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Speaker 1: I'm for I've heard so many players say, well, I

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Speaker 1: a day? Edith Steak is that woo woom and them

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Speaker 1: and Tie Danner seen happy April Fool's Day. We're not

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Speaker 1: doing a theme episode, or maybe that's the April Fools

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Speaker 1: social media that are like, hahu, we're we're going to the.

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Speaker 2: Mill told me I didn't know you had that heart

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Speaker 2: of a line on April Fool's Day? Are you do

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Speaker 2: have an April Fools Day? Just in general or just

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Speaker 1: I am anti in general. I'm not a prank skuy.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big old crotchety boomer, a pranks guy. You

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Speaker 1: tell a lot of funnies on this show, but not

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Speaker 1: a pranks guy. Interesting. I don't like the idea where

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Speaker 1: like people have like escalating prank I am just a

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Speaker 1: And hopefully my self awareness is endearing because I don't

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Speaker 1: like it. I'm not a fan of like the April

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Speaker 1: Fools that, like April Fools were dying our field tie

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I fell and I sent to you. Yeah, I fell

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Speaker 2: for the Arizona State tweet that, oh.

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Speaker 1: You are one of a few people to me that

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Speaker 1: have texted it to me that were like this is

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Speaker 2: See like that one was believable to me, that they're

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Speaker 1: I did not, but the maroon field got me. Here's

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Speaker 1: the question, though, what constitutes in April Fool's Day, like

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Speaker 2: To call myself a prankster is probably a bridge too far.

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Speaker 2: Solid Verbal at gmail dot com is where you can

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Speaker 2: email us your favorite April Fool's Day pranks, either ones

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Speaker 1: welcome back in This is a college football show.

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Speaker 2: I am ty he is Dan, Dan. You are back

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Speaker 2: from California. Welcome back in this episode. Our first episode

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Speaker 2: We thought we would circle the wagons on this episode

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Speaker 1: That is when interest is highest. No, no, no, no, this is

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Speaker 2: Of course, reballers doc is where you can go to

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Speaker 2: bonus content, scored access, so on and so forth. Dan,

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Speaker 1: Around the idea, which I think is a cool idea.

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Speaker 2: Of it is insurmountable, right, Like, if they really want

436
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 2: to do this, they're going to be able to pull

437
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Speaker 2: this off, probably as soon as next year.

438
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: So more to come on this front.

439
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: If you like the idea the way I think Dan

440
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: and I both do, you, I think this would be

441
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: really cool. I think this would breathe some life into it.

442
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't know logistically how you would make this work, because,

443
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: as I think it was, James Franklin said, spring games

444
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: on some campuses are pretty big deal. Like the whole

445
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: community waits for that event. It's something that at least

446
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: at the state college. And I'm probably batching who even

447
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: gave this quote, but let's.

448
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: Assume it's Franklin.

449
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: For our progresses here, that date third week or fourth

450
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: week in April is something that the entire community circles

451
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: and plans around and gets excited for. And so if

452
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: you start having these types of scrimmages, are you doing

453
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: a split squad thing like they would do in spring

454
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: training baseball where half the squad goes to one place,

455
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: half the squad goes to another.

456
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Speaker 1: Is it a two week thing?

457
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Speaker 2: Are you literally going to have years where you just

458
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: don't do the spring game on your own campus because

459
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: of a traveling setup there Again, I have questions about

460
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 2: this logistically how they would make it work, but I

461
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: don't think in theory it's a bad idea to do all.

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, the spirit of a spring game is to

463
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: give your diehard fans an opportunity to come out and

464
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: see the team, to see the guys on this year's team.

465
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: And you take the spirit of that away, they're like, oh, nope,

466
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: Syracuse fans can no longer come out to JMA Wireless

467
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: or whatever and watch this team. So we're taking that

468
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: privilege away from them because Deon Sanders wants to have

469
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: a team take on Colorado. So are players in game

470
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: shape in the spring? I know they're in winter conditioning,

471
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: but are you cool with sending players out to a

472
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: scrimmage that's going to be on TV that's going to

473
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Speaker 1: have like meaningful effects about you know, with regard to

474
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: the conversation around your team and your season based on

475
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: what's happening in April when players aren't in full game shape.

476
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems like a cool thing for sure,

477
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: But then when you like, are people gonna wager on

478
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: a Colorado Syracuse spring game? You sort of get into

479
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of questions. Should it be pay

480
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: per view? Raise a bunch of money for charity? Okay,

481
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm listening.

482
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: I think it was Gundhy who suggested that they could

483
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: charge something like twenty five dollars ahead to get in. Yeah,

484
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: and the money could go towards nil. Again, both of

485
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: their nils the home teams, And I don't know that.

486
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but at least I think it's pretty

487
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: novel that they're thinking along these lines. It's something we

488
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 2: might see happen, you know, the way it is as

489
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 2: we get into April. There is certainly interest in spring games.

490
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: But you do something like this, I think it would

491
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: it would brethe some new life into it, which I'm

492
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: all for.

