1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: What's up? What's time? It is? Let's service at me 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: and Lage. I'm stup in Santiago. I'm glariow Ntanna. That's 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: your what's up? Y'all? Listen, we're all at home. And 4 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: he just said he just had the bubble guts. He's 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: in salad. This is cool coffee, Wow, I said, don't. Yeah, 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: it's more like toss the coffee. They got this cool 7 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: little coffee shop that's still open. Why I don't know, 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: but is it really? Well, my juice bar is still open, 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: and that's considered, and it said, I guess food places 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: as long as you take it to go things like that, 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: it can still stay open. Yeah, your juice bar is 12 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: like legit essential though, all right, any anything with health 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: products right now is essential. So yeah, so now we 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: are appreciative of that. So, and we're appreciative of you. 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: To Jenna, we start, you've been doing all kinds of 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: fun things online since this coronavirus pandemic has started, you know, 17 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: just making sure you stay in touch with people. Yeah. 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: I mean as soon as this this ship hit, I knew, like, okay, 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a while a lot of people are like, yeah, 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna be out for a few weeks. I was like, Nah, 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a few months at least, and it's 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: gonna affect everybody, you know, especially as artists. We have 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: to find new ways to connect. You don't got events, 24 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: we don't have festivals. We can't tour for at least 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: a year. So I was like, all right, for me, 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: let me be more active online than ever before. Everybody's 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: doing that finding the ways. You have these characters that 28 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: you have to Um, you then broke out the Afrow. 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: You then broke out of Boston accent. Yeah. Yeah, and 30 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: you have done a lot of some acting. Do you 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: have anything coming up in the future that you may 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: be doing a little bit more acting on? So I 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: got stuck in a late because which is a great 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: place to be. I'm glad, I'm grateful I'm here. But 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: I came for auditions, but a lot of them obviously 36 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: have not transpired, and like the last two months, um so, 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, I got all 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: these characters from being around different neighborhoods of my whole life, 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: and so Cheaper Company is a show where we we 40 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: me so Charlie, Charlie. It was Sugarie Joe obviously is 41 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: seventies a guy. He was actually wearing this this best 42 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: I got from my homie um. And the second character 43 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: was Charlie of Cyrus, which is like a Boston hotel. 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: He's from. Think about Boston people don't really black and 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: brown people don't talk the way like all the Walberg 46 00:02:54,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: films sound like, unless they live in the suburbs. So 47 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: so I because that accident is funny, and I was like, 48 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: let me take a Boston suburban black person and make 49 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: him a hotel, you know what I mean, because it 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: doesn't that's not usually our hoteps talk. How do Brooklyn 51 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: people talk? Brooklyn people where we're we're in Brooklyn. Let's say, 52 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do no best stop because I'm I 53 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: live in East Flatbush. But there you go. That's yeah, 54 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Flatbush? You know you know 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: what ship is out here? You know, you know, you know, 56 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: but that ship that's ship busting, you know what I mean. 57 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: It's just everything is here. It's like it's it's it's 58 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: small cone because we're in the bush, like Flatbush zombies. 59 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's all like at least where we are, 60 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: it's all the weed, the weed dealers that we had 61 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: that people as low key kids. I'm in the thirties. 62 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: When you start going to nineties, is that Brownsville, it's 63 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: a whole different like the nineties has been, Like that's 64 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: so deep. Now you really have real music right now, 65 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Like that's that's why drill music is coming out of 66 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: certain spots. It's where it's least gentrified, and that's why 67 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you get like it's like, is really doing drills right now? 68 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: It's not. They're so deep in it. It's like they 69 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: ain't even been on the internet. Like the way they talked, 70 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: it's like wow, Like it reminds me of old New 71 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: York and I appreciate it so much, like we haven't 72 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: had nothing like that for years. But we also appreciate we' 73 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: hearing on your music on Insecure. We know you have 74 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: the song things where that came on last night's episode 75 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: and we are big, big fans of the show as well. 76 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: So it's your playing this fire, Yeah, it's you. It's 77 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: lame things the way to people like what it is 78 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: for people who don't know about energy and stuff. Yeah, 79 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: and your what's your name? Marie Condo? That her last 80 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: name y'all know, I'm talking about the she I want 81 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: to believe. I believe that she's from Japan. I know 82 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: she's East Asian and she has a show on Netflix 83 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: about tidying up your spot. Y'all know I haven't seen 84 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: it neither, but you let me. This is a great 85 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: time for people to figure out how to clean up 86 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: their energy. But go ahead, okay. Um. So, punctual is 87 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: this idea that if you clean up your space and 88 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of be more of a minimalist, especially with furniture, 89 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: then there's a natural airflow and the natural flow in 90 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: your place that will create life in your environment. But 91 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: I was using it in terms of design, like style, 92 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: how you feel, um, the functuate your mind. I was 93 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: taking functually out of this furniture, and I made this 94 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 1: dance record, like an Afro func slash hip hop dance 95 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: record called punctuay Um. It's not like Super Deep or 96 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: nothing like that, but it's just for right now. For 97 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: people just need to be liberated. They need to feel light, 98 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: they need to feel like they're going outside. I don't 99 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: know where y'all stationed, but I'm in Atlanta in Jersey. 