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Speaker 1: I am all in again with Scott Patterson in iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in Podcast. One of

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Speaker 1: them productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast. Another recap here seeing

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Speaker 1: three episodes sixteen and we have the Big One. That

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Speaker 1: is the name of the episode air date February twenty fifth,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three. We're joined by Justin Urik. It's

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Speaker 1: an actor in multiple worlds, big name TV shows the

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Speaker 1: late nineties, early two thousands, er West Wing, Once and Again, CSI,

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Speaker 1: and one episode of Gilmour Girls as Dean's friend in

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Speaker 1: his bachelor party. He owns multiple restaurants in southern California,

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Speaker 1: one called Mama Said Yes and the other Naluvida. Justin

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: God, thank you very much for having me. I'm thrilled

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Speaker 2: to be here today.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately I was only in one episode of gilmore

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Speaker 3: Girls because I had a fantastic time on set.

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Speaker 2: But it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: That is one more episode than most people on the planet.

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Speaker 3: I still it's funny, even from that one a little

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Speaker 3: bit of an episode. I still get fan mail from

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Speaker 3: time to time for Gilmore Girls, which I find amazing.

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Speaker 1: And from all of the residual checks, you saved up

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Speaker 1: and bought a couple of restaurants, build up a restaurant.

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Speaker 3: It's funny that you say residual check because I think

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Speaker 3: I just got one last week from the Gillmore Girls,

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Speaker 3: and I think eleven cents.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, sometimes there are eleven cents. Yes, this is true.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Here's a synopsis for this episode. It's a big Rory

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Speaker 1: in Paris episode. If you're fans of Rory and powers us.

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Speaker 1: They compete for a big speech but end up having

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Speaker 1: to work together, and Paris spills the big news about

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Speaker 1: her personal life on c SPAN. Lareli runs into Max

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Speaker 1: Medina and Suki and Jackson are pregnant. Directed by Jamie Babbitt,

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Speaker 1: Written by Amy Shern Palladino. Overall, what do you think

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Speaker 1: of this episode?

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Speaker 2: Justin you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: Rewatching it, it gave me a lot of anxiety. I've

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Speaker 3: got I've got kids. I've got a five year old,

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Speaker 3: They're all boys, so a little bit different, but seeing

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Speaker 3: You know, it was it was a little uncomfortable to

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Speaker 3: the end is because I mean, it's it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: But you know, she exposed herself on c Span.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm when you're talking about Paris not getting into

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Speaker 1: Harvard and ye and uh over overreacting. Yeah, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm right there with you. I was stressed

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Speaker 2: Scott. Do you have kids, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: You know, with social media today and in a public forum,

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Speaker 2: who you were. Who was the casting director.

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Speaker 1: At the time, Mark Casey and Jamie Real Mark Casey.

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Speaker 3: So Mark Casey, she had already hired me for some

446
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Speaker 3: some things previously. I came in and had an audition

447
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: and got got thrown onto the onto the fire.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice. So what do you remember about your time

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Speaker 1: on set? How many days did you have on set?

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Speaker 3: I was only I was there two days. I was

451
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: there two days and it was very I remember it

452
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: being very pleasant and like I said before, a well

453
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 3: oiled machine. It was not a whole lot of sitting around.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've been doing this for years, you know

455
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Speaker 3: how it can be on set. I remember that that

456
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: set in particular, was so fast paced that they just

457
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: had it all dialed in and I'd come in make

458
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: up for thirty minutes, maybe sit for another thirty and

459
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Speaker 3: then you film.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a lot to do with had you

461
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Speaker 1: cram a lot of stuff and a lot of dialogue.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it moved very quickly.

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Speaker 3: I appreciated that because it's like I felt like, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'd have twelve fourteen hour days on some sets, and

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Speaker 3: this one was two and a half three hours at most.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you've left the industry, and it's funny.

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Speaker 3: And when I say I've left the industry, I got

468
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: tired of auditioning and the auditioning process. Luckily enough, I

469
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: still have friends that are in the industry and they'll

470
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Speaker 3: send me a script once in a while they say

471
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Speaker 3: would you be interested in doing this?

472
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Speaker 2: And I'll say yay or nay.

473
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Speaker 3: I still do some voiceovers from time to time, have

474
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: my little setup and home I got auditions, and my

475
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Speaker 3: last one that I did was for Nissan Innovation.

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Speaker 2: That excites. So still dabbling a little bit, but my main.

477
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: Focus is absolutely my my my restaurants and my growth

478
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: of my businesses.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just you do get tired of auditioning.

480
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Speaker 2: I did it.

481
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: You know everything's on tape. Now, you get a self

482
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Speaker 1: tape now. So I did a little audition last night.

483
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: Took me about five seconds. I held up my phone,

484
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Speaker 1: I said two lines and I sent it in. That

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Speaker 1: was it. That's the audition.

486
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Speaker 2: And you have an awesome look now much different than

487
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Speaker 2: it used to be.

488
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: Like I want to buy some narcotics from you, or

489
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: I want to be next to you on a horse.

