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Speaker 1: Welcome in. We'll drive into great episode three thirty two

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Speaker 1: on a Monday, doing a live show. So this week,

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Speaker 1: by the way, this is a great time and a

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Speaker 1: the subscriptions hopefully help you guys this week as well,

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Speaker 1: because we're gonna have an odds schedule because we're doing

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Speaker 1: the show today. Tomorrow, I am buying my house, and

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Speaker 1: then Wednesday I head to Indianapolis for the Indy five hundred.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the timing's crazy. I live in New York,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks are playing the Pacers I had to Indy

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Speaker 1: for and I'm gonna be in Indie for games one

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Speaker 1: and two, which are in New York, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna come back here and in games three and four,

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Speaker 1: which are in Indy, I will be in New York.

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Speaker 1: So at all, if the Pacers just had a better record,

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Speaker 1: I could potentially go to the first four games to

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Spinals. Instead, I'm gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: go to zero of them. But the point is, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure exactly when we're gonna be on the air

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Speaker 1: this week emergency shows, whatever it is. So the way

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Speaker 1: right into it, Demonse, So here is what missed the cut.

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Speaker 1: This was a story that missed the cut, and I

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Speaker 1: missed my radar entirely. This Bill Belichick spending five grand

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Speaker 1: on milk for Tom Brady has an Antonio Brown wrinkle.

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Speaker 1: I do not care lebron wins the shack and the

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Speaker 1: fool MVP. I missed that as well. And Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: is he happy in Chicago? The answer to that question

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Speaker 1: is I hope. So the bigger Caleb Williams question is this,

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Speaker 1: was he right about every single one of his concerns?

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Speaker 1: Turns out yeah, was he right about? Man? I wonder

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Speaker 1: what I'd look like if I was in Kevin O'Connell's

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Speaker 1: offense on that team. And the answer as well, Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold had fourteen wins and through for four thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: So probably pretty damn good Caleb Williams instincts through the roof.

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Speaker 1: That was my takeaway from that article. Caleb nailed everything.

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Speaker 1: He got everything right. Demon say you're laughing, showed me

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Speaker 1: the lie. As the kids say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's fair, but you know you're a rookie,

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Speaker 2: just go and play for whatever team they throw you on.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what he ended up doing. That's literally what

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Speaker 1: he ended up doing. But I'm just saying his instincts

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Speaker 1: were correct, all right, Game seven last night legacies made

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Speaker 1: in a Game seven except for a Game seven leg

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Speaker 1: last night, which was a game for about a quarter

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Okay, So he took care of business last

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Speaker 2: night against the Nuggets, backed him by thirty two points.

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Speaker 2: Denver was obviously dealing with injuries with MPG. With MPG,

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Speaker 2: they were now they were neutralizing Yo Kic. Do you

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Speaker 2: think that this has any implications with the MVP debate?

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Speaker 2: What is where as your head after this series?

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Speaker 1: Well, so listen, it doesn't have any implications for who

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Speaker 1: should have won it or whatever, because it's an obviously

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Speaker 1: regular season award, But it is a good time to

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Speaker 1: stop and take stock of what the two MVP candidates

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Speaker 1: did in this series. And so I want to start

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Speaker 1: on the thunderside, then we'll get to the joker side.

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Speaker 1: This was a sorry to be cliche, but a coming

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Speaker 1: of age moment for the Oklahoma City Thunder, and it's

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Speaker 1: one that I think they needed. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: would have been good for them to cruise through Round

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Speaker 1: two the way they cruised through Round one, because there

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Speaker 1: is going to be adversity at some point in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Now they have faced it, and they faced down the

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Speaker 1: best player in the world and blew them out in

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Speaker 1: a Game seven in their building. And there aren't many

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Speaker 1: places with a legitimate home court advantage left in this league,

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Speaker 1: but Oklahoma City might be one of them. The college

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Speaker 1: like atmosphere, how loud it gets, it reminds you a

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Speaker 1: bit of the Old Oracle where nobody you know won

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Speaker 1: playoff games there for five years that wasn't named Lebron

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Speaker 1: James and there is. So they needed a real test

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Speaker 1: and they got one in the form of the Denver Nuggets. Shae.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Shae was good in last year's Round

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Speaker 1: two when Luca and the MAVs beat him. It was

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Speaker 1: his co stars who were not good in that round,

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Speaker 1: and you were worried that was happening again this year. Shae,

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Speaker 1: his regular season numbers, he was thirty six and six

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Speaker 1: on fifty three thirty three splits. So Shae didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: he didn't raise his game to a new level, but

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Speaker 1: it didn't drop off. The worry was Jalen Williams, who

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Speaker 1: was bad in last year's Round two, was playing poorly

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Speaker 1: in this year's Round tw two. And then in the

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Speaker 1: that ended last night's game or yesterday afternoon's game, and

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Speaker 1: in the biggest quarter of their season up to that point,

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Speaker 1: the second quarter of Game seven, Jalen Williams showed up

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Speaker 1: was a game tour Game three, I don't remember of

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Speaker 1: this series, but overall in this series he had been terrible.

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Speaker 1: Despite the game, uh what was it? It was Game

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Speaker 1: three performance. He was still shooting like thirty two percent

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Speaker 1: from the series, less than twenty percent from three and

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Speaker 1: struggling massively. And then last night he has twenty four

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Speaker 1: in that second quarter and the game was never close

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Speaker 1: again and Now, if you're den if you're Oklahoma City,

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Speaker 1: you feel like you are more than prepared for a

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Speaker 1: little bit of adversity in round three against Minnesota, a

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Speaker 1: Minnesota team that I think is super live. Now, you

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Speaker 1: guys know, despite Demonds's scurless allegations of team hopping by me,

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Speaker 1: once my championship pick, the Lakers was eliminated were eliminated,

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Speaker 1: I said, I think Oklahoma City is going to win

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Speaker 1: the title. I have not strayed from that. I had

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Speaker 1: no choice but to change championship picks. My champion got

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Speaker 1: clopped in round one. So I still think Oklahoma City

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Speaker 1: going to present very different problems for Oklahoma City. To

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Speaker 1: the tune of that you are going from playing a

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Speaker 1: What Oklahoma City reminded everyone of yesterday is they have

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Speaker 1: the ability to go on a fifteen to two run

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Speaker 1: unlike any team in recent memory. Because they're fifteen to

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Speaker 1: two run is not predicated on getting hot from three.

