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Speaker 2: Apply right God Welcome Back, Episode twenty three, twenty.

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Speaker 3: Three Jordan's Yes, we in the zone, like the only

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Speaker 2: So yeah, man, First and foremost, thank you guys for

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Speaker 5: Everybody asked, it's the same thing. This has only been

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Speaker 6: This is a fact.

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Speaker 5: Twenty three episodes a great platform.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate youall having Nah, thank you, thank you. So yeah.

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Speaker 2: Today is a very extremely special episode. We actually was

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Speaker 2: and Chris Gotti, if you're not familiar, so Murder inc

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Speaker 2: So so yeah, so you might know obviously Jaul, but

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Speaker 2: Chris Gotti was one of the founding members.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, me and my brother, you know IRV Gotti boy,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so heavy in the music business. But we're

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Speaker 2: So before we start, I want to tell a story

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Speaker 2: So long story short, we got introduced through a mutual

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Speaker 2: like I said, my man Chris Ran, they murder ain't random.

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Speaker 2: This is these are real jobs, like especially like in

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Speaker 6: Like a plumber.

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Speaker 5: A very good job for something you don't own.

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Speaker 6: But so you.

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Speaker 2: But but you was entrepreneurial enough to see the flip

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Speaker 2: No matter what business it is, NBA construction, the owners

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Speaker 5: As the owner, you have the risk, you should get

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Speaker 6: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: So so because you had to start, I just thought

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Speaker 2: We don't understand the power of a working together enough,

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Speaker 6: It's something that you.

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Speaker 6: Let me actu you construction.

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Speaker 4: I went back to my people again and educate them,

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Speaker 4: Like I can't give you that. You have to want

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Speaker 5: Effect. Yeah, it just started rolling over. But you had

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Speaker 4: So it got really hairy. But again, you know jay

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Speaker 6: So how long did it take to go from you

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Speaker 5: H that was six years?

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Speaker 4: In the height our biggest job was forty almost forty

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Speaker 5: So your millionaires. Yeah, this is this is in construction

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Speaker 4: Blunt Records, TVT Blunt Records another you know label that

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Speaker 5: we started that and put him out.

442
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 4: We had cash money click over there, you got uh

443
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 4: pit Bull, We had Little John so you have Royal Flush.

444
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 4: These were all the artists that was on this little

445
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 4: independent label that we started moving with.

446
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: So all right, So okay, so now we're gonna go

447
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: into the music side, because your your life story is

448
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,160
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Where you you make You become a millionaire

449
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: at thirty one? Yeah, construction got a nice thing on

450
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: forty employees and you you give it up.

451
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 5: I didn't give it right up.

452
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: Okay again this goes back to education too, right, So

453
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 4: I didn't give it right up.

454
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 5: We did.

455
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 4: I did both because music was at night. IRV was like, yo,

456
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 4: he's growing, he needs help. Come back because I started

457
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 4: the music with her. I was managing him and he

458
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 4: had a group he was in and we was doing

459
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 4: a bunch of we wasn't making money. So now he's

460
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 4: making money after the mic g and then he gets

461
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: into death Jam and he's like, yo, come run his

462
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 4: production company top Dog Productions, not not uh top Dog with.

463
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 5: TV, not Kendrick.

464
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 4: He was first, you know what I'm saying, top Dog Productions,

465
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 4: and IRV just wanted to be the biggest and best

466
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 4: producer in the game.

467
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 5: And basically he's like, come run that and sell beats.

468
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 4: He had one producer, Little Rob, and I took a

469
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 4: Little Rob and sold every beat he would have. But

470
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: Little Rob wasn't a volume beat producer, like he would

471
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: make just a few. So but everything he made was fire.

472
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 4: I get it off. So I said, we got a problem.

473
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 4: We have an inventory problem.

474
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 5: I need more. So he's like, what are we gonna do?

475
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: I said, I'm gonna go hire producers, Okay, and that's

476
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: what I did.

477
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 6: All right?

478
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 5: All right?

479
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 2: So that leads us into segment two about the music business.

480
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: So we did the backstory, but now we're on going

481
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: to the music side, which you're probably most famous for

482
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: what people know you for the most all. Right, So

483
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: you start off selling earth Okay, So your brother V

484
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: becomes a producer, yes, and he's selling beats. Yes, and

485
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: he recruits you to help sell the beats for her, right.

486
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

487
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: He told me come run Top Dog Productions from manage

488
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 4: it and run it, you know. And that's what I did,

489
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 4: And I believe I did an incredible job.

490
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 5: When you start at that time, how much of beat's

491
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 5: going for He was making.

492
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: Five thousand when I first started at Top Dog, So

493
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: you know we were selling to like the lower tier

494
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 4: artist five thousand songs.

495
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 6: And you scaled that.

496
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I scaled it. I wrapped that up.

497
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: Here's why I'm making money from construction, and I'm burning

498
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 4: it at both ends.

499
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 5: So I'm going to the studio at nights, construction in

500
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 5: the daytime.

501
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 6: You're still doing it. Construction still doing it.

502
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 4: When I first go over, I couldn't just stop because

503
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: it's it's a business, it's financially and I did it

504
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 4: for about a year and a half, two ends, burning

505
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: at both ends before I said I can't do it

506
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 4: no more. But I took him from five thousand and

507
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: fifty thousand and six months.

508
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 5: And then little Rob.

509
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 4: Who's the producer. He was our main producer at the time. Again,

510
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 4: he would make just enough beats, not a lot. I

511
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: didn't have extra inventory. I always like to talk to it,

512
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: talk to you people in the music industry, just like

513
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 4: his business, because it is. I don't want to treat

514
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 4: it like it's just beats. No, this was our inventory.

515
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: The beats is our inventory, and we didn't have anymore.

516
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 4: I sell it out. How can I make money? So

517
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: then I went in and started assembling that production team

518
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 4: and I found some incredible producers. Chinck Santana, you know

519
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Monster from DC, I bought his first

520
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 4: beat for I asked him. It was a great story

521
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: because I asked him. I said, he's in my office

522
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: and I brought him because Pop, this other artist from

523
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 4: DC came in and I was like, who's the beats

524
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: of those? And he was like, oh, it's Chink. So

525
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 4: I said, next time you come back, bring him. So

526
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: he brings them and we're going through music and I said,

527
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 4: you ever sold a beat?

528
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 5: He said, no, Joe, you know that all that Joe?

529
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 5: Well that DC. No Joe.

530
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: I said, okay, so how much would you want for

531
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: a beat. He's looking He's like, I don't even know Joe.

532
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 4: He's like, I was like, what do you think? He's

533
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: like five hundred dollars. I said, I'm gonna tell you

534
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna buy that first beat

535
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 4: from you for seventy five hundred, and I cut a

536
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: check for the first half. I said, when I sell it,

537
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 4: because I don't have a home for it, I'll give.

538
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 5: You the other half. I said, thirty seven fifty. Win

539
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: gave him a check that day, thirty seven to fifty.

540
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 5: He looked at me. He going crazy. Hey, Joe, I

541
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 5: never saw you know. He was going crazy.

542
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: Because you could have been like y'all had five hundred soul.

543
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do that because I know what our value is. So,

544
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't want I wanted to keep him

545
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: in the same neighborhood. But again I'm like, here you go.

546
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: And then I said, but I want to sign you

547
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 3: to the top Dog.

548
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 5: He said.

549
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: He looked at the chack. He was basically like, whatever

550
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 4: you want to do. He said, you could do this

551
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 4: for me. I said, yeah, I could do this for you,

552
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 4: and sure enough, when he came in, it really changed

553
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 4: everything because he was a volume.

554
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 5: He made a lot of inventory. So where y'all had

555
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 5: death Jam when y'all got him or.

556
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 4: No was was an A and R. A death jam

557
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 4: was an an R a death jam. So that's what

558
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: so basically think about it from that standpoint. I'm making

559
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: music as a producer and I have all this music

560
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: and we're inside of a system, which is death Cham service. Yeah,

561
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: so we just started serving beats. And then once you

562
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: do one, the industry a following industry. Just like everything else.

563
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 4: We make a hat, a hot hat, everyone makes that

564
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 4: hat with their logo on it.

565
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 5: So music's no different.

