two thousand two, he still 280 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: thought he was like an illegal alien living on the streets, 281 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: almost like a Japanese drags kind of. Yeah. Yeah, he 282 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: was like, that's exactly what he was, like, was a 283 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: Japanese straggler of the camps. Basically. Wow. Yeah, it's really interesting. 284 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: It's it's worth seeing. But I love it. He state 285 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: in the United States in New York. He's actually he 286 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: was a master artist. He was really good. Yeah, you 287 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: should check it out. Well. But yeah, most if not 288 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: all of the people who were in this protest at 289 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: tool Lake and renounced their citizenship. Um. There was this 290 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: one lawyer who went back and said, dude, they did 291 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: this under durest. It shouldn't have been in the camps 292 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: in the first place. Let's restore their citizenship. And I 293 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: think most, if not all, had their citizenship restored years later. Yeah, alright, Josh, 294 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: let's go to ninety four December. Uh, this finally comes 295 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: to an end after a lot of public outcry. Uh, 296 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: they were allowed to leave, Um, but they couldn't exactly 297 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: just jump back into their regular life in many cases 298 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: because a lot of times their business or property was 299 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: taken over or neglected in shambles. At this point, and 300 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: an alarming amount of money. Yeah, four hundred million dollars 301 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: in financial losses by the Japanese internees in two thousand nine. 302 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: That's about five point two billion, but I think lower 303 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: now because I looked up at different calculator. It's at 304 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: four point eight So maybe it went down since two 305 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: thousand nine. Deflation. Deflation good? So what was what's the 306 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: problem here? Why is this a big deal? Why should 307 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: I care? Is this constitutional? Well? Yeah it is. It 308 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: was extremely unconstitutional. UM A panel later found out right, 309 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: And of course I was being facetious with that. By 310 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: the way of UM, there was this girl named mits 311 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Sue Endo who was a twenty two year old. She 312 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: was born and raised in Sacramento. UM had never been 313 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: to Japan, couldn't. I don't think she could speak or 314 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: read Japanese. And she was interned at one of these 315 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: camps UM and she basically appealed. She she appealed for 316 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: a writ of habeas corpus we've talked about before. It 317 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: got denied. She started appealing up to the Supreme Court. 318 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: Supreme Court got ahold of it and was like, this 319 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: woman should be granted unconditional release immediately. And that opened 320 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: the floodgates for every other US citizen who was intern 321 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: there UM. And then eventually that couple with the popular 322 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: outcry against it because people even while it was going on, 323 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Americans everyday, Americans who were saying, this is horribly wrong. Yeah, 324 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: it was pretty controversial. And so finally, even before the 325 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: war ended, the camps were shut down. But this wasn't 326 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: before some people died. Oh are you talking about the 327 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 1: on the island. That's different, but we can talk about that. Well, 328 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: let's talk about both. At the UM the art exhibit 329 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: I was telling you about the Renwick Gallery, there was 330 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: this guy UM named Shura Obada and he did some 331 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: really cool ink illustrations. But one of the ones he 332 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: did was an old man doubled over and there's a 333 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: dog nearby, and there's the fence and then the mountains 334 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: in the background. And if you read the caption beneath 335 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: the explanation, it's of an actual event that took place UM. 336 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: An old man who was deaf was chasing a stray dog, 337 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: trying to catch it, and apparently a guard was shouting 338 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: at him forgetting to get away from the fence. Old 339 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: man was deaf, didn't hear it. The guard shot him 340 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: to death. This is in one of the camps. Yeah, 341 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: and I mean, like if this is unconstitutional, it never 342 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: should have happened, then just that alone is makes it horrific, 343 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: you know. But then there are a lot of other 344 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: people who who died of um, just deplorable conditions in 345 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: the Aleutian Islands, right, Yeah, I mean it wasn't just 346 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: rounded up in the United States, as we found out 347 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: when we read this, Uh, Japan was apparently we got 348 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: word that Japan was going to attack the Aleutian Islands 349 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: Kiska and A two, so before they did so, we said, 350 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: let's get in there and round up Ah, I guess 351 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: is it was it locals, Yeah, the Nihan, the Unan Gas, 352 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: Union Gas, un Gas. Yeah. I don't understand is why. 353 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they weren't Japanese American, they weren't American. Why 354 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: did we round them up for their own protection? Supposedly? Well, 355 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: I think not even supposedly. I think that was the 356 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: whole thing, that that we were pretty sure the Japanese 357 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: were going to capture this island, which they did, so 358 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: we were we evacuated them from their home. Okay, Well, 359 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: sadly what happened though was eighty one of these uh 360 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: unan