1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,155 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Is 2 00:00:22,235 --> 00:00:26,315 Speaker 1: it possible that his former White House chief of staff 3 00:00:26,555 --> 00:00:30,715 Speaker 1: has flipped on Donald Trump? Is it possible that, despite 4 00:00:30,755 --> 00:00:33,555 Speaker 1: what amounts to a million four in hush money, the 5 00:00:33,595 --> 00:00:37,435 Speaker 1: guy Trump has long suspected was ratting him out, maybe 6 00:00:37,475 --> 00:00:41,995 Speaker 1: even quoting Trump from months ago wearing a wire, that 7 00:00:41,995 --> 00:00:46,875 Speaker 1: that person has himself been identified? Is there just one 8 00:00:47,035 --> 00:00:51,435 Speaker 1: figure behind the three bombshells from the Special Council's investigation 9 00:00:51,595 --> 00:00:54,835 Speaker 1: this week? Is one person connected to the revelation that 10 00:00:54,915 --> 00:00:58,475 Speaker 1: Jack Smith now has Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran's notes about 11 00:00:58,515 --> 00:01:01,715 Speaker 1: the marri Lago docs And is the same figure behind 12 00:01:01,755 --> 00:01:05,195 Speaker 1: the revelation that Smith suphoenaed Trump's business dealing with Saudi 13 00:01:05,235 --> 00:01:07,955 Speaker 1: Arabia and six other countries on the premise that he 14 00:01:08,035 --> 00:01:10,435 Speaker 1: might have traded or sold the documents as part of 15 00:01:10,515 --> 00:01:14,675 Speaker 1: property deals. And could the same figure be behind Tuesday's 16 00:01:14,675 --> 00:01:18,395 Speaker 1: story that some of Trump's close associates are bracing for 17 00:01:18,475 --> 00:01:24,475 Speaker 1: his indictment. Are three scoops just parts of one story 18 00:01:24,955 --> 00:01:28,315 Speaker 1: sussed out by first the Special Council and then by 19 00:01:28,435 --> 00:01:32,675 Speaker 1: three different reporters. Is the source either for the Council 20 00:01:32,835 --> 00:01:39,555 Speaker 1: or the reporters Mark Meadows. There was a clunky, mundane 21 00:01:39,715 --> 00:01:44,075 Speaker 1: featureish piece about Mark Meadows that appeared out of nowhere 22 00:01:44,515 --> 00:01:48,235 Speaker 1: on CNN's website yesterday, and the first thirteen paragraphs basically 23 00:01:48,275 --> 00:01:51,635 Speaker 1: said he's been off stage advising the Republican debt sealing 24 00:01:51,675 --> 00:01:54,835 Speaker 1: hostage takers. And then if you were still awake, somehow 25 00:01:54,995 --> 00:01:59,635 Speaker 1: paragraph fourteen hit you right in the teeth quote. A 26 00:01:59,755 --> 00:02:03,075 Speaker 1: source close to Trump's legal team said Trump's lawyers have 27 00:02:03,195 --> 00:02:06,795 Speaker 1: had no contact with Meadows and his team and are 28 00:02:06,915 --> 00:02:11,355 Speaker 1: in the dark on what Meadows is doing in the investigation. 29 00:02:12,835 --> 00:02:16,675 Speaker 1: It's damn weird phrasing, even for a CNN writer. Are 30 00:02:16,995 --> 00:02:21,515 Speaker 1: in the dark on what Meadows is doing in the investigation. 31 00:02:21,995 --> 00:02:25,395 Speaker 1: Not are in the dark weather he has played any 32 00:02:25,475 --> 00:02:28,515 Speaker 1: part in the investigation, but in the dark on what 33 00:02:28,755 --> 00:02:32,395 Speaker 1: Meadows is doing in the investigation, as in, he has 34 00:02:32,555 --> 00:02:34,635 Speaker 1: a role in it, we just don't know what that 35 00:02:34,795 --> 00:02:39,595 Speaker 1: role is. Quoting the piece again, We've all heard the 36 00:02:39,635 --> 00:02:44,635 Speaker 1: same rumors. One Trump advisor told CNN, no one really 37 00:02:44,915 --> 00:02:50,515 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing, though, wait what. In December twenty 38 00:02:50,595 --> 00:02:53,515 Speaker 1: twenty two, the law firm representing Mark Meadows got a 39 00:02:53,515 --> 00:02:57,555 Speaker 1: little cash from the Trump Political Action Committee Save America 40 00:02:57,675 --> 00:03:01,675 Speaker 1: just the Little just nine hundred thousand dollars, to say 41 00:03:01,715 --> 00:03:04,315 Speaker 1: nothing of the half million Meadows gets from the pro 42 00:03:04,395 --> 00:03:10,035 Speaker 1: tr think tank Conservative Partnership Institute, and Trump's lawyers have 43 00:03:10,075 --> 00:03:14,755 Speaker 1: had no contact with million dollar Meadows, and they seem 44 00:03:14,795 --> 00:03:16,995 Speaker 1: certain Meadows is involved in some way in the Special 45 00:03:17,075 --> 00:03:19,955 Speaker 1: Council's investigation, but they don't know how exactly. In fact, 46 00:03:19,955 --> 00:03:21,635 Speaker 1: they're in the dark, and all they've hurt his rumors 47 00:03:21,635 --> 00:03:23,635 Speaker 1: and nobody really knows what he's doing. What the hell 48 00:03:23,675 --> 00:03:25,515 Speaker 1: good is a million four in hush money if the 49 00:03:25,555 --> 00:03:30,955 Speaker 1: guy don't hush To resume the CNN piece, it is 50 00:03:31,115 --> 00:03:33,915 Speaker 1: matter of fact, we noted that this is quote fueling 51 00:03:34,075 --> 00:03:38,795 Speaker 1: speculation about whether Meadows is cooperating with the Special Counsel's 52 00:03:38,875 --> 00:03:42,715 Speaker 1: probe or if Meadows himself is a target of the investigation. 53 00:03:44,035 --> 00:03:47,155 Speaker 1: The piece then quotes that same Trump advisor who says 54 00:03:47,195 --> 00:03:50,595 Speaker 1: nobody knows what's really going on now. He says he 55 00:03:50,715 --> 00:03:53,995 Speaker 1: still checks in, he still wants to talk about the politics. 56 00:03:54,875 --> 00:03:58,435 Speaker 1: And Jim Jordan goes on the record to CNN about 57 00:03:58,475 --> 00:04:01,275 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows and says, on the record he talks to 58 00:04:01,315 --> 00:04:04,315 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows at least once a week. Quote. But when 59 00:04:04,315 --> 00:04:06,915 Speaker 1: it comes to legal matters, Jordan said, we make a 60 00:04:06,995 --> 00:04:12,995 Speaker 1: point not to talk about that. Unquote Jim Jordan, mister 61 00:04:13,075 --> 00:04:18,435 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, mister weaponization of government committee, Mister I'll try 62 00:04:18,475 --> 00:04:23,075 Speaker 1: to sell anything to my rubs. And he's not talking 63 00:04:23,795 --> 00:04:27,515 Speaker 1: to Mark Meadows about January sixth, than Trump and the 64 00:04:27,555 --> 00:04:30,475 Speaker 1: Department of Justice and the Special Council. We're supposed to 65 00:04:30,475 --> 00:04:34,955 Speaker 1: believe that best source of rumors you could have would 66 00:04:34,955 --> 00:04:38,675 Speaker 1: be somebody who's involved in the January sixth investigation. Oh, 67 00:04:38,755 --> 00:04:43,275 Speaker 1: I don't talk about that. Mark Meadows at the center 68 00:04:43,355 --> 00:04:46,755 Speaker 1: of the conspiracy to illegally fundraise off the twenty twenty election, 69 00:04:46,955 --> 00:04:50,475 Speaker 1: even though Trump knew it was not stolen. The conspiracy 70 00:04:51,035 --> 00:04:54,795 Speaker 1: on which Jacksmith has concentrated his Electoral College part of 71 00:04:54,835 --> 00:04:58,515 Speaker 1: his three pronged investigation of Trump, and nobody knows whether 72 00:04:58,595 --> 00:05:07,035 Speaker 1: Meadows is the target or the source. Mark Meadows probably 73 00:05:07,115 --> 00:05:10,155 Speaker 1: uninvolved with the marri Lago documents end of Jack Smith 74 00:05:10,195 --> 00:05:15,275 Speaker 1: and Team Trident, but also Mark Meadows at the center 75 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:17,195 Speaker 1: of the conspiracy to make it look like Trump did 76 00:05:17,275 --> 00:05:19,395 Speaker 1: not go to the Ellipse on January sixth and do 77 00:05:19,475 --> 00:05:23,235 Speaker 1: anything but hand out bear spray and capital blueprints to 78 00:05:23,275 --> 00:05:26,075 Speaker 1: the insurrectionists who tried to complete a military coup to 79 00:05:26,115 --> 00:05:30,795 Speaker 1: allow him to overthrow democracy. That Mark Meadows. Mark Meadows, 80 00:05:30,795 --> 00:05:34,675 Speaker 1: who not only knows that Colonel Mustard and clue stuff 81 00:05:34,715 --> 00:05:38,195 Speaker 1: from that day, that Smith so obviously loves, like where 82 00:05:38,275 --> 00:05:42,275 Speaker 1: Trump was and who he talked to during the seven 83 00:05:42,315 --> 00:05:44,755 Speaker 1: hours and thirty seven minutes on January sixth where the 84 00:05:44,755 --> 00:05:50,515 Speaker 1: White House phone logs go dark. That Mark Meadows, and 85 00:05:50,635 --> 00:05:57,195 Speaker 1: all Trump's side is ooh, Mark Meadows, who could tell 86 00:05:57,275 --> 00:06:01,035 Speaker 1: you everything that Trump knew? And, as the old line goes, 87 00:06:01,355 --> 00:06:06,995 Speaker 1: when the President knew it. Oh. And by the way, 88 00:06:07,075 --> 00:06:09,835 Speaker 1: each of the major news organizations that have broken big 89 00:06:09,875 --> 00:06:12,795 Speaker 1: stories out of the Special Council's investigation New York Times, 90 00:06:12,875 --> 00:06:15,715 Speaker 1: Washington Post, CNN, The Guardian, each of them has at 91 00:06:15,795 --> 00:06:18,995 Speaker 1: least one top reporter working basically full time on Jack Smith, 92 00:06:19,195 --> 00:06:22,155 Speaker 1: the man of many grand juries, And they have not 93 00:06:22,235 --> 00:06:25,875 Speaker 1: broken one Mark Meadows story. And the first thing even 94 00:06:25,915 --> 00:06:28,475 Speaker 1: resembling a Mark Meadows story is, we don't know what 95 00:06:28,515 --> 00:06:32,755 Speaker 1: the story is with the Mark Meadows story, said Jim Jordan. 