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Speaker 1: You can take anyone's class, pull up anyone's class, and

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Speaker 1: you can hypothetically add kids that aren't committed or maybe

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Speaker 1: even committed elsewhere. You can put them in Ohio State's class.

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Speaker 1: If you think Alabama's about to land JC Latham and

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Speaker 1: they're going to add Tommy Brockermeyer, the Brockameyer twins, well,

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Speaker 1: you can go ahead and throw them in Alabama's class

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Speaker 1: and calculate what their overall point total would be at

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Speaker 1: that point. Everyone does simulated classes anyway, mad hiccup there,

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Speaker 1: why don't you take advantage of that tool? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's my advice because to me, the class calculator is

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Speaker 1: even more fun than what a fan crystal Ball would

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Speaker 1: be Wade in the podcast review, How can Virginia Tech

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Speaker 1: get back to perennial prominence? Is it a facilities thing?

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Speaker 1: Is it a lack of donor giving? What do they

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Speaker 1: need to do to get back to where they were

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Speaker 1: years ago. Well, Wade, let's lay out the formula. The

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Speaker 1: formula years ago was special teams and defense. So let

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Speaker 1: me ask you if Virginia Tech returned to what they

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Speaker 1: were when they were on top of the world and

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Speaker 1: running things by winning special teams and winning defense. In

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Speaker 1: other words, if you could take a post Michael Vick. Now,

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick kind of changed everything there, but when they

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Speaker 1: were good, even after Michael Vick, if I just took

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Speaker 1: that product and put it on the field right now,

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Speaker 1: what's it doing in the ACC. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: holding a candle to what Clemson's doing. So the answer

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Speaker 1: to getting back to the level that they were in

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Speaker 1: regard to competing against the ACC is probably doing something

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Speaker 1: either different to or on top of what they used

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Speaker 1: to be. I'm, of course talking about offense now justin

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Speaker 1: Flinte is there, and I think that Virginia Tech still

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Speaker 1: feels to me and a lot of people like an

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Speaker 1: anonymous program. We had a question about Michigan State earlier

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Speaker 1: for different reasons, of course, due to the tenure of

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Speaker 1: the respective coaching stats, both of those programs to me

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Speaker 1: feel anonymous. When you mentioned Virginia Tech football, you guys,

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Speaker 1: know what you think about your program, But nationally, what

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Speaker 1: does someone in Houston, Texas think about Virginia Tech football?

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Speaker 1: They used to know, at least they did, used to

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Speaker 1: have a very very apparent identity. I know what the

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Speaker 1: identity there is. Now you can tell me what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to do. I don't know what it is. So

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Speaker 1: first things first, before you worry about facilities or donor giving,

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Speaker 1: what's the culture. What's the identity? In other words, what

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Speaker 1: are you giving those people to believe in in order

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Speaker 1: to write those checks. People got to believe in something

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Speaker 1: before they want to endorse it and they want to

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Speaker 1: bankroll it. So that's the first thing I would worry about.

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Speaker 1: Robert podcast review. Oh loaded question here? What happened to

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Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen Alabama team? They crushed almost everyone and

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Speaker 1: route to the title game and then they got humiliated

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Speaker 1: by Clemson. Were they just that badly outmatched or was

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Speaker 1: there something else in play? No, they weren't that badly

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Speaker 1: out matched by Clemson. I always equate a football game

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Speaker 1: to a grab claw machine. Now you guys have heard

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Speaker 1: me say this before, but let's use instead of the

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Speaker 1: grab claw machine, let's use just a simulator. Let's use

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Speaker 1: ping pong balls. Okay, let's put one hundred ping pong

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Speaker 1: balls in a machine, and let's put a final score

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Speaker 1: inside every king pong ball. Now, this is not the

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Speaker 1: way real football works. But if you could live in

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Speaker 1: one hundred universes, and you could have the same Clemson

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Speaker 1: team and the same Alabama team, take the field in

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Speaker 1: one hundred different universes and play one hundred versions of

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Speaker 1: that game. Let's take the final scores of those one

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Speaker 1: hundred games, put them all on pieces of paper, wat

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Speaker 1: them up, put them in those ping pong balls, and

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Speaker 1: then let's put them in the machine, just like the

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Speaker 1: NBA Draft lottery, and let's draw those balls out. Very

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Speaker 1: very very few of those balls are going to have

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Speaker 1: a Clemson four touchdown win, And in fact, I would

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Speaker 1: venture to guess there may only be one or two

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Speaker 1: in there. There would also be some, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: there'd be some balls in there that had Alabama winning

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Speaker 1: that game by three plus touchdowns. Those are the extreme outliers.

