1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: I Am all in. 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: You. 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: This Isn't Old Man Music with Scott Patterson Everything You've 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: ever wanted to know about the music of Gilmour Girls. 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all of Them Podcast 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: one eleven Productions. iHeartRadio Media, iHeart podcast. This Isn't Old 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Man Music, Episode two, and I have a very very 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: special guest, the one and only founder of Cool and 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the Gang, Robert cool Bell. Welcome, Robert. Let me tell 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: everybody a little bit about your accomplishments, and buckle up everybody, 11 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: because it's gonna take a while. He's a co founder, leader, 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: and master bassist for the legendary Grammy winning rock and 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: roll Hall of famers Cool and the Gang. Cool and 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: his family emigrated to Jersey City, New Jersey, in the 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: early sixties. Shortly thereafter, Cool and his brother Ronald joined 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: neighborhood friends Spike Mickens, Dennis Thomas, Ricky Westfield, George Brown, 17 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: and Charles Smith to create a distinctive musical blend of jazz, 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: soul and funk. At first calling Spells the Jazzy Acts, 19 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: and the band went through various name changes, New Dimension, 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: the Sole Town Band, and Cool in the Flames before 21 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: settling on Cool in the Gang, nineteen sixty eight multi 22 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: platinum selling group. The most sampled band of all time, 23 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Cool in the Gang has sold over Get This eighty 24 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: million albums worldwide and influencing music of generations with twenty 25 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: five top ten R and B hits, nine top ten 26 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: pop hits, at thirty one gold and platinum albums. Classics 27 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: include the one and Only Jungle Boogie which I just 28 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: figured out on my guitar, Hollywood Swinging Ladies' Night, and 29 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: the number one hit Celebration. The band were recently inducted 30 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Cool's business 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: ventures include a successful Lay Cool Champagne uh and, with 32 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: his departed wife Sekina I hope I got that pronounce 33 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Yester right, it co founded a nonprofit music education initiative, 34 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: the Cool Kids Foundation, which is currently overseen by his sons, 35 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: Haquem and Mohammad. Just such a pleasure to have you, Robert, 36 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming. And what do you 37 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: remember most about those early days in Jersey City when 38 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: when Cool in the Gang was just getting started well. 39 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: In Jersey City and also downtown on the Village of 40 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: New York. We used to play and uh, you know, 41 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: they dropped a little money in the basket, you know 42 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Who were young having fun at 43 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: the time. And then we ended up working over the 44 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: Cafe WA in New York where on weekends every Saturday 45 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: and Sunday they were having they call who Danny And 46 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: that's one different groups like Richie Havens and other artists 47 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: were like Starist, but we was like the young artist 48 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: going up. So that was the early days working in 49 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey. And then we used to 50 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: work in New Jersey. We came up with the name 51 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: the Jazzy Acts, and uh we were into jazz. My 52 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: brothers into John Coltrane, d T was Canniball Alley, George Phi, 53 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: Philly Jones, Charles West Mctgummy Spike was then too, uh 54 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: you have it, and Ricus Herbie Hancott. Yeah, jazz and 55 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: I played based. I was with us excuse me on 56 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Carlon jamieson some of the other basics right right. 57 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: For those of you listening who do not know, jazz 58 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: was very prevalent in the seventies, especially on the East Coast. 59 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I used to spend weekends up in New York City, 60 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: My sister was living with a with her boyfriend up there, 61 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: and so I used to spend summers up there, and 62 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: I used to come up on weekends as well during 63 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: school sometimes, and the jazz clubs were filled with great players. 64 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: Cafe you mentioned Cafe Wah. I know that was a 65 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: very famous spot. Tell us a little bit about Cafe 66 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: wa and some of the legends that used to frequent 67 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: that place. 68 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like Ritchie Havens mil came. He played drums. Yeah, 69 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: a lot of different lot it was a fun day. 70 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: Was on Sunday, right, Okay. I learned how to play 71 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: at the bass after my bullet told me you should 72 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: try to play the basement this one song, uh as 73 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: Caffrey walk now Spike Mickens brother play guitar. So I 74 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: learned how to play one song on one string. It 75 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: was called coming Home Baby, and all you have to 76 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: do is go up and down the East Ring. And 77 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: so when I replanted, I said, well don't you try 78 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: to playing that one song? I would bout that guy's 79 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: base and I did, and that was the beginning of 80 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: my bass plan. 81 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well you started banding out playing jazz, uh, 82 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: how did that evolve in the funk and then the 83 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: soul sound. 