WEBVTT - Episode 246: Came Out Suckin’ (Feat. Jidenna)

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? What's time? It is? Let's service at me

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<v Speaker 1>and Lage. I'm stup in Santiago. I'm glariow Ntanna. That's

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<v Speaker 1>your what's up? Y'all? Listen, we're all at home. And

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<v Speaker 1>he just said he just had the bubble guts. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in salad. This is cool coffee, Wow, I said, don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more like toss the coffee. They got this cool

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<v Speaker 1>little coffee shop that's still open. Why I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but is it really? Well, my juice bar is still open,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's considered, and it said, I guess food places

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you take it to go things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it can still stay open. Yeah, your juice bar is

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<v Speaker 1>like legit essential though, all right, any anything with health

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<v Speaker 1>products right now is essential. So yeah, so now we

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<v Speaker 1>are appreciative of that. So, and we're appreciative of you.

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<v Speaker 1>To Jenna, we start, you've been doing all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>fun things online since this coronavirus pandemic has started, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just making sure you stay in touch with people. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean as soon as this this ship hit, I knew, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a while a lot of people are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be out for a few weeks. I was like, Nah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a few months at least, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna affect everybody, you know, especially as artists. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to find new ways to connect. You don't got events,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have festivals. We can't tour for at least

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<v Speaker 1>a year. So I was like, all right, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me be more active online than ever before. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>doing that finding the ways. You have these characters that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to Um, you then broke out the Afrow.

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<v Speaker 1>You then broke out of Boston accent. Yeah. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have done a lot of some acting. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything coming up in the future that you may

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<v Speaker 1>be doing a little bit more acting on? So I

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<v Speaker 1>got stuck in a late because which is a great

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<v Speaker 1>place to be. I'm glad, I'm grateful I'm here. But

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<v Speaker 1>I came for auditions, but a lot of them obviously

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<v Speaker 1>have not transpired, and like the last two months, um so,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, you know what, I got all

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<v Speaker 1>these characters from being around different neighborhoods of my whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Cheaper Company is a show where we we

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<v Speaker 1>me so Charlie, Charlie. It was Sugarie Joe obviously is

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<v Speaker 1>seventies a guy. He was actually wearing this this best

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<v Speaker 1>I got from my homie um. And the second character

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<v Speaker 1>was Charlie of Cyrus, which is like a Boston hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from. Think about Boston people don't really black and

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<v Speaker 1>brown people don't talk the way like all the Walberg

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<v Speaker 1>films sound like, unless they live in the suburbs. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I because that accident is funny, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me take a Boston suburban black person and make

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<v Speaker 1>him a hotel, you know what I mean, because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't that's not usually our hoteps talk. How do Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 1>people talk? Brooklyn people where we're we're in Brooklyn. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do no best stop because I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>live in East Flatbush. But there you go. That's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Flatbush? You know you know

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<v Speaker 1>what ship is out here? You know, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but that ship that's ship busting, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just everything is here. It's like it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>small cone because we're in the bush, like Flatbush zombies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's all like at least where we are,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the weed, the weed dealers that we had

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<v Speaker 1>that people as low key kids. I'm in the thirties.

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<v Speaker 1>When you start going to nineties, is that Brownsville, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different like the nineties has been, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>so deep. Now you really have real music right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's why drill music is coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>certain spots. It's where it's least gentrified, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you get like it's like, is really doing drills right now?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. They're so deep in it. It's like they

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<v Speaker 1>ain't even been on the internet. Like the way they talked,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like wow, Like it reminds me of old New

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<v Speaker 1>York and I appreciate it so much, like we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing like that for years. But we also appreciate we'

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<v Speaker 1>hearing on your music on Insecure. We know you have

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<v Speaker 1>the song things where that came on last night's episode

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<v Speaker 1>and we are big, big fans of the show as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's your playing this fire, Yeah, it's you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>lame things the way to people like what it is

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know about energy and stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and your what's your name? Marie Condo? That her last

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<v Speaker 1>name y'all know, I'm talking about the she I want

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<v Speaker 1>to believe. I believe that she's from Japan. I know

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<v Speaker 1>she's East Asian and she has a show on Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>about tidying up your spot. Y'all know I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it neither, but you let me. This is a great

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<v Speaker 1>time for people to figure out how to clean up

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<v Speaker 1>their energy. But go ahead, okay. Um. So, punctual is

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that if you clean up your space and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of be more of a minimalist, especially with furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's a natural airflow and the natural flow in

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<v Speaker 1>your place that will create life in your environment. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was using it in terms of design, like style,

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<v Speaker 1>how you feel, um, the functuate your mind. I was

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<v Speaker 1>taking functually out of this furniture, and I made this

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<v Speaker 1>dance record, like an Afro func slash hip hop dance

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<v Speaker 1>record called punctuay Um. It's not like Super Deep or

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like that, but it's just for right now. For

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<v Speaker 1>people just need to be liberated. They need to feel light,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to feel like they're going outside. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where y'all stationed, but I'm in Atlanta in Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to interrupt me. But I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this. This is the first time that I moved

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<v Speaker 1>into an apartment. I didn't really rush to furnish it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the energy in here is so it's it's been

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<v Speaker 1>amazing for me. I've had the best luck ever. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't put a mirror in my bedroom and everything's been

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<v Speaker 1>going really well. No, because I haven't. I swear my

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<v Speaker 1>my living room is like a photo studio and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so airy, and I feel like there's the energy

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<v Speaker 1>in here is amazing, So don't fill it up. Like no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think something. You need to watch this nex. I

