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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Pacificofice dot com. Problem solved Garrison ties for the en zone,

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Speaker 1: he said, touchdown. The latest news and notes from the

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: All that was nasty right there.

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Speaker 3: Rights slam on the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: You know, the great thing about this edition of Cardinals

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Speaker 2: Underground is the way I figure it. We're not talking

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Speaker 2: about Micah Parsons. We're not talking about Shador Sanders. We're

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Speaker 2: not talking Darren about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 4: You don't know that.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about the Patriots keeping eight count of

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Speaker 2: eight wide receivers or even National Dog Day. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is all ball addition of Cardinals Underground, just moments removed

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Speaker 2: from the final cuts being made. I still wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk about the poly PIXI and Breakout Player at Camp Kneeling,

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Speaker 2: both picks for the second straight year. I was this close.

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Speaker 2: So we're not talking about that either. Well, we went,

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Speaker 2: where'd we go? We went?

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Speaker 4: You didn't go Bam Night.

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Speaker 2: I know that we went Keaton Crawford and in a

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Speaker 2: close one, it was either Josh Fire or Elijah Simmons.

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Speaker 2: We opted for Elijah Simmons and put Josh Fryer on

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Speaker 2: the watch list and we should have reversed it. Story

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Speaker 2: of my life. So there we go, all right? Top Takeaways,

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Speaker 2: The final fifty three is out. There's really nothing final

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Speaker 4: It will continue to churn by the time people are

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Speaker 4: listening to this.

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Speaker 5: Actually really okay, Yeah, Because at the moment the Cardinals

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Speaker 5: don't have a long snapper. That's tough to play with.

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Speaker 5: God one.

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Speaker 2: They also have six cornerbacks, which I'm guessing isn't real

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Speaker 2: feasible for very long. But other Top takeaways, what are

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Speaker 2: we happy?

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Bam Knight thing is obviously the first

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Speaker 4: thing that draws your attention. He Bam Knight becomes the

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Speaker 4: fourth running back and they cut both Michael Carter and

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Speaker 4: DJ Dallas that. I'll be honest, I did not see

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Speaker 2: Nope, I didn't. Dj Dallas. We sort of speculated early

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Speaker 2: in camp whether he might be in the crosshairs because

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Speaker 2: he had a bigger contract and could a young guy

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Speaker 2: supplant him, But you just figured he was. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was acquired by design by Jeff Rogers for special

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Speaker 4: So the first thing I think of is like, wow,

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Speaker 4: have they turned over their special teams? They had already

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Speaker 4: lost a bunch of special teamers and now you just

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Speaker 2: And you have to wonder if that Kansas City performance

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Speaker 2: he put it on the ground, DJ Dallas, and you

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Speaker 2: secret probation? And then all of a sudden, when Bam

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Speaker 2: You know when we heard that, a lot of the

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Speaker 2: was followed with the words, man, we like this guy,

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Speaker 2: We really like this guy. And then when he ripped

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Speaker 5: Now you have the opportunity in the locker room, Paul,

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Speaker 5: to tell him that you're going by Zonovan. Let him

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Speaker 5: know you guys share a first name.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it's the least he could do.

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Speaker 5: At the very thing, I like that, all right, one

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Speaker 5: of the only nice things said to me or about

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Speaker 5: me on that Cardos Underground. He just he pound his chest.

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Speaker 2: I was, you know, we were on the O Samacho

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Speaker 2: I was naming a few names, and then Sam Rittmany said, no,

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Speaker 2: kids don't even use that anymore. Paul So. I mean,

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Speaker 2: here a quick glance at what we have. Zay Weaver

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Speaker 5: That was going to be my response to something that's

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Speaker 5: surprised now, not not surprised in the sense where, oh

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Speaker 5: it would have been keeping running back Bam night. It

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Speaker 5: was a tough competition that final wide receiver spot. I'm

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Speaker 5: not surprised Cardinals kept five rather than six, given the

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Speaker 5: skill set of those top players. This is a run

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Speaker 5: heavy offense, and with the new additions on defense, if

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Speaker 5: Cardinals did, went from six to seven, you got to

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Speaker 5: Xavier Weaver over seeming Fajoko is interesting because Fajoko is

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Speaker 5: a special teams play. He's very good on special teams.

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Speaker 5: to me, I was thinking special teams. That's that's what

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Speaker 5: we're going to see a lot of in this from

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Speaker 2: Kind of speculate on this earlier because the Feyjoko news

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Speaker 4: What he was wrong about. By the way, ohso Semi

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Speaker 4: is an unrestricted free agent. He said he had to

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Speaker 4: that he does have full control over wherever he goes.

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Speaker 2: Well. Either way, my initial reaction was maybe the front

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Speaker 2: office thought they had a better chance of reacquiring Fey

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Speaker 4: More importantly, Simmy has total control over what he does.

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Speaker 4: If Xavier Weaver is cut, he is on waivers and

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Speaker 4: anybody could grab him. So that's very possible now that

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Speaker 4: you mention it that way. Although watching that video of Feyjoko,

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Speaker 5: That is something to keep in mind is this is

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Speaker 5: truly an initial fifty three. Again, you don't currently have

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Speaker 5: a long snapper on your roster. That's obviously going to change.