96 00:06:34,835 --> 00:06:38,715 Speaker 1: Two asides counting the CNN piece on Meadows, three of 97 00:06:38,755 --> 00:06:41,515 Speaker 1: the four big stories about the Special Council this week 98 00:06:41,715 --> 00:06:45,155 Speaker 1: have referenced that Jack Smith is in the end game. 99 00:06:45,835 --> 00:06:49,275 Speaker 1: He's wrapping it up, barreling to a conclusion, as it 100 00:06:49,275 --> 00:06:52,875 Speaker 1: says in the CNN piece, reference after reference to Smith 101 00:06:52,915 --> 00:06:55,955 Speaker 1: having gotten all the testimony he wanted and brought some 102 00:06:55,995 --> 00:07:00,515 Speaker 1: witnesses back for a second grilling, and not one mention 103 00:07:00,995 --> 00:07:09,595 Speaker 1: of Mark Meadows testifying or not testifying. And Mark Meadows 104 00:07:10,195 --> 00:07:15,755 Speaker 1: would not testify to the January sixth Committee, pure contempt 105 00:07:15,835 --> 00:07:21,355 Speaker 1: of Congress, and the Justice Department decided not to charge 106 00:07:21,515 --> 00:07:27,315 Speaker 1: him with contempt of Congress. Now just think for a moment, 107 00:07:27,995 --> 00:07:34,195 Speaker 1: why would the Justice Department not want to charge somebody 108 00:07:35,715 --> 00:07:40,715 Speaker 1: who might be the backbreaking witness against Trump for the 109 00:07:40,875 --> 00:07:50,675 Speaker 1: Justice Department. Also, so if you missed the Ron Desanta's 110 00:07:50,795 --> 00:07:55,355 Speaker 1: campaign launch on Twitter last night, don't worry. So did he, 111 00:07:56,515 --> 00:08:05,795 Speaker 1: so did Elon Musk. That sound is all Ron DeSantis 112 00:08:05,875 --> 00:08:09,555 Speaker 1: will be remembered for twenty six minutes of silence and 113 00:08:09,595 --> 00:08:15,635 Speaker 1: echoes and that sound, and then the Twitter space blowed up, 114 00:08:15,755 --> 00:08:19,075 Speaker 1: blowed up good, blowed up, real good, blowed up like 115 00:08:19,115 --> 00:08:25,515 Speaker 1: an Elon Musk SpaceX rocket. Yeaha, I'll spare you the 116 00:08:25,555 --> 00:08:28,635 Speaker 1: other jokes except the one that Musk then tweeted that 117 00:08:28,715 --> 00:08:31,955 Speaker 1: all presidential candidates were welcome on Twitter. And you have 118 00:08:31,995 --> 00:08:34,115 Speaker 1: to wonder if two of them called Elon at the 119 00:08:34,155 --> 00:08:36,515 Speaker 1: same time to say I'd like to come on. If 120 00:08:36,595 --> 00:08:41,835 Speaker 1: Elon's phone system would melt, honest to god, if he 121 00:08:41,915 --> 00:08:46,075 Speaker 1: were smart and he's not, Ron DeSantis would announce today 122 00:08:46,475 --> 00:08:49,515 Speaker 1: that he's changed his mind and he's not running for president. 123 00:08:50,155 --> 00:08:52,715 Speaker 1: And then after the Twitter space thing dies down in 124 00:08:52,755 --> 00:08:56,035 Speaker 1: a week or two, he should do like a town 125 00:08:56,075 --> 00:08:59,715 Speaker 1: hall on CNN and say changed his mind again and 126 00:08:59,755 --> 00:09:03,195 Speaker 1: he is running anything to get the stench of that 127 00:09:03,275 --> 00:09:08,275 Speaker 1: Twitter disaster off his ill fitting suit and high healed shoes. 128 00:09:09,635 --> 00:09:14,955 Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Biden tweeted this link works Joe Biden 129 00:09:15,075 --> 00:09:22,075 Speaker 1: scored off him on Twitter during Desanta's campaign announcement. Let 130 00:09:22,075 --> 00:09:23,675 Speaker 1: me also point out at the other end of this 131 00:09:23,715 --> 00:09:26,875 Speaker 1: thing that hours before this disaster, the Axios media writer 132 00:09:26,995 --> 00:09:30,875 Speaker 1: concluded that quote Musk has displaced Rupert Murdoch and Fox 133 00:09:30,955 --> 00:09:33,995 Speaker 1: News as king of conservative media in recent weeks, and 134 00:09:34,035 --> 00:09:36,875 Speaker 1: I think we can forget about that now too. And 135 00:09:36,955 --> 00:09:41,195 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson told the site hours before the disaster, quote, Thankfully, 136 00:09:41,195 --> 00:09:46,275 Speaker 1: the old system is collapsing in real time. No, sorry, Tucky, 137 00:09:46,475 --> 00:09:49,835 Speaker 1: good choice of words, though, it seems to be Elon's 138 00:09:50,035 --> 00:09:53,115 Speaker 1: new system that's collapsing in real time. And oh, look, 139 00:09:53,355 --> 00:09:56,915 Speaker 1: you're willing to forgo thirty million dollars from Fox to 140 00:09:56,995 --> 00:10:02,875 Speaker 1: launch your new show on Twitter, Tucker. I hate your 141 00:10:02,955 --> 00:10:04,515 Speaker 1: guts and you hate mine, but I'm going to give 142 00:10:04,515 --> 00:10:06,875 Speaker 1: you advice. You would be better off launching your new 143 00:10:06,955 --> 00:10:16,995 Speaker 1: show by facts Tucker Twitter Twitter Tucker Twucker. When Musk's 144 00:10:17,195 --> 00:10:20,595 Speaker 1: SpaceX blew up, it left a coating of brown crap 145 00:10:20,715 --> 00:10:24,075 Speaker 1: on several Texas towns, and so will this fiasco. The 146 00:10:24,195 --> 00:10:27,715 Speaker 1: problem for DeSantis is when they clean this Twitter crap up, 147 00:10:28,195 --> 00:10:30,995 Speaker 1: people will notice what little he did say on the 148 00:10:31,035 --> 00:10:34,715 Speaker 1: Twitter spaces thing. And then on a subsequent interview on 149 00:10:34,835 --> 00:10:38,075 Speaker 1: Fox with ex Congressman Trey Goudy and Trey, you gotta 150 00:10:38,155 --> 00:10:42,875 Speaker 1: stop sticking your head in the pencil sharpener, Goudy asked 151 00:10:42,915 --> 00:10:48,195 Speaker 1: him about Ukraine, and DeSantis could not say anything about Ukraine, 152 00:10:48,475 --> 00:10:52,675 Speaker 1: didn't seem to understand about Ukraine. Had to pivot reflexively 153 00:10:52,715 --> 00:10:55,355 Speaker 1: began with quote Farnstein. I think what we need to 154 00:10:55,395 --> 00:10:58,595 Speaker 1: do as a veteran is recognize that our military has 155 00:10:58,635 --> 00:11:02,955 Speaker 1: become politicized. You talk about gender ideology, you talk about 156 00:11:03,035 --> 00:11:06,515 Speaker 1: global warming, we're not talking. It's talking about Ukraine. That 157 00:11:06,555 --> 00:11:08,875 Speaker 1: would be something I could take care of on day one, 158 00:11:09,875 --> 00:11:13,755 Speaker 1: the sad implication being, the sad truth being Ron DeSantis 159 00:11:13,755 --> 00:11:17,475 Speaker 1: could not take care of anything else on day one 160 00:11:17,635 --> 00:11:24,715 Speaker 1: except woke the Wokye Finocchi swamp thing. Oh and there's 161 00:11:24,715 --> 00:11:28,595 Speaker 1: a ps from the Republican campaign. CNN is doing another 162 00:11:28,675 --> 00:11:31,755 Speaker 1: town hall because the last one went so well with 163 00:11:31,875 --> 00:11:36,755 Speaker 1: Nicki Haley on Sunday, June fourth, at Grinnell College in Iowa. 164 00:11:37,155 --> 00:11:40,635 Speaker 1: As reporter Ben Jacobs pointed out, first, I think big 165 00:11:40,675 --> 00:11:45,995 Speaker 1: weekend at Grenell two nights earlier. Next Friday, June second, 166 00:11:45,995 --> 00:11:53,395 Speaker 1: at the Harris Center. It's sorry, it's the second Grenell 167 00:11:53,635 --> 00:12:04,195 Speaker 1: College Reunion drag show. Capacity is limited, so please arrive early, Nicki. 168 00:12:08,475 --> 00:12:10,915 Speaker 1: And if that's not enough of a larf to go 169 00:12:11,075 --> 00:12:13,995 Speaker 1: out on, you must have heard this by now. As 170 00:12:14,035 --> 00:12:16,715 Speaker 1: the Republicans continue to try to destroy the economy and 171 00:12:16,795 --> 00:12:19,595 Speaker 1: kill the debt limit, hostage and that's Matt Gates's term, 172 00:12:19,715 --> 00:12:23,115 Speaker 1: not mine. The adults all left the Congressional room for 173 00:12:23,155 --> 00:12:27,555 Speaker 1: a while, and somebody let Marjorie Taylor, Barney rubble white 174 00:12:27,555 --> 00:12:33,635 Speaker 1: supremacist Karen Green run the asylum. Imagine as you hear this, 175 00:12:34,035 --> 00:12:38,715 Speaker 1: being this reviled by your own congressional colleagues, I mean, hell, 176 00:12:39,075 --> 00:12:43,715 Speaker 1: imagine being this reviled by your own colleagues. At a 177 00:12:43,875 --> 00:12:44,795 Speaker 1: pool hall. 178 00:12:46,235 --> 00:12:50,035 Speaker 2: Hostage, the members are reminded to abide by decorum of 179 00:12:50,075 --> 00:13:21,835 Speaker 2: the house. Hows will be in order? Hows will be 180 00:13:21,955 --> 00:13:22,675 Speaker 2: in order? 