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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Higheartradioca.

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Speaker 2: Cash shows in Katie Loves.

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Speaker 3: Hi Germo, Hi, Katie lows, You're never gonna believe this.

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Speaker 4: What I just if?

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Speaker 3: I sound insane? I just got a filling redone. Do

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Speaker 3: you have cavities?

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Speaker 4: I do have a lot of cavities.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I don't because I'm perfect and I love dentists.

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Speaker 3: I go every three Mensu'm so obsessed with flossing and

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Speaker 3: liistenering the whole fucking thing. But I have a couple

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Speaker 3: of fillings and they're replacing them because it turns out

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Speaker 3: they're like twenty five years old or something like that,

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Speaker 3: and they have to just take out the old ones

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Speaker 3: and put in new ones. That is my day today.

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Speaker 3: And now we are we talking about a very specific

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Speaker 3: episode of Scan special episode A lot with the inside

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Speaker 3: of my mouth.

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Speaker 4: Yes, with mowlers and by cuspits and all sorts of teeth.

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Speaker 3: Also, who the hell, guys, this episode is wild. We

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Speaker 3: are talking about the episode that caused the next ten

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Speaker 3: years of my life for me to walk around on

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Speaker 3: the street and for Scandal fans come up to me

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Speaker 3: and be like, oh, you still got your teeth. Let

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Speaker 3: me look intide you.

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Speaker 4: Literally, yes, I had people come up to me and

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Speaker 4: be like can you lick me? Like I've literally had

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Speaker 4: people want to take a picture with me licking them. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because of this episode.

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Speaker 3: And that was so pre covid.

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Speaker 4: It was super pre covid.

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Speaker 3: I had just so many people for years just be like,

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Speaker 3: can I check inside your mouth? You still have all

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Speaker 3: your teeth? And I'm like, this is getting weird, is

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Speaker 3: what It's over.

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Speaker 4: Your mouth and your mouth was jacked up and you

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Speaker 4: have four teeth, and you were like, yeah, here you go.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: It was like, this is what's given me my sort

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Speaker 3: of obsession with the dentist. To be compliant, I feel like.

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Speaker 4: You were obsessed with the dentist probably before, way before

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Speaker 4: this episode.

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Speaker 3: Whatever I'm covered for to get my teeth cleaning, I

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Speaker 3: think you get it once every six months or something.

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Speaker 3: I pay extra one hundred and twenty five dollars to

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Speaker 3: go every three months because because so many strangers be

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Speaker 3: looking all up inside my mouth.

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Speaker 4: That's why there you go. I am mad at you.

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Speaker 4: I am mad at you.

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Speaker 3: And today we have a very special guest who's your friend.

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Speaker 4: This person is just listen. I discovered her about a

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Speaker 4: year ago. I discovered her talent in front of the

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Speaker 4: camera about a year ago. But I've known her for

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Speaker 4: many years, and she was in the industry but in

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Speaker 4: a whole, completely different role. And now she's just she's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, she's so famous, and she's like the young guest

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Speaker 3: guest we've ever had, and maybe the youngest person I've

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Speaker 3: ticker Talker.

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Speaker 4: Which is she's a genius like content creators.

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Speaker 3: Genius content creator is literally doing SNL level, if not better,

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Speaker 3: sketch work her social media channels. I don't even that's

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Speaker 3: a compliment, right, I feel so older?

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, me too. Listening great, but also she is

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Speaker 4: not only that she's the hugest Scandal fan. She knows

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Speaker 4: the show I feel like better than you and.

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Speaker 3: I I completely agree. Who better to have on than

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Speaker 3: to talk about one of the harder episodes that you

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Speaker 3: and I ever had to shoot than someone that knows

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Speaker 3: the show better than us inside and out Because she

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Speaker 3: is a true to her core gladiator fan, a gladiator gladiator,

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Speaker 3: and without further ado, we have the one, the only the.

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Speaker 4: Only Supria Bright.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean such a fan.

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Speaker 3: I'm such a fan. Also, are you fought like you're

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Speaker 3: so bloody talented? But also are you five? And were

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Speaker 3: you allowed to be watching Scandal when it was on?

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Speaker 3: Why were you not in bed? What the hell?

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Speaker 2: I am seven years old? No, I was in college

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Speaker 2: during this Scandal trime.

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Speaker 3: Wow you are.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start telling people I'm like, twenty's totally.

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Speaker 3: Please, so great. I have no idea, but I just

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Speaker 3: did the craziest deep dive of like all of your

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Speaker 3: genius sketches, Like, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Aren't they fucking amazing? There? My god, listen, I just

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Speaker 4: I've known Sabrina for a long time. Let's just start

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Speaker 4: by also saying she she used to work at Jill

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Speaker 4: McGrath's office, working for Jill McGrath before she was in

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Speaker 3: Wait are you out? Get the fuck out of here. Okay,

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Speaker 3: hold on a second. You're an influencer, you're a talent,

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Speaker 3: you're all those and creator. You are cool. We are not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but also listen, I started watching her videos about

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Speaker 4: a year ago, I want to say, or even less

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Speaker 4: than that, and now I am addicted. When you post

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Speaker 4: on Instagram. I get so excited. They're so addictive and infectious,

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Speaker 4: and that character you play is just the dopest Galchy's

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Speaker 4: You're so good at what you do.

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Speaker 2: You guys are too much. I also just like really

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Speaker 2: need it to be said, like I really just wish

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Speaker 2: I had a mirror and like a camera and a

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Speaker 2: time machine that I could go to myself. In college

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Speaker 2: when I used to like bootleg Scandal to it that

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Speaker 2: I would stay up, I'm not kidding someone. It was

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Speaker 2: like a problem. I was staying up to four in

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Speaker 2: the morning. I couldn't get myself to go to sleep

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Speaker 2: because I was so intensely watching it, so obsessed, talked

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Speaker 2: about until everyone who would listen to me, And if

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Speaker 2: I could show you guys saying that about me.

