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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club blowing out of the backfields,

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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon gross

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Speaker 1: Frye at the Star in Frisco. Practice just ended. Locker

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Speaker 1: Two We're we're kurtless today. Kurt's field under the weather,

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Speaker 1: lot of Douglas. But he's here too, Jumbo Joel. He

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Speaker 1: front to Joe and that's that's that's Doug, is I Joe? Jumbo? Doug? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jobbo Doug baby. Oh, well man, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: something kind of before we went on the air. We

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Speaker 1: were watching some of these preseason highlights on the NFL

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Speaker 1: Network and I wanted to get your thoughts. Do you

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Speaker 1: but to the fans, because I believe you need time

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Speaker 1: So you can get the proper work in, probably get

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Speaker 1: because guys are gonna have opportunity to get rest because

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Speaker 1: you know the last time we did Rams, it was fight,

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Speaker 1: So uh, because I look at some of these preseason

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Speaker 1: that game. Did you hate preseason when you played? No,

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Speaker 1: mentally tough. It's probably because momentum. If the momentum has

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Speaker 1: been with the offense, you win, and you've been wearing

427
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: Now you've been gradually gaining on that defense and you're

428
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: starting to win. We we just knew if we could

429
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: get you. And I'm talking when I played, we got

430
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: you to the middle of the third and you ain't

431
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: had no big plays and things ain't went your way.

432
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: You weren't getting one you wasn't getting one. You know,

433
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: we were wearing on you. Was all big guys, We

434
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: was all leaning on you. Was all we were kind

435
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: of we always looking for the extra hit, you know,

436
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: we we were. They don't do that as much now

437
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL. We were always looking for a rib shot.

438
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: We was always looking to put that elbow up under

439
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: your throat. But now you do that, you get penalties.

440
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: You know, So getting up off the pile, maybe somebody.

441
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: I never fell on the ground. It was too hard

442
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: for me to get off. So if I fell on

443
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: the ground, I had to make sure somebody was underneath me,

444
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, but it was always

445
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: looking for the extra shot. I mean, if you wanted

446
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: to make it, if you wanted to get that game ball,

447
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: you had to do something extra. Because we all were

448
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: great blockers. So if you you know, you had to

449
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: get out and field, make some things, have them take

450
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: that good rib shot. So the coach, you know, because

451
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: each coach was fighting for their guys to get their

452
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: game balls. But uh, it's just about momentum. And if

453
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: the game was tight, oh my god, if the game

454
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: was if you was leading us by seven, three or

455
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: seven in the fourth quarter with five minutes left. That

456
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: means that we were winning. That means that our in

457
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: our mind and our mind offensively, you had to be

458
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: up fourteen points because three or seven we were winning

459
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: because we was gonna take Emmett Smith and we was

460
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: gonna line up the hogs, and we was from the

461
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: road grade and that was in the story. That's how

462
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: it was gonna be. Whether we needed three or whether

463
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: we needed seven. It didn't make that and back then

464
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: everybody knew that that's what you were gonna do, and

465
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: they still couldn't stop you, right, And that's why I

466
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: tell people this offensive line is we ain't gonna argue

467
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: about athletic. We ain't gonna We're about who can pull all.

468
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: That's why I tell people we were a different offensive line.

469
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: For what we did. We were the best at it,

470
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: and that was we were gonna line up across the board.

471
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Speaker 1: It just it's just like you obviously the things that

472
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: hang up under a big tractor where they have them

473
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: and just take the dirt the road greater. Yeah, and

474
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: you can see where the dirt just moving out the side.

475
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: Have you ever lived on the country country dirt roads? Yeah?

476
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: I used to when I grow it up, and they would.

477
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: They would come through about once a month and just

478
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: great the road, great road, come back to the smooth out.

479
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: That that was us. That was us. And that's why

480
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: I tell people I would give this office line all

481
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: the credit in the world, Hall of Fame, this into this.

482
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: But playing with us, we just nah, bro, we're gonna,

483
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna figure out

484
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: a way to cripple you. And see it was all

485
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: right the cripple back then. Yeah, ain't already cripple man.

