1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts, 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 2: Welcome to rot Fresh Radio. I'm your host, Casey Smith. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: And guess what. The rut is raging around the country. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: There are deer doing all kinds of deary things. However, 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: the weather is not cooperating. Will it affect the rut? 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: Let's see, this is rough Fresh. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: Let's go what has happened in all you woods people. 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: This is rough Fresh Radio being Beneto's brought to you 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 2: my first log gear. And I've been wearing the tar 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: on a first log gear because it's been cold and 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: it's been hot. 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: It's been everything in between. 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: I've got about seventeen pieces in my backpack right now. 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: Uh and uh that's good. Makes some backpack nice and full, 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: and you need that when you're hung on the ground. 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: You know. 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like your seat pad pretty much. 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: It's seventy six degrees in here and you have on 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: your first light puffy right now? 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 4: Is it really seventies? 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 5: I feel like it is. 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's it's kind of it's kind of warm. 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: Whenever you're talking to me on the phone today, Miscle's 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 4: in his Marino. 29 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: Well, Miscle, that's all he wore. 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: That's all there. What pieces that furnace furnace hoodie. That 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: thing was hot, dude, Listen, he was wearing it today. 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: When I was talking to you on the phone, I 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: stripped down to nothing but my Marino briefs because it 34 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: was so hot. 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 4: There were both way Merinos. Look at y'all. 36 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: It's right out there, the Marino Boys together, Marino banditdo 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: is up in here. 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: That's us. 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: So, uh, we've got some rough, fresh interviews today. I 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: don't know if y'all know this, but it's the month 41 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: of November and it's a big deal. Yeah, So these 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: are the big times, the good stuff to listen to. 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: We've got some crazy stuff talk about here in a bit. 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: But I believe that there's a good number of you 45 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: sitting there sad, quiet alone, just crying in your pillow 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: because it's after November tenth and the rut's over. 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: For the rest of your life is that the right tiler. 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: Is that right? No, Oh, my gosh, it's not. 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 6: No. No, listen, y'all. The rutt is raging right now. 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 6: It's raging. 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 4: You know what. Else, I'm gonna give you a little 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 4: bit optimism here. 53 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: I need it. 54 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 6: Once, I'm serious. Once I was talking to Greg about 55 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 6: this this morning. Once the doe, once the bucks have 56 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 6: made their rounds to all the family dough groups and 57 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 6: a lot of the does become bred, the bucks get 58 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 6: more active even or at least they're more visible. 59 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 4: Right. 60 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 6: So, in other words, this buck is still full of testosterone. 61 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 6: He's still mad at the world. He still thinks he's 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 6: got breeding rights to everything that walks right now. And 63 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 6: he also knows that there are a bunch of does 64 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 6: that are not in heat anymore or whatever not. They've 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 6: already been bred, and so he has to make these 66 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 6: rounds longer and longer and longer to find the dough 67 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 6: last does that aren't bred. And then eventually, in my opinion, 68 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 6: there's what a lot of people call the second rut, 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 6: which happens when a lot of times, when you know, 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 6: depending on buckdough ratios, if there wasn't something that was bred, 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 6: you know, a month later then it'll come back in 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 6: or for the six month old deer that are kind 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 6: of just becoming mature enough to do the thing right. 74 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 6: So there's a lot of hope involved right now. In fact, 75 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 6: I think a lot of guys would agree. But for 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: me in the Midwest, the Thanksgiving area has always been 77 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 6: a really good time for me in my opinion. I 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 6: actually one eyed jack. I shot that deer in twenty 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 6: fifteen and he was following a big mature dough on 80 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 6: Decemimber second. So there's there's great things that happen. That's 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 6: a as a Kansas deer, y'all. I mean, those these 82 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 6: are deer that behave like the quote unquote Midwest deer 83 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 6: that everybody thinks November seventh is the last day they 84 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 6: do anything right. So have hope, have hope that it 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 6: will it can happen. 