1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Hey, there's Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff. I 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: never told your protection of I heart radio. How are 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: you doing today, Samantha? You know, I'm really I'm good today, 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: I think uh, I kind of forgot what day it was. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Thought was Monday, because you know, things don't exist anymore. 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: I've been running around a little crazy. I don't know why. 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: I accomplished one of my goals and learning how to 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: use social media better. So I feel like I feel 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: like I'm slowly on an uphill. Also, today in Georgia 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: is Giving Tuesday. Yes, so I made sure to find 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: all of my favorite organizations to be a part of 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: and celebrate with. So yeah, I feel like I've accomplished 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot more than typical on this day. Nice. How 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: are you? I'm good. I'm tired. Um, I have been. 15 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: I had our epic May the Fourth be with You 16 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: and today's Revenge of the Five um, and so I've 17 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: been very busy with my nursery mm hmmm, but also 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: quite productive. And I appreciate the reminder about Giving Tuesday. 19 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: And today is also my little brother's birthday. Yeah birthday. Yeah, 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: it definitely doesn't listen, but that's cool. I'm not mad. Yeah. 21 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: You know what, as you talking about May the fourth, 22 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I forgot that I did not do ma It's gonna 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: be May. Is that like your May the fourth? Well, 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: just because like I did Love in Sync and it 25 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: was one of my favorite memes in the past, So 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, we gotta because first of all, 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I thought as we were recording last week it was 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: February still, so yeah, I've caught up at least. Yeah. Yeah, 29 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: I like taking If there's one thing I'm trying to 30 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: take away from this pandemic, I'm trying to find, like 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: the silver linings. I do appreciate that I've almost become 32 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: a lot kinder to myself now where I'll be like, 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: you know what, you can find joy in these little 34 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: things and it doesn't have to feel frivolous, and you 35 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: can feel like you are being productive, even if it's 36 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: just you know, I made a really silly I cannot 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: wait to show pictures of it. I'm saving it because 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet. But I made very silly 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: diorama for Dungeons and Dragons um and we're going to 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: play for virtually for the first time. It's Friday, and 41 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to show them, but there's a time 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: we're doing that, spending that long on essentially a box 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: with some figurines. And I'm looking for hobbies to pick 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: up because, as you know, I've been playing tons and 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: tons of phone games yes you have, yes, including one 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: of our sponsors, bus Beans. Actually I've accelerated a lot 47 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: that not need to stop that, but also not. I've 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: decided I wanted to do some knitting, so I've been 49 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: talking to about a good friend of mine who is 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: a big knitter, and she and I've been discussing how 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: to get started. So yeah, box dioramas and knitting. Come on, 52 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: we're the best your habit, your hobby might be a 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: bit better than mine. I can't wait for you to 54 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: see it. I can't wait. I'm excited to see at 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: one to my hobby hasn't really started, and the level 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: of frustration that's probably gonna happen at the beginning may 57 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: end up making me quit. So we're not gonna put 58 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: too much like expectation on it. But yeah, I'm glad 59 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: that I'm trying something new. We'll check in on you 60 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: later about the knitting. I'm sure some listeners have some tips. 61 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'm going to stab myself a 62 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: couple of times, so I think that's part of the process. Yeah, um, well, 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: today I just wanted to check in. Always I'd like 64 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: to see you today. We are not just talking about 65 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: knitting and D and D dioramas. We are talking about 66 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: essential workers, what that means and how it specifically impacts women. 67 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: And the day I was researching this, I guess that 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: was May one, the essential workers were on strike across 69 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: the country. And we've seen a lot of backlash with 70 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: the protests, including firings and dismissing of whistleblowers at the workplace, 71 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: which is honestly a whole other conversation of unionization and 72 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: rights of workers. But again it's a different topic altogether, 73 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: and we should talk about it eventually, come back to 74 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: what that looks like, especially for women and females and 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: those who are intersectional, and how they are unprotected from 76 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: a lot of this backlash. But yeah, as we are 77 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: talking about it, we know that there's a big conversation 78 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: with Amazon, with Whole Foods, with all of those different 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: places and whether or not they're protecting their workers. Um, 80 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: and as we know, they have all been seemed essential workers, 81 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: and what is essential workers? It varies from state to state, 82 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: but a lot of these essential jobs are held by women, 83 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of the women are women of color 84 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: and are low wage, so they don't come with Pailey, 85 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: don't come with the option to work from home, And 86 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: sixty two of low wage and minimum income workers again 87 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: are women, and some people are making more on an employment. 