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<v Speaker 1>really I can't. I'm blanking on the name, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think I got it right. She would she she comes

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<v Speaker 1>into the space and she like she praised in it,

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<v Speaker 1>in your in your house, and she comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>space of like hoarding people. So she comes and kneels down,

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<v Speaker 1>like gives herself to the space and then she just

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<v Speaker 1>gets rid of all your ship. So you, just like

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<v Speaker 1>Angela would die. I already know I'm a hoarder. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a hoarder. See the bar in the books right there,

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<v Speaker 1>which is clean, but I'm imagining all the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>not in frame right now, do you know what, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your record? I felt like when even when you put

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<v Speaker 1>the record on, because like I played it and I

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<v Speaker 1>was playing it like back to back, and out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>you just started dancing, and I'm like, what am I

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<v Speaker 1>doing right here? Looks like you're you dance right and

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<v Speaker 1>you're the because you had a lot of women that

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<v Speaker 1>you had dancing on you and that you were dancing

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<v Speaker 1>went and that was going viral. So could you have

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship with a woman that can't dance as well

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<v Speaker 1>as you? M good questions? Wow, that's the question. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't learn one one. I don't think I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>like an amazing dancer, but I feel like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like everything like cooking, right, I couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman who can't cook, but I could be

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman who doesn't cook. Like it's just weird

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<v Speaker 1>for me, is like a human being to not really

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<v Speaker 1>know how to cook. I don't care if you're into that.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm not one of those guys all the

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<v Speaker 1>time at least. Yeah, yeah, I just know it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a basic thing, like what is she's really good at

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<v Speaker 1>ordering food for you? And it always knows what you like,

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<v Speaker 1>really good at Yeah, what is she gonna like? I

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<v Speaker 1>know he's gonna love this. Cook this on the side.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that with us, right, Stephanie, I can't cook. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't cook. That's what I'm saying. You can cook, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like I can cook. I'm not cooking, like

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<v Speaker 1>even now, Like I have meal plan, which is such

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<v Speaker 1>a it sounds like the most the most luxurious thing

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<v Speaker 1>to have in a global pandemic right now. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't with dancing, you have to be able to,

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<v Speaker 1>like at least move a little bit, because then, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I don't know if you can

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<v Speaker 1>in the bedroom, but I don't need you to dance

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<v Speaker 1>like all the cool dances like function. I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>aren't even like dancing the regular dances. A little tooth,

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<v Speaker 1>that little one, yeah, a little something, you're okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>know she don't got a boom cat all over a

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<v Speaker 1>little group. She started popping. That's a little I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>call you out on something that you said, okay about

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<v Speaker 1>lying in you did admit a liar, and a woman

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<v Speaker 1>asked you about that and you said I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, it kind of was conflicting because

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<v Speaker 1>she asked you about lying, and a liar would have said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't lie, but you, being an honest liar that

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<v Speaker 1>you are, said I have to let you know I

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<v Speaker 1>am been a lot to you. Yeah, the verbatim, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep it a hundred. I am gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>a lie to you, like at some point, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that I'm a liar. I'm just saying or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I am. He said you was a manipulator, though

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<v Speaker 1>I have been gonna get into that. Everybody says, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of you are me being a hundred of

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm going to lie, is me being honest. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>does not lie in as soon as you enter a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>you're already in a lie because you're like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to only give my all, only be attractive to you,

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<v Speaker 1>or only one to ever be with you. It's already

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<v Speaker 1>already a lot like look all right now, like right, somebody, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you. The first line by a mass

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<v Speaker 1>manipulator is always I'm gonna keep it one hunted. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as that to you, you know there's a manipulation

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<v Speaker 1>coming in. You know what I mean, but but but

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<v Speaker 1>they never say that, you know a lot like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. I'm just being. I don't want to what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a point in life. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>make a promise I can't keep, So I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you forever, I'm not gonna lie. There's always little

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<v Speaker 1>white lies at very least if not, you know sometimes Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well let's get some examples. Let's just say that you

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<v Speaker 1>and your lady are you guys are already out right

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<v Speaker 1>on a date. Nothing she could do about it at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, and she's like, does this outfit make me

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<v Speaker 1>look back? And it kind of does, right, You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>her wear more flattering things for her figure. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>answer that question? I would lie, for sure, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect answer. But there's no way I'm going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>her the truth. There's this movie called The Inventional Lie

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<v Speaker 1>where like it takes place before humans figured out lie,

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<v Speaker 1>like how to a lie? And so is hilarious, But

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<v Speaker 1>people would answer that question like for real and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just not worth it, Like why would I

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<v Speaker 1>make it feel that way? Way to get her to change?

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<v Speaker 1>Before you leave the house? Did you put that up? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>A good way a good way to have to mention it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think you can be honest in the crib,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know you can be like, Yo, have you

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<v Speaker 1>remember that dress you for, you know, our last anniversary?

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I'm feeling that really, Oh you think

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<v Speaker 1>I look, yeah, I love that one. I just love

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<v Speaker 1>you can just and that and I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>it were. It's still But that's that's the good. That's manipulation. Ship.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't I tell people this. I'm not a liar,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna tell on myself, So you just

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<v Speaker 1>avoid it. You're a deceiver, but I just telling myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't be honest. You can't completely completely be

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<v Speaker 1>honest all the time. Everybody lies a little something and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then, and then there's also where you have

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<v Speaker 1>to process some ships. So like something happens, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>kind of way, but you don't know how to approach it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you end up deceiving a person not telling them

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<v Speaker 1>maybe for a week or two, and then you come

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<v Speaker 1>back and they're like, yeah, why don't you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place? And you're like, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>process it, but the whole time process and you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>telling the person anything, so like this, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, it's we all manipulate, we all deceive,

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<v Speaker 1>all lie And I don't think it's always terrible. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's there's that it's actually a value of mine.

