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Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.
Speaker 2: Welcome to rot Fresh Radio. I'm your host, Casey Smith.
Speaker 2: And guess what. The rut is raging around the country.
Speaker 2: There are deer doing all kinds of deary things. However,
Speaker 2: the weather is not cooperating. Will it affect the rut?
Speaker 2: Let's see, this is rough Fresh.
Speaker 3: Let's go what has happened in all you woods people.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's kind of it's kind of warm.
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Speaker 2: When I was talking to you on the phone, I
Speaker 2: stripped down to nothing but my Marino briefs because it
Speaker 2: was so hot.
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Speaker 2: So, uh, we've got some rough, fresh interviews today. I
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all know this, but it's the month
Speaker 2: of November and it's a big deal. Yeah, So these
Speaker 2: are the big times, the good stuff to listen to.
Speaker 3: We've got some crazy stuff talk about here in a bit.
Speaker 2: But I believe that there's a good number of you
Speaker 2: sitting there sad, quiet alone, just crying in your pillow
Speaker 2: because it's after November tenth and the rut's over.
Speaker 3: For the rest of your life is that the right tiler.
Speaker 3: Is that right? No, Oh, my gosh, it's not.
Speaker 6: No. No, listen, y'all. The rutt is raging right now.
Speaker 6: It's raging.
Speaker 4: You know what. Else, I'm gonna give you a little
Speaker 4: bit optimism here.
Speaker 3: I need it.
Speaker 6: Once, I'm serious. Once I was talking to Greg about
Speaker 6: this this morning. Once the doe, once the bucks have
Speaker 6: made their rounds to all the family dough groups and
Speaker 6: a lot of the does become bred, the bucks get
Speaker 6: more active even or at least they're more visible.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: So, in other words, this buck is still full of testosterone.
Speaker 6: He's still mad at the world. He still thinks he's
Speaker 6: got breeding rights to everything that walks right now. And
Speaker 6: he also knows that there are a bunch of does
Speaker 6: that are not in heat anymore or whatever not. They've
Speaker 6: already been bred, and so he has to make these
Speaker 6: rounds longer and longer and longer to find the dough
Speaker 6: last does that aren't bred. And then eventually, in my opinion,
Speaker 6: there's what a lot of people call the second rut,
Speaker 6: which happens when a lot of times, when you know,
Speaker 6: depending on buckdough ratios, if there wasn't something that was bred,
Speaker 6: you know, a month later then it'll come back in
Speaker 6: or for the six month old deer that are kind
Speaker 6: of just becoming mature enough to do the thing right.
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of hope involved right now. In fact,
Speaker 6: I think a lot of guys would agree. But for
Speaker 6: me in the Midwest, the Thanksgiving area has always been
Speaker 6: a really good time for me in my opinion. I
Speaker 6: actually one eyed jack. I shot that deer in twenty
Speaker 6: fifteen and he was following a big mature dough on
Speaker 6: Decemimber second. So there's there's great things that happen. That's
Speaker 6: a as a Kansas deer, y'all. I mean, those these
Speaker 6: are deer that behave like the quote unquote Midwest deer
Speaker 6: that everybody thinks November seventh is the last day they
Speaker 6: do anything right. So have hope, have hope that it
Speaker 6: will it can happen.
Speaker 2: I've talked to many killers, actually not just Tyler, who
Speaker 2: say that they like the teens in November the best
Speaker 2: for killing and likes this big mature deer.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't personally have the experience of that to to
Speaker 2: confirm or deny, but I can see where they out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you go find them and it works. One of
Speaker 2: the things, honestly that at least in our neck of
Speaker 2: the woods, that you could have going for you is
Speaker 2: that the cover gets more sparse and the deer in
Speaker 2: the open because you have frosts. So a lot of
Speaker 2: the country gets the first frost between October twenty eighth
Speaker 2: and November seventh, and that's going to cause leaves to fall.
Speaker 2: It's gonna cause the grass turn brown and die and
Speaker 2: fall over and it and like, things can look a
Speaker 2: lot different from Halloween to you know, November tenth, and
Speaker 2: you can find visible deer ye, So get out there,
Speaker 2: get your glass out if you hadn't. You know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that kill big dogs that way. Well,
Speaker 2: Chancey Walters, we you know friends the program Chancy Walters.
Speaker 2: He kills big deer that way just putting eyes on him,
Speaker 2: which element yeah okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.
