Speaker 1: Lame. He laugh. If you watch coffee time too, Baby,
Speaker 1: you know the name flame, my role also known as
Speaker 1: my role Flame. Come in with last and come in
Speaker 1: with jamn love lounds. Baby, you better catch it when
Speaker 1: you can't drop a knowledge from fatherhood to politics, shouting
Speaker 1: now comics just paying homics. What's up? Tip? Yeah? You
Speaker 1: know she raped shot towns on speaking to the grown.
Speaker 1: And second we're gonna last cut of the kicking in
Speaker 1: at the end we leave it, which is a lift
Speaker 1: you spirit. You think you want to revisit, tell your
Speaker 1: first take a listen, jim, folks, it's lit old folks
Speaker 1: that we take it to. No kiss, do what you don't,
Speaker 1: no kiss, do what you do? Can't no kids do
Speaker 1: what I do? No kiss? She so tell everybody where
Speaker 1: are you right now? Why are you not with me?
Speaker 1: I am in a Lando, Florida when the pageant is
Speaker 1: kids and support our girl up on occasion tonight for
Speaker 1: the paget for the wind go yeah yeah, And I'm
Speaker 1: coming home tomorrow. So I've been looking like the mastering
Speaker 1: Ers and stuff in here, and guess what's going to
Speaker 1: the paging with me tonight? Guess what I'm taking? Lisaw
Speaker 1: right we knew that exactly period. Don't get close. Well,
Speaker 1: we do want to take this opportunity to officially welcome
Speaker 1: everybody to laugh and learn. Like we said, things are
Speaker 1: a little different today. Flames on here, I'm by myself
Speaker 1: and we've got to go live from our respective social
Speaker 1: media is to make this episode happen. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: make it work. So I'm gonna take this opportunity to
Speaker 1: bring in our other co host, Mr. Nick Smith. Hi, Nick. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what we do. We make it work. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm in the right spot. I'm okay, Lauren, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look good. I'm on my phone. I'm not even
Speaker 1: on the iPad because we had issues with it. So
Speaker 1: you're making it work. We're making it work. That's what
Speaker 1: we do. You know. It's almost like mother Voucher has
Speaker 1: left and now we have keys to the house that
Speaker 1: we can just run wild. Right. I snuck in, well,
Speaker 1: actually the kids let me in, So the kids let
Speaker 1: me in the house, so I'm here. So I have
Speaker 1: to say, this is very different. I don't know this
Speaker 1: is It's just funny seeing you've gotten smaller. See the
Speaker 1: screen you're on the smaller screen. Now when we still
Speaker 1: get the same personality, are we are we having way
Speaker 1: issues to your what what do you mean about? We
Speaker 1: always sat at the weight. So if you guys do
Speaker 1: not know if you follow me regularly, let me put
Speaker 1: it like this. Identified as laughing her today, but I'm
Speaker 1: feeling quite love loungesh. The eyes is telling the story
Speaker 1: for you, so you don't even have to say anything
Speaker 1: as love lounges, love lounges. That's all right, that's all right.
Speaker 1: Make sure you tell our girl what's up. And we
Speaker 1: appreciate her and we're sending her support from across the miles.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a lot of things we were
Speaker 1: talking about this week. I think we should just go
Speaker 1: ahead and jump on in and get started there right
Speaker 1: happy Monday, you know. One of the things we always
Speaker 1: do as we start off with things that have kind
Speaker 1: of like impact acted us this week or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I sent you all, uh this earlier because I think
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to Kim Janey.
Speaker 1: Kim Janey, for those who may or may not know,
Speaker 1: it's now like the first African American woman to be
Speaker 1: mayor for the city of Boston, So that is just
Speaker 1: huge I just thought that was fantastic. Black girl magic,
Speaker 1: we are taking over. She didn't wait it, but but
Speaker 1: she was moved into that position. It don't matter how
Speaker 1: we get there, we get there exactly. Representation matters, black
Speaker 1: girl magic matters. Let's talk about that. I know all
Speaker 1: about that bad plame. There's nobody there, Flamed to touch you,
Speaker 1: to see if you smell good, because we don't know
Speaker 1: how you smell today. I gotta touch you virtually. Listen
Speaker 1: to all this drama we got going on in this country.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I hope you guys had a
Speaker 1: chance to watch the Tenda turn of documentary over this weekend.
Speaker 1: It was so fantastic and so moving. And when I
Speaker 1: tell you that miss Tina is living like the grand
Speaker 1: queen that she is, oh my god. It was home
Speaker 1: is beautiful, The story gap beautiful even through all the
Speaker 1: Ya gotta watch it. It was very entertaining. And then
Speaker 1: a fat pretty bitch continuing pictures that would be me,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yeah, yeah, watch it, And I will say
Speaker 1: those pictures look quite lovely, those pictures. If you are
Speaker 1: the wonder what Flame is talking about there on her
Speaker 1: I g page, So take a look at those pictures
Speaker 1: when you get a chance, and you'll see uh Tina
Speaker 1: in various forms. Did you watch it? I love the documentary.
Speaker 1: I learned some new things about miss Tina Turner. Um.
Speaker 1: I definitely recommend everybody go and watch it. Um. The
Speaker 1: thing that kind of shocked me the most off and
Speaker 1: just say this is when her son Craig said that
Speaker 1: I threw um scalding hot coffee on her and gave
Speaker 1: her third three burns. Listen, I'd have gone to jail
Speaker 1: for murder. But anyway, that was a different time. The
Speaker 1: Lauren I'm telling you women, not that it was more accepted,
Speaker 1: but it just it was like almost like commonplace and
Speaker 1: women just dealt with it. And you know, we say
Speaker 1: this now because the whole women's limperation, but it was
Speaker 1: just back the end, it was just and the you
Speaker 1: don't say nothing when you knew what was going on,
Speaker 1: You just kind of push it up under the rugs.
Speaker 1: It's shacked up. But now's too over. Everybody gotta meet
Speaker 1: too moving. Somebody touched me appropriate ship, Well, well I
Speaker 1: invite you, so, yes you are. You know it just
Speaker 1: it shows you again how time to change. It's fun.
Speaker 1: You would say that Lauren because the show Madman, there
Speaker 1: was a character who uh he was just you know,
Speaker 1: swab the lead of the lead character whatever. And I
Speaker 1: remember saying to my mom because he ended up wearing
Speaker 1: this girl who's so young and attractive, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just don't get that. She's like what I said,
Speaker 1: why would she marry him? He's like divorce and she's
Speaker 1: young and attractive, she has the world in front of her.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, Nick, women did that then? That that
Speaker 1: was he was considered a good catch. You you did
Speaker 1: things like that. Then women weren't always wanting to lead
Speaker 1: their own way and be their own person. They wanted
Speaker 1: to attach to someone Draper, Don Draper, somebody. He was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a good catch. And I'm like, the
Speaker 1: way you drink wow, okay, but but there you go,
Speaker 1: so well that listen that though, I can't understand though,
Speaker 1: because marriage, yes, the I feel like the love comes secondary.
Speaker 1: Marriage is a business contract first and foremost. If you
Speaker 1: want to get married, that's a business contract. So that Nick,
Speaker 1: I understand that it was the abuse. I just you know,
Speaker 1: but like Flames said, maybe it was a different time.
Speaker 1: Women are more liberated now and we're more outspoken. But listen,
Speaker 1: that's golden pot of coffee. That wasn't happening. That was
Speaker 1: happening with Lord. Like notice you can and you can
Speaker 1: see the rules on one. I think it's on hard
Speaker 1: right maybe right on. You can see the actual rules
Speaker 1: on her arm because she showed it, young man. Why
Speaker 1: shouldn't the documented I love the fact that Tinag is
Speaker 1: still alive and we heard these words from Tina. It
Speaker 1: wasn't somebody telling her story as she happened on. I
Speaker 1: wish more people at a certain age, you know, would
Speaker 1: start telling their own stories because it just it reads
Speaker 1: better to me. Flame. I'm glad you said that because
Speaker 1: that's the same thing you. You know, you and I
Speaker 1: both like Diana, I would love for ms Ross to
Speaker 1: tell her own stirl. We've read a lot of things
Speaker 1: about Ms Ross. I would love for her to tell
Speaker 1: her own story about Is it true that you know
Speaker 1: people couldn't look her in the eye and things like that,
Speaker 1: Like I can't believe that's who she is, but I
Speaker 1: do believe that like Aretha, like you and I talked
Speaker 1: about Flame, she knew who she was, She knew the
Speaker 1: power she brought into the room, and probably demanded that
Speaker 1: respect from you, like, you're not just gonna yo, Diana. No, wait,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you will say ms Ross. You know
Speaker 1: that type of thing. That's just Detroit, baby Detroit. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you. I was, I was having you. I'm
Speaker 1: having a good vacation. Of course, I'm in a hotel room.