486
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: You see. I mean, think about how brutal the game

487
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: of football was in the beginning. You could closeline, you

488
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: can take grab dudes, face, masks, everything, and then it

489
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: kind of progressed and then it was still kind of

490
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: rough when you guys played. Now it's just like Eric

491
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: we that was that. They they basically we could hit

492
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 1: guys as long as we didn't grab. We could hit

493
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: guys in the face. Man, could you really? Yeah? And

494
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Eric Williams Eric wim almost took a couple of guys

495
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: head off and there and then, and the coaches of

496
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: other teams say this should not be permitted, and they

497
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: would show where you just wow, yeah, face magic straight down,

498
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: Oh man, straight dude, be like, oh you hear dudes

499
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: over there. I remember William Phillip blessed it is hard

500
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: great man played for the for the Eagles, and he

501
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: played for the Houston artis great guy. Hell of a

502
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: guy to he played. Eric. You can hit him over.

503
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: That's not right, biggie, that's not right that though. You

504
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: don't want me put my hands in your facing the

505
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: next time you hit him cracking bout head by buddy

506
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 1: right in the face. You don't want me touching you hands.

507
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: You want me to lay hands on your baptize ahead,

508
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: go ahead. Yeah. Back then the forty nine ers were

509
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: known for leg whipping. Yeah, you guys didn't do that

510
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: as much if we did not. If he hated you,

511
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: he would. If you're about to get past me, he

512
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: would get you. Eric would get you. But uh, man,

513
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm in One time they did at the Howard Loan

514
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: during the playoff game and they had to literally bring

515
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: four or five raiders in there to get Howard Long

516
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: out of uh out of out of the forty niners

517
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: locker room. Oh yeah, man, they they could leg whip

518
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: your brother and uh to the point where you see

519
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: it and you'll you'll your y'all, your defensive line to

520
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: be literally everybody's hands and just go straight to the ground,

521
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, if they got past the guy. But they

522
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: just because they knew that leg what was coming. Really,

523
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: Oh it was great. They was the masters at the

524
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: brother was it was it legal or it was legal

525
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: back then? Then all of a sudden that that that

526
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: got out loud real quick. Yeah yeah, because you could

527
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: break a guy shin, you can blow a gout knee

528
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: out in your career quick. Yeah. But they were good.

529
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: And see they were not very big guys, athletic guys,

530
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: you know, like this this offensive line here. As good

531
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: as they are, you know, they could be specialists at it.

532
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if it was still legal, this offensive line here,

533
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: they could be. But me, if I fall on the ground,

534
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: me trying to whip a leg round, I fall on

535
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: the ground. I had to keep rolling, tack and roll

536
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: in the position to get up, back up, I try

537
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: to get off the ground. Yeah yeah, well man, yeah,

538
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: so wow. But anyway, man, we supposed to talking about

539
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: the cowboys we are, but I got a question for it.

540
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: Was that? So my mom watched the game. I guess

541
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: she watched the broadcast the other night. You were on

542
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: the sideline, right, and she listened to the show most

543
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: of the time, and she was like, Nate's looking good.

544
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: She was like, this, Nate lost some weight. And I said, well,

545
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I ask him on the show. I

546
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: know he dressed in all navy. He had like his

547
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: his navy shoes, his navy pants. I was like, maybe

548
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: that's slimming. Have you lost anyway or I don't know, man,

549
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: But you know a lot of you know, I just

550
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: try to work out every day and uh ding that

551
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: in that black you know that blood negacy, the navy blue.

552
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: My wife thought was all black, Like, man, that looks

553
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: black on TV. It's blue though, but hey, so black

554
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: on black on black baby makes me look slim him

555
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: if he brought sexy back? Who that mean? Nah? I

556
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: didn't brain. I wish I could. Yeah, well, whatever you're doing,

557
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: like you look good because my mom noticed. Yeah, man, yeah,

558
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: But anyway, manna, I just how are you? How are

559
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: you riding your bike now? No, I haven't rolled my

560
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: bike since I left camp, but I do a little

561
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: treadmill and still not treadman. But elliptical and and combent

562
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: bike stuff like that. Man, and try to watch what

563
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: they eat. Man, you know, even though I get to

564
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: watch himself a lot. So as you know, Yeah, you

565
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: tried to get me to get into cookies for you

566
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: before the show. Yeah, man, but you didn't go get

567
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: my cookies. But you notice I didn't moaned and grown

568
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: about it. We're gonna get something after the show. Don't

569
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: worry about I'll be gone. What what's your favorite cookie? Uh?

