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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jenny and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mother Knows Death. We have a special Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: episode for you today, talking about the most common things

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Speaker 1: that we would see at Thanksgiving time that have to

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Speaker 1: do with of course eating and also relationship disputes. So

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Speaker 1: let's get into Let's get into cooking injuries at first.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, let's start off with a bunch of

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Speaker 1: cooking injuries. This is going to be, you know, the

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Speaker 1: most common thing we see this time of year. So first,

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Speaker 1: let's start off talking about a pressure cooker. This is

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Speaker 1: something that the both of us heavily use a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I use it for almost

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Speaker 1: every single dinner. Really, you use it that often? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really cook so much there. I use it sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really cool. I just started using it

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Speaker 1: when you told me to get it, actually a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago, and it is. It is really awesome.

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Speaker 1: But what happens is with for those of you who've

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Speaker 1: never used a pressure cooker, it just you put your

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Speaker 1: food in there and it cooks it and it accelerates

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Speaker 1: the boiling point basically to cook your food faster than

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Speaker 1: it normally could on a stove, but when it's under

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Speaker 1: pressure like that, it can be a serious safety hazard.

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Speaker 1: So even if you've bought one of these modern instapots

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Speaker 1: at you know, Target or whatever, there's one thousand warning

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Speaker 1: labels all over it, and you know, the history of

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Speaker 1: them kind of can scare the shit out of you

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Speaker 1: if you really know what could happen like it did

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Speaker 1: in this particular case we have in the gross room. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean there used to be I feel like a

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Speaker 1: lot of issues with it when they first were like

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Speaker 1: out in what the seventies, probably in the eighties, but

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Speaker 1: they were having a lot of problems, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the insta pot comes out and like

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Speaker 1: it's this like new modern machine for millennials, Right. I

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Speaker 1: think they came back because they put all these crazy

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Speaker 1: safety mechanisms on it to prevent them from blowing off,

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Speaker 1: but they still tell you that there's a possibility of

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Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah. So in this case, this woman was

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Speaker 1: in her thirties, she was using the instapot. I guess

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Speaker 1: she was, or I don't know, was the fancy pot

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Speaker 1: specific or just a pressure cooker. It just said a

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Speaker 1: pressure cooker. Okay, So she's using a pressure cooker and

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Speaker 1: she's standing in front of it, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the lid blows off of it. The thing tips over.

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Speaker 1: If you've ever used one of these things, they caused

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Speaker 1: this crazy amount of steam that comes out. Again, there's

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Speaker 1: a million warnings all over these things that are like,

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Speaker 1: don't stand near when it's releasing steam. Obviously, she didn't

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Speaker 1: it tips over, and then it's like pushing all of

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Speaker 1: that excess steam and boiling hot liquid onto her and

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Speaker 1: she immediately, you know, her partner tried to get her

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Speaker 1: in a cold shower as quickly as pot. They brought

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Speaker 1: her to urgent care, but she had really bad burns

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Speaker 1: from this. Yeah, she had second degree burns over a

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Speaker 1: large percentage of her body from both the steam and

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Speaker 1: the liquid hot boiling fluid that was in the pressure cooker.

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Speaker 1: So just we're just telling you, like we use them

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Speaker 1: all the time, but just be careful with them because

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Speaker 1: they could really hurt you. And like, think about this.

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Speaker 1: The Boston Marathon bombers used pressure cookers to really shrapnel,

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Speaker 1: so it's like they have the potential to really harm you,

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Speaker 1: so you just have to follow. Think if you follow

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Speaker 1: think the thing is like you want to buy a

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Speaker 1: not try to force the lid off for a good reason.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened in this case, if it

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Speaker 1: was a vaulty machine or it wasn't being used, but

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Speaker 1: we obviously don't want to end up in situations like

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Speaker 1: One of my theories in medicine in general, and this

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Speaker 1: I think that they're way under reported. So for example,

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Speaker 1: still should get reported to the company. Right, What are