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Speaker 5: You could only start by having two players on IR,

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Speaker 5: so that list includes really just linebacker JJ Russell because

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Speaker 5: offensive lineman Hayden Connor and offensive lineman Christian Jones are

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Speaker 5: on IR but have been designated to return. But from

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Speaker 5: a number standpoint, it's possible that somebody who's banged up

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals didn't have room to start them on IR,

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Speaker 5: long snapper back. I really feel like that's going to

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Speaker 5: be Aaron Bruers. Now, this is just transactional.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I agree with that. They did it with Aaron

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Speaker 4: Brewer a couple of years ago, actually the same thing

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Speaker 4: what you're doing it for? Again? Teams can have up

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Speaker 4: So they if you have three guys want to put

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Speaker 4: I can't tell anybody else unless I'm missing somebody. Justin

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Speaker 5: One of the first things I did look at when

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is talking really far in advance now,

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Speaker 2: It's a great point because think about it, it's an

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Speaker 2: even steeper challenge than Darius Robinson faced last year. At

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Speaker 2: He had quality reps. He had the entire month August.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't until the first week of September when d

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Speaker 2: at Buffalo. So, yeah, Walter Nolan's hill is that much

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Speaker 2: steeper to climb to come back in this one? You know, well,

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Speaker 2: once again it's who you can get to the practice

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Speaker 2: For example, Travis Vocalek over Michael Carter. Well, a year ago,

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Speaker 2: guessing it's the same thinking this time around. You have

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Speaker 2: what you consider the deepest tight end room in the league.

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Speaker 2: Just ask America's tight end coach, by the way, Ben Steele.

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Speaker 2: He will agree with you on that. He voted yes

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Speaker 4: Well there, let's not get sideways either. Like the fact

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Speaker 5: They thought that Leonard Fournette was going to Bishop Sycamore.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, he was fifteen after his freshman year,

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Speaker 2: He had over twenty six hundred yards rushing, second only

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Byers. Xavier Thomas played over fifty snaps speaking of

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Speaker 5: Thomas made some preseason plays, and I would think that

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Speaker 5: you had such tight competition, not only in that outside

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Speaker 5: That's the same thought with safety Keaton Crawford, a young

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Speaker 4: Well again, and if they keep, if they let guys

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Speaker 2: Is the revisionist history if I hit the rewind button

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Speaker 5: I don't recall that happening.

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Speaker 5: There's so many different things that can happen with this roster.

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Speaker 4: Or it's just a question right now, you're keeping guys

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Speaker 4: Until you start having injuries. If you look at this roster.

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Speaker 2: And that's it, right J. J. Russell is done.

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Speaker 4: JJ Russell's done because you could only do two IR

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Speaker 2: You know what's remarkable, Craig Grilo, who put this out

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Speaker 2: How many times did the head coach have to say,

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Speaker 5: There's no need to have three quarterbacks on your active roster.

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Speaker 4: And make no mistake, there will be a quarterback on

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Speaker 5: You need someone at practice.

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Speaker 2: Yes, make no mistake. I will not make the same

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Speaker 5: Uh, Danny will segue to you getting cultured with Danny.

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Speaker 5: It is not just directed at Paul.

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Speaker 2: Am I the default uncultured philistine around here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you got me very excited. Now.

439
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Speaker 5: I am on social media and consume more at pop

440
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Speaker 5: culture than both of you combined.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, let's go.

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Speaker 5: I've got some beef with Paul because he started the

443
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Speaker 5: podcast saying we weren't going to talk about certain things,

444
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Speaker 5: and we absolutely are going to talk about the biggest

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Speaker 5: news in the world. I also have beef with Paul

446
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Speaker 5: because he told me I'd be fine to drive, and

447
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Speaker 5: then I got caught in a dust storm, so maybe

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Speaker 5: that'll come up a little later.

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Speaker 2: Danny, you got caught in a dust What do you mean?

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Speaker 5: What do I mean?

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Speaker 2: You mean your car got a dirty I mean, you

452
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Speaker 2: know what? Just just I mean.

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Speaker 5: I was stuck at a grocery store for almost thirty minutes, Paul,

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Speaker 5: and then when I was driving, it was monsooning and

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Speaker 5: I was having to drive around trees in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the road.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a tornado, it's not a cyclone, it's not

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Speaker 2: a hurricane. It's a little dust blowing around and maybe

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Speaker 2: a dust up.

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Speaker 5: I ever heard of valley fever ball. Okay, I'm just

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Speaker 5: gonna say this, don't consider any career changes to meteorology.

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Speaker 2: Darren gif you told.

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Speaker 5: Me I'd be fine. I wouldn't get hit. Maricopa is

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Speaker 5: a big county.

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Speaker 2: Darren still has some of the N ninety five COVID

466
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Speaker 2: masks in his desk and may want to grab one

467
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Speaker 2: of those next dust storm that comes around. Here we go.

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Speaker 5: Here's what else. I was disappointed in the Love Island reunion.

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Speaker 5: It was Monday night. I thought it was going to

470
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Speaker 5: set me up for success with getting cultured, and it

471
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Speaker 5: didn't give me anything. So don't worry. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: What has a shorter off season the NBA or Love Island?

473
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Speaker 2: What's going on now?

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Speaker 5: It's officially done, think gonn As. I'm over this cast.