566
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 4: You make a hot beat and everyone wants a beat,

567
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 4: just like that record you just did. So we started

568
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: getting calls from not just Depth Jam but every record label.

569
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 4: But I got a service on. I need inventory, so

570
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: I started hiring more beats like a.

571
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 5: Red you know DL.

572
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, fingers styles and we man

573
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 4: went on a run and we went from five thousand.

574
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: I just started pushing the tracks the money.

575
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 4: I remember to day, I'll give you a good story.

576
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: Electro Records ODB, they want beats for ODIB. Sylvia Rohn

577
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 4: was running Electro Records. She calls me to come in

578
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: and talk to hers. I said, I want to sell

579
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: some beats to ODIB. She said, all right, I do four.

580
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: How much? At the time, we was only getting twenty

581
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: thousand a track And I said, forty thousand the track

582
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: and she said, no to check.

583
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: I'll cut the check and get it to you.

584
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: So that's first half is eighty thousand. So I'm happy.

585
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 4: I just doubled our value. I'm like great, I go yo,

586
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 4: I sold four beasts to odb IRBs like how much?

587
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 5: You know? IRV is always about the bottom line? How much?

588
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, I show him the check and

589
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: he goes crazy. That's all. That's how. That's how a price.

590
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 5: We ain't going no long, I said, I know, I

591
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 5: got you. Yeah, forty thousands of track.

592
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 4: But we went from forty to fifty to seventy five

593
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: to one hundred in less than a year.

594
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 6: What's the highest you got up to two hundred and.

595
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: Fifty thousand a song? And we was taking six points

596
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 4: on each song. Okay, so a single, if you make

597
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 4: one single, there's ten points on that single. Five points

598
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 4: goes to the producer, five points goes to the writer,

599
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: we was taking six, which means the writer of the

600
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: record had to give us an extra point from their side,

601
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: from their share.

602
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 5: It's one hundred points for total now for an album

603
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 5: one album, right.

604
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: And that's just because of the track work that y'all have. Yeah,

605
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: because you want work. We know what'll we know what

606
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: y'all bringing.

607
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 4: Well, you know it's just being aggressive, you know what,

608
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 4: that's the key. You know, when you're hot in music,

609
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: you could get very aggressive. I was very aggressive and

610
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 4: IRV is super aggressive. So you know when I say

611
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 4: that is because he's pushing me, like go more and more,

612
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 4: and that's what we just kept pushing it up.

613
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: This is interesting because even outside of music, people struggle

614
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: with this all the time.

615
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 6: How how much do you charge for your services?

616
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: Right?

617
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 6: There's something especially entrepreneurs, they struggle with this all the time.

618
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 5: Know your value or your worth?

619
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: And I heard Gary V say something before where he

620
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: was like, if people aren't telling you no, you're too cheap,

621
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: like you gotta so how do you It's a thin line, right,

622
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: just general advice, business and wits. How do you know.

623
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 5: What to charge?

624
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

625
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: Like, how do you say, Okay, I'm gonna go from

626
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: twenty dollars art. Okay, if it's all based on success,

627
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 5: you can't charge two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and

628
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 5: you're giving trash away and the records don't do anything

629
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: for the label or the artist. But when you see

630
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: the result, right, Okay, we could talk now.

631
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 4: Because I know how much you generated, you put I

632
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 4: know what my record generated for your artists and what

633
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 4: that means to your label, and that's how we equate value, right.

634
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 5: And again, don't get it confused.

635
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: The money we was talking the two hundred and fifty

636
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: thousand isn't advanced.

637
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: We didn't make an extra dollar.

638
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: If we took zero, we still make that two hundred

639
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: and fifty gets paid faster. That's all. It's the same

640
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: exact amount of money we generated for every record. Do

641
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: you understand? But it's like, can you break that down?

642
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 5: Okay?

643
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: So if a record generates a million dollars, okay, and

644
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: we was advanced two hundred and fifty thousand, we only

645
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: getting seven hundred and fifty thousand or for the million,

646
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: that's all. It's an advance as simple as that. You

647
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: do not make an extra dollar because you was advanced.

648
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 5: But where the record flops.

649
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: Okay, whatever the record makes, that's where the risk and

650
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: that's why we took and that's why you took in

651
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: advance as.

652
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 5: A producer, right, So as a producer, you know you.

653
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: Understood the value of that music if it's successful in

654
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: their track record, you know, potentially being why that record

655
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: is gonna be successful for an artist you have.

656
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 5: No equity interest in.

657
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 4: But you say, hey, advance me this type of advance

658
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: on that money two hundred and fifty thousand, because you're

659
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 4: gonna make millions of dollars and you could. Again, they

660
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: don't lose any extra Money's all I'm saying. It's just

661
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Speaker 4: an advance, is all it is. It's an advance on

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Speaker 4: the future earnings of that record record, That's all it is.

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Speaker 4: So again, doctor D was getting two hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 6: Getting a million.

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Speaker 2: Somebody who's the highest peg I heard.

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Speaker 4: And I know I know for a fact Rodney Jerkins. Okay,

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Speaker 4: when he was when he was producing for Michael Jackson

668
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Speaker 4: was getting paid a lot of He's getting paid millions

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Speaker 4: of dollars, but there's no return. Michael basically was owning

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Speaker 4: the record, right, so his he was paying in advance

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Speaker 4: on all his publishing and everything. Because it's Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna sell fifty records. That record is gonna be

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Speaker 4: worth well more than what he paid you. But Rodney

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Speaker 4: was really getting paid at that time. Man, he was

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Speaker 4: out in Jersey killing. Shout out to Rodney Jerseys legend.

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Speaker 4: It's all right, So all right, so you guys have

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Speaker 4: a team of producers. Yeah, and you're tearing the game

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Speaker 4: up right, Yes, but then you transition into a label, right.

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Speaker 5: Yes, with that by design?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember you telling me when we was in

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Speaker 2: the studio that, like even DMX, right, like you originally

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Speaker 2: your brother brought DMX.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he brought depth Jam.

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Speaker 4: But just think when you mentioned Blunt Records earlier, he

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Speaker 4: brought him the Blunt Records.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: DMX could easily have been signed to Blunt Records, but

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Speaker 4: we didn't do the deal because we didn't think Blunt

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Speaker 4: had enough power as an independent to move the product

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Speaker 4: the way he needed to be more.

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Speaker 3: Because I remember the original Murder Inc. Being not a

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Speaker 3: label but being a group with jay Z, d MX

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Speaker 3: and jo Rule.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's Irv's original concept what he wanted to do.

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Speaker 4: He thought they was absolutely the best. People don't realize

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Speaker 4: that Jay z DMX. But the one they don't realize

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Speaker 4: is joh Rule was a battle rapper. We used to

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Speaker 4: battle Rule against everybody. So IRV just felt he had

699
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Speaker 4: the most talented artists at that time and wanted to

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Speaker 4: create this supergroup called murder Ring.

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Speaker 3: I had that double Excel cover was on my wall

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Speaker 3: for at least five years. You know, we was this

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Speaker 3: close to so they had to handle They had the bad.

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Speaker 5: That was a great cover.

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Speaker 4: You see their face, but in the back of the

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Speaker 4: cover of that, you see the bats the change.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, right, you guys, you didn't

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Speaker 2: go to college, right, No, you had a background in

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Speaker 2: business because you had a construction company, so you understood

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Speaker 2: business on that.

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Speaker 5: Didn't go to school either, So but how do you all, right,

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Speaker 5: how do you start?

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Speaker 2: You started a record label, but you don't know anything

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Speaker 2: about how to run a business?

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Speaker 5: On you do? But no, no, no, no, I have

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Speaker 5: no clue.

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Speaker 6: How do you figure that out?

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Speaker 5: How to run?

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Speaker 6: How do you?

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Speaker 4: Just like I did in construction sit with lawyers, I

721
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Speaker 4: asked a ton of questions, you know, I you know,

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Speaker 4: don't be afraid to ask or think you something stupid.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna learn, but you learned the hard way to write.

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Speaker 4: You know, your best education is because you lose, right,

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Speaker 4: I don't get. We lost a ton of money because

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Speaker 4: of lawyers that took advantage that you're thinking they're doing

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Speaker 4: the right deal for you, and they're not lawyers. I

728
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Speaker 4: fired all of the best lawyers you could think of it.