181 00:13:23,075 --> 00:13:26,635 Speaker 1: I believe the term they used to use in the 182 00:13:26,755 --> 00:13:30,915 Speaker 1: South to describe people like Marjorie Taylor Green was and 183 00:13:31,035 --> 00:13:41,795 Speaker 1: I'll update it to make it politically correct trash, speaking 184 00:13:41,835 --> 00:13:44,635 Speaker 1: of making a public spectacle of yourself. For twenty four 185 00:13:44,635 --> 00:13:47,995 Speaker 1: hours or so, it sure looked like Tom Hanks had 186 00:13:47,995 --> 00:13:52,315 Speaker 1: erased a reputation built over a lifetime of being mister 187 00:13:52,475 --> 00:13:57,275 Speaker 1: nice guy of Hollywood trouble and wild gesticulations on the 188 00:13:57,355 --> 00:14:09,035 Speaker 1: red carpet at the con Film Festival. Wait gesticulations, red carpet, 189 00:14:09,395 --> 00:14:14,635 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks. I am flashing back to my day of 190 00:14:14,755 --> 00:14:21,515 Speaker 1: wild gesticulations and a red carpet and Tom Hanks, that's next. 191 00:14:21,555 --> 00:14:27,875 Speaker 1: That's us. Goddown, you know, this is countdown with you know. 192 00:14:28,075 --> 00:14:35,835 Speaker 1: Keith Alberman pot scripts to the news some headlines, some updates, 193 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:41,595 Speaker 1: some snark, some predictions. Dateline con in France, they were 194 00:14:41,635 --> 00:14:44,875 Speaker 1: everywhere photos and video of what certainly looked from a 195 00:14:44,915 --> 00:14:48,035 Speaker 1: distance like actor Tom Hanks and his wife Rita Wilson 196 00:14:48,435 --> 00:14:53,675 Speaker 1: yelling at, maybe even berating, an unidentified random staffer on 197 00:14:53,755 --> 00:14:56,795 Speaker 1: the red carpet at the twenty twenty three Con Film 198 00:14:56,835 --> 00:15:01,795 Speaker 1: Festival in France while promoting his new movie Asteroid City. 199 00:15:02,715 --> 00:15:06,315 Speaker 1: At various intervals, Hanks seems to have a fist clenched, 200 00:15:06,755 --> 00:15:09,435 Speaker 1: then seems to be jabbing his forefinger at the man. 201 00:15:10,715 --> 00:15:13,715 Speaker 1: Throughout he appeared to wear a look of disbelief verging 202 00:15:13,755 --> 00:15:18,155 Speaker 1: on anger. European newspapers were filled for two days with 203 00:15:18,275 --> 00:15:22,595 Speaker 1: stories about Tom Hanks yells at Con and Tom Hanks 204 00:15:22,675 --> 00:15:27,395 Speaker 1: yells at staffer and Tom Hanks skulls con staffer, et cetera, 205 00:15:27,515 --> 00:15:30,475 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. And then his wife Rida spoke up. 206 00:15:30,835 --> 00:15:35,235 Speaker 1: Then the staffer, Vince Chapalaine spoke up. Then the sound 207 00:15:35,355 --> 00:15:38,155 Speaker 1: on the video spoke up louder than either of them. 208 00:15:38,595 --> 00:15:42,035 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks wasn't scolding anybody, but he was yelling because 209 00:15:42,075 --> 00:15:46,555 Speaker 1: he could not hear himself or this vincent Chapalaine or 210 00:15:46,595 --> 00:15:51,795 Speaker 1: anything else because the crowd around the red carpet was 211 00:15:51,875 --> 00:15:56,315 Speaker 1: too loud. The clenched hand Tom Hanks clenched it while 212 00:15:56,315 --> 00:15:59,915 Speaker 1: he was yelling, I can't hear you. Everybody's screaming. The 213 00:16:00,035 --> 00:16:03,875 Speaker 1: jabbing forefinger. It went with where are we supposed to go? 214 00:16:03,995 --> 00:16:05,595 Speaker 1: Are we supposed to so back to the start of 215 00:16:05,635 --> 00:16:09,035 Speaker 1: the red carpet, Just point at where you want us 216 00:16:09,075 --> 00:16:13,595 Speaker 1: to go, and the scolding of the random staffer. Vince 217 00:16:13,635 --> 00:16:17,035 Speaker 1: as Chapelaine is the manager of the Red carpet at Khan, 218 00:16:17,555 --> 00:16:20,515 Speaker 1: has been for ten years. The only thing he was 219 00:16:20,555 --> 00:16:24,235 Speaker 1: taking offense at was people presuming he was just security 220 00:16:24,355 --> 00:16:30,835 Speaker 1: rather than management. These are the French con you hear me? Now, 221 00:16:32,155 --> 00:16:35,155 Speaker 1: this is an unusual story to include here, and I've 222 00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:38,635 Speaker 1: gone into unusual detail about it because the moment I 223 00:16:38,675 --> 00:16:42,235 Speaker 1: saw this story from Cohn, I didn't have mere deja vu. 224 00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:48,035 Speaker 1: I had a full flashback, a full out of body experience, 225 00:16:48,955 --> 00:16:53,155 Speaker 1: time travel. I was propelled back to March twenty first, 226 00:16:53,235 --> 00:16:57,075 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, where a similar overhead view of Tom 227 00:16:57,115 --> 00:17:01,955 Speaker 1: Hanks on a red carpet, without any audio, without any context, 228 00:17:02,315 --> 00:17:05,515 Speaker 1: would have presented you a picture of first Tom and 229 00:17:05,555 --> 00:17:08,275 Speaker 1: then Tom Hanks with the assistance of Ben Affleck and 230 00:17:08,395 --> 00:17:12,795 Speaker 1: Matt Damon, assaulting a guy literally pulling him over the 231 00:17:12,835 --> 00:17:17,995 Speaker 1: hedges that served as the security boundary, damaging the guy's clothing, 232 00:17:18,235 --> 00:17:21,755 Speaker 1: and then basically throwing him back over the hedges, and 233 00:17:21,915 --> 00:17:26,555 Speaker 1: all this took place on a red carpet at the Oscars. 234 00:17:28,675 --> 00:17:32,755 Speaker 1: The guy was me. In nineteen ninety nine, I had 235 00:17:32,795 --> 00:17:35,755 Speaker 1: just started what began as a pretty good gig. Fox 236 00:17:35,875 --> 00:17:39,115 Speaker 1: Sports had launched its own version of ESPN and its 237 00:17:39,155 --> 00:17:41,755 Speaker 1: own version of SportsCenter, and it had thrown way too 238 00:17:41,795 --> 00:17:44,315 Speaker 1: much money at me, and it bought me out of 239 00:17:44,355 --> 00:17:47,915 Speaker 1: my contract at MSNBC, where I was desperately unhappy doing 240 00:17:47,955 --> 00:17:51,715 Speaker 1: the Clinton Lewinsky story every hour on the hour, and 241 00:17:51,795 --> 00:17:53,715 Speaker 1: they got me to move back to Los Angeles and 242 00:17:53,795 --> 00:17:56,315 Speaker 1: anchor their version of Sports Center and all the Fox 243 00:17:56,355 --> 00:17:58,915 Speaker 1: Baseball coverage two including the World Series in the All 244 00:17:58,915 --> 00:18:01,635 Speaker 1: Star Game, and it launched a five year plan to 245 00:18:01,675 --> 00:18:05,515 Speaker 1: give itself enough credibility to compete with ESPN. And I 246 00:18:05,755 --> 00:18:09,515 Speaker 1: was just there to enjoy the sun, collect the huge paycheck, 247 00:18:09,595 --> 00:18:13,155 Speaker 1: and publicize the thing as often as possible while they 248 00:18:13,275 --> 00:18:16,555 Speaker 1: slowly built it up for the year two thousand and four, 249 00:18:17,595 --> 00:18:19,875 Speaker 1: as the executive who signed me said, after we held 250 00:18:19,915 --> 00:18:23,275 Speaker 1: an introductory press conference and press phone call with about 251 00:18:23,315 --> 00:18:26,475 Speaker 1: two hundred reporters, you earned about a year of your 252 00:18:26,515 --> 00:18:30,635 Speaker 1: salary just doing that call. So when one of the 253 00:18:30,755 --> 00:18:33,715 Speaker 1: editors of the Los Angeles Times called somebody she knew 254 00:18:33,715 --> 00:18:35,715 Speaker 1: in the PR department at Fox and said, I have 255 00:18:35,755 --> 00:18:39,395 Speaker 1: a crazy idea, what is Keith Olderman doing on Oscars night? 