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Speaker 3: I love that And for listeners, hold on a second,

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Speaker 3: you so that people don't know who Jill McGrath is. Explain,

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Speaker 3: explore backtrack, explain to me how you guys originally know

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Speaker 3: each other, because it was Gearmo's idea that was like

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Speaker 3: Sabrina who has pulse of all the people like Scandal,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, what we need to get her on

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Speaker 4: She also has a deeper connection to the show Scandal

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Speaker 3: And we'll tell me why you first met each other

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Speaker 3: and who Jill is.

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Speaker 2: So the first connection that we're talking about right now

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Speaker 2: is that when I graduated college, a time in which

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Speaker 2: I was at my scandal heights of obsession, an intensity,

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Speaker 2: you could call it, like a mental breakdown. Ways, I

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Speaker 2: graduated college. A month later I started working for Jill

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Speaker 2: in the interviewing situation, and she was like, yes, like,

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Speaker 2: we have really incredible clients. Did a duck your moodias

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Speaker 2: And I went, I'm sorry, huk, Yeah, I know who

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Speaker 2: for two years I assisted Jill and all of her

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Speaker 3: Jill's a very fancy Hollywood manager.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jill is my manager. And now she's Sabrina's manager

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Speaker 4: as well. Full circle.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that I would not have believed if you

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Speaker 3: At that time, How did that come to pass? Like,

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Speaker 2: Manifestation is I think a very real thing. I certainly

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Speaker 2: to be a possibility, But she and I just of

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Speaker 2: course stayed in it as great friends and had a

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Speaker 2: mentor mentee relationship even after I left her desk for

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Speaker 2: that thing where it's like your ex boss who is

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Speaker 2: was always learning from, even as I moved away from

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Speaker 2: and so much of what I do and how I've

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Speaker 2: learned is from her. So it kind of it's been

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Speaker 4: But also, Sabrina, we can both agree that Jill is

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Speaker 4: a hard ass. Jill is no joke. She doesn't just

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Speaker 4: if she chose you to be your manager, she believes

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Speaker 4: auditioning for Jill and I've been with her for over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's pretty scary, Like, I love her. I've hung

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Speaker 3: her Cadie I did. Oh my god. I absolutely love her.

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Speaker 3: She's so hardcore. Also, nothing is more appropriate for this

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Speaker 3: I just had a cavity redone. I am not We

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Speaker 3: are talking about the episode where Quinn got her teeth

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Speaker 3: pulled out by Huck and I literally, I am not kidding.

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Speaker 3: We didn't know we were going to do this episode today.

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Speaker 3: This disappointment has been in the books four weeks. This

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Speaker 4: This just come over to my house. I still have

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Speaker 4: the path Sanda, you mus have done it for free. Listen, Sabrina.

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Speaker 4: Shonda Rhymes gave me as a gift when we wrapped

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Speaker 3: And guess what I got. Guess what I got?

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Speaker 4: What did you get?

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Speaker 3: It Pop's department. When we wrapped this, this episode almost

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Speaker 3: being me. I was supposed to be naked. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: was supposed to be naked, and I wore a duck.

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Speaker 3: They just duct taped my boobs and we called it

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Speaker 3: it saved in a box like with all my scandal memorabilia.

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Speaker 2: Just love that baby duct taped directly on your skin.

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Speaker 3: No, I had like a nude band do bra and

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Speaker 3: then like things around it. But I don't remember what

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Speaker 2: I was like Katie's naked. I did not remember this.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what a commitment to the craft.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Sabrina.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Then when you had the thing in your mouth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that mouth thing opener, that metal mouth opener.

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Speaker 2: This was crazy.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you one of the questions. And

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Speaker 3: then were getting this episode. Wait, so we're gonna can

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Speaker 3: you just tell our listeners how did you get into

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Speaker 3: doing what you do? And why are you so so

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Speaker 3: huge on all the socials? Like how is this happening?

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Speaker 2: Orchard? Jill always was like trying to write and make things.

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Speaker 2: That was always the plan was to make things and perform.

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Speaker 2: I just wasn't sure how I was going to do it.

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Speaker 2: When I left Jill, I was a writer's assistant, and

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Speaker 2: I was still continuing to work in the television industry

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Speaker 2: in the more formal way, and then in COVID. I

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Speaker 2: I never met Germo up close. I Katie we definitely

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into this episode really quick. It's episode

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Speaker 4: It was written by Chris van Duson and it was

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Cyrus has to deal with his own crisis and

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Speaker 3: Guys, this episode, Yes, I literally thought that Quinn was

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Speaker 2: This was it.

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Speaker 3: This was the one where I was like, I'm done.

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Speaker 3: Everybody hates me. Quinn is over. Goodbye job, goodbye financial security.

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Speaker 4: Goodbye, like not gonna happen. We were always afraid of

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Speaker 3: Was so odd. Did you enjoy watching it back? Giermo

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Speaker 3: and Sabrina, What did you guys think watching those fucking

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Speaker 2: Course remembered that Huck gets crazy, but I did not

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, zero, like that is even happening. I was

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely scripted. Definitely definitely.

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Speaker 2: This is?

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Speaker 4: This is the first episode two that they had to

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Speaker 4: put a major like content warning before the episode starts. Oh,

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Speaker 4: and so that tells you right there how much we

442
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Speaker 4: pushed the limits on this one. I mean it starts

443
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Speaker 4: off with me with the pliers and cleaning them with

444
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Speaker 4: a you know, with a cotton ball with alcohol and

445
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Speaker 4: just getting ready to dig into your mouth.

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Speaker 2: Three. And we we know Quinn at this point, so

447
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Speaker 2: it's not like seeing the typical victim.