Speaker 1: I turned on the TV. I turned on news. What's
Speaker 1: only here last today? Two things. One is so we're
Speaker 1: gonna get serious about career. But the first one was
Speaker 1: about this whole Fauci verche ship coming out after the fact.
Speaker 1: I see it from jump. Don't throw the back and
Speaker 1: have your hand when you I had a position to
Speaker 1: say something to say some people, you should have said something.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know fave hundred thousand deaths later,
Speaker 1: I don't keep it. That was just lift service. I
Speaker 1: ain't band it. Yeah, that's a that's a touchy subject
Speaker 1: for sure, though. But I think I think in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, a lot of people are gonna find
Speaker 1: fault with Dr Fauci and Deborah Berks for the simple
Speaker 1: fact that they felt like they knew they had the
Speaker 1: information and they didn't correct Trump. But we've talked about
Speaker 1: this on this show too. When it came to Trump.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a lot of blackmail on people
Speaker 1: and different things to you know, whatever the situation was
Speaker 1: as to why people chose not to speak out against him.
Speaker 1: So I think that's probably something that's going to follow
Speaker 1: them the rest of their career. At this point is
Speaker 1: people are just gonna feel like they didn't share enough
Speaker 1: information and they knew better. I think two things with that, Lauren.
Speaker 1: I think uh Fauci once again has an opportunity to
Speaker 1: rewrite his narrative because he's still in it makes sense,
Speaker 1: and he led the nation through the whole AIDS pandemic,
Speaker 1: so he has he has like um equity built in. No,
Speaker 1: he was the one who was pushing a d killing them.
Speaker 1: I was right there with you, Nick, Oh, I was
Speaker 1: right there with you. If you remember. He was also
Speaker 1: the only one who would meet with Act up, you know,
Speaker 1: like they were trying to get an audience, and so
Speaker 1: he was trying anything that they could but I didn't
Speaker 1: want Again he did. Still nothing has changed. I will
Speaker 1: say this, Nick, being that I do work for an
Speaker 1: aide organization. A lot of people that I work with
Speaker 1: are not fans of Fauci, who were who were entrenched
Speaker 1: in the AIDS movement because it's like the ground in
Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, but they're still not a fan of
Speaker 1: him to this day because of what he did around
Speaker 1: the AIDS, around the AIDS movement, especially the AIDS pandemic
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, providing accurate information and a
Speaker 1: Z T and all these different things. So Flame is right,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say in terms of a lot
Speaker 1: of AIDS activists don't, aren't friends, are aren't, aren't fond
Speaker 1: of Dr Fauci. I'll say that. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead jump on the Flames said, uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: were talking about Dr Bricks and and found you of course.
Speaker 1: But Flame, you've often said this to every time you
Speaker 1: say something, somebody else comes right behind it and kind
Speaker 1: of echoes what you said. And you said, there's there's
Speaker 1: not heck wrong with me. I just look like this, right,
Speaker 1: So I just look like I get your ship wrong
Speaker 1: with me. I just look like this working. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: don't be working when it's opposed to, but it always works.
Speaker 1: And I don't forget. You're also never a fan of
Speaker 1: Jerome Adams. So Jerome Adams tweeted this morning fascinating to
Speaker 1: see zero support for Dr Bricks, the lone female doc
Speaker 1: in the room, even among women solo. Dada Bright immediately
Speaker 1: jumped on him and said, leadership was tested in this
Speaker 1: pandemic and many many people failed. It does not take
Speaker 1: courage to give support to allowing narcissist. This is b
Speaker 1: s and you know it. Goodbye, Dr Adams. It's like
Speaker 1: I said for him, did you write that? And tell
Speaker 1: so let me tell something. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: My general character sometimes to be a little off. I
Speaker 1: think it'd be had for the most part. I mean
Speaker 1: I can I can tell it. I've been around too
Speaker 1: many mustlers. I know you can smell it. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: and the obvious. Sometimes it's right there in our face
Speaker 1: and we just had to open ass and see it. Well,
Speaker 1: I just came bad. There's no trust for me there.
Speaker 1: And I did trust the science on the whole vaccine,
Speaker 1: but I never trusted the politics. They made it political
Speaker 1: any who. We don't get on that. So that was
Speaker 1: the one of the things you would come about. Number two.
Speaker 1: I turned on the news and remember last week when
Speaker 1: I stayed, sometimes I don't want to put things, invite
Speaker 1: them into my psyche into my DNA. I hate to,
Speaker 1: you know. I thought I had the feelings of watching
Speaker 1: George Floyd murder in our eyes. I thought those feelings
Speaker 1: and we had substidy, and then I watched this this morning,
Speaker 1: and it just like somebody just opened up the wound
Speaker 1: fresh and poured some fucking alcohol on it, and it
Speaker 1: hurt all over again. And and the and the hypocrisies.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to push that he did for us some
Speaker 1: already ongoing issues, and I'm telling you, it's so scary,
Speaker 1: it's so crazy, and it's kind of unbelievable, Like I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm actually living in this. This sounds like
Speaker 1: a ship that they wrote in a book that somebody thought,
Speaker 1: but we actually living in it right now. Is it
Speaker 1: hurts It just really did hurt me. It really seared
Speaker 1: me too, because I got teenagers that driving. Nick. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: I want to hear your thoughts before I say anything.
Speaker 1: Were kind of talking about this earlier, and we mentioned
Speaker 1: you earlier. I said, flame. You know, I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons this resonates for us so much because Lauren,
Speaker 1: you're much younger than we are, so you weren't you
Speaker 1: weren't you know, you weren't moving in this space when
Speaker 1: we watched Rodney King. We watched that playout, and it
Speaker 1: seemed like, um, and I know, you know, the history,
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm talking about as much as being
Speaker 1: there in the moment. So George Floyd, to me, it
Speaker 1: just seems like, I don't know, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's gut wrenching. You know people often use that, uh,
Speaker 1: that term, I think rather you know, loosely, but I
Speaker 1: don't know how to describe it other than what Flame said.
Speaker 1: It's just it just it just pulls at you. Like
Speaker 1: how anybody can see this and not be torn or
Speaker 1: affected by it? I just don't know. Yeah, Um, I've
Speaker 1: been watching the trial all morning, and I agree with
Speaker 1: both of you guys. I think to have to continually
Speaker 1: one I'm more so my heart goes out to his
Speaker 1: family because the fact that they have to keep reliving
Speaker 1: this experience of you know, of his death, his kids,
Speaker 1: you know, his sister, Like, it's just I just don't
Speaker 1: have the words for it. You know, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: something that you know, it's gonna stay with them forever,
Speaker 1: and I just really I don't have the words for it.
Speaker 1: I just my my heart goes out to them. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna continue to pray for them. I hope that justice
Speaker 1: is served and we actually get a conviction stay home,
Speaker 1: because I'm sitting here seeing it in my head. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you out now. If they don't sense it's this
Speaker 1: man correctly, Oh my god. I just, oh my god,
Speaker 1: just the aftermath of it all because I'm like you, Lord,
Speaker 1: we we I had on my I didn't even have
Speaker 1: to have my glasses on to see a clear murder
Speaker 1: happening in my face. Yeah, exactly. It's murder at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. And I think that it's very
Speaker 1: um it's degrading to the fact that they're trying to
Speaker 1: shift the narrative like Flame said to where oh, he
Speaker 1: died from pre existing health conditions and a drug overdose,
Speaker 1: when that's not the case. It's also come out that
Speaker 1: he was actually being you know, forcefully knelt on for
Speaker 1: nine minutes and twenty nine seconds and not the original
Speaker 1: eight minutes and forty six seconds that we thought. And
Speaker 1: the fact that Derek Chauvin had his knee on his
Speaker 1: neck for an additional five minutes after he was even unconscious.
Speaker 1: So I hope that the system actually works in our
Speaker 1: favor for once. I also hope that if he is convicted,
Speaker 1: that he doesn't get an appeals process to the point
Speaker 1: where you know, he gets to be liberated or exonerated
Speaker 1: from his charges. And from what I'm reading to there's
Speaker 1: a lot of there's some people on the police department,
Speaker 1: for instance, that are going to be um testifying against
Speaker 1: Derek Chauvin. So I think that there's some hopeful glimpses
Speaker 1: of light in this trial. We'll see if how it
Speaker 1: actually plays out. But I hope that justice is served.