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Speaker 1: You know I can. I can arrange for all of that.

491
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: This is what I could like all at the same time.

492
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: I get you the narcotics, you could be on a

493
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: horse same day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you look great. I love I love I

495
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Speaker 2: love about that.

496
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: This is I was in the hospital, so this is

497
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: like this is a hospital beard.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, well then I take it back. You don't

499
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: look good.

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Speaker 1: That's where I got the drug. I have so much

501
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: hydro it's not even funny. Do you miss acting at all.

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00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 3: I, you know what I absolutely do, and but I

503
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: get to I get to get a little bit of

504
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: my fill because I am in charge of most of

505
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: my social media at one of my places, Mom said yes,

506
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: and Torrence, I do all of the social media for that,

507
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: so I get some of my creativity of that.

508
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: And it's not just a standard, you know.

509
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 3: I definitely ham it up and the neighborhood and the

510
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 3: people come in, You're the guy Instagram like yeah, yeah.

511
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 3: From time to time I get people saying, hey, you're

512
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Speaker 3: the guy from how High?

513
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do you know that? That was?

514
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 3: You know, over twenty years ago and I have no

515
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: more hair. But when you have people that are are

516
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: true fans to call classics, you know, they call you out,

517
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 3: which is you know, I find that fun. And then

518
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: if they do that in front of one of my kids,

519
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: they're like, what are they talking about?

520
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 2: I said, I can't show you.

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00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: My kids always want to watch my shows and ninety

522
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: nine percent of what I've done is not appropriate for

523
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: any of my children. I showed them an episode I

524
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 3: didn't I was on Secret World of Alex Mack. I

525
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: was able to show them that, and I showed them

526
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: I had a recurrent role on Third Rock from the Sun.

527
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 2: So I was able to show them those because those.

528
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 3: Were you know, toned down. But everything else is you know,

529
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: just not appropriate.

530
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: So how's Instagram helping your business? Because it's a good platform.

531
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if you use that right, it can really help.

532
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you use it correctly.

533
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: And it's funny because I've you know, I went from

534
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: when Instagram first started to you know, I hired influencers

535
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: and I have found that I've spent a lot more

536
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: money on.

537
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: Geting people to do it where I haven't seen the

538
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: ROI versus if I do it myself. And you know,

539
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: when you when you.

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00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: Dig into the little algorithms, it can be very very useful.

541
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: But again, it's just like anything. It's just like TV film.

542
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: It's all about connection and that's what all of us

543
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: want and that it goes the same with you know,

544
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: this day and I don't use Instagram for myself to

545
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: choose a place to go and dine or to go

546
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 3: to watch, but everyone else in my demographic hunder is

547
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: yeah if they if I can connect with them on

548
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: any of my socials uh and cross traffic, uh, you

549
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: know which it does.

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Speaker 2: I'm very blessed for that. So, uh yeah, I think

551
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: it's a great platform. I'm not a TikToker.

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00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: Uh, Instagram is pretty much as far as far as

553
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 3: I go, but it is it has been very very useful,

554
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: especially over the last two years.

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00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting platform, all right. So mama said yes.

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00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: And Bay and Dangers, yeah, could could be Yeah. Uh,

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00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: Mama said yes in South Bay yep, Torrents uh not

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00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: in Torrance, uh nalu vida in Venice, Venice Beach, Uh

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Speaker 1: tell us, tell us what the big nights are in there?

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00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: Wow?

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00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: Okay, well, Venice Beach, I would I would absolutely come

562
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: down here on on one of our weekend days because

563
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: on the weekends, on second Saturdays, we have a live entertainment.

564
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: It's community gathering, so we put a stage out and

565
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: we have local.

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00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: Performers and oh that's cool.

567
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 3: We're local artists too, so we have art installations in

568
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: the restaurant as well. Uh.

569
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: So you get you get some of that that beautiful.

570
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: Grit that Venice has always been super popular for over

571
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: the years, through the art, through the entertainment, and we are,

572
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: you know, two steps away.

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00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: From the sand. So you know, any any day or

574
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Speaker 2: night is fun at NA Luvida.

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00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: Just depending on if you you're coming down for dining

576
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: or if you're coming down for entertainment.

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00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, get on down there, whether you live here,

578
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: you're coming on vacation, you're visiting Venice Beach, get down

579
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: to if you're in Torrance, Yeah, Mom South and Mama

580
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: said yes, go hello.

581
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 3: If you want to do some line dancing, you know,

582
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Speaker 3: Mom said yes on Thursday nights. That's the way to

583
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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: That's the way to do it, all right, justin thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, and good luck with

586
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: the restaurants, and I wish you all the best.

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00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: Thank you so much too.

588
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: I hope you feel better, and I hope to see

589
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 3: you on set someday with us, you know, doing something

590
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: with horses.

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00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: Doing something, doing something. Man, I'll get on set someday.

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, more and more auditions in my future.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, best fans on the planet. Thanks for your downloads. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: Remember where you lead, we will follow.

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Speaker 4: Stay safe, everybody, and don't forget.

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