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Speaker 2: But today we're gonna have some fun as well, because man,
Speaker 2: I was responsible this week. Tyler has held it down. No,
Speaker 2: I don't mean I'm responsible. I mean this just this week.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Tyler's held it down all year while I've
Speaker 2: been on these hunts, and now we're kind of swapping
Speaker 2: rolls a little bit. He has some really cool hunts
Speaker 2: that he's been going on. So I was the guy
Speaker 2: who gathered guests this week, and it just so happens.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of dudes on here that sound
Speaker 2: kind of like me. Well, I have a relative, Isaac Smith.
Speaker 2: He didn't sound like me, but he we're relatives. So yeah,
Speaker 2: he's up there hunting in Michigan, had some success up there.
Speaker 2: We have Patrick Paysinger.
Speaker 4: Isaac's been successful in Michigan though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, apparently it's going down in Michigan. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: there you go. That's it.
Speaker 4: It's calm in Texas, Kilam, Michigan.
Speaker 2: Don't matter where the big numbers this week, guys, by
Speaker 2: the way, so just wait some big numbers when it
Speaker 2: comes to predictions. Patrick pay Singer from dead En Game
Speaker 2: calls he is in Kansas right now hunting a giant.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Brennan Rhodes, my high school best friend, one of my
Speaker 2: best friends of my life, has been in Old Mexico
Speaker 2: hunting deer down there. Got an interesting report from some
Speaker 2: giants that went down in Mexico. And then we've got
Speaker 2: the real Pitts, Michael Pitts from Real Tree Road Trips,
Speaker 2: the real one. He's the real one, the real deal.
Speaker 2: He fakes on Brian Bostik, and Pitts has been hunting
Speaker 2: in Georgia. And it's going down in Georgia right now
Speaker 2: apparently too. And Pitts's gonna give us a lowdown on
Speaker 2: all that country stuff. Apparently it's going down in Georgia
Speaker 2: right now as well.
Speaker 3: Man. I mean, it's mid November, right, The reports are
Speaker 3: gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Guys, don't expect anything terrible, right, but there are some
Speaker 2: intricate details that just might help you kill the big bucks.
Speaker 2: So let's get to these interviews. I have got my buddy,
Speaker 2: Isaac Smith. He has been hunting up in Michigan, chasing
Speaker 2: the bucks around with some success.
Speaker 3: Isaac, what's going on, Hey, how's it going? Man? Oh,
Speaker 3: it's going pretty good.
Speaker 2: Just trying to get some work done while I'm in
Speaker 2: the middle of a hunt and dealing with you know,
Speaker 2: hot temps and all that.
Speaker 3: Well, how's it looking up there.
Speaker 7: It's been pretty pretty good.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: A lot of active bucks in Michigan, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: That's cool, man. I heard all the bucks got killed
Speaker 3: in Michigan.
Speaker 2: That's what people say, Like at one point five is
Speaker 2: meture buck there, right.
Speaker 8: You know, it seems to be the trend until this
Speaker 8: time of year, and then they just start showing.
Speaker 7: Up, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah that's cool man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I've been I've been fortunate.
Speaker 8: I actually just moved to Michigan about two months ago,
Speaker 8: so it's my first full season here, so it's all
Speaker 8: new to me. But you know, yeah, I was able
Speaker 8: to get a nice buck down and then I've seen
Speaker 8: multiple other really nice nine to ten point type bucks
Speaker 8: with good frames.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8: What the what all the the attitude about Michigan is about, honestly,
Speaker 8: because I'm seeing great bucks here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean there's been some big ones killed there,
Speaker 2: for sure. I think it's just a lot of hunters,
Speaker 2: which translates to a lot of pressure. But there's a
Speaker 2: lot of deer, so everybody gets to have fun. Yep,
Speaker 2: for sure, what are those deer doing that you're seeing
Speaker 2: come again, like the deer that you're that you had
Speaker 2: success with, and the other bucks that you've seen around.
Speaker 2: What are they doing are they are they doing a
Speaker 2: bed to feed things still? Are they scraping or are
Speaker 2: they chasing?
Speaker 7: Dose?
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're scraping. They seem to be cruising.
Speaker 7: I have not seen a single buck chasing all all fall,
Speaker 7: so that seems a little weird to me.