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't need to interrupt me. But I have to 101 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: say this. This is the first time that I moved 102 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: into an apartment. I didn't really rush to furnish it. 103 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: And the energy in here is so it's it's been 104 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: amazing for me. I've had the best luck ever. I 105 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: didn't put a mirror in my bedroom and everything's been 106 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: going really well. No, because I haven't. I swear my 107 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: my living room is like a photo studio and it's 108 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: just so airy, and I feel like there's the energy 109 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: in here is amazing, So don't fill it up. Like no, 110 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: I think something. You need to watch this nex. I 111 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: really I can't. I'm blanking on the name, but I 112 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: think I got it right. She would she she comes 113 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: into the space and she like she praised in it, 114 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: in your in your house, and she comes to the 115 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: space of like hoarding people. So she comes and kneels down, 116 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: like gives herself to the space and then she just 117 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: gets rid of all your ship. So you, just like 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: Angela would die. I already know I'm a hoarder. I'm 119 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: a hoarder. See the bar in the books right there, 120 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: which is clean, but I'm imagining all the stuff that's 121 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: not in frame right now, do you know what, what's 122 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: your record? I felt like when even when you put 123 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: the record on, because like I played it and I 124 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: was playing it like back to back, and out of nowhere, 125 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: you just started dancing, and I'm like, what am I 126 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: doing right here? Looks like you're you dance right and 127 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: you're the because you had a lot of women that 128 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you had dancing on you and that you were dancing 129 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 1: went and that was going viral. So could you have 130 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: a relationship with a woman that can't dance as well 131 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: as you? M good questions? Wow, that's the question. No, 132 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't learn one one. I don't think I'm not 133 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: like an amazing dancer, but I feel like it's it's 134 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: kind of like everything like cooking, right, I couldn't be 135 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: with a woman who can't cook, but I could be 136 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 1: with a woman who doesn't cook. Like it's just weird 137 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: for me, is like a human being to not really 138 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: know how to cook. I don't care if you're into that. 139 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: And now I'm not one of those guys all the 140 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: time at least. Yeah, yeah, I just know it's like 141 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: a basic thing, like what is she's really good at 142 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: ordering food for you? And it always knows what you like, 143 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: really good at Yeah, what is she gonna like? I 144 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: know he's gonna love this. Cook this on the side. 145 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Does that with us, right, Stephanie, I can't cook. I 146 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: can't cook. That's what I'm saying. You can cook, but 147 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: you don't like I can cook. I'm not cooking, like 148 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: even now, Like I have meal plan, which is such 149 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: a it sounds like the most the most luxurious thing 150 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: to have in a global pandemic right now. But but yeah, 151 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: I just don't with dancing, you have to be able to, 152 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: like at least move a little bit, because then, you 153 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't know if you can 154 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: in the bedroom, but I don't need you to dance 155 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: like all the cool dances like function. I bet you 156 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: aren't even like dancing the regular dances. A little tooth, 157 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: that little one, yeah, a little something, you're okay, you 158 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: know she don't got a boom cat all over a 159 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: little group. She started popping. That's a little I gotta 160 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: call you out on something that you said, okay about 161 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: lying in you did admit a liar, and a woman 162 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: asked you about that and you said I had to. 163 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, it kind of was conflicting because 164 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: she asked you about lying, and a liar would have said, no, 165 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't lie, but you, being an honest liar that 166 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: you are, said I have to let you know I 167 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: am been a lot to you. Yeah, the verbatim, I said, 168 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a hundred. I am gonna say 169 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: a lie to you, like at some point, I'm not 170 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: saying that I'm a liar. I'm just saying or whatever, 171 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: maybe I am. He said you was a manipulator, though 172 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I have been gonna get into that. Everybody says, oh no, 173 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: and all of you are me being a hundred of 174 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 1: saying I'm going to lie, is me being honest. Nobody 175 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: does not lie in as soon as you enter a relationship, 176 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: you're already in a lie because you're like, oh, I'm 177 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: going to only give my all, only be attractive to you, 178 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: or only one to ever be with you. It's already 179 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: already a lot like look all right now, like right, somebody, Now, 180 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: let me tell you. The first line by a mass 181 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: manipulator is always I'm gonna keep it one hunted. As 182 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 1: soon as that to you, you know there's a manipulation 183 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: coming in. You know what I mean, but but but 184 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: they never say that, you know a lot like that's 185 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the thing. I'm just being. I don't want to what 186 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm in a point in life. I don't want to 187 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: make a promise I can't keep, So I'm not gonna 188 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: tell you forever, I'm not gonna lie. There's always little 189 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: white lies at very least if not, you know sometimes Okay, 190 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: well let's get some examples. Let's just say that you 191 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: and your lady are you guys are already out right 192 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: on a date. Nothing she could do about it at 193 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: this point, and she's like, does this outfit make me 194 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: look back? And it kind of does, right, You've seen 195 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: her wear more flattering things for her figure. Would you 196 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: answer that question? I would lie, for sure, that's a 197 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: perfect answer. But there's no way I'm going to tell 198 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: her the truth. There's this movie called The Inventional Lie 199 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: where like it takes place before humans figured out lie, 200 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: like how to a lie? And so is hilarious, But 201 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: people would answer that question like for real and honestly, 202 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: and it's just not worth it, Like why would I 203 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: make it feel that way? Way to get her to change? 204 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: Before you leave the house? Did you put that up? Yeah? 205 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: A good way a good way to have to mention it. 206 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can be honest in the crib, 207 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: but you know you can be like, Yo, have you 208 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: remember that dress you for, you know, our last anniversary? 209 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: I kind of I'm feeling that really, Oh you think 210 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: I look, yeah, I love that one. I just love 211 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: you can just and that and I don't know where 212 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: it were. It's still But that's that's the good. That's manipulation. Ship. 213 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: I didn't I tell people this. I'm not a liar, 214 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna tell on myself, So you just 215 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: avoid it. You're a deceiver, but I just telling myself. 