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Speaker 5: They all worked for me. I fired them all. They're

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Speaker 5: all in.

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Speaker 4: Bed with the labels. You gotta see, we didn't know that.

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Speaker 4: These are all the things you learned in hindsight, you know.

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Speaker 4: But they're all in bed with the label.

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Speaker 5: So how can I get what I want from the label?

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Speaker 4: And they're busy giving up all the information to the

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Speaker 4: label and blocking me every chance I get. And uh,

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Speaker 4: that's what happened. My best deals happened because I hired.

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Speaker 4: I took the Sugar Sugar Night route, irving myself. We

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Speaker 4: discussed and decided we want the Sugar Knight rowdies. One

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Speaker 4: lawyer only works for you, nobody else.

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Speaker 6: You are his only client.

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Speaker 4: Ron Sweeney took him from Sony Ron Sweeney and Brian

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Speaker 4: Robinson a salary in points or profit.

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Speaker 5: Okay, which is way more than what he was getting.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of what but it's way cheaper for us,

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Speaker 2: how about that? Yeah, No, it's becacause we get better deals. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying. You gotta give up something

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Speaker 2: to get.

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Speaker 6: Something, and you gotta spend money to make money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, people, I said, I'm glad you brought that up,

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Speaker 2: because people do all the time in business where they

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Speaker 2: they skim on important right, Yeah, and that's something that's important, right,

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Speaker 2: So you want to spend money on something that's important, because,

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Speaker 2: like you said, you spent more money on an in

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Speaker 2: house lawyer, but it saved you a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: So I just had this conversation last night in the

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Speaker 4: studio with someone that wants me to be their consultant.

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Speaker 4: And the first question I asked him was why would

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Speaker 4: you pay me to be a consultant? What's your reason?

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Speaker 4: I want to hear your reason. He didn't have an answer.

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Speaker 4: He didn't even know. He's like, I know you know

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Speaker 4: the business, But I said, what's the reasons? Yeah, there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of people to know the business. Why do

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Speaker 4: you want me? Why do you want someone to consult you?

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Speaker 4: What's the reason why? And I said, if you're not

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Speaker 4: understanding that you're not thinking properly. Like the reason you

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Speaker 4: pay consultant is to save money because you won't make

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Speaker 4: a mistake that you might cost you a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: And that's basically what the reason that we went with

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Speaker 4: Ron Swiney. He was he was the head of business

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Speaker 4: affairs for Sony Music, which means he was the head

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Speaker 4: attorney for every business deal at Sony, which means he

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Speaker 4: knows where all the bones is buried, you understand. He

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Speaker 4: knows how all the contracts, where they jerk you, where

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Speaker 4: the money is That he when he came in, And

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Speaker 4: same with Brian Robinson. Brian Robinson was over Universal and

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Speaker 4: we took him. So we had those two as our

778
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Speaker 4: only terms. They couldn't work for no one else, They

779
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Speaker 4: only could work for us, and they got points on

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Speaker 4: the profits all right.

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Speaker 2: So we realized that, you know a lot of people

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Speaker 2: might not know what you went through, right, So it's.

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Speaker 5: A business could Also a good thing.

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Speaker 2: About the story too for the podcast is that we

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Speaker 2: like to paint the real picture of business.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's never all good in business. So you guys experienced.

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Speaker 7: And the decisions you have to make in business, you

789
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Speaker 7: guys experienced the top of the top where you was

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Speaker 7: on top of the world selling beat for two point

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Speaker 7: fifty he was on the number one on for forty

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Speaker 7: eight weeks.

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Speaker 6: It was just unstoppable. What's you calling the unstoppable bird

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Speaker 6: something like.

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Speaker 2: So murder Ink was untouchable, the untouchable murder Ink. Right,

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Speaker 2: So all right, we got up. We gotta talk about

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Speaker 2: Jay Prince. He put this in his book. So this

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Speaker 2: is public knowledge. He put this in his book. So

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Speaker 2: shout out to Houston, my man, dog key, if you're listening,

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Speaker 2: that's my guy. We connected on Instagram. Dripped up and

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Speaker 2: drake down. We gotta go to Houston. We got I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna get Jay Prince on this.

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Speaker 5: Then that's a fact.

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Speaker 6: That's a fact. We got to hear it, Prince. We

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Speaker 6: need you, man, that's a fact. That's a fact. Shout

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Speaker 6: out to h town.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: So Jay Prince told the story about how he met

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Speaker 2: you in his book, right can you story?

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Speaker 5: He loved me to tell that story to you always

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Speaker 5: whenever we went around new people.

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Speaker 4: Chris, come on, tell tell every tell him how we met.

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Speaker 4: But you know it wasn't on good terms. And you

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Speaker 4: know his legend and his name and reputation proceeds him.

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Speaker 4: So when I had found out, IRV calls me and says, seven,

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Speaker 4: we signed to Jay Prince.

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Speaker 5: That's one of your producers.

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Speaker 4: At the time he was about he was one of

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Speaker 4: our main producers and made a lot of records, made

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Speaker 4: a lot of money, and J Prince was basically claiming

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Speaker 4: all the money he made and generated because seven said

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Speaker 4: that's his money.

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Speaker 5: So if he signed a J.

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Speaker 4: Prince, He's like, collect that money and then we'll do

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Speaker 4: Jay reaches out and IRV tells me, you know, you

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Speaker 4: I'm like, great, you know, gre thanks thanks brother, thanks, sir,

878
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: good look good looking. But you know I'm indulgent. So

879
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, no problem. At the time,

880
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 4: Print was home, Yeah, shout out of Supreme, hold your head.

881
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 5: Brother. At the end of the day, Supreme is home.

882
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: And he was at Beaumont, Texas, going to see his

883
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 4: nephew Prince, and he was coming from there out there,

884
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 4: and he calls me and tells, I mean I called

885
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: him and tell him I'm going to Houston. Meet me

886
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: in Houston. He says, no problem. Then I called one

887
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: of my other brothers out there in Houston. Black We

888
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: called him b One. So I called b Be Ones

889
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 4: about that life. So I was like, Yo, donna come

890
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 4: to Houston. I got a problem out there. He said,

891
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: whatever you need, I got you. So I get out there.

892
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: He's like, what's happened. He comes picks me in preem

893
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 4: up and he's like, what's happening. I said, Man, who's

894
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: this j Prince guy? I got a problem And he said, oh, man,

895
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 4: I can't do nothing. He's like, that's the big homie.

896
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 4: Man can help him. So, you know, keep it moving.

897
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: Everyone told me don't go to his ranch. Jay says,

898
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: he calls me up while I'm in Houston. He says, hey,

899
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: come meet.

900
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 5: Me at my red And I'm like, he has a ranch.

901
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 5: He has a ranch. He's a real cowboy, like he's

902
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 5: he's a country boy man.

903
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: You know.

904
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 5: He's the biggest provider of Hey.

905
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said that Black Angus beef.

906
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. People don't know he's a mobile and he's a

907
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: real mobile. But he's the biggest real estate owner in Houston. Yeah,

908
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 4: he's someone you should talk to. He bought his whole hood.

909
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: Fifth Water is his Jay Prince, you know what. So

910
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, they tell me I

911
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 4: got to go to this ranch to meet him. I said,

912
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 4: all right. So he sends two cars, two SUVs for Jay.

913
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 4: It was all presentation. See I know this in hindsight

914
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: now that I'm with that's my brothers. But in the beginning,

915
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm thinking this is some bullshit, Like he sends two cars,

916
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: two people in one four and another and me and

917
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: Preem and Black Black is like, I'm gonna come with

918
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 4: you in case some goes, I try and diffuse it

919
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,479
Speaker 4: and stop it. So I was like, all right, bet,

920
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: so we drive again. I just want to give the

921
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: list the viewers of the vision. When you get to

922
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: this part. We drove for about an hour from where

923
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: we was at. Then we get to this one part

924
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 4: and it says James Prince estates and we see it's

925
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: like a billboard and we say, okay, make the right turn.

926
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: And we drove another twenty minutes from the gate from

927
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 4: that corner to get to the middle of the gate.

928
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: That's how far how much land he has, like and

929
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 4: then two more SUVs come down like this path, like

930
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: dirt path. You see the cloud of smoking. Me and

931
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: Primus looking at each other like yo.