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: I've talked to many killers, actually not just Tyler, who 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: say that they like the teens in November the best 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: for killing and likes this big mature deer. 89 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: I'm not. 90 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't personally have the experience of that to to 91 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: confirm or deny, but I can see where they out there. Yeah, 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: and you go find them and it works. One of 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: the things, honestly that at least in our neck of 94 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: the woods, that you could have going for you is 95 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: that the cover gets more sparse and the deer in 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: the open because you have frosts. So a lot of 97 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: the country gets the first frost between October twenty eighth 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: and November seventh, and that's going to cause leaves to fall. 99 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna cause the grass turn brown and die and 100 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: fall over and it and like, things can look a 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: lot different from Halloween to you know, November tenth, and 102 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: you can find visible deer ye, So get out there, 103 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: get your glass out if you hadn't. You know, there's 104 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: a lot of guys that kill big dogs that way. Well, 105 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: Chancey Walters, we you know friends the program Chancy Walters. 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: He kills big deer that way just putting eyes on him, 107 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: which element yeah okay, yeah, yeah. 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 109 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: By the way, check out the Only podcast if you hadn't, 110 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: that's our main show. We talk all about hunting tactics, 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: stories from our hunts, and we laugh a whole whole lot. 112 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: So if you like to be a part of fun things, 113 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: check that out. 114 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: But today we're gonna have some fun as well, because man, 115 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: I was responsible this week. Tyler has held it down. No, 116 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: I don't mean I'm responsible. I mean this just this week. 117 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Tyler's held it down all year while I've 118 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: been on these hunts, and now we're kind of swapping 119 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: rolls a little bit. He has some really cool hunts 120 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: that he's been going on. So I was the guy 121 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: who gathered guests this week, and it just so happens. 122 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: I got a lot of dudes on here that sound 123 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: kind of like me. Well, I have a relative, Isaac Smith. 124 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: He didn't sound like me, but he we're relatives. So yeah, 125 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: he's up there hunting in Michigan, had some success up there. 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: We have Patrick Paysinger. 127 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: Isaac's been successful in Michigan though. 128 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, apparently it's going down in Michigan. Yeah, well, 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: there you go. That's it. 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 4: It's calm in Texas, Kilam, Michigan. 131 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: Don't matter where the big numbers this week, guys, by 132 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: the way, so just wait some big numbers when it 133 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 2: comes to predictions. Patrick pay Singer from dead En Game 134 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: calls he is in Kansas right now hunting a giant. 135 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 136 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: Brennan Rhodes, my high school best friend, one of my 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: best friends of my life, has been in Old Mexico 138 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: hunting deer down there. Got an interesting report from some 139 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: giants that went down in Mexico. And then we've got 140 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: the real Pitts, Michael Pitts from Real Tree Road Trips, 141 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: the real one. He's the real one, the real deal. 142 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: He fakes on Brian Bostik, and Pitts has been hunting 143 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: in Georgia. And it's going down in Georgia right now 144 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: apparently too. And Pitts's gonna give us a lowdown on 145 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: all that country stuff. Apparently it's going down in Georgia 146 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: right now as well. 147 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: Man. I mean, it's mid November, right, The reports are 148 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: gonna be good. 149 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: Guys, don't expect anything terrible, right, but there are some 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: intricate details that just might help you kill the big bucks. 151 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: So let's get to these interviews. I have got my buddy, 152 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Isaac Smith. He has been hunting up in Michigan, chasing 153 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: the bucks around with some success. 154 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: Isaac, what's going on, Hey, how's it going? Man? Oh, 155 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: it's going pretty good. 156 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: Just trying to get some work done while I'm in 157 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: the middle of a hunt and dealing with you know, 158 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: hot temps and all that. 159 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: Well, how's it looking up there. 160 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 7: It's been pretty pretty good. 161 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 8: Yeah. 162 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 163 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,559 Speaker 7: A lot of active bucks in Michigan, that's for sure. 164 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: That's cool, man. I heard all the bucks got killed 165 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: in Michigan. 166 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: That's what people say, Like at one point five is 167 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: meture buck there, right. 168 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 8: You know, it seems to be the trend until this 169 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 8: time of year, and then they just start showing. 170 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 7: Up, you know. 171 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: So yeah that's cool man. 172 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I've been I've been fortunate. 173 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 8: I actually just moved to Michigan about two months ago, 174 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 8: so it's my first full season here, so it's all 175 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 8: new to me. But you know, yeah, I was able 176 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 8: to get a nice buck down and then I've seen 177 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 8: multiple other really nice nine to ten point type bucks 178 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 8: with good frames. 