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Speaker 3: So it's really like intense, you know, barely watch it

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Speaker 3: this time around. First of all, I was like, oh

450
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Speaker 3: my god, Katie, slow it down with your acting.

451
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Speaker 4: Just no, you were so good. What are you talking about?

452
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Speaker 3: You're your own worst critic. I'm like, oh my god.

453
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Speaker 3: Clearly it got to my head that I was like,

454
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Speaker 3: I only have my eyes to act because my mouth

455
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Speaker 3: is covered with duct tape. So let's make sure that

456
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Speaker 3: all my m and my like, my eyes are just

457
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Speaker 3: doing the craziest shit you were. I washiking the shit

458
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Speaker 3: out of those scenes. It was absolutely insane. But I

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Speaker 3: just now that I know, I feel I think similar

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Speaker 3: to you Subrina. It's like, now I know we're Quinn

461
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Speaker 3: huck end Up. I just couldn't believe he did that

462
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Speaker 3: to her.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was super emotional too. I mean even Huck

464
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: gets emotional in the scene when he's like, I've never

465
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Speaker 4: done this to a family member or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Right, he says, I love you, I've ever done this

467
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Speaker 3: to someone I love.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you not only betrayed me, you betrayed Olivia

469
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Speaker 4: as well. And I think that's what you know. He

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Speaker 4: was like, Okay, we have to discipline her and set

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Speaker 4: her right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it shows his intense loyalty live no matter how

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Speaker 2: close they had gotten nothing, He's the loyal service.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yep.

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Speaker 3: First of all, for listeners, Gimo Diaz, greatest, most giving.

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Speaker 3: This is what I do remember. I remember Gearma being

477
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Speaker 3: so kind. I was super freaked out to shoot these seas.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, like, I felt very vulnerable. I

479
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: was like, first of all, naked on a set pretty

480
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Speaker 3: much like in a tiny bikini covered with duct tape,

481
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: which is like never great. And then and then also

482
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Speaker 3: like in it kind is never read not great. And

483
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Speaker 3: then I just remember being like I'm scared to do this.

484
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Speaker 3: It just felt really scary and Garmo, I just I

485
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Speaker 3: have flashes of memory of you being like, if you

486
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Speaker 3: want to like you just checking in with me between

487
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Speaker 3: every take? Are you okay? Do you need anything? I'm

488
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Speaker 3: here with you, Like you were such a caretaker, even

489
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Speaker 3: though you were such a shit like your face. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 3: it was so crazy. I remember that, and I remember

491
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Speaker 3: that I did this stupid thing actresses listening. This shit

492
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Speaker 3: is so dumb, it doesn't work. Don't do it.

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Speaker 4: Ever.

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Speaker 3: I remember doing some juice cleanse the four days leading

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Speaker 3: up to it. This was when juice cleanses were really

496
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Speaker 3: big fifteen years ago. People would do it. Yeah, I

497
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Speaker 3: remember doing that like forty work because I was like

498
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Speaker 3: terrified that I had to be like in ended up

499
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Speaker 3: seeing nothing, so it was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but no you see you see you looking super

501
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Speaker 4: snatched and hot when you're in the towel after Charlie

502
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Speaker 4: comes to you to save you.

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Speaker 3: I could have eaten the whole could have eaten the

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Speaker 3: whole week.

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Speaker 4: You see your shoulders, you see your back. Yeah, no,

506
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Speaker 4: you look hot.

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Speaker 2: You were a woman in distressed. There's nothing hotter.

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Speaker 3: That's so true. It was horrible, and I remember, oh

509
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Speaker 3: my god, I'm never gonna use cleans again. I'm so tired,

510
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: like I have no energy, Like what a dumb rookie

511
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Speaker 3: actor choice. That is just not necessarily.

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Speaker 4: It's Tens.

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Speaker 3: It's not your fault, if not my fault, it was Tens, Katie.

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Speaker 4: I remember, speaking of diets and all that stuff. I

515
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Speaker 4: remember you on our lunch break having an amazing looking

516
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Speaker 4: salad and a big old thing of tupp aware and

517
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Speaker 4: it had all these fancy lettuces and you just you

518
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 4: dressed it with just olive oil and lemon, and you

519
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: had turkey chopped up turkey in there. So you were

520
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: super on that. Like I'm eating.

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Speaker 3: Healthy, really fat all the time.

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Speaker 4: I love that shit too, And my mouth is watering

523
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: right now thinking about it because it looked it looks

524
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: so good. Meanwhile, I was probably like eating a hot

525
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Speaker 4: dog next to you or something, or a Mexican.

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Speaker 3: Bowl Sabrina, what's your favorite lunch right now? To get

527
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: back to scandal, I think my sister I saw Ghiaramo recently.

528
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: I think my sister said this to Gueramo. But I, okay,

529
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Speaker 3: there's something else about my scandal in ternsh of experience

530
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Speaker 3: that does have to do with food.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: All we're on the topic that is really important to me,

533
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Speaker 2: which is that, of course the experience of being on

534
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: Scandal was so amazing, but there was something else that

535
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: was really amazing about it, which was that I have

536
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Speaker 2: the best cookie I've ever had in my life that

537
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Speaker 2: I to this day nothing has compared, and I have

538
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: never stopped thinking about it. And I talked to a

539
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: lot of people in my life about it, and I

540
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: think that my mom was like concerned and called my sister.

541
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Speaker 2: I was like, I, this internship is going well, but

542
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Speaker 2: she keeps talking about like the cookies.

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00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: Wait, wait was the craft services going around with like

544
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Speaker 3: warm cookies in the afternoon?

545
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Speaker 2: You know how there was like a cafe on the law.

546
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Speaker 3: I love that cafe.

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00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: I used to get the kale salad, caesar salad and

548
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: this cookie and it was like big and had sea

549
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Speaker 2: salt on top.

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Speaker 3: Oh. I used to get that cookie too, did chocolate chip?

