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Speaker 1: I tell you what? Bronco Country?
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, listen, do do me a favor. This is
Speaker 2: now what you're gonna have to do. This is the
Speaker 2: one game I wasn't able to see. This is the
Speaker 2: one game I wasn't able to watch because while they
Speaker 2: were playing, obviously I was giving my PEP talk to
Speaker 2: my team in the locker room, so I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Able to not we just want to talk to him anymore,
Speaker 1: not This is the.
Speaker 2: One game I couldn't see. But but you got there.
Speaker 2: You got to give me. Give me in context, what happened,
Speaker 2: how the game went, Why.
Speaker 1: They Broncos defense dominated? Okay, uh they sat Jalen hurt
Speaker 1: six times, six six times, go down?
Speaker 2: You talk about the sack Jayler hurt six times, with.
Speaker 1: Six times, Boddido got him two and a half times.
Speaker 1: Hold on with that officer line six times. We got
Speaker 1: the best. That front folk, that front folk, we got Yeah,
Speaker 1: get home, got home. Okayqwan had six carries for thirty yards.
Speaker 1: They had eleven rushes for forty five yards. So what
Speaker 1: they did is that they listened to y'all, man throw
Speaker 1: them all, throw them all, throw them all. That's not
Speaker 1: what they do. They throw when they want to, not
Speaker 1: when they have to. And even though they the Broncos
Speaker 1: let them get out there, they had a seventeen to
Speaker 1: three lead, Broncos said, now we're gonna shut y'all down.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give y'allno how many yards they have the
Speaker 1: second half, if you take that last drive out, because
Speaker 1: at one point I think they had like forty yards
Speaker 1: in the second half.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait,
Speaker 2: let me catch up, nacause you're talking too fast.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2: They had a seventeen three le. The Eagles had a
Speaker 2: seventeen three.
Speaker 1: Seventeen three. Let me tell you how comfety the Broncos were.
Speaker 1: They score lord and went for two?
Speaker 2: Did they get it?
Speaker 1: Got it? Eighteen seventeen? Then they kicked the field goal.
Speaker 2: Wait, so at what point if they were seventeen three
Speaker 2: did they get it?
Speaker 1: Was seventeen to three? They scoring a touchdown made it
Speaker 1: seventeen ten, scoring another touchdown, went for two to make
Speaker 1: it eighteen seventeen, stopped them, made them punt go three
Speaker 1: and out, got the ball back, drove down the field,
Speaker 1: kicked the field.
Speaker 2: Goal, so they got They went up seventeen three. Right
Speaker 2: the way they got up seventeen three. Was it on
Speaker 2: the ground and through the air or was a combination
Speaker 2: of read?
Speaker 1: They ran like a double move just on sa court
Speaker 1: sa quand motion out the backfield kind of made it
Speaker 1: like a double move on the line back of where
Speaker 1: he ran out of the back swung, got the backfield
Speaker 1: and made like a double move beat the linebacker for
Speaker 1: a forty seven yard touchdown. H Dallas guard that caught one.
Speaker 1: You know. They run that zone read and then the
Speaker 1: tight end like he's gonna block, but he goes slides
Speaker 1: to the flag out a couple of times. But it
Speaker 1: wasn't really nothing. I mean, no big plays. Man. I
Speaker 1: was watching aj Brown, Yes, sir, man ad ran a
Speaker 1: slant under and a slug. That's the only thing I
Speaker 1: saw him running.
Speaker 2: He didn't run the curl.
Speaker 1: He run the curl to a slag or under and
Speaker 1: a slug.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. And we had. Look, they taken advantage of
Speaker 1: Riley Moss. Riley Moss, what I mean, most of the
Speaker 1: yards came on Riley Moss. He gave up a deep
Speaker 1: play the Davante and whoever else. But hey, but you
Speaker 1: know number two.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody getting nothing on him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got something on it me. They ran aj
Speaker 1: on the under yet he kind of picked because you
Speaker 1: know he started out there and then Smitty running the
Speaker 1: rubs and so he had to fight through that. But
Speaker 1: what nothing happened? I was I was surprised how many
Speaker 1: times they sacked him. Le Bronco sacked Jalen Hurd six
Speaker 1: times and batted down nine of his thirty eight passes.
Speaker 1: Benito led the way with two and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: He had six sacks in the past three games. He
Speaker 1: leaves the league if I'm not mistaken, with seven. The
Speaker 1: Eagles managed just forty two yards in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: That's including that drive, right, that's including that drive at
Speaker 1: the end of the game.
Speaker 2: Forty forty two yards in forty two what do you
Speaker 2: what do you think they should have done better? Should
Speaker 2: they They should have should have played Broncos.
Speaker 1: They should have put the Broncos on the schedule, that's
Speaker 1: what they should have done. Then let's start with that.
Speaker 2: Hold On, I'm trying. I'm trying to understand. What is
Speaker 2: it that the Eagles didn't do that. They didn't do that.
Speaker 1: If you watched the Broncos Monday night, what they did
Speaker 1: to your team, they did worse. They did worse to
Speaker 1: them Eagles as far as bum rushing them.
Speaker 2: Right, But you have to understand, my team is handicapped,
Speaker 2: so there's a reason why your Broncos beat us.
Speaker 1: So well, what was the Eagles excuse cause we did
Speaker 1: it to them? Two?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's not get beside ourselves. Now, that's not just
Speaker 2: Sortland Sudden. Courtland Sutton was mosting your guy quinn Yon
Speaker 2: Mault to get it at hold On, he mosting you
Speaker 2: show any kind of way I gotta see. I gotta
Speaker 2: see the film.
Speaker 1: Do you watch it?
Speaker 2: I gotta see the all twenty two to get it.
Speaker 1: Sudden He follows Sudden around.
Speaker 2: The whole game. Yeah, okay, well listen, what's what's gonna
Speaker 2: happen is when you have games like this keyon mention
Speaker 2: right now on the way he playing, the way he's
Speaker 2: played the first three four weeks. Whatever it is I
Speaker 2: forgot a week four?
Speaker 1: Right, week five?
Speaker 2: Okay, we we we five? His first four weeks, that
Speaker 2: young bull young bullets is in the conversation for top
Speaker 2: five this early, this early in his career. He's very good.
Speaker 2: He's very talented, y'all.
Speaker 1: He's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I hate to do comparison, but if I'm
Speaker 2: gonna compare key On Minchell to somebody on the field,
Speaker 2: he's just like goddamn Denzel Ward. Damn there from a
Speaker 2: technical standpoint in the old position to make a play.
Speaker 2: So if Courtland Sudden did have eight for eight for
Speaker 2: ninety nine, the women maybeen maybe because jump ball would
Speaker 2: be his strength and that would yeah, that wouldn't be
Speaker 2: Kean Missus strength because that advantage goes to Courtland Sunton,
Speaker 2: who is the taller, bigger individual. But listen, he can
Speaker 2: lose a game. He can lose a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. But but see now,
Speaker 1: now AJ can get their attention. Yeah. You see when
Speaker 1: we when we have to throw and they know we
Speaker 1: have to throw, it's a different ball game, you see.
Speaker 1: Every Oh no, bro, people ain't gonna let sa Quan
Speaker 1: go crazy like he went last year. You know uh uh,
Speaker 1: Dickerson is in and out of the lineup where you
Speaker 1: know he got hurt, had the surge, you got nicked again.
Speaker 1: He's out your right guard, Makay Becton. He left with
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Lane Johnson been dealing with stuff all year long,
Speaker 1: so he hasn't kind of been the Lane Johnson that
Speaker 1: we used to see. That's not the that's not the
Speaker 1: same Eagles lineup, and so the uh what started at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. They taking their lumps and bruises.
Speaker 1: They're taking some mumps right now. They sacked both twice.
Speaker 1: But I thought I thought overall he played well. He
Speaker 1: missed the throw here there. It looks he's only in
Speaker 1: his second year. But to go on the road and
Speaker 1: do that u in a hostile environment to the team
Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl last year, the Broncos had
Speaker 1: to be They have to feel really good about what
Speaker 1: they were able to do today. They like if I'm
Speaker 1: Sean paying them saying, see, this is what we're capable
Speaker 1: of doing. We we don't have to take a back
Speaker 1: seat to anybody. When we have a great week of practice,
Speaker 1: when we pay attention to details, when we take care
Speaker 1: of what we're supposed to take care of clean game,
Speaker 1: no turnovers. We can go, we can go on the road,
Speaker 1: or we can be anybody anywhere at any time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: I listen. What I wouldn't do is that, what I
Speaker 2: wouldn't get too high up from my bridges. You know.
Speaker 2: Don't count your chicken before you don't. Don't couch your
Speaker 2: egg before. Don't catch a chicken before the egg you said,
Speaker 2: you said out of.
Speaker 1: Saying, don't count your chicken before they hatch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. Yeah, yeah, don't do that, y'all. Y'all want
Speaker 2: to y'all want already hatch. Listen, y'all, y'all, y'all get
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl champs. But when it comes time when
Speaker 2: we talk about after Thanksgiving, when real football season starts,
Speaker 2: we talk about playoff football, are y'all still gonna be
Speaker 2: in the chase?
Speaker 1: Y'all know who won't y'all won't be listen, First of all,
Speaker 1: who is y'all we talked about?
Speaker 2: We talked about the Broncos.
Speaker 1: We see where we are. You'll see what we are with, y'all, y'all.
Speaker 2: Two and three? Who told you that don't with y'all
Speaker 2: three and two better than y'all whatever, whatever y'all are?
Speaker 2: We not okay, Okay, I don't know what we are.
Speaker 2: I don't know what we are off the top of
Speaker 2: my head. We are what y'all are. So let me
Speaker 2: tell you something. Are you excited? You excited? Where you
Speaker 2: all at right now? You you're happy about today's win?
Speaker 1: Everything I told you? I said, don't show y'all will
Speaker 1: y'all first two games and y'all losing the next three?
Speaker 2: Chat?
Speaker 1: Did I tell him that?
Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on, this is what you're not gonna do. This,
Speaker 2: this is what we're not gonna do. See in the chat.
