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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, and welcome to the almost of his podcast.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to start with big news, big exciting news

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Speaker 2: that I know Ben is going to really appreciate. Ben.

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Speaker 2: Guess what. I I don't like Braiden anymore. There's no okay,

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Speaker 2: I have no sympathies for Braiden. Okay, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that I never really liked it, liked him, but like,

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Speaker 2: I have no sympathies anymore.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you want to hear something weird?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, now you have sympathies.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he was completely in the wrong during

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Speaker 3: this episode.

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Speaker 2: Why we're gonna get this. We'll get into it now.

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Speaker 2: You want to wait, you want to hold on.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get into that and talking about the Golden

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Speaker 4: Bachelor and breaking down Bachelor headlines. Let's start out with, Yes,

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Speaker 4: the big announcement that happened this week, We've been waiting

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Speaker 4: for you here in the Almost Famous podcast. It was

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Speaker 4: great to hear the host of Good Morning America be

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Speaker 4: genuinely excited about the concept of this show.

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Speaker 3: You could you.

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Speaker 4: Could tell that they're like, this is just interesting, no

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Speaker 4: matter what like, even if the show is like really

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Speaker 4: awkward and weird, it's an interesting concept.

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Speaker 3: The Golden Bachelor was announced.

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Speaker 4: We got our first interview with him. His name is

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Speaker 4: I believe is it Gary or Jerry.

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Speaker 2: It's Gary Gary. It looks like Jerry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I know he's from Indiana.

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Speaker 2: So you're right.

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Speaker 4: I was right Hudson, Indiana, which I've been to. It's

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Speaker 4: not very far from my hometown. He when he was

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Speaker 4: sharing his story, actually, my mom and I were watching

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Speaker 4: it and a tear came to my eye just even

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Speaker 4: hearing the fact where he was like, I have her

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Speaker 4: picture in my closet. We were like high school sweethearts.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I have my picture. I have her picture in

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Speaker 2: my closet.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, right where he gets ready in the morning,

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Speaker 4: he has a picture of his wife and he looks

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Speaker 4: at it because they asked like, how would she feel

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Speaker 4: about this, and he's like, we always said, whoever goes first,

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Speaker 4: we want to other to be happy, and I I

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Speaker 4: know she's like my biggest fan, and his daughters are

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Speaker 4: the ones that signed him up.

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Speaker 3: He seems excited.

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Speaker 4: It's just so interesting, Like I love that he has

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Speaker 3: I love me too.

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Speaker 4: I just love it and a good looking fella. I

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Speaker 4: have high hopes me too.

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Speaker 2: So I was reading the responses from the official Bachelor

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Speaker 2: page once they put up his picture, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: are they deleting any bad comments because there is truly

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Speaker 2: none to be found. People are really excited. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, people can always find flaw

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Speaker 2: in anything, but everybody seemed really stoked. There were a

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Speaker 2: couple that were like, this will save the franchise, and

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Speaker 2: most people shocked that he is almost seventy two years old.

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Speaker 2: He does look like he looks great.

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Speaker 3: Looks fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm telling you this, if anybody has a negative comment,

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Speaker 4: they can hate the Bachelor, they can hate the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 4: They can be upset at the franchise for all the

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Speaker 4: things that the franchise has done and not done.

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Speaker 3: I get that, Okay, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: But if you are upset with a guy in his

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Speaker 4: seventies and women in whatever age range they're going to

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Speaker 4: come into trying to have a second chance at love

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Speaker 4: and doing it on a television show, that could end

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Speaker 4: up being one of the coolest, most exhilarating. Adrenaline rushed

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Speaker 4: like moments in his life, doing interviews with Good Morning America,

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Speaker 4: going on probably talk shows. If you're gonna have negative

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Speaker 4: comments on that, you are a human I don't want

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Speaker 4: to meet.

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Speaker 2: Is what's his occupation?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm sure if you're tired, you.

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Speaker 2: Think he's retired. We don't know what his former occupation is,

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Speaker 3: He has a lank house. He's fine right now.

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Speaker 2: Whoever gets to be with him, they just get to

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Speaker 4: So it's such a cool concept. We're really pumping for him.

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Speaker 4: We'll hope to bring on the podcast here very soon.

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Speaker 3: A get older, the end of guy.

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Speaker 2: You need to talk to this man?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I would love to. And here's the thing. I

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Speaker 4: Like what is gonna be the thing that people are

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Speaker 4: Nobody is there for the wrong reasons. Nobody is there

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Speaker 4: to get fame. If you're there to get fame in

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Speaker 3: It's it would be exhausting.

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Speaker 4: Like I think they're just there gonna have a cool experience,

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Speaker 3: Up a bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, find love, and if they don't find love, they

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Speaker 3: I mean the watch parties, Ashley.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine like the watch parties of the kids

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Speaker 4: Like it's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 2: Usually it's what are my parents gonna have the And

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Speaker 2: just gonna be This is gonna be so much fun.

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Speaker 2: We got to have him on here, you guys. I

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Speaker 2: did start the petition that we mentioned on Friday when

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Speaker 2: we recorded that podcast exclusively about this show, and we

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Speaker 2: have over two thousand signatures. It's only been up on

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Speaker 2: Instagram for about twelve hours now, So go to my

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Speaker 2: Instagram sign the petition for Ben to become the host

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Speaker 2: of this There is still no host attached to it.