256 00:18:40,035 --> 00:18:43,395 Speaker 1: The Fox people listened. The next thing I knew I 257 00:18:43,435 --> 00:18:46,435 Speaker 1: had that night off. I was in a tux. I 258 00:18:46,555 --> 00:18:48,755 Speaker 1: was standing the mid a sea of photographers at the 259 00:18:48,795 --> 00:18:53,115 Speaker 1: first turn of the red carpet at the Oscars, gathering 260 00:18:53,195 --> 00:18:57,395 Speaker 1: quotes from startled celebrities who expected to see only photogs 261 00:18:57,475 --> 00:19:00,555 Speaker 1: right there and not somebody asking questions, certainly not me 262 00:19:00,755 --> 00:19:05,115 Speaker 1: asking questions. I was a little startled too. The editor, 263 00:19:05,155 --> 00:19:08,275 Speaker 1: in a pre Oscars phone call, explained that this was 264 00:19:08,315 --> 00:19:10,955 Speaker 1: the seventy first edition of the Oscars, and the Times 265 00:19:10,955 --> 00:19:13,635 Speaker 1: had covered the first seventy. Then they had pretty much 266 00:19:13,675 --> 00:19:15,835 Speaker 1: gotten it down to a science around the year nineteen 267 00:19:15,915 --> 00:19:18,715 Speaker 1: thirty two, and they really hadn't changed much since then 268 00:19:19,995 --> 00:19:23,235 Speaker 1: except the photos are in color now, she mentioned. She 269 00:19:23,355 --> 00:19:25,435 Speaker 1: asked if I wanted to hear what would be in 270 00:19:25,475 --> 00:19:28,195 Speaker 1: the Times the day after the Oscars. She said, I 271 00:19:28,235 --> 00:19:30,275 Speaker 1: can recite the main story right now. I just have 272 00:19:30,355 --> 00:19:32,475 Speaker 1: to fill in the names of the winners. And then 273 00:19:32,475 --> 00:19:36,435 Speaker 1: there's the fashion review and how many daring and outlandish 274 00:19:36,515 --> 00:19:39,395 Speaker 1: and classic outfits there were. Now I'll have the TV 275 00:19:39,515 --> 00:19:42,275 Speaker 1: critic complaining about how bad the host was. No, I'll 276 00:19:42,275 --> 00:19:44,835 Speaker 1: have the TV business guy explaining why the ratings were 277 00:19:44,875 --> 00:19:47,635 Speaker 1: so low. Then we'll have the big poll quotes from 278 00:19:47,635 --> 00:19:50,315 Speaker 1: the actors that we'll read exactly like the big poll 279 00:19:50,435 --> 00:19:54,315 Speaker 1: quotes from nineteen eighty nine or nineteen seventy nine. It'll 280 00:19:54,355 --> 00:19:57,435 Speaker 1: have the predictive piece on which award wins will actually 281 00:19:57,435 --> 00:19:59,475 Speaker 1: help movies at the box port office, and then we'll 282 00:19:59,475 --> 00:20:02,395 Speaker 1: have the predictive piece on which awards snubs will actually 283 00:20:02,475 --> 00:20:05,155 Speaker 1: hurt movies at the box office. What we need is 284 00:20:06,355 --> 00:20:09,635 Speaker 1: anything else? Can you think of anything else? Can you 285 00:20:09,635 --> 00:20:11,915 Speaker 1: think of anything you haven't read in our paper about 286 00:20:11,915 --> 00:20:15,595 Speaker 1: the Oscars. I thought for a second, I said, what 287 00:20:15,675 --> 00:20:18,835 Speaker 1: about this idea that they're now going to televise the 288 00:20:18,875 --> 00:20:22,515 Speaker 1: Red Carpet live for half an hour before the Oscars. 289 00:20:22,595 --> 00:20:25,955 Speaker 1: You're gonna have like an Oscars pregame show. I heard 290 00:20:26,035 --> 00:20:28,395 Speaker 1: somebody say, you know, maybe they could do that all day. 291 00:20:28,475 --> 00:20:32,475 Speaker 1: I mean, what if I asked everybody, like, like whoever 292 00:20:32,515 --> 00:20:34,275 Speaker 1: will stop to talk to me? I mean, what if 293 00:20:34,475 --> 00:20:36,435 Speaker 1: I asked them, would they think would be a good 294 00:20:36,435 --> 00:20:39,955 Speaker 1: idea to make the Oscars an all day kind of thing, 295 00:20:40,035 --> 00:20:44,875 Speaker 1: like like Super Bowl Sunday Oscar Sunday Oscar Bowl Live 296 00:20:44,955 --> 00:20:47,075 Speaker 1: starting at dawn on ABC. I mean I could basically 297 00:20:47,115 --> 00:20:49,915 Speaker 1: write you the lead paragraph. Now, thanks for attending Oscar 298 00:20:49,995 --> 00:20:54,355 Speaker 1: Bowl one. Please ask your limo driver to tune into 299 00:20:54,395 --> 00:21:00,675 Speaker 1: the postgame show with Vince Gully, Uma Thurman, and Angeline 300 00:21:01,555 --> 00:21:08,515 Speaker 1: not Angeline Edie Williams arrive home. The editor laughed, had 301 00:21:08,595 --> 00:21:12,595 Speaker 1: me repeat it, and wrote it down. It was the 302 00:21:12,675 --> 00:21:15,635 Speaker 1: lead of my story. So on the night of March 303 00:21:15,675 --> 00:21:18,915 Speaker 1: twenty first, nineteen ninety nine Oscars Night, there I was 304 00:21:19,835 --> 00:21:23,075 Speaker 1: officially a sports reporter and ex news reporter and ex 305 00:21:23,155 --> 00:21:25,995 Speaker 1: local LA sportscaster on top of everything else. There I 306 00:21:26,115 --> 00:21:28,835 Speaker 1: was at the first corner of the red carpet in 307 00:21:28,835 --> 00:21:32,035 Speaker 1: front of the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, standing where one of 308 00:21:32,075 --> 00:21:35,795 Speaker 1: the eighty or so LA Times photographers should have been. 309 00:21:36,275 --> 00:21:38,475 Speaker 1: And I never found out what he thought of this idea. 310 00:21:39,115 --> 00:21:41,955 Speaker 1: And I was introducing myself to actors and actresses who 311 00:21:42,235 --> 00:21:45,355 Speaker 1: producers and other people who had no idea who I was. 312 00:21:45,875 --> 00:21:49,875 Speaker 1: Helen Hunt was particularly confused and explaining why I was 313 00:21:49,955 --> 00:21:52,355 Speaker 1: there to actors and actresses who knew exactly who I was. 314 00:21:52,715 --> 00:21:57,395 Speaker 1: Kevin Costner was particularly confused. Some of them gave thoughtful 315 00:21:57,435 --> 00:22:00,715 Speaker 1: answers to my question about an all day oscars. Helen 316 00:22:00,795 --> 00:22:04,075 Speaker 1: Hunt actually thought about it and said something interesting. Costner 317 00:22:04,115 --> 00:22:06,715 Speaker 1: said he would never watch anything like that instead of 318 00:22:06,795 --> 00:22:10,195 Speaker 1: say college basketball. He recommended against doing it, and he said, 319 00:22:10,515 --> 00:22:12,955 Speaker 1: we already know too much about the things we already 320 00:22:12,955 --> 00:22:15,715 Speaker 1: know about. And I knew exactly what he meant. What 321 00:22:15,795 --> 00:22:18,795 Speaker 1: a great quote. We shook hands, and cost took a 322 00:22:18,835 --> 00:22:21,035 Speaker 1: deep breath, and he moved towards the gauntlet of the 323 00:22:21,075 --> 00:22:23,875 Speaker 1: next five hundred reporters down the red carpet and said, 324 00:22:24,475 --> 00:22:28,275 Speaker 1: wish me luck Keith. Within two minutes, I then saw 325 00:22:28,395 --> 00:22:32,075 Speaker 1: Costner walking back towards me. Can you give me a favor? 326 00:22:32,235 --> 00:22:34,835 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, but can you not run that quote. 327 00:22:35,195 --> 00:22:38,435 Speaker 1: I've never retracted a quote in my life, but that'll 328 00:22:38,635 --> 00:22:43,635 Speaker 1: make me sound like Yogi Bera, I said, it didn't 329 00:22:43,675 --> 00:22:45,955 Speaker 1: make him sound like Yogi Berra. It was perfect and 330 00:22:45,955 --> 00:22:48,075 Speaker 1: everybody would know exactly what he meant. But of course 331 00:22:48,235 --> 00:22:50,675 Speaker 1: if that's what he wanted, I'd forget it. I wouldn't 332 00:22:50,755 --> 00:22:56,035 Speaker 1: use the quote until now. Anyway, I had enough color 333 00:22:56,115 --> 00:22:58,355 Speaker 1: and quotes, and technically my article was going to be 334 00:22:58,595 --> 00:23:02,075 Speaker 1: labeled arrivals. So it was done already as night began 335 00:23:02,155 --> 00:23:04,595 Speaker 1: to fall, and I had one particular piece of gold 336 00:23:05,155 --> 00:23:08,075 Speaker 1: handed to me. When the fabled actress who had done 337 00:23:08,075 --> 00:23:11,355 Speaker 1: the cameo in Titanic the year before, arrived on the 338 00:23:11,355 --> 00:23:14,315 Speaker 1: Red Carpet. The photographer standing on one side of me said, look, 339 00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:20,835 Speaker 1: it's Martha Stewart. Not Martha Stuart, I mean Glorious Swanson. No, 340 00:23:20,955 --> 00:23:26,675 Speaker 1: you know who I mean, Glorias Stewart. It was good 341 00:23:26,715 --> 00:23:28,795 Speaker 1: that I had enough material, and I thought that was 342 00:23:28,875 --> 00:23:31,475 Speaker 1: probably going to be my second paragraph because the editor 343 00:23:31,515 --> 00:23:33,795 Speaker 1: had given me a deadline, like, I don't know, six 344 00:23:33,995 --> 00:23:36,235 Speaker 1: thirty seven pm, where I had to be back in 345 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:39,635 Speaker 1: the Times offices, which were a quick walk a block 346 00:23:39,715 --> 00:23:41,955 Speaker 1: or two away, and I had to start writing because 347 00:23:41,955 --> 00:23:43,795 Speaker 1: they wanted to put my piece on the page with 348 00:23:43,835 --> 00:23:46,315 Speaker 1: all the early photos from the Red Carpet and the 349 00:23:46,315 --> 00:23:49,155 Speaker 1: start of the awards, and they needed my piece finished asap. 350 00:23:49,835 --> 00:23:51,755 Speaker 1: But I lingered a few minutes longer than I was 351 00:23:51,755 --> 00:23:54,395 Speaker 1: supposed to because there was only one actor I had 352 00:23:54,435 --> 00:23:59,795 Speaker 1: really hoped I was going to get to meet Tom Hanks. Finally, 353 00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:05,475 Speaker 1: Keith comes back to Tom Hanks. Didn't see him. Everybody's 354 00:24:05,475 --> 00:24:07,475 Speaker 1: already inside. I must have missed him, or maybe he's 355 00:24:07,555 --> 00:24:09,915 Speaker 1: not coming, even though he has a nominated film, and 356 00:24:09,955 --> 00:24:12,395 Speaker 1: I'm about to leave. Literally, I'm double checking