570
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: It used to be the raisin? Man. I didn't camp,

571
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: but they had some oatmeal of that. Who yeah, I mean,

572
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: not the raise, but they had some chocolate chip. Man.

573
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, to see I got into the

574
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm usually chocolate chip guy, But at camp I liked

575
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: the oatmeal raisin ones back. Yeah, man, I mean those

576
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: were good. One thing about at camp they may and

577
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: they didn't do it a lot this year. They may

578
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: give you a lot of rice, but they desserts to

579
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: be outstanding. Yeah, in camp they deserts. I mean, and

580
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: then how do you expect them them football players to

581
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: lose weight to stay discipline and the desserts that they

582
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: spread out there? Man? Is they had one day and

583
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was Dak's birthday and I don't

584
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: know if they did it for him or what, but

585
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: they had and we it was a day when players

586
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: had off, so we got to eat on the player's

587
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: side and they had this trace let Jay's cake. Yeah,

588
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: that's one of the best things I ever put in

589
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: my mouth. I was like, thank god they don't have

590
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: this every day, because I gained twelve pounds at camp.

591
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: I would have gained twenty two pounds if they'd had

592
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: that cake. Oh man. And then they had red velvet.

593
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: They had that one day, and then they had some

594
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: type of cheese. I'm like, wow, man, you better be

595
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: glad you didn't go. Doug Yeah, you better be glad

596
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: you didn't go. No, no, Dougs, ain't quit. Man. Do

597
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: we have any calls? Well, that's what I had. We

598
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: have our guy in Philly, Philly us up? Then Philly

599
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: cheese steak? What's going on? Who's this? Who is this? Albert? Albert?

600
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: What's up? Man? And hey? This one? Um, I know,

601
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I want to say a couple of days ago. So

602
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: it just hit me, Um two things real quick. Um.

603
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: I think that with the tutelage of Shan Lee I

604
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: think Layton vander esh has every possibility to become one

605
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: of the best linebackers in Cowboys history. I'm talking about

606
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: Chuck Hawley, Leroy, Jordan, Eugene Lockhart level. That's one now

607
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: thinking about that as I say that, because he's learning

608
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: under Shaun lay One thing that I cannot stand about Rico,

609
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sick and tired of hearing about him, is

610
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: if you're on this team for three years now, you're

611
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: out last year because you were injured? Was he in

612
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: the classroom learning? Was he trying to do anything beyond

613
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: the scope of nine to five trying to pick up

614
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: this offense? Was he trying to Was he doing anything

615
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: over and beyond the call to learn this offense? Because

616
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: I know that Jesse Holley has stated that he had

617
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: he was having a tough time learning the offense or whatever,

618
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: what have you. But if he's this far behind the game,

619
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: I know he's maybe starting to show a couple of

620
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: little things here and now, But isn't it too late

621
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: in the game even some point? You know, brother, you

622
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: said that, is it? What are you doing when you

623
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: are injured, when you are not traveling with the team,

624
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: what are you doing and see that. That kind of

625
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: makes a coach look at you too, because like, do

626
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: you love the game? Do you want to be a

627
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: part of it enough to you know? We don't want

628
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: to question you know, you know your love for the game.

629
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's and I tell you know, you got

630
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: game day guys that don't look good in practice and

631
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: it seemed like they ain't studying, but when games come up,

632
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: you'd be like, whoa, wow, this dude, he's just a gamer.

633
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: And some guys are like that. When you look at

634
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: some guys who flash and all of a sudden you say, okay,

635
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: we expect more, but that one flash. You want to

636
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: put ten plays behind that one flash, and then and

637
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Speaker 1: they're all bad. You'd be like, wow, man, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing time? At the time I hear about Rico.

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Speaker 1: When I hear people talk about Rico, I think that

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Speaker 1: team for their fantasy league football team because he's the

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Speaker 1: good in the red zone and I can't stay fantasy

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Speaker 1: league football. I hate it. But it's that kind of mentality,

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Speaker 1: that kind of fan mentality you're getting on my boy.