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Speaker 3: You know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is crazy that they did the announcement without

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Speaker 2: even being like ready enough to shoot for there being

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I was asking you, I don't know yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh well they would say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they would have hosted by Jesse Palmer. Yeah, hosted

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Speaker 2: Pat say Jack is retiring from Real Fortunes so he

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Speaker 2: can host the Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can we just like think about the Golden Bachelorette for

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Speaker 2: a second. If this show does do you well.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, I'm telling you, actually.

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Speaker 2: People are gonna love it no matter what.

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Speaker 4: I am gonna be the biggest fan of this show.

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Speaker 4: It is gonna be like my guilty pleasure. You're gonna

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Speaker 4: see me more excited for Like, I think there's gonna

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Speaker 3: Bachelor, and I think it's gonna be the gold back.

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Speaker 4: I think people are gonna get together together to watch

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Speaker 4: gonna be an interesting thing. You know, what are the ratings?

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Speaker 4: What is the response on social media? That kind of stuff,

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Speaker 4: But either way, we're very excited. The Golden Bachelor has

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Speaker 4: been announced. He is a Hoosier. He's from about forty

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Speaker 4: five minutes from where.

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Speaker 3: I grew up.

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Speaker 2: Is wild? It just like she leaves on a lake

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Speaker 2: for this. And what we said on Friday, Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: so what are they thinking? Not just having you sign

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Speaker 2: Charity season. Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: I am so ready?

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Speaker 4: What an episode not for Here's my overal thoughts in

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Speaker 3: Not the most entertaining episode, there's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So glad that you said that, because I was like,

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Speaker 4: Well, the end, you know, the end really picked it up.

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Speaker 4: We'll start with Darren Washington. It looks freezing, but it

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Speaker 4: Dunton gets the uh but uh the first uh one

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Speaker 3: We were excited for doing to get this date.

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Speaker 4: We we've been looking forward for more time with him

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Speaker 4: and Charity together.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, so so glad that he has the state,

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Speaker 2: And I'm actually so glad that Xavier gets the second

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Speaker 3: It did give us quality.

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Speaker 4: Ashlely My take though I've always been a fan of Xavier.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that later.

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Speaker 4: But with Doton, I really want to see their connection

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Speaker 3: Am I crazy? Disagree with me?

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Speaker 4: Here? Am I crazy to think that their conversations don't

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Speaker 4: It is the first one on one, is their first

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Speaker 4: Like I know everybody is saying, hey, this is it,

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Speaker 3: I'm not there yet.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying this thing is closed out because it

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Speaker 3: It's it's early on.

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Speaker 4: Still I think it can progress that, but I'm not

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Speaker 4: sold out that he is, yes, one hundred percent the guy.

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Speaker 2: What conversations are you referring to, like the bungee jumping

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Speaker 4: Later in the night, I know they open up, but

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Speaker 4: it felt like it felt like a conversation where it's like,

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Speaker 4: tell me your response, I'll tell you mine. Like it

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Speaker 4: felt very much like a first date conversation of here's

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Speaker 4: who I am, which is awesome, Here's who I want

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Speaker 3: It didn't feel like.

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Speaker 4: The hey, let's you know, joke around, like let's have

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Speaker 4: like we're comfortable with moments of silence. Yet they're just

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Speaker 4: not there yet. I don't expect there yet. It's a

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Speaker 4: first date. But that's also why I'm saying I'm not, like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent convinced that he is going

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Speaker 4: to be her choice at the end, because we haven't

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Speaker 4: seen them get comfortable yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think what you mean is like, it's not

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Speaker 2: flirty conversation, it's not really romance. The conversation I am

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Speaker 2: because she is so freaking giddy. Yeah, and because there's

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Speaker 2: feels strong and loyal, He like just really gives off

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Speaker 3: M I think he does. I think he's really in

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Speaker 3: the charity.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that there's gonna be any like red

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just not I'm just not convinced that Xavier

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Speaker 4: Final thoughts on doting for me Ashley is, I'm very

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you don't see him at all, to

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Speaker 4: I bet he's sitting on the couch having a cocktail,

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's very attractive, right the best.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Actually maybe you know in life you want to

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Speaker 4: I think he's socially aware enough to be like, this

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Speaker 4: There's a bunch of dudes like trying to puff their

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's Aaron.

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Speaker 4: If I ever needed to be that guy, I can

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Speaker 3: Okay, So then me get to the group day, actually

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Speaker 2: Okay. So the guys are supposed to go find food

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Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what kind of scouts they are. Really,

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes they were. They took their job very seriously,

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Speaker 2: Who wants to who wants to be a Chad You're saying, yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: He definitely thinks he's funny, and he and.

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Speaker 3: He and I think it comes from a good place.

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Speaker 4: I think he thinks the louder he is, the more

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Speaker 4: I think he's trying to show very outwardly and very

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Speaker 2: But it also Teeter Totter's just as an audience member.

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Speaker 4: Sure, it's like it's like watching a middle schooler run

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Speaker 4: Know, this day intriguing because the show didn't set them

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Speaker 4: The funny part for me was Aaron b was gonna

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Speaker 4: I thought he I think he thinks he was gonna

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what stands up to me is Tanner's presentation

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Speaker 2: I find Tanner to be kind of adorable. He has

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Speaker 3: A good.

