Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Thursday, April twenty third, and seven
Speaker 1: months now after her body was found in the trunk
Speaker 1: of singer David's car, we now know how Celeste Revs
Speaker 1: Hernandez died and it's horrible and with that, welcome to
Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. How she was
Speaker 1: found right dismember decomposing was horrific enough, and now we've
Speaker 1: finally gotten some details and it's just I think a
Speaker 1: fourteen year old child went through this.
Speaker 2: It is awful to even hear about, and yet we've
Speaker 2: been waiting for so long to hear about how the
Speaker 2: manner of death, how Celestrivus Hernandez was killed. This was
Speaker 2: a twenty six page medical examiner's report that was released,
Speaker 2: and we now know that she died of multiple penetrating injuries. Basically,
Speaker 2: you can between the lines and say it looks like
Speaker 2: she was stebby. So there were two wounds that were
Speaker 2: sharp force injuries, one to the left chest that damaged
Speaker 2: her ribs and one to her right abdomen that punctured
Speaker 2: her liver.
Speaker 1: There are plenty more details we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: as we get into this, but road this is fascinating
Speaker 1: because one part that was fascinating to me is the date.
Speaker 1: I believe they said this was all wrapped up. Essentially
Speaker 1: they knew this and they've had this information for quite
Speaker 1: some time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had it since December, correct, So they found
Speaker 2: her body in September. It took them a couple months
Speaker 2: to be able to make these determinations, these findings, but
Speaker 2: they had her cause of death, her manner of death
Speaker 2: as early as December. And we're only now And by
Speaker 2: the way, when I say we, that includes the family
Speaker 2: are only now learning about how their daughter died months
Speaker 2: and months after the officials already knew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's and we do. We had to remember
Speaker 1: that Robes. This is as shocking as it is to us.
Speaker 1: This family is having to hear that this fourteen year
Speaker 1: old child went through this. We all wondered how she died.
Speaker 1: Could there have been some kind of an accident, Robes
Speaker 1: and then he or whoever, maybe she accidentally died and
Speaker 1: then the person freaked out and did this horrific thing. No,
Speaker 1: this was, as they already have charged him with, Robes.
Speaker 1: As this points out, this was an intentional act.
Speaker 3: To absolutely kill this girl.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they say there were additional skin abrasions, but they
Speaker 2: couldn't determine exactly what the cause of those were because
Speaker 2: of the decomposition. But they mentioned that, and I think
Speaker 2: we've heard this detail before, that her arms and legs
Speaker 2: were dismembered. They were in one bag, her head and
Speaker 2: torso were in another. But I also thought it was
Speaker 2: interesting two fingers they say, were removed from her left hand,
Speaker 2: and at first I thought, oh, maybe it was to
Speaker 2: get rid of the tattoo. But no, the tattoo is
Speaker 2: on the inside of her right index finger, and that
Speaker 2: was documented in the autopsy report. That's the one that
Speaker 2: reportedly matches David's tattoo. The tattoo, and now that we
Speaker 2: know what he's being charged with, the sh makes a
Speaker 2: lot of sense.
Speaker 4: It's just too oh my god.
Speaker 3: They were in a relationship.
Speaker 2: He entered into a relationship that was I hate to
Speaker 2: even use the word taboo.
Speaker 3: It was criminal. She was thirteen.
Speaker 2: They had documented that she was thirteen when he started
Speaker 2: having sex with her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was no point and as young as he is,
Speaker 1: there's no point. These two knew each other that he
Speaker 1: was a minor. No, he was an adult, he was
Speaker 1: a man. The whole time, and there was no point
Speaker 1: these two should have been involved in anything. Obviously, like
Speaker 1: you said, ropes, not taboo, not worried about what people
Speaker 1: were going to think about him, that he was going to.
Speaker 4: Go to jail.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 2: Do you know what part of the autopsy this made
Speaker 2: I don't know how you feel about this. That actually
Speaker 2: made me feel The sickest of all was reading that
Speaker 2: she still had her braces on.
Speaker 1: When she died. Just a reminder she was a kid, exactly,
Speaker 1: Just a reminder this.
Speaker 4: Is a baby.
Speaker 1: We know that because we got a baby in our house, right,
Speaker 1: we got a thirteen year old. The idea of our
Speaker 1: sabine running around somewhere with a grown twenty year old
Speaker 1: doing she's a child. She brings us cookies, she does
Speaker 1: kids stuff.
Speaker 3: She just got her braces off.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is uh yeah, I know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. And yes, there were some reminders in there
Speaker 1: as you're reading through this horrific thing, and then at
Speaker 1: the end you get reminded that you're reading about what
Speaker 1: happened to a child. Yeah, you should be a little shook.