932
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 5: It was nice. No more no.

933
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, it's nice, no you yo, But

934
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna take some Jews with us, like we ain't

935
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: going out alone, man. So they come four more in

936
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: each of those vis We go up to the ranch,

937
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: and when we walk in the ranch, it was like

938
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: the yard. It was like you rightas island in the

939
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 4: yard or somewhere. I mean, it was about sixty seventy

940
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: dudes all over the house. And I'm like, what the

941
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: Me and Primum is looking at each other like yo,

942
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: they gonna kill us. So I'm getting frustrated because he

943
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 4: didn't come right out like you know, we here where

944
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: you're at him? And again we're only fifteen minutes. He

945
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: maybe twenty minutes the most. So I'm getting frustrated. I'm like, yo,

946
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 4: where's Jae?

947
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 5: Who's j Prince?

948
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: Which I don't even know what he looks like like

949
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 4: at that time, I didn't even know what the man

950
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: looks like.

951
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 5: I don't you hear his name and the legend of him.

952
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's gonna be this six' four like dude come,

953
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 4: out and then this little dude comes out in the.

954
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 4: Back he, Says, hey which one of y'all? Kids AND

955
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: i said that's. Me he, said, yeah come, on let's go.

956
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 4: Talk I'm jay in my, Head i'm, like.

957
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: This is what this is all.

958
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: About, yeah j love it WHEN i tell it because

959
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 4: but it's. REAL i promise you it's.

960
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: Real. NOW i kept my, AGAIN i just kept my.

961
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 4: Composure But i'm feeling the pressure of the room and

962
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: all the dudes in just the. Environment then When i'm

963
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 4: walking to the back with, him you see all the stuffed.

964
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: Animals it's not, like not like the ones you want

965
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: from the fucking. Carnival no real fucking animals that stuff and,

966
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: everything and.

967
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 5: It's, like so he's a you can see he's a.

968
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 5: Hunter he's been. Hunting, yeah he's a.

969
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: Hunter and then it's you, know all the hedges on the,

970
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: wall and then you go to his desk and right

971
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 4: behind his desk it's all the assault.

972
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 5: Rifle And i'm, like oh, man this is. Crazy you

973
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 5: know What i'm.

974
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: Saying and then he wants to talk about twenty eight

975
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 4: million dollars that's old to seven and he wants all

976
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 4: of that Because seven told him that's all his, money

977
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 4: to WHICH i, said not a. Chance and you, know

978
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: the MORE i Know, jay the MORE i understand the,

979
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 4: move because the move was really he's going by With

980
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 4: seven told.

981
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 6: Him but he's a.

982
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: He's a man of his, word so if you say

983
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 4: something to, him he's gonna make you honor your. Word

984
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: so WHEN i told him that's not, It i'm, like,

985
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: nah he can't get all of. That as we gave

986
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: him half earth as the other half as the, producer

987
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 4: and that's. IT i, said he doesn't know Jay, z

988
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 4: he doesn't know J, Lo Mariah, carry you Know MARY J.

989
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 5: Blige we. Do AND i, said that's my. Money that's

990
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 5: basically WHAT i told. YOU i, SAID i don't care

991
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 5: what the Fuck sev told. You that's our. Money he said,

992
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 5: okay and that was really.

993
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: The end of the meeting, again and then he we

994
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: went on after, that became really good, friends and things

995
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 4: happened that made us get rid, close you know What i'm.

996
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: Saying but it was a great way like His AND

997
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: i told him his image precedes. Him SO i told

998
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: him the more he talks or the less he, talks the,

999
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: bigger you, know that legend. Grows SO i always tell,

1000
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 4: him why don't get in too much line.

1001
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 5: Light you.

1002
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: Know he put the book, out you know What i'm,

1003
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: saying and the book did, great and it looked like

1004
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: he was a president if you followed him on the

1005
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: ground because he was in so many places the campaign

1006
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 4: he went on with Legendary LIKE i was, like who's

1007
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: your P.

1008
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 5: R in the middle of, it he gets he got

1009
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 5: involved with The drake and put the. Thing it was,

1010
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 5: like this is he.

1011
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 3: Squashed that's not Respond they gave me his.

1012
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 5: Word he's not, responded and we were, like.

1013
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: They, Say drake had the. Track he, said if you

1014
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 3: would have ever released, it, yeah we. Can't he crossed the.

1015
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 5: Line you, know there's only a few. People he's one

1016
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 5: of the biggest PEOPLE i ever.

1017
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 4: Met satrong honestly strongest doe that ever, MAN i give

1018
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 4: it To Jay prince And premu is a, monster but

1019
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 4: he was.

1020
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 5: Not he's not in that.

1021
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: Sense he wasn't in STRONG bmf LIKE i know T

1022
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: i know. Me it wasn't as strong As Jay prince

1023
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: in my. Opinion and it's just it's, crazy like WHEN

1024
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 4: i seen like how he has his not, city that whole.

1025
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 6: Statu you, know he had The kitchakashi when they when

1026
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 6: he was in.

1027
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 10: With his.

1028
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 5: Son, yeah he was like yo, they he was like yo.

1029
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: They.

1030
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 5: YEAH i tried to fix that With. Shoddy hold your, Hands.

1031
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 5: Shoddy you know What i'm. SAYING i tried to fix

1032
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 5: that With. Shoddy.

1033
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 3: Man he, said you keep campaigning the, best you're gonna get.

1034
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: ELECTED i used that all that's.

1035
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 5: You you keep, campaigning you bound to get. Elected that's the.

1036
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 5: STATEMENT i use that. Line. NOW i told Him i'm

1037
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 5: taking it so he can't get pub on.

1038
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: It all, Right so but he sat in The all,

1039
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: right so you meet him and then, yeah, yeah y'all

1040
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: become good good, Yes and then so you'll have an

1041
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: idea to have a black owned distribution company for records with.

1042
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: You, Guys Jay prince rap a lot and shook.

1043
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: Night, yes y'all is gonna come Together East Coast south

1044
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 2: and that's a that's a crazy. Trio and he said

1045
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: in the, book he was, like right when y'all was

1046
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: about to get this off the ground and, running everybody

1047
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: just start catching fake cases and all.

1048
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 6: That and, Yes so then that leads to the.

1049
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 5: COINCIDENCE i don't think so channel that you guys are gonna.

1050
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: Start, yeah we wanted to be a major distribution, company

1051
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 4: just like A, universal and we was gonna cut deals

1052
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 4: with all of the.

1053
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 5: Outlets you, KNOW i Give sugar lot of the.

1054
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: Credit sugar is a super smart man, man and people

1055
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: don't understand some of his business.

1056
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 5: Accliment sugar is a. Predator good dude for, Me, Yes,

1057
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 5: sugar hold your, head good dude for.

1058
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: Me. Yes but we had a we had an ups

1059
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 4: and downs, too and but predator is one thing they

1060
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: respect is that you, know if you stand your, ground

1061
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: they respect. That if you, don't if you show the,

1062
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 4: weakness they're gonna take what you. Got they're gonna eat your.

1063
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 4: Full AND i learned that early from my. Days so

1064
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 4: WHEN i had to deal With, JAY i UNDERSTOOD i

1065
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: couldn't show that and and just like With, SUGAR i

1066
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 4: couldn't show, it so but it all turned.

1067
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: You, know for, us it was those are all great,

1068
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: races probably the reason why they said we could work with.

1069
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: That so With sugar ideas Absolutely sugar was putting it.

1070
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: Together And jay again is a very a super brilliant.

1071
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: Man i'm not shading him at all because he is

1072
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: a genius in his own right from a business.

1073
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: Accliment, also he's very.

1074
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: Methodical he's a chess like everyone moves, differently you see

1075
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 4: how they. Move he's a chess. Player he doesn't speak,

1076
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 4: much you. Know And irv's vision, creative you, know on,

1077
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 4: business and that's where we was coming. Together and When

1078
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,479
Speaker 4: sugar was saying the place we envisioned it and seen

1079
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: that it could really, work and we was, like, wow

1080
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: this is. Amazing and then all of a, sudden this,

1081
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 4: indictment that, indictment you, Know and LIKE i, SAID i

1082
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: don't think that was. COINCIDENTAL i thought The feds really

1083
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: wanted to learn about the hip hop. Culture and what

1084
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: better way to go at it than, go, oh these

1085
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: three are getting, together let's try and chase someone down

1086
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 4: and shake this tree and.