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Speaker 1: Their fifteen to two run is predicated on getting hot defensively.

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Speaker 1: And just all just sending wave after wave of young

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Speaker 1: And if you guys remember the day after Thanksgiving, I

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Speaker 1: here and said, Man, Oklahoma City's ability to just go

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Speaker 1: being plus plus defenders is just a pitch no one

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Speaker 1: from Cruso, who was unbelievable, Cason Wallace and Aaron Wiggins,

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Speaker 1: You don't even play Isaiah Joe. You don't really even

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Speaker 1: have to play Jalen Williams. That's ten guys plus you're

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Speaker 1: starting five, obviously. And so I thought Shaye was outstanding yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I think Shae has now proven, over his relatively limited

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Speaker 1: playoff career, but still a playoff career, that he's not

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Speaker 1: the dreaded playoff dropper, which wasn't. Anytime a guy makes

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Speaker 1: so much money off the free throw line, you worry

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Speaker 1: is that you is he going to have the Harden

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Speaker 1: embiid playoff drop and in now back to back postseasons

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 3: So he's still getting pretty good whistles. Though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say the whistle didn't really

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Speaker 2: taper off like we finally felt it would in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's been getting pretty consistent whistless.

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Speaker 1: One hundred correct. In fact, he is. In the regular season,

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Speaker 1: he averaged eight point eight free throw attempts per game

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Speaker 1: in thirty four minutes per game. In the postseason, he's

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Speaker 1: averaging eight point seven free throw attempts per game in

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Speaker 1: maybe getting, you know, on a per minute basis, like

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Speaker 1: five percent less calls. But he's still it's it has

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Speaker 1: not been that. Oh he hasn't been able to get

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Speaker 1: I guess three pockets of OKAC skepticism. The first one was,

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Speaker 1: is Shay gonna get the same whistle he has thus

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Speaker 1: far for the most part. The second one was are

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Speaker 1: the co stars going to be co stars? That one

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Speaker 1: looked like it could cost them this series, and then

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Speaker 1: it didn't, and now you've got to feel like Jalen

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Speaker 1: Williams is going to go into the next round super

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Speaker 1: confident and Chet Listen, I don't think Chet is ready

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Speaker 2: To be uh but to be Jalen Williams. Though, say

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Speaker 2: it again, say he's been more consistent than Jayalen Williams.

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Speaker 1: He's been more consistent, but his peaks haven't been to Like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think Chet's ready to be the second

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Speaker 1: option on a champion. Like, You're totally right about his consistency.

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Speaker 1: You can basically pencil him in for thirteen to nine

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Speaker 1: foreen and ten every night, but we're now ten playoff

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Speaker 1: games in. He doesn't have a twenty five point game

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Speaker 1: in this series. He didn't have a twenty point game.

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Speaker 1: So I just don't think checks ready to ascend past

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Speaker 1: Jalen Williams as the number two. But he's been fine

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Speaker 1: fine as the number three, and his rim production is legitimate.

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Speaker 1: So that was the second concern, And the third concern

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Speaker 1: don't know analysis question, however you want to put it

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Speaker 1: how valuable was the depth going to be when rotations

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Speaker 1: get shortened, And the answer is it was super valuable

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Speaker 1: because you aside from the overtime game, demanse Shane never

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Speaker 1: played forty plus minutes. He never like they were able

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Speaker 1: to give Shay real rest. And you saw it, Listen,

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Speaker 1: Denver was gonna lose that game even without this happening.

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Speaker 1: But you saw yesterday when Denver tried to give jokicch

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Speaker 1: a break, it was an eight to zero run in

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Speaker 1: forty five seconds. It was just like all the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: years with Lebron, where you try to steal him minutes

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Speaker 1: beginning of the second, and whatever lead you built up

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Speaker 1: It is still beyond me why no team has coached

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Speaker 1: their no team that is so reliant, and we haven't

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Speaker 1: seen anybody as relying on one player the way the

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Speaker 1: Nuggets are on Joker since Cleveland era Lebron. It is

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Speaker 1: baffling why the strategy is not while our guy is

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Speaker 1: on the bench, we want to play as slow as possible.

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Speaker 1: That way, there are we are minimizing the number of

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Speaker 1: possessions that occur, while our guys out Denver didn't do

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Speaker 1: that yesterday. They give up a basket race down court,

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Speaker 1: Russ throws it away, give up another basket race down court,

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Speaker 1: Russ misses a shot. All of a sudden, it's a

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Speaker 1: six to zero run. We're not even at the eleven

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Speaker 1: minute mark of the second quarter. So listen, credit to OKC.

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Speaker 1: It would have been really cool if the NBA had

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Speaker 1: taken my advice and given Shay his MVP award before

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Speaker 1: that game. It would have added a little more Jenna

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Speaker 1: Sae quad to it. They didn't do that. Instead, I

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Speaker 1: would imagine he's gonna get his MVP award before Game

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Speaker 1: two of the Conference finals. And you bet your ass

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Speaker 1: Now back to what I was saying about the opportunity

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Speaker 1: Then? How do we do Jokers resume of three two

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Speaker 2: Sorry to Nuggets fans if this is blasphemous or anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the contract situation is looking like either,

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: No life better than being the twelfth to twenty fifth

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Speaker 1: That is four years, two hundred and seven million dollars.

431
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: I does he have value? Absolutely does. Does he have

432
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, massive value given the contract, I'm not sure.

433
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: And also that Jokich Murray pick and roll is still

434
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: the thing that works better than anything else they do.

435
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: So I I just they need those young guys to

436
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: take a leap. They need a lot of stuff. And

437
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: it does feel Demon's like while we were all, you know,

438
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: hand up for me at least, but it wasn't just

439
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: me holding on to two eras ago, the Lebron Steph

440
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: Durant Kawhi era. Even going into this postseason after that

441
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Game two by Kawhi, people like the Clippers can win

442
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: the championship. You know, I thought the Lakers are gonna

443
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: win the championship the Warriors after beating the Rockets. A

444
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: lot of people playoff Jimmy's Jimmy's in that group as well,

445
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Harden holding on to that era, and now everyone

446
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of accepting the only way for that era to

447
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: sustain is by someone from another era, like Luca joining

448
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: Lebron or Yannis joining staff or whatever it is. In

449
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: the midst of all that, I think there now has

450
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: to be a real consideration. Did the Joker Yannis Embiid

451
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: era also close as far as Championship Windows Championship, Like

452
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Speaker 1: is it now Shay and Aunt and Brunson, and like,

453
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: I know those are the guys left, but those are

454
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Speaker 1: also the teams that you feel like are positioned, like

455
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: right now for Embiid, Yannis and Joker, the three well,

456
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: the last three MVPs before Shay wins his and two

457
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: of the three best players in the world. Can any

458
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: of those three guys realistically think that in what's left

459
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: of their prime, say it three years for each of them,

460
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: they can win a championship without changing teams. I don't

461
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: think so, right.