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Speaker 1: the chances that they're getting the exact name brand of

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Speaker 1: fact that we used to report certain breast and plants

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Speaker 1: told us of a specific case. There was also these

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Speaker 1: So we would get them sent down to the lab

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Speaker 1: Make sure that you really work this one up and

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Speaker 1: take lots of pictures and stuff. But just on average

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Speaker 1: really interesting. I never thought about that, like when people

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Speaker 1: those assured devices, all right. And while I could get

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Speaker 1: burned by something like a pressure cooker any day, more

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Speaker 1: specifically to Thanksgiving is deep friers for turkeys. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: cause a lot of issues, so they became popular. They

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Speaker 1: became really popular probably when Martha Stewart put it on

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Speaker 1: the front cover of her magazine back in the nineties. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's not blame Martha for this. I'm not blaming Martha.

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Speaker 1: I've never had it, and I want to have it

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Speaker 1: so bad. One of the firemen makes it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just to get to taste it because I heard it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming her. I'm just saying that a lot

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Speaker 1: of Martha Stewart. You're gonna leave the five star meal

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Speaker 1: So what happened was they had the turkey fire that

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Speaker 1: But you might have like a fire extinguisher right next

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Speaker 1: So well, they estimate that there are sick study injuries

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Speaker 1: fried or what? Like? How are they? No, They're probably

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Speaker 1: don't know. They are crispy. They're crispy, and they're like's

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Speaker 1: you're not a dark person, I am. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: turkey and like the thick like white meat parts, but like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge like I eat chicken, but I

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Speaker 1: if it has that gross chicken eat taste too? No,

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Speaker 1: But the most the craziest thing is that she admitted

430
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: to a psychiatric that she quote did his ribs just

431
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: like a restaurant and said, it is so sweet, it's delicious.

432
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: I like mind tender. So she cooked his ribs and

433
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: ate them. She also put his head in the freezer,

434
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: which they found later. She said she was figuring out

435
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: what to do with it. Oh, spit down the drain.

436
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: I suppose no, And imagine being the police officer that

437
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: has to go to the scene and finds his stuff. Yeah,

438
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean we talk about at least one story. Well

439
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: it's even the one we just talked about. Like, imagine

440
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: standing there and getting a phone call on Thanksgiving. So

441
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: all right, you're a first responder and you're already working

442
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,959
Speaker 1: on the holiday, which sucks. You get a call that says, oh,

443
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: we were supposed to go here for Thanksgiving and nobody's here.

444
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: And they show up and the house is all dark.

445
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: They're like holding side items and bottles of wine in

446
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: their hand, right, and just like, hey, could you check

447
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: And then it all of a sudden turns to the

448
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: sister finding her brother like that and her sister in

449
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: law like that. I mean, that's a lot for a

450
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: cop to see too, especially any person that's dismembered all

451
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: over the floor is disturbing as hell. And then this

452
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, doing this investigation. Imagine the psychiatrist talking

453
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: to this woman who's talking about eating a human's ribs.

454
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine that. So so I understand that she

455
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: was mad and upset that she got sexually assaulted but

456
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: I think there was other things going on with her,

457
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: because I don't see the correlation of being sexually assaulted

458
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: and then I could see killing someone because you don't

459
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: that's fine, but like cooking them and eating them is

460
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: that's like another level of crazy. Yeah, we have plenty

461
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: of cases where people were raped and ended up killing somebody,

462
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: but it's never quite escalated into then eating their remains.

463
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: What's really interesting is she went to jail after this,

464
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: but she's actually eligible for parole in twenty twenty six, yeah,

465
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: which is soon, right. I wonder if I mean she did.

466
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: I would think if she talked to a psychiatrist and

467
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: was saying these things, there has to be some kind

468
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: of diagnosis with this, right, Like it's just an average

469
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: person just doesn't eat someone like this. What year did

470
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: this happen? In ninety one? Yeah? It really just wasn't

471
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: that long ago. So she can get out in a

472
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: couple of years. And she's not even really that old.