Speaker 1: And you know, at the end of this if riots
Speaker 1: do happen, I hope that, you know, I hope that
Speaker 1: doesn't happened. Let me just say that I hope that
Speaker 1: we are we're able to come to a peaceful conclusion
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Because this family is hurting.
Speaker 1: That That's what I'll say, and and and and and
Speaker 1: all that I think us where one end with that
Speaker 1: that his family is hurting, and we need to um,
Speaker 1: we need to somehow have his death recognized as something
Speaker 1: that just cannot continue in its current uh, the way
Speaker 1: these things are happening more often than not and learn.
Speaker 1: And I know we want to move on, but I
Speaker 1: think what bothered me so much with all of that
Speaker 1: is people were screaming at him. Yo, dude, he can't breathe.
Speaker 1: People were watching you, and you just didn't care. You
Speaker 1: just didn't care. It was so anyway, we've all seen
Speaker 1: it so flame. I'm sorry that you are there alone
Speaker 1: feeling this right now, because I definitely understand how how
Speaker 1: difficult that that can be. You know, I'm good. Well,
Speaker 1: I think this is a good segue to Nick because
Speaker 1: something good did end up happening in New York. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm not may not be in order, but let's talk
Speaker 1: about qualified immunity. Because one of our flamets actually just
Speaker 1: sounded off in the comments about qualified immunity. So let's
Speaker 1: bring that topic to light. And what happened in New
Speaker 1: York City this past week qualified immunity. We're talking about,
Speaker 1: you guys. New York City limits qualified immunity making it
Speaker 1: easier to sue police for misconduct. And Lauren brought this
Speaker 1: subject up because we just felt like it was perfect
Speaker 1: for laugh and learn. We talk about these different things
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, many like to confuse the
Speaker 1: language of defund the police and and all of that
Speaker 1: where we're talking about police reform and how activists believe
Speaker 1: that there has to be a change in the way
Speaker 1: policing is done. New York City Council pass legislation aimed
Speaker 1: at reforming the New York Police Department by making it
Speaker 1: easier to sue police officers from misconduct. The Council last
Speaker 1: Thursday voted to limit qualified immunity, which became a focal
Speaker 1: point of the debate to reform policing across America last summer. Now,
Speaker 1: qualified immunity is defined as decades old like legal doctrine
Speaker 1: that often shields police officers in cases of excessive force
Speaker 1: or unreasonable search and seizure um. The newly passed legislation
Speaker 1: would allow victims of alleged police misconduct in New York
Speaker 1: City to bypas asked that and and bring a case
Speaker 1: for to be heard. So this is a big deal
Speaker 1: for people who have been fighting. It's huge, it's huge flame.
Speaker 1: I can't go ahead, I can't hear. It ain't gonna
Speaker 1: work for me. And today's size. Snatch the pensions that
Speaker 1: they gat to snatch the pensions, you start starting the
Speaker 1: pensions the police will take it more serious about all
Speaker 1: that abuse and ship they will because you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: tell me I didn't put twenty years in my life
Speaker 1: on the line for this, and now I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: it all the way because I because of a cram
Speaker 1: if somebody accused me of there, I think that the
Speaker 1: police course had to get more serious stie snats de
Speaker 1: pension and we take it seriously. I'm glad in that pass,
Speaker 1: but uh, it's gonna take a minute for the kick
Speaker 1: in a minute meaning about about ten fifteen years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: flame you right, there is that police pension in the
Speaker 1: union that is so strong because I think one of
Speaker 1: the other issues around this, Lauren, you and I've talked
Speaker 1: about this. I can leave one district and go right
Speaker 1: up the street to another. So yeah, those are things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but go ahead. My thing is I think it's interesting
Speaker 1: at because historically, in a lot of senses, New York
Speaker 1: City Police Department has been one of the most racist
Speaker 1: and one of the most brutal I think in our country.
Speaker 1: And some may argue or disagree, but that's my opinion. Um.
Speaker 1: I also, my whole family, you know, grew up in
Speaker 1: New York, so I have a lot of conversations with
Speaker 1: family members just about what police were like from you know,
Speaker 1: like the my my my friends, and my great grandmother.
Speaker 1: She's a hundred and one, So imagine being born in
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty and just seeing all of these different things
Speaker 1: transpire from generations and generations. So I say that to say,
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that they're the first city to actually,
Speaker 1: you know, put this into some type of legislation and law. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they've done that, and I think that
Speaker 1: hopefully this is a starting point for the reform that
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Because we set on this platform, I
Speaker 1: personally am not an advocate of the whole defund the police,
Speaker 1: because I think that we still need forms of police.
Speaker 1: I think it's more so we have to be able
Speaker 1: to teach and reallocate, you know, for since there's people
Speaker 1: in London that have police officers that don't necessarily carry
Speaker 1: weapons and they're able to you know, disarm suspects and
Speaker 1: these sort of things without having to kill anybody. So
Speaker 1: I think that this is a nice first step, especially
Speaker 1: considering it's New York City and they just have an
Speaker 1: historical background of just being brutal, especially when it comes
Speaker 1: to people of color. So I think it's a good
Speaker 1: first step. Oh my god, I'm living at the Comments State,
Speaker 1: Nicholas and Lauren and people still talking about the whole
Speaker 1: m George story thing at Baby. I think y'all owe
Speaker 1: us one. It's about that time, don't you always wanted
Speaker 1: y'all and Gabor was wanting, oh ja, And technically y'all
Speaker 1: could have kept that one because we think it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. Y'all think we should we bring in a
Speaker 1: flame mat or to Lauren, should we bring in let's
Speaker 1: bring in a flat. People definitely want to sound off
Speaker 1: on that, Kay, Cassie. Everybody else was not prepared. Hi, Flame,
Speaker 1: you funny and you're feeling it, that's for sure, Hi, Lauren, Hnick. No,
Speaker 1: My what I say is same with flames. Hit them
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Hit them in the pocket. If we
Speaker 1: have to pay for the stuff that we do, Like
Speaker 1: if I hit you, just like when you're in a
Speaker 1: car accident, it comes out of your insurance. I think
Speaker 1: police officers should have a like an insurance on themselves,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Um just like when you are
Speaker 1: a private not private, but um like when you own
Speaker 1: your own business and you have to get your insurance
Speaker 1: and on fact, okay, police officers should have to do
Speaker 1: the same thing. You should have to have your own
Speaker 1: insurance on you so that when you misbehaved, it's coming
Speaker 1: out of your behind. So like malpractice is what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, Like with doctors malpractice, insurance of some kind malpractice,
Speaker 1: but also not that. But like you know what, like
Speaker 1: you're a like a locksmith, you have to get bonded
Speaker 1: insured sure, so something I don't know if it's the
Speaker 1: same thing, but something like that, being bonded and insured,
Speaker 1: bonded it inshurt. Yes, bonded in your shirt. So when
Speaker 1: you mess up, it's coming out of your pocket. I
Speaker 1: agree with Flame that you hit him in the pocket.
Speaker 1: You gotta think twice before you pull that trigger. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna think twice before you um do stupid crap?
Speaker 1: There's just so much stupid crap going on. And as
Speaker 1: soon as I've seen that post about qualify the beautity oh,
Speaker 1: I sent it to Governor Instant and Washington State. I
Speaker 1: said to the mayor of the city of camp to
Speaker 1: the mayor of the City of Seattle, we need to
Speaker 1: qualified immunity across the United States to end it because
Speaker 1: they need to pay for their misbehavior. They really do.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Cassie, I definitely agree with you.
Speaker 1: That's my and sometimes I don't earth while we always
Speaker 1: waiting they get to you. Are you gonna when you're
Speaker 1: gonna get you us? When you go to him? And
Speaker 1: when you go I want to see it now. I
Speaker 1: think the only challenge with that, Lauren Flame what what
Speaker 1: cast talks about, which is a great idea. It all
Speaker 1: seems like retroactive or punitive after the fact, right, Like
Speaker 1: I think our issue is we need training to change
Speaker 1: right because we don't want it to get to this point.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's the problem because I think
Speaker 1: that there are many situations where officers forget that they
Speaker 1: work for us, they work for the citizen re That's
Speaker 1: very true. Hello, I Afferris, how are you? Hey? I'm good.