1087
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: See what comes.

1088
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: Out Sam Sam cook actually was trying to do, Something Sam,

1089
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 4: cook that's, right and then they think he's the reason they.

1090
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 5: Got, here got killed, right like he was seriously gets

1091
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 5: killed by some random.

1092
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 11: Woman you, KNOW i hate conspiracy, theories but it's hard

1093
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 11: to some of. These it's hard to deny certain, things

1094
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 11: is What i'm. SAYING i hate it BECAUSE i like, proof,

1095
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 11: RIGHT i like to know. FACTS i don't like to

1096
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 11: talk on. SPECULATION i like to know what's really. Real

1097
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 11: and that's WHAT i. Mean but there's so many.

1098
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: Factors even when you talk about let's say like holistic

1099
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: doctors and then all of a, sudden all these random

1100
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: doctors that got killed it's like or, disappeared.

1101
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 5: Doctor.

1102
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: Sevy there has to be some type of connection that

1103
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: correlates to these. Deaths so it's, like, so, yeah there's

1104
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: a conspiracy, theory but there's a lot of facts.

1105
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: Too.

1106
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: Man so all, right so you guys caught the that.

1107
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: Case so The, feds if anybody's not, FAMILIAR.

1108
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 5: I don't know how we caught a fair. Case but

1109
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 5: you know that's another.

1110
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 6: Story, yeah The.

1111
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: Feds the conviction rate is ninety seven. Percent you don't

1112
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: beat the. Fedes it's almost. Impossible to beat the feds

1113
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: because they put so much pressure on. You they strutsch

1114
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: the cases out for so. Long, well you almost got a.

1115
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: Copy that's.

1116
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 6: Why that's why the conviction rate is so, high because

1117
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 6: most people just cop out and usually your money.

1118
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 5: Runs, Right so you guys had the peak of your.

1119
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 6: Dominance, yes you caught a federal. Indictment what was?

1120
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: That what was? It hit you with the rick?

1121
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 6: Ross so they tied it in with money launch rate

1122
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 6: and supreme that's what They, well you, know it.

1123
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 5: Was a lot more.

1124
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 4: Charges it got dwindled down due to great attorneys and

1125
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: the right. Thing even the money lorder case was. Stupid

1126
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: we was paying think we was charged with a million

1127
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 4: dollars of money on. It, right just to just just

1128
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: use your own common sense from, THERE a million dollars

1129
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 4: of money on it sounds like a, Lot but we're

1130
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: at that moment we're paying tens of millions of dollars in.

1131
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 5: Taxes we're paying eight phees and.

1132
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: TAXIES i was gambling over a million dollars a, week

1133
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: But i'm laundering a million. Dollars it doesn't make any,

1134
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: sense just common. Sense If i'm learning the, Money i'm

1135
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: trying to turn it, clean, Right why WOULD i be

1136
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: gambling a million? Plus oh, yeah they got it's all, documented.

1137
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 3: So so they froze the, assets, right the music. Assets

1138
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: but that's why you still have some things to pull back.

1139
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: On and you said the gambling thing you were imagine

1140
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: Somebody i'm gonna KEEP i was managing Phil.

1141
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 4: Ivy i'm gonna tell you to keep complete. TRANSPARENCY i

1142
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 4: RAN irv made a lot more money than me in.

1143
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: MUSIC i was running out of money in music because

1144
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: they stopped paying. Us so when that money went, DRY

1145
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: i had to find other. Ways but, Gambling i'm pretty good.

1146
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 4: At i'm gonna knock on you, know But.

1147
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 5: I'm pretty good at.

1148
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 4: Gambling and then you, Know i've been gambling since probably

1149
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 4: five years, old. Honestly and then to manage Phil ivy

1150
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: just made probably the best gambler in the. World give

1151
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 4: you more insight and, information which is invaluable for.

1152
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 5: The listeners who don't know Who phil. Is google. Him

1153
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 5: just a superstar poker player amongst. Others michael Or. Poker,

1154
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 5: yeah they called him The Tiger, woods the Poker Michael Jordan.

1155
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 5: Poker he's just the.

1156
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: Best he's black From New, jersey From New, Jersey he's

1157
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: the reason why you have The World series Of poker ON. Espn,

1158
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: yes the reason why the pot has grown up With,

1159
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: yeah he's the reason it grew so big because of his.

1160
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 5: Success and then people took an interest in. Him he

1161
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 5: was a.

1162
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 4: Personality when you looked at all the other poker players

1163
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: that had, success they wasn't. Interesting they wasn't, black that's

1164
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: for damn, sure but they wasn't interesting as a.

1165
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 5: Person they was Very, LISTEN i don't know how to introvert.

1166
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 5: Boring was.

1167
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 4: Boring so at the end of the, day he was

1168
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: the first one to come and put the sway.

1169
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 5: To, us, man we're going. ANYWHERE i take a lot

1170
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 5: of credit for Philm.

1171
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: So all, Right So French French manteta has a line

1172
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: where you say people lost millions trying to beat the, fees,

1173
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: right and you saying you got spent eight. Figures oh,

1174
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: yeah eight figures are your. Money so it wasn't just

1175
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: like so what.

1176
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: What you had to spend money on was attorneys and

1177
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: the attorneys we had to represent us in the case

1178
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 4: for the. Trial wasn't the Attorneys i'm talking. About i'm

1179
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: talking ABOUT i had the biggest law firms, again ignorance is.

1180
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: Crazy we didn't know we HAD i didn't KNOW i

1181
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 4: had to fight the government AND i wasn't charged with

1182
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 4: a crime in the, beginning, Right so we're under. Investigation

1183
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: they raided our. Office we wasn't charged with any. Crime

1184
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: they're just saying we're under. Investigation what does that. Mean

1185
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 4: they're looking at. You, Great look we're making here. Records

1186
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 4: that's what we was telling, everybody, like come, in, look

1187
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 4: there's nothing to, see.

1188
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 5: But we're making all these. Records and then all of a,

1189
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 5: sudden universalis stopped paying.

1190
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 4: Us i'm, like wait a, minute and why they stop

1191
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 4: Paying they stopped paying us because they. Cooperation, yeah they

1192
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 4: cooperated with the government against. Us The United states Of

1193
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 4: america said if you help these, boys we're coming after.

1194
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: You SO i don't think anyone would have cooperated right

1195
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: and try to help. Us any company they would have been,

1196
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: like they would have distanced themself FROM, us no matter

1197
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: how many billions of dollars we've generated for.

1198
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: Them and that's the.

1199
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 4: Facts and then at the end of the, day you,

1200
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: know when you look at irv's, career you, KNOW i

1201
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: USE irv Because i'm a part OF.

1202
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 5: Irv So i'm gonna leave it at irv's.

1203
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 4: Career he brought in Just jay Z, rockefeller, RIGHT, Dmx Rough,

1204
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 4: fridays Joh rul Murder.

1205
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 5: Ring when you count up.

1206
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 4: Just that, alone not counting anything else we did For,

1207
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 4: redman Method, Man Foxy, Brown, Ludacris, nelly not count any of.

1208
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 4: That just those, There we're in the billions of dollars

1209
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 4: of generated. Revenue and that's how executives in the music

1210
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: industry look at those. Executives when you talk about A,

1211
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: jimmy he's gonna tell you all the artists he, had

1212
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 4: so don't discount WHAT irv.

1213
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 5: Did it's the exact same, thing you.

1214
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: Know you, know when you look at some of these executives,

1215
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: again Like jimmy is an incredible, executive probably the best

1216
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: music exec, Ever Jimmy, ivan hands. Down but when you

1217
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 4: look at some of these other, guys they they did

1218
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: very little and made hundreds of millions of. Dollars but

1219
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 4: maybe they was the right side of the.

1220
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 5: Fence they wasn't on the other side of the, tracks

1221
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 5: if you understand What i'm.

1222
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 4: Saying but at the end of the, day they met

1223
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: with very limited amount of, success hundreds of millions of

1224
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 4: dollars was given to them for those assets that they.

1225
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 4: Created and that's the difference in hip hop versus pop

1226
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 4: versus country because they didn't do it WITH.