216 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: So you can't be honest. You can't completely completely be 217 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: honest all the time. Everybody lies a little something and 218 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: then and then, and then there's also where you have 219 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: to process some ships. So like something happens, you feel 220 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of way, but you don't know how to approach it. 221 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: So you end up deceiving a person not telling them 222 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: maybe for a week or two, and then you come 223 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: back and they're like, yeah, why don't you tell me 224 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: in the first place? And you're like, I had to 225 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: process it, but the whole time process and you weren't 226 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: telling the person anything, so like this, this is what 227 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, it's we all manipulate, we all deceive, 228 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: all lie And I don't think it's always terrible. I 229 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: think that's there's that it's actually a value of mine. 230 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: There's like little white lies, and then there's harmful lies. Right, 231 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: it's to this line. So let me ask you this. 232 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: You're dating a girl and she asked you, do you 233 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: think my friend looks better than me? And she does it, 234 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: then it's live live. No, Well, if I think her 235 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: friend looks better than her, then maybe I should be 236 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: dating a friend. I agree, Like, she can give me 237 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: your number, because I'm like, if if there's I don't 238 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: want to date a woman within a friend circle that 239 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm not most attracted to, there may be a woman 240 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: who's like traditionally pretty, she looked fly, like great, cool, 241 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: But I should be more attractive to my woman. What 242 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: if you didn't meet her friends till later? Though? You 243 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: know how sometimes you meet a girl and then you're like, damn, 244 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: I should have dated her friend. That is true, that 245 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: definitely happening. That's definitely happened. And then when you then 246 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: you feel bad in your whole mind. Yeah, already I 247 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been at that. I should have waited the 248 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: early early thought happen. Yeah, uh, you know whatever, it's 249 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: all good. And also you know, y'all, y'all know I 250 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: don't like I'm open to both monogamy and polyamory. So yes, 251 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's always you know, nobody are nowadays 252 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: right and men. It's actually it's women, and especially in Brooklyn. 253 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: Brooklyn is where I learned all this. I'm from there too. 254 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: I ain't learned that ship neither. You know what No, 255 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: you slap, but that's like that's like best side all 256 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: the way for you for Green East, Flatbush and Easter 257 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: doesn't like CANNOSTI I don't know what that word means 258 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: right now, but in the in the hipster areas that 259 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: she started coming in California and ship and in infiltrated 260 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. But I'm telling you there was a lot 261 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: of women. Women put me on the shippulated right now 262 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: because we are being manipulated. But what is even your type? 263 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: I want to know what your type is, like, what 264 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: type of woman? Like man? It varies like uh, it veries, 265 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: It depends on the space I'm in, Like when I 266 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: was younger. I only dated hood rats for a minute. 267 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: Swear like if you if you didn't have like a 268 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: gold tooth, and like like seven taxs and and hoop 269 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: earrings with your name in it. I wasn't dating that 270 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: was that was early on. And then then I got 271 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: into like the mystic gypsy kind of women and that 272 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: we're like would vacuum their house and then bust stage 273 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: out while listening to trap music. That whole means um 274 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: that now now, And I said this like I've been 275 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: saying this all week because it's something I really realized recently. 276 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm just looking for a kind of kind 277 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: of women, Like women in general, to me, are are 278 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: more thoughtful than men. But I used to put your 279 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: sophistication and your streets above kindness, and now I put 280 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: kindness above those you want basically like a mystic kind hardress. 281 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah perfect, that sounds perfect. Yeah, actually that's it. I 282 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: would take that any day, like you need to be no, 283 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like hard. Three is hard. Three is three 284 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: is hard. I just need her to be in different 285 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: spaces because I'm not. I'm not. I don't live in 286 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: one world I live in like I'll get bored I 287 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: get bored with women who only know like I date 288 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: like a business professional, corporate woman who talks like this 289 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: and use the shirt lips like you know, like that's cool. 290 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna be there in that world the 291 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: whole time. So when we go to the nineties in Brooklyn, 292 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: can you are you okay? You adapt? Are you comfortable? 293 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't need you to dreak, but yeah, you see 294 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: you see one fire, you see some pill, you see something, 295 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, we're gonna get yeah, relaxed, 296 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: like it's okay, and vice versa, Like I can't take 297 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: somebody some of the women I used to date to 298 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: some of these like galas, they're just not gonna survive. 299 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: All right, now, let me ask this back to the 300 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: line thing. Let's just say and asked you, is this 301 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: the best pussy you ever had? And it's really not. 302 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: It's trash. Are you gonna tell her? Yes? As a 303 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: matter of fact, you have to fake with orgasm? Oh damn, damn, 304 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't think how did how does it? He just 305 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: stopped you? I know how he does know? How? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 306 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: you know. Earlier today I had to get it in 307 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: myself you had a rub one out before, so you 308 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: know right now if you see you know that's why 309 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: you don't see nothing coming out of me. But God, 310 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: you never just pretended that you came, but you didn't. No, 311 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think men pretend like I don't. 312 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I guarantee you they have do. Yes, we've 313 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: had men on lips every day that you think that 314 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: they pretended. Yeah, I never, I never. I need put 315 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: that in my arsenal now I never did that. That's 316 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: a tool. Okay, No, I mean the best pussy I 317 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: ever had. I have to tell her that, Yeah, are 318 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: you gonna lie? Are you gonna tell the truth? Yeoh? 319 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: If she put me on the spot, I might. I might. 320 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: I might tell the truth. I know I know myself 321 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: because after I'd be like, and she said something much 322 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: the best pussy you ever had? I'd been like, uh, 323 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: I mean, who was the best pussy that you ever had? Like? 324 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: What was the experience? Like? Do you remember I was young? Yo, 325 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: I was a teenager, Like I had a high school sweetheart. 