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Speaker 1: Most of those games are going to be one possession games,

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Speaker 1: a vast majority of them. It just so happens that

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Speaker 1: a chain of events unfolded, you know, the three percent

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Speaker 1: chance unfold that night instead of the seventy plus percent chance.

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Speaker 1: That's the very very basic way of explaining what happened. Now,

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Speaker 1: there are all kinds of reasons, like I was close

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Speaker 1: to the Alabama program that year. I think I was

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Speaker 1: at seven of their games that year. There was a

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Speaker 1: ton going on behind the scenes there. Had they beaten

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Speaker 1: clumbs in that night, you would have still gotten stories

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Speaker 1: afterwards about how big a mess they were internally. That's

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Speaker 1: what's always fascinated being about Nick Saban. They've been on

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Speaker 1: this incredible run, and if you're not privy to the

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Speaker 1: inner workings of that program, if you're watching the documentary

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Speaker 1: twenty years from now, you may look back. If they

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Speaker 1: don't choose to tell you behind the scenes stuff, you

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Speaker 1: may look back and say, man, they were on top

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Speaker 1: of the world. They didn't have all this mess going

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Speaker 1: on that some of these seven and five programs did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they do, Yeah they did, Yeah they have, Yeah

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Speaker 1: they will. I'm telling you, guys, I can't a lot

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Speaker 1: of this stuff you're told about with the condition that

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Speaker 1: you don't repeat it, but just some serious drama. Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban deserves a Nobel Peace Prize on top of any

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year awards for how he's held it

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Speaker 1: together in some years with so many things. When you

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Speaker 1: get the kind of coaches, the kinds of egos, the

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Speaker 1: kinds of names, the kind of talent that they've had

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Speaker 1: come through there, and you put them all together, who

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Speaker 1: man the consequences of success? I've talked about it a lot,

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Speaker 1: and they were on display behind the scenes at least,

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Speaker 1: so I guess they weren't on display, but they were

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Speaker 1: there that year. Now, what does that sound like to

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Speaker 1: a Clemson fan? Excuse making? I'm not making excuses. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you what reality was, and I'm telling you Clemson

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Speaker 1: wholeheartedly deserve to win the game that night. But you're

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Speaker 1: asking me what happened. What happened is a matchup that

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Speaker 1: probably would yield a result of one possession either way

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Speaker 1: seventy plus percent of the time, just so happened to

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Speaker 1: go sideways. Good for Clemson. Good for Clemson. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the follow up question. This is Trevor Lawrence's last year

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Speaker 1: of playing college ball, and all likely this year if

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Speaker 1: they don't win the national title this year. To think

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Speaker 1: about how you'll view his his career kind of in

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Speaker 1: comparison to Tua. Tua comes off the bench as a

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Speaker 1: true freshman, wins a national title, and everyone assumes, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, if he just did this coming in cold

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Speaker 1: as a true freshman. I mean, Bama's how are they

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Speaker 1: going to what are they going to do? They're they

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Speaker 1: going to repeat under him before he goes to the NFL. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: the answer is they never won another one with him

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. That was it. That was as close as

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Speaker 1: they got the first time. So Trevor Lawrence won a

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Speaker 1: national championship the first time, they made it back the

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Speaker 1: next year they got beat by LSU. What are they

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Speaker 1: going to do this year? If they don't win one

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Speaker 1: this year? How crazy will that be? Everyone thought, Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness. After Trevor Lawrence just smokes Alabama, He's back

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Speaker 1: two more years. Who's ever going to stop clemsing the

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Speaker 1: sport life? Just the natural order of things being chaotic,

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Speaker 1: that's what can stop you. This is not Xbox, this

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Speaker 1: is real life. So that's no prediction on Clemson one

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Speaker 1: where they're they're just sort of something to think about.