84 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: We know today, well we're playing jazz. But when we 85 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: started playing for what happened was there was an organization 86 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: in Jersey City, Uh we called so the Souletown Review. 87 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: They were trying to be like the Motown Review. So 88 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: we became the Soultoime band, and we would have to 89 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: learn the various RV song mostly Motown songs, you know, 90 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: and that's how the jazz kind of kind of transmitted transits. 91 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 2: This is into the trying this into RV side. 92 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: Cooley Gang has been sampled by so many artists from 93 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: hip hop to pop, you name it. Do you have 94 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: a favorite sample of one of your songs? 95 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: I would say some of the Madness because Will Smith 96 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: came up with Summer Time, went platinum with number one, 97 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: and became a movie star. Right. There's others, I mean, 98 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, try called Quest the sample of music, a 99 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: lot of other groups sample of music, but that one 100 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: Coon sticks out some. 101 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: Of Madness and is the idea behind that song. There's 102 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: no lyrics, it's just this beautiful, easy listening song. What 103 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: inspired that song? 104 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: It started off with a song called you Don't Have 105 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: to Change Mike Mickens wrote that song and at the 106 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: end of the song there was a vam and my 107 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: brother was in the studio one day. He said, you 108 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: know that vamp. I want to work with that van 109 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: and uh. He had just got the art synthesizer, so 110 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: he was in there fooling around with it. And that 111 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: part that you talked about that and then that became 112 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: some of Madness because Spike said, oh he was gay, 113 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: all right. I told me we'll call this. He said, well, well, 114 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: let's call it some of badness. So we didn't know 115 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: that song was gonna be called the Smell it ca. 116 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 2: I mean the movie Rocket, Uh, sevests the onest thing 117 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: there across the big the box that have a fight 118 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: that next day, and he listened to he listened to 119 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: some of that, right, So I went from there to 120 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: Will Smith to a lot of people, a lot of 121 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: samples on some of that. 122 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Yes, So let's talk about celebration that was in the 123 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: season finale of Gilmore Girls, and it's such a timeless anthem. Uh, 124 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: did you know that it would become or had the 125 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: potential to become the ultimate party song when you were 126 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: recording it. Did the producer say anything like, guys, this 127 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: thing is just gonna go big. Everybody's gonna want to 128 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: play this song at their wedding parties and birthdays and 129 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: things like that. Did you guys have any inkling, Well, we. 130 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: Really didn't know. The journey started off with Ladies Night. Ladies' 131 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Night was when my wife and I was hanging out 132 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,239 Speaker 2: in New York and JG had just joined the band, 133 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: and we were at two of fifty four and Regimes 134 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: and some of the hotspots in New York, and we 135 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: realized that Friday nights the weekend with the Ladies Night. 136 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: So I went back to the guys. I said, wow, 137 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: you know it's a Ladies Night on the weekends in 138 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: New York. And my brother said, wow, there's a Ladies' 139 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: Night all over the world. So anyway, fast forward, so 140 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: we did Ladis Night. We end up doing two, were 141 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: getting two American music wars. I'll know it a Ladies Night. 142 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: The end of Ladies Night, this is your night tonight, 143 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: come on, it's all celebrate. My brother, Oh there's another song, 144 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 2: and he got together and came up with this concept. Yeah. 145 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: Uh he played for us and they had that down 146 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: Hall Field to it, you know, uh, and uh that's 147 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: how he came up with the celebration part of it all. 148 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: You know, that's how Celebration was created. Not knowing we 149 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: thought Ladles, you know new Thayer, We thought that that 150 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: would be big. It was, but Celebration top of them all. 151 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: So of all the hits, which song still feels the 152 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: best to play live after all these years? 