326 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: She was Jamaican. She's amazing. And I think because it 327 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: was so early and because it was just yeah, it 328 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: was like euphoria. I never felt anything like that, Like 329 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: I felt like it was like cosmic and ship, right, 330 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: my ship disappears into a woman and then like yeah, 331 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: so that was that was the best. But I didn't 332 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: even know what I was doing them, but it just 333 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: felt like the best. We were listening to the Maxwell Ship, 334 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like love loving Basketball, don't 335 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: make you feel like it's the best, even though it's 336 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: not just a song. What I'm saying like so funny 337 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: because I think I lost my opportunity to that song 338 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: and I was probably like the best, said that was 339 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: the best sex I ever had at the time. At 340 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: the time, if you lost your virginity work, I was like, 341 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: when did you figure out what you were doing? Like, 342 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, because there's always that moment you're like, I 343 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't this time. It took yeah, like ten years later, 344 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: Like there's no way, Like even in uh in college, 345 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: I was like I was definitely thottish test in in college, 346 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: and I mean the front of the first two years 347 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: that that was my little run around, I still wasn't 348 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: doing it right. It was it was year you know 349 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: what it was. I had to make the transition from 350 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: trying to just fuck too. Serving a woman's like actually 351 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: focusing on the woman like so many because we grow 352 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: up on pulling. So many of us we come up 353 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: and like we think it's a hammer and a rabbit 354 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: and the like move slower, move slower, move your hips, 355 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: like think about her, slow down if you need to, 356 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: because don't come before her. Focus Like my whole mindset 357 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: right now. When I'm with the woman and I go far, 358 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: I imagine Chakras on her, like I try to imagine 359 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: everything about how I can please her. So that that 360 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: that switch took like easily ten years from being a 361 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: young teenager and to my twenties, because you don't want 362 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: to be on the blogs now and they'd be like, 363 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, I as sextually was awful, Like he 364 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: don't believe that. Yeah, I mean that's just inevitable. Somebody's 365 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna say something. What about the first time you ate pussy? 366 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Oh my god, I was terrible. 367 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: I was. I'm way better now, but like, man, I didn't. 368 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: It didn't Again, you look at polling and sex that 369 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: so the way that what they're doing a point, it 370 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: just be it doesn't make sense. Like if I can 371 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: tell now that those women are probably tickled by the 372 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: way these guys are going down. At some point, I'm like, oh, yeah, 373 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: that's not she's like laughing. She's laughing, like but I 374 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: know she's laughing because it's actually ticklesh and not doing 375 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: a job. So she's like, I gotta keep together. Um, 376 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: but this guy is terrible this ship. I didn't like 377 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: it at first because I also thought like certain rappers 378 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 1: were saying they didn't need pussy and anything. Wayne really 379 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: pushed he loves eating and it helped me so much, 380 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: So thank you little Muen. Well maybe it's all his raps. 381 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: That's it. He did, because if you look at rappers 382 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: before then, like a lot was like, yeah, I don't 383 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: eat that ship. It was like, now I don't go 384 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: down there. And then she she give me head, but 385 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: I don't give her head. It was like hard and 386 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: then Wayne made a hard to eat so it took 387 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: me a while. And then you know what it is communication? 388 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: Communication during the act. A lot of people don't want 389 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: to you just especially if you just meet somebody's a 390 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: little awkward to be like, but all you have to 391 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: do is like what you what do you like? And 392 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: tell me, tell me what go there, go there. You 393 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: have to ask and to the men that are watching 394 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: um and the women who have never eaten, you have 395 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: to ask, like what feels good consistently so that you know, 396 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: because otherwise you're just gonna be guessing. And then you 397 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: don't like the person because it wasn't compatible. You feel 398 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: like it wasn't But no, it wasn't about compatibility. It 399 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: was about communications. Anybody I described somebody how to go 400 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: down on you, is it last pleasureable? Do you think? 401 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Because I think that it would be like me trying 402 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: to focus too much, like the left to the right, 403 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: little harder right there, Like instead of somebody that just 404 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: knows what they're doing, I think that people will know 405 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Some people know what they're doing in general, 406 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: but they everybody is a little different, Like you can't 407 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: just apply every single woman. You know what I'm saying. 408 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: So it may be less posible to you. Maybe you 409 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: just don't like talking too much because you just want 410 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: to focus. But if you were with somebody knew you 411 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: can't like and I have no idea what relationship you're at, 412 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: what's your status is, But if you're with somebody, I'm 413 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: not nodding it's corone. I'm so, but there's five. There's 414 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: five of us on the show, and we all like 415 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: getting our pussy in different and I'm missing someone. Huh, 416 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: it's four of us. It's four of us on the show. 417 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: This girl she had think that only day about d 418 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: I love you between how you got y'all said, there's five, Well, 419 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: there's four. Yeah, I like different things. Yeah, what are 420 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: the differences? Um? Well, I don't like when people like thrust. 421 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't like when people use their finger. At the 422 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: same time, I like it like nice and gentle. I 423 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: always compare it to like a little kitten laughing some 424 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: milk out of a bowl, you know what. That's how 425 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: Andrew's so funny. I like it really rough, Like I 426 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: like to get bit a little bit sucked really hard. 427 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm psycho. I just I don't mind a finger. I like, like, 428 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: I like variety of things, but like you have to 429 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: eat me out till I come, that's for sure. I 430 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: just feel like if you know what you're doing down there, 431 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: because I've never had to be taught how to give head, 432 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Like nobody ever had to say to me, like that's 433 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: not what, that's not right doing, Like that's not for me. 434 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: I should like born with that knowledge if I was 435 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: born as what they say about me. They're fair about me, 436 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: they do Angela and step and they always say like 437 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: I was born on how to give up. But I 438 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: just look at it like I know I didn't have 439 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: to be taught, so you figure it out too, and like, 440 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't have no problem talking to you later, but 441 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: not while we're having sex, like if I'm all talking 442 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: about as far as moaning or like saying your name 443 