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Speaker 1: Maddie Ice weather Man. I don't know you, Maddie, but

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Speaker 1: I think I like you already a podcast review. Here

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Speaker 1: he says, why does it feel like South Carolina cannot

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Speaker 1: have sustained success on the field or in recruiting? How

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Speaker 1: do you fix South Carolina? Kind of the same way

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Speaker 1: that I described Virginia Tech, I can describe South Carolina. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm closer to Carolina because I've covered the SEC for

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Speaker 1: a while. But if I live in Billings, Montana, I'm

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Speaker 1: just flexing geographically now. But if I live in like Tacoma, Washington,

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Speaker 1: and someone says, what is South Carolina football? What's the answer.

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Speaker 1: What's the answer? If they ask you what is Georgia football?

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Speaker 1: You know exactly what it is. You know exactly if

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Speaker 1: you watch college football, you know what the identity of

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Speaker 1: Georgia's program is. It may be changing right now, but

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Speaker 1: you know what it's been. What's Carolina's identity? And then, secondly,

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Speaker 1: no matter what your identity is, no matter what you

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Speaker 1: try to be philosophically on offense or defense, if you

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Speaker 1: can't keep kids on the field, if you can't keep

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Speaker 1: them healthy, that matter. Like that's been their biggest problem.

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Speaker 1: They've been kind of a lesser chronicled version of what

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Speaker 1: Alabama's been last couple of years now. Bama's still been good,

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Speaker 1: but they've had a bunch of injuries. Carolina's had a

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Speaker 1: ton of injuries too, So the first step to fixing

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Speaker 1: them fixed strength and conditioning or whatever in the world

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Speaker 1: you have to do to keep players on the field.

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Speaker 1: I know they've made moves in that department in the

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Speaker 1: off season. Now we've got to see if it yields results.

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Speaker 1: Let's see next up. Jeremiah in the podcast review, do

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Speaker 1: you think Jared Guarantano will be a star quarterback for

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Speaker 1: Tennessee this year? Or is Harrison Bailey the future? No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jared Garantano is capable of being a

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Speaker 1: star quarterback. Now do I think he'll be the starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback yet to start the year? I do certainly, though,

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Speaker 1: I think Harrison Bailey is the future, so that doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily mean in week one or week five. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think he is the not just the long term future.

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Speaker 1: I think he's on the field at some point this year.

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Speaker 1: Rob in the podcast review, we hear kids making official

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Speaker 1: visits to campus, But how does that work? What all

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Speaker 1: do they do? Well? Rob, they either fly in or

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Speaker 1: drive in, usually Friday night. Because keep in mind they've

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Speaker 1: probably played a high school game, so they're coming in

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Speaker 1: Friday night or more commonly early Saturday, and they of

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Speaker 1: course they're pregame, so they're in a whatever area of

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Speaker 1: the stadium you have them pre game, and then they

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Speaker 1: are on the field pre game, they're walking around on

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Speaker 1: the sideline. Then they go into a special area, usually

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Speaker 1: in the lower level end zone right there on the field.

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Speaker 1: That's where most programs have it set up. After the game,

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Speaker 1: there is a recruiting area, usually in the stadium. Coaches

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Speaker 1: do their postgame press conference, and then they're right over

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Speaker 1: there recruiting, and you probably say them out with a

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Speaker 1: player host that night. Now, this is if it's during

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Speaker 1: the season, like during a game week, you're probably going

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Speaker 1: out that night with player hosts. The next morning, Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: you're usually at the head coach's house having breakfast. You

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Speaker 1: are probably mixing in at some point a tour of

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Speaker 1: the academic facilities for the department that you're going to

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Speaker 1: pursue a major m If you go on a non

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Speaker 1: football weekend, still most of this happens. You just have

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Speaker 1: more time to do the touring. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: you have these superstar deans of programs and different degree

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Speaker 1: tracks that'll have these very elaborate presentations laid out. Strength science,

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Speaker 1: sports science, strength and conditioning. They'll have a presentation laid out,

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Speaker 1: and so your entire academic and football plan, the programs

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Speaker 1: that do it right is explained to you. It's laid

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Speaker 1: out to you, and I'll tell you what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen in the future. Five years from now, a lot