1227
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 5: R AND b either anything of. Color they didn't give

1228
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 5: it up like.

1229
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: That so THE fats, came they put pressure On Universal

1230
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: Universal flip, said whatever you need to, know we'll tell

1231
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: you basically pretty.

1232
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: Much of, course they just. Didn't they cooperated the. Government,

1233
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: now we can't fight. Everybody at the same, time we're

1234
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 4: in the middle of this. Storm you don't even know

1235
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 4: where all of these things are coming. From not to

1236
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 4: mention fifty, cent, right think about all of the things

1237
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 4: he's doing in the interroom of all of this while

1238
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: we're going and dealing with this thousand pounds.

1239
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 2: Goree you feel that Fifty so a lot of people

1240
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: say that he kind of dry snitch without really. Snitching,

1241
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: no he's.

1242
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 5: Snitched but it's all.

1243
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: Good it's what it, is what it. IS i got

1244
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 4: statements Of Curtis. Jackson, WELL i mean, like but it

1245
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: was like around the states all in my. Paperwork, yes

1246
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 4: SO i don't need to that means he made. Statements

1247
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: what do you call?

1248
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 5: THAT i don't.

1249
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: Know it's just again when we went out and if

1250
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: we said, that no one would believe it or no.

1251
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 4: One you, know success has a way of blurring your, vision,

1252
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 4: right he was super, successful so he's the number one.

1253
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: Artist he was killing.

1254
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 5: It he was killing. It people want to believe that.

1255
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 5: Story you, know it's all. Good it is what it.

1256
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 4: Is it's no crying over spilled milky is what it.

1257
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: Is but the facts of the facts that. Don't you're

1258
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: not going to get me to lie and tell you something.

1259
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 4: Different did he Tell, yeah he told. Stories he told

1260
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 4: him that were trying to kill. Him he told him that, lies,

1261
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: like come, on you're trying to get us. Deterred and

1262
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: then that's these are things that, happened you know that

1263
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 4: happened with. HIM i you, know this is a financial,

1264
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: discussion but this all affected, business, Right it's all affected.

1265
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 4: Business SO i don't want to deter off of. It

1266
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: but you, know they only protect their. Own they wasn't

1267
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 4: coming to protect nobody. Else they protected. Him they made

1268
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 4: sure he was, safe like it's a. Lie in The

1269
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 4: United states Of, america the federal, system the federal, government

1270
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 4: the police, department they all took care of this. Man

1271
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 4: so you know why is THAT i don't get, it

1272
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: but you, KNOW i let him tell the. Story it

1273
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: doesn't matter to. Me we're, here it's a different. Day

1274
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 4: that's a long time. AGO i know who you, are

1275
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 4: you know WHO i, am and it's all.

1276
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 5: Good you know What i'm. Saying people ask, me got?

1277
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 5: BEEF i know. BEEF i don't even know the. MAN

1278
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 5: i don't know. HIM i can't have a beef with

1279
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 5: SOMEONE i don't. Know and, yeah you could sit and

1280
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 5: talk and all. THAT i don't know what. YOU i

1281
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 5: don't know. You we never did, Business, well we did do.

1282
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,440
Speaker 4: Business this is how crazy we didn't do. Business he

1283
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 4: was On Columbia. Records Tina davis was HIS. Amr over,

1284
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 4: there an executive over. There shout Out tina fifty one.

1285
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: Music he paid a first half of one hundred. Thousand

1286
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 4: we was making fifty thousand a song at the, time

1287
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 4: and he paid for four. Songs so he got one

1288
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 4: hundred thousand for the first half For earth got Absolutely,

1289
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 4: Earth God. It, no we never got to, produce but he.

1290
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: Would why would you pay it if you didn't want

1291
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: to do business with? Us he, Paid so why would

1292
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: you Allow why would you allow your record label to

1293
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 4: put up one hundred thousand dollars of your budget TO

1294
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: Irv god your Top Dog productions to make four songs

1295
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: for you if you didn't want to work with you,

1296
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 4: KNOW i don't.

1297
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 5: UNDERSTAND i don't really don't. KNOW i.

1298
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 4: Know we tried to have multiple. Meanings it never, happened

1299
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 4: but he would never show. Up but at the, end

1300
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: like to just, squash, like what's the.

1301
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 5: Problem we don't know?

1302
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 4: You Like john didn't know, him he Knew Black, child

1303
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 4: he Knew, caddy but we didn't know. HIM irv didn't know.

1304
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 4: Him earth definitely didn't know, him AND i don't know.

1305
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 4: Him And jul didn't know, him but he Knew Black,

1306
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 4: child Knew. Caddy so why can't this work? Out he

1307
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: was being managed By, supreme he was being managed By.

1308
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 4: Chaz you're, saying you, know and so was He. Chazz

1309
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 4: you Know, chazz you know Black hand was managing. Him

1310
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 4: so in the beginning, Day so how.

1311
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 5: Do you not try and resolve? Whatever where's the real?

1312
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 5: Problem it isn't.

1313
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 4: One it's, like, well you, know smoking, mirrors, man this

1314
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 4: is not a real. Industry where we're not in a real. Industry,

1315
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 4: well this is the problem with. Fans this is not

1316
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 4: a real. Industry this is this is about. Entertainment this

1317
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 4: is about again money and entertainment. Again six,' nine, perfect

1318
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: example told. On everyone he's so some. Tough, guy, yeah real.

1319
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 4: Real tough forget. About it it's.

1320
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 5: Not real. It's fake. It's entertainment. You know fifty is.

1321
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 4: No different he. Was entertaining he made. Great records they

1322
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 4: didn't think of. What happened He gets jim iv in,

1323
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 4: with him the best, Executive Ever, doctor dre the best

1324
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 4: producer ever in, hip hop And then eminem the biggest

1325
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: artists in hip hop at.

1326
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 5: That time are you?

1327
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 4: Kidding me how can? You lose, you know people don't

1328
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 4: understand He. GETS game I had. Game first like it's

1329
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 4: so much stuff that's not told that people just.

1330
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 5: GO no i was in. THE process i was Working.

1331
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 5: WITH game i was made mad Records. With game Shout.

1332
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 5: Out game you Know what.

1333
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 4: I'M saying i was Going, to compton picking, him up

1334
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: bring him, the studio. Making records he was. Constantly Talking

1335
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 4: baron davis Brought, me Game and i'm trying to get

1336
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 4: erv To sign game and work it and. Make music

1337
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden he called me, AND

1338
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 4: says i Got. Doctor dre so he wasn't signed at

1339
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 4: FIFTY in. G unit perception THINKS he's.

1340
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 5: G unit this is what people. Don't get he was

1341
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 5: signed To doctor dre and, After that but doesn't it

1342
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 5: make better sense TO be. G unit.

1343
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 4: It's business so when you think, Murder, rink okay we're

1344
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: generating nine figures, in revenue HERE comes.

1345
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 5: G unit REALLY not g. Unit aftermath it's only a.

1346
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 4: Lateral move take, my money put it. Over there that's

1347
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 4: all it Was. For universal they.

1348
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 5: Don't care.

1349
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 6: Is, business yeah was All. Under universal we're All.

1350
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 4: Under universal they were on The. Nscope universal we're On Deaf.

1351
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 4: Jam universal so it.

1352
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 5: Didn't matter it's Just. A niverse it's. A, slide yeah

1353
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 5: push that.

1354
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 4: Money there you think they care If they if that slide,

1355
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 4: didn't happen they, Would care but because, it happened they.

1356
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 5: Don't care.

1357
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: You Know, for vendi Who owned universal at, the time

1358
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: was trying to get in touch with us because they

1359
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 4: wanted to know what's going on with, The case like

1360
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 4: what get out.

1361
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 5: Of here there's nothing going on. The case we're making.

1362
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 5: Hit records but that lets you know how high up in,

1363
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 5: the System the.

1364
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 4: Universe system we was being talked about and, dealt, with

1365
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 4: right you think You think vivendi was TALKING.

1366
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 5: ABOUT g unit or any.

1367
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 4: Other label they only care because we was losing. The

1368
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 4: Money us junior. Got popping they're gonna talk ABOUT g

1369
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 4: unit at. That moment do you Understand what? I'm saying at,

1370
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 4: that moment they're not THINKING, G unit they're. Thinking murdering

1371
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 4: all this money is about to go down. To drain

1372
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 4: what's going on with?

