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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Fantasy Flexed Podcast. I am your host,

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Speaker 2: Chris Raybon, and this is our AFC East edition. I

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Speaker 2: right now. But my dude, Sean Kerner, Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Any exciting plans for Fourth of July Weekay?

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Speaker 1: Sean.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Buffalo Bills. How are you approaching

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen this year? I know he's I think he's

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Speaker 2: rightfully the QB one, But does he fit into your

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Speaker 1: Yeah? That's I mean, that's a good question because I

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Speaker 1: typically don't like to be, you know, the first person

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Speaker 1: the exception because I mean, he's finished TB one overall

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Speaker 1: each of the past two seasons, you know, barring injury,

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Speaker 1: he's the heavy favorite to do that again this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's not to love about him? They're a

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Speaker 1: I mean he's got every thing going on. The situation

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Speaker 1: the same offense. So that's that's good. He's gonna have

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Speaker 1: continuity there. He loses Cole Beasley and Emmanuel Sanders, but

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Speaker 1: So I think you could argue that that's kind of

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Speaker 1: an upgrade and in that aspect. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's QB one in. It's here all by himself, So

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Speaker 1: I think if they're ever a time to draft QB first,

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Speaker 1: it would be this year with Josh Allen. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think he's absolutely in a tier by himself, not

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Speaker 2: you know, Mahomes lost Tyreek k Yeah, you know Brady's

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Speaker 1: So I do like Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: I think he's more of a best ball play for me,

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Speaker 2: just because you know, kind of mixing up the exposures

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Speaker 2: But yeah, nothing to really complain about with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, nothing really to complain about.

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Speaker 2: He's the unquestioned number one receiver of the you know,

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Speaker 3: But any thoughts on Diggs this year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think he's where he needs to be

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Speaker 3: My question to you is, you know.

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Speaker 2: Last year, I think, you know, he never really got

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Speaker 3: What are you projecting him in terms of routes run

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Speaker 1: You know, Gabe Davis was running a route around eighty

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Speaker 1: But I think serving that wide receiver three range sounds fair.

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Speaker 1: Where do you have him in terms of routes? Frount

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right at eighty five and he's my wide

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Speaker 3: Now I'm still going to draft him. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Anytime you're looking at little guys in this range, I think,

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Speaker 2: the team's number one target, which invests Diggs goes down,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he will be, but you still have

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Speaker 1: How about touchdowns? How many touchdowns are you projecting? Because

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I have six and a half, which I

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Speaker 1: surprised if he scores double digit touchdowns this year though, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean he has certainly has that upside.

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Speaker 2: My favorite sleeper on this team, well, I have two,

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Speaker 2: four and he's going as the wide receiver eighty one.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's not sexy, but I do think

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Speaker 1: Have in his offense. Oh, I agree, and yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's essentially replacing Cole Beasley, right, So if if Cole

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Speaker 1: You know, he may conced some work to Isaiah McKenzie

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Speaker 2: And he's gonna be motivated because he signed a one

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I like Crowder a lot. I just think he's.

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Speaker 2: Going like a bunch of rounds too late. McKenzie, any

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Speaker 1: be more interested in Shakir the rookie White. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these aren't guys we're drafting, you know, in late June necessarily,

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Speaker 1: McKenzie's always going to be limited. He's, like you said,

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Speaker 2: Dawshin Knox this year, He's going as the tight end

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Speaker 2: Knocks around seventy five percent routes run pretty game yet

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Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna be much of a factor. I

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Speaker 3: So I don't Yeah, I just can't see him being

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Speaker 1: Changes quick, yeah, exactly. And he really hasn't been the

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a very common injury to really, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Howard b would be an intriguing tight end too.

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Speaker 1: So he has that, but he's just more going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's obviously you know, you don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Completely ignore it, but like I can't really fade Knocks

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Speaker 2: you're just looking for guys with touchdown upside, and I think,

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Speaker 2: So it's not really much you could do. You know,

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Speaker 2: I need that in all right, let's go to running back.

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Speaker 1: Oh did you want to recap the Sleepers and bust

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Speaker 1: real quick? No, I was gonna go running back.

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Speaker 3: We didn't touch the ring.

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Speaker 1: Oh we didn't even talk you know what this this year?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, one of my favorite players, one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite running backs to draft now I know, is on

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Speaker 2: the Bills. But let's start with the other guy, Singletary.