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Speaker 1: of this will have shifted towards what their business plan

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Speaker 1: is for you, what different opportunities and endorsement potential that

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Speaker 1: you have there, and they'll have full market research done

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Speaker 1: on what your earnings potential will be by going to

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Speaker 1: the University of Florida, let's say, versus if you were

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Speaker 1: to commit to Florida State. And we can show you

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Speaker 1: on a chart here their wide receivers on average have

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Speaker 1: earned X number of dollars through endorsements. Whereas we have

641
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Speaker 1: these connections with this car dealership, this supplement company on

642
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Speaker 1: top of these boosters. You guys know that's coming. I

643
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Speaker 1: got a lot of thoughts on that. By the way,

644
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Speaker 1: I've been doing some thinking on that, and I don't

645
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Speaker 1: know necessarily that this name, image and likeness thing is

646
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Speaker 1: going to be nearly the death knell of college athletics

647
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: for all. But if you, like people are suggesting it,

648
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Speaker 1: will be not ready to talk about it yet still

649
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Speaker 1: formulating that thought. It's in a dangerous place right now,

650
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Speaker 1: which is just in my head. Nitny Lyons podcast review section.

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Speaker 1: You recently talked about Tier one programs. I'm wondering how

652
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Speaker 1: Penn State can go about grabbing those monkey bars. I'll

653
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Speaker 1: explain what that means in the second. Winning the Big

654
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: Ten a few years ago didn't do the trick. Losing

655
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Speaker 1: by three and a half points on average per game.

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Speaker 1: That's not enough. What gets us there? Well, the monkey

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Speaker 1: bars are this. Well, the way I describe the Tier

658
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Speaker 1: one programs, Dama, Ohio State, Clemson is there, Oklahoma is

659
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Speaker 1: either very close to there or there. I put Georgia there,

660
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Speaker 1: but since they haven't won a championship, a lot of

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Speaker 1: you don't want to. That's fine, Here's what I mean.

662
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Speaker 1: What I mean is these programs all have something in common.

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Speaker 1: This is where Georgia does not fit that description. Yet

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Speaker 1: all these other programs LSU I think is there. These

665
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Speaker 1: programs have found superstar, transcendent talents at the quarterback position,

666
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Speaker 1: which has led to a flood of perimeter skill position

667
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: talent coming in, and there is now unlimited recruiting resources

668
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: and they don't hurt to get talent, and it's like

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Speaker 1: the quality of play has elevated to a degree that

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Speaker 1: all the good coaches want to come there. They get

671
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Speaker 1: blank checks written to invest into building and beefing up

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Speaker 1: their recruiting departments, their football operations, their support staff, nutrition,

673
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: sports science. Everything takes off, and it's like, if you

674
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: look at a graph, they're moving at a different trajectory

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Speaker 1: forward and onward and upward than the Tier two teams.

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Speaker 1: And what concerns you if your Penn State, or what

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Speaker 1: concerns you if you're Tennessee is if you're not already

678
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Speaker 1: in Tier one, you worry that those programs, those few

679
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Speaker 1: are detaching themselves so much that you won't be able

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Speaker 1: to reach them. And so what I made it analogous

681
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Speaker 1: to on our previous show is if you're watching American

682
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Speaker 1: Ninja Warrior. I don't know why I brought it up,

683
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Speaker 1: because I don't watch the show, but I used to

684
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Speaker 1: work in an NBC affiliate and I used to see

685
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Speaker 1: it on so I remember I'd always see these folks

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Speaker 1: jumping for these monkey bars, and if they didn't grab it,

687
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: that fall in the pool is first and medic But

688
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: if they do grab them, they swing there for a second.