475
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Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of anyone at this point. So

476
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Speaker 5: I had high hopes that it would essentially do my

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Speaker 5: job for me with getting cultured. It didn't, so the

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Speaker 5: first thing, I am a little a little delayed in this. However,

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Speaker 5: there's a search for a new Airbud dog. There is

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Speaker 5: a nationwide search for Airbud Return, which is coming out

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Speaker 5: summer of twenty twenty six. The original came out in

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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety seven. It'll be the fifteenth film in the series,

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Speaker 5: so you can take that large movies and it is

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Speaker 5: National Dog Day on this Tuesday.

485
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Speaker 2: That felt yes, additions, Yeah, please take a Cheatah, you

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Speaker 2: know that's that would be good. By the way, where

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Speaker 2: is it here?

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Speaker 4: There's been fifteen air Bud.

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Speaker 5: They're all kind of different, but yes, so the purge

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Speaker 5: is the same.

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Speaker 4: Whatever.

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Speaker 5: Don't be a hater, Darren. Airbud is a great movie.

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Speaker 2: Don't be a hater.

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Speaker 5: And then you can't make a comment.

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Speaker 4: I comment all I want.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was sent this story dog story travel.

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Speaker 5: Taking over my getting cultured Right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little a dune travel and leisure magazine headline

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Speaker 2: this luxury airline for dogs.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I thought that was your idea.

501
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Speaker 5: That's in one of his Poul Champagne farm.

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Speaker 2: It has in flight fir massages and bottomless treats. It's

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Speaker 2: luxury air, semi private, chartered four pets.

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Speaker 4: This is this is why too few people have too

505
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Speaker 4: much of the money in this world.

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Speaker 2: People. They're not people.

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Speaker 5: Wait, Paul, they deserve that. Okay. So I actually had

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Speaker 5: this next bulletpoint on getting culture printed before the news

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Speaker 5: of Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift becoming engaged came out.

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Speaker 5: So I gotta get well before I get to that.

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Speaker 5: Taylor Swift broke more records when she appeared on the

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Speaker 5: New Heights podcast, the podcast with Travis Kelsey and Jason

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Speaker 5: Kelcey on August thirteenth, One point three million people simultaneously

514
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Speaker 5: tuned in on YouTube, which set a Guinness World Record

515
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Speaker 5: for most concurrent views for podcast on YouTube. As of

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Speaker 5: Tuesday morning, this was before the engagement announcement, it had

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Speaker 5: twenty million views on YouTube. They have now announced that

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Speaker 5: they are engaged to be married, So congratulations to the

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Speaker 5: two of them. Hurrying supposedly costs half a million dollars.

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Speaker 5: It's an eight carrot rock. And that leads me to

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Speaker 5: this question. Travis Kelcey is in the final year of

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Speaker 5: his deal and this smells like retirement. Yes, but congratulations

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Speaker 5: to the happy couple. You've now been cultured. You're welcome.

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Speaker 4: My favorite, my favorite tweet or headline for today was

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Speaker 4: podcaster and now engaged to recent guests.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Darren, here's here. This is This is no trivia

527
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Speaker 2: this week, but I'm going to test your bestketball knowledge

528
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Speaker 2: Sun's knowledge seven seconds. The last team, the outside shooter,

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Speaker 2: the marksman who was engaged and or married to the

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Speaker 2: pop star can't remember Queen Richardson, Yes, and the pop

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Speaker 2: star engage.

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Speaker 4: I remember, I vaguely remember that she's a pop star,

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter where at hiscuse I'd never heard of her before.

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Speaker 2: At his press conference and I'm way in the back

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Speaker 2: and he announces that they were engaged, and she happened

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Speaker 2: to be in the front row, and she puts her

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Speaker 2: hand up and it was an eleven Brandy. Brandy, it

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Speaker 2: was an eleven character rock that you could see from

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Speaker 2: the moon. It was ginormous.

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Speaker 5: They were engaged for fourteen months.

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Speaker 4: There you go, Okay, that's a longing it. Did they

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Speaker 4: get married?

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Speaker 5: I don't believe so. Oh no, that just ruined your

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Speaker 5: day back in two thousand and five. Where have you been?

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Speaker 4: No, that's that is not what ruined my day in

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Speaker 4: two thousand and five. But it was sons related at

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 2: That oh No, had the same cadence as Ron Burgundy.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you go back and you match

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Speaker 2: that up, that sounded a lot like old Ferrell right there.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of what else do we have? Wait, waited, speaking

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Speaker 2: of what go ahead?

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Speaker 4: What's that segue? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: I was gonna go with the Bam goes the dynamite segue.

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Speaker 2: Uh for a BAM night. I was gonna go this

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Speaker 2: sixty seven yarder and uh, you know, do all and

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Speaker 2: bam goes.

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Speaker 5: Great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm looking at some of these, uh, different

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Speaker 2: position groups in the room.

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Speaker 4: I will I will say this. We we were talking about, uh,

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Speaker 4: we were talking about the cornerbacks, and I'm curious. I'm

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Speaker 4: curious to know where Denzel Burke fits into this. He

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Speaker 4: got a lot of playing time. He's obviously a draft pick,

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Speaker 4: he's rookie. They want to develop him. He did struggle

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Speaker 4: quite a bit in his playing time season.

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Speaker 2: It seemed like Elijah Jones was ascending and Denzel Burke

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Speaker 2: was struggling in the last two preseason games over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. Now, Jonathan Gannon did say that

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Speaker 2: Elijah Jones had some really good practice days leading up

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Speaker 2: to the Raiders game, which I'm guessing figured in and

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Speaker 2: they had two back to back pass deflections and he

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Speaker 2: made a couple of plays some us and that factored

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Speaker 2: in to him. But I never expected a scenario to

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Speaker 2: see all three of them, Denzil Burke, Lajah Jones, and

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Speaker 2: Key Troll.