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Speaker 2: Devin Singletary was pretty profitable for us. I feel like

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Speaker 2: So I don't really I'm not up or down in him.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll probably beat the eleven point one carries

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Speaker 2: where I think Cook is gonna James Cook, the rookie

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Speaker 2: Singletary has that like three down upside the way he

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Speaker 1: With the drafting of Cook. Yeah, I mean, so let's

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Speaker 1: Muss and that breed it completely. So Singletary was the

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Speaker 1: you know that's great because he was getting every touch.

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned Singletary's you know, his targets per oute run.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Josh Allen doesn't really like checking down running

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Speaker 2: like Frank Gore, Devin Singletary, Zach Moss. Is that really

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Speaker 1: And we saw what he could do with a good workload.

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Speaker 3: That's just not the type of player he is.

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Speaker 2: So that is why I do like James Cook, and

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Speaker 2: the actual real reason I like James could be on

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Speaker 2: the fact that I think he's a talented player, went

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Speaker 2: in round two of the draft, has you know, ninety

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Speaker 1: That's I like him for all those reasons.

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Speaker 2: But again, I think when you're projecting these guys, you

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Speaker 2: And remember what happened with the Bills in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Reknick And then that's why they went and targeted running

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Speaker 2: that all equated to nine and a half touches per game.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I like James Cook. Yeah, he's my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like again going back to machistic. Remember,

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Speaker 2: you know, Gibson went down a few games. McKissick wasn't

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Speaker 1: That's mid range RB two status. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: to give like twenty touches like Alexander Madison, so Cook

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think this guy's just too talented.

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Speaker 1: winning upside. I know he's just you know, the second

432
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: option in the passing game, but we've seen this in

433
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: the past with you know, like Ridley and Julio Jones

434
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: or Antonio Brown and Juju Smith Schuster. I think we

435
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: have that potential here where we could have two guys

436
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: inside the top ten in our weekly projection. So I

437
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 1: think gave Davis is considering he has that upside. I

438
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: still think he's a sleeper pick at wide receiver thirty three.

439
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my guy. I can't I can't begad

440
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: that I'll go sir this year. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

441
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: So if Frenny listeners that don't know Sean and I

442
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: were watching the game, the Chiefs game at my crib,

443
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: Chiefs Bills, and I thought we had we had big

444
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: money on the Bills, so I thought we won our bet.

445
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 3: After gave Davis scores his bazillion.

446
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 2: Touchdown, ripped my shirt off, which happened to say sh

447
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: money on it, and uh so that shirt is gone,

448
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: and then in the game and the game was gone too,

449
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 2: So it was just a fiasco. But yeah, it's my dude,

450
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 2: gave David love him. Yeah, I'm going crowded though. I

451
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: just think again, he's going outside the top eighty and

452
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: he's my wide receiver fifty four. I think he gets

453
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: the bees we roll and I don't even have him

454
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 2: getting targeted on a per route basis as much as Beesley,

455
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: and he still lands in the in the mid fifties

456
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: for me in this offense. So like Jameson Crowder and

457
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: Cook as well, I think there's an honorable mention. Yeah,

458
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: just because he's a talented guy in a good offense

459
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: who's going to catch the passes.

460
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Speaker 1: What about for busts, it's got to be I mean,

461
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to find a bust in this offense because

462
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 1: it's so good, but it's got to be singletary just

463
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: that I think you're paying up for, you know, the

464
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: end of last season's usage rates. But with Cook there,

465
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: it's to be tough. And we have to remember this

466
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: is Josh Allen's offense through there and on the ground,

467
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: so you know, the running backs already kind of have

468
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: to fight for scraps and when he's you know, got

469
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: competition back there, that makes it even tougher. So I'm

470
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Speaker 1: with you on Cook by the way. So I just

471
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: think that kind of leads into why I think Singletary

472
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Speaker 1: is the bust. Yeah, I mean I don't.

473
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Speaker 2: I don't really have a bust just because I even

474
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Speaker 2: though I'm higher on Cook, I still have Singletary at

475
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: twenty ninth. I just you know, it's it's not a

476
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: sexy pick. It's not really a guy that I'm going

477
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: to be taking too much. But let's go to Miami

478
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 2: and you know the big offseason news. Obviously, they acquired

479
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: Tyreek Cody, also get Cedric Wilson junior. So how do

480
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: you think this all sets up now for to a

481
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: tone of aloe?