689
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Speaker 1: But all these folks are physically fit, so you know,

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Speaker 1: if they got a hold of the monkey bars, they're

691
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Speaker 1: eventually going to be able to pull themselves up and

692
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 1: from there they're up there, they're not falling. And that's

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Speaker 1: kind of how I feel about these teams that aren't

694
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Speaker 1: currently Tier one what they have to do to become

695
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Speaker 1: Tier one. Now for Penn State, that's all metaphorical, like

696
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Speaker 1: how do you actually make that happen? Getting a superstar

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Speaker 1: quarterback or getting a legit future first round NFL talented quarterback,

698
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Speaker 1: that's how you do it, because then you're able to

699
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Speaker 1: open up these pipelines to South Florida wide receiver talent

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Speaker 1: and East Texas wide receiver talent and all this different

701
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Speaker 1: talent all these other programs are getting, cause the best

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and running back and offensive line talent, they

703
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Speaker 1: want to go play with those superstar quarterbacks. That's why

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Speaker 1: after Deshaun Watson came to Clemson, they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: problem anymore. You notice when we talked earlier about that

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Alabama class, that wide receiver class, kid named

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Speaker 1: Jerry Judy and a kid named Devonte Smith and Henry Ruggs.

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Speaker 1: A class later they had Jalen Waddle. What did that follow? Well,

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Speaker 1: it was in the same class as to a tongue

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Speaker 1: of Ailoa. They knew there's a stud going to Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I want to go play with him. Well, where is

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Speaker 1: Penn States? Because Hackenberg wasn't that? So where is that?

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Speaker 1: That's what you look for. That's what it takes. Next up,

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Speaker 1: more Go Geaux by the Way podcast review. This is

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Speaker 1: a non football question. I noticed you have washed in

716
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Speaker 1: his blood in your Twitter bio. I'm curious, what is

717
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Speaker 1: your favorite Bible verse? Well, this one's easy to remember

718
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Speaker 1: for me. It's etched in my brain. One Corinthians ten thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a very good message, obviously, But the reason

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Speaker 1: why it became my favorite is because back when I

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Speaker 1: was in a Sunday school class, we were put through

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Speaker 1: sort of a boot camp of sorts. Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: you would call it a church boot camp for memorization,

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Speaker 1: and we had to memorize verses and this one was

725
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Speaker 1: like the verse of the week. And the way that

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Speaker 1: they tested you is you got marched in front of

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Speaker 1: the congregation on a Sunday night and the spotlight was

728
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Speaker 1: on you and microphones in your face, and if you

729
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Speaker 1: don't know you're averse, then you're gonna look like an idiot.

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Speaker 1: And some people crashed and burned. Well. First Corinthians ten

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Speaker 1: thirteen was mine, and boy did I memorize it now.

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Speaker 1: The reason I like it on top of just that

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Speaker 1: memory is because it lets you know. A. The excuse

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Speaker 1: of I couldn't help it is never valid in his eyes,

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Speaker 1: at least never valid because B you're assured that you're

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Speaker 1: not going to have anything put in front of you

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Speaker 1: that you can't handle. So what's the determining factor? You

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Speaker 1: not the temptation you? Good question, though, let's move it

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Speaker 1: right along Atticus EP podcast review section. It may be

740
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Speaker 1: an unpopular opinion, but one of the most underrated rivalries

741
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Speaker 1: to me was always Colorado Nebraska the day after Thanksgiving.

742
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Speaker 1: I went to it when I was growing up in Boulder.

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Speaker 1: The states hate each other. If realignment happens like you

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Speaker 1: think it will, do you believe Colorado and Nebraska could

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Speaker 1: end up back in the Big twelve the way that

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Speaker 1: I loosely envision it. Yes, I would say so to

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Speaker 1: be clear, the way that I envisioned this is not

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Speaker 1: something that I've had slipped to me on a piece

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Speaker 1: of paper. It's not something that I've had a conference

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Speaker 1: commissioner tell me off the record. This is strictly speculation

751
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: on my part, and it's a longer, kind of a

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Speaker 1: broader way down the road mentality that I've always had

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Speaker 1: that we're eventually headed to four super conferences, if you

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Speaker 1: want to call them, that a kind of Leviathan sec.

