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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up, fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight

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Speaker 2: fire for Wednesday, March nineteenth. Folks were getting close. Oh boy,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait the madness. I mean it's officially underway

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Speaker 2: with the play in or whatever they call it, the

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Speaker 2: sixty round of sixty eight. They got underway last night

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Speaker 2: and listen, North Carolina steamrolled San Diego State as predicted

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Speaker 2: easy winner. I mean that was over like ten minutes

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Speaker 2: into the game. Carolina smoked him. Carolina. Ole Miss is

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Speaker 2: gonna be interesting because I think when you watch the

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Speaker 2: way North Carolina played, you know their brand. I believe

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Speaker 2: the public is going to come in on them hand

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Speaker 2: over fist against ole Miss. Ken Pom has Ole Miss

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Speaker 2: winning by two. That being said, I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if this is a great matchup for Old Miss.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about a team obviously, you know SEC, everybody

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Speaker 2: loves them, but the UNC offense look like a machine

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Speaker 2: know Ole Miss did get the very nice win over

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Speaker 2: was it Arkansas? I think at the buzzer in No,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't Arkansas. Yeah, it was over Arkansas at the

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Speaker 2: buzzer of the first round of the tournament of the

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Speaker 2: SEC Tournament. Or they're out. And this is a team

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Speaker 2: that has gotten blasted by a couple. I mean they

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Speaker 2: lost to Florida by twenty, Auburn by twenty. I mean

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Speaker 2: and then needed a prayer at the buzzer to beat Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: They did show fight against Auburn, but Auburn did not

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Speaker 2: look very locked in. I don't know. I will say

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Speaker 2: I kind of like this kid, Cadeo, the Canadian point

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Speaker 2: guard from wait did I call them? I think he's Canadian,

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Speaker 2: but I see on Ken Pom he's from West Orange,

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Speaker 2: New Jersey. He's a guy who was very touted in

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Speaker 2: high school. Very talented player. Seth Trimble is also a

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Speaker 2: Davis can get volcanic. I'm sorry I liked.

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Speaker 2: I'll take I'll take unc here to take down Old Miss.

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Speaker 2: Let me see what the line is. Oh, I don't

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Speaker 2: see a line yet. Interesting huh, But Ken Pom has

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Speaker 2: it at two for Old Miss, so I'm sure the

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Speaker 2: line will be somewhere in that neighborhood. But but it

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Speaker 2: might actually be closer to pick them, because again I

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Speaker 2: think the public saw the UNC beat down and it's

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Speaker 2: going to back them tonight. Oh I forgot about the

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Speaker 2: other one. Saint Francis just a heartbreaker. Remember my buddy's

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Speaker 2: sister's son plays on Sat Francis. He didn't play a

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Speaker 2: ton but it just a brutal loss on the hail

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Speaker 2: Mary pass that was fumbled. I mean, Alabama Saint just

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Speaker 2: killed him on the glass. It is a shitty result,

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Speaker 2: and you know, what are you gonna do about it?

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Speaker 2: Alabama stated has no chance against Auburn. Good luck. But

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Speaker 2: tonight's games are moderately interesting. I'm on Xavier minus three

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Speaker 2: against Texas. And since I know nothing about American University,

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Speaker 2: why I even brought it up. So there's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a derogatory name for American University back when we

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Speaker 2: a couple people were like, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: to bleep you. It had like a negative connotation. I

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Speaker 2: know they occasionally churned out some pretty damn good basketball teams. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: I took parlay with American on the money line Xavier

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you Xavier for me as a sleeper, the

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Speaker 2: I will very likely be backing them against I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: against Illinois in the next round. And I think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna be live against Kentucky, assuming Kentucky gets by Troy.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get a little more into that tomorrow when

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Speaker 2: tournament day. I'll put out all the bets I have,

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Speaker 2: are the only two action items I have tonight. Today's

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Speaker 2: guest is awesome. His name is John Fanta. He is

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Speaker 2: a rising star in the college basketball announcing ranks. He

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Speaker 2: is passionate about the sport, knows it as well as anyone.

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Speaker 2: If you like Jeff Goodman's interview, if you like Franfriscilla

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Speaker 2: you're gonna like John Fanta and enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: listen live. Jason likes to think he knows everything when

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Speaker 1: it comes to sports.

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Speaker 3: I know what sports fans want, but for everything he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He knows a guy who does.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say, I know a guy who knows a

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight Fire. One of

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Speaker 2: the rising stars in college basketball media. You see him

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Speaker 2: on Fox FS one. He's all over the place, covers

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Speaker 2: the sport with a passion and a vigor that you

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Speaker 2: know you just have to love it. Mister Fanta, how

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Speaker 2: are you.

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Speaker 3: Doing, Jason? It is great to be with you. As

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Speaker 3: you said before we came on, It's such a fun

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Speaker 3: time of year because if you're a hoops junkie, you

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Speaker 3: get into the madness here and it is absolute madness.