482
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is definitely a make or break

483
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: year for his career. I mean they brought in Tyreek Hill,

484
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: Jaylen Waddell is going to be entering year two, so

485
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: he's going to be even better if you could believe it.

486
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: They improved the offensive line, you know, they brought in

487
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: Colin Williams, Tron Armstead. This scheme, you know, under Mike McDaniel,

488
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: is going to be the Kyle Shahan forty nine ers scheme,

489
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: which should help take pressure off the O line. And

490
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: be good for fantasy, you know football, and you know

491
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: things are lined up for two of this season. We

492
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: really haven't seen him from him from him yet, but

493
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: with all the weapons around him, I don't see how

494
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: he can fail necessarily. So QB sixteen seems fair just

495
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: given his upside. But he's far from a slam dunk.

496
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we have to admit it. So I don't

497
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: really like him at sixteen. I think if you're gonna

498
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: take him, you got to do some stacks, right. You

499
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 1: got to stack him with you know, either Hill, Waddle,

500
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: possibly get sicky. You just got to go all in

501
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: in the offense because it does depend on him, you know,

502
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: having a year free breakout.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean I do like him coming out

504
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: of schools just kind of he has that kind of

505
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: it factor. But I don't know, like this could go

506
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 2: south too, Like if Tyreek Hill was chirping about Mahomes

507
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: and he wasn't used enough in that offense. It's like,

508
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if he's running opening and to it doesn't

509
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: hit him DP. I mean I could I could see,

510
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 2: I could see some problems, but you know what I

511
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: the thing is, you're not drafting him as your QB

512
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: one anyway, and so he's a guy I'm probably just

513
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: leaving on the waiver wire because he starts the year

514
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: New England, which you know Belichick defense, I know, I

515
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: know they lost J. C. Jackson, but still not ideal

516
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: for a streamer, and then they go to Baltimore and

517
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: then they play the Bills. So those are three tough defenses,

518
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: three the better defenses in the AFC. So I don't

519
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: really think you're gonna start the year with much use

520
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: for him because you're not gonna trust him against the

521
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: Patriots in Week one, and then you know, even if

522
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 2: he had if he does have a big game, are

523
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: you going to go back and trust.

524
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: Him against Baltimore? Like? Probably not.

525
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 2: So, you know, it's it's one of those things where, uh,

526
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: you know, in a two QB league final, you take

527
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: a chance on the improved weapons, you know, if you

528
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: can get them below ADP, But in a regular re

529
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: draft leak, I don't really see a point in drafting them. Uh, Tyreek,

530
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: he's going as the wide receiver eight. How do you

531
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: think his what do you think happens with his numbers

532
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: going from Mahomes to Tua.

533
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with Tyreek. Going from

534
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: mahomes Atua is a downgrade, a clear downgrade. But he's

535
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: still an elite talent. So I think wide receiver eight

536
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: sounds fair for him. But he's going to be more

537
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: inconsistent in this offense. You know, I don't think two

538
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: is going to be able to support Hill, Waddle and

539
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: Gaseki every single week. So I think it's gonna be

540
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: sort of musical chairs where you get, you know, two

541
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: of these guys that have a fancy, relevant game and

542
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: the other a dud. So yeah, I think Hill's going

543
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: to have a lower floor than he's seen, you know,

544
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: the past few seasons. But certainly, you know, in best

545
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: ball formats, he's going to have his big games. But

546
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: this is absolutely a downgrade. But when you're taking Tyreek,

547
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: you're just betting on his elite talent. So I think

548
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver eight is fair. That's exact where I haven't

549
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: projected right now. How many touchdowns do you have them? Oh,

550
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: that's a great question, rushing and receiving. I'm at half

551
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: a touchdown rushing and eight receiving touchdowns, so eight and

552
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: a half okay, So I have him seven point six.

553
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: I have seven receiving an end point six rushing, so

554
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: seven was his He did seven twice over the last

555
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: five years, in twenty seventeen and twenty nineteen, so that's

556
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: kind of his been his floor. But I think that's

557
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: fair given the downgrading quarterback. But somewhere between seven and eight,

558
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: where do you have him ranked?

559
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: Based on that?

560
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: So I have a wide receiver ten right now, But

561
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: that's because I'm like very high on Mike Evans. I

562
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: have Evan ahead of him, and I don't have a J.