462
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you got to change teams and

463
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: change teams, right right?

464
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: But so is Embiid's contracts underwater? Joker is Meanwhile, somebody

465
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: in the Blue Duck studios because Demonsi's at home today,

466
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: check on Daniel. Daniel might be committing sepuku right now,

467
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: like he the we're talking about like the Joker era ending.

468
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know how this poor like.

469
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: It's the problem though, unfortunately, but those other guys need yeah.

470
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but it's just it's really hard or just.

471
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Like the best player on the team, like can't you

472
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: like force ownership's hand, like, you know, get some guys

473
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: around me.

474
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: It man, this is Johannis did it. Jannis did it,

475
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: and now jiannest might force them to move him. I

476
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: just I so let me try to put a pin

477
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Speaker 1: in or you know, put an exclamation point on the

478
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Joker conversation. I he is going to be so I

479
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: you know, you guys know how much I love these

480
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: player ranking stuff. I've done the top twelve a bunch again.

481
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: If you're new to the show, Lebron Kream, Michael Magic, Russell,

482
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Speaker 1: Wilt uh Duncan, Kobe bird A, Keem Shack Steph, there's

483
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: your twelve. And in fact, I even had a pretty

484
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: cool graphic about it about the you know, how how

485
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: high can Joker go? And then right outside that top

486
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: twelve is the group Jokers in with Doctor j and Moses,

487
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of old timers Elgin Oscar West and then

488
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: Giannis and Durant all you know what I mean. And

489
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: that wasn't in order, that was just the group. It

490
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: is going to be I think very difficult, not even

491
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: very difficult. I'll go ahead and say it. I think

492
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: it is going to be impos possible for Joker to

493
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: crack that top twelve without either a bunch of super

494
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: deep playoff runs and by that I mean like four

495
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: years where you're in the final slash conference finals every year,

496
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: or with you know, without winning a championship or won

497
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: more championship. Like, I just think he's got a hard

498
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: ceiling because when you look at those guys in the

499
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: top twelve. Again, I'm not a count the rings guy,

500
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: but the rings have to matter. All of them have

501
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: two and the only guys with just two are a team,

502
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: the greatest defensive player maybe ever in certainly the last

503
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: fifty years, and Wilt the guy who averaged fifty in

504
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: a game for a season. Everyone else is three plus

505
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: and so it wouldn't. So that's the that's the missed opportunity.

506
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: If you had a bet right now, it sounds like,

507
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: would you take Yok winning another ring in his career?

508
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: Sounds like you're pretty iffy about it.

509
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I just be for you to

510
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: take that what odds? Oh you gave me, uh two

511
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: to one? Do I think he has a one in

512
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: three chance? Yeah?

513
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: You know what?

514
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: But like even money, I would say no, I just

515
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: the now he he just I just think he's say

516
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: it again.

517
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 3: This shocks me with like how high you're put him?

518
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: I think there's no way yo Kich goes the rest

519
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: of his career that one in another ring.

520
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know where he gets that. Denver does

521
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: tuh to not have Because here's the problem. Houston is coming,

522
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: Houston's you know, they were the two seeds. Oklahoma City

523
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: is loaded for Bear Minnesota. Back to back conference finals

524
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: for Minnesota. You know, like Anthony Edwards now in like

525
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: it's insane to say, but it's true. He has as

526
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: many conference finals appearances as Joker two like, so they

527
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: he just joke like, So there's just I think it

528
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: might make more sense if you look at it more

529
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: like the window was twenty one to last season like that,

530
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: and you have the year, you know, Jamal Tears' acl

531
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: you or maybe nineteen to last season, whatever it would

532
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: have been, Jamal misses a postseason or two you win

533
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: a championship. Last year is the how the hell did

534
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: that happen to us? In game seven? And then this

535
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: year if fire your coach and you end up where

536
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: you're at, all right, let's quickly go to the Western

537
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: Conference Finals and then we'll do the East as well,

538
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: and then I do need to talk about Brock Purty

539
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: getting paid, and I need to talk about once again,

540
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: demons ir. It just seems like it's not possible to

541
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: have a sane WNBA conversation. It doesn't seem like it's possible.

542
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: It just it doesn't seem like it's possible. We'll get

543
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: to all that before the show's over. But let's get

544
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: to the conference finals.

545
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: So yeah, the thunder are now going to face off

546
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: against the Timberwolves, who have been waiting for them after

547
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: their Game seven, Minnesota's obviously been waiting. Okay, see, he's

548
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: thrown right in the fire. I think their games tomorrow,

549
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: But okay, see's still heavy favorites. Why would Vegas have

550
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: them as favorites.

551
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: Well, I mean because they've They've been the best team

552
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: all year. Now they are huge favorites, yo, like minus

553
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: three seventy five for the series and minus seven and

554
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: a half or something for Game one. What I would

555
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: say is, you would think the layoff would be good

556
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: for Minnesota. It was not in that Warriors series Game

557
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 1: one against the Warriors, they look terrible, you know, after

558
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: that long layoff. I my pick would be Okay, see. However,

559
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: I I think minus three seventy five is too big

560
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: of a favorite. I also think that for Minnesota to

561
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 1: have a realistic shot at this, I think that they

562
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: do need to do what Denver did in Round two,

563
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: which gave them a realistic shots. They forced the game seven,

564
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: which is I think they need to steal game one.

565
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: I think they need to take advantage of the fact

566
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: that Okac is maybe a little you know, relieved, plus

567
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: maybe be a little tired, and that they're rested, and

568
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: I think they need to come out and play great

569
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: in game one. I think it's gonna be too hard

570
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: for them to beat Okay See four out of six

571
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: with one of those being a Game seven on the road.

572
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: So I think that Minnesota's got to steal game one.

573
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: Jayleen Williams, I feel like that should be the game plan.