473
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: So yeah, she was only twenty three. Yeah, so what

474
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: is she like in her fifties? I'm prep My math

475
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: is all over the place, so I can't just do

476
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: it all this, folidd I assume, Yeah, I would assume

477
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: she's getting out in twenty twenty six. Let me do

478
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: the math. Oh my god, people are like these girls

479
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: are so dulle. I just I'm not a math in

480
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: my head person. I was also telling, you know, Lily

481
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: and like learning all this. Yeah, she'll be fifty when

482
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: she's eligible to get released, so so she might be

483
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: on the dating market soon. Just imagine. I mean she

484
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: probably has a boyfriend, Like everyone in jail has relationships.

485
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: Apparently we didn't even cover this this week, but like

486
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: this story came out that lyleman Enda is like having

487
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: an affair in jail, and you were saying, how do

488
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: you even have an affair? And I'm like, they literally

489
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: get letters all the time. I was thinking about this

490
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: actually after we talked about this, do you think like

491
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: when you're in jail and you meet someone, if you

492
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: just are like, oh, any person is paying attention to

493
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: me and wants to be a relationship with me, And

494
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm kind like, you can't really date in a typical

495
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: way of like dating all these different women and finding

496
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: out which one you're a good fit with. And then

497
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: once he found out that he was possibly going to

498
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: get out, he's just like, fuck this like, I have

499
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: my choice of any woman now, Like I don't. I

500
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: don't need to be with this lady anymore. Yeah, I don't.

501
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: I really don't know he I think he's already been

502
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: married two times. So and he was a teenager when

503
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: he went to jail, right, So it's this is like

504
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: the only was in his early twenties. Okay, but he

505
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend at the time that the parents were murdered.

506
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think he had like an extensive dating history. Yeah,

507
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: did he marry that girl? No? Oh, okay, he married

508
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: He married like two women that were following the trial. Wow,

509
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: that's insane. So that's like a whole other subject. Just

510
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: what was that show called that talked about people a

511
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: love after Laca? Yeah, Yeah, Well there's there's also there

512
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: was a new show last year called like prison wives

513
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. I didn't watch any of those,

514
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: but I think there's a psychological component for the woman

515
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: that they are. They typically have the history of dating cheaters,

516
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: and then they think because the guys in prison that

517
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: they like can't cheat on them because they're in jail.

518
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: But they're not factoring in emotional affairs via letters calls. Yeah,

519
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: so I don't understand. Like I was kind of mind

520
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: blown when I found out that there was some kind

521
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: of Reddit group for people who like loved Brian Coburger

522
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: and thought he was like hot, which is just like, Okay,

523
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't know who you're looking at and thinking this

524
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: is hot, But you have this person that is strong.

525
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of strong evidence against him murdering for

526
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: people and stabbing them and butchering them to death. What's

527
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: attractive about that? I don't understand. Well, it was the

528
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: same with that Wade Wilson guy that was convicted a

529
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: couple months ago. I mean there are still girls making

530
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: TikTok saying he's innocent, and it's like, just because a

531
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: person's like attractive doesn't mean that they didn't brutally murder somebody.

532
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: It's very weak. He's the one that was attractive and

533
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: then got all these weird tattoos on his face. Yeah yeah,

534
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: like that right, there is a sign of guilt. Is

535
00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: just that he has like some crazy shit on his face, right? Yeah,

536
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: Like it's not and it's not just like them in jail. Yeah,

537
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: but there isn't it like racist stuff and all this,

538
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: Like it's not just like, no, it's not just like

539
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: normal face tattoos. He has like a swastig on his face.

540
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: Yea horrible stuff. Like what's going You're like, something is

541
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: clearly not right with that guy. Yeah, of course, but

542
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: there's you know, all these women like obsessed with him,

543
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: and it's very weird to me that you're not, Like,

544
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: I really want to talk to one of these people, honestly.

