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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norrey with

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Speaker 2: you our special guest. Temple Hayes as a spiritual teacher,

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Speaker 2: community leader, and advocate for healing. She's the founder of

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Speaker 2: the Temple Hayes Ministries, the Institute for Lifelong Learning, and

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Speaker 2: Global Peace Workers International, where her work centers on conscious living,

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Speaker 2: restorative healing, and compassionate leadership. Our website is linked up

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Speaker 2: at Coast tocoastdam dot com and her book is called

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Speaker 2: Being a Difference Maker, which we'll talk about. Temple. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Have you been?

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Speaker 3: Oh? George, is so good to be with you again.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, it's just a great thing. I love your

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Speaker 3: show and all that you're doing. I tell you you

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Speaker 3: are a difference maker. George Snurry, you are?

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Speaker 1: You are well.

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Speaker 2: You did a great job for us six years ago.

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Speaker 1: Have you been.

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Speaker 3: I've been great. I've been on a real journey of learning.

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Speaker 3: You know, if we aren't learning, dying right. So I

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Speaker 3: lived in California for three years, and then last year

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Speaker 3: I moved to New Orleans, and so I've just been

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Speaker 3: taking somewhat of a sabbatical. You are my coming out party. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I thought, what a great way to start the year

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Speaker 3: with George Nuri. You know, even when I say you're

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Speaker 3: probably this way as well, Even when I say I

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Speaker 3: don't have a lot going on compared to most people,

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Speaker 3: I'm still doing a lot, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I won't ever retire. I don't like that word. I

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Speaker 3: want to stay active.

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Speaker 2: I made the same decision that I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: keep going until I drop temple. That's what I'm going

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Speaker 2: to do. So tell us a little bit more about

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Speaker 2: yourself beyond the bio.

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Speaker 3: Well, I am just, you know, one of those people.

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Speaker 3: I'm just really committed to learning, growing, expanding, being part.

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Speaker 3: You know, a teacher said to me when I was

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Speaker 3: in my twenties, You're not going to be able to

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Speaker 3: solve all the problems of the world, but you can

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Speaker 3: certainly be committed not to be one of them, right,

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Speaker 3: And so that's where I really work at and give

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Speaker 3: energy to being a difference maker. I just think it's

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Speaker 3: so important that we as we change, as we shift,

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Speaker 3: as we learn from you know, our tragedies and our triumphs,

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Speaker 3: that we come pass it on to others. And that is,

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Speaker 3: you know, really what this book is about. So I

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Speaker 3: do a lot of life coaching. I have the online

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Speaker 3: Institute of always bringing in different teachers and courses to

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Speaker 3: teach what it is to have the skills, you know,

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Speaker 3: to make a difference. And I just love my life. Really,

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Speaker 3: we're good for you.

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Speaker 2: Now tell us what does it mean to be a

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Speaker 2: difference maker?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, when when we think of being a

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Speaker 3: difference maker, everybody is one, you know, really, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but are they making a difference in the impact that

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Speaker 3: they would like to make?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, when a child walks in the room full

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Speaker 3: of joy and enthusiasm, what happens to everybody? They are

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Speaker 3: influenced by that. Yes, there's something that goes off in

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Speaker 3: our humanity that says I want to be more like that.

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Speaker 3: So being a difference maker is like when people, you know,

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Speaker 3: they have anger issues and then they become bullies. They're

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Speaker 3: a difference maker, But is that really the direction they

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Speaker 3: want to go? You know, people that stuff their anger,

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Speaker 3: people that believe that spirituality means or religiosity means just

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Speaker 3: I don't want to upset anybody, by you know what

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Speaker 3: I say or don't say. So in writing the book, George,

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Speaker 3: I just really wanted to look at different aspects of

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Speaker 3: who we can be and how important it is in

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Speaker 3: this journey called life that we own our emotions, you know,

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Speaker 3: and because if we don't own them, they own us, right,

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Speaker 3: And then we have health issues and all different kinds

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Speaker 3: of things, and we don't get the results that we're

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Speaker 3: seeking or that we're we're looking for. And so I thought,

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Speaker 3: if I can partmentalize various types of difference makers, perhaps

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Speaker 3: You know, I thought it was very interesting that the

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Speaker 3: first two hours of your show you had the gentleman

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Speaker 3: great match, you know. I just thought that was so

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Speaker 3: funny because, you know, I think I told you last

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Speaker 2: And to make a difference. It doesn't have to be huge.