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Speaker 1: Same thing for the ACC, same thing for the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: probably all of them with sixteen teams apiece, and then

757
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Speaker 1: sort of emerging of the PAC twelve and the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you call that, but I would

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Speaker 1: imagine if it happened, maybe maybe maybe possibly Nebraska and

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Speaker 1: Colorado end up there. The problem is Nebraska is currently

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. So now that I think about

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Speaker 1: it more, whereas geographically it may make sense, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that that ends up happening, because Nebraska is not

764
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Speaker 1: leaving the Big Ten voluntarily. If they're out of there,

765
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Speaker 1: it's called someone kicked him out of there. B Bacon

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Speaker 1: in the YouTube comments section, Josh, what are your thoughts

767
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Speaker 1: on Arizona State in twenty twenty. I think they have

768
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Speaker 1: a really good shot to be undefeated when they go

769
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Speaker 1: to Autsen to play Oregon November thirteenth. I want to

770
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Speaker 1: know what you think about the program and the direction. I, sir,

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Speaker 1: let me be delicate here. I do not believe they

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Speaker 1: have a great shot to be undefeated when they go

773
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Speaker 1: in there November thirteenth. Now here's the upside, Okay, Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 1: You will find people to tell you he's the best

775
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the Pac twelve this year. The problem is,

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Speaker 1: potentially the problem is I'm reading over some of his

777
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Speaker 1: numbers Pro Football Focus. This was very, very heavily talked

778
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: about in Sun Devil Circles pointed out last year he

779
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: was the least accurate quarterback. His accuracy rating was forty

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Speaker 1: eight point four percent. Now is that concern or was

781
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Speaker 1: that optimism? Because he was a true freshman last year,

782
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Speaker 1: so you could say, Okay, well he shined and put

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Speaker 1: up the numbers he did despite that inaccuracy. As a

784
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Speaker 1: true freshman, that means that was his floor. Think about

785
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Speaker 1: how high his ceiling is. You could say that, or

786
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Speaker 1: you could say, well, that's just always going to be

787
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Speaker 1: a concern. So you know, maybe what we saw from

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Speaker 1: him his first year was just a lot of fireworks,

789
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: but now as the league adjusts, it gets tougher for him.

790
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Speaker 1: A lot of attention on him. If the inaccuracy was

791
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Speaker 1: there as a freshman, as he took people by surprise,

792
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Speaker 1: what happens when everyone's paying more attention. I don't know

793
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Speaker 1: which way I'm going there. The biggest question for them,

794
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys realize this. You know

795
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: Herman Edwards as the head coach. How many of you

796
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: know Marvin Lewis is the defensive coordinator out there this year.

797
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: Had a lot of experience, if nothing else, that's a

798
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: big question. But think about who they will play before

799
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Speaker 1: they go to Oregon. They got Brigham Young. You asked

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Speaker 1: Tennessee about that, They go to Southern cal They've got

801
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Speaker 1: back to back road games at Colorado at Washington State.

802
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: These back to back roadies in the West are nothing

803
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Speaker 1: to laugh at. I don't care what the records are

804
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Speaker 1: of your opponents. Just going just flying to Colorado and

805
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: flying to Pullman, Washington. It's not a small task and

806
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Speaker 1: there's a four week stretch where they're at Colorado at Wazoo,

807
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Speaker 1: They've got Cal at home, and then that game at

808
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Speaker 1: Oregon is on short rest. At Oregon, third road game

809
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Speaker 1: in four weeks, and it's on a Friday. So it's treacherous.

810
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Speaker 1: I'll say that it's very treacherous. College Football Central in

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Speaker 1: the YouTube comment section, what do you see on the

812
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Speaker 1: horizon for the two Mississippi schools. I think the air

813
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: raid at State will be good enough for an upset

814
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Speaker 1: win each year. But I think Kiffin might be a

815
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Speaker 1: home run higher. He seems to have matured a lot,

816
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Speaker 1: and I think Old miss could eventually become a contender. Yeah,

817
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm still very much in the wait and see mode

818
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Speaker 1: with how things are going to work out. From Mike

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Speaker 1: Leach here, and you know, I was listening to Bud

820
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Speaker 1: Elliott and Barton on the Barton and Bud Show. I

821
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Speaker 1: highly suggest you guys subscribe to that one. That's another

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00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: podcast we put out here, And you know, they were

823
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Speaker 1: kind of talking about how the air raid, what is

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Speaker 1: its impact in the SEC and twenty twenty if you

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00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: bring it down here in two thousand and eight, if

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Speaker 1: you bring it twenty twelve. Boy, that's a different story

827
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Speaker 1: because you're taking everyone by surprise, because everyone is built