Speaker 1: How are you, Lauren? I'm good? So let us know
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about some of the topics were going over.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts. I think the Floyd thing is
Speaker 1: it's still a hard like hard no, Like I can't
Speaker 1: even watch it. I didn't watch it the first time
Speaker 1: and I don't ever want to see it. Um And
Speaker 1: that's someone whose brother was killed by the police. It
Speaker 1: all just keeps on going. It's like something I've been
Speaker 1: dealing with since I was a kid and it just
Speaker 1: hasn't off. And I really want to see some change
Speaker 1: for that. I mean, this little thing that they're doing
Speaker 1: in New York State is okay, but like Flames said,
Speaker 1: you gotta hit them in their pockets, like, and they
Speaker 1: can't get away with this, like they need to lose
Speaker 1: their pension, planes ship in my cases, in many cases,
Speaker 1: I think they should. You lose their damn lives. Put
Speaker 1: their asses in that chair at this point, because they're
Speaker 1: doing its own purpose. He knew what he was doing.
Speaker 1: There was a previous history between these two men. He
Speaker 1: was out for blood. He killed this man, and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry if they don't convict him. Oh this it's gonna
Speaker 1: burn down. It's gonna burn down because we're fed up
Speaker 1: and I don't want to support violence, but like at
Speaker 1: this point, if y'all do this to us, you're never
Speaker 1: gonna win. Let me, let me, let me say something.
Speaker 1: And I hit baby. When I tell you, I hear everything.
Speaker 1: When you it's like you swept with me with a whip,
Speaker 1: and I feel a stripe everything you speaking. But if
Speaker 1: we win, if we win, it's one victory, what is
Speaker 1: it gonna change for us? I want us to win
Speaker 1: and hear me, but we've gotta think long term. If
Speaker 1: we win, what is it gonna change to make us
Speaker 1: do better by us? Not just them? Because if we win,
Speaker 1: the country gonna erupt in victory and joy. If we lose,
Speaker 1: the country may possibly erupt in a whole different way.
Speaker 1: But if we do get this victory, as black men
Speaker 1: in this country, what we're gonna do for us because
Speaker 1: we can't keep leaning on them to give and do
Speaker 1: for us. So I don't want to and I don't
Speaker 1: want to sound like I'm against us. You know I
Speaker 1: love my brother, you know I love But but if
Speaker 1: we win the victory, we still gotta say, Okay, we
Speaker 1: get this victory, Now what else? Because this won't be
Speaker 1: nothing but one victory. What else? It has to be
Speaker 1: fair for everybody, not just the George Floyd and I
Speaker 1: hope we win. Is we see we want this rout
Speaker 1: because we if the Eminence is writing, our face is clear.
Speaker 1: But if we win, then we just have one victory
Speaker 1: we still gotta keep, which is horrible. We can't just
Speaker 1: get relaxed. That's that's happy, and we're gonna get relaxed
Speaker 1: every win, and then it's gonna happen fifty more times
Speaker 1: until it's another big one and then you know who's next.
Speaker 1: That's my feet. I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: You can feel the pain that I feel right now
Speaker 1: because I live in Buffalo, which is kind of like
Speaker 1: the south of the North, unfortunately, and there's like I
Speaker 1: just started driving because I moved here from Brooklyn, and
Speaker 1: I have so much anxiety when I'm driving because I'm
Speaker 1: just so afraid to get pulled over, Like it's about
Speaker 1: to be five o'clock here, and I'm like, I gotta
Speaker 1: get in a car, like I'm deadly afraid of like driving,
Speaker 1: and I have to know because I live in this city.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to sound like a punk, but
Speaker 1: it's a legit like like I'm nervous, like you never
Speaker 1: know what can happen. That's my take. I would don't
Speaker 1: feel like you're a punk. That's just the reality, especially
Speaker 1: that black men have to deal with black women as well.
Speaker 1: But that is a reality for you, So please don't
Speaker 1: ever say that you feel like a punk. That's something
Speaker 1: that you guys will always have to deal with mentally,
Speaker 1: and that's something that needs to be talked about. So
Speaker 1: please don't ever feel that way. I'll just say that
Speaker 1: first and foremost, and I will absolutely and as well.
Speaker 1: I I hear what you're saying to Flame in terms
Speaker 1: of us getting complacent, in terms of let's say we
Speaker 1: get this victory with George Floyd and Derek Shelton gets convicted.
Speaker 1: We don't want the country to get complacent. But I
Speaker 1: think that's where we step in and legislation needs to happen.
Speaker 1: You know, laws need to be created. So that's what
Speaker 1: I would say is probably what for me at this
Speaker 1: point in time, that's the only thing I can really
Speaker 1: think of, is that we're going to have to push
Speaker 1: some legislation and some new laws forward. That's how we
Speaker 1: continue to fight, and that's how we continue to push forward.
Speaker 1: Those would be my initial thoughts to the comments that
Speaker 1: you just made. Thank you well, thank you guys, and
Speaker 1: Flame you only a show. Thank you, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you absolutely, thank you. And this goes back to you
Speaker 1: know you guys, there's how how is it that everyday
Speaker 1: people are nervous just to drive their own car in
Speaker 1: their own you know. This is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: This is where things have gotten to. I didn't nervous
Speaker 1: driving their driving because but she remember the jump that
Speaker 1: I said on the Ready, which we just celebrated into
Speaker 1: your anniversary, and I said, the joke was, if I'm
Speaker 1: pulled over by the police, I'm more I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to say that I'm a trance woman than I am
Speaker 1: a black man, because the way the word is is
Speaker 1: there just the same two words different around makes the
Speaker 1: whole temperashire come down. Because if I'm a black man
Speaker 1: with tennis sounds offensive to them, I guess, as opposed
Speaker 1: to me saying I'm a trans woman. Maybe it sounds freakish.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it may be the difference for me
Speaker 1: between life and death. So I would rather say I
Speaker 1: was a trans woman. You know, I don't always play
Speaker 1: the training card, but people, but hey, I think that
Speaker 1: anytime we feel like we're in a fit of survival,
Speaker 1: you do whatever you can to survive. Absolutely. No, absolutely, absolutely, Lauren.
Speaker 1: Should we move on to the next topic there? Yes,
Speaker 1: this this is gonna be a heavy show. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to warn us it's it's really it's a heavy show,
Speaker 1: but these are topics that we have to discuss and
Speaker 1: that we would love insight on. I just feel like
Speaker 1: laugh and learn. The whole purpose is to provide a
Speaker 1: space so we can have these conversations and sometimes they're
Speaker 1: gonna be heavy and sometimes they're gonna be lighthearted. But
Speaker 1: that's just the premise of this show. So I'll just
Speaker 1: say as a forewarning to you, guys, we got heavy
Speaker 1: topics were talking about today, So we just said on
Speaker 1: the show, I agree with some of these comments. If
Speaker 1: you feel all that in your city, you really need
Speaker 1: to move because you're never gonna happiness there because you're
Speaker 1: gonna always walk around and the field and it's not
Speaker 1: good to live in fear. You should leave that town,
Speaker 1: found another job. You're gonna just have to make it.
Speaker 1: It will work out somewhere else. It always does, it
Speaker 1: always does. I think it's um go ahead, Lauren, no no, no.
Speaker 1: I was turning it over to you to see I
Speaker 1: think I was going to go ahead and move us
Speaker 1: in the direction Lauren. We we have like three other things,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna try to I want to get on
Speaker 1: this and then we can get off because we we
Speaker 1: brought up last week. We had talked about the hashtag
Speaker 1: stop Asian hate was trending. No sooner than we wrapped
Speaker 1: our show, Lauren, we had another mass shooting. Like literally
Speaker 1: we have had this conversation before that there's always another
Speaker 1: story waiting in the media cycle to Um, I won't
Speaker 1: say eclips the one before, but maybe shift focus. And
Speaker 1: I think that that is what's happened with the with
Speaker 1: the most recent shooting Dajore right, um and and we
Speaker 1: were just talking about that one, the new mass shooting
Speaker 1: in Boulder, Colorado. I think Vesper, I don't know if
Speaker 1: Vesper is here. Just hold I yeah, yeah, as y'all
Speaker 1: get Nicholas. I just feel like we have one every day.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, well that's what I want to talk
Speaker 1: about because I think I don't know if Vesper is
Speaker 1: on here, because I do want to bring him in
Speaker 1: at some point because we are going to talk about
Speaker 1: what happened in Georgia later on too. But he said
Speaker 1: it last week. He was saying, it's like these shootings
Speaker 1: were going to start, and it's almost like it was
Speaker 1: a prelude to what our week was going to be like.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy the world is opening up again, you know,
Speaker 1: covid is the cases are coming down in some states
Speaker 1: and some they're going up, i e. Florida. But it
Speaker 1: just seems like there's a new shooting every day. It
Speaker 1: just seems like there's a new shooting every day. White Flame,
Speaker 1: where your mask, You'll be fine. But yeah, it just
Speaker 1: seems like there's a new shooting every day. I think
Speaker 1: last week, last Wednesday or Thursday, I saw that there
Speaker 1: was like another four shootings in Atlanta, there were three
Speaker 1: here in Los angele List And there's just shootings happening
Speaker 1: that aren't even being covered because I guess it's not
Speaker 1: you know, there's not many victims, but there's so many
Speaker 1: shootings happening every day, and it's just like enough is enough,
Speaker 1: Like what's what's going on? What's going on? Two things? Were?