Speaker 2: Should have a better understanding for me. For me, I
Speaker 2: have to My faith is always gonna lie with my bang.
Speaker 2: Would you hear me? If I cut myself right now,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bleed orange and black. See that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: So I understand. I understand that you understand as well,
Speaker 2: our chances of continuency and winning games, our quarterback playing
Speaker 2: he's out. He's out now, I know he's out. But
Speaker 2: I still have to keep my faith and my love
Speaker 2: and my allegiance to my team. Unlike most people. When
Speaker 2: the quarterback goes down, they like to jump ship.
Speaker 1: What it's your right there? When they when they when
Speaker 1: they're going to win another game? When day? When day?
Speaker 1: When they're going to win another game?
Speaker 2: Birth if there was any more time on the clock.
Speaker 2: Whenever we get to that game, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: When we get to that game, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Boy, y'all could have played another y'all could have played
Speaker 1: another four quarters. They should have. You better be glad
Speaker 1: that they took a knee.
Speaker 2: Hey be careful, because we played another four quarters, we
Speaker 2: might have come back and won that game.
Speaker 1: They could have played till tomorrow, and y'all still wouldn't
Speaker 1: winning that game.
Speaker 2: You don't do that. You saw, yeah, you saw you
Speaker 2: saw number six and the number one, and they they started,
Speaker 2: they started getting that chemistry. They started, they started to
Speaker 2: get going. You saw that, right, And we are not
Speaker 2: high schools? Hold on? Are we are we on? Are
Speaker 2: we on the game?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Are we on the on the wait on the man?
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody talking about no bingles? Right now? We got
Speaker 1: other good games to talk about. We talk about the bombs.
Speaker 2: Let me know I'm about.
Speaker 1: To get okay, I'll let you know right now. You
Speaker 1: don't know, so I ain't let you know. So you
Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, you no good guy here, How y'all
Speaker 1: do it? Chat?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey, hey, hey you and you show and you show.
Speaker 2: It's happy about that? Goddamn that got damn? Oh whoa, whoa?
Speaker 2: I mean, what happened? Don't you got it to do?
Speaker 2: That's you always, that's you. Always praise, you always hoop
Speaker 2: and all about me.
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa? Oh Joe, this is so unnecessary. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just oh my gosh, why listen.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, calm down, and you mighty happy boy
Speaker 2: the Bronco but we still got the team that you claimed.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on? Chat, I really don't.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, don't worry about it. We'll get to it.
Speaker 2: What's the next game? Were talking about it?
Speaker 1: It's not that serious, guy, it's not that serious.
Speaker 2: It's serious. It's serious. Pull out Sharaba's helm in that.
Speaker 1: Whoa. We discussing the Bronco. We talked about Bronco Country.
Speaker 2: We talked, Hey, that game is over, let's talk about Saraba.
Speaker 1: Whoa damn? Okay, not a j Brown, but DeVonta Smith
Speaker 1: had plenty to say about Jalen Hurts lack of communication
Speaker 1: after the team's first lost There are times we're looking
Speaker 1: at him and he may give a signal before we
Speaker 1: are or after we look at Ultimately, we have to
Speaker 1: be on the same page. We have to see that
Speaker 1: signal no matter what. It's just the little things within
Speaker 1: the routes. He may have seen something pre snap and
Speaker 1: sometimes we didn't see it. Hurt said doesn't remember any
Speaker 1: of those things happening, and that he likes to have
Speaker 1: to talk to Smith to see what he's referencing. Ojo first,
Speaker 1: it was AJ Now de Vonte Smith. Are you surprised that?
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, Oh, Joe, Now, this is not
Speaker 1: a situation where Davonte and AJ Smith the first year
Speaker 1: of players. Jayleen Hurst is the first year player. They've
Speaker 1: been together for three years. This this what whatever he's referencing,
Speaker 1: and we don't know Jayleen Hurst say, I don't know
Speaker 1: what he's talking about, but whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: there should not be miscommunication at this level and this
Speaker 1: time of the year with those three especially.
Speaker 2: Not a year three two. Now, this is one of
Speaker 2: the things that a lot of Eagles fans and I
Speaker 2: would love Eagle fans understand. Listen. As receivers, you know,
Speaker 2: they love the user's moniker. Oh he's a diva. Oh
Speaker 2: he's selfish. No, all players, all players want to be
Speaker 2: able to contribute on Obviously, the winning is good, and
Speaker 2: you have a formula and the way you win, in
Speaker 2: the way you do things, that is the Eagles success.
Speaker 2: That's the success. Obviously. The players, especially your one A
Speaker 2: and your one B, they want to contribute and they
Speaker 2: want to be part of that. The fact that they
Speaker 2: run the ball so much. When it is time to throw,
Speaker 2: you want everything to be as perfect as possible, and
Speaker 2: it just hasn't been that. So the communication in which
Speaker 2: A J and Devonte Smith and General Hurst might be
Speaker 2: lacking because that's not the focal point of the offense.
Speaker 2: It's not the focal point of offense. So there might
Speaker 2: be some great areas in that area that are never
Speaker 2: really addressed because that's not the way they do things
Speaker 2: in general. But listen, I think it's something that they
Speaker 2: would get fixed. I think it's something that they will
Speaker 2: get fixed. Stuff like this it shouldn't be it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be out, It shouldn't be said publicly because it should
Speaker 2: be handled internally, but the fact that their focal point
Speaker 2: is always we're the type of team We're gonna run
Speaker 2: the ball first. We were about everything else. If the
Speaker 2: run doesn't work and we have to abandon it, which
Speaker 2: were I think that that's what they disconnected.
Speaker 1: Is I me personally? Me personally? Oh yo? I think
Speaker 1: Davante was trying to help Jalen by saying there was
Speaker 1: some miscommunication, because there's no miscommunication. This is some bood diggity.
Speaker 1: So he was saying, you know what, maybe we missed
Speaker 1: the maybe we missed a signal or something that he
Speaker 1: saw something that we didn't see. Maybe, But if it's
Speaker 1: just now, we just look this bad. They look bad
Speaker 1: o yoe. They did. There are stretches there where they
Speaker 1: look I was like, well, damn, did y'all practice that bad? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hold on, you said, did they practice and they look
Speaker 2: bad when it can?
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean there are stretches where they that bad
Speaker 1: that you that I questioned whether or not they had been.
Speaker 2: Practicing when it comes to the passing game. You mean, yes, yes, okay, but.
Speaker 1: Teams are not gonna let them run ojo.
Speaker 2: You see.
Speaker 1: And I said this, people think the way you win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl one year, you're gonna exactly come back
Speaker 1: and win it. No, they're not letting sa Quan run
Speaker 1: for one fifty one seventy five two hundred like he
Speaker 1: did last year. Every game we come every after every
Speaker 1: game Eagles game, Ojo, we coming here. Sa Quan did
Speaker 1: something spectacular? Did man? Saquan hit it head on the
Speaker 1: goal post from eighty sa Quan hit it? Wait?
Speaker 2: I got a question. Yes, if teams aren't allowing Saquon
Speaker 2: Barkers to run, obviously I'd better shoot it to to
Speaker 2: talk about this game. This a one game I wasn't
Speaker 2: able to watch. But if they're not allowing Saquon to
Speaker 2: run and the front four and not gonna be able
Speaker 2: to stop him, you got to bring a safety down
Speaker 2: in the goddamn box in order to do that. It's
Speaker 2: one on one on the outsides. Yesh, it wouldn't be any problem.
Speaker 1: But you know what, Ojo, when you really look at it,
Speaker 1: if you really look at Philly's offense, it's really simplistic. Yes,
Speaker 1: really simplicit.
Speaker 2: The game of football is simple. You don't have to
Speaker 2: over coach it, you don't have to over complicate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you look at you but you look at
Speaker 1: you look at how I give you an example. You
Speaker 1: look at how the Lions, how they put their players
Speaker 1: in position to succeed. You look at some of the
Speaker 1: other offensive coordinators and how they put their players. Bro,
Speaker 1: you just running under you running slants. You're running slugs.
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, Yeah, but listen, you think about the
Speaker 2: Lions offense and then you look at the offense of
Speaker 2: the Eagles. The Eagles went in a very simplistic form.
Speaker 1: Yestivity in the Lions, you won in a simplistic form.
Speaker 1: The likelihood you're gonna have to complicate. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to get a little bit more complicated.
Speaker 2: Now, a little bit more creative, yes, creative, yes, But listen,
Speaker 2: the goddamn Lions when it comes to their creativity offensively,
Speaker 2: it's a lot more complex, especially when you when you
Speaker 2: watch them from the outside. They do a little bit
Speaker 2: of everything they do and you never you never know
Speaker 2: what's coming. You never know what's coming. That's not that's
Speaker 2: not the makeup, and that's not the DNA of the
Speaker 2: Eagles and the never half.
Speaker 1: No, they're not. But I think in order for them
Speaker 1: to get back where they want to be, o Jo,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to open up this play book. They're
Speaker 1: gonna have to open up. They're gonna have to trust
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurst to throw the ball and not when they
Speaker 1: get behind. I listen, I don't think they want him
Speaker 1: to throw the ball thirty eight times. I know that
Speaker 1: for certain.
Speaker 2: That's not them.
Speaker 1: That's that's not their recipere Ojo eleven carries. They had
Speaker 1: eleven rush attempts. Saquan, who you paying twenty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, had six rush attempts.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, hold on all on. So you're saying
Speaker 2: they have been in the run too early.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get anything running, Okay, so you had no
Speaker 1: choice but to throw. But now, but see we know that.
Speaker 1: See when Saquan is running, You're like, damn, what are
Speaker 1: they gonna do?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna run it? Are they gonna throw it?
Speaker 1: We really don't know. Well, they can't run the football
Speaker 1: with Saqui. They hadn't been able to run all year.
Speaker 1: They got really lucky in the Rams game and AJ
Speaker 1: that that that Jalen and Age they got on the
Speaker 1: same page as AJ got hot and boom. But they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna have They're gonna have to be better.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to be better than this.
Speaker 2: A J.