88 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: But again, to get on unemployment you generally have to 89 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: be fired or far lowed, and at this point I 90 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: hope you get through the system. This is probably one 91 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: of the reasons the death rate is higher in the 92 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: black and brown communities, which we will talk about as 93 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: we keep going right. UH. New York Times analysis reported 94 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: on by Campbell, Robertson and Robert Gabelow found that one 95 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: in three jobs held by women have been deemed essential, 96 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: and the likeliest group to be doing an essential job 97 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: are women of color. Women make up of the essential 98 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: jobs workforce, and the article went on to break it 99 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: down by sector. Here's a quote. Women at makeup nearly 100 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: nine out of ten nurses and nursing assistance, most respiratory therapist, 101 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: a majority of pharmacists, and an overwhelming majority of pharmacy aids, 102 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: and technicians. More than two thirds of the workers at 103 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: grocery store checkouts and fast food counters are women. In contrast, 104 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: twenty eight percent of male employees have been identified as essential. 105 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: So if we focus in on the medical fields specifically, 106 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: almost four out of five workers are women. They're estimated 107 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: five point eight million healthcare of jobs that pay less 108 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: than thirty thousand a year, and half of those jobs 109 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: performed are by people of color and of them are 110 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: done by women, and out of ten home and personal 111 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: care aids, again are women's physically an emotionally demanding work 112 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: to healthcare workers experience non failed work injuries at a 113 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: higher rate than the employees and construction and manufacturing sectors, 114 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: and the CDC recently released a study finding that since 115 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: the beginning of the outbreak, seventy of known infected medical 116 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: workers in the US have been women. Where men exposing 117 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: themselves to COVID nineteen are frequently earning less than male counterparts, 118 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: which means it's harder for women to leave jobs they 119 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: might feel unsafe at because they have less financial wiggle room, 120 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: and the gender wage gap is worse for women of 121 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: color and not being properly compensated. Women in general are 122 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: likelier to hold lower paying jobs, not being protected, oftentimes 123 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: not even noticed. Essential work often done by women is 124 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: and long has been undervalued. And all of this on 125 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: top of being the primary caregethers to children now at 126 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: home all day long. A recent survey found that sixty 127 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: seven point five percent of Black mothers and forty one 128 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: point four percent of Latin X mothers are the sole 129 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 1: breadwinner of their families, and for White mothers that number 130 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: is thirty seven percent. According to the u N Global 131 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Compact Academy, globally, women already do three times more unpaid 132 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: work when compared to men, and six of women work 133 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: in the quote informal sector without access to structural protections. Also, 134 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: women have traditionally done a majority of the home cooking 135 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: and grocery shopping, two things that have become more necessary, 136 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: complicated and anxiety inducing things like planning for two weeks, 137 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: planning around shortages, keeping in mind when things are running 138 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: low and need to be replaced, managing schooling schedules for children, 139 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: keeping them entertained. This is not just anecdotal, there is 140 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: research backing it up already, and this has more implications. 141 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: In terms of women's careers. Already, there's been a decrease 142 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: in academic papers submitted by women. Researchers speculate that this 143 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: could later impact women's chances at promotions and raises. And 144 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: there are extra expectations on jobs too, for example, setting 145 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: up FaceTime so that families of patients can virtually be 146 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: with their loved ones, quarantining from your family. Um. So 147 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: today I went grocery shopping for the first time in 148 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: three weeks, and it was so stressful for me, but 149 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: I was only in there for about twenty minutes. And 150 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: for these essential workers that stress just every day having 151 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: to deal with that, that takes a toll, right. Um. 152 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: And another thing women. So a majority of the masks, 153 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: a lot of them are donated, so they aren't even 154 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: getting paid. And those that are as companies pivot to 155 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: make them are largely composed of Latin X and Asian 156 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Americans who are under compensated. And there is a long 157 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: history of women being asked to make things largely for 158 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: free and volunteer during the disasters. Right on the flip 159 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: side of the essential worker, we have to look at 160 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: job loss. Black and Latin X people are losing their 161 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: jobs at the highest rates. Looking specifically at the hospitality 162 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: industry around housekeepers are women. Many of these women are 163 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: women of color, immigrants and or refugees. Many don't have 164 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: any money saved, a lot of them are single mothers, 165 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and in some cities up to of hotel workers have 166 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: lost their jobs. Of course, in childcare, jobs largely dominated 167 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: by women around have seen cut up to and a 168 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: lot of them, again are women of color and have 169 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: been working on extremely low wages to begin with, and 170 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: oftentimes with little to no benefits, including paid time off. 171 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: And that is something I would love to come back 172 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: to you and talk about in a future episode, But 173 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: for now we have to talk about job loss. But 174 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: before we get into that, we're gonna take a quick 175 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: break for a word from our sponsors, and we're back. 176 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: I thank you sponsored. Something else we wanted to touch 177 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: on that there's been a lot of conversation about lately, 178 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: is p p P. So if you don't know that, 179 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: what that is here in the United States, um over 180 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: small businesses that have employed ways face immediate or near 181 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: term risk. To combat that, the government launched the Payment 182 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Protection Program p PP. But as you've probably heard, the 183 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: program hasn't been super successful thus far. The site was 184 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and crashed pretty much immediately. And then all this 185 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: news started coming out about big companies like the Lakers 186 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: and shake Shack getting millions because they get white glove 187 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: treatment from banks. Millions that was meant to go to 188 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: small businesses. Definitely, those are not small businesses. And thanks 189 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: to systemic structural racism and sexism when it comes to 190 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: things like getting loans, most of these companies are owned 191 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: by white men, So not having access to a safety 192 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: structure like this is impacting women and people of color 193 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: more right, and some women are turning to things like 194 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Bumble to find business partners and loans. And we know 195 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: that businesses and companies like Spain has been offering small 196 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: business loans for women of color specifically as well as 197 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: women owned businesses. So that's inspiring to see, but unfortunate 198 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: that we have to go to that route in order 199 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: to get any kind of assistance. And then the UN 200 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: Global Compact has made some recommendations for companies to support 201 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: women during this time, like including women and decision making 202 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: process what a thought, and supporting working your parents and 203 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: remembering a lot of the unpaid work when it comes 204 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: to chalk air falls to women, it is interesting. I 205 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: would I hope that one day in the future people 206 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: look back and the very fact that the UN had 207 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: to make a recommendation include women any decision making will 208 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: be laughable or weird, like they had to tell people 209 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, even as we talk about it, 210 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: the you win has was it right before, right at 211 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: the beginning when they were talking about it being a 212 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: world pandemic, actually discussing the fact for women's issues and 213 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: women's rights being something that's important to the UN and 214 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: should be a part of their policies. And it took 215 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: that conversation and we're still having to have that conversation. 216 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Says a lot. It does. It does uh well. Back 217 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: to um small businesses in the u S. Boosting the 218 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: unemployment insurance structure is something that has been recommended. Paid 219 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: family leave again feels like, yes, we should have that. 220 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: Raising the minimum wage, implementing tools for easier access to banks, 221 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: emergency childcare and housing programs, providing personal protective equipment or 222 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: ppe those kinds of things to help people during this 223 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: get through this. I think something that we all show 224 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: should talk about is right now. Essential workers do include 225 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: domestic work. Um And I know it kind of went 226 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: around about it, but I know many and nanny's who 227 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: are still employed at this point in time and traveling 228 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: to homes because they are trying to assist with education 229 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: as well as childcare as it is a daily thing. Um, 230 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: And we do see that it's not necessarily being called 231 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 1: essential work. At the same time, it's kind of that 232 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: trickle effect when someone who is in the medical field 233 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: are leaning on these other domestic workers to come in 234 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: and assist as well, um, and then also providing care 235 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: all of that. Yeah, And this is just another very stark, 236 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: terrifying example of how essential work is largely women's work, 237 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: as women who are making our society work and run 238 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: and providing the basics we need to survive, and we 239 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: don't value it and we don't compensate it, and we're 240 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: just expecting people to risk there their lives and the 241 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: lives of the people they love of for no pay 242 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: and like just do it. It's your job, right right, yeah? Yeah. Um, 243 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: So if there's a chance coming out of this we 244 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: can reevaluate the things like the division of labor when 245 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: it comes to the household undervaluing of women's work, the 246 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: structural sexism and racism inherent and a lot of our 247 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: society and the way programs work that I hope I 248 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: hope that we will. Um. I'm glad we're having these conversations, 249 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: and we need to continue to have them. I'm afraid 250 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: that if we don't, these things will actually get worse 251 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: coming out of it. Um. These essential workers are doing 252 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: more than risking their lives so that we can stay home. 253 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: They're keeping our community going. So we see you and 254 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: we thank you, and I think that's also again, it's 255 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: still really big subject and we probably need to talk 256 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: about it as everybody is starting to slowly reopen. As 257 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: protests are happening with the statement that the government are 258 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: infringing other rights to be able to go out, and 259 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: we see many of ridiculous protests as that says I 260 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: need a haircut, um, and along those lines, it seems 261 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: like with things like that happening, with those types of protests, 262 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: people are not actually valuing what essential workers are. And 263 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: even though you have this ridiculous line of heroes and 264 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: warriors and all this war talk about the essential workers 265 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: and how much they're needed, we are not actually caring 266 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: for their health. We care more about our ability to 267 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: have a hobby or to again look nice for some reason, 268 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to thinking about what this does to a 269 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: restaurant workers, be grocery workers, see medical field. Who's going 270 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: to be once again overwhelmed and overrun with our inability 271 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: to maintain a healthy boundary. Yeah, so I think that 272 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: as we talk about central workers, we cannot forget the 273 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: downfall as well as the many of implications and the 274 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: dangers and the risks we are putting the essential workers 275 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: at as we are trying to move forward too fast 276 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: because we are antsy essentially totally. Um. And when I 277 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: was researching this, UM, I read a lot of articles 278 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: where people essential workers were interviewed and one thing they 279 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: said that stood out to me as a lot of 280 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: them said, people are treating me nicer, but they should 281 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: have been treating me I start to begin with, and 282 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: that they hope coming out of this that that will 283 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: stay and I hope so too. But yes, we should 284 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: be treating people with kindness all the time. Right, Yeah, 285 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: m um, we were some then I were talking I'm 286 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: trying to think of a positive, a funny thing we 287 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: get in done, and we were talking about we're going 288 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: to get quarantine cuts at some point. I'm sorry we did. 289 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: We said that, well, we were we were just discussing, like, 290 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: I've already cut my bangs myself. I don't have bangs, really, 291 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: so you're just gonna I'm actually kind of in a 292 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: weird way excited to see everybody's hair when we have 293 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: all can emerge. Right. I have always been that person 294 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: that she cuts my hair short and then lets it 295 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: grow out for six months, So I guess that's what's 296 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: going to end up happening. I will say I've had 297 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: my short haircut for about two years now, so you 298 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: know that's that. But it's not going to be a 299 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: complete shock. I was really hoping my partner would let 300 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: me mess with his hair, but he keeps telling me, no, 301 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: they're still time. He's smart, that's smart, but I don't 302 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: want to. Yeah, it's I'm not really allowed to be 303 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: too creative with my hair, and I've always wanted to 304 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: be because I'm an actor, and so if i'd like 305 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: show up with a weird haircut and dyed hair, that's 306 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: a very specific role I'm gonna get cast in if 307 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: I get casts at all. Right, now, I'm stuck inside 308 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: and nothing's filmings, right, I mean we're about to. I 309 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: think there's conversations of us getting hair dyes, so I 310 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna show up on my hair because 311 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: I'm my hair is completely black. So I'm hoping again 312 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: I can talk my partner to let me dye his 313 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: hair bright blue or something. We'll see, right, Yeah, we'll see, 314 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: so look out for those pictures. Listeners. We speaking of listeners, 315 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: we do have some listening mail in this one, but 316 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: first we have one more quick break for a word 317 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsored. So yes, 318 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: the loving hearing from you listeners as always, and thought 319 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: we would read the right. First of all, we just 320 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: want to get a shout out to all the people 321 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: her are messaging us. Thank you so much. There's been 322 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: so many people talking about all of the good stuff 323 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: that we're talking about as well suggestions, so please keep 324 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: those coming and we do read them and hopefully they'll 325 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: be underway. As in fact, I think I want to 326 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: avow our upcoming book clubs listener suggestions. So yeah, but yes, 327 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: so Hannah wrote, I hope you're staying sane and safe 328 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: now that I guess Georgia is allowed to move around, 329 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: which is terrifying. And by the way, just on a 330 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: side note, Andy and I are not nope. Um, but 331 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: Hannah writes, I wanted to tell you that my friend 332 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Katie and I have been hosting a podcast for about 333 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: a year about made for TV movies called One Kiss 334 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Means Forever, which, by the way, it's a great time 335 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: because that's basically all you get in these movies. This 336 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: seems like a good time to suggest it, as it 337 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: is completely about escapism movies. We do talk a lot 338 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: about Hallmark, and though not exclusively, yes, and the Hallmark 339 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: channel definitely has those. I think while they may not 340 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: talk about it exclusively, Hallmark is exclusively that. Yeah, exactly. 