551
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: My mouth is a guyser waterfall.

552
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: And what I'm talking about, well, I wasn't the best

553
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: cookie in the world. And then I remember one time

554
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Speaker 2: at the first production meeting where I was there, they

555
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: had all these cookies and I was like, I need

556
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: to eat one, and then I ate one, and then

557
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: the production meeting was going on, and I kept going

558
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Speaker 2: up and getting more.

559
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Speaker 3: They were really oversized, right in a plastic individual bag.

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00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: They were oversized chocolate chip cookies, and they had sea

561
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Speaker 3: salt on them. But I think they also have an

562
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: oatmeal option. Am I making this up? I think they

563
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: had like another option too.

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Speaker 4: But Katie, do you think we went to Sunset Gower

565
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: this afternoon, me and you they would let us in

566
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Speaker 4: to go to the commissary and get that cookie. Probably not,

567
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: they'd be like, get the fuck out of here.

568
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Speaker 2: Maybe we go when we make the TikTok.

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. When I was in La recently, I was

571
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Speaker 2: right across the street and I had the thought, I said,

572
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: what if I just walked in there right now and

573
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: asked if they still have this cookie? But maybe we

574
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Speaker 2: all go to the cafe and we get the sal

575
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Speaker 2: and the cookie and then we make a TikTok.

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Speaker 4: That would be first. We have to get into the lot. First,

577
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Speaker 4: we have to get past security.

578
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: We get we greenlight, We get greenlight for a new

579
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: project that films at Sunset Gower.

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00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, just to get the cookie, just for the

581
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: exactly what is happening. I'm so hungry for this and

582
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: I am so excited and I can't wait for this

583
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: to happen. Gladiators, you don't want to miss it at

584
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: all of the Sabrina TikTok Social Medias any time of

585
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Speaker 3: the episode. Fave highlight Carrie Washington School of Acting Moments

586
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Speaker 3: of the Week. What were your highlight moments of this

587
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 3: episode of People's Performances.

588
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: One of my Carrie Washington highlight moments is when she

589
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 4: speaks Chinese on the phone. I full on cracked up

590
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 4: and was like, this girl can do anything anything, Like

591
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: she's full on speaking to Chinese.

592
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: Because she's talking to right, I was listening. They're trying

593
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: to get Candy Alexander, who they're from Command. They're trying

594
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: to get him her away from Rowan, and so they're

595
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: trying to get her to Hong Kong with like fake

596
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: social security, fake passports, like all this shit, and Carrie

597
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 3: is just like on the phone with Hong Kong like

598
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Speaker 3: I'm sending my mom. I thought, casual, just so casual.

599
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: What about you, Sabrina.

600
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Speaker 2: I it's so hard because so I haven't watched Scandal

601
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: in a really long time. So to me, with every performance,

602
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: I was like tweaking out because it was exciting to

603
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: see all my friends again. I will say I was

604
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: really excited to see Kelly McCreary because, oh my I

605
00:29:54,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: again my Grays coming of age was posted Scandal. So

606
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: now I'm in this place where I was like watching

607
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: Scandal and then when I watched Grace and I'd be like,

608
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: oh my god, both of Meredith's parents are from Scandal.

609
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Not that's right, people, it's the opposite. It's no, They're

610
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: from Grays. And then they went to Scandal. So to me,

611
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: just see one of those switcheroos, it was freaky and excite.

612
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: She kill She's only in it for a short minute

613
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: in this episode, but my god, she's so good. She's

614
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: such a star. She just comes in. It's of course

615
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: they just plucked her out of Scandal and placed her

616
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Speaker 3: as a lead on Gray's Anatomy.

617
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Speaker 4: That's and she has that Scandal pace down too, like

618
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Speaker 4: she's she has a super spy like chick.

619
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Speaker 3: I was obsessed with Paul Aedelstein's opening models to Sally

620
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: about you need to switch to pro choice. He just

621
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: comes in so huge in his choices and his commitment

622
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Speaker 3: that it's just fuck, He's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: There were two others, Katie. I feel like that scene

624
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Speaker 4: in the safe room where we're all live is on

625
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: the floor, she's catatizhed, like she's going through it because

626
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: her mother, she thought her mother was dead. And then

627
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 4: the pace is so quick and so perfect. It's Abby,

628
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: it's Harrison, it's Scott Foley and myself, and then we

629
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Speaker 4: grab by and throw her on the table and then

630
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Speaker 4: we have to dig that chip out of her neck.

631
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and somebody says yeah, somebody says it's gonna hurt,

632
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: and she says do it, and they just shove like

633
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Speaker 4: something in her mouth, and then we just cut her

634
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Speaker 4: neck and.

635
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Speaker 2: Pull out the It's so fun to have those moments

636
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: where you're like relive it because we in so many ways,

637
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: hug and Jake are mysteries emotionally, but then in moments

638
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: like that where they look at each other and they're like,

639
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: we both know what to do because we were traumatized

640
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: by this training and they're so on the same page.

641
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: It's so interesting when we see like that kind of

642
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: weird emotional connection.

643
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Speaker 4: But that's so true. That's such a good point, yeah, true,

644
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 4: and then the other one really quickly Katie is James

645
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 4: and Cyrus when Cyrul says, like you slept with him

646
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: in our house. Oh, I thought that scene was stellar,

647
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: So proa scene.

648
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: Dan Bugatinski's acting. It's for you guys listening. What goes

649
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: on is Cyrus is trying to blackmail Daniel doug Daniel Douglas, guys.