445
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 2: Do you feel big romance from him. They're not even

446
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 2: presenting him like that. You can tell on the show

447
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 2: like how they present somebody. But I enjoyed, like when

448
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 2: he's on my screen, he's like lighthearted and it feels

449
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: like it brings a levity. Uh what else was worth

450
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: mentioning besides the questions? So the girls ask questions and

451
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: they go to Braiden and what Brayden say. He's like,

452
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: I just want to find a connection. Be content, be content.

453
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: Oh my dude, dude, he just keeps her rubbing it in.

454
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: He's like, I just want you to know very clearly

455
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: that I am not necessarily here for a minutes at least.

456
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: I know that's what I've been saying.

457
00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 4: She's getting it. It just really feels like to me,

458
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 4: Braiden is he he hasn't made like a good choice

459
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 4: since like really he stepped out of Limo. I mean,

460
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 4: he did do fine on night one, but I had

461
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 4: my concerns. The guy just continues to do the wrong

462
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 4: thing or the most annoying thing or the thing that's

463
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 4: going to make the house the most upset. I don't

464
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 4: know if he realized how upset all the guys were at.

465
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 2: Braiden until the moment where we had braid and Braiden

466
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: Brand and Braiden on all the boards.

467
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

468
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: What a weird question, Like if you had to survive,

469
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 4: who would you eat first? Like what a weird way

470
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 4: to phrase that. It just made me the Yellow Jacket

471
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 4: Show and that kind of freaked me out.

472
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 3: To that show freaks me out, perfect.

473
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: Way to pinpoint the villain in case Charity wasn't already aware,

474
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 2: which I think she was, but she was also I

475
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: think a little bit sad to see that like everybody

476
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: was against him.

477
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 4: Everybody was against him. Well, we're going then into the

478
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: night time portion of date right away. Right this all

479
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 4: escalates to the moment we've all kind of been wondering

480
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 4: when it was going to happen. The guys are talking

481
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: to Braiden. Braiden is trying to defend himself well at

482
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 4: the same time kind of digging himself into a bigger hole.

483
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 4: He's still being very honest, so he's still being very

484
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: clear about his intentions, and it would be great to

485
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 4: get him on the show at some point and understand

486
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 4: exactly what he was there for then, because if he

487
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: was there just for a good time and to have

488
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 4: a good experience and to be really happy that he

489
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 4: did it, that's one thing. But if he was really

490
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 4: ever there for Charity, that's a question I still have

491
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 4: on my mind. But she walks in on it, confronts

492
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: her right away, pulls him aside, and that's where their

493
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 4: conversation starts.

494
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: And to me, what encapsulates it all is when he well,

495
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: he tells her I like you, but I don't know

496
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: where this is going basically, and it's just like okay,

497
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: that just okay, I like you, but just eliminate him

498
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: right here. But like he also put himself in the

499
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: position and the power position. I think that he wanted

500
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: to self eliminate in that moment because he knew that

501
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: she was going to eliminate him, if not in that moment,

502
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 2: that probably later in the episode, later in the week,

503
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: and that was a dick move, right. Did you find

504
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: that he was doing that?

505
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 3: I did.

506
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's again he was definitely trying

507
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 4: to defend himself and he definitely felt at this moment like, hey,

508
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: my leash here is short and I don't have a

509
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: lot of room left in this experience, so let me

510
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: go out. However I want to go out. We can

511
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: get into later on when he comes back and why.

512
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 4: I think that how he exited was exactly why he

513
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 4: came back to kind of apologize and to say, hey,

514
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 4: I don't know I've had a few days or a

515
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 4: few hours to think about this. I was I was wrong.

516
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 4: I did some stupid stuff here. That's why I don't

517
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: blame him for coming back. I think it's a very

518
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 4: fair thing for somebody to do, especially somebody that has

519
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: to cause so much chaos and so much confusion for her.

520
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that here in a second. But yeah,

521
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 4: he definitely was, but he has eliminated it. He goes home.

522
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 4: He does give the great little cliffhanger that we all

523
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: love where he says, is this over?

524
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, That's what he says. I don't know, man,

525
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: It's over.

526
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 2: So when it comes down to it, Brandon signed up

527
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: for a show where like the main point is to

528
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: get engaged at the end, and every single week he

529
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: was like, I don't really know if I like the

530
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: point of this show, you know, like I really just

531
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: want contentment at the end of this maybe just want

532
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 2: to date, like see if I like someone, you know,

533
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: if I like someone, that's cool.

534
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

535
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: I was just waiting for him to be like, you know,

536
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: what would be awesome, Charity. I think you're awesome, But

537
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: what I'm really here for is like more of a selection,

538
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: so I would I would love to go on Paradise. Like,

539
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 4: if you want to keep me around long enough for that,

540
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: that'd be really cool.

541
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: I'd appreciate it.

542
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 4: And then then you can say goodbye to me whenever

543
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: you want, but just keep me along long enough to

544
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: come to Paradise.

545
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: I believe he will be in Paradise.