Speaker 1: Brown getting eight targets for five catches and forty three
Speaker 1: yards and two for eleven And that ain't gonna cut it.
Speaker 1: That ain't gonna cut.
Speaker 2: It because they not because the running game is not
Speaker 2: successful as it was last year. Okay, yeah, yep, damn.
Speaker 1: But uh we just put we put you know, put
Speaker 1: foot center. Let them know what time it was. Speaking
Speaker 1: of disappointing teams, is there any more disappointing team than
Speaker 1: your Bangles?
Speaker 2: Whoa?
Speaker 1: Whoa?
Speaker 2: Wait? Hold on? Why we hold why? Why were going
Speaker 2: to the Bangle game? The rail o'clock?
Speaker 1: That's okay?
Speaker 2: The Ray the Ravens played at one o'clock.
Speaker 1: Y'all played, We go, We we started from we start
Speaker 1: and work our way back. You remember how to say
Speaker 1: we did that?
Speaker 2: Oh that's what we're doing. Yep, okay, Well go ahead.
Speaker 2: Let let's let's talk about let's talk about my mom?
Speaker 2: Oh whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: I mean you do an awful lot of talking for
Speaker 1: a team that got beat by thirteen.
Speaker 2: Wait by who?
Speaker 1: Jared Golf was nineteen of twenty three. That means he
Speaker 1: had four incompletions chat two hundred and fifty eight yards,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns.
Speaker 2: Damn three.
Speaker 1: David Montgomery even threw a touchdown. So in the actuality
Speaker 1: of there was twenty or twenty four two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty four sixty one yard four tubs zero I in t's.
Speaker 2: Hey, can I can I tell you something real quick?
Speaker 1: Hey? I've been went home, He went home.
Speaker 2: They went home. Hey, listen, he came home and showed out.
Speaker 2: He came home and showed out. But let's let's understand
Speaker 2: something for one before I even start me. I got
Speaker 2: a chance to see Kirby, I got to see Jamo,
Speaker 2: I got to see Aman Ross, Saint Brown, got to
Speaker 2: see Terry on Arno before the game. You know, I
Speaker 2: exchanged some pleasures with them boys, you know, and hoping
Speaker 2: and w we would have had a better showing than
Speaker 2: what we did. That's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: Now you had the showing that you have.
Speaker 2: Listen, Jake Brown and Hunk. We are not a good
Speaker 2: enough team. We are not a good enough team to
Speaker 2: overcome three tone overs. We're not a good enough team.
Speaker 2: We got to be able to protect the ball. We
Speaker 2: got to be a protective ball. God, damn Jamar, Chase,
Speaker 2: Chase Brown, Pete Ryan or they thought they thought they
Speaker 2: do you know what off? They thought that you know
Speaker 2: what off to find ways to make played. Jake Brian
Speaker 2: and running for his life, uh for the majority of
Speaker 2: the game and trying to make something out of nothing.
Speaker 2: He did his best. Chase did his best. I would
Speaker 2: love for us to get everyone else involved. I would
Speaker 2: love for us to get everyone else involved. We have
Speaker 2: to do a better line, a better job up front.
Speaker 1: Unk.
Speaker 2: We got to do a better job up front. Jake
Speaker 2: brin and running around for his life is one of
Speaker 2: the reasons why Joe Burrow's hurt. I'm not saying them
Speaker 2: names and not calling them names. For those who were
Speaker 2: able to watch the game, you understand that you understand
Speaker 2: that we did the best we could as a team. Defensively,
Speaker 2: I thought we played well. I thought we played well. Basically,
Speaker 2: you gave up thirty seven. Yeah, listen, listen. We gave
Speaker 2: up thirty seven to a team that's probably ranked number
Speaker 2: maybe one, number one.
Speaker 1: They took a knee on the ten yard line.
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to listen. You don't want
Speaker 2: to be disrespectful to us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to be disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, they won the game. It's a good team.
Speaker 1: But again, I want to be openly and blatantly disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, listen. It was a great win for the Lions.
Speaker 2: It was a great win for the Lions. I had
Speaker 2: a great time meeting many Lions fans. You know this
Speaker 2: past three days. I salute y'all. I love you. It's
Speaker 2: nothing but mutual respect. With the trash talk that we
Speaker 2: were doing. But as you know, my faithful, my faithfulness,
Speaker 2: and my allegiance will always lie here. It will always
Speaker 2: lie with this. And I got to talk. I got
Speaker 2: to talk, and we lost a day and I buy
Speaker 2: my head with grace, and y'all won the game. And
Speaker 2: it's nothing beloved, it's nothing beloved.
Speaker 1: But it ain't no love. It is a better hatred. No,
Speaker 1: it ain't all terrible.
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, get.
Speaker 1: All that talking now, look at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's okay, listen. I can sit here and
Speaker 2: say we lost.
Speaker 1: And I bet changed with the dB In high school too,
Speaker 1: he could tackle. He had three tackles in.
Speaker 2: The look at one point, Chase leading leading in tackles
Speaker 2: on that when I know that he playing on offense.
Speaker 2: That's okay. I have a question for you, UNC and Chad.
Speaker 2: I have a question for y'all too. Do you think
Speaker 2: I love I love Zach Taylor. I love Zach Taylor,
Speaker 2: and I hate that people are saying, oh, the coach
Speaker 2: needs to be fired and all this. Listen, it don't
Speaker 2: matter who you're bringing them. Goddamn you can have Jesus coaching,
Speaker 2: but when Jesus called them plays, it's our job to
Speaker 2: execute him. It's eleven people out there on the field.
Speaker 2: For one ain't running no offense. She ain't running no
Speaker 2: goddamn offense. And if he ain't, got nobody blocking for
Speaker 2: whoever at the quarterback position. We can start there. That
Speaker 2: ain't got shit to do with Zach Taylor. We can
Speaker 2: start there. But do you think do you think we
Speaker 2: need to make a move and go get another quarterback?
Speaker 2: I just want to know, because we only to where
Speaker 2: you gonna get him from Amazon?
Speaker 1: Cause you talking, you talking like they got one that
Speaker 1: you can order from Amazon and they give it to.
Speaker 2: You to day. If you get him next day, listen,
Speaker 2: you know the game. You know the game. I know
Speaker 2: the game. When yes, like this, do you want to
Speaker 2: salvage the season, in some in some, in some.
Speaker 1: No, you're not going savage. Nothing on Joe. Y'all gonna
Speaker 1: be done by things. If y'all be done, y'all will
Speaker 1: be done by Halloween. Oh listen, y'all is not coming
Speaker 1: back this year.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Joe coming back. I'm saying getting
Speaker 2: someone in there at the quarter of or position that
Speaker 2: can facilitate the ball and protect it at the same time.
Speaker 1: No, that's all why they still sticking with me. I
Speaker 1: don't know who you're back up with the Jake Browning,
Speaker 1: but I don't believe you're bringing somebody off the street.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. Over the last three games, you guys have
Speaker 1: been outscored one thirteen to seven. The seventy six point
Speaker 1: differential narrowly missed the record eighty worst three games, stretching
Speaker 1: franchise history. Bengals have three other quarterbacks on the roster,
Speaker 1: Brett Rippen who played for the Broncos, Mike White, who
Speaker 1: played for the He played for the Jets and the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and Sean Clifford on the practice squad. Jake Browning threw
Speaker 1: three touch interceptions and he had three touchdowns in garbage time.
Speaker 1: They don't mean nothing. Brianni was booed after several drives
Speaker 1: in the first half. At one part he was booed,
Speaker 1: and he led the offense as he led the offense
Speaker 1: on the field. Browning had thrown has thrown eight interceptions
Speaker 1: in four games.
Speaker 2: So you heard what you just said. He's thrown eight
Speaker 2: interceptions the four games and you still think there's not
Speaker 2: a quality backup that's on another team. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say no names that can come in and.
Speaker 1: Get no as he knows your offense the best, your
Speaker 1: offensive line. That still they have an address, I mean
Speaker 1: they haven't address that.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And your defense now good. I granted that you you
Speaker 1: know you turn the ball over three times a day,
Speaker 1: three but do you go back and look at over
Speaker 1: the last but tell I mean the Broncos beat the
Speaker 1: breaks off, y'all. The team before that beat the breaks off. Y'all. Y'all.
Speaker 1: Defense isn't any good. I mean, I wish I could
Speaker 1: give it to and say make it better, but I can't. Y'all,
Speaker 1: defense aren't Your defense isn't very good. And when your
Speaker 1: defense isn't good, and because Harry is the thing, your
Speaker 1: defense is the worst part of your team. Your offense
Speaker 1: is bad and turning the ball over. So the worst
Speaker 1: part of your team is playing the most. The last
Speaker 1: thing that you want, O Joe. You want the best
Speaker 1: part of your team to play the most. You want
Speaker 1: your offense to be on the field. Now your offense
Speaker 1: is turning the ball over, putting the worst part on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 2: I don't you know what? You know? What can I
Speaker 2: take something? Yes, I don't like the way you worded that.
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm just saying I don't like the way
Speaker 2: you worded that. I think. I think. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say we're gonna be all right, y'all not let
Speaker 2: me finish, Let me finish, Let me have a little faith,
Speaker 2: Let me let me have a little faith. Okay, we
Speaker 2: got to have better quarterback play. The fact that you know,
Speaker 2: Joe was out for us to even have a chance
Speaker 2: to be able to compete every Sunday. No matter who
Speaker 2: the hell we plan, we can't turn the ball over.
Speaker 1: Y'all can't trade for Andy Dalton.
Speaker 2: Uh huh? Where Andy at?
Speaker 1: We're Indy at Carolina.
Speaker 2: No, we need a gunslinger. We need a gunslinger. Somebody
Speaker 2: that's that that's gonna, that's gonna let that thing. Rip
Speaker 2: you hear me, somebody read that, someone that that is experienced,
Speaker 2: that has veteran presence. Okay, now we're talking.
Speaker 1: Now you say you somebody to let it real. Jamie's
Speaker 1: gonna throw now now now we're talking. Now here's the thing,
Speaker 1: O Joe, talk to him. You're gonna have three touchdown passes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he gonna have three other sceptions tonight he gonna throw.