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but if it's like I want you 444 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: to do it like this, unless it's like harder when 445 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: we're like like I'm about now. You know that's weird 446 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: to me because I already did it, Like what do 447 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: you want to think? Do you think that it's it's 448 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: easier to like how did you learn how to give that? 449 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: You study? You looked at you watch some point now 450 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: like okay, I've seen porn. I've seen porn obviously, and 451 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: I just what I thought about it, honestly, is like 452 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: how would I want to feel? How would I wanted 453 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: to feel my deck? Like yeah, I'm like I'm like 454 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: if I was a penis, how would I want to fail? 455 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: So my first thing was like cover your teeth because 456 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to scrape the teeth. And then everything 457 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: else I feel like, just flow like she came out 458 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: sucking on an umbilical coursebody like how somebody squirms, how 459 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: they moan like I feel like you just have to 460 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: listen to their body or you do. I feel like 461 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: guys different guys like to get their dicks up differently too, Yeah, 462 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: yeah we do, we do. You don't like use two hands, 463 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: Some guys want you to just use on one hand. 464 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: Someone they don't know what they want and tell them 465 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: they get it, you get what I'm saying, Like is 466 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: the thing I feel like maybe because a man is 467 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: more like he's his whole, his body parts private out 468 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: that big private jet, the African thing, but a woman 469 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: is inside I'm saying, she's you can't see everything, So 470 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, because men are studying other men in porn, 471 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: maybe they can't really see where their tongue is. They can't. 472 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: They don't other than the kitten licking the bowl, like, yeah, 473 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: I can see that, but when you watch the woman 474 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: and point, you can see it. Like everything she's doing, 475 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: it's all out there and all and I wonder it's 476 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult for us to learn because 477 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: we're like, you can't unless you had like this like 478 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: camera right up there watching every movement of the time. 479 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: But some of them are bad listeners. And if we 480 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: say like it's about listening to the body, I feel 481 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: like they're just so busy worrying about what they want 482 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: to do or like what they think is right, that 483 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: they don't, you know, communicate with your body, because at 484 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: times like that squirm is more like but they think 485 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: you can tell the difference if you pay attention. I 486 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: don't like the way to eat pussy and porn. They 487 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: never know what the fun they're doing imporn. It doesn't 488 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: look like they're always like, uh, that's how you pussy. 489 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: The women's pussy better important than men do. Yeah, it's done. 490 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: It's a good way to learn from a woman that 491 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: the last episode of Insecure, East was upset about the 492 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: fact that she really like trained her dude Lawrence to 493 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: be in this new relationship that he's in now he's 494 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: like a better guy. Was there a woman that trained you, 495 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: you think to be the man that you are today 496 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: and you get credit to Definitely, Definitely I was in 497 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: a long term relationship with a woman who she really 498 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: shaped me, Like she took me from my like teenage 499 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: self into young adulthood. She she taught me cultural things 500 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: like this simple ship, like I didn't know about wine. 501 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know, um like what I should do on 502 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: the day. I was very shy. I come from being 503 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: like a very shy kid. And she would take me 504 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: to advanced concerts which I've never been to. It I 505 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: was broke. She was paying for the ship. We would 506 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: go and she'd be like, yo, you need to put 507 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: yourself forward. That's the manager right there. That's the green 508 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: room where there. Let's talk to the security. Get yourself 509 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: in there. That's so and so, Like you need to 510 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: meet you know if it's like some o g rapper, like, 511 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: oh that's black thought right there, go talk to him 512 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: and let her right. She was like, you bet we 513 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: still we still know, we're still great friends. Like that's 514 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: my best friend. So yeah, yeah, I have. I have 515 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: good relationship with with every woman that I've been with. 516 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: To be honest, why didn't it work? I mean I 517 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: think you you grow and you find out, um that 518 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: maybe I look at everything like the chemistry experiment, like 519 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: some some some people you just know the top you're 520 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: gonna be like this other times, like you put two 521 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: substances together, they made chill for a second, but then 522 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: they boy all over over time. That's how that that's 523 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: how we were, like we we were too similar in 524 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: certain ways that we were cool. But you leave us 525 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: in the pot too long, we're gonna keep button heads. 526 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: But like that's that's that's the the O G best 527 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: friend and like your girls, Yeah she does, she does, 528 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: and she'll tell me, like, what's great it is like 529 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I consult her, she consults me. I consult her. So 530 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: she's meeting a new guy SHO should or women. I'll 531 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I know, you know, be careful because 532 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: you have a habit of doing this. And then she'll 533 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: tell me like, yo, don't confuse um your business practices 534 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: with your relationship practices. I know how you like to 535 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: do that. So she she finds she's like a therapist 536 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: for me in certain ways, which prevents me from being 537 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: like this insecure I need therapy guy and placing that 538 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: on a new level. So like and insecure. Have you 539 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: ever um gone back to an X for like comfort, 540 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: because it seems like he got out of or he's 541 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: having a little bit of trouble in his situation and 542 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: he's it looks like he's running back to his act. 543 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: So have you ever ran back to an act and 544 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: actually end up going back to them? Oh? Yeah, that's 545 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: where I'm most savage, Like my, yeah, that's my My 546 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: funk ups in life are usually not in the relationship, 547 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: that in that gray area after the relationship. I'm I'm 548 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: such I'm a determined person. So when she don't work, 549 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't get why it doesn't work. So I'll go 550 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: back and then you know, you get lonely and so 551 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: you I'll go back and I'll try to and this 552 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: is where the manipulation comes in. That's the negative part 553 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: of it. And I'll reel them in, make them trust 554 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: like this could work, and I actually do believe it 555 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: in the moment, but there's a but there's a reason 556 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: why I didn't work in the first place. It never 557 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: works out. And that's where it gets ugly because I'm 558 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: dating people while I'm trying to reel and you know, yeah, 559 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: but I don't do this no more like I'm done. 560 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: Like I got I realized I'm really good with black 561 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: and white ship the agreement has got to be clear. 