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Speaker 5: Here's my follow up question to that, do you need

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Speaker 5: Burke to be able to be ready week one back up?

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Speaker 5: Because you have five safeties. So if for some reason

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Speaker 5: you need to make any sort of adjustment to your

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Speaker 5: top three cornerbacks of Garrett Williams, Max Melon, or Will Johnson,

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Speaker 5: you can move Williams outside. We have already talked about

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Speaker 5: he's gonna be playing outside more this year. Not having

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Speaker 5: Sean Murphy, Bunting or Starling Thomas this year, who both

585
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Speaker 5: have season ending injuries. You can then move rabbit Taylor

586
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Speaker 5: Demerson and have him play Nickel, so you're not necessarily

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Speaker 5: handcuffed to needing someone like Burke to be ready to

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Speaker 5: go day one as a backup.

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Speaker 4: I guess a couple things here. Number One, we can

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Speaker 4: check with the great Kyle D'ARRONI, but he has an

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Speaker 4: email in his box from Sunday night that says for

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Speaker 4: posterity sake, and it's my fifty three man roster. And

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Speaker 4: I did not obviously nail it because Bam night. But

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Speaker 4: I nailed the cornerbacks in the safeties, really had it,

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Speaker 4: and I had those eleven Wow. So anyways, but.

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Speaker 2: The Burke thing, what the light goes on for Darren

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Speaker 2: and that one? There we go?

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Speaker 4: I do. I guess I'm more like you must really

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Speaker 4: feel like he's got a lot of runway to get better. Burke.

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Speaker 5: Well, that that's kind of the whole point. No is,

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Speaker 5: if you draft a player and you like the potential

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Speaker 5: and you like the ceiling, and he's showing you enough

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Speaker 5: good things, you keep certain players understanding we probably won't

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Speaker 5: be ready to rely on you day one as a backup,

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Speaker 5: but we like what you can develop.

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Speaker 4: I guess the question is did he show him enough

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Speaker 4: good things? Yeah, and obviously he did.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I'd add to that is, Okay, you

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Speaker 2: know what were his mistakes? Are they correctable? Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: if it's a matter of him, you know, some poor

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Speaker 2: technique here or there, but you see the raw talent. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you definitely see the work ethic. He supposedly was the

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Speaker 2: first dude in the building and be a lot of

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Speaker 2: the coaches.

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Speaker 5: That's what cornerbacks coach Ryan Smith told me was that

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Speaker 5: both Burke and will Johnson don't play like rookies in

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Speaker 5: the sense that they don't prepare like rookies. They are

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Speaker 5: putting in the work like veterans. And Smith mentioned Burke

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Speaker 5: by name, saying there are times he is the first

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Speaker 5: one in the building and then he leaves after me.

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Speaker 5: He is one of the last ones in the building.

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Speaker 5: And Smith added that those two remind him a lot

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Speaker 5: of Garrett Williams in that sense.

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Speaker 4: And I will say, like Burke, the touchdown Burke gave

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Speaker 4: up against the Raiders, that was a hell of a

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Speaker 4: throw by Gino Smith. Burke was in a great place.

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Speaker 4: That was just a better throw and catch, no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt you know a lot of these a lot of

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Speaker 2: these guys who are on the roster, you're thinking two,

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Speaker 2: three years down the road, maybe even next year. Like

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Speaker 2: for example, Josh, what's Jonah Williams situation. He's in a

632
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Speaker 2: contract year. Calvin Beacham easily could retire. Here's your swing tackles.

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Speaker 2: So a guy like Josh Fryer, you're thinking twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: where are we going to be Who is going to

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Speaker 2: be available at that position at that time? Speaking of

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman, there's my segue. Let's stir it up a

637
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Speaker 2: little bit. Okay, Will Hernandez, what are we thinking here?

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Speaker 2: Dude is eligible to practice asap media.

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Speaker 4: Comes, he comes off the pup list, so he's on

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Speaker 4: the roster, so he could start practicing tomorrow. Wow, okay,

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Speaker 4: so the probably he probably was out there today.

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Speaker 2: Actually the plot thickens around around the horn we go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when do you think you'll see Will

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Speaker 2: Hernandez in uniform active on game day? Give me a prediction. Active?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a start or active?

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Speaker 2: No active has a jersey active on game day?

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Speaker 4: I think it'll be week one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah really yeah, Well you're gonna you're gonna need offensive Lineman.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't mean he's gonna play.

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Speaker 4: You think he's not ready to play by week one.

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Speaker 2: I don't think physically he's ready to go week one.

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Speaker 2: I'd say I up for week three or four, best

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Speaker 2: case scenario.

654
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 4: Okay, if that's best case scenario, then why were you taking?

655
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 5: Not to be a Debbie downer? But just because he's

656
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 5: ready to play doesn't mean we'll see him on the field.

657
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 5: I mean, Gannon was very upfront that when he told

658
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 5: the media that he already told his players, Evan Brown

659
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 5: is your starting left guard, Isaiah Adams is your starting

660
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 5: right guard. How many times has the head coach ever

661
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 5: gone to that podium and been that forthcoming about players

662
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: and having the positional roles right, That's pretty telling to

663
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 5: me that when he says will Hernandez is.