546
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 4: I believe he fulfilled his mission by going on a

547
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: show and causing enough stir up that he will be

548
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 4: sent to the beach. And who knows what he's like

549
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 4: on the beach. I hope it's a good redemption story

550
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: for him. We wisht upon everybody, but right now, Braiden

551
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: is going home. Everybody in the house is excited. I

552
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: think viewers are excited because it didn't feel like the

553
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 4: show stretched out the Braiden storyline one week too.

554
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: It felt like this is the week that needed he

555
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: needed to go home.

556
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: We didn't, you know, he didn't consume our television all

557
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: the time. We did have great moments with some other guys,

558
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: including Xavier, who gets the next date now for the

559
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: rest of the group date, Actually, no really memorable moments

560
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 4: for me, other than a few of the guys do

561
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 4: make a connection like, you know, Joey continues to be

562
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 4: really good at kissing.

563
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: Charity, and you know, Sean you know, continues to kind

564
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: of be there.

565
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: I don't see, like what was Sean right? Sean is

566
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: still around and like to fast forward to the end

567
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: of the episode, he like gets to the top six

568
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: six left, right, Sean, there's something like to caricature about

569
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: this guy to take seriously.

570
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

571
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with Braydon when he says that he

572
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: kind of like reminds him of the like the prince

573
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: from Shrek or whatever they guys.

574
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't, does he. That's like really not a

575
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: compliment because people always say no, but because everybody makes

576
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: fun of like when their hair, Prince Barguad, So like

577
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: when your hair when you're a girl and like your

578
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: hair is like really limp and like just to your

579
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: shoulders and it's the center par and you feel like

580
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: it's not styled. Like that's when you make fun of

581
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: yourself and you say you look like Prince Farquad. But

582
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: but the thing is so like he's like never this

583
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: Lord Farkwad, Lord farkwah, thank you Hannah, Lord Parkuad. Yeah,

584
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: but like I guess like he's but he is Lord

585
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: Farkwad at the same time, because he's just like ridiculous,

586
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: and he does kind of have a character face where

587
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: he looks like he's more of like a cartoon right,

588
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: not likely in a bad way, Like he's an attractive guy.

589
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 4: Of course, he's an attractive guy and he's but yes,

590
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 4: I mean he does. He's definitely playing that role. He

591
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: definitely isn't doing anything to help himself from looking like

592
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: Lord Farquad. He has the haircut, he has every I mean,

593
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 4: he has everything that you would expect, and he still

594
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: wears a.

595
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: Scarf, yeah, which is Kashmir. You know. That's why his

596
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: scarf is different than Brandon's scarf. He does lean into it.

597
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 2: So as long as he's self aware, I'm cool it.

598
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: If his hair wasn't swoopy, I'd also be able to

599
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: take it more seriously, Like if you just have like

600
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: a normal haircut, like you or Jared, I'd be like, oh, yeah,

601
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: like this dude, but like he's such a cartoon character

602
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: with his swoop.

603
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 4: I want the moment where we see him.

604
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: Hair using the hair dryer and like doing the flips.

605
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you know, what happens and it's on camera.

606
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: That's that doesn't come naturally. Yeah.

607
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: No, so the havior date, Yeah, Xavier date when I

608
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: was excited for all season. I've been a fan of

609
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: I've been a fan of Xavier since really Weak two.

610
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: So I liked Xavier since his opening package. I knew

611
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: that he got into science because his mom has an

612
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: autoimmune disease. I just of course that's like awesome that

613
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: he would want to get into it to see what

614
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: he can do to help people, including his mom, in

615
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: the future. So I've been keeping an eye out for

616
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: him because of that, but I didn't remember that was

617
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: the reason until he brought it back up on this date.

618
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's always kind of been that sneaky like front

619
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: runner here for me where ever since Dodgeball. He was

620
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: really like good at Dodgeball, but he was also very

621
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: like fun and competitive. I think he showed a great

622
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 4: side of himself because he didn't win the MVP, and

623
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: I think he should have obviously, and so that was

624
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 4: kind of there. He handled that well. I didn't remember

625
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: about the autoimmune disorder that his mother had until he

626
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: did bring it up.

627
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 3: But he you know, there's this there's this element of people.

628
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 4: I think when you sit down with him and they've

629
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 4: gone through that kind of pain. I remember a few

630
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: seasons ago with Sarah, who's dad headed a less like

631
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 4: there is a like you grow as a human, especially

632
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: when a loved one is sick and you're caring for them,

633
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: and then when you choose to do something about it.

634
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: I just think that it's you know, it's not only respectable,

635
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: it's admirable, and it's then it's just like I watch

636
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: these leaders in life kind of and all, and I

637
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: think he's always kind of been that.

638
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: I believe he will stay that.

639
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: That's why you know he has always been up there

640
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: for me, because because if Charity doesn't choose him, I

641
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: don't think it's going to be for any reason.

642
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: Other than maybe she likes like has a connection with

643
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: somebody more.

644
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: But he will be the type of guy who could

645
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: be this next bachelor, who could be the lead of

646
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: a season and be fantastic. And I think that's kind

647
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: of where he's sneaky at. He's either the pick or

648
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 4: I think he's the next Bachelor.

649
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: And I'll say that.

650
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I would not mind that at all. He

651
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: has such a good heart and It's funny because the

652
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: first part of this date, we're not thinking about that.