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Speaker 2: It could be small within your community, within your family, right.

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Speaker 3: It can be That's the whole thing. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: everybody does a little, no one ever has to do

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Speaker 3: a lot. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Was there a defining moment when you realize that you

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Speaker 2: could no longer be quiet at what you do or

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Speaker 3: Yes. Absolutely. In two thousand and seven, I was invited

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Speaker 3: was called Women Peace and Power. And I really wasn't

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Speaker 3: this isn't anything that's feminism, because I love men and

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Speaker 3: the weekend. And it was six Nobel Peace Laureates. It

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Speaker 3: I listened to a woman like from Afghanistan. She must

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Speaker 3: her country. And I'm sitting there, George, thinking I'm not

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Speaker 3: But as I was leaving the conference, I had this

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Speaker 3: real epiphany that it was time for me to go

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Speaker 3: So it was a huge defining moment and it really

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Speaker 3: shapeshifted me. And I'm still growing into it, you know

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Speaker 2: What would you say, Temple, in terms of being a

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Speaker 2: either a story to you or your own self. Hmm interesting?

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, I would say to that that, you know,

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Speaker 4: often we pray or we meditate, are we you know,

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Speaker 3: these messages. George. It was amazing people at restaurants who

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Speaker 3: You know, I didn't even know them, and yet I

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Speaker 2: How didn't they know this?

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Speaker 3: It was just one of those mysical things. It was

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Speaker 3: very interesting to live your goals and your values, is

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Speaker 3: when inwardly you get nudges and you get messages and

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been what your personality would have chosen,

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Speaker 3: It's been fascinating.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the word forgiveness.

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Speaker 3: That's a huge one. There was some kind of wisdom

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Speaker 3: So to me, forgive is the opportunity for giving, for

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Speaker 3: So when I know that I've really forgiven someone, I

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Speaker 4: It does?

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Speaker 2: And in the book Difference Maker being a difference maker?

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Speaker 3: What is your face saying? Are you happy to be alive?

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Speaker 3: But that was the journey on my path. But it's

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Speaker 3: about realizing the impact that you're making in public settings

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Speaker 3: wherever you are. You're making an impact, an immense impact

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Speaker 3: in ways that you never know because other people are

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Speaker 3: has the capacity to be congruent with their fullyef system TEPA.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think courage is important in the equation?

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Speaker 3: I think it takes immense courage, and I find the

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Speaker 3: longer we live, you know, we I mean, I'm aging myself.

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Speaker 3: But you know, when I was growing up, we had

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Speaker 3: you think I do?

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Speaker 2: Even though I think the old times are great and

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating, is it? It really is. I wouldn't trade

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Speaker 3: it is absolutely amazing. But for someone to use their

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Speaker 2: What would you say is one of the most remarkable

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Speaker 2: whether it's been part of your training or something on

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, well, I think of I think of Gandhi, I

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Speaker 3: Martin Luther King. Definitely, I think of Buddha, absolutely, the

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Speaker 3: Dalai Lama Ybaba. I mean, we've had many, many greats

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Speaker 3: by their values in our lifetime. Definitely difference makers. They're

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Speaker 3: sacred warriors. Really, they really have an energy that is

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Speaker 3: about living out. Loud is their voice, but yet they

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Speaker 3: It's incredible. So many people are making this world a

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