545
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: I just want to like look at someone in the

546
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: eye and just be like, explain this to me. Please.

547
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Could you imagine like somebody at your work or someone

548
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: in your family telling you that they that they had

549
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: some kind of crosser relationship with a person like this,

550
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: Like you just want to talk to them and say, like,

551
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: what's happening right now? But Eric Menendez has been with

552
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: his wife I think for thirty years like that. That

553
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: situation to me is a little bit different because I

554
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: strongly believe that they're innocent, and if any anybody really

555
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I don't think they're innocent. I think

556
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: they murdered their parents for sure, but the background of

557
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: them having this abuse and stuff is pretty strong, and

558
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like free pass on those things. It's

559
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: the same with like listen, Gypsy Rose situation. Most people

560
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: are kind of putting her on People magazine and like

561
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: she's she's going to red carpet premieres and stuff, like

562
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: they're giving her a pass because of what she went through, Right'

563
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with them. It's just a little

564
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: bit different with these other cases that you're like, and

565
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: there's there's not really much that you're going to be

566
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: able to say to me to prove that he didn't

567
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: do this right, especially the coburger case. Yeah, I think

568
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: it's very interesting. He's just not he's not hot even

569
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 1: a little bit like people used to say Ted Bundy

570
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: was hot. You're like, no, unless there I don't want

571
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: to lid. There's a lid for every part I under

572
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: I understand that. But but there's also people in general

573
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: think that Okay, most people will say, oh, Brad Pitt

574
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: is a handsome person, right, Like he's not really my

575
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: cup of tea. But I could look at him and say, okay,

576
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I could see why he's an a technically handsome person, right,

577
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: So then people would say that about Ted Bundy, right,

578
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: And then I've heard the argument that people say, well,

579
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: back in the day he was considered handsome, And I'm like, no,

580
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: fucking Elvis was considered handsome and he's still considered handsome

581
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: to Okay, Like I'm going to stand by that argument

582
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: and say, for regular person, he was considered seventies handsome,

583
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: but he's not my type. But I'm just saying, like

584
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: that's that's people don't didn't get more attractive. But if

585
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: thirty years or forty or fifty years later, like that's ridiculous.

586
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: Regular people didn't didn't evolve and get hotter. There's plenty

587
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: of people that you could say were hot in the seventies,

588
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, it's the people are

589
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: getting hotter. It's no, No, that's absolutely they're getting hotter

590
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: with great enhancement. Yeah, but we're but dudes typically well

591
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: I know they do, but a lot of dudes don't

592
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: do that. So you just have to think about, like

593
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't hot. The only thing that you could say

594
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: was hot was that people are attracted to the fact

595
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: that he was a serial killer. I just don't I

596
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: just don't see it in the face. It's the same

597
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: with coburger. I just don't see it. And it's funny because, well,

598
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: the thing is is that apparently he was like an

599
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: in cell type right, Yeah, and like nobody thought he

600
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: was hot before this happened. He wasn't like pounding it

601
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 1: left and right right, Like nobody was into that. And

602
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden he's got like all these

603
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: girls into him because he killed some killed people. It's weird. Yeah,

604
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you the people obsessed with him

605
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: are in part because I'm sure some of them think

606
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: he's attractive, but you know, a lot of it has

607
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: to do with what he did, which is scarier to

608
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: think about that some people are okay with that and

609
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: attracted to people that have murdered other people. Yeah, so

610
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, and it's not that I guess. That's

611
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: the scary part about these Reddit groups and just the

612
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: on online in general, is that you're always gonna have

613
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: some some sick fuck out there that thinks a certain way.