153 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: Best to play live? 154 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 155 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: Well, two sections one one section of I show I 156 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: call it the gang a session. That's when we do 157 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: John Go Boogie into Hollywood swing. No, we start with 158 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: funky stuff jungle boogie until Holly was swinging and the 159 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: story around that. With the record coman, he told us said, listen, 160 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: you guys are not really you got territorial hits. There's 161 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: a producer out there and there's a record out there 162 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: that's song Solvacusa, Mango DeMarco and their producer. They said okay, 163 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: So we had a meeting with him. We weren't filling him. 164 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: So we went down the baggage downtown New York and 165 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: we went in the studio about here o'clock in the morning, 166 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: and when we finished, we had created Bunky shir John 167 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: Go Boogie in Hollywood Swinging. Now John Go Boogie went 168 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: the top five. I believe Holly was swinging with also 169 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: in the top five the Funkys there for number one, 170 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: R and B for about seven weeks. So when we 171 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,239 Speaker 2: play on our show, we played that part jungle boogie, 172 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: funcky stuff, jungle boogie. How I was swinging. The crowd 173 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: is up, then we slow down, go a little bit 174 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: of chairs, a little bit of summer madness, and then 175 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 2: we come back with Ladies Night. Get down on it 176 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: in celebration. If you ain't got the people moving by 177 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: then those three will get you up out of your seat. 178 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, you will get up. 179 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: You know two errors there, right, answer your question? 180 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Right? So you got the van. Just got inducted into 181 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame last year. Tell 182 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: us if you will, what that moment meant to you personally? 183 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: Well me personally, I feel very good about that. Unfortunately, 184 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: we all wanted to be in the Wackall Hall of Fame. 185 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: All my members have passed, my brother George Brown, all 186 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: of them. I was the last minute then so and 187 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: then of doing the song with JG. But the thing 188 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: about it was that, you know, we had tour with 189 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: Elton John. We have been told Elton John Brother, Roger Stewart, 190 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: uh and we did the four year shows with Van Halen, 191 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: ten shows with kid Ron, Dave matthews Man. He said, 192 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: all rock and roll any it called the rock and 193 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: Roll Hall Fan. I was born in Yukstown and Cleveland 194 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: was right up the street. So I said, how did 195 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: I give us no love? I ask you a question. 196 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: They finally came and gave us some love. That's what 197 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: I felt about that. 198 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: It is amazing that it took so long, isn't it? 199 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Yes? It is. 200 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: It really is amazing, really is amazing. Why do you 201 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: think that is? Why do you think that it took 202 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: so long to intuct you in the rock and Roll 203 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Because it was it wasn't pure rock. 204 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean the umbrella is pretty wide with the rock 205 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and Roll Hall of Fame. Why do you think it 206 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: took so long? 207 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you have the fans who vote for you, 208 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: and then you have these decision makers. So the behind 209 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: the scene guys is one of the big and final 210 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: of decision you know, because I mean you had like 211 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: try call well not of course, a couple of hip 212 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: hop acts Step was in the Alcohol Hall of Fame, 213 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: A couple other acts. But we're trying to figure out, well, 214 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: why do you think it's so long for us? That's 215 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: a good question. 216 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: Your songs are among the most recognized, instantly recognizable songs 217 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: in the history of modern music and jazz. I mean, 218 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: it is confounding, isn't it. It is really confounding. And 219 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: by the way, one thing when when I was re 220 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: listening to your songs before having you come on, is 221 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: the the intros to your song. The instrumental intros to 222 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: your song are brilliant. They're just they're like hooks in 223 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: and of themselves, so you know exactly what the song is, 224 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: you know exactly where you're going. You guys set up 225 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: a song better than anyone I've ever heard. You know, 226 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: that's really a question to ponder why it took so long. 227 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: It's just it's just amazing to me, just just astounding. 