0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.720
<v Speaker 1>There's like little white lies, and then there's harmful lies. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's to this line. So let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're dating a girl and she asked you, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think my friend looks better than me? And she does it,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's live live. No, Well, if I think her

0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.480
<v Speaker 1>friend looks better than her, then maybe I should be

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<v Speaker 1>dating a friend. I agree, Like, she can give me

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<v Speaker 1>your number, because I'm like, if if there's I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to date a woman within a friend circle that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not most attracted to, there may be a woman

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<v Speaker 1>who's like traditionally pretty, she looked fly, like great, cool,

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.520
<v Speaker 1>But I should be more attractive to my woman. What

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't meet her friends till later? Though? You

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<v Speaker 1>know how sometimes you meet a girl and then you're like, damn,

0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I should have dated her friend. That is true, that

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<v Speaker 1>definitely happening. That's definitely happened. And then when you then

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<v Speaker 1>you feel bad in your whole mind. Yeah, already I

0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:13.160
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been at that. I should have waited the

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<v Speaker 1>early early thought happen. Yeah, uh, you know whatever, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. And also you know, y'all, y'all know I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like I'm open to both monogamy and polyamory. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's there's always you know, nobody are nowadays

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<v Speaker 1>right and men. It's actually it's women, and especially in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn is where I learned all this. I'm from there too.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't learned that ship neither. You know what No,

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<v Speaker 1>you slap, but that's like that's like best side all

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<v Speaker 1>the way for you for Green East, Flatbush and Easter

0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't like CANNOSTI I don't know what that word means

0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.280
<v Speaker 1>right now, but in the in the hipster areas that

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<v Speaker 1>she started coming in California and ship and in infiltrated

0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in Brooklyn. But I'm telling you there was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of women. Women put me on the shippulated right now

0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.800
<v Speaker 1>because we are being manipulated. But what is even your type?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what your type is, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>type of woman? Like man? It varies like uh, it veries,

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the space I'm in, Like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger. I only dated hood rats for a minute.

0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Swear like if you if you didn't have like a

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<v Speaker 1>gold tooth, and like like seven taxs and and hoop

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<v Speaker 1>earrings with your name in it. I wasn't dating that

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<v Speaker 1>was that was early on. And then then I got

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<v Speaker 1>into like the mystic gypsy kind of women and that

0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we're like would vacuum their house and then bust stage

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<v Speaker 1>out while listening to trap music. That whole means um

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<v Speaker 1>that now now, And I said this like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying this all week because it's something I really realized recently.

0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm just looking for a kind of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of women, Like women in general, to me, are are

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<v Speaker 1>more thoughtful than men. But I used to put your

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<v Speaker 1>sophistication and your streets above kindness, and now I put

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<v Speaker 1>kindness above those you want basically like a mystic kind hardress.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah perfect, that sounds perfect. Yeah, actually that's it. I

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<v Speaker 1>would take that any day, like you need to be no,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like hard. Three is hard. Three is three

0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.320
<v Speaker 1>is hard. I just need her to be in different

0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.960
<v Speaker 1>spaces because I'm not. I'm not. I don't live in

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<v Speaker 1>one world I live in like I'll get bored I

0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 1>get bored with women who only know like I date

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<v Speaker 1>like a business professional, corporate woman who talks like this

0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and use the shirt lips like you know, like that's cool.

0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not gonna be there in that world the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. So when we go to the nineties in Brooklyn,

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<v Speaker 1>can you are you okay? You adapt? Are you comfortable?

0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't need you to dreak, but yeah, you see

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you see one fire, you see some pill, you see something,

0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:44.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh my god, we're gonna get yeah, relaxed,

0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.280
<v Speaker 1>like it's okay, and vice versa, Like I can't take

0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.159
<v Speaker 1>somebody some of the women I used to date to

0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.800
<v Speaker 1>some of these like galas, they're just not gonna survive.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, let me ask this back to the

0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:01.040
<v Speaker 1>line thing. Let's just say and asked you, is this

0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the best pussy you ever had? And it's really not.

0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 1>It's trash. Are you gonna tell her? Yes? As a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, you have to fake with orgasm? Oh damn, damn,

0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think how did how does it? He just

0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:23.160
<v Speaker 1>stopped you? I know how he does know? How? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. Earlier today I had to get it in

0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.679
<v Speaker 1>myself you had a rub one out before, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know right now if you see you know that's why

0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't see nothing coming out of me. But God,

0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you never just pretended that you came, but you didn't. No,

0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think. I don't think men pretend like I don't.

0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I guarantee you they have do. Yes, we've

0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:51.760
<v Speaker 1>had men on lips every day that you think that

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>they pretended. Yeah, I never, I never. I need put

0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that in my arsenal now I never did that. That's

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a tool. Okay, No, I mean the best pussy I

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<v Speaker 1>ever had. I have to tell her that, Yeah, are

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:10.159
<v Speaker 1>you gonna lie? Are you gonna tell the truth? Yeoh?

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 1>If she put me on the spot, I might. I might.

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I might tell the truth. I know I know myself

0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>because after I'd be like, and she said something much

0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the best pussy you ever had? I'd been like, uh,

0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:36.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who was the best pussy that you ever had? Like?