563
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: Brown ahead of him though, so I know I've seen,

564
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: you know, a J. Brown kind of creeping up in there.

565
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: I just think the past find is a little too low.

566
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's a top ten guy.

567
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 2: You take him anywhere and at you know, six to

568
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: ten range. I don't think you're gonna lose your league,

569
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: but you know it's Tyreek Kill Like, you're not going

570
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: to lose your league.

571
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 3: Drafted Tyreek Kill Waddle though.

572
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: I mean this is I struggle with him because, like,

573
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: I feel like his ADP didn't really change after Tyreek

574
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: went to the Dobinson Listen. I know it's good for

575
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: like the offense being able to move the ball and

576
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 2: get more first downs, YadA, YadA, YadA. But like, am

577
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: I just going crazy here? Or is like, is Tyreek

578
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: He's gonna cut into Wattles production more than just like

579
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: for to drive to go to wide receiver thirteen, Like

580
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: I feel like that's still.

581
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is. It is too high, which is

582
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: a shame because I love investing in really good wide

583
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: receivers in year two, year three, So it's it's tough

584
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: to kind of fade him. But that's that's horder what

585
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing, because we have to remember last year he

586
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: benefited from Will Fuller and DeVante Parker missing you know,

587
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: much of the season, so you know, his his target

588
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: shat is massive, and you know Tyrek, Tyrek's presidence will

589
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: only hinder that. So yeah, his his target rate's going

590
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: to be down. His touchdown rates probably down as well.

591
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: So I think just why we're wide receiver thirteen is

592
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: too close to his ceiling in my opinion, So I'd

593
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: be more comfortable if he was sort of in the

594
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: wide receiver fifteen seventeen range. That would be a fun

595
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: range to take him. But yeah, I'm I'm probably out

596
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: at thirteen, which is you know, it sucks because I

597
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: think he's one of the more talented, you know, younger

598
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: receivers in the game. So I just think with Tyrek,

599
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, coming in, I don't think the ADP really

600
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: you know, affected that in enough.

601
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where you know, kind of modeling it

602
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: by using routes and targets per route really kind of

603
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: shines through and is illuminating. Because last year Wattle his

604
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: targets per route were twenty three point eight percent, which

605
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: is very very good. But let's look at the players

606
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: you already mentioned who were running routes alongside him. At

607
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver, Davonte Parker was twenty point eight percent, Albert

608
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Wilson was sixteen point eight percent, and Mac Collins who

609
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: was twelve point eight percent. So now you have Tyreek Hills,

610
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: who's twenty six point five percent. So like, not only

611
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: is he a massive step up from anyone else that

612
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: was running around alongside Wattle, but he's even a couple

613
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: of points above Wattle. He was eighth in the league

614
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty two receivers that had at

615
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: least one hundred routes around, So like this is it

616
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: just has to knock him down, Like just no, the

617
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: mass just doesn't work out. Even if you give Wattle

618
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: that you know, like leave him at this, like you know,

619
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: you don't knock.

620
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: Down his baseline rate.

621
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's the math has.

622
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: To knock it down when you're competing with a guy

623
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: that's higher than you and you bump from you know,

624
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: number one to number two in the total post in

625
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: the pecking order. So I have a wide receiver twenty three.

626
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: I think that's I think he's he's.

627
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: A low and wide receiver. Probably many shares.

628
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, any, honey, I don't think I'm getting.

629
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Speaker 1: Any Yeah, you were This might segue into our next guy,

630
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: but you were talking about Terry have an impact and

631
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned their their number three receiver was typically you know,

632
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Albert Wilson or MATC. Hollins. But their third receiver is

633
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: going to be Cedric Wilson now, so that he has

634
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: an upgrade at wide receiver three as well.

635
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wilson is about eighteen percent targets per rout run

636
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: and I was in the Dallas offense where it's not

637
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: easy to get target exactly. Yeah, it's just every it's

638
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: just a downgrade around him in terms of the guys he's.

639
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: Going to be competing with for for Wato.

640
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I you know, I love wide receiver entering

641
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: year two. I think two is a new year three

642
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: in terms of guys breaking out. But there's just really

643
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: no way for him to beat really beat that ADP

644
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: at wide receiver thirteen. So you know, Wilson, he's going

645
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: eighty fifth at wide receiver. I don't really think you

646
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: need to touch him unless you're in this super deep

647
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: league then.

648
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: I mean knock yourself out.