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Speaker 3: Anybody can beat anybody for the most part, and then

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Speaker 3: you come off the tournament. You got the NBA playoffs

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Speaker 3: right pretty much right away. So this is our time

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Speaker 3: and year, my friend, because I know how much you

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Speaker 3: love it. And between all of this and then we

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Speaker 3: get into mock draft season, you and I are both

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Speaker 3: both picking bat like it. This is it right here,

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Speaker 3: ramp it up and let's go.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let me I'm very curious what assignment

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Speaker 2: you got for March Madness. Obviously you know everybody, You're

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Speaker 2: plugged in everywhere. There are a couple interesting scenarios that

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Speaker 2: I can envision you getting sent to. Where did you

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Speaker 2: Where are you going to be for the first weekend

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Speaker 3: So I'm based in New Jersey, yes, So when the

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Speaker 3: When it comes out that in the Wild Wild West region,

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Speaker 3: that Arkansas is going to play Kansas, and that Saint

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Speaker 3: John's is in the same pot playing Omaha, who, by

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Speaker 3: the way, has the cool trash can story with coach Crutchfield.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of gone viral and it's been fun. And

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Speaker 3: the other two matchups are Will Wade facing is Alma Monter.

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Speaker 3: if you get knocked off. And Braydon Smith, who is

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Speaker 3: as good as any point guard in the country, and

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Speaker 3: Purdue made the National Championship game last year. Matt Painters

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Speaker 3: second round site? Is what? Is Painter the fourth best coach?

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Speaker 3: You know, not a top three in the in today's

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Speaker 3: they're playing high Point, who's upset minded and is a

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Speaker 3: dangerous mid major. I am off to Providence for what

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Speaker 3: will be a spectacle, my friend Rick Patino, John Calipari,

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Speaker 2: That's good. That doesn't get much better than that. Now,

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Speaker 2: Saint John's obviously listen, They're gonna beat Omaha. We got

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Speaker 2: that as I look at the bracket. However, Kansas, Arkansas

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Speaker 2: I thought Kansas would be fine there, but you know,

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Speaker 2: Calipari is gonna want badly to face Patino. They do

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Speaker 2: not like each other. That history is well documented, shall

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Speaker 2: we say, But is there a chance that Calipari so

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Speaker 3: I mean that's an interesting point. And remember Kansas has

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Speaker 3: play their A game. What they're gonna have to do

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Speaker 3: So I think Arkansas can be solid enough defensively against Kansas.

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Speaker 3: I would dare them to shoot outside of Zeke Mayo.

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Speaker 3: Nobody for Kansas is that scary from the perimeter. In fact,

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Speaker 3: He's a New York City kid, Archbishop stepinac Jason. You

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Speaker 3: Remember here, Arkansas got a March Madness hero in Nellie

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Speaker 3: Arkansas they're a driving kick team, like they went to

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Speaker 3: Arkansas defensively doing that. But I I my brackets said Kansas. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: at the numbers, not a great year. There were there

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Speaker 2: as of now he's got to come back to college.

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Speaker 2: Now he's on the young side. I think he's still twenty.

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Speaker 3: down to, ultimately your three point shooting. He's not when

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Speaker 3: teams are going to dare him to shoot, and he

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Speaker 3: has just been a thirty percent career college shooter. Jason,

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Speaker 2: Let me go to another big eas team real quick.

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Speaker 2: Marquette loved them last year, just an epic letdown. I

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Speaker 3: Great game? I think it'll be a tremendous game they are.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna go down the wire. Like if by trouble

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Speaker 3: In my humble opinion, a game like this from New Mexico,

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Speaker 3: Kim Mustafa Amzil knocked down some shots when Dent is

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Speaker 3: New Mexico can win this ballgame. The problem is neither

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Michigan State. I keep seeing the stat

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Speaker 3: I've got them in my final four. But you know,

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Speaker 3: So for me, Michigan State, you're talking about a guy

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Speaker 3: They looked horrible offensively.

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Speaker 3: Not a good game for college hoops. It was not

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Speaker 3: to average eight and eight per game. It might seem small,

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Speaker 3: but for that team, they needed a lead horse on

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Speaker 3: the interior. The next leading rebound leading rebounder is Carson Cooper,

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Speaker 3: who only averaged seventeen minutes a game. So this is

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Speaker 3: a front court that coming into the year was a

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Speaker 3: big mystery. But when Ankins and Richardson are cooking and

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Speaker 3: they're able to set up their defense in the half court,

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Speaker 3: They're very difficult to be They're a really good fast

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Speaker 3: break team. I've got them coming out of the South.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Auburn is a team everybody loves number one seed.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Pettiford. I will say this, his last game

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Speaker 2: against Tennessee zero for eight from the field, could not

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Speaker 2: throw in the ocean, and the game before that against

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Speaker 2: Ole Miss, which is kind of nip and tuck, he

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Speaker 2: had five points. So freshman, I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: hitting a wall or you know, maybe the moment's getting

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Speaker 2: a little too big. I love this kid, love I've

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Speaker 2: done following his stuff on Instagram forever. The kid awesome.