562 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: If it's not clear and as great, it's gonna be. Lady, 563 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: say you feel about a guy you're dating betting friends 564 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: with his ex and like, no, no, it's not happening. 565 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: I can have sex with any of my exes right 566 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: now if I wanted to. Hell, you know, don't talk 567 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: to your ex girlfriend please for me, I feel like 568 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: this one. Once you've been my ex, we're not friends anymore. 569 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: That's it. So why would I let my man be 570 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: friends with his ex? It doesn't make any sense because 571 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: you're secure. You're secure if you If y'all was really 572 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: secure about about your partners, you wouldn't be worried about 573 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: I know, but it's not. I don't mean I trust 574 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: my man. I just don't trust the dirty slust that 575 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: he was with before me. You know what I'm saying now, 576 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: I get with saying. I get what she's saying. But 577 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: you feel I definitely feel you, But I just think 578 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: just the fact of um, just anything like for what 579 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: all y'all obviously broke up for a reason. It didn't work, 580 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: So what are you doing? Like if y'all want to 581 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: be yeah, being corgeous if you have a kid together, 582 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: that's something else. But like being cordial is fine. But 583 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: as far as like I feel like being like really 584 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: tight friends, that's just weird to me. And I just 585 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: feel like maybe even a certain level of respect maybe 586 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: if I meet her or something like that. I don't know, 587 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: but it's just like what are you What are y'all doing? 588 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: What if she's like married or something already, why it's 589 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: weird to me that for me I had And I'm 590 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: not just talking about like women I dated. I'm talking 591 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: about women I really had a serious relationship with. If 592 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: I invest in time with them, am I gonna just 593 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: throw them to the side, Like because you did that 594 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: with the relationship, that kind of relationship. I didn't want 595 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: to throw them away as friends. To me, it also 596 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: shows like what he how that how that person is 597 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: who could be towards you? Like you know what I'm saying. 598 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: You know with me, here's what you get, Here's what 599 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: you get with me. You know you know that I'm 600 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: still gonna be good to their families. I still take 601 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: care of them. I still like I'm not going over 602 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: and holding them in my lap and doing the same things, 603 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: but at least I'm in touch I'll still face time 604 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: them and I know I know their their community, their 605 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: friend circle. I'm not gonna just throw them by the 606 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: wayside because that that that relationship meant something to me. 607 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: So if I'm with the woman now and she sees that, yeah, 608 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: it maybe like damn, I hope he never goes back. 609 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: But if she's secured with me, if I'm secured with myself, 610 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,439 Speaker 1: then then I think that it's all positive. It's it's 611 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: nothing and she can. I know women that I've I've 612 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: dated who will then ask one of my ex is 613 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: about me? And and that's kind of what you know 614 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: you see in insecure right now? Yeah, yeah, that's you 615 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: know you don't want to hear that story. I'm actually 616 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: right now. I want women to know everything about me 617 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: early on because eventually I want to form some sort 618 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: of union or marriage. And honestly, the quicker we can, 619 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: we can get through all the trauma and all the yeah, 620 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: all the bullshit like just know me, Like no, you 621 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: can ask you anything. I feel like friends, you know, 622 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: access should be enemies, because then there's something wrong, there's 623 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: something there's something bad there. But you know, to be 624 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: speaking all the time. I mean, if you see challa, Hey, 625 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 1: what's up are you doing? No problem with that, but 626 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: to have an ongoing relationship after you broke up, you 627 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 1: might as well have stayed together. Well, what are you 628 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: worried about? I don't think it's even a wor thing. Girl, 629 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: It's so for me. I don't feel like it's necessarily 630 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: a worried thing. But I just know, like I said, 631 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: I know how my excess felt about me, or like 632 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: I've had my like a ex the other day hit 633 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: me talking about something I love you, and it's like 634 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: I had to block him because it's like, bro, Like 635 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: what if I moved on and had a whole another 636 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: relationship and now my man just seen that on the phone. 637 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: You get what I'm trying to me? Yeah, that's me. 638 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: You know what else I think to Like, I have 639 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: a wreakingto I'm cool, but I respected they're in a relationship, 640 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: and I never want the woman to feel uncomfortable. So 641 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: I would like set some boundaries where I know, like, Okay, 642 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: he's in a relationship. I don't want anybody to think anything. 643 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't want his girl to be upset. So I'll 644 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: check in, you know, if there's like an event, I 645 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: might invite you to my birthday. Pritay all good and 646 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: it's like her, But I'm also not gonna be like 647 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: calling you at midnight. But that makes sense. But you 648 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: can't control people actions. So whether they're friends with their 649 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: ex or whatever, if they're gonna sunk, they're gonna suck 650 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: somebody regardless. So it's not like I'm gonna dive myself 651 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: in front of a friendship. But I just know about temptations, 652 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: and I know how it is when you know how 653 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: someone is in the bed or when you're getting lonely 654 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: and they're there for you and being close. It's just 655 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: a temptation factor and it's just kind of like if 656 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: it didn't work, let it go, feel like it doesn't count. 