228 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, these are easily the most recognizable songs in 229 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: the world over the past fifty years. 230 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: All of the things, let's cut you off, is that 231 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: my mother should tell me, brother this. You always have 232 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: to come up with a melody that people can't remember, 233 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: you know, And you thought about that, and when you 234 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: look at what you know, then you got. Damn you 235 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: go to a circuit or whatever you can remember and 236 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: come up with memorable hooks. 237 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: What you just said, Yeah, just incredible. And when you 238 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: hear them, it's like you think, well, why didn't I 239 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: think of that? Well, it's because you didn't think of that. 240 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: It's it's just like they seem so simple, but they're 241 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: so difficult to come up with. 242 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: They are. 243 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: How would you describe, uh, the creative creative relationship between 244 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: you and your brother Ronald over the years. How did 245 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: that dynamic work inside the band? Were you guys the 246 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: principal songwriters? 247 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: Well, my brother in terms of the horns, all the 248 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: horn lives, that's what my brother came up with. Wow, 249 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: you know. And then uh, you got Charles. Now Charles 250 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: he was a Western gummy guy, you know. And you 251 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: hear that thumb Sunston too hot now, George rout it okay, 252 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: So all of different slavers. It was all about what 253 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: cooling gangs about. It was hard to give us the 254 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: title so well the full the R and B or 255 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: this is this and now they're pop, But we did Johanna, 256 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: Oh then they were too bubble of them now, Johanna 257 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: the bouncing ball We did what we felt. We wasn't 258 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: looking into what people would say about us. We had 259 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: a song called Coachy Junkie in a Country Junkie. So 260 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: we just did what we felt. We didn't tell to 261 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: go by what people say, well we should be, We 262 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: just didn't and it helped us a listen for that. 263 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: So it seems like when I'm listening to these songs, 264 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: the musical i Q of the band members is so high. 265 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: Did you did all of you guys study uh composition? 266 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Did you study jazz or did you just grow up 267 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: listening to jazz and have this sort of innate talent 268 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: to incorporate it into your music? Which one? 269 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: We grew up listening to jazz, listening to R and 270 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: B and uh. We told each other, like Charles, my 271 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: guitar player, just show me here's a little line. But 272 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: it's a line. Uh, the Halls would do something intil 273 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: hobby to play it or whatever, or Mickey West. It 274 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: was just it was imagic that, you know, hard to 275 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: explain right what we would do. I mean, he's talking 276 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: about left the music, mind, love and understanding and who's 277 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: gonna take the weight? That's all different scenarios there. Who's 278 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: gonna take the weight. That's the whole story. Yeah, so 279 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: we were blessed for that. And then like with Ladies 280 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: Night and uh pobs about George and the girlfriend they 281 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: broke up seven feel high schools. He goes, that's all 282 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: by himself because he's the only one one to that. 283 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: So that's how you know, opens opens. Yeah, every fun 284 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: and fire that was like had the dominant horn you know, 285 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: yeah fire horn line, you know, and you compete with that. 286 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: So my brother came up with an idea and that 287 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 2: was what open. He said, We're gonna keep it on 288 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: the dance vibe, We're gonna swing it, but we're gonna 289 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 2: compete with whoever's out there. That that said, people say, 290 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: who couldn't even play that? What is they playing? What 291 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: is that end up being? In Saturday Night Fever sold 292 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: over twenty million, a record until Michael Jackson came along 293 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: with Dweller's Got's a Blessing? What can I say? 294 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: H Let me ask you this, when when you look 295 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: at how Funk and R and B have evolved, what 296 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: do you think is the biggest influence Cooling the Gang 297 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: left on the artists of today. 298 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: Well, I would say a style of thought when you 299 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: sounds like someone just asked me about that. At the 300 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: other day, Funcky Glenny said, what the hell is monkey Glenny? 