574
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: Lock him up obviously, you know SGA is gonna get buckets,

575
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Jayla Williams coming off the warm game, don't want him

576
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: it continue.

577
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: So you so you would deploy, So that'll be interesting,

578
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: do you do they deploy Jaden McDaniels on Jalen Williams

579
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: neutralizer and just tell aunt hey man Shay is Shay's

580
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: been talking about you just trying to get Aunt fired up.

581
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: And also the other thing that works in Minnesota's favor

582
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: is I gotta tell you I right now, I can

583
00:38:54,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: already see it like it's a prophecy, and I can

584
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: guarantee we are going to see this image. This is

585
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: why it's good to watch on YouTube if you can.

586
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna be Chet Holmgren for a second.

587
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna see this early and maybe often doubled over

588
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: grabbing his sternum because Julius Randall has dropped his shoulder

589
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: into Chet's chest and we're gonna We're gonna ask in

590
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: real time like does he need to be metavacked somewhere?

591
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: Like is like serious? No, seriously, we need to stop

592
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: the game. Is did his did his chest cavity just collapse?

593
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough one man. And so like

594
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Julius is Julius did that to Lebron, he did that

595
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: to Draymond, and now he's gonna have Chet Holmgren and

596
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: so like that is a real matchup that I'm interested in.

597
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: But I hope that series is awesome, and I'm also

598
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: even the I picked Okay, see, I'm like an adopted

599
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna call me flip flopping. So this is what

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00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: I was. I told the story about our friend Nick

601
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: from sugar Hill Creamery who's been watching all the Timberwolves

602
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: games at the house, and that he's, you know, he

603
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: has a real rooting interest, and so I like, I

604
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: am rooting for me personally for a Nicks Timberwolves NBA

605
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Finals because I want to be able to go to games,

606
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: and I I think if that happens, then I'm kind

607
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: of happy with either. Winter. I don't really like, okayc

608
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609
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Speaker 1: not a huge chet I'm sorry, not a huge shave fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't like.

611
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Speaker 2: I don't find their whole scheme little thing.

612
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Speaker 3: Yeah I find it.

613
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a huge fan, but I gotta give

614
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Speaker 1: him respect where it's due. I don't like, No, it's

615
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Speaker 1: co slash b ball. All right, demonse, let's go to

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Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference and your Celtics getting what's the term

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Speaker 1: dog walked in a game six?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead? Uh? Not fair. I mean we didn't have

653
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Speaker 3: our best player, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was obviously a little confident that we're

655
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Speaker 2: gonna win that game and that's h So that how

656
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: it went. It's time to go home. Tatum was out.

657
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Speaker 2: We got dogged in the game six. Like you said,

658
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Speaker 2: do you think that we should blow this team up

659
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Speaker 2: for the money or do you think that we showed

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Speaker 2: enough to keep the band together, try to run it

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Speaker 2: back next year.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I always, I certainly don't think they I don't

663
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Speaker 1: think they should blow it up. They could have won

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Speaker 1: the championship if things break a little differently like I, So,

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Speaker 1: I can hold both of these thoughts in my head.

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00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: I do think if you had a healthy Jason Tatum

667
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: and the Knicks series was a best of twenty one

668
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: first to eleven, you beat them in that series every

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Speaker 1: time it's played, like you know, I mean, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: My point is is, I do think Boston, over a

671
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: large enough sample, would have beaten the Knicks. I thought

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Speaker 1: where I thought people blew the analysis of it was

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00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: because games one and two were you know, one point

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Speaker 1: in overtime games, despite the Celtic shooting twenty five from three.

675
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: What I where I thought people screwed up their analysis

676
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: was is that it they acted as if it mattered

677
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Speaker 1: that ah, more often than not, the Celtics will at

678
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Speaker 1: least split those two, if not win them both. It

679
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: didn't matter. It's a race to four and it's too nothing.

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00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: And so to me, I thought the series ended then

681
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Speaker 1: when the Knicks were up two to zero in Boston,

682
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: and I think the series even if Jason Tatum is healthy,

683
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: and I think you might agree, the Knicks still win

684
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: because the Knick. If you agree with this opinion, the

685
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: Knicks were winning Game four even if Tatum doesn't suffer

686
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Speaker 1: that horrific injury. Then I just think it was unrealistic

687
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Speaker 1: to say the Celtics were gonna win three straight. And

688
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: I think you saw that in what happened in Game six,

689
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Speaker 1: not the blowout. Here's the part I think people are

690
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: missing and gets lost because it was a blowout. The

691
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Celtics were relying too much on old guys who showed

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Speaker 1: you all postseason that they were not able to be

693
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Speaker 1: good in consecutive games unless they had multiple days off,

694
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Speaker 1: and that's Horford and that's Drew Holiday, and that you

695
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: weren't gonna get those days off, and so you had

696
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Speaker 1: a bunch of time between Game four and five. Those

697
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: guys were awesome in Game five, and then Drew was

698
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Speaker 1: one for eight in Game six and Horford was four

699
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Speaker 1: for seven, which is fine, like they so, so I

700
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Speaker 1: think the Knicks were better in this series and that's

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Speaker 1: what mattered. Now, would I blow it up? No? Do

702
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: I recognize the Celtics' financial realities are such that they

703
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Speaker 1: are going to have to make some significant changes. And

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Speaker 1: the answer to that question is yes. To me, it's

705
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Speaker 1: pretty obvious. Here are the changes I would make if

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Speaker 1: I were Boston because they are in such a devastating

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Speaker 1: salary position. I would, And I am now opening the

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00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: Celtics cap table. Al Horford is a free agent. You

709
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Speaker 1: just have to I think he retires. Yeah, you just

710
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Speaker 1: have to let him walk. So that's gone. You then

711
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: have these big salaries Jalen Brown fifty three, Tatum fifty four,

712
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Drew thirty two, Chris STAPs thirty, Derek White twenty eight,

713
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Speaker 1: and then a sneaky one which is Sam Houser ten million. Okay,

714
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Speaker 1: I would if I were them. You let Horford walk,

715
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Speaker 1: and you trade Drew Holliday then and you keep together Tatum, Brown, White,

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Speaker 1: and you hope that Chris STAPs next year is healthy.