614
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: But now you have these communities where all of these

615
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: people could get together and share all their sick ideas

616
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: and like feed off of each other and this, Listen,

617
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: this could be a really positive thing. Like when you

618
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: have the Walmart Nutcracker group on Facebook, every face posting

619
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: that makes me want to get one now actually, but

620
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: everyone's posting these blank nutcrackers that you could buy that

621
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: are like six foot tall at Walmart and there's like

622
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: groups for them on Facebook, right, And you're like, that's

623
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: a good example of a community with a weird niche

624
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: that gets together and it's like, hey, look how I

625
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: painted my nutcracker and stuff totally innocent. But then you

626
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: have these people that are like, hey, isn't it hot

627
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: that that guy like file at that girl open? Oh yeah,

628
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: this is so hot. Like then that shit's weird. Yeah,

629
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: But like this is this is like where we're gonna

630
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: start seeing. You know, the internet's been around for what

631
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: like three decades approximately right now, so we're gonna really

632
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: start seeing the dangers of it when things like this

633
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: start coming out more and more over time. I guess

634
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: you could kind of say the grocroom is somewhere in

635
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: between these two things, because it is kind of you're

636
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: looking at things that are really sick and twisted, but

637
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: at the same time you're you're learning about them and

638
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: trying to hopefully people are learning about them and trying

639
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: to make their lives better and not other things. Right,

640
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: you can't even say the grocerm is the same thing.

641
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: They're not people like actively having discussions of the public

642
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: forum being like this is sexy, like you know what

643
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean. No, but it's people in an active forum

644
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: that are like, oh, this is the craziest accident I've

645
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: ever seen. This is the craziest murder I've ever seen.

646
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: I've never seen such a gruesome murder. It's like people

647
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: getting together to talk about the worst things that could

648
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: happen to humans, basically, but it is it is interesting,

649
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: and it's like the whole true crime thing, like why

650
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: are women so interested in true crime? And it's just like,

651
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: well number one because our maybe our lives aren't that exciting.

652
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: And like, I don't know if this has happened at

653
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: crime con before, but I think they should because it's

654
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent women. Do a lecture on the psychological

655
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: like component of women being attracted the serial killers. Yeah, no,

656
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: nobody has to do it. I don't know, maybe they've

657
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: done it before. I know, I'm just trying to think

658
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: of like who to even recommend that too, And really

659
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: they could even talk about the fascination with true crime

660
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: and the women. And it is interesting because when we

661
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: went there, the first, Like, you know, I had Gabe

662
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: walk around with me at first, just so we could

663
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: like check out the convention and stuff, and he was

664
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: just like, Yo, there's like all women here. This is insane.

665
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: He's just like look around, there's like a random husband

666
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: with the wife or something, but like this is like

667
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: a whole chick thing. He's like, why is that? He

668
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: kind of was like mind blown by that a little bit. Well,

669
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: there you have, like you want to think that a

670
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: majority of the women are attracted to like the police

671
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: officers and the lawyers. Joe. The line of of women

672
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: that are lined up for him is hilarious. Your mother face, Yes,

673
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: my mom is Yeah, this is like my mom is

674
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: like the prime person that will go there and stand

675
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: in line for three hours just to like be like

676
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: they send to you all the time. And then the

677
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: women following that Murphy like he's the Beatles right, Like,

678
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: so you have all that and that happened. I told

679
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: him that when I interviewed him, I was just like

680
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: I looked over and saw all these women like fan

681
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: growing following some dude, and it ended up being you

682
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: like that's it was just like it's just like hilarious.

683
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: Why don't we move on to the rest of it

684
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: so we could talk. We could talk about serial killers

685
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: and people being in love with them forever and kind justice. Yeah,

686
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: and we need to talk about eating injuries because you know,

687
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: lots of people eat tomorrow so or Thanksgiving. All right,

688
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: So I guess a big risk with eating turkeys and

689
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: stuff is that you could potentially eat parts of the

690
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: bones if they're not cut properly. And that happened to

691
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: this one guy in this one key's so like over

692
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: ten years ago, this guy in Australia. I don't even

693
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: think this is Thanksgiving related, but it's wishbone related. So