0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.000
<v Speaker 1>What was the experience? Like? Do you remember I was young? Yo,

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I was a teenager, Like I had a high school sweetheart.

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.879
<v Speaker 1>She was Jamaican. She's amazing. And I think because it

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:53.119
<v Speaker 1>was so early and because it was just yeah, it

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.280
<v Speaker 1>was like euphoria. I never felt anything like that, Like

0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I felt like it was like cosmic and ship, right,

0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>my ship disappears into a woman and then like yeah,

0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>so that was that was the best. But I didn't

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:08.240
<v Speaker 1>even know what I was doing them, but it just

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.160
<v Speaker 1>felt like the best. We were listening to the Maxwell Ship,

0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, like love loving Basketball, don't

0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:23.760
<v Speaker 1>make you feel like it's the best, even though it's

0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:27.280
<v Speaker 1>not just a song. What I'm saying like so funny

0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:29.400
<v Speaker 1>because I think I lost my opportunity to that song

0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and I was probably like the best, said that was

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.359
<v Speaker 1>the best sex I ever had at the time. At

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:40.199
<v Speaker 1>the time, if you lost your virginity work, I was like,

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 1>when did you figure out what you were doing? Like,

0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, because there's always that moment you're like, I

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:51.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't this time. It took yeah, like ten years later,

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Like there's no way, Like even in uh in college,

0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like I was definitely thottish test in in college,

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and I mean the front of the first two years

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that that was my little run around, I still wasn't

0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 1>doing it right. It was it was year you know

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 1>what it was. I had to make the transition from

0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to just fuck too. Serving a woman's like actually

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.640
<v Speaker 1>focusing on the woman like so many because we grow

0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:26.200
<v Speaker 1>up on pulling. So many of us we come up

0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and like we think it's a hammer and a rabbit

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and the like move slower, move slower, move your hips,

0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like think about her, slow down if you need to,

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:43.679
<v Speaker 1>because don't come before her. Focus Like my whole mindset

0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>right now. When I'm with the woman and I go far,

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I imagine Chakras on her, like I try to imagine

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:55.119
<v Speaker 1>everything about how I can please her. So that that

0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 1>that switch took like easily ten years from being a

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.719
<v Speaker 1>young teenager and to my twenties, because you don't want

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to be on the blogs now and they'd be like,

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I as sextually was awful, Like he

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that. Yeah, I mean that's just inevitable. Somebody's

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna say something. What about the first time you ate pussy?

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that? Oh my god, I was terrible.

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:32.439
<v Speaker 1>I was. I'm way better now, but like, man, I didn't.

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>It didn't Again, you look at polling and sex that

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>so the way that what they're doing a point, it

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>just be it doesn't make sense. Like if I can

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>tell now that those women are probably tickled by the

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>way these guys are going down. At some point, I'm like, oh, yeah,

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:53.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not she's like laughing. She's laughing, like but I

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:57.920
<v Speaker 1>know she's laughing because it's actually ticklesh and not doing

0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a job. So she's like, I gotta keep together. Um,

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but this guy is terrible this ship. I didn't like

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it at first because I also thought like certain rappers

0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:12.479
<v Speaker 1>were saying they didn't need pussy and anything. Wayne really

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 1>pushed he loves eating and it helped me so much,

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:27.080
<v Speaker 1>So thank you little Muen. Well maybe it's all his raps.

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>That's it. He did, because if you look at rappers

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>before then, like a lot was like, yeah, I don't

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>eat that ship. It was like, now I don't go

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>down there. And then she she give me head, but

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't give her head. It was like hard and

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>then Wayne made a hard to eat so it took

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>me a while. And then you know what it is communication?

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Communication during the act. A lot of people don't want

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>to you just especially if you just meet somebody's a

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>little awkward to be like, but all you have to

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>do is like what you what do you like? And

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>tell me, tell me what go there, go there. You

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>have to ask and to the men that are watching

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>um and the women who have never eaten, you have

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>to ask, like what feels good consistently so that you know,

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise you're just gonna be guessing. And then you

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>don't like the person because it wasn't compatible. You feel

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>like it wasn't But no, it wasn't about compatibility. It

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>was about communications. Anybody I described somebody how to go

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>down on you, is it last pleasureable? Do you think?

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I think that it would be like me trying

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.879
<v Speaker 1>to focus too much, like the left to the right,

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.719
<v Speaker 1>little harder right there, Like instead of somebody that just

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>knows what they're doing, I think that people will know

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing. Some people know what they're doing in general,

0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.840
<v Speaker 1>but they everybody is a little different, Like you can't

0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>just apply every single woman. You know what I'm saying.

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.199
<v Speaker 1>So it may be less posible to you. Maybe you

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>just don't like talking too much because you just want

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to focus. But if you were with somebody knew you

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>can't like and I have no idea what relationship you're at,

0:26:11.400 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>what's your status is, But if you're with somebody, I'm

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>not nodding it's corone. I'm so, but there's five. There's

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>five of us on the show, and we all like

0:26:23.680 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>getting our pussy in different and I'm missing someone. Huh,

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it's four of us. It's four of us on the show.

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>This girl she had think that only day about d

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I love you between how you got y'all said, there's five, Well,

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>there's four. Yeah, I like different things. Yeah, what are

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>the differences? Um? Well, I don't like when people like thrust.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't like when people use their finger. At the

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.719
<v Speaker 1>same time, I like it like nice and gentle. I

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 1>always compare it to like a little kitten laughing some

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 1>milk out of a bowl, you know what. That's how

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Andrew's so funny. I like it really rough, Like I

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>like to get bit a little bit sucked really hard.