649
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: But what about Gasiki He's going as a tight end

650
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: number twelve this year?

651
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I misspoke because Gasiki's essentially their third

652
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver, right, I mean he he rarely lines up

653
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: as tight end. Now he's basically their slot receiver. So

654
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: he's a guy where again, this kind of reminds me

655
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: of Wattle, where you know, he's entering his age twenty

656
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: sixth season. He's an elite talent. I mean, he's smack

657
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: dab in the middle of his prime, but his upside

658
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: is capped by Tyreek there by Wattle entering year two. So,

659
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, it's just one of these guys

660
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: every week is going to have to have a dud.

661
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't see how all three of them can be

662
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: putting up monster numbers every single week. So now, to

663
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: be fair, you know, once you get to this range

664
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: at tight end, you know, low end, tight end one,

665
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: you're expecting duds. So I think Kaseki sounds about right

666
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: at about tight end twelve, but he's probably gonna need

667
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: to make a massive leap to really, you know, clear

668
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: this value at tight end twelve. So love the talent.

669
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: This situation is going to be murky week to week.

670
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: But I think at tight end twelve he's priced about right.

671
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him tight end fourteen, So I'm actually

672
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit overvalued.

673
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.

674
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: He ran the fourth most routes among tight ends last year, right,

675
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: and he still finishes the tight end eleven.

676
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: And now you're adding another like.

677
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Mid you know, mid twenty in terms of percent in

678
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: terms of targets per out run wide receiver in Tyreek Koll.

679
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: So you have Tyreek Hill who's at twenty seven percent,

680
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: you have Watto at twenty four percent. It just doesn't

681
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: weave much space for Kasicki to even match his nineteen

682
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: point seven percent targets per route run from a year ago,

683
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: so I not down to nineteen, so it's not even

684
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: a massive downgrade, but yeah, he's still coming in below

685
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: below his ADP for me, what do you think of

686
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: Edmund's going there to you know, coming over from Arizona.

687
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: He's the RB thirty five and ADP. Yeah, so, I

688
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: mean this backfield's really murky. Like I said earlier, you know,

689
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: Mike Mike McDaniel's bringing over the Kyle Shanahan forty and

690
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: iron scheme, which is great for fantasy running backs, but

691
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: also you know, it can be pretty volatile. I think

692
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: all three of these backs have different skill sets, and

693
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: Edmunds is the highest paid, like that that he's going

694
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: to be the week one starter. He'll probably have a

695
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: pretty long leash, but still like he's sort of a

696
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: frozen pond kind of running back where you know, anything

697
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: can happen after week one. You know, I think he's

698
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: going late enough at RB thirty five where he's definitely

699
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: worth the risk. This is where you kind of have

700
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, Tony Pollard, Alexander Madison kind of going and

701
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: Edmunds doesn't really need an injury to be the workhorse

702
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: back all season. So I kind of like him at ADP,

703
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: but he does have a pretty low floor. But I

704
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: just think where he's going, this is probably the area

705
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to take him because there is, like I said,

706
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of upside in this scheme. So I

707
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: think he could be a really good fet. Yeah, he's

708
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a good fit. Yeah.

709
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned that, the contract, I think that is

710
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: at least somewhat illuminating because teams aren't paying running backs

711
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: these days. So for McDaniel to kind of go out

712
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: and he because they could have just assembled a backfield

713
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 2: on the cheap, I mean they could have just gone

714
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: with you know, they signed Michelle, They could have still

715
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: brought in Moster on the cheap anyway, and maybe you

716
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: just give Myles Gaskin another chance. You know, he was

717
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: he proved that he could play as a starter, and

718
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: he ran enough zone you know zone scheme that last

719
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: year that I think you could have just done that.

720
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: So for them to bring in Edmonds and pay him

721
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: like they did, I think that is significant.

722
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: So I am somewhat intrigued by him.

723
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: I have him a few spots higher than where he's

724
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: going to have him at RB thirty two in my rankings.

725
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: He's going as the RB thirty five. I don't think

726
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: this back food is quite as murky. I think it's

727
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: more murky behind Edmunds, like cuz for Heim moster, he's

728
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 2: going to RB forty five. That's got to be a joke, right,

729
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 2: that's that's a joke.

730
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's a joke later on in the pod.