664
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: Death, I don't know when he said it. Will Hernandez

665
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: wasn't not on pop. Okay, does he still say the

666
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 4: same thing now? Probably does he still say the same

667
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: thing in two weeks.

668
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 5: Look, competition is great. We have talked about Isaiah Adams

669
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 5: having a very good camp. Evan Brown has looked good

670
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: in his one on ones. I I think, yes, there's competition.

671
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: I'm not I don't believe that the moment Will Hernandez

672
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: is game ready, that he's automatically a.

673
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 4: Starting Okay, so let's let's take this further. Then, what

674
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: are the chances that we think Will Hernandez is starting

675
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: by week seven?

676
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 5: That is higher?

677
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: To me?

678
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 4: Higher, Like, let's let's make it a yes or no.

679
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: Well, no, because it's it's very nuanced. Is it the

680
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 5: moment he is ready to go and play, he's automatically

681
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 5: a starter?

682
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: No?

683
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 5: I think I think they want it. But that's the difference.

684
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, if you here's.

685
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 5: Because now you're saying by week seven there's a chance

686
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 5: that they might not feel as strongly with Brown or Adams,

687
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 5: and now you're asking about other players playing, versus the

688
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: moment Will Hernandez is ready and healthy to go, he's

689
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: automatically starter. I don't think that's the case.

690
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm I'm not. I forget this whole thing of like,

691
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: as soon as he's healthy, he's I'm saying, is Will

692
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 4: Hernandez starting by mid season? And yeah, it's going to

693
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: involve other people, That's that's part of the question.

694
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: I guess I'll be specific and I'll probably regret to

695
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: do this, but I'll say Week four, Thursday night against Seattle,

696
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: there's a certain defensive lineman by the name of Big

697
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: Cat Williams coming to town, and dude was a problem

698
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: last year.

699
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: This is true.

700
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: Will Hernandez playing those games, Yeah, I would. I'd love

701
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: to see healthy, stout Will Hernandez playing the same brand

702
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: of ball he's playing last year when he went down

703
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: against Leonard Williams.

704
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: This year, well, I feel good that Will Hernandez will

705
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: be stout regardless.

706
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the greatest choice of adjectives, so anyway, so

707
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: I'll go down. I'll go down with that one. Will

708
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Hernandez by week four a starter. Not sure which guard position.

709
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: I'd probably say left guard because I just think Isaiah

710
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: Adams is the future. They're not going to mess with him,

711
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: and Will Hernandez for the Giants, started a lot of

712
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: games in left guard.

713
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: So it's going to be fascinating to watch. I just

714
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 4: I am. I think when you look at this, especially

715
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: once Hernandez is healthy, whether he's playing or not, the

716
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 4: idea that you have Will Hernandez and Kelvin Beacham is

717
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: your top two backup offensive lineman. I think it's just

718
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: that's next level like that really tells you where you

719
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 4: are is an offensive line. No matter what everybody keeps

720
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: wanting to say, apparently out there in the world that

721
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 4: the Cardinals don't have a good enough offensive.

722
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: Line, I'm going to say by week four, then know

723
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 5: Hernandez is not your starting left guard, I'll go opposite

724
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: to you.

725
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: I tried to go week seven. Nobody wanted to go

726
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: week seven. Everybody took it all the way back to

727
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: Week four.

728
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: And by the way, if I had to pick one

729
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: under the radar guy who's vital to the entire team,

730
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: I'd probably go with the right tackle, Jonah Williams. When

731
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: Jonah Williams was healthy last year, it was a different

732
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: offensive line. Yes, he was for everything he fought through

733
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: in terms of injuries, I mean he was good. He

734
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: literally did a good job.

735
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 5: The only reason I have a smart opposite of you

736
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 5: is when you say he was healthy that was for

737
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: a quarter a half of Week one in Buffalo.

738
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: Yes, and we all know what happened after he left

739
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: that Buffalo game. It's not the same Cardinals protection, run blocking,

740
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: and so.

741
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 4: I went through four right tackles by week three.

742
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm looking forward, although I still one of

743
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: the big questions that I want an answer to. It's

744
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: third and you gotta have it. It's fourth and you

745
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: gotta have it. Who you running, who you're running behind. Okay,

746
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: I threw that out there on Wolf. Wolf talked me

747
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: off that one, but he said, it's can be tough

748
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: to get to the tackle. You need an interior offensive lineman.

749
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: You got to run behind on third and one, fourth

750
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: and one. You know, you gotta stoke it straight north

751
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: who you're running behind. So if Isaia Adams can maybe

752
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: be that guy.

753
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: You know, we'll see.

754
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll figure figure that one out. Uh.

755
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: And then the other thing we have no idea do

756
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: we Walter Nolan, Balal Nichols, b jo Jelaari. We know

757
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: when they're eligible to come off pop and start practicing again.

758
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: That would be after the Seahawks game week four. But

759
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: other than that, I mean, there's a lot of gray

760
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: area right there.

761
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 4: Correct, I'll be honest, Like, I mean, Nolan's different because

762
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: his injuries we're talking. Balal Nichols has been out since

763
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 4: Week six last year. Bijo Jalai got hurt in training

764
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: camp last year. The fact that we're still talking about rehabbing.