179 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know. 180 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 8: What the what all the the attitude about Michigan is about, honestly, 181 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 8: because I'm seeing great bucks here. 182 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean there's been some big ones killed there, 183 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: for sure. I think it's just a lot of hunters, 184 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: which translates to a lot of pressure. But there's a 185 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: lot of deer, so everybody gets to have fun. Yep, 186 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: for sure, what are those deer doing that you're seeing 187 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: come again, like the deer that you're that you had 188 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: success with, and the other bucks that you've seen around. 189 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: What are they doing are they are they doing a 190 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: bed to feed things still? Are they scraping or are 191 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: they chasing? 192 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 7: Dose? 193 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, they're scraping. They seem to be cruising. 194 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 7: I have not seen a single buck chasing all all fall, 195 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 7: so that seems a little weird to me. 196 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 8: I feel like, in you know, previous years, primarily being 197 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 8: in my home base of Wisconsin, you know, there'd be. 198 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 7: A lot of chasing by now. 199 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 8: But and I was in Wisconsin last week too, and 200 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 8: I did not see any chasing there either. 201 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 7: But as it was weird. 202 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 8: But yeah, a lot of bucks moving in the morning, 203 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 8: and it's it's kind of been like really warm mid 204 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 8: day around south central Wisconsin and Michigan, So I don't know, 205 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 8: mostly morning activity. 206 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 3: That's directly related to temperature. 207 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 7: I don't know. 208 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 8: I heard that the acorn crop has been just like 209 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 8: off the charts and it's keeping dear more local. I 210 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 8: don't know if that's something you've been hearing as well. 211 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: But around the country it seems to be the case. 212 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 2: I mean, it is in East Texas, I just talked 213 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: to Michael Pittson in Georgia. 214 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: He said the same thing. So it seems as if 215 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: that's that's what's going on. 216 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 7: That's pretty interesting. 217 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 8: I would have thought that just it being the rut 218 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 8: would kind of overrule all other factors. 219 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 7: Whether it's warmer, cold, or acorns or not or whatever. 220 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 8: But it's definitely, in my experience, the last couple of 221 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 8: weeks seem to be. 222 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 7: The least ruddy rut like that I've experienced. 223 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: That's weird, man. 224 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: Well, do you think that the just consistency that's on 225 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: the weather charts right now is going to help or 226 00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: hurt that? 227 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 8: I don't know. I've just I've been wround this whole 228 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 8: season so far, so I'm not sure what. 229 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: To expect, you know. Yeah, but yeah. 230 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 8: It's it's on these colder mornings like this morning, my 231 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 8: son and I were out, we had a couple a 232 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 8: couple of good Bucks come through, and then it just 233 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 8: kind of shut off, you know, by ten o'clock or so, 234 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 8: and that's just when the temperatures kind of spikes and 235 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 8: and we just kind of get bored. 236 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: So are y'all hunting like deep in cover or are 237 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 3: you doing the field edge thing. 238 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 7: It's a mix of both. 239 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 8: I got this property in Michigan that borders a golf course, 240 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 8: so I can see him out on. 241 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 7: The golf course. 242 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, but then we're back in the cover, 243 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 8: so they kind of you know, head back in these 244 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 8: cut trails and stuff. So true you can see them 245 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 8: coming before they hit the timber. So that's kind of yeah, 246 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 8: that is cool. Yeah, it's been fun, but no, not 247 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 8: not really doing the field edge thing, not so much. 248 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 249 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: So if you were to look ahead for the next 250 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 2: week and to rate the next week on a scale 251 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: of one to ten for buck movement, what would you call. 252 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 7: It, I'd say in Michigan that'd be like a eight. 253 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty good. Yeah. 254 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 7: I mean I've had. 255 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 8: Like a good shooters come through every set for the 256 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 8: last week, and it's kind of it kind of seems 257 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 8: to be just. 258 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: The frequency is kind of going up. 259 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 8: And I've got I've got one buck tag left here 260 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 8: in Michigan, so I'm I'm kind of saving it for 261 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 8: a special one. 262 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 7: But but the. 263 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 8: Opportunities, for sure, they're like, uh, they seem to be 264 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 8: cruising hard. Yeah, but again just like that, I don't know, 265 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 8: I don't see him dogging does. 266 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: Like so, well, who knows that point in time, you know, 267 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 2: like it is November and you gave it an eight. 