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm psycho. I just I don't mind a finger. I like, like,

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>I like variety of things, but like you have to

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>eat me out till I come, that's for sure. I

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>just feel like if you know what you're doing down there,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>because I've never had to be taught how to give head,

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Like nobody ever had to say to me, like that's

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>not what, that's not right doing, Like that's not for me.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I should like born with that knowledge if I was

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:55.679
<v Speaker 1>born as what they say about me. They're fair about me,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>they do Angela and step and they always say like

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I was born on how to give up. But I

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>just look at it like I know I didn't have

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to be taught, so you figure it out too, and like,

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't have no problem talking to you later, but

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.879
<v Speaker 1>not while we're having sex, like if I'm all talking

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>about as far as moaning or like saying your name

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, but if it's like I want you

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 1>to do it like this, unless it's like harder when

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>we're like like I'm about now. You know that's weird

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>to me because I already did it, Like what do

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to think? Do you think that it's it's

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>easier to like how did you learn how to give that?

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You study? You looked at you watch some point now

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>like okay, I've seen porn. I've seen porn obviously, and

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I just what I thought about it, honestly, is like

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>how would I want to feel? How would I wanted

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to feel my deck? Like yeah, I'm like I'm like

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>if I was a penis, how would I want to fail?

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>So my first thing was like cover your teeth because

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to scrape the teeth. And then everything

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>else I feel like, just flow like she came out

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>sucking on an umbilical coursebody like how somebody squirms, how

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 1>they moan like I feel like you just have to

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>listen to their body or you do. I feel like

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>guys different guys like to get their dicks up differently too, Yeah,

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>yeah we do, we do. You don't like use two hands,

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Some guys want you to just use on one hand.

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Someone they don't know what they want and tell them

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>they get it, you get what I'm saying, Like is

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the thing I feel like maybe because a man is

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>more like he's his whole, his body parts private out

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that big private jet, the African thing, but a woman

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>is inside I'm saying, she's you can't see everything, So

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering, like, because men are studying other men in porn,

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe they can't really see where their tongue is. They can't.

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>They don't other than the kitten licking the bowl, like, yeah,

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I can see that, but when you watch the woman

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>and point, you can see it. Like everything she's doing,

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>it's all out there and all and I wonder it's

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more difficult for us to learn because

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>we're like, you can't unless you had like this like

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>camera right up there watching every movement of the time.

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>But some of them are bad listeners. And if we

0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 1>say like it's about listening to the body, I feel

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>like they're just so busy worrying about what they want

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to do or like what they think is right, that

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>they don't, you know, communicate with your body, because at

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>times like that squirm is more like but they think

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you can tell the difference if you pay attention. I

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 1>don't like the way to eat pussy and porn. They

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 1>never know what the fun they're doing imporn. It doesn't

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>look like they're always like, uh, that's how you pussy.

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>The women's pussy better important than men do. Yeah, it's done.

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a good way to learn from a woman that

0:31:12.720 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the last episode of Insecure, East was upset about the

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 1>fact that she really like trained her dude Lawrence to

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>be in this new relationship that he's in now he's

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like a better guy. Was there a woman that trained you,

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>you think to be the man that you are today

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and you get credit to Definitely, Definitely I was in

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>a long term relationship with a woman who she really

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>shaped me, Like she took me from my like teenage

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 1>self into young adulthood. She she taught me cultural things

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like this simple ship, like I didn't know about wine.

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know, um like what I should do on

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the day. I was very shy. I come from being

0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like a very shy kid. And she would take me

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:00.120
<v Speaker 1>to advanced concerts which I've never been to. It I

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>was broke. She was paying for the ship. We would

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>go and she'd be like, yo, you need to put

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>yourself forward. That's the manager right there. That's the green

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>room where there. Let's talk to the security. Get yourself

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 1>in there. That's so and so, Like you need to

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>meet you know if it's like some o g rapper, like,

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>oh that's black thought right there, go talk to him

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and let her right. She was like, you bet we

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>still we still know, we're still great friends. Like that's

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>my best friend. So yeah, yeah, I have. I have

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>good relationship with with every woman that I've been with.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>To be honest, why didn't it work? I mean I

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>think you you grow and you find out, um that

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe I look at everything like the chemistry experiment, like

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>some some some people you just know the top you're

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like this other times, like you put two

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>substances together, they made chill for a second, but then

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>they boy all over over time. That's how that that's

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>how we were, like we we were too similar in

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>certain ways that we were cool. But you leave us

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in the pot too long, we're gonna keep button heads.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>But like that's that's that's the the O G best

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>friend and like your girls, Yeah she does, she does,

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and she'll tell me, like, what's great it is like

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I consult her, she consults me. I consult her. So

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 1>she's meeting a new guy SHO should or women. I'll

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, I know, you know, be careful because

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you have a habit of doing this. And then she'll

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>tell me like, yo, don't confuse um your business practices

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>with your relationship practices. I know how you like to

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>do that. So she she finds she's like a therapist

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>for me in certain ways, which prevents me from being

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>like this insecure I need therapy guy and placing that

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>on a new level. So like and insecure. Have you

0:33:56.600 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>ever um gone back to an X for like comfort,

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>because it seems like he got out of or he's

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>having a little bit of trouble in his situation and

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>he's it looks like he's running back to his act.