493
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Speaker 1: I would be okay with Colorado, Colorado state where the

494
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: travel is a bus, right that, you know. I'd be

495
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: okay with Syracuse playing somebody close. I'd be okay, you know,

496
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: But you start flying across the country to do this

497
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: glorified fans service thing. Anybody who's been to a spring

498
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: game knows it's not a game, no that it's a

499
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: scrimmage of some kind. You're mixing and matching. You're seeing

500
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: what walk on offensive linemen look like with the threes,

501
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: You're seeing what the backup quarterback do with the ones.

502
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: Like you're mixing and matching to see what you have

503
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: at the culmination of large a teaching period For a

504
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: lot of these players at Penn State. And this is

505
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: me speaking as a former student.

506
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: It was a a reason to go out and enjoy

507
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: the sun, which is dormance.

508
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: It's the best is dormant for about four or five months. Yeah,

509
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: I love spring games.

510
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: It's a reason to go out there and tailgate and

511
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: drink with your buddies and maybe tangentially to talk some

512
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: football or go into the stadium for free and watch it. Yes,

513
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: it's I think, much more at least for fans circumstances

514
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: around the game than the actual game.

515
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it goes for me. Going to spring

516
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: training is great because there aren't steaks. You get to

517
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: sit in the sun, drink whatever you're gonna drink, eat

518
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: whatever you're gonna eat, hang out and not freak out

519
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: about your team giving up three runs in the fifth

520
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: inning or something, or torpedo bats. Don't forget torpedo bats. Yay.

521
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: Oh I first of all, I would love to do

522
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: a torpedo bats show. Okay, that could be the bonus show.

523
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, somebody coming up with a new equipment

524
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 1: quirk for a long standing piece of equipment that is

525
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: one hundred percent our jam. I love it so much.

526
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: That would be great. That would be great. But yeah,

527
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: that's why I like spring training, because not everything needs

528
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: to be so important and serious. It's okay that you

529
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: trot out, you know, a bunch of second string defensive

530
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: lineman to see who is who's got a great get

531
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: off coming off of the edge. It's kind of fun

532
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: to see the little stuff. And I don't know, it's

533
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: a cool idea. Maybe there's some sort of middle ground

534
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: so that we can get something fun. I'd rather all

535
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: stay local, so I don't know, keep the money in state.

536
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: That's it's fun to me.

537
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: Speaking of Colorado, did you see that Dion got a

538
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: five year, fifty four million dollar extension.

539
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: Good for him?

540
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: On average, it makes him the fourth highest paid coach

541
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: in college football. Yeah, clearly getting a bit of a

542
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: payout after what transpired this past season. I saw our

543
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: friend Andy Staples from over at on three and Andy

544
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: and Aarri made the comment that even at ten million year,

545
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: he thinks it's a bargain for Dion. I tend to agree.

546
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: I tend to agree. He's definitely rejuvenated that program to

547
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: some extent.

548
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: He's cool the amount of pr that school has gotten

549
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: being on TV as much as they have, with the

550
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: number of viewers and the amount of attentions, it feels

551
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: like it's been an unlimited amount of Colorado University of Colorado,

552
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: you know, commercials for the past couple of years.

553
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: I totally get why they'd want to re sign him here.

554
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: I still have questions about the strategy for building the program.

555
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can continue having success via

556
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: the portal solely via the portal. We do know that

557
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: they've gotten some wins on the high school front, but

558
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: those are still few and far between. We'll see what

559
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: we get out of Julian Lewis this year, if he

560
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: plays it all at quarterback. I did go through and check,

561
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: by the way, the class of twenty twenty six, it's

562
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: very early on, so it's.

563
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Not I mean it's early signing day is early December.

564
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: It's not that early. Take this with a grain of salt.

565
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: Colorado currently zero high school commits, and not only that,

566
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: I went through the top one hundred prospects on twenty

567
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: four to seven, Colorado was listed as quote unquote warm

568
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: for just two of the top one hundred recruits in

569
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six class. Again, that means take over the

570
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: grain of salt. Doesn't mean everything, but it is I

571
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: think meaningful that if you're inking this guy to a

572
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: longer term extension, paying them all this money, if we're

573
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: still relying on the transfer portal strategy, yeah, hasn't really

574
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: been done before.

575
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: Now.

576
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: I was not spooked by that. At the start of

577
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: last season. Remember, everybody was dunking on Dion like he

578
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything in high school and it's still all

579
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: portal stuff. And I said, well, let's let's wait, let's

580
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: let's see how it goes. And it actually worked out

581
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: pretty well this past season. But twenty twenty five is

582
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: going to be without Travis Hunter, without Schador Sanders. Yeah,

583
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: I was hopeful that a little bit of success, some

584
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: wins in the portal would help jump start the high

585
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: school thing, right, I haven't seen that yet this cycle.

586
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Well that's if his intent is at all to be

587
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: high school active, which it doesn't. Everything he's said and

588
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: now it's done, you know, actions and words have pointed

589
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: to like we're going to be a portal team and

590
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: fill in some gaps the depth wise with what we

591
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: consider to be special players in high school and only

592
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: special players in high school.