268 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: So they're listening and they're going to cooperate. I think so. 269 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: I think that this is your week. 270 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 9: Man. 271 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: You're gonna fill that last buck tag on a giant 272 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: I hope. 273 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 8: So fire arms open tomorrow, So that's a wild card. 274 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. 275 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 7: Well I'm gonna just keep it up and try to 276 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 7: make it happen. 277 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: That's right. 278 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: Ride the roller coaster, man. I appreciate the report. You 279 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: bet on the phone. I have got my buddy Patrick 280 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 2: pay Singer from dead End Game Calls. I used to 281 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: call him Big Pat, but he's kind of medium Pat 282 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: these days. You've been slimming up Patrick. 283 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 10: Yes, I have had to keep over those kiddos. 284 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: I guarantee you, man, and keep up chasing them. 285 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: Deer. 286 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: You're up in Kansas right now. Actually we are sharing 287 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: a state at the moment. We're both in Kansas and 288 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: trying to find some big whitetail bucks. 289 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: You put in eyes on any. 290 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 9: Yes, sir, I am seeing a lot riding around. Been 291 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 9: just doing some road scouting in the mornings and seeing 292 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 9: them on their feet. 293 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guarantee you man. 294 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, different parts of the country 295 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: the rut looks different. And in Kansas, this later I 296 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: don't know if you call it later, but you know, 297 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: at least kind of middle of the rut seems to 298 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: really get them deer out running around. 299 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: Is that what you're seeing? 300 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's exactly what I say. It seems like. 301 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 9: The week leading into Thanksgiving is always the best in Kansas, 302 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 9: at least a part southeastern Kansas where I'm at, the 303 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 9: bigger boys get up closer, you get the Thanksgiving. 304 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And that's that's exciting too, because you know 305 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: sometimes people look at like once the first ten days 306 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: of November is over, it's like over. It's like, no, man, 307 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of good stuff going on right now, 308 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, yeah, So what are the deer really doing? 309 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: Are they targeting dough betting areas? Are they heading the 310 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: food or like, what do you say seeing bucks doing 311 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: right now? 312 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 9: What I'm seeing is a mixture of I'm seeing some 313 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 9: single mature bucks out with those out in the middle 314 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 9: of the pastures and the stage, and then I'm just 315 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 9: seeing loan cruisers, cruisies, ditches and fence rows looking for those. 316 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: Are you seeing big mature bucks doing that? 317 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just seems like the transition 318 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 9: right now from young immature bucks to mature bucks getting 319 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 9: on their feet this week. 320 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so is that you think that's is that weather related? 321 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Is it dates or what makes that happen? 322 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 10: I think it's dates. I think it would be even 323 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 10: better if it was a little bit cooler. 324 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking at a pretty pretty I wouldn't call 325 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: it bleak outlook, but it's just a very monotonous weather 326 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: pattern that we're in, you know, for the foreseeable future. 327 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: We're looking at similar dates, which I guess be good, right, 328 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if you got a pattern, they're going to 329 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: hold to it. 330 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 331 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, it is very stagnant weather. It's actually working really 332 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 9: good because I'm targeting a specific big mature buck and 333 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 9: he is not on a dough. He's going from betting 334 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 9: to feed and uh so it's better for me trying 335 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 9: to hunt one single buck of not having him chasing 336 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 9: and on a dough. 337 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: Right now, How are you getting the intel about this buck? 338 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 10: Trail cameras? 339 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're running cameras running celle cameras and getting 340 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: pictures of you having to go check cards or what 341 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: do you do with that? 342 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 10: No, I'm running a Browning cell phone camera. Yeah, and 343 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 10: it's it's. 344 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 9: Just outside the betting. They're they're coming from betting, hitting 345 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 9: some grain and then he's actually hitting a pond going 346 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 9: out to the big bean field and and where he's 347 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 9: hitting this, it's been right after shooting, and this this 348 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 9: morning he actually hit it going back into betting right 349 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 9: at shooting time. So I know he's betting close, and 350 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 9: I'm fixing to hit the woods and go after him. 351 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: Oh today, you're gonna go kill us deer today? Huh. 352 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 9: I hope the wind is right and I know he's 353 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 9: betty close, So I'm going in this afternoon after. 354 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: Him on one of those sets like that. 355 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: Are you trying to do pre hung sets or you 356 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: do you already have or you got your gear? You're 357 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: gonna go in and just kind of do running gunstop 358 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: top dealer, what are you doing? 