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>So have you ever ran back to an act and

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>actually end up going back to them? Oh? Yeah, that's

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>where I'm most savage, Like my, yeah, that's my My

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>funk ups in life are usually not in the relationship,

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>that in that gray area after the relationship. I'm I'm

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.439
<v Speaker 1>such I'm a determined person. So when she don't work,

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't get why it doesn't work. So I'll go

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>back and then you know, you get lonely and so

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you I'll go back and I'll try to and this

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 1>is where the manipulation comes in. That's the negative part

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of it. And I'll reel them in, make them trust

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like this could work, and I actually do believe it

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>in the moment, but there's a but there's a reason

0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>why I didn't work in the first place. It never

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>works out. And that's where it gets ugly because I'm

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:05.839
<v Speaker 1>dating people while I'm trying to reel and you know, yeah,

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>but I don't do this no more like I'm done.

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I got I realized I'm really good with black

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and white ship the agreement has got to be clear.

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>If it's not clear and as great, it's gonna be. Lady,

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>say you feel about a guy you're dating betting friends

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>with his ex and like, no, no, it's not happening.

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I can have sex with any of my exes right

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>now if I wanted to. Hell, you know, don't talk

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>to your ex girlfriend please for me, I feel like

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>this one. Once you've been my ex, we're not friends anymore.

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>That's it. So why would I let my man be

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>friends with his ex? It doesn't make any sense because

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 1>you're secure. You're secure if you If y'all was really

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>secure about about your partners, you wouldn't be worried about

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's not. I don't mean I trust

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>my man. I just don't trust the dirty slust that

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>he was with before me. You know what I'm saying now,

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I get with saying. I get what she's saying. But

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.439
<v Speaker 1>you feel I definitely feel you, But I just think

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>just the fact of um, just anything like for what

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>all y'all obviously broke up for a reason. It didn't work,

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So what are you doing? Like if y'all want to

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>be yeah, being corgeous if you have a kid together,

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 1>that's something else. But like being cordial is fine. But

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>as far as like I feel like being like really

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>tight friends, that's just weird to me. And I just

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>feel like maybe even a certain level of respect maybe

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>if I meet her or something like that. I don't know,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's just like what are you What are y'all doing?

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>What if she's like married or something already, why it's

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>weird to me that for me I had And I'm

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>not just talking about like women I dated. I'm talking

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 1>about women I really had a serious relationship with. If

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I invest in time with them, am I gonna just

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>throw them to the side, Like because you did that

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>with the relationship, that kind of relationship. I didn't want

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to throw them away as friends. To me, it also

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:04.480
<v Speaker 1>shows like what he how that how that person is

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>who could be towards you? Like you know what I'm saying.

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>You know with me, here's what you get, Here's what

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>you get with me. You know you know that I'm

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>still gonna be good to their families. I still take

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.879
<v Speaker 1>care of them. I still like I'm not going over

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>and holding them in my lap and doing the same things,

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>but at least I'm in touch I'll still face time

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 1>them and I know I know their their community, their

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>friend circle. I'm not gonna just throw them by the

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>wayside because that that that relationship meant something to me.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.320
<v Speaker 1>So if I'm with the woman now and she sees that, yeah,

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it maybe like damn, I hope he never goes back.

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.240
<v Speaker 1>But if she's secured with me, if I'm secured with myself,

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.439
<v Speaker 1>then then I think that it's all positive. It's it's

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing and she can. I know women that I've I've

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>dated who will then ask one of my ex is

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>about me? And and that's kind of what you know

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you see in insecure right now? Yeah, yeah, that's you

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>know you don't want to hear that story. I'm actually

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 1>right now. I want women to know everything about me

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>early on because eventually I want to form some sort

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>of union or marriage. And honestly, the quicker we can,

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:21.280
<v Speaker 1>we can get through all the trauma and all the yeah,

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>all the bullshit like just know me, Like no, you

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>can ask you anything. I feel like friends, you know,

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>access should be enemies, because then there's something wrong, there's

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>something there's something bad there. But you know, to be

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 1>speaking all the time. I mean, if you see challa, Hey,

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 1>what's up are you doing? No problem with that, but

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to have an ongoing relationship after you broke up, you

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:45.800
<v Speaker 1>might as well have stayed together. Well, what are you

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>worried about? I don't think it's even a wor thing. Girl,

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>It's so for me. I don't feel like it's necessarily

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a worried thing. But I just know, like I said,

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I know how my excess felt about me, or like

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had my like a ex the other day hit

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>me talking about something I love you, and it's like

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I had to block him because it's like, bro, Like

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>what if I moved on and had a whole another

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>relationship and now my man just seen that on the phone.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>You get what I'm trying to me? Yeah, that's me.

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what else I think to Like, I have

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a wreakingto I'm cool, but I respected they're in a relationship,

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and I never want the woman to feel uncomfortable. So

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I would like set some boundaries where I know, like, Okay,

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>he's in a relationship. I don't want anybody to think anything.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't want his girl to be upset. So I'll

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>check in, you know, if there's like an event, I

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>might invite you to my birthday. Pritay all good and

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like her, But I'm also not gonna be like

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>calling you at midnight. But that makes sense. But you

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>can't control people actions. So whether they're friends with their

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>ex or whatever, if they're gonna sunk, they're gonna suck

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody regardless. So it's not like I'm gonna dive myself

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>in front of a friendship. But I just know about temptations,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 1>and I know how it is when you know how

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>someone is in the bed or when you're getting lonely

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>and they're there for you and being close. It's just

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>a temptation factor and it's just kind of like if

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>it didn't work, let it go, feel like it doesn't count.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>If you suck your exit like it didn't count. That's

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I do that, and it's not still to the day.