Speaker 8: I feel like, in you know, previous years, primarily being
Speaker 8: in my home base of Wisconsin, you know, there'd be.
Speaker 7: A lot of chasing by now.
Speaker 8: But and I was in Wisconsin last week too, and
Speaker 8: I did not see any chasing there either.
Speaker 7: But as it was weird.
Speaker 8: But yeah, a lot of bucks moving in the morning,
Speaker 8: and it's it's kind of been like really warm mid
Speaker 8: day around south central Wisconsin and Michigan, So I don't know,
Speaker 8: mostly morning activity.
Speaker 3: That's directly related to temperature.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I heard that the acorn crop has been just like
Speaker 8: off the charts and it's keeping dear more local. I
Speaker 8: don't know if that's something you've been hearing as well.
Speaker 3: But around the country it seems to be the case.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is in East Texas, I just talked
Speaker 2: to Michael Pittson in Georgia.
Speaker 3: He said the same thing. So it seems as if
Speaker 3: that's that's what's going on.
Speaker 7: That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 8: I would have thought that just it being the rut
Speaker 8: would kind of overrule all other factors.
Speaker 7: Whether it's warmer, cold, or acorns or not or whatever.
Speaker 8: But it's definitely, in my experience, the last couple of
Speaker 8: weeks seem to be.
Speaker 7: The least ruddy rut like that I've experienced.
Speaker 3: That's weird, man.
Speaker 2: Well, do you think that the just consistency that's on
Speaker 2: the weather charts right now is going to help or
Speaker 2: hurt that?
Speaker 8: I don't know. I've just I've been wround this whole
Speaker 8: season so far, so I'm not sure what.
Speaker 3: To expect, you know. Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 8: It's it's on these colder mornings like this morning, my
Speaker 8: son and I were out, we had a couple a
Speaker 8: couple of good Bucks come through, and then it just
Speaker 8: kind of shut off, you know, by ten o'clock or so,
Speaker 8: and that's just when the temperatures kind of spikes and
Speaker 8: and we just kind of get bored.
Speaker 3: So are y'all hunting like deep in cover or are
Speaker 3: you doing the field edge thing.
Speaker 7: It's a mix of both.
Speaker 8: I got this property in Michigan that borders a golf course,
Speaker 8: so I can see him out on.
Speaker 7: The golf course.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, but then we're back in the cover,
Speaker 8: so they kind of you know, head back in these
Speaker 8: cut trails and stuff. So true you can see them
Speaker 8: coming before they hit the timber. So that's kind of yeah,
Speaker 8: that is cool. Yeah, it's been fun, but no, not
Speaker 8: not really doing the field edge thing, not so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So if you were to look ahead for the next
Speaker 2: week and to rate the next week on a scale
Speaker 2: of one to ten for buck movement, what would you call.
Speaker 7: It, I'd say in Michigan that'd be like a eight.
Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean I've had.
Speaker 8: Like a good shooters come through every set for the
Speaker 8: last week, and it's kind of it kind of seems
Speaker 8: to be just.
Speaker 7: The frequency is kind of going up.
Speaker 8: And I've got I've got one buck tag left here
Speaker 8: in Michigan, so I'm I'm kind of saving it for
Speaker 8: a special one.
Speaker 7: But but the.
Speaker 8: Opportunities, for sure, they're like, uh, they seem to be
Speaker 8: cruising hard. Yeah, but again just like that, I don't know,
Speaker 8: I don't see him dogging does.
Speaker 2: Like so, well, who knows that point in time, you know,
Speaker 2: like it is November and you gave it an eight.
Speaker 3: So they're listening and they're going to cooperate. I think so.
Speaker 3: I think that this is your week.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 3: You're gonna fill that last buck tag on a giant
Speaker 3: I hope.
Speaker 8: So fire arms open tomorrow, So that's a wild card.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 7: Well I'm gonna just keep it up and try to
Speaker 7: make it happen.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Ride the roller coaster, man. I appreciate the report. You
Speaker 2: bet on the phone. I have got my buddy Patrick
Speaker 2: pay Singer from dead End Game Calls. I used to
Speaker 2: call him Big Pat, but he's kind of medium Pat
Speaker 2: these days. You've been slimming up Patrick.
Speaker 10: Yes, I have had to keep over those kiddos.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you, man, and keep up chasing them.
Speaker 4: Deer.