657 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: If you suck your exit like it didn't count. That's 658 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: I do that, and it's not still to the day. 659 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: But no, but yet, you know, for ther y'all know, 660 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: for the longest, I've always felt like that. But now 661 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: like I learned my lesson because of a situation that 662 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: I had where I took back an act. But like 663 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: I used to be like that. I used to be 664 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: like you should have a sex. I used to give 665 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: that advice out like you should have sex with your acts. 666 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: At least you're not adding a body or something like that, right, 667 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: you know whatever. But that's not that's not a good 668 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: way to think because you're still giving your energy to 669 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: somebody that doesn't deserve it. So let me let me 670 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: ask you all this. So, so let me ask you 671 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: all this about the function way of of human beings. Right, 672 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: do you think that people are hard wired for monogamy? 673 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 1: I think I think when people get to a certain 674 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: age in it and it's like a lot of effort 675 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: to try to do too much. I think people do. 676 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: I know for myself, Like when I was younger, I'll 677 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: date several people, have a good time, But as you 678 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: get older and busier and you want to settle down. 679 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: I think it's just like the knowing that you have 680 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: this one person that you have to deal with, it 681 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: just feels better to me. I feel you you get like, 682 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: getting busy is a huge factor. Sorry, you you're about 683 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: to say something no, no, no, go go no. I 684 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: mean like, but even with that, you're you're you're trying 685 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: to say that every like this person is enough to 686 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: satisfy all your needs. Yeah, I feel that way also 687 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 1: because I just said like, I'm more about being probably comfortable. 688 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: If I decided to be with you now, then that 689 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: means that that's something real. When I was younger, I 690 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: didn't take certain things into consideration. I just was having 691 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 1: a good time and like we could date for two 692 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: weeks and yeah my boyfriend. Now it's like, okay, we 693 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: have to date for a year before I feel like 694 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: that next. Yep, that's how I am for me. Once 695 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: you have sex with me, you're my boyfriend. That's it. 696 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: Like sex not your mind. Now you come on. I 697 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I feel like God has 698 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: a very funny sense of people, Marie. He made women 699 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: more intuing monogamy and manner like what what I want 700 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: to be with everybody? I don't feel like all men 701 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: are like that. Mendo like that more monogamist and we 702 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: are women not to not to death. But I'm saying 703 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: some of the I'm actually I'm great at monogamy. Okay, yes, 704 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: the longest eight years Okay that it was like some 705 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: marriage ship and I never cheated in eight years. Wow, 706 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: that's amazing. So you could be with one person married 707 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: and no one else and that could be your hall. 708 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I don't know. I don't know. I 709 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: don't know anymore I do. I do know this, like 710 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: when i'm if I commit in monogamy not cheating, like 711 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: I've never cheated my life, I don't and I don't 712 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: think I would. But but when I think about marriage 713 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: long term and so that do us part, that's that 714 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: just sounds right for failure, Like it just it doesn't 715 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: you grow, You evolved the same person that you marry, 716 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: the same person that you met when you dated, when 717 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: you fell in love. It is not the person that 718 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be with over the years. Like people change 719 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: months a month, people change year to year for sure, 720 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: and ask people evolved, you can't expect them to be 721 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 1: locked into some agreement. So to me, I want to 722 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: be with a woman who can evolve over time, and 723 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: it's okay with a little bit of uncertainty down the 724 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: line initially foundation develop it. I actually I don't have 725 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: time to be running around with a million women. I 726 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: don't want to anymore. And honestly, I never really was 727 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: that guy anyway. I would love to lock something down. 728 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: I just know that over time, like the agreement has 729 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: to change. I believe in agreements, so say and I 730 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: actually don't care about certain things. I don't care if 731 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: a woman I'm with is gonna occasionally make make out 732 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: with somebody. I really don't care. Oh my god. I mean, 733 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: look if she you know, if she has that, I 734 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: try to stay away. But to me, I'm not mad 735 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: at that. I'm not mad at if she if she's 736 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: an amazing woman and I'm feeling it like whatever, I 737 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: really I'm open to certain things like it just does. 738 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter every every time. I don't need you 739 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: to be a standard orthodox person. That's the thing. As 740 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: long as we can come up with a deal. Even 741 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm cool, I can see me down the line being 742 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: with a woman with even if it's my wife, and 743 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: striking an agreement where she can be with other men 744 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: as well. Like I don't. I'm not tripping off that 745 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: that she doesn't kill me. What I care about is 746 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: that we hold each other down. We we support each other, 747 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: We're there when we need. We know that none of 748 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: these other relationships are as strong as ours, y'all. I 749 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: don't know if y'all watch House of Cars when it 750 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: was popping um, and you know their relationship was weird, 751 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: the Underwood family. But no other relationship that they had 752 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: because they were like polyamorous, Um, no other relationship could 753 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: penetrate there for most of the shame. And that's that's 754 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: kind of how I look at it. No matter what 755 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: the foundation is the foundation. But I do feel like 756 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 1: sometimes there's always signs of weakness where you feel like, um, 757 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 1: maybe the other relationships starts to make you feel better 758 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 1: than that one. And I think that's where a woman 759 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: it's always gonna feel away about, because that's kind of 760 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: like when a woman brings another woman into the bed 761 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 1: for a threesome and it's like, okay, I want to 762 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: three something, you want to three some cool, Now we 763 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,439 Speaker 1: do the threesome, and then what happens. Then man goes 764 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: out and impregnates the girl on the side, and you 765 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: know something like that, all the women falls in love 766 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: with too. Yeah, but nine times out of turn, it's 767 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: always the man that messes up, goes behind the back 768 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: and ends up getting the side check, or the threesome 769 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: girl pregnant or it's sucking her behind the back. So 770 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: that's what the problem is. I don't think it's ever 771 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: that women will look at it like we won't ever 772 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: accept something like that. I think it's like when it 773 