my notes 357 00:24:12,395 --> 00:24:14,475 Speaker 1: in my quotes when I heard some of the photog 358 00:24:14,555 --> 00:24:19,395 Speaker 1: shout Tom, Tom, and there finally he was in a 359 00:24:19,475 --> 00:24:22,075 Speaker 1: tux and a beard, and he gave him that half 360 00:24:22,235 --> 00:24:26,835 Speaker 1: mile actor stare and pleasant smile, and without being asked, 361 00:24:27,275 --> 00:24:31,035 Speaker 1: he did a slow pan from side to side so 362 00:24:31,115 --> 00:24:34,835 Speaker 1: each cameraman could get him in profile and in full face. 363 00:24:35,195 --> 00:24:38,235 Speaker 1: And then he stopped and his eyes widened comically, and 364 00:24:38,275 --> 00:24:42,195 Speaker 1: he said, Keith Olberman, what are you doing here? Did 365 00:24:42,275 --> 00:24:47,515 Speaker 1: you get fired again? That even got a laugh from 366 00:24:47,515 --> 00:24:52,755 Speaker 1: the photographers. He then devolved into stick, come in with me. 367 00:24:53,435 --> 00:24:56,075 Speaker 1: You can have Rita's ticket better than that. Why don't 368 00:24:56,075 --> 00:24:59,155 Speaker 1: you go in with Rita. I'll go watch UCLA play 369 00:25:00,435 --> 00:25:03,515 Speaker 1: Rita Wilson smiled, waved, and while looking at her husband, 370 00:25:03,515 --> 00:25:06,915 Speaker 1: she pointed to her own and made that crazy gesture, 371 00:25:07,675 --> 00:25:10,915 Speaker 1: and on and on and on it went. I asked 372 00:25:10,995 --> 00:25:13,475 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks my questions. He gave me some good answers, 373 00:25:13,635 --> 00:25:15,955 Speaker 1: gave me a very nice double handed handshake, and he 374 00:25:16,035 --> 00:25:18,835 Speaker 1: moved on. And he was one or two people down 375 00:25:18,915 --> 00:25:21,475 Speaker 1: the gauntlet of the red carpet when I thought, dummy, 376 00:25:22,075 --> 00:25:25,555 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks is right there. He's a fan. You're a fan. 377 00:25:25,635 --> 00:25:28,195 Speaker 1: You have a camera with you, you have a mother, Get 378 00:25:28,195 --> 00:25:32,595 Speaker 1: a picture with him for mom. So I beckoned, So 379 00:25:32,675 --> 00:25:35,715 Speaker 1: you'll go in with me, hot dog. I explained what 380 00:25:35,755 --> 00:25:39,195 Speaker 1: I actually wanted, and I handed my little disposable cardboard camera. 381 00:25:39,315 --> 00:25:42,435 Speaker 1: Remember those to the nearest reporter. I knew, Lara Spencer 382 00:25:42,475 --> 00:25:45,075 Speaker 1: from Channel seven in New York more recently of Good 383 00:25:45,075 --> 00:25:48,835 Speaker 1: Morning America, and I leaned back over the hedges, which, 384 00:25:48,835 --> 00:25:51,595 Speaker 1: in those innocent pre nine eleven days, were the only 385 00:25:51,675 --> 00:25:55,755 Speaker 1: things actually keeping the famous safe from us. We merely 386 00:25:55,795 --> 00:25:59,835 Speaker 1: cover the famous. Lara took a couple of shots in them. 387 00:25:59,875 --> 00:26:02,275 Speaker 1: It would prove my head is about four times as 388 00:26:02,315 --> 00:26:07,875 Speaker 1: big as Tom's, and we both look like mutants, straining mutants. Wait, 389 00:26:07,915 --> 00:26:10,915 Speaker 1: this won't work, Tom Hanks finally said, and with that 390 00:26:11,075 --> 00:26:15,035 Speaker 1: he grabbed me and started to pull me over the shrubbery. 391 00:26:15,995 --> 00:26:20,275 Speaker 1: I was unprepared for this. I started to teeter. At 392 00:26:20,315 --> 00:26:23,155 Speaker 1: this exact moment, I heard coming from the carpet behind 393 00:26:23,155 --> 00:26:29,235 Speaker 1: me two guys chanting. Hanks turned around and said, hello, boys, Look, 394 00:26:29,275 --> 00:26:32,075 Speaker 1: it's Keith Olberman. Can you believe this? Finally a reason 395 00:26:32,115 --> 00:26:35,155 Speaker 1: actually show up to this dumb thing? Can we take 396 00:26:35,355 --> 00:26:37,875 Speaker 1: me in with this? You guys got an extra ticket here, 397 00:26:37,955 --> 00:26:40,835 Speaker 1: help me pull him over the hedge. The two guys 398 00:26:40,835 --> 00:26:44,875 Speaker 1: were Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. Somewhere in this process, 399 00:26:45,755 --> 00:26:49,315 Speaker 1: and Affleck and Damon were really young, then they really 400 00:26:49,355 --> 00:26:53,715 Speaker 1: could pull One of these three men broke my commer 401 00:26:53,755 --> 00:26:57,635 Speaker 1: bund I swear. Suddenly I was on the red carpet 402 00:26:57,675 --> 00:27:02,275 Speaker 1: with them, and with a loose commer bund afflex, struck 403 00:27:02,315 --> 00:27:06,875 Speaker 1: a wrestling pose and made as a fake grimis Lara 404 00:27:06,915 --> 00:27:09,515 Speaker 1: Spencer shouted, that's a perfect shot, at which point I 405 00:27:09,555 --> 00:27:12,995 Speaker 1: heard a sound effect, but in real life nearly identical 406 00:27:13,035 --> 00:27:15,475 Speaker 1: to the one that signaled the arrival of the reporters 407 00:27:15,755 --> 00:27:18,955 Speaker 1: throughout the movie. The right stuff like a thousand mosquitoes 408 00:27:19,075 --> 00:27:25,355 Speaker 1: moving in Unison man. Every photographer there panned over to us, 409 00:27:26,195 --> 00:27:28,635 Speaker 1: because even those who did not know who I was 410 00:27:28,875 --> 00:27:31,475 Speaker 1: or what Tom Hanks, Matt Damon, and Ben Affleck were 411 00:27:31,515 --> 00:27:36,035 Speaker 1: doing to me did notice security rushing to this scene. 412 00:27:36,155 --> 00:27:41,515 Speaker 1: It's all right, fellas, Hank shouted, he fell. They helped 413 00:27:41,555 --> 00:27:44,715 Speaker 1: me back over the hedge. Affleck asked me about the 414 00:27:44,715 --> 00:27:48,115 Speaker 1: Red Sox chances in the season ahead. Hanks slapped me 415 00:27:48,155 --> 00:27:51,355 Speaker 1: on the back. I barely managed to shout enjoy the 416 00:27:51,395 --> 00:27:54,875 Speaker 1: show boys, and Damon turned and said, well, we just did, 417 00:27:55,435 --> 00:28:00,035 Speaker 1: and they were gone. Any image of this scene taken 418 00:28:00,115 --> 00:28:04,875 Speaker 1: without sound and without context would have been greeted. Perhaps 419 00:28:04,915 --> 00:28:07,755 Speaker 1: the stuff from con was about Tom Hanks. It would 420 00:28:07,795 --> 00:28:11,435 Speaker 1: have shown three of Hollywood's top actors appearing to attack 421 00:28:12,315 --> 00:28:17,395 Speaker 1: or maybe trying to subdue some guy who looked vaguely 422 00:28:17,515 --> 00:28:21,955 Speaker 1: like some sports or newsguy or something. And the tucks 423 00:28:21,955 --> 00:28:25,115 Speaker 1: didn't fit well. It must have been a rental. It 424 00:28:25,195 --> 00:28:27,595 Speaker 1: might have been a perimeter breach. I mean, look at 425 00:28:27,635 --> 00:28:29,995 Speaker 1: the damage to the hedge, to say nothing of the 426 00:28:29,995 --> 00:28:34,235 Speaker 1: guy's cover bund. So when the story of Tom Hanks 427 00:28:34,235 --> 00:28:36,755 Speaker 1: and Rita Wilson yelling at the guy on the red 428 00:28:36,795 --> 00:28:39,315 Speaker 1: carpet at Con Broke. All I could think of was 429 00:28:40,195 --> 00:28:44,515 Speaker 1: here we go again. As a PostScript, I should note 430 00:28:44,515 --> 00:28:46,755 Speaker 1: that I have seen Tom Hanks several times since then, 431 00:28:46,755 --> 00:28:51,155 Speaker 1: and Hanks always mentions the cummer bund. Affleck once portrayed 432 00:28:51,195 --> 00:28:53,275 Speaker 1: me on Saturday Night Live, and I went up to 433 00:28:53,475 --> 00:28:57,435 Speaker 1: his studio, which was also the Football Night in America studio, 434 00:28:57,515 --> 00:29:00,595 Speaker 1: to say hello at his rehearsal and offer him any 435 00:29:00,635 --> 00:29:02,875 Speaker 1: tips he needed. And the next thing I knew that 436 00:29:03,035 --> 00:29:06,755 Speaker 1: was in the New York Post Oberman Crash's studio and 437 00:29:06,835 --> 00:29:09,915 Speaker 1: the photo of the four of us, Well, I clearly 438 00:29:09,955 --> 00:29:12,355 Speaker 1: had enough stuff for my Arrivals piece in the la time. 439 00:29:12,435 --> 00:29:14,475 Speaker 1: So I jogged back to their office is a little 440 00:29:14,555 --> 00:29:16,835 Speaker 1: late now and found the editor and she asked me 441 00:29:16,875 --> 00:29:18,555 Speaker 1: if the story would work, and I said, yes, I 442 00:29:18,555 --> 00:29:21,995 Speaker 1: have enough. And then I sheepishly said, listen, there was 443 00:29:22,035 --> 00:29:25,435 Speaker 1: a thing with me and Hanks and Affleck and Damon, 444 00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:28,155 Speaker 1: and can I mention it in the piece? Maybe at 445 00:29:28,155 --> 00:29:31,715 Speaker 1: the end. And again her eyes widened as I explained 446 00:29:31,715 --> 00:29:35,155 Speaker 1: what happened, and in great excitement she asked, did anybody 447 00:29:35,155 --> 00:29:38,075 Speaker 1: get a picture of this? And I said, well, yeah, 448 00:29:38,115 --> 00:29:42,795 Speaker 1: I thought about one hundred real photographers got a picture 449 00:29:42,835 --> 00:29:45,795 Speaker 1: of it, but I was certain that my friend Lara 450 00:29:45,835 --> 00:29:49,035 Speaker 1: from New York had gotten it on my disposable, which 451 00:29:49,075 --> 00:29:52,035 Speaker 1: is when the editor grabbed the camera from my hand 452 00:29:52,555 --> 00:29:56,115 Speaker 1: and left without a word, running down the hallway. And 453 00:29:56,155 --> 00:29:58,555 Speaker 1: the next thing I saw of my camera or what 454 00:29:58,795 --> 00:30:01,195 Speaker 1: was in it was the next morning when the front 455 00:30:01,195 --> 00:30:04,675 Speaker 1: page of the La Times Oscar section had four beautiful 456 00:30:04,755 --> 00:30:08,235 Speaker 1: full color pictures on it, one of Gwyneth Paltrow, Judy Dench, 457 00:30:08,315 --> 00:30:13,035 Speaker 1: James Coburn and Roberto Benini, One of Ilia Kazan. It 458 00:30:13,115 --> 00:30:16,875 Speaker 1: was the Elia Kazan's speech year. One of Kate Blanchette's 459 00:30:16,955 --> 00:30:20,355 Speaker 1: dress as seen from behind, so it was a picture 460 00:30:20,355 --> 00:30:23,835 Speaker 1: of Kate Blanchette's But the largest of all the pictures 461 00:30:24,275 --> 00:30:29,835 Speaker 1: me and the boys, with the caption the arrivals. Fox 462 00:30:29,955 --> 00:30:33,995 Speaker 1: Sports News anchor Keith Olberman is mugged by Tom Hanks, 463 00:30:34,075 --> 00:30:37,395 Speaker 1: left Ben Affleck and Matt Damon on the red carpet, 464 00:30:37,795 --> 00:30:43,675 Speaker 1: and lives to write about it, page f two. I 465 00:30:43,715 --> 00:30:47,715 Speaker 1: still have it framed on my wall, but just to 466 00:30:47,755 --> 00:31:06,075 Speaker 1: be clear, Tom Hanks didn't actually mug me. Still ahead 467 00:31:06,115 --> 00:31:08,435 Speaker 1: on countdown, the Tom Hanks story put me in an 468 00:31:08,595 --> 00:31:13,315 Speaker 1: LA confidential kind of mood, nostalgic see nostalgic for the 469 00:31:13,435 --> 00:31:16,155 Speaker 1: night I had the scoop of the year in LA 470 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:19,835 Speaker 1: maybe in the entire sports world. And then the cameraman said, 471 00:31:20,435 --> 00:31:25,195 Speaker 1: hold on, I might not have recorded it next first. 472 00:31:25,235 --> 00:31:27,155 Speaker 1: In each edition of Countdown, we feature a dog in 473 00:31:27,195 --> 00:31:30,835 Speaker 1: need you can help. Every dog has its day. Chelsea 474 00:31:31,035 --> 00:31:34,115 Speaker 1: has now faced death at the New York Pound twice. 475 00:31:34,875 --> 00:31:37,115 Speaker 1: She was rescued just in time. Three years ago she 476 00:31:37,195 --> 00:31:39,675 Speaker 1: went to a loving home, and then just about a 477 00:31:39,715 --> 00:31:42,715 Speaker 1: week ago, they found her tied up outside of the 478 00:31:42,715 --> 00:31:45,475 Speaker 1: New York Pound and with her was her friend, her 479 00:31:45,515 --> 00:31:51,355 Speaker 1: bonded dog pal Ace. The humans abandoned them. Chelsea is 480 00:31:51,395 --> 00:31:54,715 Speaker 1: about forty pounds and affectionate with everybody, loving and wiggley 481 00:31:54,835 --> 00:31:57,715 Speaker 1: and good with other dogs. But the moment they separated 482 00:31:57,755 --> 00:32:01,235 Speaker 1: her from Ace, she began to scream with loss and 483 00:32:01,355 --> 00:32:04,195 Speaker 1: in terror. And because she was afraid and alone, they 484 00:32:04,235 --> 00:32:06,595 Speaker 1: put her on the kill list again and because of that, 485 00:32:06,755 --> 00:32:09,115 Speaker 1: we have to get her out of there. Chelsea can 486 00:32:09,155 --> 00:32:11,635 Speaker 1: be adopted right now, no questions, or we can pledge 487 00:32:11,675 --> 00:32:13,955 Speaker 1: to help a rescue save her. Either way, you can 488 00:32:13,955 --> 00:32:16,035 Speaker 1: find her on my Twitter feeds. And any help you 489 00:32:16,075 --> 00:32:19,075 Speaker 1: can give her, even a retweet will help. I thank you, 490 00:32:19,675 --> 00:32:27,595 Speaker 1: and Chelsea, thanks you now for my favorite topic me 491 00:32:27,875 --> 00:32:29,995 Speaker 1: and some more things I promised not to tell, and 492 00:32:30,075 --> 00:32:33,635 Speaker 1: I can hear him saying it still Keith who was 493 00:32:33,795 --> 00:32:38,875 Speaker 1: cardin gillan Water thirty years ago, and more. I used 494 00:32:38,915 --> 00:32:43,275 Speaker 1: to get phone calls from a viewer named Harry Harry Ornest. 495 00:32:43,635 --> 00:32:46,235 Speaker 1: Harry had once been a training camp stickboy for the 496 00:32:46,275 --> 00:32:49,435 Speaker 1: long forgotten National Hockey League franchise, the New York Americans. 497 00:32:49,955 --> 00:32:53,715 Speaker 1: He later became a linesman in the National Hockey League. 498 00:32:53,715 --> 00:32:55,395 Speaker 1: He had stepped in as the owner of the nearly 499 00:32:55,435 --> 00:32:58,635 Speaker 1: bankrupt Saint Louis Blues. He owned the minor league baseball 500 00:32:58,635 --> 00:33:01,555 Speaker 1: team in Vancouver and most notably the Toronto Argonauts of 501 00:33:01,595 --> 00:33:05,355 Speaker 1: the Canadian Football League until he sold them to Wayne 502 00:33:05,395 --> 00:33:08,595 Speaker 1: Gretzky and Gretzky's boss, the owner of the LA Kings, 503 00:33:08,595 --> 00:33:12,715 Speaker 1: Bruce McNall and the late John Candy. And Harry was 504 00:33:12,755 --> 00:33:15,835 Speaker 1: one of those guys who knew everything going on with 505 00:33:16,035 --> 00:33:21,075 Speaker 1: everyone in one sport. And Harry was a fan of 506 00:33:21,075 --> 00:33:24,715 Speaker 1: my sports guests, so he would call me at KCBS 507 00:33:24,755 --> 00:33:28,035 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and later at ESPN, and he would say, 508 00:33:28,795 --> 00:33:31,515 Speaker 1: I am once again your source, Keith, for a story 509 00:33:31,555 --> 00:33:36,915 Speaker 1: about Bruce mcnal, you always mispronounced McNall mcnal. But I 510 00:33:36,955 --> 00:33:39,275 Speaker 1: will only give you this story if you can tell me. 511 00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:42,995 Speaker 1: And then he'd asked me a baseball trivia question, Keith, 512 00:33:43,755 --> 00:33:49,115 Speaker 1: who was cardon Gillan Water? This is pre Internet. No 513 00:33:49,315 --> 00:33:52,955 Speaker 1: chance I could look Carden gillan Water up in a 514 00:33:53,075 --> 00:33:56,115 Speaker 1: book and have Harry not hear me doing so over 515 00:33:56,155 --> 00:33:57,875 Speaker 1: the phone, so I would have to give him my 516 00:33:57,915 --> 00:34:01,475 Speaker 1: best answer. And usually I got these right, cardon Gillenwater, 517 00:34:01,955 --> 00:34:04,675 Speaker 1: and it's stuck in my head from somewhere who knows where, 518 00:34:04,675 --> 00:34:09,035 Speaker 1: and was an obscure outfielder from the nineteen forties Boston 519 00:34:09,115 --> 00:34:13,435 Speaker 1: Braves mostly And one day April twentieth, nineteen ninety one, 520 00:34:13,475 --> 00:34:17,155 Speaker 1: in fact, when I got the trivial answer right, Harry said, 521 00:34:17,195 --> 00:34:19,475 Speaker 1: would you happen to be going to the Los Angeles 522 00:34:19,595 --> 00:34:23,275 Speaker 1: Kings playoff game tonight? And I said, matter of fact, 523 00:34:23,315 --> 00:34:26,555 Speaker 1: I was, And Harry said, excellent, my friend. If you 524 00:34:26,635 --> 00:34:29,475 Speaker 1: watch mister mcnowll's private box you will see he will 525 00:34:29,475 --> 00:34:35,275 Speaker 1: have a visitor. I'm mister Raheeb rocket ismail from Notre 526 00:34:35,395 --> 00:34:39,155 Speaker 1: Dame University. He went on to say, mister mcnow has 527 00:34:39,235 --> 00:34:42,995 Speaker 1: just signed mister Ismail to a contract with the Toronto Argonauts, 528 00:34:43,315 --> 00:34:47,355 Speaker 1: formerly owned by your source. And he said, I'm led 529 00:34:47,395 --> 00:34:49,675 Speaker 1: to believe it is for four years and twenty six 530 00:34:49,715 --> 00:34:52,275 Speaker 1: million dollars. I am also led to believe a little 531 00:34:52,275 --> 00:34:54,755 Speaker 1: over half of it is guaranteed. I'm led to believe 532 00:34:54,795 --> 00:34:58,115 Speaker 1: mister mcnowell will be announcing it tomorrow, just before the 533 00:34:58,195 --> 00:35:02,155 Speaker 1: National Football League conducts its college draft. He's really going 534 00:35:02,195 --> 00:35:05,395 Speaker 1: to piss them all off, isn't he. It would make 535 00:35:05,515 --> 00:35:11,755 Speaker 1: Carden gillan water shamed. Also, he would remind me, mister 536 00:35:11,835 --> 00:35:13,995 Speaker 1: McNall has yet to pay me what he owes me 537 00:35:14,075 --> 00:35:19,195 Speaker 1: for when I sold him the Toronto Argonauts. Rocket Ismail 538 00:35:19,315 --> 00:35:21,715 Speaker 1: was not the best player available in the nineteen ninety 539 00:35:21,715 --> 00:35:24,515 Speaker 1: one National Football League Draft, which was to start the 540 00:35:24,755 --> 00:35:27,915 Speaker 1: next morning, bright and early in New York, but he 541 00:35:28,115 --> 00:35:31,275 Speaker 1: was the most exciting, a dynamic receiver and kick returner 542 00:35:31,475 --> 00:35:34,075 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame, and while it was not certain that 543 00:35:34,115 --> 00:35:37,115 Speaker 1: he would be chosen first overall by the Dallas Cowboys, 544 00:35:37,155 --> 00:35:41,595 Speaker 1: it was likely surely possible, and instead he had signed 545 00:35:41,595 --> 00:35:47,035 Speaker 1: with Toronto of the Canadian League. It seemed very, very unlikely. 