Speaker 1: Were you just to touch on what you were saying that.
Speaker 1: What CNN did is they released just a number of
Speaker 1: shootings that have actually happened during but sometimes they just
Speaker 1: happened so often, and unfortunately they cited up Flame in
Speaker 1: our hometown of Chicago. They say they just happened so
Speaker 1: much that it just doesn't stop the news cycle. So
Speaker 1: the mayor is not gonna go out. Yeah, we have
Speaker 1: fourteen people shot? What do you what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? Because if we did that every day, I
Speaker 1: don't know that it becomes too much or it just
Speaker 1: becomes white noise. But the idea was there have been
Speaker 1: a number of shootings. The shootings continue to happen. There
Speaker 1: was another shooting in Philadelphia. Uh, we're like, uh, eight
Speaker 1: or fourteen people were shot. But again it doesn't rise
Speaker 1: to the level of the supermarket thing because it was
Speaker 1: more of a house party and it's just part of
Speaker 1: the gun violence that happens, and and so that that's
Speaker 1: the deal of that. Maybe we need to take a
Speaker 1: new look at that. But I think that's part of
Speaker 1: the problem too, though, is that because so many shootings
Speaker 1: are happening, it's like we're going to normalize it. People
Speaker 1: dying and people being shot is never something that should
Speaker 1: be normalized. And I feel like that's what's starting to happen.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, another shooting happened, but ten people
Speaker 1: didn't die, so thank god for that. No, that should
Speaker 1: that should not be the case. Shooting should not be
Speaker 1: taking place right now. We need gun control, We need
Speaker 1: gun reform. Asap, because we brought this up for the
Speaker 1: simple fact that the shooter in Atlanta was able to
Speaker 1: register and buy a gun the same day, but you
Speaker 1: can't even do that with voting. Is absolutely ridiculous. So something,
Speaker 1: something's got to give, Something has got to give. It's
Speaker 1: just it's unacceptable that it's just we're just hearing about
Speaker 1: all these shootings and nobody's really flinching anymore. I think
Speaker 1: that has become the norm. We were talking about this, Uh,
Speaker 1: Flame and I were talking about this also just after
Speaker 1: this happened. We both saw some sound bite an interview
Speaker 1: with a young man who was about twenty, and he
Speaker 1: just talked about how, uh he saw his friend get
Speaker 1: shot but knew he could not run to her and
Speaker 1: offer aid or else he himself would have been shot.
Speaker 1: That he has not been in school since he's been
Speaker 1: in school where he has not had an active shooter drill.
Speaker 1: Like Flame and I talked about, we have no idea
Speaker 1: what do you do with that? Right? We did the
Speaker 1: earthquake thing where you got that. You know, everybody in
Speaker 1: California does you do the earthquake thing? You get under
Speaker 1: the table. That was the only drill we had, or
Speaker 1: maybe a fire drill every now and then, the idea
Speaker 1: that a class might might come into the school and
Speaker 1: or someone who isn't a classmate may come into the
Speaker 1: school and open fire. That kids now are so uh
Speaker 1: indoctrinated with what to do um that it becomes second
Speaker 1: nature that they know how to huddle, get quiet, lock
Speaker 1: the door, barricade. What what are you talking about? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like they've they've grown up with your generation,
Speaker 1: laur And I think has grown up with the idea
Speaker 1: of UH. School is not necessarily always a safe space.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. I remember even when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: there was a bomb scare that a student was bringing
Speaker 1: a bomb to the school and was going to blow
Speaker 1: up our school because he was being bullied and we
Speaker 1: didn't go to school for a week because they had
Speaker 1: to make sure they had to do a bomb sweep,
Speaker 1: the dogs had to come up. And then ever since
Speaker 1: that happened, like my last two years of high school,
Speaker 1: we had random dogs come into our school where they
Speaker 1: had to. And I went to school in Torrens, Torrens, California,
Speaker 1: for all the that's the uppity place I went to school,
Speaker 1: you know, with a lot of white kids and a
Speaker 1: lot of Asian kids. So, and there was a small
Speaker 1: group of black kids at um my high school. But
Speaker 1: it became routine. The dogs came to the school to
Speaker 1: do bomb sweeps, to do drug sweeps, to make sure
Speaker 1: that we were safe when we were okay. It just
Speaker 1: became a part of life. So I think that maybe
Speaker 1: my my time in high school was the beginning of
Speaker 1: what we're really seeing now because my mom my mom
Speaker 1: had said to me, had if I was in high
Speaker 1: school right now, she was like, I would have homeschooled you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel comfortable sending you to high school at
Speaker 1: this day and age, you would be homeschooled. Flame you
Speaker 1: remember when we were in school, the only scandal is
Speaker 1: maybe if somebody came up pregnant that that that was
Speaker 1: literally the only thing that that line right there, that
Speaker 1: one line right there and let me put the head
Speaker 1: in hand worked from me and on me. Good god,
Speaker 1: look it is it is just hiding that these students
Speaker 1: they're going on like this and like y'are both there.
Speaker 1: How do you just it's become commonplace. I don't know
Speaker 1: why these people are so angry, uh, And that some
Speaker 1: of it is racism, Some of it's yourself. Hey, here's
Speaker 1: my thing. If you want to kill yourself at home,
Speaker 1: not in your room, I'm not I'm not promoting that.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you can talk somebody off with it. Why
Speaker 1: why must you go out and kill seventy people? And
Speaker 1: it's the children and old people who live in their lives,
Speaker 1: just at the grocery store, just at a gas station,
Speaker 1: not even thinking about that. They don't know you. And
Speaker 1: maybe if you talk to them you might change your
Speaker 1: mand but you didn't because you went out on a
Speaker 1: mission to just kill for the to get what some
Speaker 1: notoriety for killing a bunch of innis some people, you
Speaker 1: don't have many laughs. These people have affected one of
Speaker 1: death affects how many different people. Some people love that
Speaker 1: so many people. It's just fucked up, period, And you're right,
Speaker 1: they need to change the gird loss. And I'm sticking
Speaker 1: y'all telling about everybody who get These a K assault
Speaker 1: righters get mental illness. They're not fucking mental illness. They
Speaker 1: funked up. They hate theyselves, so they want to kill
Speaker 1: everybody because they hate they self and they must see
Speaker 1: theirselfingen they shoot these people. I believe that they see
Speaker 1: themselves cool pett is I say it, and like you said, flame,
Speaker 1: it affects other people. Uh. They were just talking about
Speaker 1: the residual effect, like the the one guy who had
Speaker 1: officer had like seven kids, and they're saying that not
Speaker 1: only are those children affected, their friends now know them
Speaker 1: as oh there, that's so, and so their dad was
Speaker 1: the one killed, that they even start to treat them differently.
Speaker 1: That that, yeah, that the effects are just a ripple
Speaker 1: effect for every one involved. Absolutely, And I'll just say
Speaker 1: this too, it's not even just the mass shootings. Yes,
Speaker 1: are on the rise. But I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys saw this story. Um, yesterday two teenage girls one
Speaker 1: thirteen and fifteen were arrested I believe in Maryland for
Speaker 1: a car jacking that went wrong. They tasted an Uber
Speaker 1: driver because they tried to steal his car and he
Speaker 1: ended up running into the side of like a building
Speaker 1: and he was killed. So it's just I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on in our country right now. It's just
Speaker 1: a lot of turmoil. It seems like thirteen and fifteen
Speaker 1: two girls tried to do a car jacking and ended
Speaker 1: up killing the Uber driver because he ran they taste him.