Gas were rounded up and they saw U servicemen 361 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: burning their houses and their villages down, so the Japanese 362 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: couldn't use them. So the Japanese couln't use them, and 363 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: that that that was just when they were setting sail 364 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: for their new home, where like, you can't stay here, 365 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna take you someplace where a lot of 366 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: you are gonna die, okay, So they took them um 367 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: further into Alaska and basically used an old fish canary, 368 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: uh an old fish salting place, herring salterry, and then 369 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: UH an old mine of some sort, gold mine camp. 370 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: That was like riding out that these were the temporary 371 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: quarters for these people. And um out of eight one 372 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: chuck four people died of things like um consumption, UH 373 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: the damp TB which are all I think the same thing. Well, 374 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: they didn't have plumbing, they didn't have electricity, they had 375 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: no toilets, they didn't have the food was poor, they 376 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: didn't have winter clothes, and the water was tainted. And 377 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: this is where they sent them. Yeah, unbelievable. So the 378 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: inning Gecks basically said, okay, well, we're just gonna take 379 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: matters into our own hands. They built themselves, their own quarters, 380 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: they raised the church there. They it was pretty inspiring. 381 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: And again this one wasn't like interment against I guess 382 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: it was against their will, but it was supposedly for 383 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: their own safety. Well that's what they said about the 384 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Japanese Americans too, we should point out, right, And we 385 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: should also say, well, let's talk about that panel in 386 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: ninety eight that found that that was not the case 387 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. Well, before we move on, though, we 388 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: should say that the union, the Union gacks twenty five 389 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: of the men actually joined the American Armed Forces. Despite 390 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: the fact that they were rounded up and putting these 391 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: camps and some of them died, they still supported America 392 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: to the extent that they would fight and died for 393 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: the country. Pretty amazing, is very amazing. All right. So 394 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: now we flashed forward once again through our little time 395 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: machine to when redressed payments. Uh, we're basically on the table. Right. 396 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty, Congress created um the Commission on Wartime 397 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: Relocation in Kerman of civilians, and they came to their 398 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: decision in nine right, and their decision or their judgment 399 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: on whether or not I was constitutional or what was 400 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: the motivation behind it was that it was racism, pure 401 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: and simple racism in wartime hysteria, right, um. And basically 402 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: they said, yes, there was evidence that, um, there was 403 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: espionage networks on the West Coast among Japanese and Japanese Americans, 404 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: but the people who were calling the shots about interment 405 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: didn't know that at the time. So we owe these 406 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: people a lot of money? Is what they came up with? 407 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: How much was it in reparation? So I got some 408 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: stats for you. Eighty two thousand, two hundred and ten 409 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: people got paid twenty thousand apiece. Now, remember when I 410 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: said that the financial losses, um, let's go back to 411 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: at least because that's when they were paid. That would 412 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: have been two point six billion dollars lost. One point 413 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: two billion was paid out, so less than half of 414 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: what they lost they ended up getting back. So in 415 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: other words, the twenty grand didn't cover you know, squad 416 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: didn't course squad. And in n the SIP Civil Liberties 417 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Act was put into effect. They released another four hundred 418 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: thousand for payments. And part of the deal then was 419 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: and I think this was the first Bush signed, this 420 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: one ten the ten in tournament sites were made historical 421 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: landmarks and in the official apology. Um. That was part 422 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: of the deal. Um was the money an official apology 423 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: and then funds for an educational foundation. This is what 424 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: they wanted, they got it. Who Yeah, well, I wish 425 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: I could say that's a happy ending. I think probably 426 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: the better legacy of it, though, is that we very 427 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: sadly learned a really hard lesson, and that is that 428 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: we can't get swept up in racial hysteria and profiling 429 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: among our citizens. Um. Yeah, in the midst of an emergency, 430 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: and I think that Um. I wonder if that helped 431 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: calm people keep heads cooler. Following nine eleven. Yeah. I know. 432 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: One thing though, is that they never found any Japanese 433 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: American guilty of espionage in World War Two. There you 434 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: have it, Yeah, there you have it. Japanese internment camps 435 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: probably one located near you, especially if you live in 436 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: the Western States or Arkansas or on Sand Island in 437 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Oahu right, um, or if you've ever been in Santa 438 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: Anita race track I have that was an assembly camp? 439 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: Was it really? Wow? Yeah? I want some money on 440 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: some ponies there one time. Oh, there were Japanese people 441 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: who