653
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: We're thinking about him being a flirt.

654
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: We're thinking about him.

655
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Over complimenting her. That's an issue with her. And I'm thinking,

656
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: for a second, over complimenting her physical appearance. That's an issue.

657
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: And then I thought, Okay, would that annoy me on

658
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: a first date? And I guess to a certain extent,

659
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: like if you're just giving so many compliments about how

660
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: pretty you are, then you're like, okay, okay, all right,

661
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: I thank you, But yeah, you do really want them

662
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: to compliment your inside, your personality as well your intelligence.

663
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 2: I think that it was probably just a way of

664
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: making her feel comfortable, but for her it was raising

665
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: a red flag, which I think, you know a lot

666
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: of people wouldn't really raise a red flag on a

667
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: first date, but it was because I think that this

668
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: deep rooted fear of infidelity for her, which reminded her

669
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: of her past her ex and like maybe she thought that, oh,

670
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: compliments about my physical appearance? Is he just going to

671
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: be so like physically oriented and I do have to

672
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: worry about him cheating on me? Did you understand that

673
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: thought process of hers? Because they didn't really spell it out.

674
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm just assumed. I mean, that was kind of what

675
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: you was thinking.

676
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: I think is exactly what she was thinking.

677
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's like I have my pet peeves, right,

678
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: there's very They're very clear, and after you've listened to this

679
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: podcast long enough, you know what those are.

680
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: You have yours. We all have those like little things

681
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: in our mind that kind of set us off and

682
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 3: like make us, yeah, take a step back. And for her,

683
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure some guy.

684
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: Was like very complimentary of her, said a lot of

685
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: great words, but failed her in you know, some way,

686
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: and she's spoken to that and she hasn't spoken and

687
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: enough clarity about it there we like really know the storyline.

688
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: She just kind of like mentions it. Probably doesn't want

689
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: to get into the depths of it.

690
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 4: Or at least not yet, but I do think that's

691
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: probably what was happening. And so she hears that and

692
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 4: she's hesitant, and she's like, Hey, this good looking guy

693
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: who's really charismatic, he's really smart, is showing very similar

694
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: signs to a guy I dated in the past and

695
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: that didn't go well for me. And I bet also

696
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 4: she went on of the season thinking I'm not going

697
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: to date people that I've typically dated because that's never

698
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: worked out for me. So I want to date somebody different.

699
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: But he's not different. He's the type of guy I

700
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 4: always go for.

701
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: Until the dinner part and then she was like total

702
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: change of mind when he started talking about his parents,

703
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: who have been married for thirty years. Her parents, remember,

704
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: have been married for like forty seven forty three, some

705
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: crazy number for their age and her age an impressive number.

706
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: And thirty years for him and his parents, and his

707
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: dad is the main caregiver for the mom and that

708
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: obviously shows so much. And that's the kind of marriage

709
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: that you want. And it's nice that they both can

710
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: bond over their parents' relationship being so strong. And I

711
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: think that always. Do you do you think it's wrong

712
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: for me to say that. I think that two people

713
00:34:54,640 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: that come from to healthy parental marriages, they can go

714
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: into a serious relationship easier.

715
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean I think that's I think they've

716
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 4: had it modeled for them. I think you know you've

717
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: seen it. You know it can happen, like you've seen

718
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 4: the difficulties, but you've also seen the beauty of it.

719
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's definitely something to look at.

720
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: And then I think in their case, from what it

721
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: sounds like, their parents really like each other still, right, Like,

722
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: you've still very much in love and like with each other.

723
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: And I think that's something to strive for, because if

724
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 4: you spend forty three years with somebody who has literally

725
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: seen you naked and unashamed and seen every side of

726
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 4: you and every part of you, and you still.

727
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: Like them, you're still the biggest fan.

728
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 4: I think it's something like we all could dream for, right, So, yes,

729
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: and so he does show a different side, or a

730
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: side that maybe proves to her, hey, he isn't like

731
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: everybody else. And and the day ends in a rowse

732
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: Xavier is going to be there a while, and that

733
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: gets to the cocktail party. Actually, the cocktail party is

734
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: really not a cocktail party about Braiden, and again it's

735
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 4: all about Braiden. Again, it's his last stand. He comes

736
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: into the room kind of just walked by the guys,

737
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: interrupts a moment with John, who unfortunately goes home, which

738
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 4: is wild to me because they're making out.

739
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So my issue was that John was like, you

740
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: interrupted my time, like he was so offended, which I

741
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: understand you should totally be offended by Braiden, this guy

742
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: who was eliminated earlier in the week, taking your time.

743
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: But my question to you, John is truly, truly were

744
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: you going to talk to her anymore? Or are you

745
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: just going to continue making out? Because normally the making

746
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: out portion of time alone when you're dating is like

747
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: what ends your time together?

748
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 4: Right?

749
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: You never like talk and then make out and you

750
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 2: know what, let's go back to this talking thing. Especially

751
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: on The Bachelor, you just don't do it. That's the

752
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: way you wrap up your time.

753
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: And you don't have that much time. We saw what

754
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: forty five seconds of their time together. I mean that's

755
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: at least one third of what he would probably get either.

756
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: Way, somebody else is gonna interrupt.

757
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's lucky to get any moments.