Speaker 1: They tasted him with the stun gun and he lost control.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Nick, go ahead, Nick, that's almost my daughter's age.
Speaker 1: And here and here it is Lauren and Nick. As
Speaker 1: a parent, you think to yourself, I think to myself,
Speaker 1: I don't know how they were raised to the thing.
Speaker 1: How much drama have they had, had been a trauma
Speaker 1: have they been throughing the young life? Give them enough
Speaker 1: energy or strength or the heart to pull off something
Speaker 1: like this. This is like this ain't like stealing a
Speaker 1: piece of candy at the store, you know. This, Ain't
Speaker 1: like I'm pushing on my shoulder. We're gonna fight. This
Speaker 1: is serious. What kind of ship had they been through
Speaker 1: in their young lasting make them have the courage to
Speaker 1: do some ship like this? That that's the way you
Speaker 1: saw that the store. We always hear people talk about
Speaker 1: generational trauma. That clearly I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 1: Playing something has to be going on in the lives
Speaker 1: of those young women that that this is something that
Speaker 1: they're doing. Carjacking is that's that's pretty big, you know? Um?
Speaker 1: And fifteen? Absolutely, what at thirteen? What was I doing?
Speaker 1: I was playing catch the girl, Kiss the girl. I
Speaker 1: was always the girl, y'all? And I always, well, hey,
Speaker 1: and you kind of glossed over, But I do want
Speaker 1: to say congratulations. Can I believe that was two years ago?
Speaker 1: They ready? Yeah, yeah, they're ready. They really did you
Speaker 1: say that? I did when he cracked? We did the
Speaker 1: women did the interview Loan about a month a y'all
Speaker 1: February Yeah, wow, okay, but I'm looking at the comments
Speaker 1: and didn't serious reasons. But the reality is at thirteen,
Speaker 1: look girls thinking about little boys or or you know
Speaker 1: whatever they're going through, not carjacking somebody the e like, David,
Speaker 1: what has this chow experience to be able to have
Speaker 1: the which I'm I'm thirty fat, but I would never
Speaker 1: have the moms to do that when I got and
Speaker 1: we don't even tell this whole life, but I was like,
Speaker 1: where are we going with this? I still don't have
Speaker 1: to dumption to want to do something like that that
Speaker 1: is like wow, and thirteen Loan, I'm like, you're thirty,
Speaker 1: Well just close on that. Nothing in the federal system
Speaker 1: would have prevented the suspect, who we will not name
Speaker 1: because we don't want to glorify these people, from passing
Speaker 1: a background check and buying a firearm and that goes
Speaker 1: back to what you said, Lauren, that we have to
Speaker 1: do something with some kind of reform. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the answer is, but we've got to have the conversation.
Speaker 1: And anytime we have a Senate that is divided like this,
Speaker 1: it won't even bring the issue to the floor. I
Speaker 1: feel like, UM, I'm with you, Flame, I don't know
Speaker 1: what if Sandy Hook didn't do it, I really don't
Speaker 1: have much hope for uh anything after that, because I
Speaker 1: would think our most precious resource would have been the catalyst,
Speaker 1: UH to to invoke change. And I just want to
Speaker 1: bring this up to the crazy thing is we we
Speaker 1: There's so many different instances. We can you know, go
Speaker 1: back in history to Columbine, all these different things. But
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is the shooting that happened in Atlanta
Speaker 1: was I believe the day before or the day after
Speaker 1: the anniversary of the Parkman shooting. Literally, So it's just
Speaker 1: something's got to be done. And I feel like on
Speaker 1: that note too, we can kind of segue. We can
Speaker 1: segue into um, the next topic, which would honestly be Georgia.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about Georgia. We're talking about legislation reform,
Speaker 1: let's talk about what happened in Georgia with Park Cannon.
Speaker 1: Georgia Park get flame. Georgia lawmaker says she has shaken,
Speaker 1: but not shaken, but resolved. Following their arrest at the
Speaker 1: election bill signing, So what are we talking about? Representative
Speaker 1: Park Cannon, Democrat out of Georgia, was arrested for knocking
Speaker 1: on the door while Georgia Governor Brian Camp signed a
Speaker 1: sweeping election bill um to continue the fight of voting
Speaker 1: rights in Georgia. Uh Cannon faces charges of obstructing, obstructing
Speaker 1: law enforcement, and disrupting a general Assembly after she repeatedly
Speaker 1: knocked on the door of Kim's office as he held
Speaker 1: a private live stream of the bill signing. The ninety
Speaker 1: page bill adds new voting requirements for Georgia residents following
Speaker 1: the results of the election that flipped the traditionally red
Speaker 1: state blue Georgia. You're ye going for you? I know, yes,
Speaker 1: because you live there for a rap. They still don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know they're still man that Georgia to Georgia blue.
Speaker 1: That's how payback shit. They're playing dirty politics, That's all
Speaker 1: it is. Guess what we're gonna delono Crest don't has
Speaker 1: to get load. We're gonna they're gonna have to play.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't rise above in this situation because
Speaker 1: they don't think they're doing anything wrong. They're so used
Speaker 1: to doing it that their way that they're not gonna
Speaker 1: see no other way. Demo Crests don't have to get
Speaker 1: low deod Crest don't have to get granted. Well well
Speaker 1: more so to that, I just wanna explain the depth
Speaker 1: of this bill signing because two is going to be
Speaker 1: a really really big year in Georgia. Uh, Senator Warnox
Speaker 1: seat is going to be up for re election, Governor
Speaker 1: Kemp's seat is going to be up for re election,
Speaker 1: and so is the mayor. So this bill that Brian
Speaker 1: Kemp signed was so um important and is bringing so
Speaker 1: much attention for a myriad of reasons because Georgia has
Speaker 1: some really important elections coming up. So I really hope,
Speaker 1: you know, Stacy Abrams has done such a great job.
Speaker 1: I hope in a lot of ways she ends up
Speaker 1: running for governor again next year because I think that
Speaker 1: her being in that position is going to be such
Speaker 1: a saving grace for us. Um. You know, Mayor Keisha
Speaker 1: Lance Bottom like I said, her seat is gonna be up.
Speaker 1: They don't know what's gonna be happening in terms of
Speaker 1: the mayorial seat in Georgia. So this bill was the
Speaker 1: timing of it is no surprise because they knew what
Speaker 1: they were doing. And I'll just take it a step further.
Speaker 1: Two for the simple fact that when the bill was signed,
Speaker 1: it was signed in secret. Like Nick said, there was
Speaker 1: all white men surrounding Brian Kemp. And what I did know, too,
Speaker 1: is in the photo that they took, there's an image
Speaker 1: or painting behind them and it's actually of uh. I
Speaker 1: think it's the Hamilton's plantation, And that's so significant. So
Speaker 1: the simple fact that y'all are signing this modern day
Speaker 1: Jim Crow bill to restrict voter access, let's just call
Speaker 1: U spade a spade, and you've got this plantation, this
Speaker 1: image glorified image of a plantation where slaves were brutalized
Speaker 1: and murdered and everything else behind you if this was
Speaker 1: just something so special, So the subliminals around this whole
Speaker 1: situation are very telling as well. And also Lauren to
Speaker 1: Piggyback that no one wanted this, like here's none of
Speaker 1: if you talk to Georgia voters. Georgia voters were polled,
Speaker 1: none of them wanted changes to the elections UM and
Speaker 1: and there are a couple of things that just stand
Speaker 1: out in particular, like the overwhelming majority of both Republican
Speaker 1: and Democratic voters UH saw no need for a change
Speaker 1: to the law and in fact wanted more access where
Speaker 1: they could expand voting by mail, could expand earlier voting
Speaker 1: could expand drop off places. So these are all the
Speaker 1: things that have traditionally worked for the GOP that they
Speaker 1: have instead worked to cut back in an effort many
Speaker 1: argue UH to repress or suppress the black vote, particularly
Speaker 1: things like souls to the polls where for those who
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, church church leaders would hey, everybody
Speaker 1: who board the bus after service on Sunday and go
Speaker 1: and vote as as a group. You know, they made
Speaker 1: they made it a an activity that was that was
Speaker 1: fun and people were engaged in the political process. Well,
Speaker 1: they're they're cutting back on that. Some some of these
Speaker 1: things seems specifically targeted. Another that I found just really interesting,
Speaker 1: like why would you do that? Uh, They're making it
Speaker 1: harder for people to actually stand in line. Lauren, You're
Speaker 1: standing in all and and you it's Georgia, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's a little warm. I come to hand you a
Speaker 1: sandwich or a bottle of water. I am now breaking
Speaker 1: the law. It is illegal for me to give you
Speaker 1: water while standing in line, uh to vote? And or
Speaker 1: I can't. Also, I can't sit there here your your
Speaker 1: my i's like, hey, Nick called me a spot. My
Speaker 1: mother's like Nick called me a spot Till I get there.