546 00:35:47,235 --> 00:35:50,275 Speaker 1: And on the other hand, Harry Ornest had never been 547 00:35:50,315 --> 00:35:55,595 Speaker 1: wrong once with one of these story tips. So my producer, 548 00:35:55,675 --> 00:35:58,075 Speaker 1: Ron Grownick and I went to the Los Angeles Forum 549 00:35:58,195 --> 00:36:00,995 Speaker 1: we were going anyway as fans to the hockey playoff game, 550 00:36:01,435 --> 00:36:04,395 Speaker 1: and he asked our assignment desk at KCBS to send 551 00:36:04,475 --> 00:36:06,275 Speaker 1: us a camera crew because we were going to at 552 00:36:06,355 --> 00:36:09,995 Speaker 1: least get video of rocket Ismaeil at the forum. We're 553 00:36:10,075 --> 00:36:13,075 Speaker 1: leaving the forum or something. It was some kind of story, 554 00:36:14,115 --> 00:36:16,755 Speaker 1: and sure enough, from our seats we could easily see 555 00:36:16,795 --> 00:36:20,395 Speaker 1: into Bruce McNall's private box, and there, without a doubt, 556 00:36:20,755 --> 00:36:24,555 Speaker 1: totally unrecognized by any of the LA Hockey fans, was 557 00:36:24,595 --> 00:36:28,635 Speaker 1: this Notre Dame football player rocket Ismail. He and McNall 558 00:36:28,675 --> 00:36:30,915 Speaker 1: and the other executives seemed to be having a great time, 559 00:36:30,955 --> 00:36:33,595 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of backslapping and beer drinking 560 00:36:33,635 --> 00:36:36,955 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And I said to Ron, good God, we're 561 00:36:36,955 --> 00:36:40,035 Speaker 1: going to break a huge story here, but they won't 562 00:36:40,075 --> 00:36:42,435 Speaker 1: let us bring the cameraman in here to shoot video 563 00:36:42,475 --> 00:36:44,915 Speaker 1: of Ismail and McNall's box. We're gonna have to stake 564 00:36:44,955 --> 00:36:46,995 Speaker 1: him out. We're gonna have to get him after the 565 00:36:47,035 --> 00:36:53,115 Speaker 1: game ends out in the parking lot somewhere. Ron smiled knowingly. 566 00:36:53,955 --> 00:36:58,595 Speaker 1: Ron had once been an usher at the Great Western Forum, 567 00:36:59,035 --> 00:37:01,595 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, I know all the secret 568 00:37:01,595 --> 00:37:03,635 Speaker 1: ways out of here, he said to me, And I 569 00:37:03,715 --> 00:37:06,715 Speaker 1: know all the limo and the limo drivers never changed 570 00:37:06,955 --> 00:37:08,475 Speaker 1: last time I was here. I said, Hi to half 571 00:37:08,475 --> 00:37:10,315 Speaker 1: a dozen of them. Let me go find out which 572 00:37:10,315 --> 00:37:14,435 Speaker 1: one is waiting for them. Within fifteen minutes, Ron was back, 573 00:37:14,595 --> 00:37:17,795 Speaker 1: got it, He used to say that a lot. He 574 00:37:17,835 --> 00:37:20,515 Speaker 1: found the limo driver who was sent to take rocket 575 00:37:20,635 --> 00:37:23,155 Speaker 1: Ismail back to the hotel, and he found out which 576 00:37:23,435 --> 00:37:26,155 Speaker 1: side door, out of about a thousand of them in 577 00:37:26,195 --> 00:37:28,875 Speaker 1: this old arena, the driver had been told to wait 578 00:37:28,995 --> 00:37:32,315 Speaker 1: next to. I would have been back sooner, Ron said, 579 00:37:32,315 --> 00:37:34,315 Speaker 1: But he wanted to show me pictures of his new baby. 580 00:37:35,555 --> 00:37:38,355 Speaker 1: So now we used my cell phone, not a lot 581 00:37:38,355 --> 00:37:40,195 Speaker 1: of cell phones in use in nineteen ninety one, not 582 00:37:40,275 --> 00:37:42,875 Speaker 1: even in La to check on the camera crew. And 583 00:37:42,915 --> 00:37:44,675 Speaker 1: we were told the cameramen would meet us in the 584 00:37:44,715 --> 00:37:46,955 Speaker 1: parking lot at such and such an hour, and we 585 00:37:46,995 --> 00:37:49,435 Speaker 1: told the assignment desk to have him park near this 586 00:37:49,595 --> 00:37:52,875 Speaker 1: one side exit that we'd been told s MAO was 587 00:37:52,915 --> 00:37:55,035 Speaker 1: going to use when the game was over, and then 588 00:37:55,155 --> 00:37:58,115 Speaker 1: we waited, and with the Kings losing three to two 589 00:37:58,155 --> 00:38:00,675 Speaker 1: to Edmonton early in the third period, just as we 590 00:38:00,715 --> 00:38:02,275 Speaker 1: were planning to go out and meet up with the 591 00:38:02,275 --> 00:38:04,915 Speaker 1: camera guy, the Kings tied the game up. And that's 592 00:38:04,915 --> 00:38:08,675 Speaker 1: screwed up everything, because now the game might go into 593 00:38:08,755 --> 00:38:12,035 Speaker 1: overtime and end suddenly, and it might end in five minutes, 594 00:38:12,075 --> 00:38:14,195 Speaker 1: and it might end in five hours, and we might 595 00:38:14,195 --> 00:38:16,835 Speaker 1: get caught in the crowd exiting the arena and we 596 00:38:16,915 --> 00:38:19,955 Speaker 1: might miss rocket Ismail, or he might leave early, or 597 00:38:19,995 --> 00:38:24,755 Speaker 1: who knows. And then as the overtime period began, I 598 00:38:24,835 --> 00:38:27,275 Speaker 1: looked up at Bruce McNall's private box for like the 599 00:38:27,355 --> 00:38:30,355 Speaker 1: three hundredth time that night, and I saw it. I 600 00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:34,635 Speaker 1: saw rocket Ismail yawning. Let's get out of here, I 601 00:38:34,675 --> 00:38:38,395 Speaker 1: said to Ron. We left, We rendezvoued with the cameraman, 602 00:38:38,515 --> 00:38:41,835 Speaker 1: and we rehearsed what we planned to do, pure obnoxious 603 00:38:42,235 --> 00:38:46,955 Speaker 1: TV ambushing. We would hide across the street from the 604 00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:50,635 Speaker 1: side exit. The windows around the door of that side 605 00:38:50,675 --> 00:38:53,195 Speaker 1: exit would give us enough time to see him coming, 606 00:38:53,835 --> 00:38:55,995 Speaker 1: and as soon as the door opened, I would step 607 00:38:56,035 --> 00:38:58,955 Speaker 1: forward towards him. The cameraman would turn on his light 608 00:38:59,275 --> 00:39:01,955 Speaker 1: and press play and record on his video deck, and 609 00:39:01,995 --> 00:39:05,515 Speaker 1: I would essentially block rocket Ismail if I could, from 610 00:39:05,635 --> 00:39:08,955 Speaker 1: getting into his limo, and I'd just start firing questions 611 00:39:08,955 --> 00:39:12,915 Speaker 1: at him. The cameraman should never stop rolling, keep rolling, 612 00:39:12,955 --> 00:39:16,275 Speaker 1: I said, who knows what we'll get and how well 613 00:39:16,315 --> 00:39:19,835 Speaker 1: it all worked. Within minutes of the start of the 614 00:39:19,915 --> 00:39:23,515 Speaker 1: second overtime period, we saw Smail and a Los Angeles 615 00:39:23,595 --> 00:39:27,635 Speaker 1: King's executive named Roy Malouker bound up the steps toward 616 00:39:27,675 --> 00:39:30,715 Speaker 1: the side exit onto the street, and I waited until 617 00:39:30,755 --> 00:39:33,755 Speaker 1: they were obscured behind the door. I shouted to the 618 00:39:33,795 --> 00:39:37,155 Speaker 1: cameraman roll. The cameraman threw on his light. We took 619 00:39:37,195 --> 00:39:40,035 Speaker 1: a few steps from the parking lot across the street 620 00:39:40,115 --> 00:39:43,955 Speaker 1: onto the sidewalk. Rocket Keith Olberman from Channel two Action News. 621 00:39:44,115 --> 00:39:47,475 Speaker 1: Have you signed with the Toronto Argonauts? He said nothing, 622 00:39:48,115 --> 00:39:50,475 Speaker 1: but he looked like I had just stolen his wallet. 623 00:39:50,715 --> 00:39:52,915 Speaker 1: We understand you're getting twenty six million for four years, 624 00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:56,515 Speaker 1: about half of it guaranteed. Is that correct? He now 625 00:39:56,555 --> 00:40:00,115 Speaker 1: looked like he was an escaping prisoner who had just 626 00:40:00,155 --> 00:40:03,235 Speaker 1: been identified. Rocket, Why did you sign with the CFL 627 00:40:03,315 --> 00:40:07,435 Speaker 1: before the NFL draft again. He said nothing. He did 628 00:40:07,435 --> 00:40:10,955 Speaker 1: not need to. The look on his face confirmed everything 629 00:40:11,035 --> 00:40:12,955 Speaker 1: I was asking him, Rocket, Did you not want to 630 00:40:12,955 --> 00:40:17,715 Speaker 1: play for the Dallas Cowboys? Still silence. It suddenly dawned 631 00:40:17,755 --> 00:40:20,275 Speaker 1: on me that this guy might have finished second in 632 00:40:20,315 --> 00:40:22,675 Speaker 1: the voting for college football's Player of the Year award, 633 00:40:22,715 --> 00:40:25,435 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy, but he was having a lot of 634 00:40:25,475 --> 00:40:29,115 Speaker 1: trouble getting around me and my thirty two year old, 635 00:40:29,275 --> 00:40:33,715 Speaker 1: unathletic six foot three and a half blubbery frame. Did 636 00:40:33,795 --> 00:40:35,995 Speaker 1: Bruce McGall give you a part of the franchise? Rocket? 