1373
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 5: You guys is?

1374
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 4: Everything okay you know Under saying and that's, what happened

1375
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 4: and then it gets shifted. Over there from a, corporate

1376
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 4: standpoint it's. No loss it's probably. A win they went

1377
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: up and.

1378
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: You said you said something that like when they they

1379
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 2: had you guys sign something like if y'all lost.

1380
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 5: The, case yeah so while during our trial we had

1381
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 5: to sign over to you to so we could.

1382
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 4: Get, Money right usually we was talking about how the

1383
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 4: government they they they stop all your revenue. From coming

1384
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 4: that's why. They win they you cannot fight them because

1385
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 4: you run out. Of resources, you know someone TOLD, me

1386
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: inc you know ink not, not MURDERING just inc is.

1387
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 4: Unlimited RESOURCE because i got, unlimited ink so they could

1388
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 4: write things, about you which they did they, you know

1389
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: there's very strategic in, their approach and it's like, in

1390
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 4: hindsight you, learn it you don't know why you're in.

1391
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 4: The storm so just imagine all these things going on

1392
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 4: and the government is sitting there stopping everything financially.

1393
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 5: For us what are we.

1394
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 4: Gonna do we're gonna run out of money at some

1395
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: point and then now here this offer so we could

1396
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 4: get if we go, To jail universe would have. Owned

1397
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 4: everything you want to talk about some. Scumbag, business okay

1398
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: think About what i'm. Telling you I'm facing i'm fighting

1399
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 4: for my life. In court we signed that in court

1400
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 4: room while we're in.

1401
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 5: The middle of. Our trial this Is what universal did.

1402
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: To Us so universal comes in the middle of the

1403
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 2: trial with paperwork, that says if you lose, your case

1404
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: we own, everything everything and, doing that they gave. You

1405
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: money they cut a check that they owed us so

1406
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: we could continue.

1407
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 4: To pay but that's what, they did you Know what,

1408
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying so we could continue to pay legal we

1409
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 4: was paying. PRIVATE investigators i investigated everyone next to ME

1410
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: because i wanted to.

1411
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: Know who, my DEALER and i. LET it i want

1412
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: people to really understand and see that in so in

1413
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: the middle of a. Federal trial you went to jail for. Twenty,

1414
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: years yes somebody from universe who comes, and, says look

1415
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: WE have x amount of dollars in. The courtroom but

1416
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: in order to get, this money sign this paper and if,

1417
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 2: you lose we're gonna take everything that.

1418
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: You, build everything it's. Ours ours you have no real

1419
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 5: choice but to sign it because you. Need, money right

1420
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 5: they found. Your vulnerable but now we, REALLY dice, i said.

1421
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 4: But this game was the this was crazy crazy and

1422
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 4: how again it was a, crazy risk but we was running.

1423
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 4: Our options so we do, the deal we win, the

1424
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 4: case we, own everything and then they don't want to

1425
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 4: do a deal. With us took us over two years

1426
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 4: to get that next. Deal back so you're sitting there

1427
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 4: with no. Generated revenue THAT'S why i went, into sports

1428
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 4: you Know what. I'M saying i went, into insurance. He

1429
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 4: fund this is all, the time the ERA when i

1430
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 4: started all. Of these after those, two years we didn't

1431
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 4: get our. Deal back we thought we was going to

1432
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 4: run right back into a, deal nothing so.

1433
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: All right, So okay so now that leads into the

1434
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 2: conversation of what you're. Doing now because the distribution thing

1435
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: started with that and listening, the studio you was explaining

1436
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: how what you're doing Now with adventures you're distributing independent music.

1437
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 6: To, platforms yes like a. Distribution channel i'm a.

1438
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 5: Distribution Company, season yeah.

1439
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: BECAUSE because i don't think a lot of can we

1440
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: just break down because there's a lot of independent artists,

1441
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: out there and especially now right they may Not know

1442
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: so as an, independent artist how do you get? Your,

1443
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: music well we know how to get to, music now

1444
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: but before like what was the how does the independent

1445
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 2: artist get that music onto.

1446
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 5: Before the internet or After.

1447
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: The internet like Before, the internet you could still go directly,

1448
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 4: to iTunes but now they put a lot more criteria

1449
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 4: on it because they're trying to eliminate. The volume if

1450
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 4: you don't come through an aggregator, like myself a, toom

1451
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 4: CORE a. Cd baby they don't want that business From

1452
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 4: Just john Doe, From boise idaho putting their.

1453
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 5: Music up they want you to go through.

1454
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 4: An aggregator so that's another way of them, blocking, things

1455
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 4: right they got. To control everything is about control, and

1456
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 4: blocking so that's what. They're DOING so i have, A Company,

1457
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 4: adventure MUSIC and i do digital distribution for independent ARTISTS

1458
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 4: and i get you on all of, those outlets all

1459
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 4: those DSPs that would allow your music to be either

1460
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 4: streamed or downloaded. For money and then, you know we

1461
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 4: take a percentage just like any, distribution company, you know

1462
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 4: and you get.

1463
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 6: The balance so it all. Has COMPANY but i don't own.

1464
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 6: Your music they still.

1465
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 5: Own him, the artist, whoever is whoever is that person

1466
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 5: is that's putting the, music up is the owner of.

1467
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 5: The music so the benefit of it right as an.

1468
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 3: Independent artist Let's say i'm an, INDEPENDENT artist i can

1469
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 3: put the music, up, MYSELF right i can put it

1470
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: on A sound why don't we go to ADVENTURES because i?

1471
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 4: Have things when you, Say SoundCloud SoundCloud is not a

1472
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 4: real place to. Get, monetized okay it's mostly, free music

1473
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 4: but it's one of the number one places for independent

1474
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 4: artists to get to.

1475
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 5: Get RECOGNIZED so I.

1476
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 4: Encourage SoundCloud and now they did start a monetization side,

1477
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 4: of it so you can't, do it but you gotta,

1478
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 4: fit again it's a criteria to get to fit.

1479
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 5: Into it so but Let's Say apple Music or title,

1480
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 5: you could.

1481
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,400
Speaker 4: YOU can't i delivered over two, hundred locations which is

1482
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 4: typically more than ninety five percent of all the other

1483
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 4: aggregators that, does distribution but.

1484
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 5: Then the real.

1485
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 4: Secret sources i'm part. Of education i'm teaching you the

1486
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 4: reason you should do what you need to do from a.

1487
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 4: Business standpoint from if, you know every independent artist is A.

1488
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 4: MINIATURE universal I use universal all the time because they're

1489
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 4: the biggest. Record label so whatever they're doing to monetize,

1490
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,520
Speaker 4: their business you should.

1491
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 5: Be doing the.

1492
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 4: Same way just you're, just, Small right but they know.

1493
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,600
Speaker 4: The game they know how to monetize this music that,

1494
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 4: you're doing so you should. Follow suit you should understand

1495
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 4: don't try and reinvent the wheel because they know how

1496
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 4: to do it. The, best now you could do other

1497
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 4: things added on that they may not do and try

1498
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 4: because you might change. The game but follow the business

1499
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 4: acclement of what, they do and you'll be in a.

1500
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 4: Great place, you know the number way music record labels

1501
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 4: make money. Is catalog, you know that's the number one

1502
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: revenue stream all the. Old Music so i'm trying to.

1503
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: Teach artists they tell me they got a hundred songs in,

1504
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 4: their Computer and, i'm like, that's money but you don't

1505
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 4: get it because it's in.

1506
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 5: Your computer and.

1507
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 4: If you go to these other companies they charge you

1508
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: every month to keep your music out to, distribute it which. Is,

1509
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 4: counterproductive RIGHT if i, HAVE to i want to be

1510
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 4: able to put my music out and it sits there

1511
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 4: as long as that. COMPANY'S open i don't want it

1512
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 4: to be returned to me or. TAKEN down i wanted

1513
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 4: to sit there because if it could make, A dollar

1514
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 4: i want to make. A dollar if it could make one,

1515
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 4: HUNDRED dollars i want one, hundred dollars and it could

1516
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 4: be in, ten years, twenty years it.

1517
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter that's what. Music is.