Speaker 2: You're up in Kansas right now. Actually we are sharing
Speaker 2: a state at the moment. We're both in Kansas and
Speaker 2: trying to find some big whitetail bucks.
Speaker 3: You put in eyes on any.
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I am seeing a lot riding around. Been
Speaker 9: just doing some road scouting in the mornings and seeing
Speaker 9: them on their feet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guarantee you man.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, different parts of the country
Speaker 2: the rut looks different. And in Kansas, this later I
Speaker 2: don't know if you call it later, but you know,
Speaker 2: at least kind of middle of the rut seems to
Speaker 2: really get them deer out running around.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're seeing?
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's exactly what I say. It seems like.
Speaker 9: The week leading into Thanksgiving is always the best in Kansas,
Speaker 9: at least a part southeastern Kansas where I'm at, the
Speaker 9: bigger boys get up closer, you get the Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And that's that's exciting too, because you know
Speaker 2: sometimes people look at like once the first ten days
Speaker 2: of November is over, it's like over. It's like, no, man,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of good stuff going on right now,
Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, yeah, So what are the deer really doing?
Speaker 2: Are they targeting dough betting areas? Are they heading the
Speaker 2: food or like, what do you say seeing bucks doing
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 9: What I'm seeing is a mixture of I'm seeing some
Speaker 9: single mature bucks out with those out in the middle
Speaker 9: of the pastures and the stage, and then I'm just
Speaker 9: seeing loan cruisers, cruisies, ditches and fence rows looking for those.
Speaker 3: Are you seeing big mature bucks doing that?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just seems like the transition
Speaker 9: right now from young immature bucks to mature bucks getting
Speaker 9: on their feet this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so is that you think that's is that weather related?
Speaker 2: Is it dates or what makes that happen?
Speaker 10: I think it's dates. I think it would be even
Speaker 10: better if it was a little bit cooler.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking at a pretty pretty I wouldn't call
Speaker 2: it bleak outlook, but it's just a very monotonous weather
Speaker 2: pattern that we're in, you know, for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: We're looking at similar dates, which I guess be good, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you got a pattern, they're going to
Speaker 2: hold to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is very stagnant weather. It's actually working really
Speaker 9: good because I'm targeting a specific big mature buck and
Speaker 9: he is not on a dough. He's going from betting
Speaker 9: to feed and uh so it's better for me trying
Speaker 9: to hunt one single buck of not having him chasing
Speaker 9: and on a dough.
Speaker 3: Right now, How are you getting the intel about this buck?
Speaker 10: Trail cameras?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're running cameras running celle cameras and getting
Speaker 2: pictures of you having to go check cards or what
Speaker 2: do you do with that?
Speaker 10: No, I'm running a Browning cell phone camera. Yeah, and
Speaker 10: it's it's.
Speaker 9: Just outside the betting. They're they're coming from betting, hitting
Speaker 9: some grain and then he's actually hitting a pond going
Speaker 9: out to the big bean field and and where he's
Speaker 9: hitting this, it's been right after shooting, and this this
Speaker 9: morning he actually hit it going back into betting right
Speaker 9: at shooting time. So I know he's betting close, and
Speaker 9: I'm fixing to hit the woods and go after him.
Speaker 3: Oh today, you're gonna go kill us deer today? Huh.
Speaker 9: I hope the wind is right and I know he's
Speaker 9: betty close, So I'm going in this afternoon after.
Speaker 3: Him on one of those sets like that.
Speaker 2: Are you trying to do pre hung sets or you
Speaker 2: do you already have or you got your gear? You're
Speaker 2: gonna go in and just kind of do running gunstop
Speaker 2: top dealer, what are you doing?
Speaker 9: Typically here I do running gun and use the cruiser saddle,
Speaker 9: but here with limited trees, we do have a pre
Speaker 9: hume set right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, I mean it's it's being able to
Speaker 3: run and guns good.
Speaker 2: But having that pre pre hung set is a real quiet,
Speaker 2: easy way to get in the tree and be pretty
Speaker 2: comfortable too.
Speaker 9: Exactly.
Speaker 3: So what do you think the deer are going to
Speaker 3: be doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're gonna tag out tonight, so
Speaker 2: you don't really have to know too much, right, But
Speaker 2: if you were going to say, you know, for people
Speaker 2: out there who are thinking about mey, you know, hitting
Speaker 2: the road and heading over, they're kind of looking at
Speaker 2: that weather out looking kind of I don't know, what
Speaker 2: do you think that you're gonna be doing over the
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 9: I think starting Friday or Saturday here in the southeast.