593
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: Listen, you know me, I like a good zag. If

594
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: this is the zag and they're just going to completely

595
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: omit high school recruiting from their repertoire.

596
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: Then so be it. I sure, let's see how it goes.

597
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: I you know who am I experimental way Dean?

598
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: I uh, defense was a little bit ahead of the

599
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: off last year, so obviously bringing in transfer quarterback competing

600
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: with true freshman quarterback will be fascinating. They have They've

601
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: lost the most talented player in the country in Travis Hunter,

602
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: and so there are guys there on both sides of

603
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: the ball. But it's now it's officially like a new

604
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: era of the Deon Sanders, not experiment, but the Dean

605
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Sanders era. So curious to see how it works out.

606
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: The defense was a crazy impressive step forward last year.

607
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: So if they can keep finding both the players and

608
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: the money to pay the players, because if you're going

609
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: that transfer heavy, you know, it's a different kind of payment,

610
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: it's a different kind of market. So they got to

611
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: keep raising the money both to pay now Deon's new

612
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: deal and you know, the roster. So if they feel

613
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: good about the cash influx at in Boulder, you know,

614
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: I guess if it can last forever, great, But we

615
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: saw him sort of flirt with the Cowboys a little

616
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: bit this past offseason. Why wouldn't you if you're Deon Sanders.

617
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: What an opportunity like that with the history you have there.

618
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's one of those things that like if

619
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: he leaves, not unlike you know a lot of other situations,

620
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: but if he leaves, Colorado is almost in a worse

621
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: place than it was. Yeah, you're putting all your eggs

622
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 1: in THEO d On basket. You are doing here, You

623
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: are doing exactly that.

624
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him. I'm rooting for Colorado. Like I said,

625
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: I love a good zag. And if this is the strategy,

626
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: if they are going to build exclusively through the portal,

627
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: if they can make it work, more power to them.

628
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: One of the other things I discussed in the last

629
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: episode with Matt was and Matt brought it up. We

630
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: don't have great data of sustaining success when your roster

631
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: is at least thirty percent from the transfer portal year

632
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: over here, right, So there's going to be a threshold.

633
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: I think that emerges the more we do this. How

634
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: many transfers can you take and still maintain culture, still

635
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: maintain some level of trust and togetherness on your team

636
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: and actually, just to the eye, look like you're on

637
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: the same page. Now, Colorado has been an exception to

638
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: that role so far, but we'll see.

639
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: We'll see Ion gets a big new deal. Here's something

640
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: for the Dan Rubinstein fans among us. I don't know

641
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: why I phrase it that way. Well, it's okay, and

642
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: now I'm very excited.

643
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina is going to become the first FBS school

644
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: to offer free concessions this fall.

645
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Dan Sure. Here is the way this works.

646
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: If you buy a ticket to the game, you can

647
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: go up an unlimited number of time to the concession

648
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: stands and select up to four items each time you go.

649
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: Correct Those items include hot dogs, nachos, popcorn, and fountain drinks. Again,

650
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: I emphasize there is no limit on how many visits

651
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: to the concession stands you can make.

652
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: Right. All they ask is that you have to scan

653
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: an app each time, so they know I'm making at

654
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: track your data.

655
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm assuming who the professional eaters are among Chanta Clear fans.

656
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: But Dan, uh, you know we have done these episodes

657
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: time and again in the off season where oftentimes it's

658
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: our choose our own adventure games or something goofy like that,

659
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: where we address this issue of attendance. Yeah, attendance, notably

660
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: in college football, has not gone up. For some games

661
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 2: it has, but overall the trend line is pointed down

662
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: into the right right. So doing something like this, I

663
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: don't know if cheap hot dogs and nachos is going

664
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: to be enough to spike attendance at Coastal Carolina in

665
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: Myrtle Beach as a whole.

666
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: I appreciate the.

667
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 2: Swing though, Like I said, I love a good zag

668
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: right Conway to be clear, but yes, Conway, yeah fair enough.

669
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: Uh, Look, if if the money works out, if the

670
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: private data of people is worth just as much as

671
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: the average amount of hot dogs and pretzels and popcorn

672
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: or whatever you said, and fountain drinks. Sure, I think

673
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: it's a great idea. I think it's great to get

674
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: people in seats and you get a home field advantage

675
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: when your stadium is full. I think their attendance last

676
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: year I saw was about average for their conference, And Okay,

677
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: you want that energy around the program. You want, you know,

678
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: positive press in the spring. You want positive attention. And

679
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 1: if it becomes more affordable to take kids to a game,

680
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: all the better. If it becomes a more affordable experience

681
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: for new fans, for diehards who perhaps were priced out

682
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: because of both the tickets and parking and you know,

683
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: whatever other costs you're incurred, right taking the day off

684
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: from work or finding a babysitter that you know, at

685
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: least you don't have to worry about paying, you know,

686
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks that day for food. I don't know,

687
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: seems like a good thing to me, So good for them.

688
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: Those seem like low cost items, So I don't know

689
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: how much they're actually going to lose. If I saw

690
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: somewhere like concessions were like two hundred and fifty thousand

691
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: dollars or something like that is what they were making

692
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: on average, So they figure eating that but getting more

693
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: butts in seats, selling more tickets would be worth it.