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Speaker 1: Cheff Heath, who is doing nothing but get better. Every year.

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Speaker 1: He gets better and better and better. But people still

648
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Speaker 1: want to hang on because he had a bad game

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Speaker 1: against Calvin get in Detroit a few years ago, his

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Speaker 1: first rookie game. You you you you know, sir, you

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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't let that that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's why we have coaches. Yeah, I know, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I was telling Doug, certain teams can

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Speaker 1: and you know, but we're not that good. We're not

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Speaker 1: that good. If we were ten to eleven win team,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's get him, do weavers. That's that's you know,

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Speaker 1: give him a few games, you know, let him get

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Speaker 1: let them tasted, you know, but we're not that good.

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Speaker 1: We were really searching for some tight ends. Yeah that

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Speaker 1: now you have a young team that okay, well you

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665
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Speaker 1: gotta give you opportunity because the team is just that young,

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Speaker 1: you know. But I like, I really like the tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Um if people people don't realize that you know, in

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Speaker 1: he's a damn good blocker, don't and and I don't

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Speaker 1: coming by man. We were, like Nate said, we have

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Speaker 1: talked about pretty much everything we could accept football, football

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Speaker 1: to Dallas Cowboys, and so we got a couple of

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Speaker 1: questions for you. Do you want to go first? You

746
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Speaker 1: want me to go, name the starting lineup for the

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Speaker 1: dress rehearsal at off offensive line ud Cameron Fleming left tackle,

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams left guard, Joe Looney center, could Deem Edwards

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Speaker 1: right guard, and Chaz Greenwright. Please tell me Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: will not see it. And I don't think you're gonna

751
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Speaker 1: see Dak Prescott. But now you know, and you you

752
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Speaker 1: you know this that they can design like fifteen plays

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Speaker 1: where they can if they wanted to to put Dak

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Speaker 1: out there, he wouldn't being no danger. They could and

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Speaker 1: that's but it's I guess over the history of time

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Speaker 1: they don't want to do this hand off, left hand off,

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Speaker 1: right handoff up the middle, then step drop, throw it

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Speaker 1: to the tight end, waggle out and throw it out,

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Speaker 1: throw it to the running back on a swing pass,

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Speaker 1: and then maybe a three step drop slant and a

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Speaker 1: couple of you know couple. But if that's all you're doing,

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Speaker 1: why even risk And that's probably what they're thinking, Why

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Speaker 1: risk of jail breaking? Another romance is backup quarterback not

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Speaker 1: as not as valuable. Yes he is, Yes he is.

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Speaker 1: He's the backup quarterback back. Miss Stephen Jones said so

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Speaker 1: now the third team quarterback ship start the game play

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Speaker 1: at all? Yeah, right, Mike White White he hadn't been

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Speaker 1: looking great has he making it? But he will look great.

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Speaker 1: He had moments in that second preseason game. I thought that,

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Speaker 1: and I've seen him throw the ball a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's been he looks like a rookie. Let's

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Speaker 1: put through my mind, man, what because uh, sometimes ladies

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Speaker 1: may I'm having a moment. I'm having a moment. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he had his moments, moments, wow, but his moments are

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Speaker 1: good moments. Yeah, moments. Yeah, can't keep the show. And

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Speaker 1: then I think they'll use the wide receivers. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you know all the guys that available the tight ends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: ask make you question? Now, next question name I started

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Speaker 1: defensive line for this. That's not the question you've been asking.

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Speaker 1: You know what. I think those guys are gonna play,

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Speaker 1: judging from what I saw in practice, because they need

782
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Speaker 1: to play, because they got to decide who's gonna be

783
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Speaker 1: inside and who's gonna be outside. Lawrence Woods, Crawford, Gregory,

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Speaker 1: and it might be Tacco to start at right defensive end,

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Speaker 1: and then Gregory's gonna come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you won't see Sean Lee. I think Jaylen will play

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Speaker 1: some snaps, Joe Thomas. I don't know that Jeff Heath

788
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Speaker 1: will play, but I think the corners will be out

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Speaker 1: there for a few plays before they get them all

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Speaker 1: out of there, because when they were doing cards today

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Speaker 1: in practice, it was the majority was the second team. Guys.