Speaker 1: He gonna throw for three three fifty, four hundred.
Speaker 2: Four hundred, he gonna throw. But just so you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, listen, I love you.
Speaker 1: Remember that game last year against the Broncos for ninety
Speaker 1: seven we had three pigs in the football.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm saying, what you would you rather us
Speaker 2: us having Jamis or having someone at the quart of
Speaker 2: position that can that can give us four ninety seven
Speaker 2: or five hundred years passing and at least.
Speaker 1: Have usure Chasing Higgins would like that. I said, I'm
Speaker 1: sure Chasing Higgins would like that. Somebody's gonna throw the balls,
Speaker 1: yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: So if we're gonna have a chance, if you say
Speaker 2: our defense is bad, if we're gonna have a chance,
Speaker 2: we gotta throw the kitchen sink Oh, well, we can
Speaker 2: salvage in this season. We're just two and three NW.
Speaker 2: We just took three. You never knew, you know, you
Speaker 2: never knew what happened. If I'm not I was thinking
Speaker 2: we second in division? Yeah, yeah, we second in division.
Speaker 2: Now we have time.
Speaker 1: But I don't think but given the circumstances in this division,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's only one team going out of
Speaker 1: the division. Now. It might be a situation where you
Speaker 1: get three teams out of the AFC West, the Broncos,
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: So what you are? You just are you?
Speaker 1: But think about it? Oho, you got you gotta look
Speaker 1: at you gotta look at the AFC South Jacksonville. That's
Speaker 1: one game ended lost one game. You saw the Texans
Speaker 1: win today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who the Texas beat today?
Speaker 1: Man, Texas beat There you go, you try to Texas
Speaker 1: be today? You know who that beat today?
Speaker 2: I got?
Speaker 1: I Gotgomery scored a touchdown in the same game for
Speaker 1: the fourteenth time, eyeing an NFL record.
Speaker 2: Hey, can I tell you something?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 2: You know, can I tell you something? You notice your
Speaker 2: first time the Lions the Bengals in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: Two, it won't be the last time.
Speaker 2: Because I ain't never I ain't never lost to him.
Speaker 1: Y'all have probably an't never played the Lions.
Speaker 2: We played the Lions twice. I had Drake Blybs on me,
Speaker 2: Drake Blybers on me. That'm my boy and my boy
Speaker 2: when we played him here in Cincinnati. But remember Louis Delmas. Yeah, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: hey that well that boy. Know we can hit, boy,
Speaker 2: you know we can hit. But we ain't never lost
Speaker 2: to them. But again, salute to all the Lions fans.
Speaker 2: I know it's a lot of y'all in the chat
Speaker 2: that are watching the night. I salute you. Y'all won
Speaker 2: the game. If I met you. It's all love, It's
Speaker 2: all love. And I'm gonna get down to Detroit. I
Speaker 2: promise him. I'll come down to Detroit and sit in
Speaker 2: the stands afford the field and watch the game.
Speaker 1: Jay Daniels playing for the first time in two weeks
Speaker 1: through and he was cooking back at home win over
Speaker 1: the Chargers with thirty nine yards rushed. Today, Daniels became
Speaker 1: the first player in NFL history with four more four
Speaker 1: thousand or more pass yards and a thousand or more
Speaker 1: rush yards in his first twenty games. Justin Herbert was
Speaker 1: under the rest, sacked four times, took nine quarterback hits,
Speaker 1: pressured twelve times before being replaced by Trey Lance. Herbert
Speaker 1: averaged three point three yards per pass attempt and through
Speaker 1: his only interception when pressured by the Commanders. Man, they
Speaker 1: got after Mojo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, they got after them good. They got off
Speaker 2: them real good. And this is the definition of when
Speaker 2: I always say, any given Sunday, anything could happen as
Speaker 2: good as the Charges of look since the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season. Today they ain't look like themselves, not at all,
Speaker 2: not at all. And you expect if you're a betman,
Speaker 2: if you're betman, Jaydon Danis's first game coming back, he's
Speaker 2: coming off injury. So hey, if I'm a betman, I'm
Speaker 2: betting with the Charges to win this one. Yeah, NLA
Speaker 2: two at that I'm gonna spoil Jane Daniels coming back
Speaker 2: to LA playing at home. And it absolutely did not happen.
Speaker 1: It did not happen. Jaye Daniels fifteen or twenty six
Speaker 1: two thirty one one touchdowns. They ran the ball extremely well,
Speaker 1: twenty eight rushes, one hundred and sixty three yards. Debo
Speaker 1: got in on the action eight for ninety six and
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Luke McCaffrey had a tremendous fifty yard catch
Speaker 1: to set him up for a touchdown. Keenan Allen became
Speaker 1: the fastest player in NFL history to collect one thousand catches.
Speaker 1: It took him one hundred and fifty nine games.
Speaker 2: Damn what hey, they been uditioned boy at ball man
Speaker 2: A thousand?
Speaker 1: Huh a thousand? He got one thousand and one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty nine games.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, how many catches you got on eight
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand?
Speaker 1: I went on thousand.
Speaker 2: That's that's wow.
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be routine. Now people gonna think if
Speaker 1: you don't have a thousand catches now if people gonna
Speaker 1: thank you were a bum. If you're receiver, you have
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: People have to also understand that the game has changed.
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's why I say, if you don't have
Speaker 1: a thousand catches now, it ain't like when when I
Speaker 1: came in and you came in, it was extraordinary, got
Speaker 1: like that A thousand? Yeah, well I remember when Jerry
Speaker 1: had like a thousand. Damn that's that's and then you know,
Speaker 1: so now, I mean you probably got what you probably
Speaker 1: got how many guys got a thousand catches? At least
Speaker 1: twelve many, maybe more, maybe more, right, Chris Carter, Tim Brown,
Speaker 1: t O Jerry fifteen Yeah, Hines, Ward's got a thousand,
Speaker 1: You got tight Ends, you got Kelsey, you got on
Speaker 1: soo right. I think he got a thousand, got a
Speaker 1: Lad fitz Gerald have a thousand.
Speaker 2: Hey man, but the boy was getting that rock boy? Hey, well,
Speaker 2: how many? How many I got?
Speaker 1: D Hop has nine eighty nine, He'll get a thousand
Speaker 1: this year. Jesus Christ Davonte got nine seventy nine.
Speaker 2: What I got? What I got? I need to come
Speaker 2: back and play.
Speaker 1: You got seven sixty six.
Speaker 2: That's it? Yeah, I was sorry as hell. I damn
Speaker 2: I think what I think?
Speaker 1: When I retired, I was in the top tien it
Speaker 1: dropped now. Jared Rice leaves the Way fifteen hundred and
Speaker 1: forty nine, Laugh fitz Gerald fourteen thirty two, Tony Gunzales
Speaker 1: thirteen twenty five, Jason Whitten twelve twenty eight, Marvin Harrison
Speaker 1: eleven oh two, Chris Carter eleven oh one, Tim Brown
Speaker 1: one thousand, ninety four, t O one thousand, seventy eight,
Speaker 1: and Kwan one thousand, seventy six, Reggie Wayne one thousand
Speaker 1: and seventy, Andre Johnson one thousand and sixty two, Steve
Speaker 1: Smith one thousand, thirty one, Isaac Bruce one thy twenty four,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey one thousand, nineteen, Hines Ward has a thousand,
Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen just a thousand. So what year this for?
Speaker 1: What year this for? Keenan? You're eleven twelve, You're thirteen.
Speaker 2: Boy, boy, willing and dealing. Boy.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty ninth, Oh Joe, that's dope, dope. And when
Speaker 1: I left in the top ten, so I ain't in
Speaker 1: the top ten no more. He The Raiders were handed
Speaker 1: a forty six forty to six drubbing by the coach
Speaker 1: and Lucas Oil. Jonathan Taylor ran for three touchdowns and
Speaker 1: a two part conversion. Indiana Jones Daniel Indiana Jones threw
Speaker 1: for two touchdowns while playing another turnover free game, and
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis coach remained perfect at home. The Raiders are
Speaker 1: one and four were start to Pete Carroll, coach head
Speaker 1: coaching career. I'm processing it poorly, to tell you the truth,
Speaker 1: because I didn't expect. I did expect to win, win
Speaker 1: right out of the shoots.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's I mean, are you supposed to
Speaker 2: say something like that as a head coach? Is that
Speaker 2: supposed to be every ing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think I mean ask ask Sean McDermott.
Speaker 1: Did he think he was gonna win? Hell? That coach
Speaker 1: that they gonna win? But how you gonna win when
Speaker 1: your quarterback have three turnovers? I mean, Gino didn't play
Speaker 1: good today. He had to excuse me. He had two turnovers,
Speaker 1: two picks bad Indiana Jones twenty or twenty nine to twelve,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns relieved by Anthony Richardson. Jonathan Taylor seventeen carries,
Speaker 1: sixty six yards, three touchdowns. I mean, the Raiders aren't
Speaker 1: good enough to overcome the mistakes that.
Speaker 2: You know, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, not You're not that, You're not. They're not good enough,
Speaker 1: not at all.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe one, two, maybe three teams that are
Speaker 2: good enough to overcome multiple multiple Kansas City Chiefs are
Speaker 2: one of them. The Bills are another one, and maybe
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson when their team is at full health, at
Speaker 2: full strength.
Speaker 1: But we saw, we saw the Bills not able to
Speaker 1: overcome turnover tonight. It all depends on who you playing.
Speaker 1: You're playing a good team.
Speaker 2: You ain't overcoming O careerity, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: And now what happens is when you turn the ball over.
Speaker 1: One or two things happened. You either bring the team
Speaker 1: up to your level or you take go down to their.
