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Speaker 1: I tell you what? Bronco Country?

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, listen, do do me a favor. This is

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Speaker 2: now what you're gonna have to do. This is the

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Speaker 2: one game I wasn't able to see. This is the

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Speaker 2: one game I wasn't able to watch because while they

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Speaker 2: were playing, obviously I was giving my PEP talk to

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Speaker 2: my team in the locker room, so I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Able to not we just want to talk to him anymore,

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Speaker 1: not This is the.

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Speaker 2: One game I couldn't see. But but you got there.

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Speaker 2: You got to give me. Give me in context, what happened,

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Speaker 2: how the game went, Why.

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Speaker 1: They Broncos defense dominated? Okay, uh they sat Jalen hurt

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Speaker 1: six times, six six times, go down?

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Speaker 2: You talk about the sack Jayler hurt six times, with.

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Speaker 1: Six times, Boddido got him two and a half times.

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Speaker 1: Hold on with that officer line six times. We got

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Speaker 1: the best. That front folk, that front folk, we got Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get home, got home. Okayqwan had six carries for thirty yards.

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Speaker 1: They had eleven rushes for forty five yards. So what

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Speaker 1: they did is that they listened to y'all, man throw

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Speaker 1: them all, throw them all, throw them all. That's not

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Speaker 1: what they do. They throw when they want to, not

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Speaker 1: when they have to. And even though they the Broncos

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Speaker 1: let them get out there, they had a seventeen to

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Speaker 1: three lead, Broncos said, now we're gonna shut y'all down.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna give y'allno how many yards they have the

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Speaker 1: second half, if you take that last drive out, because

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Speaker 1: at one point I think they had like forty yards

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait,

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Speaker 2: let me catch up, nacause you're talking too fast.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: They had a seventeen three le. The Eagles had a

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Speaker 2: seventeen three.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen three. Let me tell you how comfety the Broncos were.

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Speaker 1: They score lord and went for two?

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Speaker 2: Did they get it?

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Speaker 1: Got it? Eighteen seventeen? Then they kicked the field goal.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so at what point if they were seventeen three

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Speaker 2: did they get it?

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Speaker 1: Was seventeen to three? They scoring a touchdown made it

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Speaker 1: seventeen ten, scoring another touchdown, went for two to make

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Speaker 2: Goal, so they got They went up seventeen three. Right

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Speaker 2: the way they got up seventeen three. Was it on

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Speaker 2: of read?

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Speaker 1: They ran like a double move just on sa court

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Speaker 1: he ran out of the back swung, got the backfield

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Speaker 1: a forty seven yard touchdown. H Dallas guard that caught one.

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Speaker 1: You know. They run that zone read and then the

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Speaker 1: tight end like he's gonna block, but he goes slides

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Speaker 1: to the flag out a couple of times. But it

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Speaker 1: wasn't really nothing. I mean, no big plays. Man. I

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Speaker 1: was watching aj Brown, Yes, sir, man ad ran a

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Speaker 2: He didn't run the curl.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And we had. Look, they taken advantage of

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody getting nothing on him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got something on it me. They ran aj

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Speaker 1: what nothing happened? I was I was surprised how many

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Speaker 1: Benito led the way with two and a half sacks.

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Speaker 1: He had six sacks in the past three games. He

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Speaker 2: Forty forty two yards in forty two what do you

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Speaker 2: what do you think they should have done better? Should

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Speaker 2: they They should have should have played Broncos.

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Speaker 1: They should have put the Broncos on the schedule, that's

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Speaker 1: what they should have done. Then let's start with that.

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Speaker 2: Hold On, I'm trying. I'm trying to understand. What is

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Speaker 2: it that the Eagles didn't do that. They didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: If you watched the Broncos Monday night, what they did

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Speaker 1: to your team, they did worse. They did worse to

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Speaker 2: Right, But you have to understand, my team is handicapped,

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Speaker 2: so there's a reason why your Broncos beat us.

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Speaker 1: So well, what was the Eagles excuse cause we did

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's not get beside ourselves. Now, that's not just

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Speaker 2: Sortland Sudden. Courtland Sutton was mosting your guy quinn Yon

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Speaker 2: show any kind of way I gotta see. I gotta

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Speaker 2: see the film.

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Speaker 1: Do you watch it?

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Speaker 2: I gotta see the all twenty two to get it.

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Speaker 1: Sudden He follows Sudden around.

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Speaker 2: happen is when you have games like this keyon mention

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Speaker 2: right now on the way he playing, the way he's

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Speaker 2: played the first three four weeks. Whatever it is I

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Speaker 2: forgot a week four?

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Speaker 1: Right, week five?

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Speaker 2: Okay, we we we five? His first four weeks, that

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Speaker 2: young bull young bullets is in the conversation for top

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Speaker 2: five this early, this early in his career. He's very good.

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Speaker 2: He's very talented, y'all.

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Speaker 1: He's phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I hate to do comparison, but if I'm

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Speaker 2: he's just like goddamn Denzel Ward. Damn there from a

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Speaker 2: So if Courtland Sudden did have eight for eight for

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Speaker 2: Kean Missus strength because that advantage goes to Courtland Sunton,

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Speaker 2: who is the taller, bigger individual. But listen, he can

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Speaker 2: lose a game. He can lose a game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. But but see now,

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Speaker 1: now AJ can get their attention. Yeah. You see when

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Speaker 1: Every Oh no, bro, people ain't gonna let sa Quan

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Speaker 1: go crazy like he went last year. You know uh uh,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. Lane Johnson been dealing with stuff all year long,

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Speaker 1: we used to see. That's not the that's not the

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Speaker 1: same Eagles lineup, and so the uh what started at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. They taking their lumps and bruises.

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Speaker 1: They're taking some mumps right now. They sacked both twice.

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Speaker 1: But I thought I thought overall he played well. He

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Speaker 1: missed the throw here there. It looks he's only in

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Speaker 1: that won the Super Bowl last year, the Broncos had

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Speaker 1: to be They have to feel really good about what

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Speaker 1: they were able to do today. They like if I'm

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Speaker 1: Sean paying them saying, see, this is what we're capable

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Speaker 1: of doing. We we don't have to take a back

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Speaker 1: seat to anybody. When we have a great week of practice,

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Speaker 1: when we pay attention to details, when we take care

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Speaker 1: of what we're supposed to take care of clean game,

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Speaker 1: no turnovers. We can go, we can go on the road,

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Speaker 1: or we can be anybody anywhere at any time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it. I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 2: I listen. What I wouldn't do is that, what I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't get too high up from my bridges. You know.

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Speaker 2: Don't count your chicken before you don't. Don't couch your

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Speaker 2: egg before. Don't catch a chicken before the egg you said,

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Speaker 2: you said out of.

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Speaker 1: Saying, don't count your chicken before they hatch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. Yeah, yeah, don't do that, y'all. Y'all want

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Speaker 2: to y'all want already hatch. Listen, y'all, y'all, y'all get

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl champs. But when it comes time when

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Speaker 2: we talk about after Thanksgiving, when real football season starts,

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Speaker 2: we talk about playoff football, are y'all still gonna be

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Speaker 2: in the chase?

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Speaker 1: Y'all know who won't y'all won't be listen, First of all,

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Speaker 1: who is y'all we talked about?

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Speaker 2: We talked about the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: We see where we are. You'll see what we are with, y'all, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Two and three? Who told you that don't with y'all

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Speaker 2: three and two better than y'all whatever, whatever y'all are?

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Speaker 2: We not okay, Okay, I don't know what we are.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what we are off the top of

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Speaker 2: my head. We are what y'all are. So let me

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Speaker 2: tell you something. Are you excited? You excited? Where you

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Speaker 2: all at right now? You you're happy about today's win?

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Speaker 1: Everything I told you? I said, don't show y'all will

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Speaker 1: y'all first two games and y'all losing the next three?

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Speaker 2: Chat?

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Speaker 1: Did I tell him that?

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Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on, this is what you're not gonna do. This,

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Speaker 2: this is what we're not gonna do. See in the chat.

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Speaker 2: Should have a better understanding for me. For me, I

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Speaker 2: have to My faith is always gonna lie with my bang.

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Speaker 2: Would you hear me? If I cut myself right now,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna bleed orange and black. See that's what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: So I understand. I understand that you understand as well,

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Speaker 2: our chances of continuency and winning games, our quarterback playing

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Speaker 2: he's out. He's out now, I know he's out. But

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Speaker 2: I still have to keep my faith and my love

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Speaker 2: and my allegiance to my team. Unlike most people. When

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Speaker 2: the quarterback goes down, they like to jump ship.

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Speaker 1: What it's your right there? When they when they when

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Speaker 1: they're going to win another game? When day? When day?

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Speaker 1: When they're going to win another game?