694
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: So starting to substack based on personal data that they

695
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: collect via the app.

696
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Absolutely no. I you know, my my thing is parking, right,

697
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: if you really want to get people out of game,

698
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: that's free parking. Free free parking is something that I

699
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: just that's going to reach people, that's really going to

700
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: sing to people. Food like it has that value. Parking

701
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: has a value. But then you start paying eighty bucks,

702
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks, two hundred bucks whatever based on the

703
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: size of the game. I don't know people pay two

704
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. But you're just like this just feels like

705
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: such a grab and it feels gross. But I don't know.

706
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Food is that's good enough for me?

707
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: If you with it you're a family man, yeah, if

708
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: you take if you take your family of for to say,

709
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: a cubscheme mm hm. And you don't have free tickets

710
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: or you know, you're paying for the parking or transit whatever,

711
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: however you get to really.

712
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: Take the train into town. There's the train stops are

713
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: at by regularly content.

714
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: You're paying for four tickets for you and Jodie with

715
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: an Eye and the boys sessions, the whole day.

716
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: What's that cost you? Oh, hundreds of dollars. It's not cheap, right, No,

717
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: not at all.

718
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: So something like this, I, like you said, you're always

719
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: looking for good news stories in the spring, right, Something

720
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: like this at least puts you on the radar. It

721
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: has a very minor league baseball feel to it great, which.

722
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: I think is great.

723
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: People love minor league baseball. That's why there are so

724
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: many teams out there. People adore minor league baseball stadium

725
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: just as an experience. I don't hate this idea. I

726
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: hope they don't lose their shirt over it. But again,

727
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: taking a swing here, trying something a little different in

728
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: the springtime to curry favor with the locals, I think

729
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: is a pretty cool, pretty cool idea.

730
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you're cultivating future fans, future players who

731
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: are able to go to a game, and otherwise they

732
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: might not have figured that they could afford and swing tickets, parking, food, whatever,

733
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden you've got, you know, an

734
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: eight year old and a six year old growing up

735
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: as Coastal Carolina fans, and maybe one of those grows

736
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: up to be a prospect somewhere in the in the

737
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: state or nearby. I don't know. I think it could

738
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: pay dividends, you know, in the future, near future, long future, whatever,

739
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're not losing their shirt.

740
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: And as you said, goodbye them the.

741
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Only other big news bulletin I have. And then just

742
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: a few other rapid fire type things. Gary Danielson, longtime

743
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: commentator CBS. Gary Danison stepping away after the twenty twenty

744
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: five season. They announced quickly that he'll be replaced by

745
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: Charles Davis, who I like. I think Charles Davis is

746
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 2: really a commentator. He'll be with presumably brad Nessler moving

747
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: forward in twenty twenty six and beyond. But Dannison walking away.

748
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people, especially in the South, dealing with

749
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: Danielson all those years on CBS with Uncle Vern brad Nessler,

750
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: grew to hate him. I'm sure I never I never

751
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: hated Gary Danielson. I thought he was always pretty good

752
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I just you come to associate big games,

753
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: medium sized games, network TV games with certain voices, and

754
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: as that changes as you get older, it becomes a

755
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 1: little bit sad that somebody that you've grown whose voice

756
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: has been involved with so many huge games specifically around

757
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: the SEC and CBS and Vern Lunquist being the mainstay

758
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: until Brad Nesler took over. But brad Nessler was always

759
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: always a or not always, but it was a season

760
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: hand everybody. He's a big game. Brad Nesler's voice everybody,

761
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: So that wasn't a drop off. But the familiarity with

762
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: those types of games have changed when Vern left, and

763
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna change once again, and these guys have opportunities

764
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: to create their own legacy. And Charles Davis has been

765
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: on the mic A ton I think was Charles Davis

766
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 1: with Tom Brenneman for the Boise State Oklahoma again please

767
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: so that bowl game. So he's like, I'm not questioning him,

768
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: but it's always a little bit sad when you start

769
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: associating a voice with big games and they go away,

770
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: and I'm always you know, my my college football fandom

771
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: can't be separated from Keith Jackson, right, the history of

772
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: my college football fandom, especially growing up on the West Coast,

773
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: cannot be separated from Keith Jackson's voice. And so whether

774
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: or not you've hated Gary Danielson, loved Gary Danielson, been

775
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: indifferent about Gary Danielson. You know how long ago did

776
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: he start at CBS. I think he was at ESPN

777
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: before that. Your fandom is likely very closely tied to him,

778
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: even if you hate him. You can't go on and

779
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: watch t J. Yelden or Mark Ingram or Ryan Parrelu

780
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: or whoever without like, oh, yeah, that voice, And I means.

781
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: Like these these announcers are very much the soundtrack of

782
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: our fall season.

783
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah they are.

784
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: And you come to I think expect a certain caliber

785
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: of announcer for a certain caliber game. One of the

786
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: things that came to mind first when I saw this news.

787
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: I was so used to Gary Danielson.

788
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: Callings SEC games that I could not deprogram and get

789
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: it through my head that.