Speaker 1: Yeah by that Robes he I mean some significant like
Speaker 1: you said, the family, Yeah, we should get into the
Speaker 1: family here ropes because they were two different statements. I
Speaker 1: guess we got from the family and we got one
Speaker 1: after these autopsy results were released, and again they're hearing
Speaker 1: it for the first time. But road we the hearing,
Speaker 1: what was it after he was arrested, and I don't
Speaker 1: think we got a chance to get into this. He
Speaker 1: had a previous appearance in court in which he did
Speaker 1: plead not guilty. The family was supposed we were expecting
Speaker 1: to hear from the family from the first time that day,
Speaker 1: and it was just a kind of a weird series
Speaker 1: of events prevented that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they a were overwhelmed emotionally, obviously by just
Speaker 2: seeing David in court, hearing him plead not guilty, hearing
Speaker 2: the charges leveled against him. But they were still planning
Speaker 2: to come out and speak to reporters, which we had
Speaker 2: talked about and we were anticipating. But then there was
Speaker 2: a bomb threat called into the courthouse, and according to
Speaker 2: their attorneys, they just were overwhelmed with the emotions of
Speaker 2: the day, and then the fear of this bomb threat
Speaker 2: was just the final straw and they just opted instead
Speaker 2: to head home and they released a statement just about
Speaker 2: their daughter about how they were relieved, of course, that
Speaker 2: someone was finally being accountable, but this was also telling.
Speaker 2: They said, every Friday night was movie night, and we
Speaker 2: spent wonderful times together. We loved her very much, and
Speaker 2: she always told us that she loved us. We miss
Speaker 2: her deeply. All we want is justice for Celeste. That's
Speaker 2: what they said, and that's what they were planning to
Speaker 2: say in front of the microphones that day on Monday
Speaker 2: when he was when he entered that plea, I didn't see.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you got any shot of them.
Speaker 1: How big a representation, how many members essentially went to
Speaker 1: that first hearing. I can't imagine sitting in that courtroom
Speaker 1: from feet from him at this point.
Speaker 2: I know it's an unthinkable thing to just finally get
Speaker 2: your eyes or lay eyes on the man who did
Speaker 2: unthinkable things to their daughter. Yes, and after the autopsy
Speaker 2: results were released, their attorney said that this makes total
Speaker 2: sense that the results caused profound emotional pain for the family.
Speaker 3: But here was the statement, the.
Speaker 2: Revus Hernandez family is absolutely devast stated by the findings
Speaker 2: contained in the medical examiner's report involving the horrible and
Speaker 2: gruesome death of their beloved daughter, they respectfully ask for privacy, understanding,
Speaker 2: and patience as they process this information. And I thought
Speaker 2: that was such a good way to put it, because
Speaker 2: I don't even know, like the processing of something this
Speaker 2: horrific would take a lot of time just to even
Speaker 2: get your head around the fact that your daughter went
Speaker 2: through what this autopsy is revealing she went through.
Speaker 1: Man, but already you're to the point that they're I mean,
Speaker 1: just to think she was dismembered, right, they were already
Speaker 1: in this horrible place. How does this story ropes in
Speaker 1: some way keep getting worse? It dealt from the moment
Speaker 1: we first heard about this, and we weren't familiar with
Speaker 1: singer David last year and we heard about this body
Speaker 1: being found. We immediately text our daughters and everybody text back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: started naming songs, even naming songs of his. They even
Speaker 1: liked we had no idea. We have been staring at
Speaker 1: this case every single day since she was found. And Rhodes,
Speaker 1: you are the one. You I remember you first of all,
Speaker 1: being like, wait a minute, he performed right when his
Speaker 1: body was first found, Like as soon as the body
Speaker 1: was found, they.
Speaker 3: Went on stage that night.
Speaker 1: How horrific is this?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: We were devastell like, wow, oh my god, it's horrible.
Speaker 1: And then you wake up the next day here he performed,
Speaker 1: and that got worse, and then you hear he's not cooperating,
Speaker 1: and things start getting worse and worse and worse as
Speaker 1: we go along and find out more, and as we
Speaker 1: continue to find out more, mean Rhodes, we like, how
Speaker 1: much more can there be for this family if we're
Speaker 1: even hearing these details, like this story keeps getting worse.
Speaker 2: Right, and then just the fact that they had to
Speaker 2: wait so long for any sort of answers. And the
Speaker 2: medical examiner addressed that as he released the autopsy, because
Speaker 2: we had reported on this earlier, he had already been
Speaker 2: very vocal he was upset that the autopsy results had
Speaker 2: been sealed because he felt like that there's should be transparency,
Speaker 2: that this shouldn't and wouldn't hinder the investigation. So he
Speaker 2: definitely spoke out a few months ago, but took his
Speaker 2: moment as well. When the autopsy was finally released, he said,
Speaker 2: after several months, I am grateful this information can now
Speaker 2: be released not only to the public, but also to
Speaker 2: the grieving family enduring loss. It is unfathomable they have
Speaker 2: had to wait this long to learn what happened to
Speaker 2: their daughter.