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Speaker 2: Birth if there was any more time on the clock.

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Speaker 2: Whenever we get to that game, we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: When we get to that game, we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Boy, y'all could have played another y'all could have played

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Speaker 1: another four quarters. They should have. You better be glad

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Speaker 1: that they took a knee.

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Speaker 2: Hey be careful, because we played another four quarters, we

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Speaker 2: might have come back and won that game.

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Speaker 1: They could have played till tomorrow, and y'all still wouldn't

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Speaker 1: winning that game.

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Speaker 2: You don't do that. You saw, yeah, you saw you

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Speaker 2: saw number six and the number one, and they they started,

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody talking about no bingles? Right now? We got

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Speaker 1: To get okay, I'll let you know right now. You

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey, hey, hey you and you show and you show.

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Speaker 2: It's happy about that? Goddamn that got damn? Oh whoa, whoa?

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa? Oh Joe, this is so unnecessary. No, I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, calm down, and you mighty happy boy

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Speaker 2: What's the next game? Were talking about it?

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Speaker 1: It's not that serious, guy, it's not that serious.

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Speaker 2: It's serious. It's serious. Pull out Sharaba's helm in that.

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Speaker 1: Whoa. We discussing the Bronco. We talked about Bronco Country.

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Speaker 2: We talked, Hey, that game is over, let's talk about Saraba.

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Speaker 1: Whoa damn? Okay, not a j Brown, but DeVonta Smith

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Speaker 2: Not a year three two. Now, this is one of

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Speaker 2: he's selfish. No, all players, all players want to be

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Speaker 2: is always we're the type of team We're gonna run

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Speaker 1: Is I me personally? Me personally? Oh yo? I think

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Speaker 1: Davante was trying to help Jalen by saying there was

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Speaker 1: just now, we just look this bad. They look bad

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Speaker 1: o yoe. They did. There are stretches there where they

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Speaker 1: look I was like, well, damn, did y'all practice that bad? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, you said, did they practice and they look

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean there are stretches where they that bad

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Speaker 2: Practicing when it comes to the passing game. You mean, yes, yes, okay, but.

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Speaker 1: Teams are not gonna let them run ojo.

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Speaker 1: And I said this, people think the way you win

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Speaker 2: I got a question. Yes, if teams aren't allowing Saquon

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Speaker 2: one on one on the outsides. Yesh, it wouldn't be any problem.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, Ojo, when you really look at it,

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Speaker 1: if you really look at Philly's offense, it's really simplistic. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you look at you but you look at

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Speaker 1: Yestivity in the Lions, you won in a simplistic form.

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Speaker 1: The likelihood you're gonna have to complicate. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: No, they're not. But I think in order for them

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Speaker 2: That's not them.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not their recipere Ojo eleven carries. They had

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Speaker 1: They couldn't get anything running, Okay, so you had no

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna run it? Are they gonna throw it?

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Speaker 1: We really don't know. Well, they can't run the football

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Speaker 2: It because they not because the running game is not

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Speaker 1: But uh we just put we put you know, put

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Speaker 1: of disappointing teams, is there any more disappointing team than

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Speaker 2: Whoa?

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Speaker 2: Wait? Hold on? Why we hold why? Why were going

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Speaker 1: That's okay?

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Speaker 2: The Ray the Ravens played at one o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Y'all played, We go, We we started from we start

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Speaker 2: Oh that's what we're doing. Yep, okay, Well go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Let let's let's talk about let's talk about my mom?

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Speaker 2: Oh whoa, whoa?

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Speaker 1: I mean you do an awful lot of talking for

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Speaker 2: Wait by who?

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Speaker 1: Jared Golf was nineteen of twenty three. That means he

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Speaker 2: Damn three.

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Speaker 1: David Montgomery even threw a touchdown. So in the actuality

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Speaker 2: Hey, can I can I tell you something real quick?

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Speaker 1: Hey? I've been went home, He went home.

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Speaker 2: They went home. Hey, listen, he came home and showed out.

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Speaker 2: He came home and showed out. But let's let's understand

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Speaker 2: something for one before I even start me. I got

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Speaker 2: a chance to see Kirby, I got to see Jamo,

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Speaker 2: I got to see Aman Ross, Saint Brown, got to

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Speaker 1: Now you had the showing that you have.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Jake Brown and Hunk. We are not a good

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Speaker 2: enough team. We are not a good enough team to

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Speaker 2: We got to be able to protect the ball. We

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Speaker 2: got to be a protective ball. God, damn Jamar, Chase,

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Speaker 2: do you know what off? They thought that you know

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Speaker 2: He did his best. Chase did his best. I would

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Speaker 2: love for us to get everyone else involved. I would

435
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 2: love for us to get everyone else involved. We have

436
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: to do a better line, a better job up front.

437
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Speaker 1: Unk.

438
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 2: We got to do a better job up front. Jake

439
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,159
Speaker 2: brin and running around for his life is one of

440
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: the reasons why Joe Burrow's hurt. I'm not saying them

441
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: names and not calling them names. For those who were

442
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 2: able to watch the game, you understand that you understand

443
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 2: that we did the best we could as a team. Defensively,

444
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: I thought we played well. I thought we played well. Basically,

445
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 2: you gave up thirty seven. Yeah, listen, listen. We gave

446
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: up thirty seven to a team that's probably ranked number

447
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: maybe one, number one.

448
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: They took a knee on the ten yard line.

449
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to listen. You don't want

450
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 2: to be disrespectful to us.

451
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to be disrespectful.

452
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, they won the game. It's a good team.

453
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: But again, I want to be openly and blatantly disrespectful.

454
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, listen. It was a great win for the Lions.

455
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 2: It was a great win for the Lions. I had

456
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: a great time meeting many Lions fans. You know this

457
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: past three days. I salute y'all. I love you. It's

458
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: nothing but mutual respect. With the trash talk that we

459
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Speaker 2: were doing. But as you know, my faithful, my faithfulness,

460
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 2: and my allegiance will always lie here. It will always

461
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: lie with this. And I got to talk. I got

462
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Speaker 2: to talk, and we lost a day and I buy

463
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Speaker 2: my head with grace, and y'all won the game. And

464
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Speaker 2: it's nothing beloved, it's nothing beloved.

465
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Speaker 1: But it ain't no love. It is a better hatred. No,

466
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Speaker 1: it ain't all terrible.

467
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, get.

468
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Speaker 1: All that talking now, look at you.

469
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's okay, listen. I can sit here and

470
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: say we lost.

471
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Speaker 1: And I bet changed with the dB In high school too,

472
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: he could tackle. He had three tackles in.

473
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Speaker 2: The look at one point, Chase leading leading in tackles

474
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Speaker 2: on that when I know that he playing on offense.

475
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Speaker 2: That's okay. I have a question for you, UNC and Chad.

476
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 2: I have a question for y'all too. Do you think

477
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: I love I love Zach Taylor. I love Zach Taylor,

478
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: and I hate that people are saying, oh, the coach

479
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 2: needs to be fired and all this. Listen, it don't

480
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: matter who you're bringing them. Goddamn you can have Jesus coaching,

481
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 2: but when Jesus called them plays, it's our job to

482
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: execute him. It's eleven people out there on the field.

483
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Speaker 2: For one ain't running no offense. She ain't running no

484
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Speaker 2: goddamn offense. And if he ain't, got nobody blocking for

485
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Speaker 2: whoever at the quarterback position. We can start there. That

486
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: ain't got shit to do with Zach Taylor. We can

487
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 2: start there. But do you think do you think we

488
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Speaker 2: need to make a move and go get another quarterback?

489
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Speaker 2: I just want to know, because we only to where

490
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: you gonna get him from Amazon?

491
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: Cause you talking, you talking like they got one that

492
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: you can order from Amazon and they give it to.

493
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Speaker 2: You to day. If you get him next day, listen,

494
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: you know the game. You know the game. I know

495
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: the game. When yes, like this, do you want to

496
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: salvage the season, in some in some, in some.

497
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Speaker 1: No, you're not going savage. Nothing on Joe. Y'all gonna

498
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: be done by things. If y'all be done, y'all will

499
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: be done by Halloween. Oh listen, y'all is not coming

500
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Speaker 1: back this year.

501
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about Joe coming back. I'm saying getting

502
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Speaker 2: someone in there at the quarter of or position that

503
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Speaker 2: can facilitate the ball and protect it at the same time.

504
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Speaker 1: No, that's all why they still sticking with me. I

505
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: don't know who you're back up with the Jake Browning,

506
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: but I don't believe you're bringing somebody off the street.