765
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: The Yeah, not great, yep. So what else did I

766
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: miss it or anything else stand out in terms of

767
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: the numbers of the particular rooms, you know, I mean you,

768
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean five receivers. That's not a shock, right, I

769
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: mean the fact that, I mean, how many guys If

770
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: you're Zay Weaver, you know, maybe your roles in the

771
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: return game, maybe you don't even dress on game day,

772
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. But beyond that nine offensive line, and

773
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 2: that's how many they had a year ago, correct, nine? Yeah,

774
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: broke camp. Really, the only big difference is they have

775
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: one more corner than they broke camp with a year ago.

776
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 5: Correct in the defensive line, and six on the roster

777
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: last year you go to seven good on CJ. Mustifor

778
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 5: that that's another player who had a very good training

779
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 5: camp in preseason.

780
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 4: And seven for now because one of them is Justin

781
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 4: Jones to will Yeah, maybe maybe that's where that discrepancy

782
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: comes from.

783
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 5: Right, I mean, yeah, we could go back and forth,

784
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 5: because then we say six and then if Nolan is healthy,

785
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: goes back up.

786
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: Right, But although I will say down the road, as

787
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: good as PJ. Mustifor has been, that might be your cut.

788
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 5: It's seven, you won't have eight O.

789
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's right because Justin Jones will

790
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 4: eventually be back too. Yeah.

791
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: All right, last question, and we can pick this up

792
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 2: next week if you want more time to think about this,

793
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: But give me one aspect of this team, one trade

794
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: to this team. Something you know about this team right here,

795
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: right now that you think the rest of the NFL

796
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: will find out in two weeks. What do you think

797
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: you might have noticed or gleaned. And same with Cardinals fans.

798
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm not talking classified or inside info, just those who

799
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 2: have watched every single that I really a preseason game

800
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: that you saw, Like, what do you think I think?

801
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: I think? I think Trey Benson's gonna be pretty good?

802
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 4: I don't. It's it's funny with all the running back

803
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: conversation over the last few days has been amazing because

804
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 4: Michael Carter came in, gave one of the greatest press

805
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: conferences last week. We talked about it. I think we

806
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 4: talked about it. I can't remember, but it gave great

807
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: press conference last week. Everybody's like, is he gonna make

808
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 4: this team? All I saw over the weekend was I

809
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: don't understand why DJ Dallas is making this team over

810
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: Michael Carter. How come they cut Michael Carter. I had

811
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 4: multiple people say I think Michael Carter is better than

812
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: Trey Benson. Obviously, as it turned out, the coaches decided

813
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 4: that Bam Knight is the guy over both though, both

814
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: Dallas and Knight and Carter. But I just it feels

815
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: like Trey Benson has been slept on to a certain extent.

816
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: I agree that when he first came into the league

817
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 4: he looked like a guy who was doing that Kyler thing.

818
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 4: When he first got the league, I'm I can outrun

819
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: all these guys to the edge. Oh wait, I can't.

820
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: But before he hurt his ankle, he had figured it out.

821
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: And that's what I've seen in practice, and that's what

822
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: I saw in his limited time in the games. And

823
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure why people aren't seeing that. And I

824
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: think I still think James Connor is going to be

825
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: the workhorse, but I think Trey Benson is going to

826
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: be really good.

827
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 5: Dante still is going to have a phenomenal year. That

828
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: is a name. Not even just in preseason games and practices,

829
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 5: he was great. You can tell that going into his

830
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 5: third year, he is much more comfortable and he has

831
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: been more consistent in winning his reps. And we talk

832
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 5: a lot about the new faces up front of Dalvin, Tomlinson,

833
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 5: Kalaius Campbell, Josh Sweat outside Dante Stills is a name

834
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 5: I would keep an eye on as somebody who is

835
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 5: going to be a big problem for offenses.

836
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: All Right, I'll go mac Wilson Senior.

837
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: It's a good one.

838
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: I think he's going to have a breakout year. I

839
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: just think, you know two words, athletic thumper. He's going

840
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: to go sideline to sideline and with that revamped and

841
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: reset defensive front, if he's kept clean, and I just

842
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: think he's going to bring more athleticism than you saw

843
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 2: last year. He might even bring more physicality at that

844
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: position you saw last year. Just the way he's able

845
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: to attack and affect the quarterback and if they decide

846
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: to blitz him or bring him various ways off the edge,

847
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: we know is aptitude for that. That's primarily what he

848
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: did the second half of last year, just out of

849
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: necessity because of injuries. I just think mac Wilson Senior

850
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: is going to make a name for himself this year.

851
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 5: Friendly reminder that when cornerback Garrett Williams has a fantastic season.

852
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: I was the only person to pick him as MVP

853
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 5: for our Year end Awards last year. So just remember that.

854
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. He's going to have

855
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 4: a great season this year. And you want credit because

856
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: you picked him as MVP.

857
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 5: For Yeah, because I called it, Yes.

858
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 4: Because I call it that was for last season.

859
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 5: I'm saying I acknowledged how good he was before everybody else.

860
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 5: Will don't be salty because I'm right.

861
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: See, Darren has that look on his face that I

862
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: had last week in the Michael Carter press conference, the

863
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: aforementioned yes, when he said he's been so locked into

864
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: football during camp, he's been forgetting to call his parents

865
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: and he gets a mistake because now his parents are

866
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: quote in their fifties.

867
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 4: And things happened naturally. And I've sent that video to everybody.

868
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: I almost just you know, walked out in protest of.