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Speaker 1: And now here's the other piece of the Christaps thing,

718
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Speaker 1: because I wouldn't trade him before the year. If there

719
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Speaker 1: is real hope that Tatum could be back for next

720
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Speaker 1: year's playoffs, I think that is unrealistic. However, it does

721
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Speaker 1: seem like that because they did the surgery like within

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Speaker 1: hours of the injury that that could really, you know,

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Speaker 1: Curb shave some time off the recovery at next year's

724
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Speaker 1: trade deadline. Because Christaps is an expiring contract, I would,

725
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: I would and see does it make sense to offload

726
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: him or to keep him if we think he's gonna

727
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: walk in the offseason either way depending on is Tatum

728
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Speaker 1: gonna be back for this playoff run, but the next

729
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Speaker 1: time Tatum's healthy, I would definitively want Tatum, Brown, and

730
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Speaker 1: Derek White together. The reason I brought up Sam Hauser

731
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Speaker 1: is I read something that because of like the repeater

732
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Speaker 1: tax and the aprons and all this shit, Sam Houser's

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars demonse costs the Celtics sixty two million

734
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Speaker 1: dollars because it's of the different like three xing the

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Speaker 1: penalties for if you're over this certain lines. So it

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Speaker 1: doesn't that money doesn't go to Sam, it goes to

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Speaker 1: the league. So he's a fine player.

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Speaker 3: On a nice count salary basically, right, Well not.

739
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Speaker 1: So it's on anyone's salary. The point I'm making is

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Speaker 1: if you if you stack the salaries up and like

741
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Speaker 1: and you're like, hey, here's our total salary, what would

742
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Speaker 1: happen to our luxury tax bill. If we traded the

743
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars Sam Hauser contract, that one move, if

744
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Speaker 1: they had everyone else still there, would save them the

745
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: ten million in salary and fifty two million in penalties.

746
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: Now obviously that means trading Drew Holiday saves you even more.

747
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Speaker 1: But that's that. That was just an example of what

748
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Speaker 1: the financial realities are for a team that I think

749
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Speaker 1: next year is not really competing. But I do think

750
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Speaker 1: Tatum Brown, Derek White, there's proof of concept when I

751
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Speaker 1: say competing, Like I think they'll still be good.

752
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: I just don't think they're not a championship level next year.

753
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Speaker 1: Right and so, and this was the point I made

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Speaker 1: going into Game six. If you treated Chris STAPs as

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Speaker 1: if he were out, which I was. If you had

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Speaker 1: a team going into a year and you said our

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00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: best players Jalen Brown, our second best players Derek White,

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Speaker 1: Our third, fourth fifth guys are Drew Holliday, Al Horford,

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Speaker 1: Peyton Pritchard, you would put that team in the same

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Speaker 1: tier you put the regular Detroit Pistons, like, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: a good team, Like you know what I mean, they

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Speaker 1: should make the playoffs, Like Jalen his caid in that situation,

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Speaker 1: you know, you go on down like, but you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: look at them as a championship contender, and that's what

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Speaker 1: the Celtics were by the end of that series. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I like it all. I love

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Speaker 3: getting rid of Drew.

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Speaker 2: I love both those guys, Drew and Al Horford. But

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Speaker 2: it is it's in honestly not Drew Drew.

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Speaker 3: I honestly, if you will have the test things out

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Speaker 3: a little further, but that makes sense to me.

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Speaker 1: It just if you if you feel like, here's the

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Speaker 1: point I would make on Drew, if you if you're

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Speaker 1: if the feeling is of your guys making thirty ish

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Speaker 1: or way more Chris STAPs, Derek White, Drew Holliday, Tatum Brown.

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Speaker 1: That Derek White is too important and younger and all

778
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Speaker 1: of that. Tatum Brown untouchable. And it's a decision between

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Speaker 1: Chris STAPs and Drew. The the easy answer is will

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Speaker 1: move Chris STAPs, He's but if you want to try

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Speaker 1: to get real draft compensation back because you are trying

782
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Speaker 1: to you know, get you know, more young cheap players,

783
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Speaker 1: Drew has way more trade value, right that Does that

784
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Speaker 1: make sense? Since that, so I those, but I don't

785
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Speaker 1: think you're trading Jalen Brown. You're obviously not trading Jason Tatum,

786
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Speaker 1: and I would be shocked if you're trading Derek White.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You have a follow up about the playoff schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you were saying there weren't enough games in

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Speaker 2: between the between the Celtics games. You know, Drew Albert

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Speaker 2: enough days, enough days. Yeah, so Drew and Alhober can

792
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Speaker 2: keep up. Gordon also said there needs to be more

793
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Speaker 2: time in between playoff games. Do you think the NBA

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Speaker 2: should change the playoff schedule?

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Speaker 1: So it's really weird. Round one there's plenty of time

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Speaker 1: between games and the finals, obviously, there's plenty of time

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Speaker 1: between games. Rounds two and three are damn races just

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Speaker 1: and like the conference finals for both series every other day,

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Speaker 1: so every night we have a game, because every series

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Speaker 1: is every other day. I think the obvious thing they

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Speaker 1: should do is make Round one less time between games

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Speaker 1: in round one and add a few off days in

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Speaker 1: rounds two and three. Now it's tough obviously when series

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Speaker 1: go long, like you would have more time, if you know,

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Speaker 1: if the Western Arms Finals didn't go seven games. I

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Speaker 1: understand that, and I don't think you want to push

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Speaker 1: the finals, you know, and you definitely don't want to

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Speaker 1: push the finals into July. But they also give guys,

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Speaker 1: here's the other thing that one of the reasons for

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Speaker 1: this is the play in. Like everybody gets that week

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Speaker 1: off during the play in. Would those would those days

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Speaker 1: be better served if they were you know, in between,

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Speaker 1: in between or elsewhere? Maybe? And so but certainly with

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Speaker 1: the schedule as it is, too much time, but in

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Speaker 1: round one, not not enough time in rounds two and three,

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Speaker 1: Daniel asks, why can't it go into July? Because people

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Speaker 1: don't watch TV in July and August. It's just why

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Speaker 1: It's just a ratings thing, like people are vacation and

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Speaker 1: they saw it, and Daniels saying, because, well, no, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think the people have done the research on it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe people people are used to the NBA Finals being

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Speaker 1: in June, and I think they hated it when because

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Speaker 1: of COVID and then different schedules of seasons, we had

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Speaker 1: to move stuff. All right, let's do Eastern Conference then

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Speaker 1: some other stuff.

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Speaker 2: We've got to throw back in the Eastern Conference finals

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Speaker 2: with the Knicks and the Pacers, Game one is going

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Speaker 2: down in the garden and the Knicks are favored.