507
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. Over the last three games, you guys have

508
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: been outscored one thirteen to seven. The seventy six point

509
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: differential narrowly missed the record eighty worst three games, stretching

510
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: franchise history. Bengals have three other quarterbacks on the roster,

511
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Speaker 1: Brett Rippen who played for the Broncos, Mike White, who

512
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: played for the He played for the Jets and the Dolphins,

513
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: and Sean Clifford on the practice squad. Jake Browning threw

514
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: three touch interceptions and he had three touchdowns in garbage time.

515
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Speaker 1: They don't mean nothing. Brianni was booed after several drives

516
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Speaker 1: in the first half. At one part he was booed,

517
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: and he led the offense as he led the offense

518
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: on the field. Browning had thrown has thrown eight interceptions

519
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: in four games.

520
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Speaker 2: So you heard what you just said. He's thrown eight

521
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Speaker 2: interceptions the four games and you still think there's not

522
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: a quality backup that's on another team. I don't want

523
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: to say no names that can come in and.

524
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Speaker 1: Get no as he knows your offense the best, your

525
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Speaker 1: offensive line. That still they have an address, I mean

526
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: they haven't address that.

527
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: Uh.

528
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: And your defense now good. I granted that you you

529
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: know you turn the ball over three times a day,

530
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Speaker 1: three but do you go back and look at over

531
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Speaker 1: the last but tell I mean the Broncos beat the

532
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: breaks off, y'all. The team before that beat the breaks off. Y'all. Y'all.

533
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: Defense isn't any good. I mean, I wish I could

534
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: give it to and say make it better, but I can't. Y'all,

535
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: defense aren't Your defense isn't very good. And when your

536
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: defense isn't good, and because Harry is the thing, your

537
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: defense is the worst part of your team. Your offense

538
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: is bad and turning the ball over. So the worst

539
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: part of your team is playing the most. The last

540
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Speaker 1: thing that you want, O Joe. You want the best

541
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Speaker 1: part of your team to play the most. You want

542
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 1: your offense to be on the field. Now your offense

543
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: is turning the ball over, putting the worst part on

544
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Speaker 1: the field.

545
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Speaker 2: I don't you know what? You know? What can I

546
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 2: take something? Yes, I don't like the way you worded that.

547
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm just saying I don't like the way

548
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: you worded that. I think. I think. I don't want

549
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: to say we're gonna be all right, y'all not let

550
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: me finish, Let me finish, Let me have a little faith,

551
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: Let me let me have a little faith. Okay, we

552
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: got to have better quarterback play. The fact that you know,

553
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: Joe was out for us to even have a chance

554
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: to be able to compete every Sunday. No matter who

555
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: the hell we plan, we can't turn the ball over.

556
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Speaker 1: Y'all can't trade for Andy Dalton.

557
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: Uh huh? Where Andy at?

558
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: We're Indy at Carolina.

559
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: No, we need a gunslinger. We need a gunslinger. Somebody

560
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: that's that that's gonna, that's gonna let that thing. Rip

561
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: you hear me, somebody read that, someone that that is experienced,

562
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: that has veteran presence. Okay, now we're talking.

563
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: Now you say you somebody to let it real. Jamie's

564
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna throw now now now we're talking. Now here's the thing,

565
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: O Joe, talk to him. You're gonna have three touchdown passes. Yeah,

566
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: he gonna have three other sceptions tonight he gonna throw.

567
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: He gonna throw for three three fifty, four hundred.

568
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: Four hundred, he gonna throw. But just so you know,

569
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, listen, I love you.

570
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: Remember that game last year against the Broncos for ninety

571
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: seven we had three pigs in the football.

572
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm saying, what you would you rather us

573
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: us having Jamis or having someone at the quart of

574
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: position that can that can give us four ninety seven

575
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: or five hundred years passing and at least.

576
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: Have usure Chasing Higgins would like that. I said, I'm

577
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: sure Chasing Higgins would like that. Somebody's gonna throw the balls,

578
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: yeah for sure.

579
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Speaker 2: So if we're gonna have a chance, if you say

580
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 2: our defense is bad, if we're gonna have a chance,

581
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: we gotta throw the kitchen sink Oh, well, we can

582
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: salvage in this season. We're just two and three NW.

583
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: We just took three. You never knew, you know, you

584
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: never knew what happened. If I'm not I was thinking

585
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: we second in division? Yeah, yeah, we second in division.

586
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: Now we have time.

587
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: But I don't think but given the circumstances in this division,

588
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there's only one team going out of

589
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 1: the division. Now. It might be a situation where you

590
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: get three teams out of the AFC West, the Broncos,

591
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and the Chiefs.

592
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: So what you are? You just are you?

593
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: But think about it? Oho, you got you gotta look

594
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: at you gotta look at the AFC South Jacksonville. That's

595
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: one game ended lost one game. You saw the Texans

596
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: win today?

597
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who the Texas beat today?

598
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: Man, Texas beat There you go, you try to Texas

599
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: be today? You know who that beat today?

600
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: I got?

601
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: I Gotgomery scored a touchdown in the same game for

602
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: the fourteenth time, eyeing an NFL record.

603
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: Hey, can I tell you something?

604
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: Huh?

605
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: You know, can I tell you something? You notice your

606
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: first time the Lions the Bengals in nineteen ninety.

607
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Two, it won't be the last time.

608
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: Because I ain't never I ain't never lost to him.

609
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: Y'all have probably an't never played the Lions.

610
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: We played the Lions twice. I had Drake Blybs on me,

611
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: Drake Blybers on me. That'm my boy and my boy

612
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: when we played him here in Cincinnati. But remember Louis Delmas. Yeah, yeah, hey,

613
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: hey that well that boy. Know we can hit, boy,

614
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: you know we can hit. But we ain't never lost

615
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: to them. But again, salute to all the Lions fans.

616
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: I know it's a lot of y'all in the chat

617
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: that are watching the night. I salute you. Y'all won

618
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: the game. If I met you. It's all love, It's

619
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: all love. And I'm gonna get down to Detroit. I

620
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: promise him. I'll come down to Detroit and sit in

621
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: the stands afford the field and watch the game.

622
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: Jay Daniels playing for the first time in two weeks

623
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: through and he was cooking back at home win over

624
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers with thirty nine yards rushed. Today, Daniels became

625
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: the first player in NFL history with four more four

626
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: thousand or more pass yards and a thousand or more

627
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: rush yards in his first twenty games. Justin Herbert was

628
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: under the rest, sacked four times, took nine quarterback hits,

629
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: pressured twelve times before being replaced by Trey Lance. Herbert

630
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: averaged three point three yards per pass attempt and through

631
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: his only interception when pressured by the Commanders. Man, they

632
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: got after Mojo.

633
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, they got after them good. They got off

634
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: them real good. And this is the definition of when

635
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: I always say, any given Sunday, anything could happen as

636
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: good as the Charges of look since the beginning of

637
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: the season. Today they ain't look like themselves, not at all,

638
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: not at all. And you expect if you're a betman,

639
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: if you're betman, Jaydon Danis's first game coming back, he's

640
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: coming off injury. So hey, if I'm a betman, I'm

641
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: betting with the Charges to win this one. Yeah, NLA

642
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: two at that I'm gonna spoil Jane Daniels coming back

643
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: to LA playing at home. And it absolutely did not happen.

644
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: It did not happen. Jaye Daniels fifteen or twenty six

645
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: two thirty one one touchdowns. They ran the ball extremely well,

646
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: twenty eight rushes, one hundred and sixty three yards. Debo

647
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: got in on the action eight for ninety six and

648
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Luke McCaffrey had a tremendous fifty yard catch

649
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: to set him up for a touchdown. Keenan Allen became

650
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: the fastest player in NFL history to collect one thousand catches.

651
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: It took him one hundred and fifty nine games.

652
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: Damn what hey, they been uditioned boy at ball man

653
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: A thousand?

654
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Huh a thousand? He got one thousand and one hundred

655
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: and fifty nine games.

656
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, how many catches you got on eight

657
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand?

658
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: I went on thousand.

659
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: That's that's wow.

660
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be routine. Now people gonna think if

661
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: you don't have a thousand catches now if people gonna

662
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: thank you were a bum. If you're receiver, you have

663
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: to that.

664
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: People have to also understand that the game has changed.

665
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's why I say, if you don't have

666
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: a thousand catches now, it ain't like when when I

667
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: came in and you came in, it was extraordinary, got

668
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: like that A thousand? Yeah, well I remember when Jerry

669
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: had like a thousand. Damn that's that's and then you know,

670
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: so now, I mean you probably got what you probably

671
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: got how many guys got a thousand catches? At least

672
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: twelve many, maybe more, maybe more, right, Chris Carter, Tim Brown,

673
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: t O Jerry fifteen Yeah, Hines, Ward's got a thousand,

674
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: You got tight Ends, you got Kelsey, you got on

675
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: soo right. I think he got a thousand, got a

676
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Lad fitz Gerald have a thousand.