694
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: who eats turkey that's not on Thanksgiving? I know people eat,

695
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: like launch eat turkey and stuff, but like, does do

696
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: people cook a turkey on any other day besides Thanksgiving

697
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: and maybe Christmas time? Yes? My stepmother in law cooks

698
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: turkey breast like on a regular day. Okay, I've never well,

699
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I cook ground turkey a lot, but not like yeah,

700
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: I guess instead of like yeah, I know. Anyway, Sorry, anyway,

701
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: this guy sits down and he's playing video games and

702
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: he's eating leftovers and swallows part of a wish bone

703
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: that was in the leftovers, which how does that happen

704
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: in general? Are you? I don't know. But he knew

705
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: that he swallowed it. He knew he swallowed it, but

706
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: he was hoping it would just pass. Yeah, So this

707
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: is the biggest thing I want to tell you, guys.

708
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: If you ever swallow something that's considered to be a

709
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: foreign body like a bone, go to the hospital really

710
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: and don't risk trying to pass it because especially if

711
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: it even if it's not broken, it could perforate your

712
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: bow wall and it could really cause you to die.

713
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: And you should always just go to the hospital right away, honestly. Like,

714
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: if this guy went to the hospital right away and

715
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: got an endoscopy really fast, they would have been able

716
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: to just remove it and end of story. And instead

717
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: it turned into hell for this guy. Yeah. I mean,

718
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: so basically he's just like waiting this time for it

719
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: to pass. It doesn't pass. Two days later, he starts

720
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: having indigestion, chest tightenness, shortness of breath, and then he

721
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: sort of pain in his anus. The worst part of

722
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: this is really how he got treated at the hospital.

723
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: Like I was reading this and I just couldn't believe

724
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: that this is actually what really happened, Like he went

725
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: to the hospital and he told them that he ingested

726
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: accidentally a wishbone and said he was having pain in

727
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: his anus. And the first thing the people at the

728
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: hospital should have done was give him imaging and find out,

729
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: like where is this thing and what's happening, And instead

730
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: they sent him home with hemorrhoid cream. Okay, even make

731
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Eddie's say, I understand that you could have anal pain

732
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: from hemorrhoids, but like the foreign body in the GI

733
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: track is a concern no matter what, even if he

734
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: wasn't even saying he had anal pain, like, check that

735
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: shit out. So they didn't do it. And then when

736
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: he went back, he ended up having the wishbone had

737
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: perforated through his rectum and caused an absess, which is

738
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: a collection of plus essentially around the bow, and that's

739
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: what was causing his pain. And furthermore, he became septic

740
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: from that, which means that the bacteria got into his

741
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: bloodstream and spread to his organs. And he went to

742
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: the ICU and everything, and he woke up and he

743
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: was paralyzed from the waist down because of that, or

744
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: from the neck down actually because that's sorry. Yeah, and

745
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: he had to live in a reheb for four years

746
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: before he could go home. I don't know if he

747
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: did it, say, if he ended up and walking again

748
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: or that was Yeah, he had something called critical illness neuropathy,

749
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: which is something that people can get after they have

750
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: a serious illness, especially like sepsis, that could cause them

751
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: to become temporarily paralyzed. I'm glad that he ended up

752
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: suing the hospital, honestly, because this could have been caught

753
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: multiple times before it became a problem for him, you

754
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I have another story actually

755
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: of a woman who swallowed a wishbone but didn't know

756
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: she swallowed a wishbone, and she went to the hospital

757
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: because there was something hard protruding from her anus. She

758
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: had a history of constipation, and when they did imaging

759
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: on her, they saw that she had this V shaped

760
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: foreign bodies stuck in her rectum right near her anus,

761
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: and when they removed it, it was a wishbone and

762
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: she like literally had no idea that she even ate it.