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Speaker 3: In the series on DraftKings. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: was supposed to say that, But are we confident or.

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Speaker 2: Are fans a little too confident in their Knicks and

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Speaker 2: overlooking the feisty Pacers team?

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Speaker 1: Well, how confident are fans?

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Speaker 3: You are?

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Speaker 1: I'm picking the Nicks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you're picking the Nicks that I'm it's

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Speaker 3: going to be that light.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think it's going to be light either.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be light. But I

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Speaker 1: think the Knicks are better, all right. I think that

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Speaker 1: there's going to be real. Now, this is you know,

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Speaker 1: T and t's final series, and it's Reggie Miller on

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Speaker 1: the call for Nicks Pacers. So that is going to

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Speaker 1: be unbearable watch the game if you're rooting for the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: and I will be rooting for the Knicks, and the listen,

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Speaker 1: the Pacers are tough, and the Pacers are good, and

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Speaker 1: and the Halliburton thing is, it's Halliburton. Everybody cares that.

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Speaker 1: That stupid NBA player poll, which, to be clear, ninety

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Speaker 1: players responded. He won it with eighteen percent of the vote,

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Speaker 1: So it means like fifteen guys called him the most overrated.

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Speaker 1: What that to me is more indicative of people just

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Speaker 1: don't like him. I don't think he's very popular amongst

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Speaker 1: his colleagues. I do think he's I think people respect

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00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: his game to a degree. He's really good. They've got

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Speaker 1: two guys who will fight in nim Hard and Matherin.

856
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: Siakam's tough, Miles Turner's tough, McConnell's of pain in the ass.

857
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: That's a good team. But I think the Knicks has

858
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: now seven they really trust and they're healthy. I think

859
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: they have their starting five. I gotta tell you, I

860
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: have been impressed by the Duce McBride minutes, and Mitchell

861
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: Robinson's really good, and so I also think Mitch, if

862
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: there was ever a player who has enough this is

863
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna be I should have. This is my best take

864
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: of the day. God dog it. I'm gonna say it

865
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: on TV too. Don't clip this until later. I don't know.

866
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: You don't even have to clip this. This won't do

867
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: well on social media, but this is true. If there's

868
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: ever a player demonse who has enough tough guy equity

869
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: and is beloved almost overly beloved given his contribution by

870
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: his home fans that they could get away with it.

871
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: Mitch is the guy who should go underhand free throws.

872
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: He's the guy like nobody's gonna say like like like

873
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: he his free throws that were so devastating at times

874
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: and his fear of because his fear of shooting the

875
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: free throws has now meant past the size to something

876
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Do you know what I'm gonna say here?

877
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're gonna say here.

878
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: But it's interesting following the narrative around his free throws,

879
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: But what are you about to say here?

880
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: It's not just that they take him off the court

881
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: if the other team's going to the hack of strategy.

882
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: Watch Mitch Robinson the last few games. When he gets

883
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: offensive rebounds, he doesn't try to go up and score.

884
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: He turns his back to pass because he knows they're

885
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: gonna faul him, and so like he there were a

886
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: couple instances where it felt like he could have gotten

887
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 1: a put back dunk, but his instant reaction was turn

888
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: around and kick it out and so go ahead.

889
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: I see the video of this guy going around playing

890
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: like pick up basketball and doing like turnaround jumpers that

891
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: he's like flowing with the dribbles in the hand handling

892
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: all that. It's I'm very confused on how he like

893
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: it shot.

894
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: What's happened to his free throw?

895
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: It has to be mental. Oh but here's the man.

896
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: Hold on just the I'm back. Don't worry, I'm back.

897
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: I asked the guys before the show if we've had

898
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: any tech issues. They said no, And now we've had

899
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: two outright freezes today. The first one, I think was

900
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: brought on by the fact that I the internet in

901
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: YouTube was just dismayed by the fact that I could

902
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: not say the term hamstring strain. And they were like,

903
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: get this guy off the air. Here's another free throw thing.

904
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: I've never understood why nobody like shoots it like everyone

905
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: refuses to shoot it like a jumper. I get why

906
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: good free throw shooters don't. And you might be like, well,

907
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: you can't step over the line. You could step back,

908
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: you can you can stand anywhere you want in the

909
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: semi circle like and it does feel like some of

910
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: these guys who are brutal from the line, if it

911
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: was just like a seventeen foot pull up like that,

912
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: they would be better. Like yeah and so, and that

913
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't be you know, but I think Mitch can go

914
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: granny style. I think he can.

915
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 3: I think it would be sad.

916
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: There you go. It's bigger than basketball. So ask me, uh,

917
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 1: the Chalo May question before we move on.

918
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 3: It's early. What is Timothy chalomey on pace to be

919
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame Knicks.

920
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: Fans not phony like you got the tims on. But

921
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: it's also he's got he's got receipts. So I'm sure

922
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm not the only person who, up until eighteen months ago,

923
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: thought this kid was I thought he was foreign, like,

924
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I thought he was French or something because of the Yeah,

925
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: I thought he had to be from somewhere in Europe.

926
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's this amazing actor that you know,

927
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: women love, and he has two ease and an accent

928
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: mark in his first name and his last name is

929
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: Chala May. But this kid's from New York, and I

930
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: mean his parents just kind of fried him on the

931
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: spelling of his first name, like timothyy like it like

932
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: and Challo May. There's nothing to do about. But it

933
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: just so, I didn't even know up until relatively recently

934
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: that he was American. But then we also find out

935
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: not only is the American, he is hang out outside

936
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: the garden hoping to meet Landry Field's American. And and

937
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: you know when an Amuri Stottameyer signed basketball on Twitter,

938
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: American like he is a true die. And I gotta

939
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: tell you then, Nick and I am friends is way

940
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: too strong to put it. I'd love to be friends

941
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: with this person, but I'm not at the moment. But

942
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: I would uh friendly for sure with Spike Lee and

943
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: I adore Spike. I will tell you Spike showing up

944
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: at the met Gala and Timmy Shows going to the

945
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: Knicks game that night, that's a big pecking order thing.

946
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 1: And so he's not a Johnny cum Lately Nick fan.

947
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: And also like him bringing his gorgeous girlfriend with him,

948
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: making her sit, you know, at a front row root

949
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: for the nixt girlfriend.