650
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Speaker 3: This is where my lip is not working. He's trying

651
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: to fucking and have something on him, and so they

652
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: he sends in James to like. Once they figure out

653
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: that he's gay and he doesn't like, they keep trying

654
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 3: to send women into Daniel Douglas to flirt with him

655
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Speaker 3: and get him to cheat on Sally Langston and take

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Speaker 3: photos of it so they can blackmail him and get

657
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: Sally Langson off the ticket and get her out of

658
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: their hair. And then they realize Daniel Douglas doesn't like chicks,

659
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: he likes dudes, and so they send in James even

660
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: though Cyrus is married to him. And the scene that's

661
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: just absolute fire is when it finally comes out where

662
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: James is like, you used me like you you used

663
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: me as like a whore or whatever. He says, I'm

664
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: trying to even remember what he said, and it's back.

665
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: And forth with James and Cyrus is so properful because with.

666
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: The laptop he shows I wanted divorce. I want a divorce.

667
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: I wanted divorce. I want a divorce. I want a divorce.

668
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was gonna say it breaks down

669
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: after that in front of Millie. I'm trying to again, please.

670
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Season three, I feel like at this point we had

671
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: such like a slow burn with Cyrus of showing his humanity.

672
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: So I feel like season three it was the fact

673
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: that he's like crying and we're seeing the actual impact

674
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: that his actions have on him emotionally. It's like we

675
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: don't see that much of that from him at first

676
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: because they keep him as such like a cold monster.

677
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: That's so true. That's so true. Yeah, I feel like.

678
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: At the time it was especially jarring and so sad,

679
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: and I feel like also just touches on the theme

680
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: of do I want to be a real person like

681
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: the jam and the Vermont thing or want the political power?

682
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: And here Cyrus, we know him as the person who

683
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: political power is everything to him, but in this moment,

684
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: it's like we see that.

685
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: Crap, and then that that fractures quickly because then James

686
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: is like, I'm taking my daughter and I'm leaving you.

687
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: But then Cyrus. You see that monster come out of

688
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: Cyrus again, and he's good luck because I have photos

689
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 4: of you having sex with homeboy. Go ahead and try

690
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: to take my daughter away, because I'll bring those out

691
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 4: and that's not gonna be good. So yeah, you see him,

692
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 4: you see the monster and then the his soft spot

693
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 4: for his husband, which is his weakness. And yeah, it's

694
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: so interesting, it's so good every I feel like.

695
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: That's a theme in all of the characters, is like

696
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: the idea of the political power versus being a human.

697
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: But I feel like Cyrus, that's like his main Oh yeah,

698
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: he's always so impactful.

699
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and in Olivia Pope, they do the same things.

700
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: Are we gladiators or are we people? And it's like

701
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: a very similar thing. Oh my god. I love breaking

702
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: down this episode with you, Sabrina. You have such great

703
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: these characters better than we do. Like we will be

704
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: back with more after the break. Why were you so

705
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: obsessed with scandal? Are you like a TV junkie and

706
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: you always have a show? Okay, great, I'm great.

707
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: Junkie, but I also the whole Shonda's whole way of

708
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: putting a show together, and the really intense love triangle

709
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: in the middle, and the ways that, you know, the

710
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: casting choices that I feel like our thing in all

711
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: of her shows, especially like the big thory like How

712
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: to Go with Murder, Scandalut Grace, where like you meet

713
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: a character and you it's not until seasons later that

714
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: you have a different perspective of them. Like just all

715
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: of those things that to me are just like the

716
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: height of television entertainment. Along with the fact that obviously

717
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 2: the writing and the craft of it is so gorgeous

718
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: and incredible too. I just really had never seen anything

719
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: like it, and it just really influenced me to want

720
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: to be a Shonda one day and be the type

721
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: of person who has a certain type of television I've

722
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: created that I continue to repete in different ways.

723
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 4: And you're doing that now. Use the character that you

724
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: create on your own vignettes on your videos. It's such

725
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 4: a special, quirky just outside of the box of it's

726
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: just you've created these wonderful this wonderful character. So you're

727
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: on your way.

728
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: There were you Team Jake or team fits.

729
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: So I was definitely much more in the It's hard because,

730
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: like I hard, it's so hard for me, like Big

731
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: Aiden Carrie, Like I feel like, ultimately, if I really

732
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: had to pick, it would be Aiden, because even though

733
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: I loved the Big Like storyline, I'm like, Aiden is

734
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: so the best.

735
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 4: But I hear you, I hear you.

736
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: It's harder with this one because I I love that

737
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: Jake is such an underdog. I love their connection more

738
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 2: in ways, and I almost loved how it was less

739
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: about the work and more about stripped down just their connection.

740
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

741
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: There were so many things about when Jake was coming

742
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: in the scene. I was in the moment go with Jake. Yeah,

743
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: they had physics, really done everything with it. I was okay,

744
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: pay for that, not to let go. But I definitely

745
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: it's a hard one.

746
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 4: It's a hard one, really hard one.

747
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: And I love a love triangle, Oh my god, I.

748
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: Love a love triangle too. And poor ScOTF Foley has

749
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: had the whole career of that. I feel like that

750
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 3: was him on Felicity too, wasn't he just like oh yes,

751
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 3: it was him and Scott Speedman and Kerrie Russell. Seven

752
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 3: years I.

753
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: Think interesting, he's so good at that.

754
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: No cookies for those guys. No cookies because they were

755
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: constantly naked, so they those guys barely eight on set,

756
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: like they were always starving themselves.

757
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Guirmo could do whatever we wanted. It

758
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: was the best. Are there anything? Are you into horror, Sabrina?

759
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: I love?

760
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: I know that's GMO's pride and joy. I am into it.

761
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: I would I couldn't. I feel we're saying around Girmo

762
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: because I know it's like he's a scholar.

763
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 4: Don't do it, don't deal it, don't do it, don't

764
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: make me.

765
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: Don't say but I I love like a good thriller,

766
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: Like I definitely am into it. But I wouldn't say

767
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 2: it like a horror junkie.

768
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 3: Okay me, I hate them kidding.