790
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: He was calling big ten games. It's real tough.

791
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: I just could not disassociate. I could not get used

792
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: to that. And it wasn't big big ten games either, No,

793
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't. It was always kind of like the third

794
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: biggest Big ten game. And I just I really had

795
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 2: a hard time with that. I really had a hard

796
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: time with that, just on a on a personal fan level.

797
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: You know, I'm used to the Danielson pro SEC commentary.

798
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: There was a lot of that there was a lot

799
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: of sec boot looking with Gary Danison. I didn't have

800
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: a problem with him, not at all. I thought he's

801
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 2: a good commentator, but there was a lot of that

802
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: that was going on that you just didn't have when

803
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: he was calling Big Ten games, and for me, I

804
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 2: just never got used to it. So maybe this will help.

805
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: Not that I want to see the guy walk away,

806
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: I wish it well.

807
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I like Charles Davis. I think he's a really good commentator.

808
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 2: But maybe refreshing that booth a little bit will help

809
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: me personally because this is a show about honesty. Helped

810
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: me reprogram my family a little bit.

811
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: I always liked seeing like Gary react to like the

812
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: A people and it was like, well, I'd have these

813
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: seven SEC schools in the top eight. Okay, Gary, who

814
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: is also, by the way, a son of the Midwest.

815
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: I went to Purdue. It was for Michigan, So maybe

816
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: he didn't love being the guy on the call for

817
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: the third biggest Big Ten game. And he was like,

818
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm ready to hang it up.

819
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm still not used to the new broadcasting thing, by

820
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: the way, not just the booths, but which games are

821
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 2: on which networks and the NBC Sea game on Saturday nights,

822
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: like a little peacock action going peacock thing. It's I

823
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: realized that media is very fragmented now, and it's that's

824
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: going to continue to being a trend. There was actually

825
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: a news story that just came out today about the

826
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: NFL is going to opt out of its contract in

827
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine because media is more fragmented, they want

828
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: to bid it out to a bunch of different places.

829
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: Obviously that serves the pocketbook, Well, it doesn't serve us

830
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: all that while it makes it out.

831
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: Chasing money time shocked as you could. You even imagine

832
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: if the NFL went to Saudi Arabia looking for four

833
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: more money. Oh, they already are great. Cool, Good job everybody.

834
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: I only have a few other bullet points here.

835
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned one earlier and it kind of got

836
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: me thinking along these lines.

837
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: But we're talking about spring football.

838
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: We were talking about Colorado and some of what they

839
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: attempted to do. Talked a little bit about Julian Lewis,

840
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: their four star quarterback recruit reclassified.

841
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: He's now on campus practicing.

842
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Pete Naco is a friend over at On three who

843
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: does intrepid reporting on some of these rumor meal type stories.

844
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: Had a piece a couple pieces actually recently, where he's

845
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: talking about quarterback battles and just some of the early

846
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 2: feedback that he is hearing from some of his sources

847
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 2: that I thought might be interesting to dissect a little

848
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: bit here. It's not news per se, but just something

849
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: maybe to keep your eye on again if you're tuning

850
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: out college football, or have been tuning out college football

851
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: so far this offseason. Here is where some of these

852
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: races stand. Per Pete. Okay, by the way, we need

853
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: a nickname for Pete. We're going to have them all

854
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: the way. I think we need a nickname. I said

855
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: to you, we should go by Peter. I think maybe

856
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: it gives a little bit more gravitas to that. But

857
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: we need a nickname for Pete by the time he

858
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: comes on this show, because again my understanding is that

859
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: Andy and Auri gave him one.

860
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: But we can do better. You know, we can do

861
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: better than them. All Right, what I suggested nacom and

862
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: you said that was too well, Nah, I don't want that.

863
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: I think I agree.

864
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't want that. I thought about pistol Pee, but

865
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: that's already taken. Yeah, So regardless, You and I need

866
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: to kind of take this way and do some of

867
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: our own personal study. But right now, Caden Salter seemingly

868
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: is a clubhouse leader in Colorado. But there are what

869
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: seems like varying opinions over Julian Lewis, whether we're going

870
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: to make it to mid season and he's going to

871
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: challenge for that job, whether he's going to win that

872
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: job outright in Colorado. But it seems like Cayden Saltered

873
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: the transfer from Liberty and Julian Lewis the freshman. Those

874
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: gonna be the two names to watch at Colorado. A

875
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: bunch of other quarterback races to put on your radar, right,

876
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: seems like Julian Sayan's going to be the guy at

877
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State.

878
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: Not much of a race there.

879
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: Everybody is raving about Julian Sayan, right. Carson Beck obviously

880
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: going to be the guy at Miami. Seems like his recovery,

881
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: you know, he had the elbow thing in the playoffs,

882
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 2: His recovery is on schedule.

883
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: He's doing well.

884
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: John Mattier quote everything we thought he wasn't more at Oklahoma, great,

885
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: he'd better be because they needed offense this year.