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>But no, but yet, you know, for ther y'all know,

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>for the longest, I've always felt like that. But now

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 1>like I learned my lesson because of a situation that

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I had where I took back an act. But like

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I used to be like that. I used to be

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.680
<v Speaker 1>like you should have a sex. I used to give

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that advice out like you should have sex with your acts.

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>At least you're not adding a body or something like that, right,

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. But that's not that's not a good

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>way to think because you're still giving your energy to

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody that doesn't deserve it. So let me let me

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>ask you all this. So, so let me ask you

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>all this about the function way of of human beings. Right,

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think that people are hard wired for monogamy?

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I think when people get to a certain

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>age in it and it's like a lot of effort

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to try to do too much. I think people do.

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I know for myself, Like when I was younger, I'll

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 1>date several people, have a good time, But as you

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>get older and busier and you want to settle down.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just like the knowing that you have

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>this one person that you have to deal with, it

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>just feels better to me. I feel you you get like,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.399
<v Speaker 1>getting busy is a huge factor. Sorry, you you're about

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>to say something no, no, no, go go no. I

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>mean like, but even with that, you're you're you're trying

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to say that every like this person is enough to

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.240
<v Speaker 1>satisfy all your needs. Yeah, I feel that way also

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>because I just said like, I'm more about being probably comfortable.

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 1>If I decided to be with you now, then that

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>means that that's something real. When I was younger, I

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't take certain things into consideration. I just was having

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>a good time and like we could date for two

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 1>weeks and yeah my boyfriend. Now it's like, okay, we

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>have to date for a year before I feel like

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>that next. Yep, that's how I am for me. Once

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you have sex with me, you're my boyfriend. That's it.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Like sex not your mind. Now you come on. I

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like I feel like I feel like God has

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a very funny sense of people, Marie. He made women

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>more intuing monogamy and manner like what what I want

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to be with everybody? I don't feel like all men

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>are like that. Mendo like that more monogamist and we

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>are women not to not to death. But I'm saying

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>some of the I'm actually I'm great at monogamy. Okay, yes,

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the longest eight years Okay that it was like some

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>marriage ship and I never cheated in eight years. Wow,

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. So you could be with one person married

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and no one else and that could be your hall.

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, I don't know. I don't know. I

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know anymore I do. I do know this, like

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>when i'm if I commit in monogamy not cheating, like

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never cheated my life, I don't and I don't

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>think I would. But but when I think about marriage

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>long term and so that do us part, that's that

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>just sounds right for failure, Like it just it doesn't

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you grow, You evolved the same person that you marry,

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:29.879
<v Speaker 1>the same person that you met when you dated, when

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you fell in love. It is not the person that

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be with over the years. Like people change

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 1>months a month, people change year to year for sure,

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and ask people evolved, you can't expect them to be

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 1>locked into some agreement. So to me, I want to

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 1>be with a woman who can evolve over time, and

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it's okay with a little bit of uncertainty down the

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>line initially foundation develop it. I actually I don't have

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>time to be running around with a million women. I

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 1>don't want to anymore. And honestly, I never really was

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that guy anyway. I would love to lock something down.

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I just know that over time, like the agreement has

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to change. I believe in agreements, so say and I

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>actually don't care about certain things. I don't care if

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 1>a woman I'm with is gonna occasionally make make out

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:26.879
<v Speaker 1>with somebody. I really don't care. Oh my god. I mean,

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>look if she you know, if she has that, I

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>try to stay away. But to me, I'm not mad

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>at that. I'm not mad at if she if she's

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>an amazing woman and I'm feeling it like whatever, I

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>really I'm open to certain things like it just does.

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter every every time. I don't need you

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to be a standard orthodox person. That's the thing. As

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>long as we can come up with a deal. Even

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool, I can see me down the line being

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>with a woman with even if it's my wife, and

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>striking an agreement where she can be with other men

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>as well. Like I don't. I'm not tripping off that

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't kill me. What I care about is

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that we hold each other down. We we support each other,

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>We're there when we need. We know that none of

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>these other relationships are as strong as ours, y'all. I

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know if y'all watch House of Cars when it

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>was popping um, and you know their relationship was weird,

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the Underwood family. But no other relationship that they had

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>because they were like polyamorous, Um, no other relationship could

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.839
<v Speaker 1>penetrate there for most of the shame. And that's that's

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:44.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of how I look at it. No matter what

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>the foundation is the foundation. But I do feel like

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 1>sometimes there's always signs of weakness where you feel like, um,

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe the other relationships starts to make you feel better

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:57.360
<v Speaker 1>than that one. And I think that's where a woman

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it's always gonna feel away about, because that's kind of

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>like when a woman brings another woman into the bed

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.840
<v Speaker 1>for a threesome and it's like, okay, I want to

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>three something, you want to three some cool, Now we

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.439
<v Speaker 1>do the threesome, and then what happens. Then man goes

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>out and impregnates the girl on the side, and you

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 1>know something like that, all the women falls in love

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 1>with too. Yeah, but nine times out of turn, it's

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.399
<v Speaker 1>always the man that messes up, goes behind the back

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and ends up getting the side check, or the threesome

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>girl pregnant or it's sucking her behind the back. So

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's what the problem is. I don't think it's ever

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 1>that women will look at it like we won't ever

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 1>accept something like that. I think it's like when it

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to things like that and you're like, all right,

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 1>well say you kiss somebody cool, I don't know about it.