769
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was bummed out that this episode. I looked

770
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: up everyone there. There's a couple of film films that

771
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: are our wonderful producer found it. Jake Coleman was in

772
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: a movie called The Land leading Paul Edelstein was in

773
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 4: the menu. I looked those films up, and they're not

774
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 4: true like horror films. They were like eh, But then

775
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 4: I thought to myself, Yo, this episode is a horror film,

776
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: and I thought that that made me so happy, you

777
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

778
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: I was like, you, I loved shooting it. You loved

779
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: I remember, I loved it.

780
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 4: I love being insane on the show.

781
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: Anything on Scandal happened where Hawk is crossing crazy shit

782
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 3: and doing things that most actors would not be comfortable with.

783
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: In that space, Girma was.

784
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 4: I was into it, chomping at the bit for sure.

785
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 3: I always felt uncomfortable, like in later seasons, they're giving

786
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: me like a face rake to like murder this girl.

787
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: And then I'm like.

788
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't like I like the

789
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: walk and talk part, sitting in an investigation table, I know,

790
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: like even the gun shooting, which I is the gun shooting.

791
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: The Yeah, even now, I was uncomfortable. I was like,

792
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: I am this is like I don't know what I'm.

793
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 2: In And it's so funny because Germo as a human

794
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: being is just a sweet little puppy, the sweet I

795
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: was with recently and when we left we were just like,

796
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: how someone so nice and amazing and something is so

797
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: funny to me?

798
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 4: Right drill people. But I feel like I liked it

799
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 4: a little too much. I had too much fun, I

800
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 4: think doing it. We had one director, Sabrina that would

801
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: come up to me. I remember a few times we

802
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: were doing an episode and he kept coming up to

803
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 4: me and he would say, you're too maniacal. Why are

804
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 4: you so maniacal?

805
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: You're trying And I was like, Okay, you're like sorry,

806
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: I'm literally having the best time in my life taking

807
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: out Katie's teeth.

808
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: I'm not, but because I love this. That's why I'm Anichail.

809
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: I love doing this. I'm living my horror story dreams

810
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: for near most six degrees of horror. I don't know

811
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: if it's a true horror movie either, but Paul It'll

812
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 3: find in the menu is fucking awesome. I loved that movie.

813
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: He's incredible. Oh my god.

814
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: But it's not a horror film, right, It's not a consider,

815
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 2: I think because it's more thrillery.

816
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 3: Gotcha, Gee, can you please watch it and we can

817
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: report back.

818
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: On you to watch it. I'm going to watch it.

819
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: Yes, all is amazing. Okay. Was there eating in this episode?

820
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 4: Maya Pope eats a grape in a wide shot when

821
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: Olivia brings her breakfast in a bag. That's the only eating.

822
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: All the actors are only eating grapes. It's seasus.

823
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: It's like, Mom, I got you breakfast, and she's.

824
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 3: Just cutting up a grape into eight sections.

825
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 4: Yes, and we see her eating. We see her eat

826
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 4: it in the wide shot, and then when they're close up,

827
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 4: she's just holding the grape while she's talking. I'm like,

828
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: put it in your mouth, eat it. Oh, it's a

829
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: delicious That ripe looks delicious. But other than that, there

830
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: was no eating in this episode. But I remember you

831
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: eating that salad, Katie, and that made me really excited

832
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: being off set if camera.

833
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: I thought they did a really good job of like

834
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: when you rip off the duct tape of my mouth

835
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: and stuff like blood comes out and stuff. I don't

836
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: remember them putting like a blood pellet in there. I

837
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: don't remember doing any of that.

838
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 4: I don't remember that stuff either. Yeah, I don remember that.

839
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 4: But I remember having to throw you up against the

840
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: wall and it was all very much choreographed. We had

841
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: because we were doing all this physical stuff and we

842
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: were in this small space. It was on set, and

843
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: we were on set Hucks. This is Huck's apartment, right, yeah,

844
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 4: where he takes you over.

845
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: No it's Quinn's apartment.

846
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: It's Quinn's apartment, and they built it on set, remember,

847
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 4: and we.

848
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: Built it on that Yeah. And what I remember is

849
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: that we did all the tour. It was one day,

850
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: twelve hours, one day twelve hours straight of the entire

851
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: torture scenario. And then my last scene of the night, Yeah,

852
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: we're so good. And then the last scene of the night,

853
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: George Newborn showed up at ten or eleven o'clock at

854
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: night to do the last scene where I have to

855
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: drop and we have to make out right, And I remember,

856
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: that's my cringe worthy We always talk about our own

857
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 3: cringe worthy moments, which I've already been into where I

858
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: was like, Jesus, Katie just slimmer down on the overacting.

859
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 3: But the other thing is I love that Quinn's fucking

860
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: teeth have been ripped out and she makes out with yeah,

861
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: and she's, oh my god, it feels great, Like let's

862
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: make out harder like I did one thing that was

863
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 3: scripted where I'm like ow, and then I don't care.

864
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: But you know what, maybe I'm going to justify that

865
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 3: right now that Quinn is such a sick person and

866
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 3: she's into how bad it hurts. Oh yeah, she's so

867
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: messed up. It makes her feel alive. Right, that's so dark.

868
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: That's so dark, She's so dark.

869
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: It's true. Seeing you and George Newbern make out, it's

870
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 4: like you guys are brother and sister, but on camera.

871
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: Your chemistry on camera as as lovers is so believable.

872
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: I was a stan I remember, because it's you like

873
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: to see the characters who feel lonely and you want

874
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: to see and the two of you guys were that.

875
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: I was all for it.

876
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, oh my god. That was my other

877
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: cringe worthy moment is that scene again where Quinn and

878
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: Charlie are going to make out but I say like, no,

879
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 3: I don't have anyone and I'm alone, and because like

880
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: she's saying, Hawk pulled my teeth out, so now like

881
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: he's not my person. I don't have anyone. I don't

882
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: have anybody, And I'm like.