359 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 9: Typically here I do running gun and use the cruiser saddle, 360 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 9: but here with limited trees, we do have a pre 361 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 9: hume set right there. 362 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, I mean it's it's being able to 363 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: run and guns good. 364 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: But having that pre pre hung set is a real quiet, 365 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: easy way to get in the tree and be pretty 366 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: comfortable too. 367 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 9: Exactly. 368 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: So what do you think the deer are going to 369 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: be doing? 370 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're gonna tag out tonight, so 371 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: you don't really have to know too much, right, But 372 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: if you were going to say, you know, for people 373 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: out there who are thinking about mey, you know, hitting 374 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: the road and heading over, they're kind of looking at 375 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: that weather out looking kind of I don't know, what 376 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: do you think that you're gonna be doing over the 377 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: next week. 378 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 9: I think starting Friday or Saturday here in the southeast. 379 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 10: It's going to go up. It's going to go up because. 380 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 9: I'm seeing it get down into the fifties is a 381 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 9: high north wind. So I think about Friday or Saturday, 382 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 9: we're going to see it kick even up. 383 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: Oo. 384 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: Man, that gets me excited to I have a tag 385 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: just burning a hole in my pocket because's kind of 386 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: like you, you know, I'm itching. So that's exciting stuff, dude. 387 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: I can't wait to get out there and get after 388 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: him with you. If you had to give it a 389 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: rating on a scale of one to ten for the 390 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: next week, for Buck movement. What would you call it, I'd. 391 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 9: Say it's going to go from a six to an eight. 392 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: Eights are good, dude, I like big eights especially. You know, 393 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: I'll take you away. Yeah, awesome, Patricause. That's great info, dude. 394 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, and I appreciate your friendship. 395 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: Man. I hope you kill a giant tonight. 396 00:18:51,680 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 10: Yes, sir, sounds good, brother, and I hope you do too. 397 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: On the throne, I've got East Texas finest Brennan Roads. However, 398 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: he has been down hunting Old Mexico. This is one 399 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: of my best friends of all time. 400 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Brendan. 401 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 2: What's going on, dude, Oh not much, man, not much. 402 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: Who you've been out caping deer? 403 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I had a friend of mine. 404 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 11: He killed a pretty good buck he's gonna get mounted, 405 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 11: and he asked. 406 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: Me to help him cape it out. So I went 407 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: and fellowship and skinned of deer. 408 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 5: Go Lee. 409 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: Man, you just a good buddy to have around, and 410 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: you got some good buddies that have decided to let 411 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: you go down to Old Mexico with him. 412 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: This is Mexico for our northern friends. 413 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 2: Uh. And you've been doing a little white til hunting 414 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: down there, Yes, sir, Yeah, Man, tell me about that. 415 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 3: What's it like down there? 416 00:19:55,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: It is amazing, very game rich environment, probably one of 417 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: the one of the top, one of the top hunts 418 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: that I've ever been on. 419 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: Man, that's cool. And you've been doing a lot of hunting. 420 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: I was with you and you killed your first elk, 421 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: and I mean it kind of hurts my heart a 422 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: little bit for you tell me that that's one of 423 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: the top hunts you've ever been on. But I would 424 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: assumed of the top hunts. Yeah, I've seen that's in 425 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 2: one of the top tiers there. They're sharing it, yeah, 426 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: for sure. So you've seen a lot of a lot 427 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: of deer down there then, huh. 428 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, uh a fair amount. I mean, you know, talking 429 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 11: to those guys, it was it was slow movement, but. 430 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: To my standard, it was it was pretty good. Yeah, 431 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: what's going on down there? Those deer eating agriculture? Are 432 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: they just living out in the wild or what do 433 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: they do? So where we're hunting there is uh, absolutely 434 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: no agriculture. It is uh it is just short brush canyons. 435 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 5: You know. 436 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 11: The terrain, it's got some pretty good terrain to it, Uh, 437 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 11: some canyon type stuff. 438 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: You know, I mean it's just it's wild country. What 439 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 3: state is that in Mexico or probably that's where they 440 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: call them khila. 441 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: All right, that's like that salt hot sauce on the 442 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: counter at the cafe, isn't it. 443 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: That's it, that's it. That's cool. 444 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: And so y'all are targeting these deer uh at water 445 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: you're feeding or what? 446 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: What's going on down there? 