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Speaker 2: I just have some concerns about Auburn as a number

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Speaker 2: one seed.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, the concerns are real because again they've

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Speaker 3: lost three of their last four games, and hot Pettiford

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Speaker 3: is an electric factory and chat Baker Mazzar is one

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Speaker 3: of the best tough shot makers in the sport. But

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Speaker 3: this is a team that part of the reason why

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Speaker 3: they have been so special is they have been so

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Speaker 3: physical defensively getting up in you and I've sent some

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Speaker 3: complacency on that end of the floor over the last

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks now being in the SEC, like got

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Speaker 3: to understand the scale we're judging them on is totally

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Speaker 3: different than a lot of teams, a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: that would lose to these SEC teams. But you know

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Speaker 3: they they they fell short to Tennessee and as you said,

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Speaker 3: in that game, they shot six for twenty one from

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Speaker 3: three and Denver Jones was one for six a non

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Speaker 3: really a non factor, and Pattiford was terrible. He can't

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Speaker 3: be he can't be that. He offers them a jolt.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he offers them a renal. Joe. I think

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Speaker 3: teams are figuring out like, hey, we take away transition opportunities,

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Speaker 3: we make them run their stuff. We could test the

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Speaker 3: three Jason j and I. Broom's gonna get his. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna get his. What opens up the game for

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Speaker 3: a team like that, it's when Baker Massar, Kelly Jones, Pettiford.

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Speaker 3: The good news, the luxury they have is they've got

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Speaker 3: four guys who can all take off in any game.

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Speaker 3: That's a really good trait to have. But you know,

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Speaker 3: you wonder here, like some people are like, eh, they're fine. Well,

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Speaker 3: in the tournament, you're playing six one game tournaments, not

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Speaker 3: one six game tournament. You have to show up six

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Speaker 3: times and win a one game playoff, you know, old

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Speaker 3: MLB wildcard one game playoff style. So I I look

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Speaker 3: at this team and I am a little concerned. Remember

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Speaker 3: they got upset last year in the tournament by Yale.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, they got a tough draw like they would

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Speaker 3: have to play if Louisville beats Craton, they have to

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Speaker 3: play Louisville and Lexington. What was the committee thinking there?

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Speaker 2: Disrespectful?

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Speaker 3: Actually it's wrong, it's Disrespectful's right.

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Speaker 2: Probably don't like Bruce pearl Stills, right, right.

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Speaker 3: So I mean it's gonna be interesting. There's there's some

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Speaker 3: trendy you know, A and M's not afraid of them.

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Speaker 3: They're in the same I think AM is gonna get

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Speaker 3: picked off by Yale. But if whether it's Yale, you

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Speaker 3: see San Diego. You know, Michigan just won the Big

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Speaker 3: Ten tournament. I think Auburn's better than Michigan. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I don't have Auburn making the final four because you

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Speaker 3: could say, ah, there's nothing psychological there when you've lost

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Speaker 3: three of four heading into the tournament. I'm never gonna

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Speaker 3: sit here and love that all right.

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Speaker 2: We could wrap up real quick. John Duke Cooper Flag.

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Speaker 2: Everybody expects him to play. I saw stat that Duke

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Speaker 2: has the highest net rating of any team in like

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Speaker 2: the last two decades.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know people will say the ACC's down, but they

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Speaker 2: did play Kentucky Auburn. Auburn was at home. I think

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Speaker 2: they had a couple other tough games in there. They

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Speaker 2: smashed Illinois by like eighty points. Do you have Duke

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Speaker 2: as the overall favorite and the team to cut down

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Speaker 2: the nets?

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Speaker 3: I have Florida as my will cut down the nets.

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Speaker 3: I think that they will be the national champions, but

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Speaker 3: I think Duke. I think Duke has a cruise control

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Speaker 3: in the final four. I love their draw. I think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna come out of the East. There's no way

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Speaker 3: Mississippi State or Baylor's beating that Dukee team. They're just

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Speaker 3: too complete with or without Cooper Flag. The first time

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Speaker 3: they get tested is the Sweet sixteen. Maybe, like Oregon's

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Speaker 3: been way up and down, they haven't had a lead

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Speaker 3: guard be consistent for them between Keyshawn Barthelomy and Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Schel said they would need one of those guys to

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Speaker 3: go nuclear in a game like that. Arizona could Carolina

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Speaker 3: Caleb Love put a run together. Maybe don't sleep on

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Speaker 3: Akron Nad and Tamari Johnson, the zips, don't, don't, don't

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Speaker 3: just put them all.

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Speaker 2: I love how he just rattled. I haven't seen Akron once.

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Speaker 2: Don't know their starts. You're just rattling off guys like

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Speaker 2: like you're in your back pocket.

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Speaker 3: I love it, the back stuff in the backpack. I

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Speaker 3: think Duke Go Coast the final four. I just think

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Speaker 3: Florida is the best team in the sport right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tough to disagree. John Fanta Fox Sports a lot

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Speaker 2: of things on his horizon. He's blowing up. He's everywhere, John,

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Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time and a busy week. Enjoy Providence.

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Speaker 3: But man, thank you j Max love your stuff. I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you having me