869
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: You can hear me on the video going, hey, hey, hey, right,

870
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: that's right. Not winning behavior. Michael Carter's right, that's right.

871
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: If the light was on, we turn it off, and

872
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: that'll do it for this way.

873
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: Don't we want to have real winning behavior?

874
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that's two weeks in a row, screwed

875
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: it up, and then I wanted to get into the clubhouse,

876
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: thinking all right, and I what I try.

877
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: To lead them there?

878
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. All right, it's not on the prompter.

879
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: Can you display winning behavior? You have to consistently display

880
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: winning behavior. That's winning behavior.

881
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 5: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

882
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 5: people to that standard.

883
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, someone bad, lead off, Go ahead, I'm

884
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: handing the baton over winning behavior. Let's see food influencers.

885
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: I don't want to profile anybody here, Danny, you want

886
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: to take that one.

887
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 5: I actually didn't put this on the rundown, but I

888
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 5: will take it. There were these food influencers, and if

889
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 5: you're thinking what does that mean, it's exactly what. It

890
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 5: sounds like. People eat on camera and they give reviews,

891
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 5: or they just have people who watch and like watching

892
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 5: people eat. I guess. So anyway, there are these two

893
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 5: food influencers, and I don't know who they are, Nina

894
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 5: Unrated and Patrick Blackwood. They were sitting on the same

895
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 5: booth eating, which is already a red flag. But I'm

896
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 5: just gonna give it to them and say, maybe that's

897
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: just for camera optics. As they're taking a bite of

898
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: their food. They are in a booth next to the window.

899
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: A car crashes through the restaurant and they get hit

900
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 5: mid bite on camera.

901
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw the video. I no idea who it was,

902
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: so now I'm filling in the blanks. That's well done.

903
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 5: Okay, thankfully no major injuries. But what are the odds?

904
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, not good. That wasn't like, you know, hater's

905
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: gonna hate. That wasn't like.

906
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: So what are we saying? And that's winning behavior that.

907
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 5: They live not with? Oh I was not winning behavior.

908
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 5: You get hit by a car.

909
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: No, that's also true.

910
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: When you're indoors. I mean you want you want a story.

911
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: If you want a story about getting hit by a car,

912
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: I'll be leading a breakout session.

913
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 4: After this edition of the podcast. I heard about this anyway,

914
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: let's go. This was one that I enjoyed. Minnesota high

915
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 4: school football, the Apple Valley Eagles. They have had to

916
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: move all of their games from night games to day

917
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 4: games because there are these ospreys that are nesting in

918
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: their light towers. And the ospreys are protected under state

919
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 4: and federal law, and there's no way to get their

920
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: nest down and if you turn on the lights, they

921
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: would have risked quote cooking the birds and starting a

922
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: fire unquote. So they're like, well, we can't turn these

923
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 4: lights on. So now this whole high school season they've

924
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: had to move game.

925
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 5: That is winning behavior for animals everywhere.

926
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 4: Just take over.

927
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 5: Technically, we've taken over, Darren.

928
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you better have laws that are protecting you,

929
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: because if you're just a random bird took you.

930
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: Well, what if it's a Thanksgiving Day football game? Can

931
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: you cook the birds? Then?

932
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 4: Not funny, Paul, I've never had osprey, to be honest.

933
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: It reminds me and I took my first job in Medford, Oregon,

934
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: and there was a massive fight going on the spotted owl.

935
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: Do you remember that controversy, Darren?

936
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: Way back vaguely the spotted owl got everything to do

937
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: with the.

938
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 5: Whale, and we talked about the dead whale blown up

939
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 5: to peat. That was one of the worst days of

940
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 5: my life.

941
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: I mean, the entire state of Oregon was divided by

942
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: a spotted owl.

943
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 4: To be honest, it was the worst day. You heard

944
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 4: about it the actual you were ar don't tell.

945
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: Me, don't tell me how I felt hearing about it.

946
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: One of the worst days, never ever dare to tell

947
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: you how you feel you do a great job all

948
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 4: by yourself.

949
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: Is anyone going to tell you about a car wash?

950
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: It says here, Okay, this is funny because I put

951
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: this in last week before the Haboob This was not

952
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: during the Haboob storm. But I when we came home

953
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: from Denver, my car, I'm sure everybody's was a mess

954
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: with all the dust and crap on it, and I'd

955
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: been meaning to get a car wash, and like a

956
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: couple of days after we're home, it started raining really

957
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 4: hard for about a half hour at my house. So

958
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: I just pulled my car out and left it in

959
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: the rain, and then when it slowed down, I pull

960
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 4: back in the garage and wiped it down. I'm like, okay,

961
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: not a great car wash, but I felt like that

962
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 4: was winning behavior. I'm like, let's let's use what nature

963
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 4: is giving you. And I didn't use any of my

964
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 4: water I was paying for.

965
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: You want to know a funny story, And this maybe

966
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 5: must be a thing just in Texas or maybe where

967
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm from.

968
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Darren, that's naturally reclaimed water. So you're environmentally

969
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: friendly too.

970
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 5: If you get a car wash and you keep your

971
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 5: receipt and it rains within twenty four hours of getting

972
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 5: your car wash, you can go and get another free wash.

973
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get this here got this?

974
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 5: Oh not where I've tried, because when I first moved

975
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: to Arizona, I got my car washed and it rained

976
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 5: the next day and I went back to this car

977
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 5: wash and I was like, oh, do you guys like

978
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: I had my receipt, do you guys do another wash

979
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: if it rains in twenty four hours? And he looked

980
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 5: at me like I had a third eye. He was like, no,

981
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: I've never heard of that before. And I was like, oh,

982
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 5: this is really embarrassing.