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: comes to things like that and you're like, all right, 774 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: well say you kiss somebody cool, I don't know about it. 775 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: Next thing you know she's your wife too, then that's 776 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: a problem, you know what I mean. And I don't 777 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: know if that's the conversation here having with them, like 778 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: they're just gonna be somebody that I fun here and there, 779 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: or is it like I'm getting another girlfriend, I'm getting 780 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: another wife. You know what I mean? You gotta I 781 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 1: think you got up front as well as possible. That's 782 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: the main thing. One thing I found out is if 783 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: you can be upfront, women are much more not like 784 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: to not like they're gonna agree with everything, but they're 785 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: much more open than You never know what a woman 786 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: will are. She might be like I'm down that I'd 787 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: rather know, or or she'll be like, look, I'm glad 788 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: you told me that, but I don't ever want to know. 789 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: And make sure there's a week in between anybody and 790 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: only on the road and don't fall up. That's very specific. 791 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: Now I would be like, you can't eat her pussy, 792 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 1: that would be a rule, and you have to wear 793 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 1: a condom. Like to me, those are more and more 794 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: a rule than anything. Yeah, I feel you feel relationships. Man. No, 795 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm okay with that, but I'm saying 796 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: if those were more so something that somebody laid out 797 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: other than I'm just going behind your back and cheating 798 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,439 Speaker 1: on you, at least they're giving you. Yeah, I agree 799 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: with and you can't buy have a no kiss and 800 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 1: you can't buy. But I think also getting tested. You 801 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: have to get tested within like a certain range too, 802 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: because I mean, I've obviously worked out in agreements and 803 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: I made sure the worst the worst thing to do 804 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: is the worst feeling to have is feeling like you 805 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: put a woman's body and health at right and she 806 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: didn't know it. That's the first thing we say to Yeah, yeah, 807 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: I've always made sure to get tested and and that's 808 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 1: how you know what I mean, I've remained disease free. Um. Yeah, 809 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: it is now last question before because I know you 810 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: know we're almost at an hour. This is only supposed 811 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: to be half an hour. But what would rules be 812 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,479 Speaker 1: if a woman could see other men? Like, what would 813 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: you tell her the rules out for her to be 814 00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: able to do that. Here's a little trick this is 815 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: I've noticed that the more open, and I am the 816 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: less the woman wants to go out and be with 817 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: a million people. If I'm like, yo, I here's what 818 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: I care about. UM, I only care about that you're 819 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: you're safe, you get tested. UM, if you start to 820 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: have developed feelings, just tell me early, like I'd rather 821 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: have that early. I just want to know up front. Um, 822 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: I actually like to know. I like to know the guy. Wow. Yeah, 823 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: and that might that might be some control ship, to 824 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,399 Speaker 1: be honest, like, that might be some territory ship. What 825 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: did he see you? I didn't know? Yeah, sounds like that. 826 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: Sounds like a reverse psychology. That's how you back. I 827 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: preface it's a little, but my rules are simple, like 828 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: I just don't I would like I feel confident in 829 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: and me and me and her. I know that what 830 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: how I am, I'm unique enough for her and she's 831 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: unique enough for me. So I'm not really threatened by 832 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: by anybody. UM. I just needed I just needed to 833 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: be safe and I needed to not be UM like 834 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to know. I want to know what it is. 835 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: So if it's developing into something more than just casual 836 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: sex or something just like, protect my heart, don't just 837 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: protect my body. Protect my heart on movie dates and 838 00:50:43,520 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: watching Insecure together. Yeah, TikTok Yea said, I think honestly 839 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: on the front end is everything. But here's the thing 840 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: about honestly on the front end, it takes something Like 841 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: I said earlier, it takes kind of process. I realized, like, 842 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: and if you date like an introvert, it's even worse 843 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 1: because they won't even tell you for for months and months. 844 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 1: And so I I used to do this thing in 845 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: relationships that I got from this book called the Spirit 846 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: of Intimacy where every month we would have this ritual together, 847 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: like we put candles in the circle would be bass 848 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: naked um back to back, and we would lay out, Yeah, 849 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: you gotta do that. So once you give your sacrament 850 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: and ancestors, you talk about your relationship and you talk 851 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: about things that you made. Uh, it's a safe space 852 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: basically for y'all to to express this. So that way, 853 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: every month, no matter what, y'all have a space where 854 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: y'all communicate. And that when I did that, my relationships 855 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: were so strong. And when I failed to do that, 856 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: that's when things got weak because that resentment starts growing 857 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: because y'all, y'all say some things that happened halfway through 858 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: the month, So I think putting, yeah, putting those practices 859 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: in a huge relationships, especially if you're dating the introver. 860 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: All right, well, we appreciate that. That sounds really good. 861 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 1: You didn't naked invent your candles. In a second, he's 862 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 1: gonna be like, Jamnie, I just wanted to talk about 863 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: that should be your next listening session, like just everybody 864 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: sit in the room but naked, like listen to the 865 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: album the last night. Well, Stanner, we appreciate you so 866 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: much and I always appreciate your honesty and fund conversations. 867 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: So we'll be following and making sure we tune in 868 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: to your page right now to here everything you're talking about. 869 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: And you have your book club. I was telling you 870 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: I have a book club too, so you know I 871 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: love that. So we'll do a complation. Yeah, we might 872 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: do that. I might bring you on os is called 873 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,720 Speaker 1: the Lit Review Black Men's book Club hosted Body Intoxicated 874 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: Uncle's Um. So I would love I would love to 875 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 1: have you on for sure. So thank you for bringing 876 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: me on the lip service. Thank you all for keeping 877 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: it a hundred and lying. I mean, uh, but I 878 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: wish you'll will with your partners and your lovers. You know, 879 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know which y'all got quarantine bays, but I 880 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: wish you will. Yes, Thank you,