758
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 4: It is interesting though, that she was making out with

759
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: him like this and he still goes home.

760
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: I was thinking that that I wanted to ask you

761
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: and be like, Ben, would you ever make out with

762
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: somebody like that and then eliminate them? I don't really

763
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: had to have.

764
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 4: I had to have, but like you, like, you don't

765
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: want to, you don't like to. It's usually because you

766
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 4: have nothing to talk about, and there's no connection there,

767
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: so you're like, exactly, we call it here, or we

768
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 4: just start kissing for the next two minutes, and then

769
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: somebody comes and interrupts it.

770
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 3: I know.

771
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: I was like, John, if you're really that offended by

772
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: your time being taken over, you definitely should have been

773
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: spending your time talking.

774
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: Braiden is not the reason that John at home. Let's

775
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 4: just make that No, he's not the reason that John

776
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: at home. Braiden does come in, they sit down and talk.

777
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily have a problem with his conversation with her.

778
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem at all. I do think

779
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 4: it's always weird when somebody comes back. But I do

780
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: feel like he left and probably felt pretty guilty, wanted

781
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: to clear some eric, wanted to kind of make this

782
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 4: all make more sense. It's still Braiden, so like, none

783
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: of this is going to be like not a little

784
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: bit annoying and not a little bit weird. But he

785
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: did it, And the response from the other guys is

786
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: what I say, is when we were talking about last

787
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 4: week and I said, hey, I don't really like I'm

788
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: not like in love with this cast because they just

789
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: seem to want to heighten the moments of drama and chaos,

790
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: like these dudes are there. All they had to do

791
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: was sit back on that couch and let him walk

792
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 4: out the door and get in the bus.

793
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: And leave instead. I don't know what they were wanting

794
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: to do. Were they wanted to tend.

795
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: To apologize, were they wanting to like fight him one

796
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: on fifteen, like.

797
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: They go, I've never been this mad, this upset in

798
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 2: my entire life. I know, guys, you think really need

799
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: to get some respective.

800
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: Marriage.

801
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 4: Then I want to know the guy, like, what do

802
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: you mean you haven't got that mad at anything?

803
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 3: There's no injustices in this world.

804
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. I was like, you guys

805
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: really need to prioritize what's important in this world.

806
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 4: Some dude is living rent free in his head, and

807
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: I know Aaron b says that it's not.

808
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: It is because that dude had.

809
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: Every opportunity to like be the front runner, to have

810
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: the best connection with Charity, to really be the man

811
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 4: and all of this since week one, and he has

812
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 4: came really close.

813
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: Now he hasn't yet, but he came really close.

814
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: To letting Braiden ruin that all because Braiden did live

815
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: rent free in his head. I don't know what they

816
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 4: were doing. It wasn't a good look. I don't think

817
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 4: for any of those guys who went out there and

818
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: yelled at him. I get that he's annoying. I get

819
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: that he's on your nerves. I get that he came back.

820
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 4: I understand all of that. I understand it's frustrating. But,

821
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: like I said, the dots of the world and I

822
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: don't remember seeing Ze.

823
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: It wasn't there. I don't remember either of them present.

824
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: Joey was Joey not there.

825
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: He he wasn't in the forefront of my mind when

826
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: I'm thinking back on that scene.

827
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: It's just it's frustrating that they did that because it's

828
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 4: it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

829
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: But they did it. And I that's why I.

830
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: Think we could literally right now say, okay, who wrote

831
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: who walked out to that bus, who was yelling into

832
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 4: the bus that, like, we can eliminate that those guys

833
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: are here at the end, because I don't think Charity'd

834
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: probably into it.

835
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: If she was standing there, she would be like, yeah,

836
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 3: get them boys.

837
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree she They definitely seem more bothered than

838
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: she doesn't, and he was the one who basically eliminated

839
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: himself on her Aaron b loves to freaking hate Branden.

840
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: He secretly loves the he does love the drama or

841
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: you know, big proving like he's a big man. That's

842
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: what braid is and said, I do feel like he's

843
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: got that like he wants to prove it. He's kind

844
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: of macho.

845
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 4: It was only it was been the only time since

846
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: we since the show started that I've been like, okay,

847
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: I get Braiden here, like I see I'm on Braidon's side,

848
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: like I would be the being the bus being like, hey,

849
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: can you shut the door so I can leave, Like

850
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: I'm ready to go. I've gotten everything out of me

851
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: that I need to. He just I think at that

852
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: point it felt weird. And again I don't know what

853
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 4: they were wanting to do. Were they wanting to beat

854
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 4: him up? Is that really what they thought? Or are

855
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: they just all trying to get like their voices heard.

856
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so their interpretation is that their interpretation was

857
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: that Charity eliminated him, not that he like kind of

858
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: self eliminated. So maybe they were riled up with the

859
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: fact that like he tried to come back when she

860
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: didn't want him around anymore.

861
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: Well, on the other side of that too, is I

862
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: think they were a little upset that they felt like

863
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: John didn't get the time he deserved, And I think

864
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: they were wrapping their up in their frustrations at John

865
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: thing at the time he deserved, which again is weird

866
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: to me.

867
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what it was. They were trying to

868
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: defend him.

869
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. I sat on the Bachelorette I remember very clearly,

870
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: and similar situations erupted right where somebody.

