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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of players in today's era

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Speaker 1: that would have a hard time playing today's game both ways.

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Speaker 1: There's no position for him on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the ball or pass. In those days, when you play

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Speaker 1: both ways, they had to have a second position. Now,

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Speaker 1: how good were they at that second position? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: would they be good enough to be a receiver, you

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Speaker 1: know in the modern era or a you know, a

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Speaker 1: linebacker in the modern era, maybe not, But the combination

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Speaker 1: of both and being able to play both is what

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Speaker 1: made them great in their days. So I look at

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Speaker 1: players that dominated in their era, the thirties and the forties,

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Speaker 1: the Dutch Clarks of the world, and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: guys like that Don Hudson, people like that that dominated

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Speaker 1: their era. But they were also two way players. And

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Speaker 1: I look at players in the seventies, eighties, and nineties

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Speaker 1: that dominated their game. Um, that weren't two way players,

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Speaker 1: but they dominated their game in the game that they played.

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Speaker 1: They weren't playing two ways at that point. So, but

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting conversation. We try to compare the two

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of what makes it makes it fun,

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Speaker 1: makes it interesting. I think once you get past called

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty, you can look at you know, one way

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Speaker 1: players and it's apples to apples. You know, how good

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Speaker 1: was the guy? In sixty how good was the guy?

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Speaker 1: And nineteen eighty five and you're in with Paul Brown

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Speaker 1: in the first two coaches selected. So Congress, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty gone right there. I'd say to me that

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Speaker 1: the great, great, great players are the ones that could

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Speaker 1: have played in any era. And so we started with

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Speaker 1: Jim Brown. Um, Jim Brown could have played I think

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Speaker 1: at any time, both ways, one way, wherever you want

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Speaker 1: to play them. Lacrosse too, Yeah, but we're talking about football.

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Speaker 1: You fascinated with the reaction to getting from players Emmett

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Speaker 1: and guys that are talking to you about this because

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Speaker 1: here you are legendary coach, you're one of the people

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Speaker 1: on this panel, and the players sitting there going hearing

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Speaker 1: you talk about them, and I was I was fascinated

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Speaker 1: in that angle of it. Yeah, I don't, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about Yeah. So that was, you know, coach them. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the game, I saw you had like

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Speaker 1: this patch or this a new jack and a patch,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's it was it was taps tragedy

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Speaker 1: assistant program for survivors that I got that right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: was that I know it's a salute to service. Was

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Speaker 1: that your choice? And if it was, what's it about

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Speaker 1: all the uh? Yeah, So all the players and coaches

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Speaker 1: for the game had um UM a uh either well

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Speaker 1: a number on the helmet for the players and the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff all had a pen of of the person

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Speaker 1: that they UM were honoring, uh that you know, gave

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Speaker 1: their life for the country. So uh, Dan Healey was

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Speaker 1: was mine. He was a Navy seal from Center New

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Speaker 1: Hampshire and uh but each each person, each coach, each

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Speaker 1: player had had someone that they represented either with the

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Speaker 1: initials or the pen and so we UM did things

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Speaker 1: for the families and knew about each person, you know,

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Speaker 1: where they're from, what their what branch of service, what

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Speaker 1: their interests were, and so forth. And so there was

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Speaker 1: a little bit we did that last year as well.

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Speaker 1: It was a very uh in a touching and personal

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Speaker 1: uh you know, tribute and uh in training camp. The

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Speaker 1: TAPS families came out this year as they have uh

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Speaker 1: I don't know it's the last two years or three years,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, but uh so families of UM you know,

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Speaker 1: fallen soldiers. The fallen soldiers were you know, in training camp,

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Speaker 1: so you know, meet members of the family and you

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Speaker 1: know kind of you know, make a little bit of connection,

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Speaker 1: you know, show your appreciation for them. Obviously it's very

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Speaker 1: very difficult. That's a cool that they're in. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that was it was everybody, although all the team

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Speaker 1: members participated in that. Okay, yes, so we'll go from

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Speaker 1: that to the drive of the week. All right, coach,

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Speaker 1: what do you think drive of the week? Well, you

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Speaker 1: want to take the touchdown drive? Uh, that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. Shut one, Yeah, two plays right,

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Speaker 1: big catch by n Kiel, Harry, I mean difficult catch too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was good. That was a great throw, great catch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ballhead can only be in put in one spot and

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Speaker 1: it was tough adjustment for Nikiel and I made a

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Speaker 1: great catch on the ball. So yeah, you know, the

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Speaker 1: drive at the end of the first half, even though

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Speaker 1: we didn't score, was a big The drive dn the game,

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Speaker 1: even though we didn't score, was big. Um a third

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Speaker 1: quarter one two. I think it started in the third

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Speaker 1: quarter and went into the fourth. You guys got a

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Speaker 1: field goal out of third and seven. Brady hit Myerson

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Speaker 1: a big play in that one, ye going, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a big play. Yeah. I mean it's one of those

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Speaker 1: games where field position and um, you know, being able

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Speaker 1: to maintain the ball for a little bit longer and

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Speaker 1: then turn it over on a long field to the

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Speaker 1: opponent was you know, the all those were really important.

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Speaker 1: It was just that kind of game, all right. The

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Speaker 1: Have a happy Thanksgiving. Bill. We'll see you back here

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Speaker 1: on Monday after the Houston game. Thank you. Same to

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Speaker 1: all the listeners. Happy Thanksgiving. Go do it then, Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick right here on OMF and Patriots Monday,