950
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 3: I thought he's like Caitlyn Jenner or Kendall Jenner or

951
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 3: something like that.

952
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: He's with one of the gin That's yeah, that's what

953
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

954
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: This is his girlfriend. I know it was his girlfriend.

955
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 3: I thought those were just his homies, kyl.

956
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: He's no, he and Kylie are like real serious.

957
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought they were just all boys or boys

958
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: and girls.

959
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no. He and Kylie have been together

960
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: for quite some time. I think Patrick's but yeah, I

961
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean he's living the life and so

962
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: and is a true diehard. So I think that's sick.

963
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think. And he like is gonna awesome.

964
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: He's He's just.

965
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: Gonna be a fixture of the like courtside seats and

966
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: the broadcast all that. It's great.

967
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 3: All right.

968
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: So and the Knicks that series starts Wednesday, right, it

969
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: starts Wednesday. I am just beside myself. That's too strong. Uh.

970
01:04:54,280 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: The latest w NBA controversy is just evidence demons that

971
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: we are not yet ready societally to have this rivalry exist,

972
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know that we ever will be. So

973
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: here's the thing that I shouldn't have to say, but

974
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: I think, because it goes without saying ball say it anyway. Obviously,

975
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: if fans are chanting anything racist or making racist animal

976
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: sounds anything like that, that is abhorrent, deplorable, and those

977
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: people should be banned for life. If you didn't catch up,

978
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: let me, let me. People might be like, the hell

979
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: are we talking about? So here's the deal. Caitlin Clark's

980
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: Indiana Fever played Angel Reese's Chicago Sky. Caitlyn had triple double,

981
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: Angel had a bunch of rebounds and a bunch of mislayups,

982
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: and the Fever one by thirty. During the game, Angel

983
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: committed a hard I'm sorry, Caitlin committed a hard foul

984
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: on Angel that was called a flagrant. To me that

985
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: was borderline, but whatever, it was a smart, hard foul.

986
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: And then Angel got pissed. Is some professional or semi

987
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: professional lip readers you know, think she's you know, said

988
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: she was effing crazy or something. There were there were

989
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, dueling technicals, right, do we think we have

990
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: this all correct? Just some random person on Twitter who

991
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: we have no idea if they were even at the game.

992
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: Was like the crowd making monkey noises at Angel Reese

993
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: is you know, way out of line. Obviously that'd be

994
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: way out of line. The thing is the game was

995
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: on tv I there seems to be no evidence of

996
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: this whatsoever that this happened. There is a clip when

997
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: Angel misses a free throw of what sounds like a

998
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: dolphin noise. Now, I because it's twenty twenty five and

999
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: everything sucks, have learned there is some streamer who laughs

1000
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: sounds like a dolphin, and now idiot gen zers like

1001
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: laugh like him, do what demons can you kill us

1002
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: in on this?

1003
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 3: His name's Fly.

1004
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: I think they're talking about a fight like a popular

1005
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: two K that's right, t K two K YouTuber. I

1006
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: can see a dolphin noise sounding pretty close to monky

1007
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: noise though.

1008
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: I so I agree with that. I agree with that,

1009
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: I agree with that entirely. That may but again, I

1010
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: need more than one person's tweet before I'm going to

1011
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: and let me say this as well, before we get

1012
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: to what I actually want to talk about here. Some

1013
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: of the alleged Caitlin Clark fans and I said this

1014
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: last year, we had really you can just check our archives.

1015
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: We had real smart, I think, conversations on this. Some

1016
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: of the Allegedkaitlyn Clark clans are not Caitlin Clark fans.

1017
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: They are just racists. Some of them. They just like

1018
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: that they think this white girl is humbling these black

1019
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 1: girls that definitely, unequivocally clearly exists. The thing is, it

1020
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: mostly exists online. It to my experience, does not seem

1021
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: to exist that much in person at the Games. And

1022
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: now again the WNBA needs to be proactive about making

1023
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: sure that doesn't, you know, invade the actual arenas. There's

1024
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: nothing you do about the online stuff as sadly it's

1025
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 1: the world in which we live. Those people are pieces

1026
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: of shit, and now I think everybody knows it. But

1027
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: then the race stuff then gets even more complicated because

1028
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: then there are fans of Angel who I don't even

1029
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: know if they're fans of Angel, but there feels like

1030
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: there is a like a solidarity of like no, like

1031
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: there are shitty people on you attacking these black WNBA players.

1032
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: So we then need to act like Caitlin Clark isn't

1033
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: this super nova of the talent, And the whole thing

1034
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: just sucks because idiots get involved, and the WNBA commissioner,

1035
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: who I don't know that Kathy Ingelbert's a wartime consuliari

1036
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: releasing a statement today like we're investigating this, like I'm

1037
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: not sure I maybe would have investigated it. And then

1038
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: if there was any evidence whatsoever that this happened, then

1039
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: I release a statement like to me, your statement validates

1040
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: the allegation when I have seen no evidence that this happened. Okay,

1041
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: now there's all that here's the thing I want to

1042
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: talk about. People are gonna be mad, don't care, Demanse.

1043
01:09:55,120 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: Angel Reason needs to be better. Yeah, at basketball. I'm

1044
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: talking about as a person. I'm not talking about as

1045
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: a podcaster. I'm not talking about it as at the

1046
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 1: met Gala. She needs to be a better player if

1047
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: we want this rivalry to be able to have some

1048
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:16,759
Speaker 1: staying power. Like she had a very very busy offseason. Again,

1049
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: we are we are one game in, but at this moment,

1050
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,600
Speaker 1: it does not seem like the off season involved a

1051
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 1: lot of Mike and drills of left handed layups. And

1052
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:37,839
Speaker 1: she is right now, Angel Reese. I'm I'm sorry, right now,

1053
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: she is a wildly famous rebounder.

1054
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: It's like a.

1055
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody had the funniest tweet on this. I

1056
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: think it was Miles Brown who tweeted it was the

1057
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark Angel Reese rivalry is like if Kobe had

1058
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: a rivalry with Marcin Gortat. And I just can't get

1059
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: that out of my head, Like, I mean, this is

1060
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: the there Listen, I don't think Caitlyn is the best

1061
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,520
Speaker 1: player in the league. To be clear, that's still Asia

1062
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: Wilson until proven otherwise. I think she will one day

1063
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: be the best player in the league. But ain't Angel

1064
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: Reese right now? Okay, Kent Taggert evidently gets credit for

1065
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 1: that tweet. Thanks guys. I mean that was really funny.