447 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 9: Uh? 448 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: We are, we are there. There are troughs you know 449 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: for the it is a operating cattle ranch. 450 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 451 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Uh they're so you know you can key off there. 452 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: There are no there is no natural pond water or 453 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: tank water. 454 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 11: Uh it is uh, it's all uh solar pumped and 455 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 11: fed down the water troughs. 456 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: I mean there are. 457 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: There are opportunities to hunt on the water and uh 458 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: also you know, uh this time of year, you know 459 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 2: there's the corner is effective. 460 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 11: But you know, as far as deer movement being slow, 461 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 11: it's they got a lot of rainfall this year and. 462 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: For November it was extremely green. 463 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: Got you, got you, and so whenever you're down there 464 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: in November right now, is it pre rut? 465 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 3: Like bachelor groups? 466 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: Are they separated making scrapes and doing the thing or 467 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: what's going on. 468 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 11: So we did, We did find scrapes, we did find 469 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 11: some fresh grapes, and uh that we were that. 470 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: We were, you know, running gun cameras. 471 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 11: This, that and the other, trying to locate different deer 472 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 11: that they seen in Velvet. And but as far as 473 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 11: right now, you know, pre rut, I mean it is. 474 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 11: I would say that it's probably on the cuff of 475 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 11: becoming pre rut. Like it's you might see you might 476 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 11: see a young deer try to try to bump a 477 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 11: dough around, but it's really not starting to kick there yet. 478 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: Got you? Got you? 479 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: So you actually shot you nasty down there, man. Congratulations 480 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: on that. It's pretty cool and it seemed like y'all 481 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: had a real good hunt. Is this kind of like 482 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: this cusp of the rut? Is that like the good 483 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: time to be there? 484 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 485 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, any time to be there is 486 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 11: a good time, you know. But I would say I've 487 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 11: never been there in December? 488 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah I do. I do one of these days. 489 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 11: Hopefully, Lord willing, I'll be able to make a December trip, 490 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 11: because about mid December. 491 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: They really are, they really are rutting hard. 492 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: Well, what do you think they're gonna do in to 493 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: hear in about the next week or so, you think 494 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna be kind of more of the same, or 495 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,959 Speaker 2: what's it gonna look like. 496 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. 497 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 11: I'm gonna say probably in the next couple of weeks, 498 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 11: you're probably gonna start if I had to guess, you know, 499 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 11: when I'm still a greenhorn from Mexico hunting. I've been 500 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 11: in January, I've been in November. But I really feel 501 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 11: like by the way I've seen some of the younger 502 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 11: deer act, I feel like that you're going to start 503 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 11: seeing more activity, you know, moving towards you know, checking 504 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 11: those and uh, you know what I call cruising. One 505 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 11: thing we did notice, we did see some We did 506 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 11: see some older deer start gaining some ground. As far 507 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 11: as territory, you know, it's a very vast you know, 508 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 11: the ranch that we were hunting is very big, and uh, 509 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 11: you know summertime, you know, they're they're kind of locked 510 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 11: down to their home turf. 511 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: We were seeing bucks. 512 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: My you know, upwards to two miles from where they were. 513 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 3: You know, getting pictures of them summertime on their feet. 514 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: That's cool. 515 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 5: Man. 516 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: So if you look forward for like the next week, 517 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: what do you expect the deer movement, the buck movement. 518 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 3: Excuse me to be like, on a scale of one 519 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 3: to ten. 520 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 11: I would say probably in the next week, you're probably 521 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 11: I'd say I'd probably rate it at six, all right, 522 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 11: And then as time goes on, of course, I feel 523 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 11: like that's really gonna start taking off. 524 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the roller coaster is starting to tick right getting 525 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: on up there. Well, that's cool, man, appreciate the report. 526 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: It's from a neat area of the country. I'm glad 527 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: you got to go down there, man, and it was 528 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: a blood really really appreciate you, man, absolutely. Now I've 529 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 2: got Michael Pitts, the real Pits or Pits as most 530 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: people just call him. And this dude's a killer from 531 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: all over the country from you can see him on 532 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 2: real tree road trips and right now he is in Georgia. 