341 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: So that's obviously a good note. I know where Lifetime 342 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: is all the tragedy um. But we're very aware that 343 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: these are not good movies, but they definitely have a 344 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: place and a purpose. We try to highlight and we 345 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: see feminism, which generally makes the movies more palatable. I 346 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: know this is not really your thing. Actually, I've watched 347 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: a few. Don't worry, I've watched a few. You can 348 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: see I've watched a few. But you did ask for 349 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: suggestions of podcasts made by women, and since we're all 350 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: stressed out, it might be just what some people need. 351 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: We try to keep it funny as much as possible. 352 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: Thanks Hannah. I act actually really would love that, because 353 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: who doesn't love a making fun of some really cheesy 354 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: movies and cheesy acting but be pretending like everything's gonna 355 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: be okay at the end of the hour dirty minutes sequence. Yeah, 356 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: so listeners probably know I'm not. This is not my world, 357 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: but I do love it, and I think I would 358 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: enjoy a podcast even without having seen it, because you 359 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: just know that trope so much. But um, I think 360 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: two years ago I bought on one of my best 361 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: US friends, Katie, and we did a bonus holiday episode 362 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: where she shared her expertise with all of the Hallmark 363 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Holiday movies. So I listened to that one. Yeah, that's 364 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: how Yes, I'll listen to that one. So again, if 365 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: you guys are looking for an easy escape podcast, its 366 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: one kiss means forever. Yes. And now we have a 367 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: letter from another listener who asked to remain anonymous. They wrote, 368 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: I hope this letter finds its way to you. I 369 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: am an avid listener of your podcast. In particular, I 370 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: listened to your entire Trauma mini series last year. That 371 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: series was very timely for me, as I've been going 372 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: through my own journey the past year and a half 373 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: to make peace with some things that happened to me 374 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: when I was much younger. As part of this healing journey, 375 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: together with a friend of mine who is professional trauma therapist, 376 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: I have created a site called the Impact Project. The 377 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: Impact Project offers a space for victims of sexual assault 378 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: to create and share an impact statement completely anonymously if 379 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: they would like, about how the experience has affected their 380 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: life years, decades, are a lifetime after it occurred. We 381 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: are using these statements to create a piece of art 382 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: in the form of a word cloud within an image. 383 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: We want to use survivor's own words to show and 384 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: educate people about the complex and long term impacts of 385 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: sexual assault. Each of our individual journeys will contribute to 386 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: the collective narrative of our unique but shared experiences. This 387 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: project has been in the works for a long time, 388 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: long since before anyone had ever heard of COVID nineteen. 389 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: I debated with myself a lot about whether to push 390 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: forward with a launch now or to wait, but ultimately 391 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: decided to launch now despite the pandemic. At a high level, 392 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: I feel that COVID nineteen has set off all of 393 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: my triggers, both from my sexual assault and from my 394 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: complex PTSD, even though those triggers have nothing to do 395 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen. Just the constant state of heightened anxiety 396 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I now find myself in has bought all of my 397 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: trauma responses screaming back to the forefront. I feel like, 398 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: now more than ever, people who have experienced trauma need 399 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: an outlet to talk about it. The Impact Checked offers 400 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: one such space. I wanted to reach out to both 401 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: of you in part because people like you speaking out 402 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: about sexual assault and trauma that inspired me to create 403 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: this project. So thank you for doing the mini series 404 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: and for highlighting these difficult and underdiscussed topics. I also 405 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: want to reach out to both of you because you 406 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: have talked about being survivors yourselves, and I thought you 407 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: might find what we're doing interesting. I also know that 408 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: these are weird, stressful, busy times and you don't know 409 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: me at all, So like, if you don't want to 410 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: or not able to respond right now, I would just 411 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: like to offer this site as something you can check 412 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: out if you have the time and mental energy to 413 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: do so. The site is at impact hyphen project dot com. Yeah, 414 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: and we did definitely go check it out, and it's 415 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: an amazing project. It's really beautiful. But I love projects 416 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: like this because I think it's so important. Um, I 417 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: actually had a the whole thing way back when when 418 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I was going through a lot of my trauma and 419 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: triggers and trying to open up. That is so important 420 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: to be able to say what you need to in 421 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: your own words. So thank you so much. This is 422 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: an amazing, amazing project. Absolutely, I really really it was 423 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: beaut of fall and inspiring, and um, you listeners are 424 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: doing stuff like this all the time that we find amazing, 425 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: and I definitely agree that just the constant anxiety is 426 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: very triggering. So I believe people absolutely are looking for 427 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: things like this if that's something they're experiencing. So thank 428 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: you again, and thanks to all of you listeners who 429 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: are writing in keep those messages coming. We want to 430 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: know what you're doing, what's your quarantine haircut? What movies 431 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: should we watch? What's our next watch party? 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