Speaker 10: It's going to go up. It's going to go up because.
Speaker 9: I'm seeing it get down into the fifties is a
Speaker 9: high north wind. So I think about Friday or Saturday,
Speaker 9: we're going to see it kick even up.
Speaker 3: Oo.
Speaker 2: Man, that gets me excited to I have a tag
Speaker 2: just burning a hole in my pocket because's kind of
Speaker 2: like you, you know, I'm itching. So that's exciting stuff, dude.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get out there and get after
Speaker 2: him with you. If you had to give it a
Speaker 2: rating on a scale of one to ten for the
Speaker 2: next week, for Buck movement. What would you call it, I'd.
Speaker 9: Say it's going to go from a six to an eight.
Speaker 2: Eights are good, dude, I like big eights especially. You know,
Speaker 2: I'll take you away. Yeah, awesome, Patricause. That's great info, dude.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, and I appreciate your friendship.
Speaker 3: Man. I hope you kill a giant tonight.
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, sounds good, brother, and I hope you do too.
Speaker 2: On the throne, I've got East Texas finest Brennan Roads. However,
Speaker 2: he has been down hunting Old Mexico. This is one
Speaker 2: of my best friends of all time.
Speaker 3: Brendan.
Speaker 2: What's going on, dude, Oh not much, man, not much.
Speaker 2: Who you've been out caping deer?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I had a friend of mine.
Speaker 11: He killed a pretty good buck he's gonna get mounted,
Speaker 11: and he asked.
Speaker 3: Me to help him cape it out. So I went
Speaker 3: and fellowship and skinned of deer.
Speaker 5: Go Lee.
Speaker 2: Man, you just a good buddy to have around, and
Speaker 2: you got some good buddies that have decided to let
Speaker 2: you go down to Old Mexico with him.
Speaker 3: This is Mexico for our northern friends.
Speaker 2: Uh. And you've been doing a little white til hunting
Speaker 2: down there, Yes, sir, Yeah, Man, tell me about that.
Speaker 3: What's it like down there?
Speaker 2: It is amazing, very game rich environment, probably one of
Speaker 2: the one of the top, one of the top hunts
Speaker 2: that I've ever been on.
Speaker 3: Man, that's cool. And you've been doing a lot of hunting.
Speaker 2: I was with you and you killed your first elk,
Speaker 2: and I mean it kind of hurts my heart a
Speaker 2: little bit for you tell me that that's one of
Speaker 2: the top hunts you've ever been on. But I would
Speaker 2: assumed of the top hunts. Yeah, I've seen that's in
Speaker 2: one of the top tiers there. They're sharing it, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure. So you've seen a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of deer down there then, huh.
Speaker 11: Yeah, uh a fair amount. I mean, you know, talking
Speaker 11: to those guys, it was it was slow movement, but.
Speaker 2: To my standard, it was it was pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's going on down there? Those deer eating agriculture? Are
Speaker 2: they just living out in the wild or what do
Speaker 2: they do? So where we're hunting there is uh, absolutely
Speaker 2: no agriculture. It is uh it is just short brush canyons.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 11: The terrain, it's got some pretty good terrain to it, Uh,
Speaker 11: some canyon type stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean it's just it's wild country. What
Speaker 3: state is that in Mexico or probably that's where they
Speaker 3: call them khila.
Speaker 2: All right, that's like that salt hot sauce on the
Speaker 2: counter at the cafe, isn't it.
Speaker 3: That's it, that's it. That's cool.
Speaker 2: And so y'all are targeting these deer uh at water
Speaker 2: you're feeding or what?
Speaker 3: What's going on down there?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 3: We are, we are there. There are troughs you know
Speaker 3: for the it is a operating cattle ranch.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh they're so you know you can key off there.
Speaker 2: There are no there is no natural pond water or
Speaker 2: tank water.
Speaker 11: Uh it is uh, it's all uh solar pumped and
Speaker 11: fed down the water troughs.
Speaker 3: I mean there are.
Speaker 2: There are opportunities to hunt on the water and uh
Speaker 2: also you know, uh this time of year, you know
Speaker 2: there's the corner is effective.