637 00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:39,435 Speaker 1: At which point I was finally gently and easily moved 638 00:40:39,475 --> 00:40:43,195 Speaker 1: aside by somebody with him Rocket Ismail slipped into the limo, 639 00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:48,475 Speaker 1: whereupound my cameraman, showing great perspicacity, dropped to his knees 640 00:40:48,915 --> 00:40:51,835 Speaker 1: and pointed the camera. Inside the limo, we could see 641 00:40:51,875 --> 00:40:55,875 Speaker 1: Ismail thoroughly shaken, sitting next to the King's executive, Roy Mallacker. 642 00:40:56,235 --> 00:41:00,355 Speaker 1: I shouted, in one last perfect question to Mallacer, Roy, 643 00:41:01,435 --> 00:41:03,555 Speaker 1: is that a rocket in your pocket? Are you just 644 00:41:03,675 --> 00:41:07,555 Speaker 1: glad to see? At which point, as if on cue, 645 00:41:07,555 --> 00:41:09,955 Speaker 1: the limo door slammed and the driver pealed out of 646 00:41:09,995 --> 00:41:15,955 Speaker 1: there with a huge screeching sound. The cameraman now turned 647 00:41:15,995 --> 00:41:18,235 Speaker 1: off his life I like, and my producer Ron and 648 00:41:18,275 --> 00:41:20,355 Speaker 1: I started jumping up and down in the parking lot. 649 00:41:20,635 --> 00:41:23,075 Speaker 1: We had not only gotten a terrific scoop and the 650 00:41:23,195 --> 00:41:26,075 Speaker 1: video would be on every CBS station in the country 651 00:41:26,115 --> 00:41:29,515 Speaker 1: within hours, but we had done it with an interview 652 00:41:29,555 --> 00:41:33,155 Speaker 1: in which the interviewee did not say a word, yet 653 00:41:33,275 --> 00:41:36,235 Speaker 1: still gave away the whole story just with facial expressions 654 00:41:36,235 --> 00:41:39,835 Speaker 1: and body language. Ron and I repeated these elements to 655 00:41:39,875 --> 00:41:42,595 Speaker 1: each other and high five and celebrated until the cameraman 656 00:41:42,635 --> 00:41:46,715 Speaker 1: suddenly said, hold on, I may have forgotten to roll tape. 657 00:41:47,035 --> 00:41:49,475 Speaker 1: I looked at him and smiling, I said that it 658 00:41:49,515 --> 00:41:53,075 Speaker 1: was fun to play with us like that, but just 659 00:41:53,115 --> 00:41:56,675 Speaker 1: shortened our lives by a year. And I didn't say play. 660 00:41:57,715 --> 00:42:02,115 Speaker 1: I'm sorry man, I'm not joking. Yeah, I forgot to roll. 661 00:42:02,475 --> 00:42:06,675 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, too bad. You asked great questions. Rocket 662 00:42:06,715 --> 00:42:08,995 Speaker 1: in your pocket? Uh? And the looks on his face, 663 00:42:09,195 --> 00:42:16,715 Speaker 1: damn sorry. Ron and I made him double check in 664 00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:20,355 Speaker 1: triple check and quadruple check, and when there was no 665 00:42:20,395 --> 00:42:24,035 Speaker 1: more doubt he had never hit play and record. We 666 00:42:24,155 --> 00:42:28,355 Speaker 1: stood forlorn, like a couple of guys who had just 667 00:42:28,395 --> 00:42:31,075 Speaker 1: seen the winning lottery ticket blown out of their hands 668 00:42:31,075 --> 00:42:35,235 Speaker 1: into the sewer or something. The cameraman packed up and left, 669 00:42:35,795 --> 00:42:38,315 Speaker 1: and as Ron and I stood there silently, I wondered 670 00:42:38,715 --> 00:42:43,475 Speaker 1: how it could possibly get worse, which is when it 671 00:42:43,595 --> 00:42:49,155 Speaker 1: started to rain. My great scoop the interview in which 672 00:42:49,155 --> 00:42:52,795 Speaker 1: the interview he said, nothing that through the National Football 673 00:42:52,875 --> 00:42:58,595 Speaker 1: League draft into utter chaos was now worthless. Bruce McNall, 674 00:42:58,595 --> 00:43:01,515 Speaker 1: of course, would announce the signing of Rocket Smael by 675 00:43:01,555 --> 00:43:05,435 Speaker 1: his Toronto Argonauts. I would be able to phone into 676 00:43:05,475 --> 00:43:08,635 Speaker 1: the CBS Sports office in New York and give them 677 00:43:08,635 --> 00:43:13,355 Speaker 1: a warning about the signing. Their overnight guy said thanks 678 00:43:13,515 --> 00:43:16,595 Speaker 1: and hung up on me, and I would phone into 679 00:43:16,635 --> 00:43:19,395 Speaker 1: our all news radio station KNX, and I would do 680 00:43:19,435 --> 00:43:23,915 Speaker 1: a live report from the parking lot outside the LA 681 00:43:24,035 --> 00:43:27,915 Speaker 1: Forum about rocket ismail at twelve fifteen on Sunday morning, 682 00:43:27,915 --> 00:43:31,795 Speaker 1: as if anybody was listening, and as if anybody who 683 00:43:31,915 --> 00:43:38,395 Speaker 1: was listening could have possibly cared about Canadian football. For 684 00:43:38,555 --> 00:43:40,915 Speaker 1: weeks thereafter, Ron g Relnick and I would be in 685 00:43:40,955 --> 00:43:44,515 Speaker 1: conversation about something else when one of us would pause 686 00:43:44,555 --> 00:43:49,395 Speaker 1: and say, can you believe he forgot to roll the 687 00:43:49,435 --> 00:43:53,155 Speaker 1: frequency of this dropped with time to once a month, 688 00:43:54,275 --> 00:43:59,475 Speaker 1: then once a year. I last saw Ron in twenty 689 00:43:59,515 --> 00:44:02,675 Speaker 1: twenty one. He and I told his wife the story, 690 00:44:02,795 --> 00:44:06,235 Speaker 1: after which involuntarily the way a casualty of a long 691 00:44:06,315 --> 00:44:09,035 Speaker 1: forgotten battle will describe the shock of his injury half 692 00:44:09,035 --> 00:44:12,995 Speaker 1: a century earlier, Ron said, can you believe he forgot 693 00:44:13,035 --> 00:44:17,595 Speaker 1: to roll? And I know, I know in my heart 694 00:44:18,435 --> 00:44:21,355 Speaker 1: that whether I live another week or another forty years, 695 00:44:21,755 --> 00:44:23,555 Speaker 1: one of the last things I will say to myself 696 00:44:23,555 --> 00:44:25,675 Speaker 1: on this earth will take me back to that damp 697 00:44:25,715 --> 00:44:29,995 Speaker 1: Saturday night in nineteen ninety one when I ambushed rocket ismail, 698 00:44:31,075 --> 00:44:37,675 Speaker 1: but my cameraman ambushed me? And you believe he forgot 699 00:44:39,155 --> 00:44:55,355 Speaker 1: to roll? I've done all the damage I can do. Here. 700 00:44:55,395 --> 00:44:57,435 Speaker 1: Here are the credits. Most of the music was arranged, 701 00:44:57,475 --> 00:45:00,395 Speaker 1: produced and performed by Brian Ray and John Phillips Chanel, 702 00:45:00,475 --> 00:45:04,195 Speaker 1: who are the Countdown musical directors. All orchestration and keyboards 703 00:45:04,195 --> 00:45:07,955 Speaker 1: by John Philip Chaneil, guitars, bass and drums by Brian Ray, 704 00:45:08,115 --> 00:45:12,155 Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Other Beethoven selections have been arranged 705 00:45:12,195 --> 00:45:15,155 Speaker 1: and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. The sports 706 00:45:15,235 --> 00:45:17,635 Speaker 1: music is the Olderman theme from ESPN two and it 707 00:45:17,675 --> 00:45:20,715 Speaker 1: was written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN, Inc. 708 00:45:21,195 --> 00:45:24,795 Speaker 1: Musical comments by Nancy Fauss. The best baseball stadium organist ever. 709 00:45:25,115 --> 00:45:28,435 Speaker 1: Our announcer was my friend Richard Lewis Cummer. Buns were 710 00:45:28,435 --> 00:45:32,555 Speaker 1: adjusted by Tom Hanks. Everything else is pretty much my fault. 711 00:45:32,875 --> 00:45:35,275 Speaker 1: So that's countdown for this the eight hundred and seventieth 712 00:45:35,355 --> 00:45:38,915 Speaker 1: day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically 713 00:45:38,955 --> 00:45:41,995 Speaker 1: elected government of the United States. Don't forget to keep 714 00:45:42,115 --> 00:45:45,675 Speaker 1: arresting him while we still can. The next scheduled countdown 715 00:45:45,755 --> 00:45:48,675 Speaker 1: is tomorrow. Till then, I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, 716 00:45:48,955 --> 00:45:51,035 Speaker 1: good night, and good luck. 717 00:45:57,155 --> 00:46:00,315 Speaker 2: The members are reminded to abide by decorum. 718 00:45:59,835 --> 00:46:09,435 Speaker 1: Of the House. Countdown with Keith Olreman is a production 719 00:46:09,675 --> 00:46:14,955 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. 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