677
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Hey man, but the boy was getting that rock boy? Hey, well,

678
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: how many? How many I got?

679
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: D Hop has nine eighty nine, He'll get a thousand

680
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: this year. Jesus Christ Davonte got nine seventy nine.

681
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: What I got? What I got? I need to come

682
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: back and play.

683
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: You got seven sixty six.

684
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: That's it? Yeah, I was sorry as hell. I damn

685
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: I think what I think?

686
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: When I retired, I was in the top tien it

687
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: dropped now. Jared Rice leaves the Way fifteen hundred and

688
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: forty nine, Laugh fitz Gerald fourteen thirty two, Tony Gunzales

689
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: thirteen twenty five, Jason Whitten twelve twenty eight, Marvin Harrison

690
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: eleven oh two, Chris Carter eleven oh one, Tim Brown

691
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: one thousand, ninety four, t O one thousand, seventy eight,

692
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: and Kwan one thousand, seventy six, Reggie Wayne one thousand

693
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: and seventy, Andre Johnson one thousand and sixty two, Steve

694
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: Smith one thousand, thirty one, Isaac Bruce one thy twenty four,

695
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey one thousand, nineteen, Hines Ward has a thousand,

696
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen just a thousand. So what year this for?

697
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: What year this for? Keenan? You're eleven twelve, You're thirteen.

698
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: Boy, boy, willing and dealing. Boy.

699
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: I'm thirty ninth, Oh Joe, that's dope, dope. And when

700
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I left in the top ten, so I ain't in

701
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: the top ten no more. He The Raiders were handed

702
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: a forty six forty to six drubbing by the coach

703
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: and Lucas Oil. Jonathan Taylor ran for three touchdowns and

704
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: a two part conversion. Indiana Jones Daniel Indiana Jones threw

705
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: for two touchdowns while playing another turnover free game, and

706
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis coach remained perfect at home. The Raiders are

707
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: one and four were start to Pete Carroll, coach head

708
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: coaching career. I'm processing it poorly, to tell you the truth,

709
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: because I didn't expect. I did expect to win, win

710
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: right out of the shoots.

711
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's I mean, are you supposed to

712
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: say something like that as a head coach? Is that

713
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: supposed to be every ing?

714
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think I mean ask ask Sean McDermott.

715
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: Did he think he was gonna win? Hell? That coach

716
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: that they gonna win? But how you gonna win when

717
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: your quarterback have three turnovers? I mean, Gino didn't play

718
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: good today. He had to excuse me. He had two turnovers,

719
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: two picks bad Indiana Jones twenty or twenty nine to twelve,

720
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: two touchdowns relieved by Anthony Richardson. Jonathan Taylor seventeen carries,

721
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: sixty six yards, three touchdowns. I mean, the Raiders aren't

722
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: good enough to overcome the mistakes that.

723
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: You know, no, no, no, no.

724
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: No, not You're not that, You're not. They're not good enough,

725
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: not at all.

726
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe one, two, maybe three teams that are

727
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 2: good enough to overcome multiple multiple Kansas City Chiefs are

728
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: one of them. The Bills are another one, and maybe

729
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson when their team is at full health, at

730
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: full strength.

731
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: But we saw, we saw the Bills not able to

732
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: overcome turnover tonight. It all depends on who you playing.

733
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: You're playing a good team.

734
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: You ain't overcoming O careerity, absolutely not, absolutely not.

735
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: And now what happens is when you turn the ball over.

736
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: One or two things happened. You either bring the team

737
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: up to your level or you take go down to their.

738
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: Level one or the other. Yeah, oh you know what,

739
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: let me throw the Lions in that conversation as well.

740
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah and so, but the Lions. I think Indiana is

741
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: getting everything they look. It's five games into the season,

742
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: but I don't think the season could have gone any

743
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: better other than the untimely passing up their owner, Jim Mersay,

744
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: I don't think the season could have gone any better

745
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: for this ball club, O Joe. I mean, Daniel Jones

746
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: has giving them everything that they could have hoped for,

747
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: and more so, they only had to throw it twenty

748
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: nine times, which is not a lot. Twenty nine twenty

749
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: five rushes. So I think I think the season is

750
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: going unbelievably well. Yeah, for the UH, for the UH,

751
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis.

752
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: Coachs it's Daniel Jones. Listen, as much as I said

753
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 2: about him, I gotta take all that back. I gotta

754
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: take anything anything negative I said about Daniel Jones. Maybe

755
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: maybe maybe it is the Giants, And you don't want

756
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: to say maybe it is a Giants because goddamn Jackson Dark,

757
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: even though they lost the day, he cutting up. He's

758
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: cutting up so easy.

759
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Well, let's get to that game now. As you mentioned that,

760
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: the Saints get their first win over mistake prone Giants.

761
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: Giants rookie Jackson Dark pass for two touches, two hundred

762
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: and two yards and two touchdowns, but turned the ball

763
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: over three times. Even scat Pack had a turnover. They

764
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: had they had five total turnovers and they lost three fumbles.

765
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: Darius Slave lost the fumble, Jackson Dark lost lost the fumble,

766
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: and scat Pack lost the fumble. Three turnovers, five turnovers

767
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: Spencer Radler twenty one to thirty one, two twenty five

768
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: and the touchdowns. Shaheed had four catches fourteen of the

769
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: touchdown including an eighty seven yarder Joe. The Giants were

770
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: in cruise control and then they started turning the ball over.

771
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: They turned the ball over like four knsecutive possessions and

772
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: this is what you get.

773
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely rashi he Rashid she heat. You know, I got

774
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: a nice little tweet you say you need to fix

775
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: my speed on Madden.

776
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: Oh, no, nothing, he can run for real.

777
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: Yeah he can go now, he can scat, he can go.

778
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

779
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: That was that was a good game.

780
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: They get on the side and I know Jackson Dark

781
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: wanted to you know, he wanted to play well, but

782
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: he was playing well, and then he just started turning

783
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: the ball over and that fumble really hurt them. Scat

784
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: pack FuMB of the ball and the guy runs at

785
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: back eighty seven yard for the touchdown and they level

786
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: look back after that, the Carolina Panthers overcame. Ooh, that's

787
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: what you ought to be ashamed of yourself, O Joe.

788
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: Oh, we talked about this game already.

789
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: No, we're talking about it. Carolina Panthers overcame a seventeen

790
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: point first half deficit to beat your Miami Dolphins twenty

791
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: seven to twenty four.

792
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: We need a little help on two up.

793
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Six three touchdowns, clean game. But Jay Luada has six

794
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: four bucks ten, Darren Waller had five for seventy eight

795
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: and the touchdown. Devon e Chan had six for thirty

796
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Bryce Young nineteen or thirty one ninety

797
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: eight two touchdowns, but it was Rico dot Dll not

798
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: deal twenty three carries two o six He's the third

799
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Panther to go over two hy yards Russian thirty two

800
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: rushers two hundred and thirty nine yards. They play, If

801
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, they playing Cowboys next week? Right? Doesn't

802
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: Carolina play the Cowboys next week?

803
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: Already?

804
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? He said I'm gonna get out and say I

805
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: want all that. He want all that?

806
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 2: So, hey, all right, my dolphins, My dolphins be gonna

807
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: be alright. Uhuh, Dolphin's gonna be alright.

808
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: No, y'all not. I don't know why you keep saying that,

809
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: but y'all not gonna be alright?

810
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? Yeah, the Dolphins is in

811
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: a better position in the Ravens. You know that, right?

812
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah? But else is that?

813
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: I just I'm hoping you understand what you mean, better position,

814
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: a better position going forward?

815
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: One about to get eaten by crocodile, the other about

816
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: getting eaten by shark.

817
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: You think so yeah, you say you sound you sound

818
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: real confident.

819
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean the Broncos, Oh, joe up. Dylan Gabriel had

820
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: a solid rookie debut despite the Browns losing. Dylan Gabriel

821
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: was nineteen or thirty three one hundred and ninety yards

822
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, matching Joe Flacco touchdown throws on the season.

823
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: With the defeat, Brown's quarterbacks are oh and seventeen in

824
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: their first start since nineteen ninety five, the longest such

825
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: streak since nineteen fifty, when quarterback starts were first recorded. Ojo,

826
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: after watching him start early after watching his first start,

827
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: what do you think about Gabriel? What you like?

828
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel looked good. He looked really good. And Stefanski

829
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: the Fancy called one hell of a game, a very

830
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: balanced game. To run the pass was damn near equivalent.