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Speaker 1: You know what's amazing is we went from we're just

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Speaker 1: gonna bring Gregory along so slow to throw them in there. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, well, Nate, you know what I thought. I

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Speaker 1: they were in shells and so they were gonna let

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Speaker 1: him get out there because it's not taxing. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday they were in pads and he was

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Speaker 1: out there with the first team. Yeah, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna take a look at it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're they want him to play in this game and

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Speaker 1: then kind of see exactly when they got where snap count,

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Speaker 1: then say let's see, let's see him actually get winded, right,

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Speaker 1: because he got past the anxiety attacks that you can

805
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Speaker 1: just tell he was just hyped his last game. Yeah,

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00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: so now they're gonna put him in saying he'll be

807
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: a little more under control, you know, yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: you didn't see it? What is endurances? Yeah, because I'm

809
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Speaker 1: either you are an insider, brother, You're an insider. I

810
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Speaker 1: need to know what they're gonna do with uh Durrance

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Speaker 1: m Strong is that his name. I think he'll he'll

812
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Speaker 1: make the team, and I think that he'll he'll get

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Speaker 1: some snaps. You know him? Well, I mean, you got

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Speaker 1: probably five defensive ends you're gonna keep right Well, who's

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Speaker 1: come onment talk to him? Lawrence Gregory. Okay, I'm with

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Speaker 1: that arm Strong, Uh, Taco and then either Tapper or

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Speaker 1: Elie because I'm gonna count Crawford as a defensive tackle. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Now he would he he would get twenty five snaps

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Speaker 1: a game. You think I'm strong, Yeah, I'm I'm over,

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Speaker 1: don't I don't know? Okay, he didn't. He didn't show

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Speaker 1: up as well the second preseason game as he did

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Speaker 1: the first preseason game. I didn't think and I would

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Speaker 1: push him. I don't know if he's hit on the

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Speaker 1: ball right or what. But I've noticed Taco playing more

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Speaker 1: on the week side, okay, okay, and playing on the

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Speaker 1: strong side we'll see. What I'm thinking, is you even

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Speaker 1: though he's a young guy, you know, and that's what's

828
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Speaker 1: kind of probably hindering him. Get that he is a

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Speaker 1: young guy, and they probably feel, Okay, Tacos picked this

830
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Speaker 1: game up. So you know, you you you want to

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Speaker 1: be you want to protect yourself because we don't know

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Speaker 1: what Gregory is. Yeah, and coney eally didn't blow nobody

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Speaker 1: away like I thought he would, and so we still

834
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Speaker 1: got that one, that one big dog and that's Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: So I'm figuring, Okay, they're gonna they're gonna give the

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Speaker 1: veteran guys the first shot at that week side defensive

837
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Speaker 1: in but I just I want him to get twenty

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Speaker 1: five snap. Well, I don't think they want to burden

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Speaker 1: him with having to play the run. It's like, let's

840
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Speaker 1: let's get him in some pass rush situations and I

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Speaker 1: think that's where they'll kind of ease him in a

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Speaker 1: long way. That's one name. You haven't heard hardly anything

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Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah you've done anything. Well, you know,

844
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Speaker 1: they've had him in two different roles. Now. They kicked

845
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Speaker 1: him inside on the nickel as a pass rusher at

846
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and then lately he's been playing behind Uh

847
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Lawrence on the on the strong side, left defensive end spot.

848
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: So I'm giving they're giving him every chance in the

849
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: world to prove himself. So we'll see what happens. Uh Woods,

850
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods. He's good, He's good, you know what side.

851
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: So we had a caller earlier, Michael in Iowa, and

852
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: he just kind of wanted to know a little bit

853
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: of his backstory and do you have any Southern cow

854
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: College was a rookie free agent in Tennessee, played a

855
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: little bit, and then last year I think he ended

856
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: up on their practice squad for the majority of the year.