Speaker 2: Level one or the other. Yeah, oh you know what,
Speaker 2: let me throw the Lions in that conversation as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah and so, but the Lions. I think Indiana is
Speaker 1: getting everything they look. It's five games into the season,
Speaker 1: but I don't think the season could have gone any
Speaker 1: better other than the untimely passing up their owner, Jim Mersay,
Speaker 1: I don't think the season could have gone any better
Speaker 1: for this ball club, O Joe. I mean, Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: has giving them everything that they could have hoped for,
Speaker 1: and more so, they only had to throw it twenty
Speaker 1: nine times, which is not a lot. Twenty nine twenty
Speaker 1: five rushes. So I think I think the season is
Speaker 1: going unbelievably well. Yeah, for the UH, for the UH,
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: Coachs it's Daniel Jones. Listen, as much as I said
Speaker 2: about him, I gotta take all that back. I gotta
Speaker 2: take anything anything negative I said about Daniel Jones. Maybe
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it is the Giants, And you don't want
Speaker 2: to say maybe it is a Giants because goddamn Jackson Dark,
Speaker 2: even though they lost the day, he cutting up. He's
Speaker 2: cutting up so easy.
Speaker 1: Well, let's get to that game now. As you mentioned that,
Speaker 1: the Saints get their first win over mistake prone Giants.
Speaker 1: Giants rookie Jackson Dark pass for two touches, two hundred
Speaker 1: and two yards and two touchdowns, but turned the ball
Speaker 1: over three times. Even scat Pack had a turnover. They
Speaker 1: had they had five total turnovers and they lost three fumbles.
Speaker 1: Darius Slave lost the fumble, Jackson Dark lost lost the fumble,
Speaker 1: and scat Pack lost the fumble. Three turnovers, five turnovers
Speaker 1: Spencer Radler twenty one to thirty one, two twenty five
Speaker 1: and the touchdowns. Shaheed had four catches fourteen of the
Speaker 1: touchdown including an eighty seven yarder Joe. The Giants were
Speaker 1: in cruise control and then they started turning the ball over.
Speaker 1: They turned the ball over like four knsecutive possessions and
Speaker 1: this is what you get.
Speaker 2: Absolutely rashi he Rashid she heat. You know, I got
Speaker 2: a nice little tweet you say you need to fix
Speaker 2: my speed on Madden.
Speaker 1: Oh, no, nothing, he can run for real.
Speaker 2: Yeah he can go now, he can scat, he can go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was that was a good game.
Speaker 1: They get on the side and I know Jackson Dark
Speaker 1: wanted to you know, he wanted to play well, but
Speaker 1: he was playing well, and then he just started turning
Speaker 1: the ball over and that fumble really hurt them. Scat
Speaker 1: pack FuMB of the ball and the guy runs at
Speaker 1: back eighty seven yard for the touchdown and they level
Speaker 1: look back after that, the Carolina Panthers overcame. Ooh, that's
Speaker 1: what you ought to be ashamed of yourself, O Joe.
Speaker 2: Oh, we talked about this game already.
Speaker 1: No, we're talking about it. Carolina Panthers overcame a seventeen
Speaker 1: point first half deficit to beat your Miami Dolphins twenty
Speaker 1: seven to twenty four.
Speaker 2: We need a little help on two up.
Speaker 1: Six three touchdowns, clean game. But Jay Luada has six
Speaker 1: four bucks ten, Darren Waller had five for seventy eight
Speaker 1: and the touchdown. Devon e Chan had six for thirty
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Bryce Young nineteen or thirty one ninety
Speaker 1: eight two touchdowns, but it was Rico dot Dll not
Speaker 1: deal twenty three carries two o six He's the third
Speaker 1: Panther to go over two hy yards Russian thirty two
Speaker 1: rushers two hundred and thirty nine yards. They play, If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, they playing Cowboys next week? Right? Doesn't
Speaker 1: Carolina play the Cowboys next week?
Speaker 2: Already?
Speaker 1: Yeah? He said I'm gonna get out and say I
Speaker 1: want all that. He want all that?
Speaker 2: So, hey, all right, my dolphins, My dolphins be gonna
Speaker 2: be alright. Uhuh, Dolphin's gonna be alright.
Speaker 1: No, y'all not. I don't know why you keep saying that,
Speaker 1: but y'all not gonna be alright?
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? Yeah, the Dolphins is in
Speaker 2: a better position in the Ravens. You know that, right?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah? But else is that?
Speaker 2: I just I'm hoping you understand what you mean, better position,
Speaker 2: a better position going forward?
Speaker 1: One about to get eaten by crocodile, the other about
Speaker 1: getting eaten by shark.
Speaker 2: You think so yeah, you say you sound you sound
Speaker 2: real confident.
Speaker 1: I mean the Broncos, Oh, joe up. Dylan Gabriel had
Speaker 1: a solid rookie debut despite the Browns losing. Dylan Gabriel
Speaker 1: was nineteen or thirty three one hundred and ninety yards
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, matching Joe Flacco touchdown throws on the season.
Speaker 1: With the defeat, Brown's quarterbacks are oh and seventeen in
Speaker 1: their first start since nineteen ninety five, the longest such
Speaker 1: streak since nineteen fifty, when quarterback starts were first recorded. Ojo,
Speaker 1: after watching him start early after watching his first start,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Gabriel? What you like?
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel looked good. He looked really good. And Stefanski
Speaker 2: the Fancy called one hell of a game, a very
Speaker 2: balanced game. To run the pass was damn near equivalent.
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel processing, dropping back, going marid read one, read two,
Speaker 2: read three. Okay, it's not there, Boom, I'm dumbing it
Speaker 2: off to the flat. Everything he did in today's game
Speaker 2: was extremely clean, extremely keen. Defense played well. They didn't
Speaker 2: get to win. But what I saw from Dylan Gabriel,
Speaker 2: and it pains me to say this as a Bengals fan,
Speaker 2: is he looked efing phenomenal. He looked great. They really
Speaker 2: have something good to build off of when it goes
Speaker 2: when it comes to the film room. Based on whoever
Speaker 2: they play next week, he gonna be he gonna be
Speaker 2: He's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine, especially with
Speaker 2: the way he played and knowing Brian Florey in that
Speaker 2: defense and knowing how you can dialop that pressure and
Speaker 2: try to rattle a young quarterback. And he wasn't rattled
Speaker 2: it all. He handled everything extremely well.
Speaker 1: He did. I thought he played well. And like you said,
Speaker 1: considering that what he was, who he was facing as
Speaker 1: the DC, and the kind of exotic looks that Minnesota
Speaker 1: can throw at you and the kind of pressure they
Speaker 1: can generate, I thought he played. I thought he played
Speaker 1: really well. They did a great job of getting the
Speaker 1: ball out of his hand. Knew they were going to
Speaker 1: try to put pressure on him, try to disguise it.
Speaker 1: Judkins run the ball, ran the ball extremely well. Twenty
Speaker 1: three carries a buck ten, so they ran the ball
Speaker 1: well enough so you just couldn't pin your ears back
Speaker 1: and fly try to get the quarterback. I like what
Speaker 1: I saw. I really liked what I saw. Look, Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz played well. This is why you get a veteran
Speaker 1: like Carson Wentz, a guy that could hold the ship
Speaker 1: steady until your captain comes back. He called a ward.
Speaker 1: Getting sneaky, you see him running three step face. He
Speaker 1: run a three step face go route on cover two
Speaker 1: and you see what they ran. They ran what the
Speaker 1: defense called it the yoga, what we call it a
Speaker 1: stick and war. We're looking inside and saw the stick,
Speaker 1: and he saw what you call a pull up. He
Speaker 1: didn't realize he would throw the whole shot right behind him.
Speaker 1: That was That was a heck of her throw. Addison
Speaker 1: did a great job of staying wide because that saved
Speaker 1: you coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting you do a great job.
Speaker 1: Of staying wide. Let him pick a spend yourself to
Speaker 1: the sideline because if you get too far inside, kill shot.
Speaker 1: Great great throw by Wins, great route by Addison. But
Speaker 1: I like I like Gabriel. I like what I saw. Look,
Speaker 1: it's one game. But I thought, considering on the road
Speaker 1: and overseas in London, Brian Flores can do a lot
Speaker 1: of different things, and he confused a lot of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But I thought they did a I thought Cleveland did
Speaker 1: a great job putting Dylan Gabriel in a situation where
Speaker 1: he could have success. They didn't get to win. But
Speaker 1: if I'm Cleveland, I'm like, Okay, I think we might have.
Speaker 2: Something without without the wind. I'm feeling good about that.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good about that. Defensively, they canna always handle
Speaker 2: their business offensively. That's always been the struggles. What offense
Speaker 2: are we gonna get? Now? Get this offense that we
Speaker 2: saw today where there was a heavy dose of run,
Speaker 2: there was a heavy dose of pass, and he made
Speaker 2: all the right decisions with the ball and didn't put
Speaker 2: the ball in harm's way. We can live with that. Well,
Speaker 2: excuse me, now, they can live with that. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: looked good, he looked he looked really good today, and.
Speaker 1: It's reported I guess Adison was bitched because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean they talked about because I read in the
Speaker 1: paper that he played really well considering that he was bitch. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know the backdrop of the story. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he did something while he was over there
Speaker 1: in London. Maybe he best bedcheck, maybe he was late
Speaker 1: to practice lake to a meeting or something. But he
Speaker 1: was reported that he was go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think it might be a continuous, a continuous on
Speaker 2: the suspension and them actually still having punishment for him
Speaker 2: as well. Why I say, you never know. You never know,
Speaker 2: because if I'm not mistaken, I might not be wrong.
Speaker 2: I think he set out with the first quarter. I
Speaker 2: think he said at the first quarter or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he might have had to sit out the
Speaker 2: first quarter of the last game as well. I couldn't
Speaker 2: be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm not sure. But
Speaker 2: when he did when he.
Speaker 1: Was bench because he wanted to explore London and missed
Speaker 1: the walkthrough th real that is what is being reported.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, ain't nobody. Look, this ain't college. He came
Speaker 1: off suspension. He was suspended for three games by the NFL.
Speaker 1: He played well, would why would I? Why would I
Speaker 1: suspend him again? That hurts me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, would you say he wondered what he wanted
Speaker 2: to explore London? Hey, you can't do that, man, You
Speaker 2: can't do that, man, bro.