533 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: Michael, what's going on? Man? 534 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 5: Man, it's just enough a day in paradise this way 535 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 5: I call it to see it and everything else. 536 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 3: So that's good man. 537 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 5: I was glad to be here. 538 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: What's the temperatures running right now in your area? 539 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: Georgia temperatures right now, we've been kind of on a 540 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 5: roller coaster here lately a little bit it got real 541 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 5: cold and then it warmed up a little bit to 542 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 5: the mid seventies or so. It's falling back down the 543 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 5: past few days. So we're getting a lot better movement, 544 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: you know, right now. The colder weather always helps the 545 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 5: visibility as far as daytime and mature bucks go. So 546 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 5: we're dealing with about sixty five degree tempts right now 547 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 5: on the high and the lows are around forty to forty. 548 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 3: Five right now. Y'all still have leaves on the trees 549 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 3: or is all that cover gone? 550 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? No, we got leaves on the trees still. Now. 551 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: It's going pretty quick right now, but we've still got, 552 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: you know, a little bit of concealment left in the trees. 553 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 5: You know, it's not totally naked up there yet, but 554 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 5: it's on its way to being. We're probably at about 555 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 5: fifty percent right now. I would say, got you, got you. 556 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 5: And so you've been hunting Georgia quite a bit. What 557 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 5: are the deer really doing right now? 558 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: Are they pre rut or are they they starting to 559 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: get after it now? 560 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 5: They're starting to get after it right now. I would 561 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 5: say the past couple of weeks have been a good 562 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 5: pre rut phase to where you see a lot of 563 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 5: the younger deer chasing, but your mature deer not on 564 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 5: their feet yet. The past few days we've been seeing 565 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 5: a lot of mature deer on their feet, which is 566 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 5: a good thing and lets you know that the rut 567 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: is actually kind of starting to have. But it's just 568 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 5: not the young ones acting crazy. The temperature has affected 569 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 5: it a little bit. I mean, we were well on 570 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 5: our way to probably having an early rut and then 571 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: we had a temperature spike, which the temperature spikes, I 572 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 5: don't think that necessarily stops the rut. I think it 573 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: stops us from visually seeing it because they go more 574 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: nocturnal and they're. 575 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 3: Breeding at night and. 576 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 5: That sort of thing. But the colder weather lets us 577 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 5: allow visibility of it a little bit more because the 578 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: deer just on their feet and feeding more that sort 579 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 5: of thing. So the past couple of days have been 580 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 5: very good. We had an encounter with a mature deer 581 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 5: yesterday evening that was doing a lot of chase and 582 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 5: he came in typical right five minutes after shooting lights, 583 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 5: so we couldn't we couldn't put an air in him. 584 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 5: But he was standing thirty yards from me, you know, 585 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: and that's that well, you know that'll make you almost 586 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 5: vomit too. Yeah, that's about as bad as a miss sometimes. 587 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: Guarante you for sure. Are you pence points right now? 588 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: Are you still hunting food sources or what's it look like? 589 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 5: Oh, we've had a bumper acron crop this year. There's 590 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 5: been more acrons on the ground than I've ever seen, 591 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: which has a double edged sword if you ask me. 592 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 5: It's good that they've got the food crop on the ground, 593 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 5: but it's bad for patterning them because they will sit 594 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 5: there and just meander around in an oak bottom with 595 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 5: no potter in the bottom. So you know, it kind 596 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: of makes it tough. We we had been in a 597 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 5: drought until this last week, so you know, with what 598 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: and mill do, and the acrons are getting rid of 599 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 5: them in any fast fashion, and there's so many on 600 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: the ground it's just crazy. So it's kind of been 601 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 5: tough hunting the past few weeks just due to the 602 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 5: fact to the acre that are all over the ground. 603 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 5: I mean, they've got an unlimited food source there and 604 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: they just love it. So they're not coming to your 605 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 5: bait piles or your green fills or whatever near as much, 606 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 5: and then you throw the rut activity in there, and 607 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 5: there is surely no pattern in them. So basically it's 608 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 5: just getting in a tree and spending some seat time 609 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 5: and hoping it happens. Is a bowl hunter, I do 610 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 5: not like the full rut, just because of the simple 611 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 5: fact that you know you're limited with distance in these deer. 612 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: Just everywhere you almost got a hope of dough runs 613 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: up under you or whatever you know to make it happen. 