301 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: Monky man? All those facts see it to an equility 302 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: breeds in soul. We just mixed it up UK with 303 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: a lot of bands. Study what we did. You know 304 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: I got I have to take my head off. George Clinton, 305 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 2: he calls us the master of the p phon and 306 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: we were the master of the p pong too. But 307 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: we can go out to the cherish. I wouldn't go 308 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: into rush. Oh we can go into too hot. We 309 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: can go into emergency. Rey Kaye's answer, You know, we. 310 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: Just did what we fell just a bunch of really 311 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: talented players putting it together in rehearsal and coming up 312 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: with great stuff. Huh. How often did you rehearse in 313 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: the early days did you Were you rehearsing all the time. 314 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 2: In earlier days? Yeah, yeah, put it all together right. Uh. 315 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: And the latter days on the road, we would do 316 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: like rehearsal at soundcheck. The soundcheck was almost like a rehearsal, sure, 317 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 2: and certain songs came from a soundcheck, like Reggae Danson 318 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: soundcheck and my other brother Mia started playing that little track, 319 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: you know, and then we came up with everybody was 320 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: just you know, uh chime in and then they're like, 321 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: oh lah, check it. You know, it was magic that 322 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 2: just happened. And that's what happened. 323 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: You also have an incredible foundation, the Cool Kids Foundation. 324 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: What kind of impact you seeing through the music education 325 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: programs your family runs. 326 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: But what happened was my wife, who up passed eight 327 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: years ago, she asked me, how come they don't have 328 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: music in the schools. So I was on the road 329 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: a lot, so I thought about it, and she was 330 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: doing trying to put something together locally, and uh, I said, well, 331 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: you you know what I said. When we were coming 332 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: up through grammar school, there was music in the school, 333 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: there were music teachers. You go in and uh yeah, 334 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 2: you uh pick up an instrument and you take it 335 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: home and etcetera extension that wasn't happening. I mean, I 336 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: had a melophone. I said, I ain't messing with that. 337 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: That's the one like a French hall. I said, I'll 338 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: bust my lip all of them. I took the violin. 339 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 2: I couldn't quite get into that. Couldn't quite get into that, 340 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: you know, I remember the base but one music was 341 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: in school. School. So that's when I came up with 342 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: a concept. Idea said called school to stay is cool? 343 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: Excuse me to stay in school? Chilli Coke get to 344 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 2: the table. I said, yeah, we like to prom was that? 345 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: So we did forty two City four and all those 346 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: kids that had good grades and uh nothing playing not playing, 347 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: I hope you from school and all that stuff. We 348 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: would meet them on the meet and greet and after 349 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: them and at the meet and greet, uh, four guys 350 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: came up to us and said, yeah, we're doing good 351 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: in school, but we want to sing something. And so 352 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: I said, okay, we listen, and they did a cappella 353 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: on four songs. You know that group became colored me bad, 354 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: I want to sex you up. All that was about 355 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: the school thing. So that's what my wife wanted to 356 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 2: bring back so far. Next year will be our seventh 357 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: Cool Kids Foundation. We're donating knowing into the schools, the 358 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: marching bands. Uh that's the whole thing about Cool Kids Foundation. 359 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Jungle Boogie. Tell tell 360 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: me about how that jam came about, because that is 361 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: just deadly. That is just the most lethal piece of music. 362 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: I think coming out one of the most lethal pieces 363 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: of music coming out of the seventies. It's just so 364 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: incredibly rich. How'd that happen? 365 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: We were under pressure. The record company came to us 366 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: and said, yeah, you guys got territorial hits Connecticut, maybe Virginia, 367 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: Jersey and the Soma. So we'd say, Okay, we're gonna 368 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: create our own so not that we're trying to do with, 369 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: but there is and the Prussia we will song about. 370 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: Let get your back of all the wall? How bad 371 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: was on the wall? Okay, that's how y'all feel? And 372 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: Joe Oboden was the first one check this out, came 373 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: over them all line, we came up with it all 374 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: came together. It wasn't like a complicated song with a 375 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 2: lot of lyric ability. 