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Speaker 1: to defend what Alabama and LSU were doing power football

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Speaker 1: two back, lineup in the eye, run it down your throat,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you bring the air

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Speaker 1: raid in here, and I'm having to defend four or

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Speaker 1: five receivers every single play. Well, now everyone throws it like,

833
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Speaker 1: look what LSU did last year, Look what Alabama's been doing.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's moved towards a more wide, open, spread based approach.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's throwing the ball more Mississippi State. They may succeed

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Speaker 1: under Mike Leach. I don't think it's going to because

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Speaker 1: they take anyone by surprise. So if they're not taking

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Speaker 1: anyone by surprise, are they out scheming anyone. It's not

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Speaker 1: that hard. Talk to defensive guys. Go find a defensive

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Speaker 1: high school coach. You don't need to go find a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator in the SEC. Go find a high school

842
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Speaker 1: defensive coach. Ask them to watch what Mike Leach does

843
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: offensively and ask them how hard is his offense to

844
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Speaker 1: understand and diagnose. They'll break it down for you in

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Speaker 1: a napkin setting. They don't need that much time to

846
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: break it down for you. Now, I'm not telling you

847
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Speaker 1: a high school coach is equipped running there and defend it.

848
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Speaker 1: But Alabama and LSU and Auburn and Texas A and

849
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Speaker 1: m I'm mentioning teams you have to play every year.

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Speaker 1: They are equipped. They're fully equipped to defend it. And

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Speaker 1: so I question how Mike Leach's style transitions into the

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Speaker 1: SEC in twenty twenty. Defensive back talent in the country,

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Speaker 1: that's who they're coming down, That's who he's coming down

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Speaker 1: here to play. So it's not that I don't think

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Speaker 1: he can do it. I have healthy skepticism about it. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do agree with what you said. Are they the

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Speaker 1: caliber of team that can pull an upset a year? Sure? Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: As I'm not telling you they're going to be easy

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Speaker 1: to play. I'm just telling you they're not going to

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Speaker 1: take the cattle prod to the neck of the conference

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Speaker 1: like maybe he would have a decade ago. Now, as

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Speaker 1: for ole Miss, I have a lot more confidence in

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Speaker 1: what Lane Kiffin will do. I find that style to

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Speaker 1: be maybe a little bit more sustainable. I think there

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Speaker 1: is a lot more complexity, there's a lot more diversity,

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Speaker 1: there are many more layers to what Lane Kiffin's offensive

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Speaker 1: style will bring at Ole miss As opposed to what

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Speaker 1: Mike Leach will do. I think he's a much better recruiter.

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Speaker 1: I know Mississippi State kept some guys on from a

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Speaker 1: player personnel standpoint, behind the scenes that people have confidence

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Speaker 1: in when it comes to keeping some in state talent

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Speaker 1: in Startville, I think the ceilings a little bit higher,

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Speaker 1: significantly higher as a matter of fact, for Kiffin at

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Speaker 1: Ole miss As opposed to Leach at Mississippi State. CFB

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Speaker 1: Media on YouTube. When you're in a situation where you

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Speaker 1: get to interview coaches, what goes through your head when

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Speaker 1: you're formulating and selecting the best questions to ask? What

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Speaker 1: makes a good question? And how different is the process

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Speaker 1: for off season interviews versus halftime and postgame Let's break

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Speaker 1: these down one at a time. This is a good question.

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Speaker 1: I've told you guys, this format is for any kind

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Speaker 1: of question you want to ask. I mean, if it's inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: obviously I'll backspace it out of here. But by and large,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think there are there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of elements of our industry that you're curious about. I

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Speaker 1: know you are, because when I was growing up, I

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Speaker 1: was curious about it. It's the behind the scenes stuff

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Speaker 1: that you Just a lot of people in the college

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Speaker 1: football and media industry don't think that they don't know

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Speaker 1: that you care about it. I do, and so a

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Speaker 1: lot of this kind of stuff I'm happy to answer.

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Speaker 1: You ask me about behind the scenes stuff all the time,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to answer it. So the first part what

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Speaker 1: goes through my head, I want to respect everyone's time.