831
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel processing, dropping back, going marid read one, read two,

832
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: read three. Okay, it's not there, Boom, I'm dumbing it

833
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: off to the flat. Everything he did in today's game

834
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: was extremely clean, extremely keen. Defense played well. They didn't

835
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: get to win. But what I saw from Dylan Gabriel,

836
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: and it pains me to say this as a Bengals fan,

837
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: is he looked efing phenomenal. He looked great. They really

838
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: have something good to build off of when it goes

839
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: when it comes to the film room. Based on whoever

840
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: they play next week, he gonna be he gonna be

841
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna be fine. He's gonna be fine, especially with

842
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: the way he played and knowing Brian Florey in that

843
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: defense and knowing how you can dialop that pressure and

844
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: try to rattle a young quarterback. And he wasn't rattled

845
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: it all. He handled everything extremely well.

846
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: He did. I thought he played well. And like you said,

847
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: considering that what he was, who he was facing as

848
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: the DC, and the kind of exotic looks that Minnesota

849
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: can throw at you and the kind of pressure they

850
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: can generate, I thought he played. I thought he played

851
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: really well. They did a great job of getting the

852
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: ball out of his hand. Knew they were going to

853
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: try to put pressure on him, try to disguise it.

854
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: Judkins run the ball, ran the ball extremely well. Twenty

855
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: three carries a buck ten, so they ran the ball

856
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: well enough so you just couldn't pin your ears back

857
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: and fly try to get the quarterback. I like what

858
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: I saw. I really liked what I saw. Look, Carson

859
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: Wentz played well. This is why you get a veteran

860
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: like Carson Wentz, a guy that could hold the ship

861
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: steady until your captain comes back. He called a ward.

862
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Getting sneaky, you see him running three step face. He

863
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: run a three step face go route on cover two

864
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: and you see what they ran. They ran what the

865
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: defense called it the yoga, what we call it a

866
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: stick and war. We're looking inside and saw the stick,

867
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: and he saw what you call a pull up. He

868
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: didn't realize he would throw the whole shot right behind him.

869
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: That was That was a heck of her throw. Addison

870
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: did a great job of staying wide because that saved

871
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: you coming.

872
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, getting you do a great job.

873
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: Of staying wide. Let him pick a spend yourself to

874
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: the sideline because if you get too far inside, kill shot.

875
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: Great great throw by Wins, great route by Addison. But

876
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: I like I like Gabriel. I like what I saw. Look,

877
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: it's one game. But I thought, considering on the road

878
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: and overseas in London, Brian Flores can do a lot

879
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: of different things, and he confused a lot of quarterbacks.

880
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: But I thought they did a I thought Cleveland did

881
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: a great job putting Dylan Gabriel in a situation where

882
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: he could have success. They didn't get to win. But

883
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: if I'm Cleveland, I'm like, Okay, I think we might have.

884
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: Something without without the wind. I'm feeling good about that.

885
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good about that. Defensively, they canna always handle

886
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: their business offensively. That's always been the struggles. What offense

887
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: are we gonna get? Now? Get this offense that we

888
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: saw today where there was a heavy dose of run,

889
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: there was a heavy dose of pass, and he made

890
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: all the right decisions with the ball and didn't put

891
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: the ball in harm's way. We can live with that. Well,

892
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: excuse me, now, they can live with that. Yeah, he

893
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: looked good, he looked he looked really good today, and.

894
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: It's reported I guess Adison was bitched because I don't know.

895
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: I mean they talked about because I read in the

896
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: paper that he played really well considering that he was bitch. Now,

897
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know the backdrop of the story. I don't

898
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: know if he did something while he was over there

899
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: in London. Maybe he best bedcheck, maybe he was late

900
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: to practice lake to a meeting or something. But he

901
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: was reported that he was go ahead.

902
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: I think it might be a continuous, a continuous on

903
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: the suspension and them actually still having punishment for him

904
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: as well. Why I say, you never know. You never know,

905
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: because if I'm not mistaken, I might not be wrong.

906
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: I think he set out with the first quarter. I

907
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: think he said at the first quarter or something like that. Yeah,

908
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: I think he might have had to sit out the

909
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: first quarter of the last game as well. I couldn't

910
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: be wrong. I could be wrong. I'm not sure. But

911
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: when he did when he.

912
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: Was bench because he wanted to explore London and missed

913
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: the walkthrough th real that is what is being reported.

914
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, ain't nobody. Look, this ain't college. He came

915
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: off suspension. He was suspended for three games by the NFL.

916
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: He played well, would why would I? Why would I

917
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: suspend him again? That hurts me? Yeah?

918
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, would you say he wondered what he wanted

919
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: to explore London? Hey, you can't do that, man, You

920
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: can't do that, man, bro.

921
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: The last thing I would want to do is be alone,

922
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: considering what happened to the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback. The last

923
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: thing I want to be in a foreign country as

924
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: an American. I don't know if they noticed it, but

925
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: we're not thought of too how in other parts of

926
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: the world. It's just I'm just throwing that out there.

927
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: O Jo, We're not we.

928
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: Gotta understand over in London, is a lot of a

929
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: lot of us over there, a lot of them, a

930
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: lot of them.

931
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: So we're not thought of very highly in other parts

932
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: of the country, be it London, be at Ireland, be

933
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: it anywhere you are an Americans. Americans right now are

934
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: not very hot, thought of in a very regard.

935
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: I understand.

936
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: And there's a and they probably said, look, security, we

937
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 1: have security here. Just make sure X, Y and Z. Right. Hey,

938
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: that's his Hey, he wanted to do it. He did

939
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: what he wanted to do.

940
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: Oho, Yeah, you're right. You can't do that.

941
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: Today though, Ojo. Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks. Boy, boy, boy,

942
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: what a game. Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald. Baker Mayfield

943
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: twenty nine of thirty three three seventy nine, two touchdowns,

944
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: no interceptions, Sam Donald twenty eight to thirty four three

945
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: forty one, four touchdown. But it was that last turnover

946
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: he throwing. It looked like he had a first look

947
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: like it was gonna be a touchdown. And his the

948
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: guy Helmet Levonte, if you wont if you want to

949
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: play well the NFL. Look at everybody that came and

950
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: talked to Old Joe and I Darren Waller had another touchdown.

951
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: Levonte David had a big time pick. Go back and

952
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: look at the guy that's talking to Henley been bawling.

953
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody having success. Huh. Rashaan Gary who Gary?

954
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, Rashan get yeah yeah, Rashon Garrett.

955
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, got damn got five sacks.

956
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

957
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: We only in week five.

958
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Yes, this was an unbelievable game. Thirty eight thirty five Tampa.

959
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: They scored fifteen points in they scored ten points in

960
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: the second quarter, fifteen points in the third quarter, ten

961
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. But it was the game

962
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: winning kick. They win thirty eight to thirty five. And

963
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: it seems like Tampa is always involved in games like this.

964
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: O shoe. Remember at the Atlanta game. I mean all

965
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: their games have basically they won, have been three points less.

966
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: Hold on, we got to talk about it. Make up

967
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: BOOKA rookie Ibuka Oh yeah, oh yeah, yea yeah yeah

968
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: yah yeah.

969
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: Abuka was crazy. Jackson Smith and Jigba like, hey, it's

970
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: the baill of Ohio State. Who better Ibuka? The meccale

971
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: Buka seven catches a buck sixty three one tub Jackson

972
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbu js and eight catches a buck thirty two.

973
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: Another tub they had nine targets, eight catches. The other

974
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: hell was seven for seven. A Mecca of Buoka was

975
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: seven targets, seven receptions, a buck sixty three. I mean,

976
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks are throwing the ball out like bro yeah Lett.

977
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: Did anybody bring their defense? That's all I want to do.

978
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: Did anybody bring the defense? Or is it or is

979
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: it optional?

980
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know one thing these young receivers.

981
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 2: I know we all talk about the same top five

982
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: and after the season ends, if JSN any booka keep

983
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: up with what they're doing, we're gonna have that.

984
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: They tried to. They tried to, They tried to crack that.

985
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: They tried to. They definitely tried to crack that top

986
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: ten and they said, man, were trying to get in

987
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: the top five. What you're talking about, We're gonna have

988
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: to have a conversation absolutely, and we're gonna have to

989
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: have a conversation about Baker Mayfield being an MVP discussion

990
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: while you bullgiving.

991
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely now when it comes to the MVP discussion. Also,

992
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna need for Baker Mayfield, no tempy Buccaneers to

993
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: have those wins that win call o yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,

994
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: you keep going on. He definitely could be in that conversation.

995
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, I know right now that Josh

996
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: Allen was the favorite heading into tonight. Justin Herbert was

997
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: up there, but he lost. My homeboy always going to

998
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: be in the discussion that Dak played, dakts throwing the

999
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: football like you said, But at the end of the day,

1000
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to wins and losses. Yeah, you

1001
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: could have stat it's a stat based awards, but they

1002
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: want those stats to go towards winning.