Speaker 4: I'm with him.
Speaker 1: I remember when he first made that statement, Rose was
Speaker 1: strong and we were thinking, WHOA, what is going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and we were kind of, yeah, we
Speaker 1: can see his frustration robes. Now that we know what
Speaker 1: we know, it's hard not to side with police to
Speaker 1: not want these details floating around for a couple of
Speaker 1: months as you're still getting your ducks in a row
Speaker 1: to arrest. Can you imagine the pressure on them and
Speaker 1: how this thing would have run even wilder if we
Speaker 1: new these detailed robes.
Speaker 2: I don't know the case would have been even I
Speaker 2: don't know how it would have been in a bigger
Speaker 2: spotlight than it would have. And certainly you don't want
Speaker 2: to tip your information or to the defense so that
Speaker 2: they can potentially start coming up with a plan for
Speaker 2: their day in court.
Speaker 3: You don't want to give that to David and his team.
Speaker 1: And what would have been their option in the meanwhile
Speaker 1: is to fight it in the press, is to fight
Speaker 1: it in the headlines, to start leaking this, to start
Speaker 1: doing that, this would have been a mess.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they've made their arrest, they've got their
Speaker 1: evidence now robes and just that now in context. That's
Speaker 1: why sometimes you need full context before you just get
Speaker 1: on to somebody, because we.
Speaker 4: Wanted the information.
Speaker 1: At the time. We were like, come on, man, release it.
Speaker 1: But man, the police now this seems to have made it.
Speaker 2: It certainly does a good point and there is a
Speaker 2: lot more to come. Today when we come back, we're
Speaker 2: going to tell you David is going to be back
Speaker 2: in court and he is asking for something that almost
Speaker 2: no defendant has ever asked for in the state of California.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back here to this.
Speaker 3: This is Thursday, right, Thursday, April twenty third.
Speaker 1: And that is an important date in the case of
Speaker 1: singer David. He's going to be in court today. Do
Speaker 1: I wait a minute, When was the last.
Speaker 3: On Monday he was entered his plea third?
Speaker 4: What was it last day they said they believe she
Speaker 4: was alive.
Speaker 3: Oh, I do believe it was April twenty third.
Speaker 4: Oh my god? Is that right?
Speaker 2: Yes, babe, you're right. It was April twenty third, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. This is actually one year ago. Today is
Speaker 2: when Celestial Wow, I did not realize that walked into
Speaker 2: or was last scene entering David's home in Hollywood Hills.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Wow, sends a chill. No, I didn't why
Speaker 1: that dates undt familiar. We've been guys, we've been staring
Speaker 1: at this case for a while, and yeah, that date
Speaker 1: jumps out, but we're at the one year anniversary the
Speaker 1: last time this girl was seen alive, and yeah, she
Speaker 1: would have been fourteen.
Speaker 4: At that time.
Speaker 1: The police believe she died and in April twenty third,
Speaker 1: now is a very big date for a singer dated.
Speaker 4: What I call him?
Speaker 3: Did I say David?
Speaker 2: David?
Speaker 4: Because he does have a hearing to date.
Speaker 1: Now, we're not going to get a chance to see it,
Speaker 1: but officially Robes hopefully we'll get the info and there
Speaker 1: could be a lot more coming out today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because this is scheduled to take place
Speaker 2: at eight thirty am California time, which is eleven thirty
Speaker 2: am Eastern time. And so here's what lawyers are asking for.
Speaker 2: His lawyers want the evidence against him, the evidence that
Speaker 2: the prosecution has against him. They want it made public.
Speaker 2: So this is a really rare move, as it's been
Speaker 2: explained to me. But basically, David's exercising his right in
Speaker 2: California to have a judge decide within ten days of
Speaker 2: his arraignment whether there's enough evidence to proceed to trial.
Speaker 2: So they are already coming out swinging, show us what
Speaker 2: you got, and we want the judge to say, you
Speaker 2: think that's enough to charge him, because we don't.
Speaker 3: We want to have you rule.
Speaker 2: In ten days whether or not this looks like there
Speaker 2: is enough evidence to go to trial.
Speaker 4: Does this?
Speaker 1: I don't know why everybody doesn't do this, meaning ROMs,
Speaker 1: why not right? Why not take what's the risk here?
Speaker 1: Necessarily for them? Get it all out there, let us see,
Speaker 1: let us do it now and move on. Yeah, giving
Speaker 1: him bail anyway, so we might as well take a
Speaker 1: shot at it here.