Speaker 11: But you know, as far as deer movement being slow,
Speaker 11: it's they got a lot of rainfall this year and.
Speaker 3: For November it was extremely green.
Speaker 2: Got you, got you, and so whenever you're down there
Speaker 2: in November right now, is it pre rut?
Speaker 3: Like bachelor groups?
Speaker 2: Are they separated making scrapes and doing the thing or
Speaker 2: what's going on.
Speaker 11: So we did, We did find scrapes, we did find
Speaker 11: some fresh grapes, and uh that we were that.
Speaker 3: We were, you know, running gun cameras.
Speaker 11: This, that and the other, trying to locate different deer
Speaker 11: that they seen in Velvet. And but as far as
Speaker 11: right now, you know, pre rut, I mean it is.
Speaker 11: I would say that it's probably on the cuff of
Speaker 11: becoming pre rut. Like it's you might see you might
Speaker 11: see a young deer try to try to bump a
Speaker 11: dough around, but it's really not starting to kick there yet.
Speaker 3: Got you? Got you?
Speaker 2: So you actually shot you nasty down there, man. Congratulations
Speaker 2: on that. It's pretty cool and it seemed like y'all
Speaker 2: had a real good hunt. Is this kind of like
Speaker 2: this cusp of the rut? Is that like the good
Speaker 2: time to be there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, any time to be there is
Speaker 11: a good time, you know. But I would say I've
Speaker 11: never been there in December?
Speaker 3: Yeah I do. I do one of these days.
Speaker 11: Hopefully, Lord willing, I'll be able to make a December trip,
Speaker 11: because about mid December.
Speaker 3: They really are, they really are rutting hard.
Speaker 2: Well, what do you think they're gonna do in to
Speaker 2: hear in about the next week or so, you think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be kind of more of the same, or
Speaker 2: what's it gonna look like.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna say probably in the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 11: you're probably gonna start if I had to guess, you know,
Speaker 11: when I'm still a greenhorn from Mexico hunting. I've been
Speaker 11: in January, I've been in November. But I really feel
Speaker 11: like by the way I've seen some of the younger
Speaker 11: deer act, I feel like that you're going to start
Speaker 11: seeing more activity, you know, moving towards you know, checking
Speaker 11: those and uh, you know what I call cruising. One
Speaker 11: thing we did notice, we did see some We did
Speaker 11: see some older deer start gaining some ground. As far
Speaker 11: as territory, you know, it's a very vast you know,
Speaker 11: the ranch that we were hunting is very big, and uh,
Speaker 11: you know summertime, you know, they're they're kind of locked
Speaker 11: down to their home turf.
Speaker 3: We were seeing bucks.
Speaker 2: My you know, upwards to two miles from where they were.
Speaker 3: You know, getting pictures of them summertime on their feet.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: So if you look forward for like the next week,
Speaker 2: what do you expect the deer movement, the buck movement.
Speaker 3: Excuse me to be like, on a scale of one
Speaker 3: to ten.
Speaker 11: I would say probably in the next week, you're probably
Speaker 11: I'd say I'd probably rate it at six, all right,
Speaker 11: And then as time goes on, of course, I feel
Speaker 11: like that's really gonna start taking off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the roller coaster is starting to tick right getting
Speaker 2: on up there. Well, that's cool, man, appreciate the report.
Speaker 2: It's from a neat area of the country. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you got to go down there, man, and it was
Speaker 2: a blood really really appreciate you, man, absolutely. Now I've
Speaker 2: got Michael Pitts, the real Pits or Pits as most
Speaker 2: people just call him. And this dude's a killer from
Speaker 2: all over the country from you can see him on
Speaker 2: real tree road trips and right now he is in Georgia.
Speaker 3: Michael, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 5: Man, it's just enough a day in paradise this way
Speaker 5: I call it to see it and everything else.
Speaker 3: So that's good man.
Speaker 5: I was glad to be here.
Speaker 3: What's the temperatures running right now in your area?
Speaker 5: Georgia temperatures right now, we've been kind of on a
Speaker 5: roller coaster here lately a little bit it got real
Speaker 5: cold and then it warmed up a little bit to
Speaker 5: the mid seventies or so. It's falling back down the
Speaker 5: past few days. So we're getting a lot better movement,
Speaker 5: you know, right now. The colder weather always helps the
Speaker 5: visibility as far as daytime and mature bucks go. So
Speaker 5: we're dealing with about sixty five degree tempts right now
Speaker 5: on the high and the lows are around forty to forty.