871
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: Didn't get the time that they wanted to have with

872
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: Kaitlyn at the time.

873
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: And as bad as I felt, I was pretty through it,

874
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: like why would I want any of these other dude? Like,

875
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: I am so happy that it wasn't me, But I'm

876
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: sitting there going like, why is anybody protecting John?

877
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: Let John stand up for himself.

878
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: Do you know why? Because they wanted to get they

879
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 2: wanted to get fire air or something. They just wanted

880
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: to they wanted to kind of enjoy drama for a second.

881
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: But mostly they defended him because they knew he stood

882
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: no chance. Like he kept saying, I'm on the topping

883
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: block and everybody else knew that he was on the

884
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: topping block, so yeah, they'll just they'll get riled up

885
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: for that. But what if that happened to Doan? What

886
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: did that happened to Xavier? What if that happened to Joey?

887
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: There's no way that they're going all after him.

888
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 3: No, they're like that that's the best. Thanks Braden, thank you? Yeah?

889
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: Uh is there anything else I want to say about

890
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: Braiden before he actually makes his final goodbye? I mean

891
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: the ear rings this week where those were those were outrageous?

892
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was his final stand? He needed he needed

893
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: to do something big? But no, he is now eliminated.

894
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: Braidon is no longer with us, along with.

895
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: Don who else, Caleb the wrestler, and Michael who. I

896
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: truly looked at Michael this episode and I was like,

897
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: who are you?

898
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 3: We haven't seen we haven't seen you once, We have.

899
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: Not seen any connection there. I'm wild out at the

900
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: fact that we have six guys left, and let's count

901
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: them now. We have Doton, we have Xavier, we have Joey,

902
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: we have Sean and Tanner and Aaron b We've never

903
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: been down to six by the going into week five,

904
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 2: never ever kind of love it, kind of love it.

905
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna get to know these guys very well. Ashley,

906
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: who's your top two, let's say your top three at this.

907
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: Point in order, don't number one. I think she likes

908
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: Joey over Xavier, but those are my three, Okay.

909
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Xavier, Doton, Joey.

910
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: I really don't know if there's anybody outside of those three.

911
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: There's nobody even close in my mind right now.

912
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: That's another thing that's unique to this season. I'm looking

913
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: at these guys going into week five. We still have

914
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: so many weeks left, and nobody stands a chance outside

915
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: those three.

916
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: This is this will.

917
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: Honestly, I couldn't call it. So it's a week cast.

918
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: These guys might be really nice, but you think about

919
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: your cast compared to.

920
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: It's a week cast. But I think it's a strong

921
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 3: top three.

922
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Like, that's fine. That's what I

923
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: said last week. Like I feel bad because eh to

924
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: the majority, but all that really matters is that she

925
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: has her few very strong contenders.

926
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Because I mean we're saying Sean, Aaron, b and

927
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: Tanner don't don't really have a shot, And I think

928
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: that's I think it's true. I don't even see any

929
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: of them making a run at this thing. I think

930
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 4: Tanner still has the potential, but we'll be interested to

931
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 4: see she.

932
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: Goes on a one on one with Sean. You can

933
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: see that in the scenes in the next episode.

934
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: I don't think it goes well.

935
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm assuming he's not gonna get a rose at the

936
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: end of that. I love the fact that we're going

937
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: in with such few people though, because this is kind

938
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: of what I've been asking for, so that the ending

939
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: can be really focused on the ones that matter.

940
00:45:50,840 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a great season so far. We're really

941
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: happy with the season and watching it, We've been entertained,

942
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: we've been intrigued, and I think the love stories now

943
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 4: are really going to blossom. And I think that's always

944
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: the most fun part and always the most intriguing part

945
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 4: and also the most part warming and wrenching part of

946
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 4: the show. So we'll be back next week breaking down

947
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: another episode of this season. We don't miss a week,

948
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: but we do have bachelor headlines to get into Ashley.

949
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: And there are some big ones this week, including this one.

950
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: Sean Booth has announced that he is going to be

951
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 4: a dad, that the woman who will be the mother

952
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 4: is eighteen weeks pregnant. He is beyond thrilled. Shawn is

953
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 4: thirty seven years old. He is quote is he's always

954
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 4: wanted to be a dad. He said, he's ecstatic that

955
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: she's going to be a great mother and everybody is

956
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 4: really excited. So again big headline of Bachelor Nation, Sean

957
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: Booth has announced on his podcast that he is going

958
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: to be a father.

959
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: Bachel Crawley expecting first baby be a surrogate with Ryan Dawkins.

960
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Maybe this brings them together, who knows, but this is

961
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: pretty big. Bachelor Baby is Sean Booth is going to

962
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: be a dad at thirty seven years old.

963
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation's Clear Crawley expecting first baby be a surrogate

964
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 3: with Ryan Dawkins.

965
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: We're so excited. I kind of felt this was coming.

966
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: Claire didn't really say anything when we were in Santa

967
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: Barbara with us. She didn't say anything, you know, verb

968
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: shouldn't say anything. But I had this feeling that there

969
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 2: was news like this coming. We were talking about baby

970
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 2: products and stuff like that, and I'm just so excited

971
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: to see it's for real, for real, it is happening.