883
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you're acting was so good good and

884
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: your hair was just slightly wet.

885
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: My hair. I just like my hair.

886
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: I liked my hair. I think you and I had

887
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: no makeup on, which I'm always like, why do I

888
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: prefer that?

889
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: Look like? You look so good? Yeah?

890
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

891
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 2: I will really with blood dripping down my makeup.

892
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: I liked my shower look like a lot like I

893
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: was like, ooh, I cue that. I didn't like the

894
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: blood look, but I did the towel.

895
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: What other look I loved on you, Katie is when

896
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 4: you and Charlie are walking away and you're like in

897
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: a gray shirt with a black jacket and a ponytail,

898
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: and your boobs looks so good that.

899
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: I wrote on watching the sight, just in all.

900
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: And I'm gay.

901
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah it was boobs, and those boobs no longer exist

902
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: because this was clean or just feeding two children for

903
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: three years. I you were sat in rack and like

904
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: a nice, perky.

905
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: Good thing. It was documented.

906
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: That's so true.

907
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: I cletely agree. My husband was always like, oh, it's

908
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: such a bummer that you didn't have to do like

909
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: a topless scene like pre children, because what a gift

910
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 3: like to just share because they were great and now.

911
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: They are not.

912
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 4: It is I'm sure, I'm sure they look great still better.

913
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think, oh, yeah, you want to see you.

914
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: I think honestly, if we weren't on video, I totally

915
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: show you them. Everyone saying them, I don't care I would.

916
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: I think they are good compared to people who had

917
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: bad boobs and then breastfed, They're only going to be

918
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: worse boobs. And I had great boobs and then I

919
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: breastfed and now I have Okay, that's like the normal version.

920
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, boobs, the same, great boobs, but now they're

921
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: just like enhanced by the experience of like external motherhood exactly.

922
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: Thence their nuanced boobs.

923
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: Yes, in a way, they're actually better because.

924
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 4: They're like, I love you so much, Sabrina, I love

925
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: you so much.

926
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 3: Wait, okay, is there. I'm trying to think of any

927
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 3: other moments in this chock full episode.

928
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: There's one moment that we haven't talked about that I

929
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: think is what carries. What it just makes this episode

930
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: even better than what it is is the song that

931
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: is playing constantly throughout the episode. It's Ben by Michael Jackson,

932
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: sung by Michael Jackson, and the song is about a

933
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: rat and the whole time, and and then at the

934
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 4: end we find out that Maya, Olivia's mother is actually

935
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: a rat. She's the bad guy. And I thought, how

936
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: interesting is this that they chose this song and it's

937
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: such a beautiful song, right, now a rat. Yeah, it's

938
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: about a rat. It's from a movie called Willard I Believe,

939
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 4: which is about a guy who's obsessed with he has

940
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: like a pet rat. He's obsessed with rats. I might

941
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: be wrong about that, but the song is about a rat.

942
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: The rat's name is Ben. Yes, yes, look it up.

943
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: Look it up and look it up. I looked it

944
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 4: up last night first.

945
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: So yes, the music like nothing else like it. Oh

946
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: my goodness, like the whole, the music of the whole.

947
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: That was another thing. Oh yeah, when I was in college,

948
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: I used to just like when I wasn't watching schedule,

949
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: I was listening to the playlist.

950
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: Really, I think it's.

951
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: The freedom I needs mouth mentally. But also the way

952
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: that like the music has this interesting juxtaposition.

953
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: As to what's happening on screen.

954
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: Yes, what's happening on screen. And also I feel like

955
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: that song because of how they set it up with yours.

956
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: She heard shy It's okay, this is a symbol of

957
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: her childhood and this time of her life. But then yes,

958
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: it's so sad that no, she never really had this

959
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: innocent childhood, as it turned out, because nothing was innocent

960
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: about the situation.

961
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: It's is breaking it down, but breaking it down you

962
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: could literally have your own podcast. Yeah out scandal episodes

963
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: and what was really going on? And you look it up?

964
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: Katie, did you look up Ben?

965
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: Okay? I? First of all, I looked up the lyrics,

966
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: which is one hundred percent about a rat. That's insane.

967
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: It's just like the lyrics.

968
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: You're like, Ben, the two of us need look no more.

969
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: We both found what we were looking for with a

970
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 3: friend to call my own. I'll never be alone, Ben,

971
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: You're always running here to there? I'm like, which is

972
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 3: at a rat?

973
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 4: And it's also about Maya Pope? Right, She's always running

974
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: to and fro.

975
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we thought she had daddy issues this whole time,

976
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: but really she has wmy issues. That's oh my god,

977
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

978
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 4: Yes, And her dad in like.

979
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: A metaphor for growing up with your parents, and like,

980
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: this whole time, she thought that he made this decision

981
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: in this way to spite her, but really he was

982
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: trying to protect us. I was obsessed with this twisting.

983
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: I love it.

984
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: It's such a shocker too, right, because you're like, oh damn,

985
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 4: she's the bad one.

986
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: She's a bad one. And the biggest shock of the

987
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: whole episode other than I mean, it's a two for

988
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: one banger, is just the ending two minutes which you

989
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: better not fucking move on or check your phone, because

990
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: a we've got that Maya Pope is the rat, thank

991
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: you very much, Michael Jackson. And then we've got number two.

992
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 3: Sally Langston murders her.

993
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 4: Fucking's the bloody pope on the floor.

994
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: There's blood everywhere, and Daniel Douglas is just a face down,

995
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know who she calls, who she calls.

996
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 4: I thought she calls James, I thought, doesn't she Oh, Cyrus?

997
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: She calls Cyrus.

998
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:26,479
Speaker 2: Gray.

999
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 3: Oh yes, it's Ellis Gray, which is such a different

1000
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: character than Sally Langston is because Caper is such a

1001
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 3: good actress.