1003
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, and so when you look at it, it's uh,

1004
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: if it was just based on stats, Hill Burrow would

1005
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: the one that God damn MVP last year. If it

1006
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: was stats, we didn't have the ws.

1007
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: Levonte David intercepted Sam Darnold with less than a midic left,

1008
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: setting up Chase mclaughlan's thirty nine yard field goal to

1009
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: earn a thirty eight thirty five walk off victory. The

1010
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: Buccaneers became the first team in NFL history with four

1011
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: wins in their first five games of a season in

1012
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: which they were either tied or were trailing in the

1013
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: final men and of regulation, Seattle. I mean Seattle played well. Man,

1014
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: I was like, well, damn Seat, y'all got it like this. Yeah,

1015
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: and then Baker like, I mean Baker had four incompletions, Yeah,

1016
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: that's crazy four. Sam Donald had six. So the ball

1017
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: hit So they threw sixty seven times and the ball

1018
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: hit the dirt ten times, don't.

1019
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Yo, that's it. I don't think. Do you know how insane?

1020
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Let me take that back. It hit the ball nine

1021
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: times because one I was in the seventy. You can't

1022
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: understand how difficult that is. Yeah, hell yeah, it is

1023
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: for for for two quarterbacks.

1024
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: First round picks, Baker Manfield, Baker Manfield, Cleveland, Sam Donald,

1025
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: New York, and all of a sudden you get to

1026
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: the right situation, and all of a sudden you flourish.

1027
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was third in that draft. Baker Mayfield was first,

1028
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson was second. Yeah, and then Sam Donald

1029
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: was third.

1030
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: It's amazing what happened when you when you when you

1031
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: go to the right situation. Now, situations, situations.

1032
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: Matter, for sure, absolutely absolutely, it absolutely does matter. But

1033
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: this was this was a very very entertaining game. Oh, Joe,

1034
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, they don't learn, but I'm gonna keep

1035
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: letting them do it, so they're gonna learn the hard way,

1036
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: because see, that's what life has a way of teaching

1037
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: us until we learn the lesson that it's trying to teach, right,

1038
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: And you know, guys still won't learn. They want to

1039
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: drop the ball, they want to be allome guy. Has

1040
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: a seventy yard touchdown cost them the game? Yeah? Cost

1041
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: them the game?

1042
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: Was that the Cardinals?

1043
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: Right?

1044
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: No?

1045
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Arizona Cardinals just suffered perhaps the worst wildest

1046
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: lost in the NFL history. They were of twenty one

1047
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: to six in the fourth quarter, fumble crossing the gold

1048
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: line that was gonna put them up twenty eight to six.

1049
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: The fumble and an interception for a touchdown because think this,

1050
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: oh Joe, they had they got calls the fumble, you fumble,

1051
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: kick the ball into the end zone, they jump on

1052
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: and get a touchdown. So now it's twenty one to

1053
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: twelve less than five minutes. Kyle, after the game, I

1054
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: really don't know what to think about that. I don't

1055
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: even know how that's how the loser game one on one,

1056
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was crazy. It was Arizona gave

1057
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: up a twenty one to three lead to the worst

1058
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: team in football became the first franchise since nineteen seventy

1059
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: the NFL ALFL Merger to lose three straight games on

1060
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: game winning field goals. But all you got to do

1061
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: is look at de Mercado. Bro Yes, you cost him

1062
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: the game.

1063
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: Basically, I don't know. So.

1064
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: So the ball was just so heavy you couldn't take

1065
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: it another two feet, Hume. The ball was just so heavy, Oh, Yoe,

1066
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: he just had to drop it. Oh, Joe, you know

1067
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: how you're bringing grocerly in the you truck. If I

1068
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: ain't trying to make but one trip, I'm trying to

1069
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: get all the bags I possibly can. I got ten bags,

1070
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 1: I got five and five. If I got fifteen, I

1071
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: got eight and seven. And you know sometime, don't Joe,

1072
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: you get you? Like I said, who you got a rest?

1073
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: So the ball was that heavy that he just had

1074
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: to sit it down before he got into the end zone.

1075
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: Why is it happening so much because DeShawn Jackson. You

1076
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: started his foolishness. He jack started his foolishness.

1077
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well technically yeah, I started it.

1078
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. College I started there.

1079
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, in college, but I left the reft behind so

1080
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: far he didn't even see it.

1081
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, you did throw the ball back? Yeah,

1082
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: I don't get it. O yo after and we've oh yo,

1083
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: and we've seen it so many times. It just happened

1084
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: last year.

1085
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: It just happened last year.

1086
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 1: We just talked about several times. But yeah, oh oh Jo,

1087
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: remember the Colts the receiver, Oh.

1088
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that just last week.

1089
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: Yes, Amari d Mercado seventy two yard tests down, he

1090
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: dropped the ball at the gold line. Mitchell did the

1091
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: same thing against the Rams last week, Oh joe. How

1092
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 1: many times? At what point in time they didn't start?

1093
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: You know what? And somebody the players are so good

1094
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: you just can't cut them. But bro, why y'all keep

1095
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: doing this? Y'all? You make Sports Center for all the

1096
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: wrong reasons reasons.

1097
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's messed up. That's messed up.

1098
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers beat the Rams in overtime, Oh joe,

1099
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: by the score of twenty six twenty three. Forty nine

1100
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: Ers improved to four and one take over sole possession

1101
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: of first place in the NFC West, while the Rams

1102
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: fall to three and two at the goal line, three

1103
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: down down, three points and about the score, tiring Williams.

1104
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: He fumbled great punch out by the forty nine ers.

1105
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: They get the ball stuffed up because looked like the

1106
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: forty nine ers were gonna potentially win the thing in regulation,

1107
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: but forty nine ers hold them out of the end

1108
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: zone there and then on fourth down on Joe when

1109
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: the rubber really needed to meet the road, because it

1110
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: seems to me they we're going to go for it.

1111
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they were going to play for the

1112
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: tie like we got Sunday night between the Packers and

1113
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: the Package of the Cowboys. It seemed like se Sean

1114
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: McVay was held bent. He wanted to win this game

1115
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: on Joe. He really he wasn't playing for no tie,

1116
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: and he went for it. The question that I have

1117
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: for you, do you like Sean McVay going forward on

1118
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: fourth down or does he kick the field goal and

1119
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: give the forty nineers because the next score wins the

1120
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: ball game?

1121
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like. I like him trying to

1122
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: go for it. I want to get this game over with.

1123
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: We've had some mistakes, we've had some drops, we've had

1124
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: some penalties. We fought back to get back into the game,

1125
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: and I really want to end it right now. I

1126
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: want to end it. So I have no problem with

1127
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: him going forward on fourth and one trying to end

1128
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: that game. Listen, it can go one or two ways.

1129
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: Either you get it or you don't. You didn't get it.

1130
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: The fact that even had the balls and the goals

1131
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: to even go for it in that situation says a lot.

1132
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: And he's one of the few coaches in the NFL

1133
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: who can go for it and take that chance, like

1134
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: a Dan Campbell. You know he's wondered if you can

1135
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: do it.

1136
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I loved it. Also, Ojo, don't. I'm

1137
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: not playing for a tie. I'm down there. I'm in

1138
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: a great position. And you look, look, you had an opportunity.

1139
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: You're right there the goal line. You get a punch out,

1140
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: and now you're down again. And guess what, Ojoe, If

1141
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: I keep the field goal, it's twenty is twenty three

1142
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: twenty next girl wins the ball, wins the game, and

1143
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers are getting the ball back. Now

1144
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: you can say, well, they might fumble it. Nah, I'm

1145
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: not taking that chance. I'm down there. I believe in

1146
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: my offensive line. And but look, Robert Sawah, guess right,

1147
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: he sold out on that side and it stuffed him.

1148
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't even close, Ojoe. I'll be dainty.

1149
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as it happened, bam, bam, guess

1150
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: what forty nineer starts spilling out on the field, thy going.

1151
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams ain't no, I would Hey, let's

1152
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: get a measurement. The Fishers already like it's old going

1153
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: the other way. And these quarterbacks were dealer tonight, Ojo.

1154
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Matt Jones thirty three or forty nine three forty two,

1155
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no interception, Matthew Stafford thirty and forty seven

1156
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: three eighty nine, three touchdowns, no interceptions. I mean, it

1157
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: really was a clean game, with the exception of that

1158
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: one fumble by Kyrin William. That probably is no way

1159
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: to know. But it didn't help them. Now, I'll tell

1160
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: you what. We can't say it cost them the game, Ojoe,

1161
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: but it damn sure did not help them win the game.

1162
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: And the forty nine ers have to feel good losing

1163
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: a game, and like they lost on Sunday on a

1164
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: short week. You're down, Purty, You're down all these guys.