614 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 5: It's a rifle hunter's a little bit easier because you 615 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: can reach out there and touch them. But I really 616 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 5: hate the full rut, to be honest with you, just 617 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 5: because of the fact that there's a lot of unpredictable 618 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 5: stuff that goes. 619 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: On so. 620 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: Hard this next week is being that, then what do 621 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: you expect going on this next week? 622 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 5: I think the next this next week is going to 623 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 5: be the full rut. Because I'm starting the past few days, 624 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: I've started to really see the mature bucks get on 625 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: their feet as far as visually myself and on camera, 626 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: you're the bigger deer. More mature deer are making themselves 627 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 5: more visible right now. So typically I look at the 628 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 5: full rut starting. You know, when I start seeing these 629 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 5: mature deer get on their feet and get out and 630 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 5: start showing interest in dose, which I have been seeing 631 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 5: the past few days. 632 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 4: That's good. Man. 633 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: So if you had to predict over the next week, 634 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: which you kind of expect the buck movement to be 635 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 2: like on be like on a scale of one ten, 636 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: what would. 637 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 3: You call it. 638 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna call it a I'm gonna call it a 639 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 5: solid nine. 640 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: That's high, brother, let's go. 641 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 5: I'm telling you the the big deer on their feet 642 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: right now. And as long as we don't get into 643 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 5: that mid seventies temperature, I think it will be good. Uh. 644 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 5: And I don't see the mid seventies temperatures coming back in. 645 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna lay in the sixties a little bit. 646 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: And I think deer movement, as far as the rut 647 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 5: goes this next week, it's gonna be what you would 648 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 5: consider the full rut. Man. 649 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: That's exciting times, dude. I appreciate that it is. 650 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: It's a good time to be in the woods, man, 651 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: And I hope you get you big in here this 652 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: next week or. 653 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 5: So, you and me both. I hope everybody gets a 654 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 5: bit it's the greatest thing in the world, and it's 655 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 5: the greatest time. Even though it's hard on a bowl 656 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 5: hunter deer in the full rut, it's one of my 657 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 5: favorite times to be in the woods because it's so exciting. 658 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: You get to see a lot of action chasing bigger, 659 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 5: mature deer and that sort of thing. So it's a 660 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 5: great time. You's got to put in a lot of 661 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 5: sleeep time to bear with it and swing from fences. 662 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: That's it, man, you can't mess it with Michael. Really 663 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: appreciate the time, dude, and get after him. 664 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 5: We're gonna do it. 665 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. 666 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: Listening to some Southern voices talking about some giant bucks 667 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: gets me pumped. And that's what I need right now 668 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: because I've been out on the dumps. But guess what 669 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: empty it is misplaced. My feelings are misplaced because it 670 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: is my fault. It is not the November's fault. It's 671 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: not the deer's fault. They are out there to be had, 672 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: so I gotta go. I gotta get them, and if 673 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: you like to watch people, go get them. Young misel camera. 674 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: Michael Stole just had a video go out where he 675 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: is chasing some bucks and making some moves on buck betting, 676 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: which I think is because he's from Ohio. We don't 677 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: really do that in Texas, but Ohio. Man, he's all 678 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: about him some buck bedding. 679 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 6: Hey, you know you can translate it to what you do. 680 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 6: You go, then just do it. You know that's right. 681 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: Go check out that. It's on the Element YouTube page. 682 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we were talking about how mid November 683 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 6: is still a great time to hunt, right, so quit 684 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 6: hanging your head and get out there and hunt. Tony 685 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 6: Peterson agrees. He wrote an article on Wired to Hunt 686 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 6: that says is mid November the best time to shoot 687 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 6: him mature buck question mark. He goes on to explain 688 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 6: why it might be, and in one of the recent 689 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 6: articles Aaron Wired to Hunt also YouTube channel the Meat 690 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 6: Eater YouTube channel. The season twelve, The whole, the whole thing, 691 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 6: the whole thing is coming out on YouTube right now, 692 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 6: so make sure you're subscribing. 693 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: Even bigger than that. 694 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: On the Media YouTube channel, you get to watch me 695 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: shoot a big Nebraska buck from a hayebial blind. 696 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: I check that out. Yeah, for sure, for sure, people 697 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 4: would way rather watch it. Steve exactly. 698 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're kind of brothers. 699 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 4: But I get it same shape, right. 700 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: Yep, yep for sure. 701 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: Well, guys, we appreciate you tuning in. This has been rough. Fresh, 702 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: Keep it fresh.