376 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: It was no, it was you didn't need it with 377 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: with that riff, you just need to repeat it. 378 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was We have fun play. 379 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: And when do you play that in your set? And 380 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: what is the reaction in the crowd when you play that? 381 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: When do you usual? Where do you have that on 382 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: the set list? 383 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: Close to the middle of the set? 384 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: Middle? 385 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: Okay, when we go to the funk stuff. We played 386 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: funky stuff, jungle boogie, Hollywood swing, you know, and we 387 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: got them and that's that's the funky side. Then we 388 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: go through some of that and then we come to 389 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: the end. But yeah, they really those songs. Sometimes a 390 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 2: song and in the biggests something else. Yeah. 391 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, people tell you after the show, like like 392 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: when you guys went into jungle boogie, that was like 393 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: a moment for me, you know, right swinging to right. 394 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, So when when you look. 395 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: Back on well not you let me rephrase this. When 396 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: people look back on cool in the Gang, let's say 397 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: one hundred years from now, what do you hope they 398 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: remember Robert. 399 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 2: Well, some young guys from Jersey City coming up to 400 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: JAD coming up through a R and B p H. 401 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: We'll go to pop. Actually they call those pop outs, 402 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 2: you know, I mean top ten pop records, you know, 403 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: and it's like, I guess, slice it in something, Well, 404 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: you can make it if you try. We never gave up. 405 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: That's the same thing with the cool kids. You can 406 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 2: become somebody. That's what the foundation is about, right, That's 407 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: why we help them because a lot of the programs 408 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: are not in school anymore. Right, So that kind of 409 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: a thing. Uh. We had songs like Love and Understanding, 410 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: which was a big record for us, and uh, you 411 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: know you need more love today, you need more understanding today. 412 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: Look at what we're dealing with today. We had a 413 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: song called music is the Message that sings universal love 414 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: for what and all. We were dropping some messages there. 415 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: They were all about bump, you're closer, saying that's what 416 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 2: I want people to know. 417 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: Beautiful. So you're on tour, tell me what we can 418 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: expect and where we can see you. 419 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, we just did thirty days in Europe just past 420 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: July and August, and we're going out again next year. 421 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: And h we have a concept I do anyway, the 422 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: Cool Champagne and I have to do with Akatron watches 423 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: the Cool Champagne and Akatron possesses the Cooling game Rock 424 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: the World Tour and I got a part to it. 425 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: What I want to do ten classical shows, a classic 426 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: evening with cool in the game. Because we've played with 427 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: Philemon books, so we want to pick ten cities. Well, 428 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: we bring on sixty piece office. Wow. Also because we've 429 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: done them already, Wow, we want to do them again. 430 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Next year coming to California. You're coming to Southern California. 431 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we played with down Walk down there with orchestra. 432 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: All right, we gotta come out and see you if 433 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: you come to Southern California, we gotta come out and 434 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: see you because that would be an incredible show. And yeah, 435 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: you also have your your lay cool Champagne. Uh where 436 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: can people get this? 437 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: Well, right now, you can get it online who Champagne 438 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: dot com. Well it's sanatorial as who get into Champagne 439 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: in different states? Right now? We have a new Jersey, 440 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: we have Florida. We're working back again in Ohio, Las Vegas. 441 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: You know, we're building the market. 442 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: Robert, thank you so much for taking the time talking 443 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: to us. You are a legend and Cooling the Gang 444 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: is probably the coolest band coming out of the seventies. 445 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Just incredible music, incredible guys, and uh and thank you 446 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: for all you do and keep doing it. And that's 447 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: going to wrap us here on on this segment. And uh, 448 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: Robert cool Bell, thank you Sarah for joining us, and 449 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: thanks to the best fans on the planet. Keep the 450 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: downloads coming, cards and letters, and remember where you lead, 451 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: we will follow. Stay safe everyone, Let's keep and let's 452 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: keep the funk. Alive, absolutely everybody, and don't forget. 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