1165
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: Bosa's not coming back. Look at all the guys that

1166
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: they had injured tonight and to have guys step up

1167
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: and rise to the occasion and play as well as

1168
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: they did on a very very short week. Look, I understand,

1169
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: O Joe. It's not like they had to go across

1170
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: country look California. But still you get a short day,

1171
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: a day less to work because you have to travel.

1172
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: But I thought the forty nine is given the situation,

1173
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: given the totality of the situation that they're in, I

1174
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: thought they played extremely well tonight, O Joe. And I

1175
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: think Shanahan should be very very proud of his ball

1176
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: club because they did play well tonight and they found

1177
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: a way to get a win against a division opponent.

1178
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Not only should Kyle Shanahan be proud of his

1179
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: ball club, he needs to take a bow himself with

1180
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: the play calling some of the stuff he did with

1181
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: all the injuries that you just talked about that have

1182
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: mounted up. No Ricky Purcell, no Brandon I you, no

1183
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: George Kittle. From all, Juwan Jennings is out, Juwan Jennings

1184
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: is out, and jo.

1185
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Bosa is not coming back.

1186
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, But from from offer the standpoint, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahyah,

1187
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: all yeah, yeah, yea brother Kendrick Bourne. Brother, Kendrick Bourne.

1188
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna see this salute on the career.

1189
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: Night obviously had some drop last game that have a

1190
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: show weekend come back and rebound and from for Mac

1191
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 2: Jones to be able to have the confidence to keep

1192
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: getting and feeding you the ball. And another thing I

1193
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: want to talk about the quarterback situation. Tonight's game is

1194
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: a perfect example of the definition of next man up

1195
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: when you look at a game like tonight and see

1196
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: what Mac Jones is doing, having a resurgence in his career,

1197
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: which is why I also think where quarterback go situation matters.

1198
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: We saw Mac Jones do it tonight, we see Daniel

1199
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 2: Jones doing in Indianapolis. We're seeing Baker Baker Mayfield do

1200
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: it over there, and now god damn in Tampa Bay.

1201
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: Sam Donald going from Minnesota to Seattle and still doing it. Now.

1202
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: I think where quarterbacks go and what they have surrounding them,

1203
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: including those calling the plays, is so important to a

1204
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: quarterback success the most. Hey yeah, and dude, they look

1205
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 2: really good. This is a really really good game. The

1206
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: Rams didn't really help themselves either with some of the drops.

1207
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: Some of the mistakes, some of the fumbles, but hey,

1208
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: this was probably one of the better, one of the

1209
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: better Thursday Night games we've gotten so far.

1210
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: Hey, the quarterbacks were dealing. Oh yo, Look, you know

1211
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm not big on hyperbole, and I said this at

1212
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: the time. Yes, Sir, I thought the forty nine er

1213
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: should have drafted Mac Jones. Because it's hard for me

1214
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: to I really can't. I really can't differentiate between the two.

1215
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: Are you trying to tell me that you believe if Kyle,

1216
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: if Matt Jones had been in this system for the

1217
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: entirety of his career, because we saw what he did

1218
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: when he had Josh Josh McDaniels, He saw what he did.

1219
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: You're one, yeah, and you're put the team to the

1220
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: playoffs with a Pro Bowl player. Are you telling me

1221
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: if he has Kyle Shanahan for four years, he's not

1222
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: as good, if not better than Brock Party. And guess

1223
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: what if you take I get I get why they

1224
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: didn't because when you looked, when you look at a guy,

1225
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: nothing jumps off at you. He doesn't have Lamar Jackson's speed,

1226
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a Josh Allen's hype, he doesn't have

1227
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes's arm, So why would we take a quarterback

1228
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: that really, Oh Joe is just he's average with the

1229
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: third pick in the draft. But what you wouldn't have

1230
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: had to do is give up all the draft compensation.

1231
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: So imagine as well as they do drafting, what you

1232
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: can put around it. And guess what, even if he

1233
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: doesn't pay it out, O Joe, you go back and

1234
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: you get you another quarterback, or you couldn't go back

1235
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: and get you another quarterback and still guess what, you

1236
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: don't have to spend DOWMN near three hundred million dollars.

1237
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: Me personally, I believe I believe Matt Jones in this system.

1238
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about in this system with Kyle Shanahan

1239
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: with all think about all the pieces that he had,

1240
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: O Joe, Yeah, when he has Kittle, when he has Debo,

1241
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: when he has Ayu, when he has Jennings, when he

1242
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: had Christian McCaffrey, and he got a Trent Williams playing

1243
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,479
Speaker 1: at playing Trent. Not this guy that's beat up. He's

1244
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: trying to work himself back in the conditioning and in

1245
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: his form. It's hard for me to believe that that

1246
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: Matt Jones is not as good, if not as, if

1247
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: not better than Pertyt And for me, I would have

1248
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: taken it, but I understand why they didn't because the measurables.

1249
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: When you look at him, Ojo, You're like, that is

1250
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: not the third pick in the draft, and you draft

1251
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: took a guy with the third pick in the draft

1252
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: because of the measurables. But it was the seventh round

1253
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: draft pick that really saved Kyle Shan a hand in

1254
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: John Lynch's job because you give up that kind of compensation,

1255
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 1: O Joe, and that guy doesn't work out and he

1256
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: didn't work out, right, You're going, yeah, what you think?

1257
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: You think? What you think? Do you think? Do you

1258
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: think Matt Jones party similar party is better, statically better,

1259
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: a little bit marginally better? What you think?

1260
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: It's hard to really decipher between the two on who's

1261
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: better or not because when Brock Party is in there,

1262
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: he's the rhythm and time in quarterback as well, when

1263
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: Mac Jones is in there, he's a rhythm and time

1264
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 2: in quarterback. Well, both suit the system very well. Really

1265
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: not dual threat, not dual threat quarterback. Hell, they are

1266
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: your typical system West Coast type. Off of the quarterbacks

1267
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 2: that are dropped back sometimes the shotgun and to deliver

1268
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: everything off of timing. And they may they make great

1269
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: throws and they're accurate, they're actually enough what they lack

1270
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: and being able to escape, escape the pocket or use

1271
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: their legs running, they make up for in other areas.

1272
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 2: I think, finish your thoat, say they both played well

1273
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 2: doing exactly what's ass of them in that specific system.

1274
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: When you're not that big as far as physical size

1275
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: on Joe six four, you don't have rocket arm, you

1276
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: don't have Lamar Jackson's mobility of Michael Vick's mobility. You

1277
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: have to have great anticipatory skills. Yes, look at Joe Montana.

1278
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: Joe was not overwhelming, didn't have the big time arm,

1279
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: he wasn't the greatest athlete, but his anticipation skills were tremendous.

1280
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: Rock Purty great anticipatory skills. Matt Jones great anticipatory skills

1281
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: because you got to be because you don't have the

1282
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: ball to wait, You've got to get the ball out.

1283
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: You have to anticipate where the guy's going to be,

1284
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: and like you know what, have the trust. I trust

1285
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: the system. I trust the guy that I'm throwing to

1286
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be where he's supposed to be. I

1287
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: understand the defense. I know where I'm vulnerable. I know

1288
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: where guys are going to disperse to. I can let

1289
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: this ball go. J justus to me. You can't convince

1290
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: me that brock Party is substantially better than Mac Jones.

1291
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: I refuse to believe that. And I believe, in the

1292
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: same circumstances, if I had Matt Jones with Kyle Shanahan,

1293
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 1: I believe whatever fate the forty nine ers had gone

1294
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: through over the last four years, that same fate would

1295
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: have happened to them with Matt Jones, don't.

1296
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: Joe, Yeah, absolutely absolutely, because what we saw the small

1297
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 2: sample of Mac Jones right now, the since sinus Perty's

1298
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 2: been out, it's been exact same. The offense has been efficient,

1299
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: the offense up and down the field. They put up points,

1300
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: and it showed the night to where next man up.

1301
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 2: That's why I said to start the show off is

1302
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: this was the definition of next man up and not

1303
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: missing the beat. Now, which other teams were able to

1304
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: do what we're seeing tonight from the forty nine ers

1305
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: hell like here we got the goddamn Detroit Lions here

1306
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati at PAK Coorse Stadium when Joe Burrow goes down.

1307
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: I wish we still had the same type of success

1308
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: they had tonight, where you don't miss a beat just

1309
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: because your quarterback goes down. But unfortunately it's a little different.

1310
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: It's a little different.

1311
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you guys ain't that good. And I tried

1312
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: to tell you that, and you got the you got

1313
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: the Bengals fan, your Bengals, you got them all hype Jake.

1314
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, slow down, let's let's let's

1315
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: let's there there there are other there are other elements.

1316
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't want you to talk about no other team.

1317
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, why are you talking. I

1318
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: don't want you to say foot football? You got another week?