Speaker 1: I can't then step out and let her step step
Speaker 1: into that spot. So you sit there? Yes, it seems
Speaker 1: almost punitive, like you, what was the what was the
Speaker 1: motivation the killer in this? Though they've also done this
Speaker 1: whole thing where now they can supersede the official in
Speaker 1: that position, so now has no say anymore. So now
Speaker 1: your secretary, your secretary who has that role, who was
Speaker 1: trained in that role? Uh? They to Raffensburger's credit, Uh,
Speaker 1: he really did run like the cleaner. He didn't want
Speaker 1: the election and go that way either. Let's make let's
Speaker 1: let's be clear, but what it was an attack on
Speaker 1: his professionalism to say that it did not go the
Speaker 1: way that it should have. So now they have enacted
Speaker 1: new legislation that will allow them to come in and
Speaker 1: supersede what had been officiated by the secretary. Yep, that's
Speaker 1: called spending Facebook, I hope, m hmm, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: And I and I think Nick to the question of
Speaker 1: what's the intention, I'll just say this, the intention is
Speaker 1: that the GEO Trump in a lot of ways. I
Speaker 1: know we all hate Trump, but Trump honestly pulled the
Speaker 1: covers back on a lot of things. And that's one
Speaker 1: thing I will say that I'm grateful for him, because
Speaker 1: those closeted racists, racists, those closeted racists that we're trying
Speaker 1: to hide, they've been brought to the forefront, the folks
Speaker 1: that really the GOP. In a sense, the GOP is
Speaker 1: finally showing their true colors, in terms of we don't
Speaker 1: really care about the people. We just want our people
Speaker 1: to stay in office so we can keep pushing our
Speaker 1: own agenda. So I hope that we're all understanding and
Speaker 1: really focusing on what's happening in Georgia specifically, because they're
Speaker 1: the first state to enact this legislation, I'm sure they're
Speaker 1: not going to be the last. I'm sure they're not
Speaker 1: going to be the last. I'll just end on this note.
Speaker 1: I just think that. I hope they're all paying attention
Speaker 1: to what's happening, because it's definitely it's history in the
Speaker 1: making for sure, and we definitely need we need action
Speaker 1: on the federal level because if every Because the truth is,
Speaker 1: there are even democratic states that could do a lot
Speaker 1: better California about expanding access to voting as well. There
Speaker 1: are places that are blue that could also do a
Speaker 1: little bit more about early voting, a little bit better
Speaker 1: about mail in voting, absentee voting. It would be great
Speaker 1: if we had a federal system that allowed everyone who's
Speaker 1: legally eligible to vote to be able to vote and
Speaker 1: not put these hurdles in their way, just as simple. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I don't know if California is one, though we're pretty
Speaker 1: wide open. I think we're more of the most open states.
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, Nick, I think some other
Speaker 1: states could do you are, indeed, I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: I would like everybody to expand and do even better
Speaker 1: like wherever we are, I feel like we could do
Speaker 1: even better with with it. You know, it is still easier.
Speaker 1: I think Lauren's easier for us in so many cases
Speaker 1: to get a driver's license than it is to register
Speaker 1: and vote. You know, it shouldn't be all these barriers, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, if Lauren can't make it, why can't she, Lauren?
Speaker 1: We can do almost everything else from our phone. You
Speaker 1: can bank from you trying to transfer funds? Why can't
Speaker 1: you register a vote from your phone? Right? No? I
Speaker 1: hear you for sure. So that's that's all I'm saying there. Uh,
Speaker 1: why don't we go ahead and and try to lift
Speaker 1: it a little bit because I think, um one to
Speaker 1: other topics that I want to make sure that we
Speaker 1: touch on. Um, I do kind of want to hit
Speaker 1: on how Virginia has ended the death penalty. You know
Speaker 1: that that's a switch for you know, a southern Virginia beach.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Virginia beach is wild. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: um college town. Uh so I'm sorry that's completely one
Speaker 1: off topic. Ye hey, that that's that's how it goes.
Speaker 1: That's like the death penalty ended sooner than expected in
Speaker 1: Virginia and for some not soon enough. What they have
Speaker 1: done is Virginia has decided that they are no longer
Speaker 1: going to do uh death penalty. And uh, this is
Speaker 1: one of those things that people um feel like it's
Speaker 1: um huge and and it is because uh, this is
Speaker 1: this is the governor uh in many ways saying that
Speaker 1: it should not be up to man to put man
Speaker 1: to death, that there has to be other ways that
Speaker 1: we can deal with our most violent offenders. Man man
Speaker 1: takes another man, A man takes another man's life for
Speaker 1: him to do that, he made the choice. He made
Speaker 1: the choice. The murderer made the choice. Sometimes it feels
Speaker 1: actually down, but the murderer made the choice. Uh. I
Speaker 1: used to think that I wasn't for the death penalty,
Speaker 1: but like for some ship, like when you sunk up
Speaker 1: a kid and you molest the kid. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to be able to relive that. I
Speaker 1: would rather know that you did. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to be able to lay in a sale for twenty
Speaker 1: five years and relive the thought that you molested that
Speaker 1: kid and you and the joy that you get out
Speaker 1: of or whatever your sick man concocted while you was doing.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to lay trying to enjoy that.
Speaker 1: I want you act immediately. Somebody seel to stay on death.
Speaker 1: Let me just some people on death rosh like three years,
Speaker 1: because that's the whole lifetime to some people. Death rowback
Speaker 1: and burning Laura open us up to some of those
Speaker 1: flame best because I know people will. Definitely, I've seen
Speaker 1: some of these comments. What were you saying, Lauren, No,
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm I'm kind of like flame. I
Speaker 1: have some mixed feelings about the death penalty. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, because I think when it's been um adversely
Speaker 1: geared towards you know, people of color, who are you know,
Speaker 1: those that are on death row. But in some ways
Speaker 1: I think that some crimes are very fitting for the
Speaker 1: death penalty, for sure. That's how I feel. Guff Ralph
Speaker 1: Northam signed the bill last Wednesday banning the death penalty,
Speaker 1: making Virginia the first of the old Confederate states to
Speaker 1: do so. Over the past four hundred years, Virginia has
Speaker 1: executed more prisoners than in other state. It is the
Speaker 1: second most prolific death penalty state of the modern era,
Speaker 1: only behind the Great State of You know, I had
Speaker 1: to get you, you know, I had to get you,
Speaker 1: miss T. T. J In because the topics were just
Speaker 1: heavy and we just need some knowledge today. So go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm everything seems to move really fast when
Speaker 1: it comes for the black community to pay for it um.
Speaker 1: And I think generally speaking, if you were remembered that
Speaker 1: you have to self motivate yourself constantly locally and you
Speaker 1: move further along because when you vote locally, that's where
Speaker 1: you see the first the first benefits for your vote
Speaker 1: or it's something you support, you have to become active
Speaker 1: and then you pass that on um. You know, the
Speaker 1: death penel to. Now that we're seeing all these shootings,
Speaker 1: of course they're gonna make it more attractive for these
Speaker 1: people to sit there at our expense, at our expense,
Speaker 1: and they're killing, you know, randomly. You know, it puts
Speaker 1: a notch in their bed posts. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: is fashionable to really express your hatred. As close as
Speaker 1: we get to putting some type of boundaries or assault weapons,
Speaker 1: you have a whole movement that now they want you
Speaker 1: to believe they sleep with their guns. They like their kids,
Speaker 1: but they love their guns. And it just gets more
Speaker 1: complicit the more you think about it. And I was
Speaker 1: listening to some young black men talk. They were like,
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble with this thing called God. I mean,
Speaker 1: how is he letting his plague stay over our heads?
Speaker 1: And the only words that I could give them is
Speaker 1: value yourself. Love yourself more than anybody can hate you.