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Speaker 1: If I'm sitting in a postgame press conference, here's the

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Speaker 1: first thing I know. When I've been covering the SEC,

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Speaker 1: I have not been on a team's beat. Being on

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Speaker 1: a beat means you're covering that team day to day.

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Speaker 1: I'm regional and national and have been since pretty much

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Speaker 1: throughout the duration of doing this, at the very least regional.

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Speaker 1: So I'm at the biggest game every week. I may

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Speaker 1: be in Jorden Hair Stadium one week, I may be

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Speaker 1: in Knotsville the next week. Well, what I know is

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Speaker 1: there are people in that room and postgame press conference

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Speaker 1: that cover that team every day. I don't step on them.

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Speaker 1: Number one, They're going to ask more informed questions probably

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Speaker 1: than I am. But number two, I respect their time.

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Speaker 1: I want them to be able to get their stuff in.

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Speaker 1: I value them and their time more than my time

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Speaker 1: in that setting. But the second is what makes it's

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Speaker 1: a good question. To me, A good question is one

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Speaker 1: that gets tangible information out of a coach. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'm not really big on the talk about so and

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Speaker 1: so's performance today. That's like I mean, it's just you

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Speaker 1: know what's going to come out of their mouth ninety

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Speaker 1: nine times out of one hundred. Now here's the difference.

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Speaker 1: I'm not writing a post game I'm not writing a

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Speaker 1: gamer as they call it, postgame wrap up column. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to get quotes from a coach, you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't already have the skeletal outline of my postgame

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Speaker 1: rap written and I just need to fill it in

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Speaker 1: with quotes. So I'm in a different world, admittedly than

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Speaker 1: maybe a beat writer is. If I'm going to ask

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Speaker 1: a question, all I'm thinking is you got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of folks and standstill traffic on the interstate, probably two

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Speaker 1: or three miles away from the stadium right now, and

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Speaker 1: they're listening to this postgame interview on the radio. What

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Speaker 1: are they thinking? What did they walk out of this

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Speaker 1: stadium thinking what are they sitting at home listening thinking?

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Speaker 1: Because that's all that we really are there for is

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Speaker 1: to be the conduit between the head coach, the players,

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Speaker 1: the program, and you. I'm not there for me. I

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Speaker 1: certainly am blessed to be there, but there's no purpose

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Speaker 1: for me to be there if you don't exist. And

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Speaker 1: so forget about what I want to know? What do

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Speaker 1: you want to know? What If I did a show

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Speaker 1: that was nothing but what I'm interested in and didn't

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Speaker 1: concern you at all, I wouldn't have a show very long. Well,

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Speaker 1: by the same token, if I'm in a press conference

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Speaker 1: and I know thirty five percent of you are wondering

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Speaker 1: the same thing, why would I ask something different that

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Speaker 1: no one cares about. So that's kind of the way

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking now. As for how different an interview in

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Speaker 1: a halftime or postgame setting is as opposed to maybe

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Speaker 1: an off season world's different. That's like McDonald's versus like

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Speaker 1: Saint Elmo's Steakhouse in Indianapolis, totally different. Obviously, you much

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Speaker 1: prefer the off season long form kind of layout where

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Speaker 1: you have some time and you can get some stories

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Speaker 1: out of people. I think That's a good place to

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Speaker 1: wrap things up this week, don't you again. I thank

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Speaker 1: you guys so much for these five star reviews. If

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Speaker 1: The best way to get your question answered on this

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Speaker 1: podcast is to submit a question in the written review portion.

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Speaker 1: You can also hit me up Josh paid seven zero

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Speaker 1: six at gmail dot com, follow me on Twitter at Latekickjosh.

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Speaker 1: We're active on there. I talk to you guys on

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Speaker 1: there all week and last but certainly not least, our

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Speaker 1: flagship show for the Late kickbrand at least is Latekick Live.

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Speaker 1: It is on the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: It is again free. I ask that you subscribe there.

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Speaker 1: We do it live on Thursday nights and Sunday nights

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Speaker 1: at eight eastern seven Central, and I hope to see

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Speaker 1: you there until next week. This has been really fun.

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Speaker 1: I've got to go find a new voice to use tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Until then, appreciate you guys listening. Have a great rest

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Speaker 1: of your week. God bless