1002
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 4: And Sabrina she's Richard Burton's daughter who was married to

1003
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: Elizabeth Taylor. She's like Hollywood royalty. Katie says this all

1004
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: the time. You're the first one that said, I.

1005
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 2: Mean, she was like a theater queen, like Steppenwolf or

1006
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: Cyrus Iris is Steppenwolf, and she's been on Broadway eight

1007
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: million times.

1008
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 3: Here she wouldn't Yelle.

1009
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 2: She was a queen in that way. But I didn't know.

1010
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: Also the Holly her dad is Richard Burton, who was

1011
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: a master actor. He was Anthony. Yeah.

1012
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always feel like this Scandal president and vice

1013
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: president is Royalty because Tony Goldwyn is Goldwyn Metro Holly

1014
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: Royalty if that's his family, and family is Richard Burton.

1015
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: I know same and to be as good as he is, yes,

1016
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: I know.

1017
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 3: Now I have a question for you, Sabrina. Did you

1018
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 3: ever tweet about Yeah?

1019
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: So, I gotta tell you I was not chronically online

1020
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: until I became a person online I really did. It

1021
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 2: really was that I became a meme on Twitter, and

1022
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: that's why I started to be like, I have to

1023
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: figure out how Twitter works. I never on it in

1024
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: high school and college. There's a lot of people I

1025
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: could call him from and be like how much did

1026
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: I talk about Scandal from twenty until? And maybe like

1027
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: a lot we were worried about you? That's my evidence on.

1028
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: And do you tweet now?

1029
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Now? I just Twitter and Instagram and TikTok. Yeah, same

1030
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 2: thing you see me doing across all Doing the videos

1031
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: primarily is my way of bothering people.

1032
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 4: That it's making our lives better. It is, it's ringing

1033
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: us enjoyment and happiness.

1034
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: And we're going to read some tweets of the.

1035
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 4: Top Spanish bird people.

1036
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: But I'm born that you and I did not spend

1037
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: any time tweeting. But honestly your parents did a good job,

1038
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: and that you weren't on Twitter as a college student

1039
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 3: because it wasn't a safe space. Yeah, not great, but

1040
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 3: we have at Lauren K tweeted on December fifth, twenty thirteen,

1041
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 3: at Katie q Lows gets her face licked by Akia

1042
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 3: mo Diaz tonight. I shouldn't be as excited as I am,

1043
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 3: but what can I say? Yola?

1044
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let's see. Leone tweeted that opening scene between

1045
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 4: Hocking Quinn was too disturbing and that completely destroyed any

1046
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: shippy feels. Whatever Leone hashtag scandals.

1047
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: Get over it, you liked it. Hocke and Quinn get

1048
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: together next year. Isn't that next season where we hook?

1049
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 3: I don't remember.

1050
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: I still remember. We'll find out either.

1051
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: At Empowered on December fifth, tweeted, just curious how many

1052
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: grad students like myself have said, oh, I'll finish this

1053
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: paper during scandal and have failed miserably see Sabrina. There

1054
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: were other college students just.

1055
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: Like you, yo, and at Karina Bailey tweeted, oh my quick,

1056
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: someone turned on a Christmas movie. That episode of Scandal

1057
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 4: was too little, too intense for me. And if you're

1058
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 4: gonna turn on a Christmas movie, turn on Katie's Christmas movie,

1059
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: which is called I've Got to.

1060
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 3: Christmas Takes Flight on CBS. I've also got Mary kiss

1061
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: cam on.

1062
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: That's it with Jesse Bradford Klis. I love him, bring

1063
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 4: it on.

1064
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 3: I love him so much. At Treymarra tweeted at Carrie Washington, Honestly,

1065
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: I didn't think hash scandal could get any more scandalous.

1066
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 3: It's crazy hashtag. I love scandal, y'all really quickly.

1067
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: One more acting thing that stood out was your feet, Katie.

1068
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 4: You did the best foot acting in this episode. The

1069
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 4: foot fetishists out there are like salivating over night episode.

1070
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: They're okay that glass you.

1071
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: Grabbed, the glass, you throw it on the floor.

1072
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh maybe I should like upload that somewhere

1073
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: that I can get paid for.

1074
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 4: You need to monetize those feet.

1075
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 3: Ya, Sabrina, Wait, where can people tell people what you've

1076
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 3: got going on? Where we can find you what you

1077
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 3: have coming out? Because Garmon and I are obsessed with you.

1078
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: I think you're a fucking star and I need to

1079
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 3: know everything everybody.

1080
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 4: Sabrina posted a picture of her and I when we

1081
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: went to dinner with her sister and her a really

1082
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: great friend and a few other friends, and so many

1083
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 4: people on Instagram were like, oh my god, I love her,

1084
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 4: I love her videos like over and over. It was crazy. Anyway,

1085
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: go ahead, where can we find I?

1086
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: You can find me on the internet, Sabrina Briar and

1087
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: I have do have some fun things cooking that I

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Speaker 2: will be that haven't been announced that I will be

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Speaker 2: talking about Stuon. So just follow me, you guys, and

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Speaker 2: thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: We love you so much.

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Speaker 3: You have so much shit coming out that you're gonna

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Speaker 3: tell us you are like a working busy bee. It's

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Speaker 3: all happening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll never forget this. This was such a treat,

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Speaker 4: such a gift that you came on and we're so

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Speaker 4: happy treat.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sabrina. And next week we've got what is

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Speaker 3: the name of it? Oh my god? Episode three ten

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Speaker 3: a door marked Exit. I don't know if we have

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Speaker 3: a guest, but you should tune in to find out

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Speaker 3: because you know we've got the best guests like Sabrina

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Speaker 3: here and we.

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Speaker 4: Got that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Episode three ten Door Marked Exit. We love you Gladiators

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Speaker 3: until next week.

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Speaker 3: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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