1518
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 4: You, know uh give me AN. Album dmx we was

1519
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 4: Just talking. Dmax depth jam is not making a dollar

1520
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 4: of marketing.

1521
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 5: Costs into that. Album anymore that is pure.

1522
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 4: Profit one every dollar is on top of whatever they,

1523
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 4: already generated and that will. Sell, forever right. It's timeless

1524
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 4: it's gonna get. Played forever it's gonna generate. Revenue forever

1525
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 4: that's the game you're in as, an artist and you

1526
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 4: need to know how. To play and that's what we

1527
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 4: TEACH it a benure.

1528
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 5: Music, powerful no.

1529
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 6: That's powerful. That's powerful.

1530
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: We want to thank you. For, coming, oh definitely that

1531
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: was a lot a lot of. Information information that's.

1532
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 6: A fact that's.

1533
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 5: A fact i appreciate you.

1534
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 4: Guys, though man this is a great platform for everybody

1535
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 4: to really learn business and what.

1536
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 5: To do you give them. Credible advice both of, you guys.

1537
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: INCREDIBLE advice i.

1538
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 6: Appreciate You christ chris is also a two.

1539
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 5: Time, Champion, dykeman.

1540
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah not.

1541
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 5: Well again.

1542
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 4: Dominican power I'm. With mikey, YOU see i Got my.

1543
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 4: Dominican power mikey is uh, You know mikey. The mayor

1544
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 4: he's up.

1545
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 5: There killing it. Right now got some incredible PLAYS and

1546
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 5: i think we're gonna get. This year they showed us

1547
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 5: some love. Up there if you, Don't, know dykman you

1548
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 5: need to be there game in the City Of New.

1549
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 6: York, city now if you haven't Been To New, york

1550
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 6: city you gotta come In going, dominican playing and You gotta.

1551
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 6: Friday night that's. A fact that's the lights.

1552
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 5: And time that's.

1553
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 6: A Fact.

1554
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 2: Shouted, dykment Yeah. Shouted dykeman, for sure shout Out The

1555
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: New york city. Street, walls definitely, the culture it's a culture.

1556
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 2: Within itself how can people contact you or get information

1557
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: on adventures independent artists if they want to get their music?

1558
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: Out there Or Definitely I'm chris gotti one eight seven

1559
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 4: on all social media platforms And adventures Music dot com

1560
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 4: is THE WEBSITE a D D V e N t

1561
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 4: U r e S music Music Dot com Adventures because

1562
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 4: i'm adding ventures together for all, these artists these.

1563
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 5: Independent artists that's where the name.

1564
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: Came from now, that's dope that's and you also said

1565
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: that you have like you can they can get different services.

1566
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 5: LIKE absolutely i have services everything you could.

1567
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 4: THINK of i tried to make a menu list of

1568
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 4: all the services That say universal would do for you

1569
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 4: and create that list for an. Independent artist the difference is, price,

1570
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 4: Point RIGHT so i could roll you out if you

1571
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 4: had the money you want to, roll out Like Your,

1572
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 4: RICK ross i could.

1573
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 5: DO that i have all the people.

1574
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 4: In place but if you only have a couple dollars

1575
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 4: one hundred bucks, two hundre there's things you could do

1576
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 4: that will help get your record. Out there and THAT'S

1577
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 4: what i. Do too so it's a it's a variety of.

1578
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 4: Different services if you need a, video man you need

1579
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 4: your record mix. The MASTER like i, tell everyone the

1580
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 4: power of mixing mastering is because you're competing against the.

1581
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 5: Best artists once, you delivered so if your music doesn't.

1582
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: Sound right, you know you've ever been in the club

1583
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 4: and they play a record from somebody and that record

1584
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 4: sounds like a little lower and then you play the

1585
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 4: records that are.

1586
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 5: Out and it goes. Back up that's. The problem that's

1587
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 5: why you need to mix the master.

1588
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 4: Your record you're Competing, with drake even though you don't,

1589
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 4: understand that and you know one record could, change everything

1590
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 4: so you want to always have the. Best chances it's

1591
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 4: just about, being prepared and it's at your. Resource level

1592
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 4: But what adventures Will Do once i'm finished with, the

1593
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 4: Platform because i'm still building the, TECH out i will

1594
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 4: be one of the biggest marketing FIRMS and i will

1595
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 4: have money for every independent artist based.

1596
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 5: On, social media, all genres, every artist and that's going

1597
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 5: to be the.

1598
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 4: Game changer That's when universe is gonna have to get out.

1599
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 4: Of here THAT'S when i closed. THEIR doors i got

1600
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Speaker 4: a little bits always COMES to i.

1601
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 5: Got a little beef for a. Few guys but it's

1602
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 5: all good and he.

1603
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 6: Knows them we want to thank you. For coming man,

1604
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 6: for sure some housekeeping.

1605
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 5: Items. True man patreon is doing. Really.

1606
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Speaker 3: Well man shout out to everybody that is being subscribing To.

1607
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Speaker 3: Our patreon Uh that's patreon At. Backslash ernalisia it's just

1608
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Speaker 3: a way to support. The podcast like we say, each

1609
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 3: episode we've been getting some some. New members shout Out

1610
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Speaker 3: to Siena and Vicky, and tiana and shout out to Our.

1611
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Speaker 5: Guy tony we had a great conversation.

1612
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 3: With, him man he was telling us how we've been,

1613
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 3: inspired him and what we took away was like how

1614
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: much his conversation inspired us to keep. Going right He's

1615
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 3: In north carolina and telling us like he just wants

1616
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: to help whatever he can do to help us grow.

1617
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: This thing he's willing. To do and that was just

1618
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 3: from you Know him patreon and and getting a conversation.

1619
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Speaker 3: With us so shout out to him and everybody that

1620
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: that's supporting, the podcast whether it's on getting the merch the,

1621
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Speaker 3: you know the asset of a liability shirt is, doing

1622
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Speaker 3: well the hustle for your, Last.

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Speaker 5: Name i'm Wearing. The yeah we got. The tour. You

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Speaker 5: know our first stop Was. L a We. Did brooklyn

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Speaker 5: we got a couple.

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Speaker 2: Of cities shout out to the To, the brooklyn We,

1627
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Speaker 2: Did crazy we did a. Networking meeting Great, in, Brooklyn

1628
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: nice like three hundred people. Came out was like a rappers.

1629
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 2: In store it, looked crazy.

1630
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 5: It was it was A good listen, to me this

1631
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 5: is one of the best podcasts. OUT there i appreciate

1632
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Speaker 5: that something but good.

1633
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Speaker 3: Things coming everybody that's, supporting it either getting the marriage Or,

1634
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 3: doing patreon we.

1635
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 5: Appreciate it love.

1636
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Speaker 2: Is, love, yeah yeah, so yeah we come into a city.

1637
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: NEAR you i think the next stop is going To.

1638
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 2: Be atlanta were on.

1639
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 5: The tour on the, moving around.

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01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: We, people atlanta D. M v i want to Go, To,

1641
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: Houston toronto. Canada too we got We Said, jay prince

1642
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 2: so we gonna Go. To houston you gotta.

1643
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 5: Check in.

1644
01:16:57,680 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 3: What we're trying to do is that when we go

1645
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: to these tours with we're trying to bring people who've.

1646
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 5: Been on if you go, out there if He's, IN

1647
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 5: houston i definitely think. You are now officially with.

1648
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Speaker 2: The book tip since we just Talked About jay Prince

1649
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: is i'm gonna say his, Book Please the Art, Of

1650
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: Respect the Art.

1651
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 6: Of respect it's a.

1652
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: GOOD book i listened to an audio Book on iTunes

1653
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Speaker 2: AND so i definitely. Recommend it it tell us his.

1654
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Speaker 2: Whole story It has chris and It has chris story,

1655
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Speaker 2: in it so definitely make sure y'all y'all check.

1656
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Speaker 6: That out, and yeah and We're. On twitter we need some,

1657
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Speaker 6: CUB jay i need Some pub, oh, yeah yeah.

1658
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Speaker 5: We're on twitter now to us a fact we just Got.

1659
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Speaker 6: On twitter Lesi. On twitter.

1660
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Speaker 2: Follow that subscribe to our YouTube channel, as well and.

1661
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Speaker 5: Out adventures if you, sign up. Let's go that studio.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate we see you. Next. Week please.

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