763
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand how it's ending up in it. I do,

764
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: because when you when you eat, there's been multiple times

765
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: that you're eating like a like a chicken, like a drumstick,

766
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: for example, you could bite off a piece of a

767
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: bone pretty easily, especially the smaller bones, and you could

768
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: just get it in your mouth like it's it's not

769
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: it's not uncommon for that to happen because their bones

770
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: aren't they're just like they're not always super hard like

771
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: you would like you would think. And actually a wishbone

772
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: is the xyphoid process, which is your you know, the

773
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: bottom of your sternum kind of, and sometimes that could

774
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: be like cartinolaginous or like cartilagic. You could bite through

775
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: it with your teeth. It's not what you would think

776
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: of as a super hard bone sometimes, and depending on

777
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: how old the turkey your chicken is depends on how

778
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: hard it would be. So I think it's it's totally

779
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: possible if you're just like have it in your hands

780
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: and you're like chewing it like that, that you could

781
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: get a bone in your mouth easily and not know it.

782
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: But if you do know it, especially like the biggest

783
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: one that I always saw working in surgical pathology with dishbones,

784
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: because they're so they're so small and they're pointy, they're

785
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: almost like little needles that you're swallowing, and so many

786
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: people had problems with them, and it's like if you

787
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: chew one and by accident you think you swallowed it,

788
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: like you really should just get checked out. Yeah, well,

789
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: I guess it's just like you gotta really watch when

790
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: you're carving the meat and making sure you're not getting

791
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: it in because anybody can have this issue. But they're

792
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: saying most people, most of the time people that have

793
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: the issues are children elderly people. So speaking of children,

794
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: there was another case in which where this mother and

795
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: her child were at Golden Corral restaurant on Thanksgiving and

796
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: eating and the kids started choking on mashed potatoes and then,

797
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: thank god, somebody in the restaurant knew how to do

798
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: the Heimlich maneuver and was able to do it quickly

799
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: and save the kid. Yeah. So choking is most common

800
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: in kids, little kids, and then adults. So when you

801
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: get older and you're just losing your reflexes and stuff

802
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: like that. And I've told the story on here about

803
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: when somebody used it on my sister, right, I don't remember. Well,

804
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: So what this doctor Heimlich discovered in the seventies is

805
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: that if you're choking, there's still some leftover air in

806
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: your lungs, So if you squeeze a person right underneath

807
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: their ribs, you can help expeuse some of that air

808
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: that's in their lungs and push a foreign body out

809
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: of the throat if it's stuck. Right. So that's it

810
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: and catch on for a while, because obviously when anybody

811
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: brings up a new medical idea, there's always people like

812
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: saying it's not a good idea for years until they

813
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: realize that it is a good idea. Typically before that,

814
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: you would just like slap someone on the back, which

815
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: is what you would still do now if you have

816
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: a person that's like unconscious or a baby or somebody.

817
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: Really the first thing you should do is if you

818
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: see that someone's choking and you talk to them and

819
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: you say, like, are you choking? And they're not able

820
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: to talk as the first sign, because typically you would think,

821
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: like when they show you in the movies and stuff,

822
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: like when someone's choking, it's like they're making all this

823
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: noise and stuff, and it's just like, no, no noise

824
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: is coming out because the item is blocked over top

825
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: of the voice box, So there's no way that any

826
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: sound could come out because no air could come out right,

827
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: and you should really ask them, like, hey, can you

828
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: try to cough? Because sometimes if they can cough, like

829
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: could dislodge it, but if not, you should really do

830
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: this heimlick on them. And this happened to my sister.

831
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: We were at the softball field when we were little kids.

832
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like I was thinking about this

833
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: when I was reading this because the doctor Heimlich had

834
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: said this in the seventies and it didn't really catch

835
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: on for ten whole years. So that brings you to

836
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: the early eighties. And this happened probably in like the

837
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: late eighties. So this mom that knew about doing this

838
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: was kind of on top of her shit, especially before

839
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: the Internet and all this stuff, Like you got to

840
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: think about that. And my sister was eating this piece

841
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: of candy that was like a lifesaver, but it had

842
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: it had this center in it that had a whistle

843
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: in it, and you put the life saver thing in

844
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: between your lips and you were supposed to blow out

845
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: air and it made like a whistle sound. Well, she

846
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: put it between her lips and she sucked in. For

847
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: whatever reason. She was young, she was like seven or something.