0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Next thing you know she's your wife too, then that's

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.399
<v Speaker 1>a problem, you know what I mean. And I don't

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.799
<v Speaker 1>know if that's the conversation here having with them, like

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna be somebody that I fun here and there,

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 1>or is it like I'm getting another girlfriend, I'm getting

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>another wife. You know what I mean? You gotta I

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 1>think you got up front as well as possible. That's

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the main thing. One thing I found out is if

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you can be upfront, women are much more not like

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to not like they're gonna agree with everything, but they're

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>much more open than You never know what a woman

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>will are. She might be like I'm down that I'd

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:21.359
<v Speaker 1>rather know, or or she'll be like, look, I'm glad

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>you told me that, but I don't ever want to know.

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 1>And make sure there's a week in between anybody and

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>only on the road and don't fall up. That's very specific.

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Now I would be like, you can't eat her pussy,

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 1>that would be a rule, and you have to wear

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.879
<v Speaker 1>a condom. Like to me, those are more and more

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a rule than anything. Yeah, I feel you feel relationships. Man. No,

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I'm okay with that, but I'm saying

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 1>if those were more so something that somebody laid out

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>other than I'm just going behind your back and cheating

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:06.439
<v Speaker 1>on you, at least they're giving you. Yeah, I agree

0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 1>with and you can't buy have a no kiss and

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you can't buy. But I think also getting tested. You

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>have to get tested within like a certain range too,

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, I've obviously worked out in agreements and

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.919
<v Speaker 1>I made sure the worst the worst thing to do

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is the worst feeling to have is feeling like you

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>put a woman's body and health at right and she

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't know it. That's the first thing we say to Yeah, yeah,

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I've always made sure to get tested and and that's

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:44.320
<v Speaker 1>how you know what I mean, I've remained disease free. Um. Yeah,

0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it is now last question before because I know you

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>know we're almost at an hour. This is only supposed

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to be half an hour. But what would rules be

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:53.479
<v Speaker 1>if a woman could see other men? Like, what would

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you tell her the rules out for her to be

0:48:55.160 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>able to do that. Here's a little trick this is

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I've noticed that the more open, and I am the

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:10.319
<v Speaker 1>less the woman wants to go out and be with

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>a million people. If I'm like, yo, I here's what

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I care about. UM, I only care about that you're

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>you're safe, you get tested. UM, if you start to

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 1>have developed feelings, just tell me early, like I'd rather

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>have that early. I just want to know up front. Um,

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I actually like to know. I like to know the guy. Wow. Yeah,

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 1>and that might that might be some control ship, to

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.399
<v Speaker 1>be honest, like, that might be some territory ship. What

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>did he see you? I didn't know? Yeah, sounds like that.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a reverse psychology. That's how you back. I

0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:09.279
<v Speaker 1>preface it's a little, but my rules are simple, like

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I just don't I would like I feel confident in

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and me and me and her. I know that what

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>how I am, I'm unique enough for her and she's

0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>unique enough for me. So I'm not really threatened by

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>by anybody. UM. I just needed I just needed to

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>be safe and I needed to not be UM like

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know. I want to know what it is.

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 1>So if it's developing into something more than just casual

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 1>sex or something just like, protect my heart, don't just

0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>protect my body. Protect my heart on movie dates and

0:50:43.520 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 1>watching Insecure together. Yeah, TikTok Yea said, I think honestly

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.799
<v Speaker 1>on the front end is everything. But here's the thing

0:51:03.800 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>about honestly on the front end, it takes something Like

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, it takes kind of process. I realized, like,

0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>and if you date like an introvert, it's even worse

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:17.280
<v Speaker 1>because they won't even tell you for for months and months.

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.320
<v Speaker 1>And so I I used to do this thing in

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:22.360
<v Speaker 1>relationships that I got from this book called the Spirit

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of Intimacy where every month we would have this ritual together,

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like we put candles in the circle would be bass

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:43.359
<v Speaker 1>naked um back to back, and we would lay out, Yeah,

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do that. So once you give your sacrament

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 1>and ancestors, you talk about your relationship and you talk

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>about things that you made. Uh, it's a safe space

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.520
<v Speaker 1>basically for y'all to to express this. So that way,

0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 1>every month, no matter what, y'all have a space where

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>y'all communicate. And that when I did that, my relationships

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>were so strong. And when I failed to do that,

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that's when things got weak because that resentment starts growing

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 1>because y'all, y'all say some things that happened halfway through

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the month, So I think putting, yeah, putting those practices

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>in a huge relationships, especially if you're dating the introver.

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, we appreciate that. That sounds really good.

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.399
<v Speaker 1>You didn't naked invent your candles. In a second, he's

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:36.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, Jamnie, I just wanted to talk about

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that should be your next listening session, like just everybody

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.719
<v Speaker 1>sit in the room but naked, like listen to the

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 1>album the last night. Well, Stanner, we appreciate you so

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>much and I always appreciate your honesty and fund conversations.

0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>So we'll be following and making sure we tune in

0:52:59.640 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 1>to your page right now to here everything you're talking about.

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 1>And you have your book club. I was telling you

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I have a book club too, so you know I

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 1>love that. So we'll do a complation. Yeah, we might

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 1>do that. I might bring you on os is called

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the Lit Review Black Men's book Club hosted Body Intoxicated

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Uncle's Um. So I would love I would love to

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:19.760
<v Speaker 1>have you on for sure. So thank you for bringing

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>me on the lip service. Thank you all for keeping

0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>it a hundred and lying. I mean, uh, but I

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 1>wish you'll will with your partners and your lovers. You know,

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which y'all got quarantine bays, but I

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:34.360
<v Speaker 1>wish you will. Yes, Thank you,