were kept there against their will. I didn't know 442 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: that that's true. If you want to learn more about 443 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: Japanese internment camps, type in interment I and E R 444 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: N M E N T in the search part How 445 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. That means it's time for a 446 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: listener mail. All right, Josh, we're gonna catch people up 447 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: on our our sergeant John Walker. Oh yeah, because we did. 448 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: We did all this on Facebook, but we didn't really 449 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: do it on the show, so many people might not 450 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: know that, Uh, staff Sergeant Walker was shot in the 451 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: line of duty in Afghanistan pretty severely. Was not a 452 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: flesh wound as they say. And I won't get into 453 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: the details of how that went down. We'll pick up 454 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: afterward with this email. Guys. The first couple of days 455 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: after I was in my own coma from shell shock 456 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: and a concussion, doctors put me on heavy meds due 457 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: to surgeries in the pain. When they went to test 458 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: my brain functions on the Wonder machine due to the meds, 459 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: it basically showed me as brain dead as my body 460 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: was not reacting to the stimuli. Uh, don't worry, folks, 461 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: he's clearly writing his emails, so things turned out okay. 462 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: Which we're getting too. After I was out of the coma, 463 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: I was in too much pain, so they put me 464 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: in a medically induced comma, which basically meant just more meds. Afterwards, 465 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: they tested the d m R. I again showed some problems, 466 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: but they said it was only temporary. Um Through this all, 467 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: my brother in law sent me to your Facebook page, 468 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: and if you remember, I posted this, lots of people 469 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: logged on, and regardless of political affiliation and how they 470 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: feel about the war, there were very concerned about Walker, 471 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. I was not able to finish 472 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: reading the comments on the post you guys made. I 473 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: kept tearing up from all the heartwarming comments from the 474 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: strangers who didn't even know me. It's really nice of 475 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: you guys to do this, plus really nice of everyone 476 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: who posted. I found it very kind that people posted 477 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: outside of that post and kept asking for updates. Uh So, 478 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: moving on, He's in the States now, recovering pretty well. 479 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: He has just been promoted again from staff sergeant all 480 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: the way to sergeant major and he says he will 481 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: be promoted to second lieutenant and will receive the Purple 482 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: Heart the Army dis e Whig Service Cross the Soldiers Medal, 483 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Army con Commendation Medal, Army Achievement Medal, Army and Air 484 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: Force Presidential Unit Citation, Army Good Conduct Medal, Army Service Ribbon, 485 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: Army Overseas Service Ribbon, National Defense Service Medal. So he's 486 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: getting loaded up on his chest here for being shot exactly. 487 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Been placed on medical leave. My family wants me to 488 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: discharge as this is my fourth stint, but I will 489 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: not do it. There's danger out there and people need protection. 490 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: I will be providing protection. I plan on one more 491 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: tour and then after the Army, I planned to join 492 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: law enforcement. So he's doing awesome. He's on the Facebook 493 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: page a lot. He if you remember from many months ago, 494 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: he was the one who was teaching English uh to 495 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: the kids who spoke Farsie through our podcast and he 496 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: said a lot of these children from the school came 497 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: and visited him and the hospital and made him cards 498 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: and stuff and so pretty cool story. That is a 499 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: great story. So we just want to catch everyone else 500 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: out there who's not on the Facebook page up. He's 501 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: all over the place too. He's on Twitter as well, 502 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: and he started actually a stuff you should Know Army 503 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: page on Facebook. Facebook as well. Yeah, he's he's poaching 504 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: our peeps. Know he's a good guy. Yes, he is 505 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: a very good guy. Thank you for keeping us up 506 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: to date. Sorry stuff, Sergeant Walker. Um, and we're glad 507 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: you pulled through, Sergeant Major. Thank you for keeping us 508 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: up to date, Sergeant Major Walker, And we're glad you 509 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: pulled through. We were worried there for a little while, 510 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: weren't we. It's pretty scary. It was like right around 511 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Christmas for years now, it was after and his brother 512 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: in law was emailing me this stuff, saying like, we 513 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to make it. At one point, Yeah, 514 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: it was scary. It was. Well, we're glad he's fine, Um, right, recovering. Yes, Uh, 515 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: it's pretty bleak outside still these days, chuck. So let's 516 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: get some nice beach stories. Yeah, if you have a 517 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: great story that takes place on the beach, we want 518 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: to hear it. Send it to us in an email 519 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: at stuff podcast at how stuff works dot com. For 520 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: more on this and thousands of other topics, is it 521 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. To learn more about the podcast, 522 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: click on the podcast icon in the upper right corner 523 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: of our homepage. 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