Speaker 2: The argument is that most defendants and their team want
Speaker 2: the time to take their moment to investigate, to prepare,
Speaker 2: to take a look at the evidence, to find counter claims,
Speaker 2: to come up with the defense. All of that time
Speaker 2: is on the side of the defense to have that
Speaker 2: moment to get their ducks in a row, because the
Speaker 2: prosecution has certainly been doing that for the past seven months. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's rare that you would want to just push forward.
Speaker 1: Because how many murder cases rogues have we seen where
Speaker 1: the judge in a preliminary hearing says, nah, we don't
Speaker 1: need to move forward with trial. Of course this is
Speaker 1: going to trial. We know this is going is the
Speaker 1: judge is.
Speaker 2: A show of confidence then like, we are so sure
Speaker 2: our client is innocent, we actually need you to even
Speaker 2: show what you've got at this moment because it couldn't
Speaker 2: be much.
Speaker 1: Don't even though we are not lawyers. Every time we
Speaker 1: ask lawyers for some expertise on something, we're shocked. We're
Speaker 1: wrong every single time. So there's some strategy in this
Speaker 1: that they absolutely know what they're doing.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: I thought the DA's response was quite interesting, if not entertaining.
Speaker 2: When they asked for this, the DA said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: the prosecution will be very happy to present our evidence,
Speaker 2: and we already have forty terabytes collected that can be
Speaker 2: shared immediately.
Speaker 4: We'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't know what pherabytes ar, but it sounds big.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of forty terabytes they say they have
Speaker 2: ready to.
Speaker 1: Go forty that's uh, that's was that forty iPhones full
Speaker 1: of information?
Speaker 2: I guess so, yes, basically they say they have quite
Speaker 2: a bit. But look, just to remind everyone, David is
Speaker 2: facing potentially the death penalty in this case. This is
Speaker 2: a potential life or death situation for him. He's facing
Speaker 2: first degree murder with special circumstances continuous sexual abuse of
Speaker 2: a child under fourteen, and mutilating human remains. I thought
Speaker 2: this was interesting. Prosecutors got very specific because they say
Speaker 2: he had substantial sexual contact with Celest between September seventh,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and September seven, twenty twenty four. And
Speaker 2: they make that distinction because that is when she was thirteen,
Speaker 2: and the charges having sex with a minor under fourteen,
Speaker 2: and so they're saying for the full year of her
Speaker 2: thirteenth birthday, there was substantial sexual contact.
Speaker 4: Ah Jesus, And.
Speaker 3: Look, this is what they're claiming.
Speaker 2: They claim that because of that sexual relationship with a
Speaker 2: minor under fourteen, when she threatened to expose that relationship
Speaker 2: and devastate his musical career, that is when prosecutors say
Speaker 2: he made the decision, the premeditated decision to murder Celeste
Speaker 2: and dismember her body. And why it ended up in
Speaker 2: that tesla, we don't know, because that is the thing
Speaker 2: that just is beyond I mean, all of it is
Speaker 2: horrific and questionable. But just in terms of you've hid
Speaker 2: the body for how long and now you put it
Speaker 2: in your car on a public street and you go
Speaker 2: off and tour the world.
Speaker 3: That makes zero sense.
Speaker 1: It makes zero sense, Robes, What did he think was
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 4: To Robes?
Speaker 1: He is not guilty, and at this point he is
Speaker 1: an innocent man until a jury says otherwise. But Robes,
Speaker 1: that is one detail they're plentying here. We can't figure out.
Speaker 1: That is one detail of stupidity. Frankly that I don't
Speaker 1: that makes this seem unlikely. This could have been him.
Speaker 3: It seems like you were trying to get caught.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ROAs, he left the body on the street. It
Speaker 1: was nearly it wasn't even that far from his house,
Speaker 1: walks away, Rops and just go on tour. He knows
Speaker 1: what the body is going to smell. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: The only thing I could think of is if he
Speaker 2: pissed somebody off, someone knew about it, and then move
Speaker 2: the body from whatever freezer he had in.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, put it in the car just to
Speaker 3: get him.
Speaker 1: See And this is why you don't release the medical
Speaker 1: examiner's report, because you give folks time to just speculate
Speaker 1: on all kinds of scenario really, and so we do
Speaker 1: not know. We will find out more today. We are
Speaker 1: keeping a close eye on that court room, waiting for
Speaker 1: reports to come out of it. But again there will
Speaker 1: not be cameras in the courtroom today. But we always
Speaker 1: appreciate you spending some time here with us. Just want
Speaker 1: to update you on this story. There will be plenty
Speaker 1: of updates throughout. This story of David is just getting started.
Speaker 1: But for now, I'm TJ. Holmes on wehalf of my
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