886
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: Dan Yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody doubted John

887
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: Mattier coming in after what he was able to put

888
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: on film last year for Wazoo. The question is who's

889
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: protecting him? Who's he throwing to Dion Burks I think

890
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: is back. They've recruited somewhat well at receiver, but it's

891
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: what does the offense look like obviously under John Mattier's

892
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: coordinator at Washington State, and how protected will he be?

893
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: And you know, does everything come together quick enough for

894
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: an SEC schedule. We'll see we are we are still

895
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: material girls.

896
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 2: Here in the show. Yeah, I zero doubt that he's good.

897
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: I like John Mattier. Yeah, I would like it more

898
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: for Oklahoma if he were good there as well.

899
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: But we'll so they have to have Michigan's defense in

900
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: week two, they're host they bringing in Michigan.

901
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Michigan, these are the two quarterback battles

902
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 2: that I am watching the most outside of Notre Dame,

903
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: at least for the more. Yeah, per Pete, Bryce Underwood,

904
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: the All World Everything Freshman is trending towards being the

905
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: day one starter at Michigan. So you may recall we

906
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about them bringing in Mikey Keene

907
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: the transfer Fresno State via or I guess Fresno State

908
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: before that UCF, He's.

909
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Been a couple places.

910
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: Mikey Keen is still yet to throw because I guess

911
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: he's dealing with some of his own injury stuff. Right So,

912
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: right now, Bryce Underwood turning some heads. He is trending

913
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: towards being the starter. If you've seen any of the

914
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: photos of Bryce Underwood, he is a god among men, a.

915
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: God among men, a gotami. This is a seventeen year

916
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: old careful, No, I'm just saying he's enormous as compared

917
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: to those around him. For a freshman, yes, for a

918
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: fresh he's huge.

919
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: So Bryce Underwood trending towards being that starter on day one,

920
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: which I think would be notable. And the quarterback battle

921
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: down at Alabama is any interesting? Austin Mack. Austin Mack,

922
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: I believe the transfer from Washington, Yes.

923
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, followed Kaylen de Borr and obviously Ryan Grubb overlapped

924
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: with him at Washington as well.

925
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Austin Mack is quote turning heads at Alabama. This

926
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: figures to be a three way race between mac Ty

927
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: Simpson and Keelon Russell, who is Yeah, they're big time

928
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: freshman who is also on campus as well, so that

929
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: will be an interesting situation to follow. I know you

930
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 2: and I talked a little bit about Austin Mack when

931
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: Calen de Borr took that job, and there was at

932
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: least some thought that maybe he would turn to some

933
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: guys that he knew from Washington. Obviously, Jalen Milroe was

934
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: quite good and he's going to get drafted pretty high

935
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: in this upcoming draft, so there's a reason that they

936
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: stuck with him. But now that it's a fresh slate,

937
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: we'll see which direction to Poor decides to go.

938
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: So here here's what's notable. I would, you know, if

939
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: I were running a team, I would do everything I

940
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: could to make sure a true freshman was not starting

941
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: at quarterback, especially if I were at a huge place.

942
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: So Alabama has Wisconsin, Florida State in Georgia in September. Yes, yeah,

943
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: just in terms of like the possibility of Keelon Russell

944
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: starting for Alabama. Michigan is at Oklahoma and I believe

945
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 1: at Nebraska, two teams that say what you will about

946
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: their ceilings should have good to really good defenses. Right,

947
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Nebraska and Oklahoma on the road, playing in difficult places

948
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: to play. I don't mind it if a team starts

949
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: a true freshman a little bit, if they're built to

950
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: accommodate the lines in place, the running games in place,

951
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: so that you know people are going to respect play

952
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: action and you know the play action fakes, and he

953
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: can roll out and hit easy passes to an h

954
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: back or tight end or you know, a slot receiver

955
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: sitting in the zone or something. The defense is in

956
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: place where they don't need to score thirty five points

957
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: on offense to win games. Michigan doesn't strike me as

958
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: that team right now, like that is just a quarterback

959
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: away from achieving its goals this year. Now, if Mikey

960
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: Kean's not healthy and Bryce Underwood, I think, is Davis

961
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 1: Warren still there? Davis Warren is still there, but he's

962
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: recovering from right he's hurt too. Yeah. So if Bryce

963
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: underw was literally the only option, or it's so plain

964
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: and clear that against Michigan's first team defense, he is

965
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 1: acquitting himself super well, they're like, okay, well, I guess

966
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: that's the move. I would avoid it for as long

967
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: as possible, like even Trevor Lawrence didn't start the season

968
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: as a true freshman. He was given mental reps, he

969
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: was given practice reps during the season, clean up duty like.

970
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of an adjustment period that

971
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: was allotted for Trevor Lawrence. And we saw last year

972
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: with I'm trying to think of who the big true

973
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: freshman that played at big play like Dylan Royola was

974
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: not particularly impressive. It doesn't mean he won't be moving forward,

975
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: but he was an underwhelming quarterback in year one, largely

976
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: because the offense could not accommodate his inexperience.

977
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: Now, I'll say this about Michigan, it does seem as

978
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: if there has been much more of a renewed focus

979
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: this offseason about trying to go out and get receivers,

980
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: trying to go out there and pray.