1319
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: You can still got less see Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Oh

1320
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: and if you don't win on Sunday, it's another week.

1321
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: I gotta you know what, I got a question for you.

1322
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: What you understand how the football guards work. You're know

1323
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: when it comes to the game of football in the NFL,

1324
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: it's week to week.

1325
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: Well, this ain't gonna be all week. This ain't gonna

1326
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: be y'all week.

1327
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 2: What happens if just I'm just hypothetic speaking chat Those

1328
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: in the chat hypothetic speaking. What happened if the Bengals

1329
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: shocked the world and beat the Lions?

1330
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: If a dog had a square butt, he pooped blocks,

1331
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: but it's round, so we know how it would come buy,

1332
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: don't we don't.

1333
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: We don't come out of with y'all. I'm just saying

1334
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: I could be optimistic. I could be optimistic. Now, I'm

1335
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: not saying we're gonna win. I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking,

1336
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: is the football of the football God's decide to shock

1337
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 2: the world.

1338
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Nah, he busied that day. He ain't

1339
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: gonna be watching I promise you God ain't no Bengo fan.

1340
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: He ain't watching that game. He ain't watching that mask

1341
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: at paid Court Stadium. Now, hey, listen, I don't know

1342
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: about master. We're gonna put up a fight? What what?

1343
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: Whoa?

1344
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: Whoa?

1345
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: Whoa?

1346
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa? If the fate is the same, what what

1347
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: doesn't matter?

1348
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I got to have some type of

1349
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be all right. I believe in us.

1350
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 2: That's all that matters. There's a reason I'm in town.

1351
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 2: I done had that pep talk with them boys. I

1352
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: think we're gonna be alright. Uh.

1353
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: Matt Joe after the game was asked after the game

1354
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: by playing Hobbley reply, I'm good. I just can't show it.

1355
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: That's on me. I'll be fine. That's what happens when

1356
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: you don't practice for a couple of weeks. So that's

1357
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: my fault. Uh. You know, look, quarter it's hard for quarterbacks.

1358
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: There are other positions on shoe. Yeah, that can misspractice

1359
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: and you can't tell when they get into a game. Right,

1360
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: It's hard for a quarterback. That's why a lot of

1361
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like to wear their pads on shoe. Hey, they

1362
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: tell us to take our pans off. We can't wait.

1363
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: We can't leads in the locker room. Quarterbacks like to

1364
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: throw with their plans because guess what they're gonna throw

1365
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: with their pads they're gonna have. So they want the

1366
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: same field, they want the same rhythm as if they're

1367
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: throwing with pads, because that's how they're gonna throw in

1368
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: the game. And so Max is like, you know what,

1369
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: his fighting senses probably wasn't England. Look at the next

1370
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: board games, Oh Joe. Week six at Bucks, then Week

1371
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: seven at home home to the Falcons, week eight at Texans,

1372
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: week nine at the Giants, So it's not like they

1373
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: got to eat. The schedule coming up now, I don't

1374
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: know how long brought Purdy is going to be out,

1375
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 1: but they look they got ten days, so that's a

1376
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: long time for party. He was out this week. Ohoe,

1377
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: So he gets he got an extra you know, he

1378
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: basically got two weeks because he hadn't you know, probably

1379
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: done anything since Sunday's game. Mac Jones he gets ten

1380
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: days because they're off until you know, they don't play

1381
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: Sunday obviously, they play a week from Sunday, so they

1382
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: get ample time to get some of the guys, some

1383
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: of these guys that's banged up, ojo, they get an

1384
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to get them back healthy. Uh you see Mac

1385
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 1: Jones fit, We got that, uh we got that uh

1386
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah yeah.

1387
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that red that red with the little burgerdy

1388
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: in there.

1389
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see what let's see his fit. Can we

1390
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: pull that video?

1391
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 2: You were clean? Then? Hey, listen, that's a man that

1392
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 2: came for business. Now yeah yeah, yeah, Hey that's a man. Ay,

1393
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: that's that's two face.

1394
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 1: That's who man been hanging around brothers.

1395
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: Hey, he clean. That's the man that came from like that.

1396
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: I like that.

1397
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: I like that Matt as clean as he looked. That's

1398
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: exactly how he played. He played his ass off the

1399
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: night they played exactly like that. He scared me a

1400
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: little bit when he went down.

1401
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: And I saw ye.

1402
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: Look he grabbed his knee breaks ojo. Yeah, I thought

1403
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: it was pinching him a little bit. Yes, yes, that's

1404
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: when you get tackled. They got damn knee breaks start

1405
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: pinching you. So when they're pulling this calf, I'm like,

1406
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: what it must be pinching either the knee braks is

1407
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: pinching him, cramping one of the other.

1408
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, the little calves he got it. Dang

1409
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: that won't he hurt nothing because he got First of all,

1410
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: he got a knee breaks on. So that calf is

1411
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: not as strong as what it needs to be because

1412
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: he wears that knee breaks. Ojo. You know what I'm saying.

1413
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: You got to build strength back up in that calf

1414
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: in order for it to uh. But he played, He

1415
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: played his tail off. I mean both quarterbacks played well.

1416
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, both quarterbacks played well. My concerned

1417
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. Oh joke. Without bolts in

1418
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: the game, they really couldn't generate no pressure.

1419
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 2: Pressure.

1420
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really couldn't generate any pressure. And the last

1421
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: thing you want a guy like Matthew Stafford to have

1422
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 1: is time. Yeah, because he was dealing, man, he was

1423
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: that the one. I'm take that back. I'm want to

1424
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: play with Matthew Stafford. We keep talking about Shell if

1425
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: you could come back and play, and we keep talking

1426
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: about Mahomes and Borrow and Herbert and Allen and this one. Man,

1427
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: give me more faux Matt Stafford while a y'all out

1428
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: there bumping.

1429
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: Them you're talking about You gotta think now, Matthew Stafford

1430
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: is a legitimate gun slinger. It's only about four folk,

1431
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: maybe four quarterbacks in the league right now that had

1432
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 2: the kind of ball Matt Stanford throws with that kind

1433
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: of velocity and can take any throw in the field

1434
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 2: an throw. Even even though Aaron Rodgers is old he's

1435
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 2: one of them, Matt Stafford is another. I'm trying to

1436
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 2: think gunslinger gunsling.

1437
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: You see the difference when you When I think of

1438
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: gun slinger, I think guys that will take unnecessary risk.

1439
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: That's really not what Aaron Rodgers is now Aaron Rodgers

1440
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: can make every throw. Matthew Stafford can make every throw.

1441
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: Change arm angles. Both guys can change arm angles. But

1442
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 1: sometimes if you look at the interception for Matthew Stafford,

1443
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,719
Speaker 1: you look at the interception for Aaron Rodgers, and you'll

1444
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: see a vast different because Rogers was really never willing

1445
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: to take unnecessary risk. Matthew Stafford he believed he could

1446
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: throw a football through a keyhole. He damn show I

1447
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: just gonna get a football through a key hole. Let

1448
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: me show you, and he would try it. Now he's

1449
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 1: gotten better. Now can you imagine how what he would

1450
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: have been had he had Sean McVay his whole career.

1451
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: But he could throw it o Joe. I mean, he

1452
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: can fast spend the ball, and now I expect him

1453
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: when I watch a game, I want to see one

1454
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: time where he look over here and throw the ball

1455
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: over there. He did that. He didn't do it tonight.

1456
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,799
Speaker 2: He didn't do tonight. I remember he did it against

1457
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals in the Super Bowl.

1458
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh he did it. He did it. He did

1459
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: it too in the row and he's running down the

1460
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 1: fields because he's biped up. Don't look in my eyes.

1461
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: Don't look in my eyes if I look at my eyes.

1462
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: But hey, but this was this. I think when the

1463
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: NFL envision look, they tried to they try to make

1464
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: these game division divisional matchup. Oho, so they're really close,

1465
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: nobody having to go a great distance. You don't want

1466
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: somebody on the West coast having to go east, right, right,

1467
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: East coast having to go west or let it be

1468
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: close proximity. It's already tough enough playing I can just

1469
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,839
Speaker 1: imagine because I didn't really start to feel good till Friday,

1470
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: so I can imagine playing a game on Sunday then't

1471
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: turn around playing them another game on Thursday. And especially

1472
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: as you got older, o Jo, it took long and.

1473
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: Longer to get that old man up at you to recover.

1474
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this was This was an unbelievable, unbelievable ball game.

1475
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: Thank you NFL, Thank you Rams, Thank you forty nine ers,

1476
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: because you guys played your ass off on a very

1477
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: very short week. This is type of game that we

1478
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: want to see on on a Thursday. Got some bull

1479
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: dybe you know, Hey, this is what we're this is

1480
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: what we're looking about with yo