972
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: They are they're expecting. We don't know if it's a

973
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: girl or a boy. Do in January, I think, And yeah,

974
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: the baby's being carried via surrogate. I'm so excited for them.

975
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: They're going to be the most amazing parents. Clara's like

976
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: the most maternal person that I can think of, and

977
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: I'm just really excited. They're doing it with the egg whisper,

978
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: the whole Sarahate process, and that's who Sarah Harron has

979
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: been working with on her fertility journey as well.

980
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: Super excited for the two of them.

981
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 4: We mentioned it last week, didn't really know what was

982
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 4: going on, but we have more clarity this week because

983
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 4: you look into it and we did.

984
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: And here is the update. Kim Kardashian tricks Chris Jenner

985
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: into calling Disney VP over fake the Bachelorette gig. It's

986
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 3: a prank. According to US Weekly.

987
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: Yes, it is a prank. So Kim just played a

988
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: joke on her mom, Chris Pretanny's she was going to

989
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: be the bachelorette on the new episode. They basically have

990
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: that tease that they show or she's like telling the

991
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: whole family. She goes, I have some very important info.

992
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: I talked to Rob Mills, but she they said that,

993
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: you know, Chris was not thrilled by the news. This

994
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 2: is not the right move for Kim, and she calls

995
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: the Chris Jenner calls Rob Mills and says that she's like,

996
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: I just need to wrap my head around something like

997
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: this because it's not really the space that I saw

998
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: Kim in. She does have four kids in a very

999
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: busy life. And then she goes, I watched the show.

1000
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: I love the show, but did I want my daughter

1001
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 2: on it? Oh? Hell no, It's funny because I mentioned

1002
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 2: this on Friday. I'm pretty sure she was for Chloe

1003
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: doing it a couple of years ago. And then the

1004
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: joke continues. He goes, we're working on all the scheduling now,

1005
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 2: we're like ninety percent there for Kim, but the budget

1006
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: is subject to negotiation. We'd probably need to work that

1007
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: out with you. That's Rob Mills responding, And eventually it

1008
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: gets revealed that it's all a big joke.

1009
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: So good, that's a good joke.

1010
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: I love that Chris Jenner was fully confused for a

1011
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 4: second and thinking that Kim Kardashian would actually be a

1012
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: bachelorette on you know, I bring the show back, just

1013
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 4: give it, you know, one of the world's biggest celebrities.

1014
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor. Then Kim Kardashian, We are back, Baby, we

1015
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: are back.

1016
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 3: Final, speaking of him back.

1017
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: Final big headline is Nick Vile surprises his mom by

1018
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 4: buying back family lake house thirty two years after losing it.

1019
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: I know he's been working on this for a while.

1020
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: I knew this was something he dreamed of. I didn't

1021
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 4: know it had happened. But it's a big deal. In

1022
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 4: congratulations to him for making this happen. It's a really

1023
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 4: cool gift.

1024
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me just read verbati what Neck says,

1025
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: after losing the house thirty two years ago, I finally

1026
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: bought it back into the family. I had recurring dreams

1027
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: my entire life since we lost the house in nineteen

1028
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: ninety about somehow the house being back in our family.

1029
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: I always woke up from this dream. I'm living a

1030
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: literal dream now, no more waking up from this one

1031
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: than He has the tattoo of the lake house that

1032
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: his father his grandfather built in nineteen sixty five. He

1033
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: was nine when they lost the house. He says that

1034
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: this place was always the version of heaven in his mind,

1035
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: and he just bought it back and he gave it

1036
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: to his mom, surprises mom with a letter letting her

1037
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: know that he bought the house back after thirty two years,

1038
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: and now he's going to share those memories with Natalie

1039
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: and their kids and all the other nine kids that

1040
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 2: his mom has and their families. This is like the

1041
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: most special thing ever. From on a personal note, yes,

1042
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: I've known that Nick's been trying to work to get

1043
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: this house for a while. I don't want to like

1044
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: throw info that I vaguely remember out there. I'm just

1045
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: going to let Nick tell his and he has on

1046
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: TikTok and Instagram. You can watch them on his podcast.

1047
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: It's really really special to him. I'm just like so stoked.

1048
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: It was cool because I texted him last week just

1049
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: randomly just being like hey, talking about you love you,

1050
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: miss you, what are you up to? And he goes,

1051
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm at the lake House and I go, what you

1052
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: got it? And he that was a couple of days

1053
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 2: before he announced to everybody that he had bought it back.

1054
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: It's really really exciting.

1055
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big deal.

1056
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: I mean he cares about it because he got a

1057
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: tattooed on his arm before you even owned it, so

1058
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 4: that's you know, or on his chest maybe you know that.

1059
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know. This is something special. So congrats

1060
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: to him and Natalie and the whole family making this happen.

1061
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: Well, this has been another episode of the Almost Famous podcast.

1062
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: We are always so thankful and so happy to be here.

1063
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: We will be back next week talking about the Bacheler right,

1064
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: talking about all the headlines, everything breaking down. We will

1065
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: be continuing to up to you on the upcoming Golden

1066
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 4: Bachelor and everything happening within bacher Nation.

1067
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: But until then, I've been then, I've been actually seeing

1068
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: Followed the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcasts on

1069
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,960
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