981
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: But they don't. They got what Donovan McCaulay from Indiana,

982
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: But otherwise it's kind of the same group. They have

983
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: promising guys at tight end, as we say, as a

984
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: Hogan Hansen who played well in the bowl game, but

985
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: otherwise I don't think the Lion's going to be especially good.

986
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: They went after portal guys on the line, so maybe

987
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: it'll be improved. Defense loses absolute star power, but there's

988
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: still guys there. Yeah, I just I don't want for

989
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: the sake of Michigan's long term health, I don't want

990
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood to play in games that are going to

991
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: set him back, like emotionally and mentally, because he wasn't

992
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: ready to step in as a seventeen eighteen year old

993
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: and throw into the teeth of the Oklahoma defense, throw

994
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: into the teeth of the Nebraska defense. And whoever's on

995
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: their schedule this year, they're like, he should play when

996
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: he's ready, not because he's better like on a practice field.

997
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: And it seems like he should get reps because he's

998
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: such a high profile name and we're paying them all

999
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: this money. Like, wait till he's fully baked whenever that is,

1000
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: if you really think he's fully baked on Labor Day,

1001
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: I guess roll with it. But we don't really see

1002
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: those guys all that often.

1003
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: You're starting to see a lot of comments to the

1004
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: effect of, yeah, it just it comes out of his

1005
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 2: hand different. You know, when he when he throws the ball,

1006
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: the angel gets its wings type of stuff.

1007
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I don't know much to put on

1008
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: a kid, it's so much at a place like Michigan,

1009
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: as a true freshman, it's just so much to put

1010
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: on him from day one, and you just you want

1011
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: him to be comfortable so you get the best version

1012
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: of him. And sometimes playing a guy too soon, it's

1013
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: just it can be a setback. And so I'm trying

1014
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: to well. At MVB at Mississippi State had some good moments,

1015
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: but that was not a team that was built to

1016
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: accommodate his inexperience. And so we'll see, but we'll see.

1017
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: I hope for his sake that he has extended a

1018
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: comfortable amount of time to get ready. Why don't we

1019
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: leave it there on this news show on April first,

1020
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: I can assure you all of this stuff, is who's

1021
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's quarterback going to be? CJ? Carr? Is that

1022
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: just like kind of done deal? I think it's gonna

1023
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: be CJ. Carr. Okay, I think it should be CJ. Carr.

1024
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: Are they gonna lose either of the guys behind him

1025
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: after the spring portal?

1026
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: I can't see how they wouldn't, right, I think I

1027
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: think at least somebody is going to defect. Yeah, I

1028
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: think that's that's my expectation anyway, because it it might

1029
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 2: be Angelly to start the year on the road against Miami.

1030
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: Notre Dame schedule is crazy front loaded this coming season.

1031
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: It's a tough schedule this year for Notre Dame. So

1032
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me if Angeli gets a start on

1033
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: the road against Miami. But I think there's an understanding

1034
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: within the football program that CJ. Car is the one

1035
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: with the highest ceiling.

1036
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: And by the way, if it is CJ. Carr, and

1037
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: this goes for a lot of different programs that have

1038
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: the amazing problem of having too many quality looking guys

1039
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: in the quarterback room, which is not a lot. But

1040
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: the spring game on the flip side, that if like

1041
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman in his head and from what he seens, like, oh, CJ.

1042
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Car is going to be our guy, that the spring

1043
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: game could be a really cool opportunity for Angeli and

1044
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: Kenny Minsheet to kind of like put their abilities on

1045
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: display on NBC because there are going to be programs

1046
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: across this Great Land tie that are going to go

1047
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: through spring practice, are going to play in their spring game.

1048
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: The offensive coaches room is going to come together and

1049
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: they're going to say, but I think we got a guy.

1050
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at who popped in their spring game.

1051
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at who in this spring portal

1052
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: is disappointed that they didn't win the job, perhaps closely,

1053
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: and let's get Ty Simpson here, Let's get you know,

1054
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Steve Angeli here, because it seems like at least their

1055
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: floor is fine. We can work with it. Yeah, I

1056
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: would be personally interesting the spring portal. I would be

1057
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: surprised if Minshi sticks around. Yeah.

1058
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's not that's not based on anything, but

1059
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: just it doesn't seem to me like there's a path

1060
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: to him playing. And I know he's pretty highly regarded

1061
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: m HM as a prospect, but if his path is blocked,

1062
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 2: you'd be best served to go somewhere else to get

1063
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: some time.

1064
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just what would make the most sense.

1065
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: But we'll see. I don't know. Yeah, well, I mean

1066
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: post spring portal is when you're I guess, the most desperate, right,

1067
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: it's your last chance to get a guy.

1068
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: Pretty much, yeah, pretty much? Right in solid verbal at

1069
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: gmail dot com, let us know your thoughts on these

1070
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: news stories. What we got right, what we got wrong?

1071
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: April Fool's day pranks. If that is your jam, let

1072
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: us know. I did do an extended prank and it

1073
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: wasn't in April Fool's thing, and it was for no reason.

1074
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: No reason whatsoever.