857
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: But he looked so good in the camp and they

858
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: and they didn't they released him like in May, and

859
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: the Cowboys I think a week or so later signed him,

860
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: and it was just like, well, he's just a guy, right,

861
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: they needed a body. And then he gets into training

862
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: camp and kind of showed up a little and then

863
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: kind of showed up a little more, and then next

864
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: thing you know, he was working with the first team

865
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: when they had the blue white practice and no one's

866
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: been able to get him out of there. And I

867
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: compared I compared it to like a piece of gum

868
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: on the bottom of your shoe. You know, you just

869
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: keep sticking get it off of there, and they got

870
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: and he won't move. So right now he's the starting

871
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: one technique and Malik Collins was working his way back in,

872
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,479
Speaker 1: so you might have a rotation there once he gets going,

873
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: because when they put him in he was working at

874
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: the three technique. Also, how does that happen? How could

875
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: you get cut from a practice squad and then wind up?

876
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: Does it? Does? Sometimes things just click asinate, Yeah, things

877
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: click and you mature. You know when you the greatest

878
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: thing in the world when you realize you can play

879
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: with some guys. You when you said, man, I can

880
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: play with you guys. Now, what is your conditioning like?

881
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: Because you ain't mental starter. You've been a guy that's

882
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: just be getting a little bit here, a little bit there. Now,

883
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: what is your conditioning like? So when you started flashing,

884
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: now I started taking consistency to stay on the field.

885
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: And you know the other thing is sometimes you get

886
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: in the right system like maybe Tennessee wanted their their

887
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: nose tackle to just kind of hold hold ground, where

888
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: Marinelli wants his one technique to penetrate. Also not just

889
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: be a speed bump, and that's what this kid can do.

890
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: He's quick. That first step is quick, and he can penetrate.

891
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: And you know, it's amazing. And me and Mick when

892
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: we do shows together, and it ain't to me, it

893
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: just ain't no such thing as a bad quarterback. But

894
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: I can show you some bad offensive coordinators, and I

895
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: can show you some bad quarterback coaches. I just don't

896
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: believe that it's bad quarterbacks. Like you gotta get with

897
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: the right guy, right, I gotta get with the right guy.

898
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: As extras kidded with the Rams, EXE kid with the

899
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: Rams this past year. I mean, if you get with

900
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: the right guy acting Nick Foles going into the Super Bowl,

901
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: how they adjusted the game for him, somebody that plays

902
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: into your stras. I mean, just think about what. You know,

903
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: somebody was talking about Nick Foles last night and I said, well,

904
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: just remember how he played in that last game against

905
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys when they didn't have anything to lose and

906
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: we well, we walked out of their goal. Oh, such

907
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: felt is going to be the he might be the guy, right,

908
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: you know, and then all of a sudden, five weeks later,

909
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: gets through that first playoff game when what did they

910
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: score fifteen points. Yeah, and we're able to win. And

911
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: then he has the big confidence exampionship game and yeah,

912
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: a book and a ring. Yeah, and then he looks

913
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: like he did last night. Nate ask Mickey you question

914
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: by Michael Gallup. Yeah, to me, asked every single caller

915
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: and anybody come on this show this question. I believe

916
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: that Michael Gallus should started day one. Oh. I absolutely

917
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: agree with you. Oh. I was saying by game five,

918
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be quicker than that. He made another

919
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: nice catch in practice today. They sent him on a

920
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: nine route and he and a Woozier were step for

921
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: step and somehow, some way he came down with the ball,

922
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: which was even not as good as what he did

923
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: the day before when he was covered on the other

924
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: side and he went up in the air over the

925
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: dB and caught the ball on top of the guy's head.

926
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: And I'm assuming Beasley is another starter for you, Well,

927
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: depends on on how they're playing it. If it if

928
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: it's top three, yeah, right now, your top three. I

929
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: think it should be Gallup, hearns Beasley and or Terrence

930
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: Williams and so those four for sure. Yeah, and then

931
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: we'll see because they worked in Deonte Thompson in the practice.