Speaker 1: The last thing I would want to do is be alone,
Speaker 1: considering what happened to the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback. The last
Speaker 1: thing I want to be in a foreign country as
Speaker 1: an American. I don't know if they noticed it, but
Speaker 1: we're not thought of too how in other parts of
Speaker 1: the world. It's just I'm just throwing that out there.
Speaker 1: O Jo, We're not we.
Speaker 2: Gotta understand over in London, is a lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of us over there, a lot of them, a
Speaker 2: lot of them.
Speaker 1: So we're not thought of very highly in other parts
Speaker 1: of the country, be it London, be at Ireland, be
Speaker 1: it anywhere you are an Americans. Americans right now are
Speaker 1: not very hot, thought of in a very regard.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 1: And there's a and they probably said, look, security, we
Speaker 1: have security here. Just make sure X, Y and Z. Right. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's his Hey, he wanted to do it. He did
Speaker 1: what he wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Oho, Yeah, you're right. You can't do that.
Speaker 1: Today though, Ojo. Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks. Boy, boy, boy,
Speaker 1: what a game. Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald. Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: twenty nine of thirty three three seventy nine, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no interceptions, Sam Donald twenty eight to thirty four three
Speaker 1: forty one, four touchdown. But it was that last turnover
Speaker 1: he throwing. It looked like he had a first look
Speaker 1: like it was gonna be a touchdown. And his the
Speaker 1: guy Helmet Levonte, if you wont if you want to
Speaker 1: play well the NFL. Look at everybody that came and
Speaker 1: talked to Old Joe and I Darren Waller had another touchdown.
Speaker 1: Levonte David had a big time pick. Go back and
Speaker 1: look at the guy that's talking to Henley been bawling.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody having success. Huh. Rashaan Gary who Gary?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, Rashan get yeah yeah, Rashon Garrett.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, got damn got five sacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We only in week five.
Speaker 1: Yes, this was an unbelievable game. Thirty eight thirty five Tampa.
Speaker 1: They scored fifteen points in they scored ten points in
Speaker 1: the second quarter, fifteen points in the third quarter, ten
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. But it was the game
Speaker 1: winning kick. They win thirty eight to thirty five. And
Speaker 1: it seems like Tampa is always involved in games like this.
Speaker 1: O shoe. Remember at the Atlanta game. I mean all
Speaker 1: their games have basically they won, have been three points less.
Speaker 2: Hold on, we got to talk about it. Make up
Speaker 2: BOOKA rookie Ibuka Oh yeah, oh yeah, yea yeah yeah
Speaker 2: yah yeah.
Speaker 1: Abuka was crazy. Jackson Smith and Jigba like, hey, it's
Speaker 1: the baill of Ohio State. Who better Ibuka? The meccale
Speaker 1: Buka seven catches a buck sixty three one tub Jackson
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbu js and eight catches a buck thirty two.
Speaker 1: Another tub they had nine targets, eight catches. The other
Speaker 1: hell was seven for seven. A Mecca of Buoka was
Speaker 1: seven targets, seven receptions, a buck sixty three. I mean,
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are throwing the ball out like bro yeah Lett.
Speaker 1: Did anybody bring their defense? That's all I want to do.
Speaker 1: Did anybody bring the defense? Or is it or is
Speaker 1: it optional?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know one thing these young receivers.
Speaker 2: I know we all talk about the same top five
Speaker 2: and after the season ends, if JSN any booka keep
Speaker 2: up with what they're doing, we're gonna have that.
Speaker 1: They tried to. They tried to, They tried to crack that.
Speaker 1: They tried to. They definitely tried to crack that top
Speaker 1: ten and they said, man, were trying to get in
Speaker 1: the top five. What you're talking about, We're gonna have
Speaker 1: to have a conversation absolutely, and we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: have a conversation about Baker Mayfield being an MVP discussion
Speaker 1: while you bullgiving.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely now when it comes to the MVP discussion. Also,
Speaker 2: we're gonna need for Baker Mayfield, no tempy Buccaneers to
Speaker 2: have those wins that win call o yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you keep going on. He definitely could be in that conversation.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, I know right now that Josh
Speaker 1: Allen was the favorite heading into tonight. Justin Herbert was
Speaker 1: up there, but he lost. My homeboy always going to
Speaker 1: be in the discussion that Dak played, dakts throwing the
Speaker 1: football like you said, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to wins and losses. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could have stat it's a stat based awards, but they
Speaker 1: want those stats to go towards winning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, and so when you look at it, it's uh,
Speaker 2: if it was just based on stats, Hill Burrow would
Speaker 2: the one that God damn MVP last year. If it
Speaker 2: was stats, we didn't have the ws.
Speaker 1: Levonte David intercepted Sam Darnold with less than a midic left,
Speaker 1: setting up Chase mclaughlan's thirty nine yard field goal to
Speaker 1: earn a thirty eight thirty five walk off victory. The
Speaker 1: Buccaneers became the first team in NFL history with four
Speaker 1: wins in their first five games of a season in
Speaker 1: which they were either tied or were trailing in the
Speaker 1: final men and of regulation, Seattle. I mean Seattle played well. Man,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, damn Seat, y'all got it like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Baker like, I mean Baker had four incompletions, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy four. Sam Donald had six. So the ball
Speaker 1: hit So they threw sixty seven times and the ball
Speaker 1: hit the dirt ten times, don't.
Speaker 2: Yo, that's it. I don't think. Do you know how insane?
Speaker 1: Let me take that back. It hit the ball nine
Speaker 1: times because one I was in the seventy. You can't
Speaker 1: understand how difficult that is. Yeah, hell yeah, it is
Speaker 1: for for for two quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: First round picks, Baker Manfield, Baker Manfield, Cleveland, Sam Donald,
Speaker 2: New York, and all of a sudden you get to
Speaker 2: the right situation, and all of a sudden you flourish.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was third in that draft. Baker Mayfield was first,
Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson was second. Yeah, and then Sam Donald
Speaker 1: was third.
Speaker 2: It's amazing what happened when you when you when you
Speaker 2: go to the right situation. Now, situations, situations.
Speaker 1: Matter, for sure, absolutely absolutely, it absolutely does matter. But
Speaker 1: this was this was a very very entertaining game. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: I don't know, they don't learn, but I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: letting them do it, so they're gonna learn the hard way,
Speaker 1: because see, that's what life has a way of teaching
Speaker 1: us until we learn the lesson that it's trying to teach, right,
Speaker 1: And you know, guys still won't learn. They want to
Speaker 1: drop the ball, they want to be allome guy. Has
Speaker 1: a seventy yard touchdown cost them the game? Yeah? Cost
Speaker 1: them the game?
Speaker 2: Was that the Cardinals?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Arizona Cardinals just suffered perhaps the worst wildest
Speaker 1: lost in the NFL history. They were of twenty one
Speaker 1: to six in the fourth quarter, fumble crossing the gold
Speaker 1: line that was gonna put them up twenty eight to six.
Speaker 1: The fumble and an interception for a touchdown because think this,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, they had they got calls the fumble, you fumble,
Speaker 1: kick the ball into the end zone, they jump on
Speaker 1: and get a touchdown. So now it's twenty one to
Speaker 1: twelve less than five minutes. Kyle, after the game, I
Speaker 1: really don't know what to think about that. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how that's how the loser game one on one,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was crazy. It was Arizona gave
Speaker 1: up a twenty one to three lead to the worst
Speaker 1: team in football became the first franchise since nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: the NFL ALFL Merger to lose three straight games on
Speaker 1: game winning field goals. But all you got to do
Speaker 1: is look at de Mercado. Bro Yes, you cost him
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: Basically, I don't know. So.
Speaker 1: So the ball was just so heavy you couldn't take
Speaker 1: it another two feet, Hume. The ball was just so heavy, Oh, Yoe,
Speaker 1: he just had to drop it. Oh, Joe, you know
Speaker 1: how you're bringing grocerly in the you truck. If I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to make but one trip, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get all the bags I possibly can. I got ten bags,
Speaker 1: I got five and five. If I got fifteen, I
Speaker 1: got eight and seven. And you know sometime, don't Joe,
Speaker 1: you get you? Like I said, who you got a rest?
Speaker 1: So the ball was that heavy that he just had
Speaker 1: to sit it down before he got into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Why is it happening so much because DeShawn Jackson. You
Speaker 1: started his foolishness. He jack started his foolishness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well technically yeah, I started it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. College I started there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in college, but I left the reft behind so
Speaker 2: far he didn't even see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, you did throw the ball back? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. O yo after and we've oh yo,
Speaker 1: and we've seen it so many times. It just happened
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: It just happened last year.
Speaker 1: We just talked about several times. But yeah, oh oh Jo,
Speaker 1: remember the Colts the receiver, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that just last week.
Speaker 1: Yes, Amari d Mercado seventy two yard tests down, he
Speaker 1: dropped the ball at the gold line. Mitchell did the
Speaker 1: same thing against the Rams last week, Oh joe. How
Speaker 1: many times? At what point in time they didn't start?
Speaker 1: You know what? And somebody the players are so good
Speaker 1: you just can't cut them. But bro, why y'all keep
Speaker 1: doing this? Y'all? You make Sports Center for all the
Speaker 1: wrong reasons reasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's messed up. That's messed up.
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers beat the Rams in overtime, Oh joe,
Speaker 1: by the score of twenty six twenty three. Forty nine
Speaker 1: Ers improved to four and one take over sole possession
Speaker 1: of first place in the NFC West, while the Rams
Speaker 1: fall to three and two at the goal line, three
Speaker 1: down down, three points and about the score, tiring Williams.
Speaker 1: He fumbled great punch out by the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: They get the ball stuffed up because looked like the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers were gonna potentially win the thing in regulation,
Speaker 1: but forty nine ers hold them out of the end
Speaker 1: zone there and then on fourth down on Joe when
Speaker 1: the rubber really needed to meet the road, because it
Speaker 1: seems to me they we're going to go for it.