1075
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, some friends and I did this to East Coast

1076
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 2: Elliott back in the day, and that was definitely more

1077
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 2: of a team effort. I will say I did it

1078
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 2: recently to my mother in law with Kate's blessing. And

1079
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: this prank involved something that we came up with as

1080
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: a collective and then I carried through with recently called

1081
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: cat facts.

1082
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1083
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 2: And what we did is via a Google Voice is

1084
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: probably against the law. I'm probably going to be indicted

1085
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: for this. But through a Google Voice number, we would

1086
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: text random facts about cats. I believe you can actually

1087
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: sign up for the service. By the way, there as

1088
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: a service that will do this for you, wouldn't you. Yeah,

1089
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 2: we chose the manual approach. We got more satisfaction that way.

1090
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: But we would at random hours throughout the course of

1091
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: a day texts a very very goofy fact about a

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00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: cat to whoever the target was, and we would put

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00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 2: that text at the bottom like text two to unsubscribe

1094
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: or whatever. And every time somebody would text back with

1095
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: a two or stop or anything like that. We would

1096
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: accelerate how many text messages we sent. Sure, you could

1097
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: imagine back when I was working the mysterious day job,

1098
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: this was a real hoot. And this is a great

1099
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 2: distraction from work that we were going to say. We

1100
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: did not give a damn about.

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00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: Sounds like the work of people who don't have a

1102
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: ton going on. That's exactly right, That's exactly right. So

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00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: the more recent example, we didn't go full board.

1104
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: The way we did when we did it on East

1105
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: Coast Eliot years ago, but there was probably a point

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00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: in time where we were where we were texting him

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00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: or actually it was an East Coast ellied he was

1108
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: involved in the planning.

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00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: It was a different friend who was the target.

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00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: Uh we I think we're sending like eight text messages

1111
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: a day, driving my other friend crazy. This is before

1112
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: you had spam filters and things of that nature, so

1113
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: there was really no way around it. HM. Eventually we

1114
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: ended up telling him, but I think we went for

1115
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: about six weeks with that. I think we lasted a

1116
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: good long time with that stupid cat fax thing, to

1117
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: the point where we were running out of facts about cats.

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00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you've you've you've become kind of an expert on

1119
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: all things Feeline.

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00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: It will shock you to learn that I was single

1121
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: at the time that we pulled my drank.

1122
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's quite the quite the shocker. Yeah, the

1123
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: definition of a prank because basically you just talked about

1124
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: cyber stocking and cyber bullying, I mean notes of both.

1125
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: I'd say, right, yeah, I don't know, that's it was dedication,

1126
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: it was a close friend. It was a different time,

1127
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: it was it was a different time, all right.

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00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'd love to hear your pranks. Mine is far

1129
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 2: more docile than some of the other ones I've heard

1130
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: of out there. But it's all very about Jima Luck.

1131
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: I would love to hear about them me personally, as

1132
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: a resident prankster here on the show.

1133
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, good goof ty, thank you. I can tell you

1134
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: do not approve. No, I've just heard the story before.

1135
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. See, it's funny the East Coast Ali

1136
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: one isn't as funny as doing it to your mother

1137
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: in law because she is a middle aged lady who

1138
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 1: probably doesn't just know how to block contact.

1139
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: Oh no, she called apple on me. Oh she called Apple.

1140
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: She she knows what she's doing. Yeah, yeah, no, no,

1141
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: don't sell her shorts she's doing.

1142
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: Did you just create a new Google voice number when

1143
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: she blocked you? No, I didn't know she blocked me.

1144
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: Well I fixed it because we didn't hear anything about it.

1145
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: Were like, is she so getting the messages? We didn't

1146
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: know anything about spam? No, no, no, yeah, she is

1147
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: a force to be reckoned with. So it didn't work

1148
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: as well as it did years prior before we had,

1149
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: you know, some of these new fangled ways to prevent

1150
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 2: against spam.

1151
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: By the way, think about related Think about how insane

1152
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: it is. I think the Statute of Limitations is up

1153
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: on this. Like original AOL they had the different I

1154
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: don't know if there were phishing bots, you know, you

1155
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: could like you could replicate people's email addresses in people's

1156
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: screen names. Yeah, I guess it wasn't through AOL necessarily.

1157
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: You could download all of those tools. Yeah, and I

1158
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: could just email somebody from your email address and you'd

1159
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: have to like look into the sending data to discover

1160
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: that it wasn't truly. I don't know, is your email

1161
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: address out there? I don't know. Yeah, Tie Hildemran at

1162
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Like I I could just send that

1163
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: email and be like, Tie sent an email to so

1164
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: and so and that we were eleven years old with

1165
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: that ability, it's completely insane, completely insane.

1166
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, that's all.

1167
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: Well, we were young and full of life.

1168
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein.

1169
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: For my self, Tie hulder Brand, thanks for hanging with us.

1170
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully you got your hit of news here in the

1171
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: college football off season. We'll be back a little later

1172
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: this week talk more about this fine sport.

1173
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Speaker 1: Yes, in the meantime, you know the drill, stay said peace.