848
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: She was little. She sucked it in and it went

849
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: in her throat, and this mom who was walking with

850
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: us just happened to notice that she wasn't breathing and

851
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: gave her the heimlick and like got it out of her.

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Speaker 1: And it's just like, that's how fast it could happen

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Speaker 1: to people, you know what I mean. And I think

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Speaker 1: since then that that piece of candy is recalled, or

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Speaker 1: at least it's not sold in America anymore, although I

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Speaker 1: feel like I googled it fairly recently and solid on Amazon,

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Speaker 1: but it's not sold like it was anyway. But but yeah,

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Speaker 1: that it works. It saves lives all the time, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's it's just a way to especially if

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Speaker 1: it's happening to you, like if you're home alone or something.

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Speaker 1: You could do it on yourself by just making a

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Speaker 1: fist and going underneath of your ribs and just pushing

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Speaker 1: as hard as you can. But you also could just

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Speaker 1: basically jam your your body, your abdomen right below your

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Speaker 1: ribs into like a piece of furniture to push something out.

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Speaker 1: Like God, but I gave even imagine avid adies of

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Speaker 1: the like that well, the thing is is that you

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Speaker 1: don't you want it to be like a last resort

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Speaker 1: because you could hurt some money, you could break the

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Speaker 1: rib or you could even like perforate one of their bows, right,

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Speaker 1: so you want to make sure that when you're doing

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Speaker 1: it it's legit. But even if you do, if someone's

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Speaker 1: legit choking and you save them, even if you do

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Speaker 1: break their rib, like who cares, Like that could be fixed.

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Speaker 1: Even a perforated bowel can be fixed. Like if someone chokes,

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Speaker 1: they'll die. So you just look at it that way,

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Speaker 1: So the risk is kind of worth it if if

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Speaker 1: it's necessary. Well, on that note, I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: got some good some good stories to talk about it

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Speaker 1: the dinner, you know what. So there's like this, I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to say anything about a brand

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Speaker 1: name or anything because I I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: it works. But I've seen commercials for some tool that

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Speaker 1: there is that you could have at your house and

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Speaker 1: like stick it in someone's mouth and like suck something

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Speaker 1: out of their mouth or something when I know when

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Speaker 1: they're choking. I don't know, like like if it probably

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Speaker 1: works and it's probably awesome, but just it's just like

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Speaker 1: a weird thing, And I feel like if I had

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Speaker 1: one in my house, I'd be like, where is it?

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Speaker 1: Like it's in a drawer somewhere, and like ripping it

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Speaker 1: out of like ten thousand drawers or whatever. But I

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Speaker 1: guess you could keep it like near the fire extinguisher

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I feel like you would just never, like,

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Speaker 1: if you had it at your house, you would choke

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Speaker 1: in a restaurant. If you had it in your purse,

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Speaker 1: it would be in the car when you choke it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can carry it in your

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Speaker 1: purse because it's kind of big. Oh really, I think

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Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's like a little thing, Like

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't fit in my purse for sure. Maybe those

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Speaker 1: fond to us so we could try it out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you want to practice on that? No? All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. We hope you have a

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Speaker 1: great Thanksgiving. Let us know if you share any of

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Speaker 1: these stories you heard at dinner and how your family

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Speaker 1: received it. Let us know if you ampu sate one

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Speaker 1: of your fingers, or if you kill someone and eat

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Speaker 1: their ribs, or what else did we talk about? Tell

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Speaker 1: you that? But but but if you do, we want

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Speaker 1: to know about it. Yeah, So we will see you

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Speaker 1: guys next week with some more news stories. Have a

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