Speaker 1: I don't think they were going to play for the
Speaker 1: tie like we got Sunday night between the Packers and
Speaker 1: the Package of the Cowboys. It seemed like se Sean
Speaker 1: McVay was held bent. He wanted to win this game
Speaker 1: on Joe. He really he wasn't playing for no tie,
Speaker 1: and he went for it. The question that I have
Speaker 1: for you, do you like Sean McVay going forward on
Speaker 1: fourth down or does he kick the field goal and
Speaker 1: give the forty nineers because the next score wins the
Speaker 1: ball game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like. I like him trying to
Speaker 2: go for it. I want to get this game over with.
Speaker 2: We've had some mistakes, we've had some drops, we've had
Speaker 2: some penalties. We fought back to get back into the game,
Speaker 2: and I really want to end it right now. I
Speaker 2: want to end it. So I have no problem with
Speaker 2: him going forward on fourth and one trying to end
Speaker 2: that game. Listen, it can go one or two ways.
Speaker 2: Either you get it or you don't. You didn't get it.
Speaker 2: The fact that even had the balls and the goals
Speaker 2: to even go for it in that situation says a lot.
Speaker 2: And he's one of the few coaches in the NFL
Speaker 2: who can go for it and take that chance, like
Speaker 2: a Dan Campbell. You know he's wondered if you can
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: I love it. I loved it. Also, Ojo, don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not playing for a tie. I'm down there. I'm in
Speaker 1: a great position. And you look, look, you had an opportunity.
Speaker 1: You're right there the goal line. You get a punch out,
Speaker 1: and now you're down again. And guess what, Ojoe, If
Speaker 1: I keep the field goal, it's twenty is twenty three
Speaker 1: twenty next girl wins the ball, wins the game, and
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are getting the ball back. Now
Speaker 1: you can say, well, they might fumble it. Nah, I'm
Speaker 1: not taking that chance. I'm down there. I believe in
Speaker 1: my offensive line. And but look, Robert Sawah, guess right,
Speaker 1: he sold out on that side and it stuffed him.
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't even close, Ojoe. I'll be dainty.
Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as it happened, bam, bam, guess
Speaker 1: what forty nineer starts spilling out on the field, thy going.
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams ain't no, I would Hey, let's
Speaker 1: get a measurement. The Fishers already like it's old going
Speaker 1: the other way. And these quarterbacks were dealer tonight, Ojo.
Speaker 1: Matt Jones thirty three or forty nine three forty two,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no interception, Matthew Stafford thirty and forty seven
Speaker 1: three eighty nine, three touchdowns, no interceptions. I mean, it
Speaker 1: really was a clean game, with the exception of that
Speaker 1: one fumble by Kyrin William. That probably is no way
Speaker 1: to know. But it didn't help them. Now, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. We can't say it cost them the game, Ojoe,
Speaker 1: but it damn sure did not help them win the game.
Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers have to feel good losing
Speaker 1: a game, and like they lost on Sunday on a
Speaker 1: short week. You're down, Purty, You're down all these guys.
Speaker 1: Bosa's not coming back. Look at all the guys that
Speaker 1: they had injured tonight and to have guys step up
Speaker 1: and rise to the occasion and play as well as
Speaker 1: they did on a very very short week. Look, I understand,
Speaker 1: O Joe. It's not like they had to go across
Speaker 1: country look California. But still you get a short day,
Speaker 1: a day less to work because you have to travel.
Speaker 1: But I thought the forty nine is given the situation,
Speaker 1: given the totality of the situation that they're in, I
Speaker 1: thought they played extremely well tonight, O Joe. And I
Speaker 1: think Shanahan should be very very proud of his ball
Speaker 1: club because they did play well tonight and they found
Speaker 1: a way to get a win against a division opponent.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Not only should Kyle Shanahan be proud of his
Speaker 2: ball club, he needs to take a bow himself with
Speaker 2: the play calling some of the stuff he did with
Speaker 2: all the injuries that you just talked about that have
Speaker 2: mounted up. No Ricky Purcell, no Brandon I you, no
Speaker 2: George Kittle. From all, Juwan Jennings is out, Juwan Jennings
Speaker 2: is out, and jo.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Bosa is not coming back.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, But from from offer the standpoint, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyah,
Speaker 2: all yeah, yeah, yea brother Kendrick Bourne. Brother, Kendrick Bourne.
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna see this salute on the career.
Speaker 2: Night obviously had some drop last game that have a
Speaker 2: show weekend come back and rebound and from for Mac
Speaker 2: Jones to be able to have the confidence to keep
Speaker 2: getting and feeding you the ball. And another thing I
Speaker 2: want to talk about the quarterback situation. Tonight's game is
Speaker 2: a perfect example of the definition of next man up
Speaker 2: when you look at a game like tonight and see
Speaker 2: what Mac Jones is doing, having a resurgence in his career,
Speaker 2: which is why I also think where quarterback go situation matters.
Speaker 2: We saw Mac Jones do it tonight, we see Daniel
Speaker 2: Jones doing in Indianapolis. We're seeing Baker Baker Mayfield do
Speaker 2: it over there, and now god damn in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2: Sam Donald going from Minnesota to Seattle and still doing it. Now.
Speaker 2: I think where quarterbacks go and what they have surrounding them,
Speaker 2: including those calling the plays, is so important to a
Speaker 2: quarterback success the most. Hey yeah, and dude, they look
Speaker 2: really good. This is a really really good game. The
Speaker 2: Rams didn't really help themselves either with some of the drops.
Speaker 2: Some of the mistakes, some of the fumbles, but hey,
Speaker 2: this was probably one of the better, one of the
Speaker 2: better Thursday Night games we've gotten so far.
Speaker 1: Hey, the quarterbacks were dealing. Oh yo, Look, you know
Speaker 1: I'm not big on hyperbole, and I said this at
Speaker 1: the time. Yes, Sir, I thought the forty nine er
Speaker 1: should have drafted Mac Jones. Because it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to I really can't. I really can't differentiate between the two.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to tell me that you believe if Kyle,
Speaker 1: if Matt Jones had been in this system for the
Speaker 1: entirety of his career, because we saw what he did
Speaker 1: when he had Josh Josh McDaniels, He saw what he did.
Speaker 1: You're one, yeah, and you're put the team to the
Speaker 1: playoffs with a Pro Bowl player. Are you telling me
Speaker 1: if he has Kyle Shanahan for four years, he's not
Speaker 1: as good, if not better than Brock Party. And guess
Speaker 1: what if you take I get I get why they
Speaker 1: didn't because when you looked, when you look at a guy,
Speaker 1: nothing jumps off at you. He doesn't have Lamar Jackson's speed,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a Josh Allen's hype, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes's arm, So why would we take a quarterback
Speaker 1: that really, Oh Joe is just he's average with the
Speaker 1: third pick in the draft. But what you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: had to do is give up all the draft compensation.
Speaker 1: So imagine as well as they do drafting, what you
Speaker 1: can put around it. And guess what, even if he
Speaker 1: doesn't pay it out, O Joe, you go back and
Speaker 1: you get you another quarterback, or you couldn't go back
Speaker 1: and get you another quarterback and still guess what, you
Speaker 1: don't have to spend DOWMN near three hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Me personally, I believe I believe Matt Jones in this system.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about in this system with Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: with all think about all the pieces that he had,
Speaker 1: O Joe, Yeah, when he has Kittle, when he has Debo,
Speaker 1: when he has Ayu, when he has Jennings, when he
Speaker 1: had Christian McCaffrey, and he got a Trent Williams playing
Speaker 1: at playing Trent. Not this guy that's beat up. He's
Speaker 1: trying to work himself back in the conditioning and in
Speaker 1: his form. It's hard for me to believe that that
Speaker 1: Matt Jones is not as good, if not as, if
Speaker 1: not better than Pertyt And for me, I would have
Speaker 1: taken it, but I understand why they didn't because the measurables.
Speaker 1: When you look at him, Ojo, You're like, that is
Speaker 1: not the third pick in the draft, and you draft
Speaker 1: took a guy with the third pick in the draft
Speaker 1: because of the measurables. But it was the seventh round
Speaker 1: draft pick that really saved Kyle Shan a hand in
Speaker 1: John Lynch's job because you give up that kind of compensation,
Speaker 1: O Joe, and that guy doesn't work out and he
Speaker 1: didn't work out, right, You're going, yeah, what you think?
Speaker 1: You think? What you think? Do you think? Do you
Speaker 1: think Matt Jones party similar party is better, statically better,
Speaker 1: a little bit marginally better? What you think?
Speaker 2: It's hard to really decipher between the two on who's
Speaker 2: better or not because when Brock Party is in there,
Speaker 2: he's the rhythm and time in quarterback as well, when
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is in there, he's a rhythm and time
Speaker 2: in quarterback. Well, both suit the system very well. Really
Speaker 2: not dual threat, not dual threat quarterback. Hell, they are
Speaker 2: your typical system West Coast type. Off of the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that are dropped back sometimes the shotgun and to deliver
Speaker 2: everything off of timing. And they may they make great
Speaker 2: throws and they're accurate, they're actually enough what they lack
Speaker 2: and being able to escape, escape the pocket or use
Speaker 2: their legs running, they make up for in other areas.
Speaker 2: I think, finish your thoat, say they both played well
Speaker 2: doing exactly what's ass of them in that specific system.
Speaker 1: When you're not that big as far as physical size
Speaker 1: on Joe six four, you don't have rocket arm, you
Speaker 1: don't have Lamar Jackson's mobility of Michael Vick's mobility. You
Speaker 1: have to have great anticipatory skills. Yes, look at Joe Montana.
Speaker 1: Joe was not overwhelming, didn't have the big time arm,
Speaker 1: he wasn't the greatest athlete, but his anticipation skills were tremendous.
Speaker 1: Rock Purty great anticipatory skills. Matt Jones great anticipatory skills
Speaker 1: because you got to be because you don't have the
Speaker 1: ball to wait, You've got to get the ball out.
Speaker 1: You have to anticipate where the guy's going to be,
Speaker 1: and like you know what, have the trust. I trust
Speaker 1: the system. I trust the guy that I'm throwing to
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be where he's supposed to be. I
Speaker 1: understand the defense. I know where I'm vulnerable. I know
Speaker 1: where guys are going to disperse to. I can let
Speaker 1: this ball go. J justus to me. You can't convince
Speaker 1: me that brock Party is substantially better than Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that. And I believe, in the
Speaker 1: same circumstances, if I had Matt Jones with Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: I believe whatever fate the forty nine ers had gone
Speaker 1: through over the last four years, that same fate would
Speaker 1: have happened to them with Matt Jones, don't.