932
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: So hen, well, I don't know because Lenora's kind of

933
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: holding his own He's hanging in there. Um what about

934
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Noah Brown? Is he I just don't see how he's

935
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna crack that top seven even though he's a special

936
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: teams player. He's just been injured. I think, yeah, he

937
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: hasn't been out there. They've got more linebackers this year

938
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: to play special teams, right, and you see that's what

939
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: hell Moon was writing. And you know last year they

940
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,760
Speaker 1: kept all they kept them linebackers, but they wasn't. Linebackers

941
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: went good, but they didn't have hardly any playing special

942
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's not playing special teams. Jalen Smith wasn't playing

943
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: special teams. Justin Rant wasn't playing special teams. Yeah, so

944
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: they really didn't. And then you didn't want to put

945
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: Hitchens out there because he was playing almost every snap

946
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: as a linebacker. That's why they had a lot of

947
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: dvs and why I receivers you don't need that. This

948
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: year you got a linebacker. I mean nothing against Noah Brown,

949
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: but when I hear a wide receiver and the best

950
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: thing anybody says about him is he blocks well, it's like, oh, okay,

951
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: how about running a route and catching the ball. Because

952
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: the great receivers they lined up every time they was

953
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna take off running and that was they man went

954
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: with him. That was the block. Just take him out

955
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: of the play. That was the block, because you're gonna

956
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: roll with him five or six yards, you know what

957
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Remember remember Alexander Wright, right, yeah, I mean

958
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: four h nine forty He just never knew he was

959
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: gonna catch the ball, but he was so fast you

960
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: had to cover him in case he did. Right, That

961
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: was Jimmy's thought. Yeah, you never know when he's gonna catch. Way,

962
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: asked nath this earlier, who's the one guy from last

963
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: year's squad that'll be on this team that either had

964
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: an off year or had a bad year that you

965
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: think is going to make that next step and be

966
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: a really solid guy this year. Take that, and but

967
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: two guys? You gonna say, but two and but two

968
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: and you said one of them problem in my eyesight,

969
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: that can make a big jump. Well, Beasley, for sure,

970
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: Beasley I think is already there. I think, oh, you

971
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: mean somebody that just last year? Okay, because his numbers

972
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: were down last year, but I think there was a reason. Yeah,

973
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: me too. Um boy, that's a tough one. Who'd you

974
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: come up with? I came up with Taco was one

975
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: of them, Taca. I think I'm good with that. Yeah.

976
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: And then my other one is Jayla because I did

977
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: not judge Jayleen at all last year. Yeah, and I

978
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: didn't know how the title kind of look at his

979
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: year because anything he did last year, it was great

980
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: because you didn't expect anything. This was the year I

981
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: think everybody looked at and said, judge him on how

982
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: he plays in twenty eighteen. Yeah, and yeah, and that's

983
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 1: the only two guys, because I haven't seen I haven't

984
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: seen enough. He's gonna be good. And the problem with

985
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: last year was he was hurt. Yeah. If he didn't

986
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: get hurt last year, he would have been the starter.

987
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: He would have been the starting left corner. Yeah. I

988
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: didn't see enough for him. I hadn't see enough of

989
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. You know, Anthony Brown kind of was a

990
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: little bit disappointed last year. He's come and and and

991
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: he was at the beginning he struggled, and then towards

992
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, I thought he picked

993
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: it back up and played more like his rookie year. Um,

994
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: he's just got to quit with the with the penalties.

995
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's like he panics and he starts grabbing

996
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: when and he's in position. Just play your technique, you

997
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: know you know who. But he's a twenty five snap game. Guy,

998
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: I gotta go. You guys are over time. What's the

999
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: deal here? We got l cavon phraser if he he's

1000
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: twenty five snaps of fury, anything out of that kind

1001
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: of scared, right, he had an interception together. Yeah, you

1002
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: don't have to quit, but I've got to go do

1003
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: it out. No, I want Brad Sham to be mad

1004
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: at me. Yeah, when Nicky leaves, you know the bar

1005
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: better clothes. Yeah, they're out of wine and pizza. This

1006
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: the only guy I know you can you can go

1007
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: outside doing training camp at the end of the day. Hey, Nicky,

1008
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: don't say it. How you doing my cup of coffee? Well,

1009
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: thank you, Mickey, we'll have you on often during the season.

1010
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,479
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Well, Nate, you ready to go? I'm ready.

1011
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: He's already gone. He's already got the headset. He's going

1012
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: with Mickey. Well, I'm going with him. So Micky, thank

1013
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: you all right, Douglas, thanks for pushing all the button

1014
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: back there. Kent, thanks for doing what you do. We

1015
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: will be back Monday after another preseason football game on

1016
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production of

1017
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,680
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