Speaker 3: Five right now. Y'all still have leaves on the trees
Speaker 3: or is all that cover gone?
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, we got leaves on the trees still. Now.
Speaker 5: It's going pretty quick right now, but we've still got,
Speaker 5: you know, a little bit of concealment left in the trees.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not totally naked up there yet, but
Speaker 5: it's on its way to being. We're probably at about
Speaker 5: fifty percent right now. I would say, got you, got you.
Speaker 5: And so you've been hunting Georgia quite a bit. What
Speaker 5: are the deer really doing right now?
Speaker 3: Are they pre rut or are they they starting to
Speaker 3: get after it now?
Speaker 5: They're starting to get after it right now. I would
Speaker 5: say the past couple of weeks have been a good
Speaker 5: pre rut phase to where you see a lot of
Speaker 5: the younger deer chasing, but your mature deer not on
Speaker 5: their feet yet. The past few days we've been seeing
Speaker 5: a lot of mature deer on their feet, which is
Speaker 5: a good thing and lets you know that the rut
Speaker 5: is actually kind of starting to have. But it's just
Speaker 5: not the young ones acting crazy. The temperature has affected
Speaker 5: it a little bit. I mean, we were well on
Speaker 5: our way to probably having an early rut and then
Speaker 5: we had a temperature spike, which the temperature spikes, I
Speaker 5: don't think that necessarily stops the rut. I think it
Speaker 5: stops us from visually seeing it because they go more
Speaker 5: nocturnal and they're.
Speaker 3: Breeding at night and.
Speaker 5: That sort of thing. But the colder weather lets us
Speaker 5: allow visibility of it a little bit more because the
Speaker 5: deer just on their feet and feeding more that sort
Speaker 5: of thing. So the past couple of days have been
Speaker 5: very good. We had an encounter with a mature deer
Speaker 5: yesterday evening that was doing a lot of chase and
Speaker 5: he came in typical right five minutes after shooting lights,
Speaker 5: so we couldn't we couldn't put an air in him.
Speaker 5: But he was standing thirty yards from me, you know,
Speaker 5: and that's that well, you know that'll make you almost
Speaker 5: vomit too. Yeah, that's about as bad as a miss sometimes.
Speaker 2: Guarante you for sure. Are you pence points right now?
Speaker 2: Are you still hunting food sources or what's it look like?
Speaker 5: Oh, we've had a bumper acron crop this year. There's
Speaker 5: been more acrons on the ground than I've ever seen,
Speaker 5: which has a double edged sword if you ask me.
Speaker 5: It's good that they've got the food crop on the ground,
Speaker 5: but it's bad for patterning them because they will sit
Speaker 5: there and just meander around in an oak bottom with
Speaker 5: no potter in the bottom. So you know, it kind
Speaker 5: of makes it tough. We we had been in a
Speaker 5: drought until this last week, so you know, with what
Speaker 5: and mill do, and the acrons are getting rid of
Speaker 5: them in any fast fashion, and there's so many on
Speaker 5: the ground it's just crazy. So it's kind of been
Speaker 5: tough hunting the past few weeks just due to the
Speaker 5: fact to the acre that are all over the ground.
Speaker 5: I mean, they've got an unlimited food source there and
Speaker 5: they just love it. So they're not coming to your
Speaker 5: bait piles or your green fills or whatever near as much,
Speaker 5: and then you throw the rut activity in there, and
Speaker 5: there is surely no pattern in them. So basically it's
Speaker 5: just getting in a tree and spending some seat time
Speaker 5: and hoping it happens. Is a bowl hunter, I do
Speaker 5: not like the full rut, just because of the simple
Speaker 5: fact that you know you're limited with distance in these deer.
Speaker 5: Just everywhere you almost got a hope of dough runs
Speaker 5: up under you or whatever you know to make it happen.
Speaker 5: It's a rifle hunter's a little bit easier because you
Speaker 5: can reach out there and touch them. But I really
Speaker 5: hate the full rut, to be honest with you, just
Speaker 5: because of the fact that there's a lot of unpredictable
Speaker 5: stuff that goes.
Speaker 3: On so.
Speaker 2: Hard this next week is being that, then what do
Speaker 2: you expect going on this next week?