Speaker 2: Joe, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, because what we saw the small
Speaker 2: sample of Mac Jones right now, the since sinus Perty's
Speaker 2: been out, it's been exact same. The offense has been efficient,
Speaker 2: the offense up and down the field. They put up points,
Speaker 2: and it showed the night to where next man up.
Speaker 2: That's why I said to start the show off is
Speaker 2: this was the definition of next man up and not
Speaker 2: missing the beat. Now, which other teams were able to
Speaker 2: do what we're seeing tonight from the forty nine ers
Speaker 2: hell like here we got the goddamn Detroit Lions here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati at PAK Coorse Stadium when Joe Burrow goes down.
Speaker 2: I wish we still had the same type of success
Speaker 2: they had tonight, where you don't miss a beat just
Speaker 2: because your quarterback goes down. But unfortunately it's a little different.
Speaker 2: It's a little different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you guys ain't that good. And I tried
Speaker 1: to tell you that, and you got the you got
Speaker 1: the Bengals fan, your Bengals, you got them all hype Jake.
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, slow down, let's let's let's
Speaker 2: let's there there there are other there are other elements.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to talk about no other team.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, why are you talking. I
Speaker 1: don't want you to say foot football? You got another week?
Speaker 1: You can still got less see Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Oh
Speaker 1: and if you don't win on Sunday, it's another week.
Speaker 2: I gotta you know what, I got a question for you.
Speaker 2: What you understand how the football guards work. You're know
Speaker 2: when it comes to the game of football in the NFL,
Speaker 2: it's week to week.
Speaker 1: Well, this ain't gonna be all week. This ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be y'all week.
Speaker 2: What happens if just I'm just hypothetic speaking chat Those
Speaker 2: in the chat hypothetic speaking. What happened if the Bengals
Speaker 2: shocked the world and beat the Lions?
Speaker 1: If a dog had a square butt, he pooped blocks,
Speaker 1: but it's round, so we know how it would come buy,
Speaker 1: don't we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't come out of with y'all. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: I could be optimistic. I could be optimistic. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying we're gonna win. I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking,
Speaker 2: is the football of the football God's decide to shock
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Nah, he busied that day. He ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be watching I promise you God ain't no Bengo fan.
Speaker 1: He ain't watching that game. He ain't watching that mask
Speaker 1: at paid Court Stadium. Now, hey, listen, I don't know
Speaker 1: about master. We're gonna put up a fight? What what?
Speaker 2: Whoa?
Speaker 1: Whoa?
Speaker 2: Whoa?
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa? If the fate is the same, what what
Speaker 1: doesn't matter?
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I got to have some type of
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be all right. I believe in us.
Speaker 2: That's all that matters. There's a reason I'm in town.
Speaker 2: I done had that pep talk with them boys. I
Speaker 2: think we're gonna be alright. Uh.
Speaker 1: Matt Joe after the game was asked after the game
Speaker 1: by playing Hobbley reply, I'm good. I just can't show it.
Speaker 1: That's on me. I'll be fine. That's what happens when
Speaker 1: you don't practice for a couple of weeks. So that's
Speaker 1: my fault. Uh. You know, look, quarter it's hard for quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: There are other positions on shoe. Yeah, that can misspractice
Speaker 1: and you can't tell when they get into a game. Right,
Speaker 1: It's hard for a quarterback. That's why a lot of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like to wear their pads on shoe. Hey, they
Speaker 1: tell us to take our pans off. We can't wait.
Speaker 1: We can't leads in the locker room. Quarterbacks like to
Speaker 1: throw with their plans because guess what they're gonna throw
Speaker 1: with their pads they're gonna have. So they want the
Speaker 1: same field, they want the same rhythm as if they're
Speaker 1: throwing with pads, because that's how they're gonna throw in
Speaker 1: the game. And so Max is like, you know what,
Speaker 1: his fighting senses probably wasn't England. Look at the next
Speaker 1: board games, Oh Joe. Week six at Bucks, then Week
Speaker 1: seven at home home to the Falcons, week eight at Texans,
Speaker 1: week nine at the Giants, So it's not like they
Speaker 1: got to eat. The schedule coming up now, I don't
Speaker 1: know how long brought Purdy is going to be out,
Speaker 1: but they look they got ten days, so that's a
Speaker 1: long time for party. He was out this week. Ohoe,
Speaker 1: So he gets he got an extra you know, he
Speaker 1: basically got two weeks because he hadn't you know, probably
Speaker 1: done anything since Sunday's game. Mac Jones he gets ten
Speaker 1: days because they're off until you know, they don't play
Speaker 1: Sunday obviously, they play a week from Sunday, so they
Speaker 1: get ample time to get some of the guys, some
Speaker 1: of these guys that's banged up, ojo, they get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get them back healthy. Uh you see Mac
Speaker 1: Jones fit, We got that, uh we got that uh
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that red that red with the little burgerdy
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see what let's see his fit. Can we
Speaker 1: pull that video?
Speaker 2: You were clean? Then? Hey, listen, that's a man that
Speaker 2: came for business. Now yeah yeah, yeah, Hey that's a man. Ay,
Speaker 2: that's that's two face.
Speaker 1: That's who man been hanging around brothers.
Speaker 2: Hey, he clean. That's the man that came from like that.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like that Matt as clean as he looked. That's
Speaker 2: exactly how he played. He played his ass off the
Speaker 2: night they played exactly like that. He scared me a
Speaker 2: little bit when he went down.
Speaker 1: And I saw ye.
Speaker 2: Look he grabbed his knee breaks ojo. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: it was pinching him a little bit. Yes, yes, that's
Speaker 2: when you get tackled. They got damn knee breaks start
Speaker 2: pinching you. So when they're pulling this calf, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what it must be pinching either the knee braks is
Speaker 2: pinching him, cramping one of the other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, the little calves he got it. Dang
Speaker 1: that won't he hurt nothing because he got First of all,
Speaker 1: he got a knee breaks on. So that calf is
Speaker 1: not as strong as what it needs to be because
Speaker 1: he wears that knee breaks. Ojo. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got to build strength back up in that calf
Speaker 1: in order for it to uh. But he played, He
Speaker 1: played his tail off. I mean both quarterbacks played well.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, both quarterbacks played well. My concerned
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. Oh joke. Without bolts in
Speaker 1: the game, they really couldn't generate no pressure.
Speaker 2: Pressure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really couldn't generate any pressure. And the last
Speaker 1: thing you want a guy like Matthew Stafford to have
Speaker 1: is time. Yeah, because he was dealing, man, he was
Speaker 1: that the one. I'm take that back. I'm want to
Speaker 1: play with Matthew Stafford. We keep talking about Shell if
Speaker 1: you could come back and play, and we keep talking
Speaker 1: about Mahomes and Borrow and Herbert and Allen and this one. Man,
Speaker 1: give me more faux Matt Stafford while a y'all out
Speaker 1: there bumping.
Speaker 2: Them you're talking about You gotta think now, Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: is a legitimate gun slinger. It's only about four folk,
Speaker 2: maybe four quarterbacks in the league right now that had
Speaker 2: the kind of ball Matt Stanford throws with that kind
Speaker 2: of velocity and can take any throw in the field
Speaker 2: an throw. Even even though Aaron Rodgers is old he's
Speaker 2: one of them, Matt Stafford is another. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think gunslinger gunsling.
Speaker 1: You see the difference when you When I think of
Speaker 1: gun slinger, I think guys that will take unnecessary risk.
Speaker 1: That's really not what Aaron Rodgers is now Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: can make every throw. Matthew Stafford can make every throw.
Speaker 1: Change arm angles. Both guys can change arm angles. But
Speaker 1: sometimes if you look at the interception for Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: you look at the interception for Aaron Rodgers, and you'll
Speaker 1: see a vast different because Rogers was really never willing
Speaker 1: to take unnecessary risk. Matthew Stafford he believed he could
Speaker 1: throw a football through a keyhole. He damn show I
Speaker 1: just gonna get a football through a key hole. Let
Speaker 1: me show you, and he would try it. Now he's
Speaker 1: gotten better. Now can you imagine how what he would
Speaker 1: have been had he had Sean McVay his whole career.
Speaker 1: But he could throw it o Joe. I mean, he
Speaker 1: can fast spend the ball, and now I expect him
Speaker 1: when I watch a game, I want to see one
Speaker 1: time where he look over here and throw the ball
Speaker 1: over there. He did that. He didn't do it tonight.
Speaker 2: He didn't do tonight. I remember he did it against
Speaker 2: the Bengals in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh he did it. He did it. He did
Speaker 1: it too in the row and he's running down the
Speaker 1: fields because he's biped up. Don't look in my eyes.
Speaker 1: Don't look in my eyes if I look at my eyes.
Speaker 1: But hey, but this was this. I think when the
Speaker 1: NFL envision look, they tried to they try to make
Speaker 1: these game division divisional matchup. Oho, so they're really close,
Speaker 1: nobody having to go a great distance. You don't want
Speaker 1: somebody on the West coast having to go east, right, right,
Speaker 1: East coast having to go west or let it be
Speaker 1: close proximity. It's already tough enough playing I can just
Speaker 1: imagine because I didn't really start to feel good till Friday,
Speaker 1: so I can imagine playing a game on Sunday then't
Speaker 1: turn around playing them another game on Thursday. And especially
Speaker 1: as you got older, o Jo, it took long and.
Speaker 2: Longer to get that old man up at you to recover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this was This was an unbelievable, unbelievable ball game.
Speaker 1: Thank you NFL, Thank you Rams, Thank you forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: because you guys played your ass off on a very
Speaker 1: very short week. This is type of game that we
Speaker 1: want to see on on a Thursday. Got some bull
Speaker 1: dybe you know, Hey, this is what we're this is
Speaker 1: what we're looking about with yo