1066
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: Caitlyn's team is I think gonna be awesome, and she's awesome.

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01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: An Angel is a nice player that has real value

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: and is maybe already the best rebounder in the league,

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01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: certainly one of them. But if that is going to

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: be a real right on court rivalry, then Angel reason

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01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: needs to get better at some of the fundamentals. That's

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: just a fact. And this is where I'm gonna sound

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01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: like the old man. But you had a very very

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01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: very busy public offseason and if you didn't all like,

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01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: if you come back this year the same exact player

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: that you left last year, that's a miss by you.

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01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 1: And so that's that to me, is the more the

1078
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: thing to watch is that is Angel going to continue

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: to be a thirty five percent layup shooter, because that's

1080
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,919
Speaker 1: gonna that that is going to put a real ceiling

1081
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: on who she can be as a player. And this

1082
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 1: is where I am just going to trust my entire career.

1083
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: Bona Fides that people aren't going to be able to

1084
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: try to draw me into the I mean, you know what,

1085
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 1: everyone is gonna get drawn into it. Damn. Look, people,

1086
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 1: is I guess accused Lebron of being anti black because

1087
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: he gave props to Caitlin Clark and so they're there.

1088
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: This is so toxic on certain levels that anybody could

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,520
Speaker 1: be you know, people could make allegations about anyone's motivations.

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: My real motivations on this are, I do I love

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01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: the idea of this being because they clearly don't like

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: each other. I love the idea of this being a

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01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: real rivalry, but one both parties got to hold up

1094
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: there into the bargain as far as making them both

1095
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: being awesome, Like is that all fair stuff?

1096
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 3: In between the whistles and not after?

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: And I listen and I don't even I don't mind

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: the hard fouls, you guys know from this show. I

1099
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: wasn't playing tiny violins last year for Caitlin Clark and

1100
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:01,520
Speaker 1: the flagrance. I didn't give a damn like that. That's sports.

1101
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: And she didn't care either, and she's I say this nicely,

1102
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: I say this with respect. On the court, she's kind

1103
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: of an asshole, like so there is a real edge

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: to her that I think has you know, that can

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01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: irk people, and there's a lot of things that can

1106
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: come from that. But I the let me, let me

1107
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: get this back together. See can you guys DEMONSI talk

1108
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: to me real quick. Yeah, sorry, my headphone died. That

1109
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: probably means we're going too long. It's almost noon. Holy moly,

1110
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: the Niners overpaid on Rock Party. They shouldn't have done it.

1111
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: There's gonna say that their championship window just opened up,

1112
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: just opened up. Yeah, that's gonna be my leading Okay,

1113
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: tell me go ahead any more. I was just gonna say, hey, man,

1114
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: NFL call the forty nine Ers championship window just opened up.

1115
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: Rock Party. Five years, two hundred and sixty five million.

1116
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: They're screwed.

1117
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: I would have listen. I would have I would have

1118
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: wanted to see one more year from Brock. I have

1119
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: a feeling that's going to be a huge part of

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01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: the TV show. We'll get into it more there. I

1121
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: don't have time to do ten minutes on Brock Purty here.

1122
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 1: Let's by the way, before we get to a few

1123
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: listener questions, reminder like rate subscribe review and also this

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01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: week reminder I'm not sure exactly what the schedule is

1125
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna be, so you know, head on a swivel for

1126
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,600
Speaker 1: when the next POD's gonna drop. Uh. The listeners evidently

1127
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: forty listeners said they think the Thunder is gonna win

1128
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: the title. That seems fair.

1129
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Uh, Tim asked Murray and MPJ for Kadi

1130
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,839
Speaker 2: and Filler, any chance of that.

1131
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: That's one of the tim I say this with respect,

1132
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: that's one of the worst trade ideas I've ever heard

1133
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: in my life. You can't trade Jamal Murray and Michael

1134
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: Porter Junior for Kevin Durant. Just ruined the nugget. When

1135
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,440
Speaker 1: I first saw that, I thought you were gonna suggesting

1136
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: Michael Porter Junior for Kevin Durant. Now that's a trade

1137
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: I would consider. I don't think they can make that

1138
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: work capwise. I think that there's too many Apron and

1139
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible for two second Apron adjacent teams to

1140
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: make a trade. But I would consider Michael. If you're

1141
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: the Sons, you're like, Okay, maybe you know at least

1142
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: he's younger, and maybe he stays healthy, whatever it is.

1143
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're gonna trade Jamal Murray, you

1144
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: need to get a bunch back. You can't trade Murray

1145
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: and Michael Porter Junior for Kevin Durant and Filler. Sorry, Tim,

1146
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: I appreciate you watching, but that's a terrible, terrible, terrible trade.

1147
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: It's almost as bad as Bruce. What's up with everybody

1148
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: making these terrible Durant trades? Brew on TV suggested that

1149
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 1: the MAVs offer Anthony Davis for Kevin Durant. I said, Bru,

1150
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: what are you What are you talking about?

1151
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 3: Man?

1152
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: You can't trade Anthony. You traded Luca to get Anthony Davis.

1153
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: You can't trade Anthony Davis to get the thirty seven

1154
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 1: year old Kevin Durant Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday. I told

1155
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: Brew leave the fake trades to me.

1156
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 3: Jordan.

1157
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 2: Jordan asked the Celtics try to trade for Marcus Smarts

1158
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 2: to run things back with him.

1159
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: I think Marcus Smart might be done. Yeah, I think that.

1160
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: You know that that's a guy who's, given his style

1161
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,600
Speaker 1: of play and what a beating his body took's not

1162
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: going to age that well. All right. I am headed

1163
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: to Indy in a couple of days. We'll have another

1164
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: pod this week. I just don't know when to be

1165
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: totally honest with you. Uh, this is a really fun show.

1166
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: I hope you guys Enjordan on a Monday. See you

1167
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,560
Speaker 1: guys on TV in a few hours. Great job to

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: Monday Blue Duck, volume DraftKings, and apologies to Daniel Who's

1169
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: listen man. That banner will fly forever. It might be

1170
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: the only one flying in Baller area for the rest

1171
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 1: of Jokers career, but it'll fly forever. Sorry Daniel. Still

1172
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: not over those brooms you sent me after the Lakers

1173
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: got swept three years ago. See you guys later once right,

1174
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: See you guys