Speaker 5: I think the next this next week is going to
Speaker 5: be the full rut. Because I'm starting the past few days,
Speaker 5: I've started to really see the mature bucks get on
Speaker 5: their feet as far as visually myself and on camera,
Speaker 5: you're the bigger deer. More mature deer are making themselves
Speaker 5: more visible right now. So typically I look at the
Speaker 5: full rut starting. You know, when I start seeing these
Speaker 5: mature deer get on their feet and get out and
Speaker 5: start showing interest in dose, which I have been seeing
Speaker 5: the past few days.
Speaker 4: That's good. Man.
Speaker 2: So if you had to predict over the next week,
Speaker 2: which you kind of expect the buck movement to be
Speaker 2: like on be like on a scale of one ten,
Speaker 2: what would.
Speaker 3: You call it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna call it a I'm gonna call it a
Speaker 5: solid nine.
Speaker 3: That's high, brother, let's go.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you the the big deer on their feet
Speaker 5: right now. And as long as we don't get into
Speaker 5: that mid seventies temperature, I think it will be good. Uh.
Speaker 5: And I don't see the mid seventies temperatures coming back in.
Speaker 5: I think it's gonna lay in the sixties a little bit.
Speaker 5: And I think deer movement, as far as the rut
Speaker 5: goes this next week, it's gonna be what you would
Speaker 5: consider the full rut. Man.
Speaker 3: That's exciting times, dude. I appreciate that it is.
Speaker 2: It's a good time to be in the woods, man,
Speaker 2: And I hope you get you big in here this
Speaker 2: next week or.
Speaker 5: So, you and me both. I hope everybody gets a
Speaker 5: bit it's the greatest thing in the world, and it's
Speaker 5: the greatest time. Even though it's hard on a bowl
Speaker 5: hunter deer in the full rut, it's one of my
Speaker 5: favorite times to be in the woods because it's so exciting.
Speaker 5: You get to see a lot of action chasing bigger,
Speaker 5: mature deer and that sort of thing. So it's a
Speaker 5: great time. You's got to put in a lot of
Speaker 5: sleeep time to bear with it and swing from fences.
Speaker 2: That's it, man, you can't mess it with Michael. Really
Speaker 2: appreciate the time, dude, and get after him.
Speaker 5: We're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Listening to some Southern voices talking about some giant bucks
Speaker 2: gets me pumped. And that's what I need right now
Speaker 2: because I've been out on the dumps. But guess what
Speaker 2: empty it is misplaced. My feelings are misplaced because it
Speaker 2: is my fault. It is not the November's fault. It's
Speaker 2: not the deer's fault. They are out there to be had,
Speaker 2: so I gotta go. I gotta get them, and if
Speaker 2: you like to watch people, go get them. Young misel camera.
Speaker 2: Michael Stole just had a video go out where he
Speaker 2: is chasing some bucks and making some moves on buck betting,
Speaker 2: which I think is because he's from Ohio. We don't
Speaker 2: really do that in Texas, but Ohio. Man, he's all
Speaker 2: about him some buck bedding.
Speaker 6: Hey, you know you can translate it to what you do.
Speaker 6: You go, then just do it. You know that's right.
Speaker 3: Go check out that. It's on the Element YouTube page.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we were talking about how mid November
Speaker 6: is still a great time to hunt, right, so quit
Speaker 6: hanging your head and get out there and hunt. Tony
Speaker 6: Peterson agrees. He wrote an article on Wired to Hunt
Speaker 6: that says is mid November the best time to shoot
Speaker 6: him mature buck question mark. He goes on to explain
Speaker 6: why it might be, and in one of the recent
Speaker 6: articles Aaron Wired to Hunt also YouTube channel the Meat
Speaker 6: Eater YouTube channel. The season twelve, The whole, the whole thing,
Speaker 6: the whole thing is coming out on YouTube right now,
Speaker 6: so make sure you're subscribing.
Speaker 3: Even bigger than that.
Speaker 2: On the Media YouTube channel, you get to watch me
Speaker 2: shoot a big Nebraska buck from a hayebial blind.
Speaker 4: I check that out. Yeah, for sure, for sure, people
Speaker 4: would way rather watch it. Steve exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're kind of brothers.
Speaker 4: But I get it same shape, right.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, guys, we appreciate you tuning in. This has been rough. Fresh,
Speaker 2: Keep it fresh.