Speaker 1: Never get caught up and what the fellas doing next
Speaker 1: to you. If you handle yourself like you about your business,
Speaker 1: that just makes them want to be you more. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: terminology nobody, but I mean you know everything about us
Speaker 1: is desired. You know what I mean? Um Uh. When
Speaker 1: somebody falls, they're looking for the black woman to kiss
Speaker 1: it and make it better. Everybody immolates the black woman,
Speaker 1: but they don't want any of the suffering that we
Speaker 1: go through. They just want to use us like an
Speaker 1: necessary and until we put the value back in ourselves.
Speaker 1: You know, at any level, love yourself, push yourself. Don't
Speaker 1: get caught up in generational curses or plax on people
Speaker 1: because you're lending yourself too much to negative energy. We
Speaker 1: just have to as as as a people as whatever
Speaker 1: you do every single day, push yourself. Always be about
Speaker 1: making yourself better and that doesn't have to come with
Speaker 1: great rewards. If you go and ask a question on
Speaker 1: your child's behalf, you have exercise being a proactive parent.
Speaker 1: You have to change the narrative and the simple is
Speaker 1: that I'm sure the folks in Atlanta if they're smart.
Speaker 1: They enough. Stacy had to know that there was gonna
Speaker 1: be backlash, you know, coolers and knew that there was
Speaker 1: going to be backlash. So you have to already have
Speaker 1: your soldiers in a in a in armor. They already
Speaker 1: have to be marching to a beat, you know. And
Speaker 1: that's not anything Act like you happy on your job.
Speaker 1: People will come for you just being happy, you know,
Speaker 1: pull up in something new and you didn't tell everybody
Speaker 1: in the office you were getting ready to do that.
Speaker 1: Let them doubt that of chill is going to a
Speaker 1: private school. It doesn't take a lot to make people angry.
Speaker 1: And in this preconceived notion of what you should just
Speaker 1: want or have, break out of that mode. You can
Speaker 1: have whatever you want, as long as you pay for
Speaker 1: what's seeing yourself at a level you can have it
Speaker 1: pushed through. I don't give a damn about a plague.
Speaker 1: We have to push through. And it says ugly for
Speaker 1: me having a very dark, full figured song, as it
Speaker 1: is for anybody. But all I can tell him is
Speaker 1: be about dressing up your resume and pushing forward. Let
Speaker 1: me just say this, miss t t Jan, you didn't
Speaker 1: you didn't dropped about a hundred gems and all of
Speaker 1: what you just talked about right now, And this is
Speaker 1: why we appreciate you so much. I just I didn't
Speaker 1: mean to interrupt you, but that was a myriad of
Speaker 1: gems that was just dropped. You know, it's I think
Speaker 1: it's it's all of us said, we're all looking a
Speaker 1: hope one. It's like, as soon as we nudge a
Speaker 1: little bit here, we come with somebody extremely stupid to
Speaker 1: make us look. I hope you want one number. But
Speaker 1: I thought that they do not get the scarriage. Be
Speaker 1: encourage and just keep pushing, keep pushing, and because they
Speaker 1: want us to feel like we're defeated. That's the reason
Speaker 1: they're scrambling. Because if they think they if they can
Speaker 1: create all this mass confusion, then they've gotten into our
Speaker 1: psychic to start letting us fight amongst ourselves and in
Speaker 1: our own brains. Whatever you're doing, keep doing. I'm not
Speaker 1: selling school. But if you go to school, go to
Speaker 1: school with a vengeance. If you're gonna go to a
Speaker 1: trade school, go to trade school with a vengeance. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna start a business, start a business with a vengeance.
Speaker 1: Quit wearing your money and invest your money. We can
Speaker 1: all do it. You know, it's not anything. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't come for money, but my portfolio looks really good.
Speaker 1: So get your knowledge. Keep pushing. That's what makes people,
Speaker 1: you know, respect you. They don't want to respect you,
Speaker 1: they really don't. They feel better. They don't want to
Speaker 1: own racism, but they like the works of it. Hm,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You're quite comfortable with racism,
Speaker 1: but they don't want to own it. There's nothing new about, uh,
Speaker 1: the police department turning on peaceful protesters. There's nothing new
Speaker 1: about that. We've all heard about not driving in certain
Speaker 1: places when it gets dark. This is absolutely nothing new.
Speaker 1: But now of a sudden because we say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: black lives matter. What it ain't talking about what you know,
Speaker 1: my life matters? Well you know what we mattered when
Speaker 1: you part us over on ships if everybody life mattered.
Speaker 1: And I just say that that was the only cruise
Speaker 1: I was ever on. That's the one that I was.
Speaker 1: But I'm the first tax forard that was like, no, yeah, missed,
Speaker 1: I hold you. That went all over we all here
Speaker 1: by run us over here on ship. Oh yeah okay, no, no,
Speaker 1: we were with you were absolutely miss thank thank you
Speaker 1: so much. We miss Jam. We appreciate you as always.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on here and dropping gems. Thank you, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you so much that indeed, you know, guys, we
Speaker 1: know today's show was a lot, but I think it's
Speaker 1: just reflecting everything that we're all kind of carrying, you know,
Speaker 1: um t J And just said something. You're gonna do
Speaker 1: something doing with your whole heart. Flame. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to tell your business because you told a little bit
Speaker 1: of it, but I just want to say, and I
Speaker 1: hope that this is where where you know, this is
Speaker 1: why I constantly have hope because I'm so excited about
Speaker 1: the opportunity that one of your children may have and
Speaker 1: and it's just it just lets me know that, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a whole world out there that uh, this young
Speaker 1: promise and talent can literally be that that beacon of change,
Speaker 1: you know. So those are the times when you have
Speaker 1: to sit back and say, you know what, there is
Speaker 1: a light somewhere in all of this darkness right now.
Speaker 1: And I'll just say this, Laurie's about to step out
Speaker 1: and Lauren's about to step in. We're not gonna say
Speaker 1: nothing about that. So Flame, let's just say thank you
Speaker 1: and let that go. Okay, you don't want to do
Speaker 1: it for that documents first, so talk to before we're
Speaker 1: going anywhere Flame when you got coming up, I'm going
Speaker 1: to see a familiarly with some point if I'm changing
Speaker 1: from this language, it's only about like an I want
Speaker 1: to have home and take a shower and just screw
Speaker 1: some I'm saying, y'all feature the outfit later. Um. Other
Speaker 1: than that, listen, we're gonna try to do where we
Speaker 1: work out with with another show. But y'all quality and
Speaker 1: hit hold on enough. But he should rebooking that Gmail
Speaker 1: because we've taken them as they come respectfully. Respectfully is
Speaker 1: the word respectful as the word today We given five
Speaker 1: on that one. Well, thank everybody. I want to thank
Speaker 1: everybody for listening at home or on the go. And
Speaker 1: I want to remind you that if you like something
Speaker 1: you heard today, to definitely comment uh and and like
Speaker 1: and share it because it helps others to find, laugh
Speaker 1: and learn. And at the end of the day, we
Speaker 1: say this all the time, but it really is true.
Speaker 1: We are not trying to get anybody to change their mind.
Speaker 1: We're simply just trying to get you guys to use
Speaker 1: your mind. Because wi flame. Because if you gotta have
Speaker 1: a man, use the we feel like I feel it
Speaker 1: right about that growing baby grew it. Because your choice
Speaker 1: is always yours. Your choice is always yours, but you
Speaker 1: have to be comfortable with the choice that you make,
Speaker 1: not that somebody else make for you. Because I'm tall, right,
Speaker 1: anybody will tell me what can do if that's what's
Speaker 1: wrong with me now, because I'm gonna do what the
Speaker 1: want to do and I want to do, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Nick. Where can everybody find you? Yes?
Speaker 1: Where can everybody find you? Looking forward to seeing soon? Friends? Uh?
Speaker 1: All that and we thank you so much? And yeah,
Speaker 1: come on when we tell you all that because I'm
Speaker 1: doing now. I'm trying, you see me trying to move
Speaker 1: forward and wrap it up. I'm trying to be as
Speaker 1: discreet as possible. Damn Okay, lord, and you did fantastic
Speaker 1: galls are thinking so much for helming the ship. You
Speaker 1: can find me at Nick Smith News on Instagram and Twitter.
Speaker 1: And yes, I heard everybody sounding off about me in
Speaker 1: Nashville this weekend, so yes, I wasn't a couple of
Speaker 1: wen't gonna bring that up, but anyway, we'll talk offline
Speaker 1: about that one. I am Lauren Hogan on YouTube and
Speaker 1: I am Lauren Armani h on Instagram. As always, we
Speaker 1: thank you guys for tuning in and we will see
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