983
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: Definitely places that I get to.

984
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: Know Ron Wolfley, I can tell you for a fact

985
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: as a twenty year track record of the only time

986
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: is f one fifty gets washed is when it rains

987
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: so really monsoon season. He's the only time it ever

988
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: gets washed. By the way speaking influencers are, are we

989
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: now done? Do we have anything else? At Ben de Nucci?

990
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 5: Okay, I see this on Twitter.

991
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: I did see that. That was I thought that he.

992
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 5: Handled getting cut in a very classy way. And it's

993
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: always you know what, if you can have a little

994
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 5: fun with yourself so other people aren't making fun of you.

995
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 5: Ben Denucci was cut from the Falcons and he tweeted

996
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 5: a picture of an airport beer, which is top of

997
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 5: the list of beers you can have, and he said

998
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: in his tweet, not many beers better than the airport quote.

999
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: I just got cut from the NFL for the seven

1000
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 5: time beer. Trust me, you wouldn't understand. He followed it

1001
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: up with another video where he is walking into his

1002
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: house and he opens up a box and it's a

1003
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 5: black blazer and it's his way of announcing he's going

1004
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 5: to be involved with CBS Sports college football coverage. So

1005
00:47:59,600 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 5: good on.

1006
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: So he had a job waiting for him. Now that's

1007
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 4: just smart.

1008
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: So my segue to quarterbacks and tiny influencers. I just

1009
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: texted my fifteen year old and I said, who was

1010
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: that influencer you cited yesterday? And she texted me back, Oh, yeah,

1011
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: Madison Beer and that football guy.

1012
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: Okay, i've seen Madison Beer a name. Who is that?

1013
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 5: She's a singer, I say, with someone of a question mark.

1014
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. She also acts I couldn't name one

1015
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: song by her. Maybe I'll have to culture myself so

1016
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 5: I can culture the two of you. She has been

1017
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 5: seen though with Justin Herbert of the Los Angeles Chargers

1018
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 5: you go, although one of the paparazzi photos of them,

1019
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 5: like grabbing lunch, Herbert was still wearing his legs leeve

1020
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 5: out in public, which I thought was pretty funny, like

1021
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 5: he had just walked off, had some swelling.

1022
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 4: Give him a break.

1023
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the next power couple, are you called?

1024
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: They're the next Travis and Taylor.

1025
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Darren needs somewhere to go with

1026
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: all his online searching. I mean, you know now that,

1027
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: now that that's finalized and it's official and they're gonna

1028
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: get married, the next power couple isn't Jerry and Micah.

1029
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 4: You know they're the only ones without a contract.

1030
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Now, don't don't, don't look at me.

1031
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: There was someone here prenup for Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift.

1032
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: Mike probably significant. Yeah, Actually, my favorite tweet I knowed,

1033
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: I knowed the other tweet about Travis and uh Taylor

1034
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 4: Swift originally my favorite response tweet along those lines, the

1035
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 4: uh I'm gonna leave out the adjective, but Darren Ravel

1036
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: the business guy decides right when everybody's talking about this.

1037
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 4: He's going to tweet out Taylor Swift net worth is

1038
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: eight times more than Travis Kelcey.

1039
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 5: Classic.

1040
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: Okay, so jj Watt responded and said, that's exactly what

1041
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: everybody was waiting to hear. Darren, thank you for that.

1042
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 5: I think they're I think they're friends. I don't think

1043
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 5: that was a dig at Darren. I'm pretty sure they

1044
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 5: are like partners in certain sure. I'm pretty sure on

1045
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 5: certain business endeavors, I think they are. It felt like,

1046
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: but I think they're friends.

1047
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: There's my final contribution. I have a buddy who's a

1048
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: financial manager, financial advisor, I guess you would say, And

1049
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: he told me the other day he has an influencer

1050
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: who makes a lot more and I mean a lot

1051
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: more than several doctors that he has as clients. So

1052
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: that's the way it works.

1053
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 5: You know what, Paul, I wouldn't recommend you movingto meteorology,

1054
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: but you could be an influencer.

1055
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: You just have to serve a need, Okay, fill a

1056
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: need and do a really good job filling a need

1057
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 2: in the marketplace. There's obviously a need for these influencers.

1058
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 5: You should see if you can apply to be an

1059
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 5: influencer with Cheeto to that special airline for.

1060
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 2: Dogs, you know, just for that. I have a video

1061
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: of Cheeto I might have to send out here via

1062
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: Twitter on National Dog Day. We'll see there is there

1063
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: is one that the exactly you know what nineteen Airbud

1064
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 2: movies I'm just reading, and I'm.

1065
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 5: Sure they get better every time.

1066
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: No free lunch, if he could even be an extra Cheeto,

1067
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: get an extra get a little pain gig on the side,

1068
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: little side hustle.

1069
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 4: I thought the whole point of the Airbud movies was

1070
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: there was one dog with people. What were there no

1071
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: dog extras?

1072
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: And if there were, you know, you cg or whatever.

1073
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: And you just have to watch the movies before you

1074
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 5: ask the question.

1075
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm out of questions and most definitely out

1076
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 2: of answers. That'll do it for this edition of Cardinals Underground,

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