731
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, just given only the only positive

732
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: thing you could say really is he's already familiar with

733
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: the scheme, right, That's about it. But he's thirty years

734
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: old now and he's injury prone. So yeah, while it's

735
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: kind of murky now while most are it's healthy. I

736
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: guess once he's you know, on the pup list or

737
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: the IR, that'll help clear things up a bit. But

738
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean he has that home run hitting upside. But

739
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: again he's on the wrong side of thirty, so yeah,

740
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm not the one taking him at RB forty five.

741
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, that his ADP is sort of a joke

742
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: right now.

743
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I have him fifty eight and that's being

744
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 3: like probably generous.

745
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: Because that's that's me kind of splitting.

746
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: Him in Michelle's workload.

747
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: But like you said, his dude is thirty and he's

748
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: missed thirty five of his thirty six excuse not thirty five.

749
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: He's missed thirty six of his last eighty one games

750
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 2: over the past five years. And Michelle is twenty seventy

751
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: three years younger. He's probably a better back.

752
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: At this point.

753
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it.

754
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: I think I think it's like he's dolphin ADP's It's

755
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: like they haven't adjusted to anything that's happened in the

756
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: off season. It's like, okay, at the beginning of the

757
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: off season, Yeah, they had no Tyree gill Awada, sure

758
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: wide receiver thirteen.

759
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: Okay, Miami, you know they brought in most.

760
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: There and they didn't have Sony Michelle Like, okay, fine,

761
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: like it is.

762
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get it.

763
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: Michelle. He's already fifty four. Probably the better value. I

764
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: mean for me, I have him splitting the work evenly,

765
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: and that might even be generous, being generous to most.

766
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the cheapest back, so he probably has the

767
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: most value, I guess. But you know, like I can

768
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: see him being used in the short yardage situation, so

769
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: he might be the goallying back like that. That would

770
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: hurt Edmunds value. Bet If Michelle is the goal line back.

771
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: But he at the end of the day, he does

772
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: need probably you know, Edmonds go down to really have

773
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: weekly value. But again he's he's pretty cheap for a

774
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: backup running back. So at fifty four, I mean, I'm

775
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: not running to get him there, but in certain drafts,

776
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: in certain situations, he certainly makes sense.

777
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I have him below ADP too.

778
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: I have him RB sixty for now.

779
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: But you know, if we start getting worried that, you know,

780
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: maybe most is going to go back to more of

781
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 2: a special teams row or whatever or not, and and

782
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: Michelle kind of inches ahead, I'll not I'll bump them

783
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: up a little bit and he'll kind.

784
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: Of end up at RB fifty four. But yeah, really

785
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: we're just.

786
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: We're drafting these Dolphins. RB two and three's a little

787
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: bit too, h I know. I know it's the Shanahan's

788
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: scheme and all that, so in some ways it makes sense.

789
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: But for all that, we might as well just draft

790
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: Gasking again, like you're going to do all that.

791
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: If we're doing the Shanahan Yeah, like at least it's act. Yeah,

792
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: would absolutely be the minus three hundred favorite we're talking

793
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: about the Niners. Yeah, it's caasking all the way, or.

794
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: Maybe Savon Ahmed was yeah, well he's a former Shanahan

795
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: guy or something.

796
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah or yeah, no, ties all these Gaskin coming off

797
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: the year where he thought he'd be the main bat

798
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: and he busted. This year, we're not talking about him

799
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: like that would be the Shanahan forty nine ers.

800
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: Oh wait, No, it's just it's alec Ingold.

801
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: He's going to be the use check. He's going to

802
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: get all their down work. Yeah, but we don't even draft,

803
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: like we don't even check. But yeah, I could see

804
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: that happening.

805
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: Sure, Oh man, okay, uh sleepers on a fleet run

806
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: it off un so you got.

807
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: And it's it's tough. I think this whole offense is

808
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: probably over valued. So I'm going to go with my

809
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: Tua stacks. So not just drafting naked to it. I

810
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: think you need to stack him because all these players

811
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: need to to have your three leap to actually hit.

812
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: So I think you'll want to make it to a stack.

813
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: So Tua with you know, Tyree kirk Hill or Waddle

814
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: and Gasiki something like that, a couple of teams where

815
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: you sort of go all in and not half asked

816
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: it I think that's the only way you can kind

817
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: of label a sleeper in this offense, because I think

818
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of like ADP or like way too expensive.

819
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go with Edmonds just because he's the only

820
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: guy would really that I have ranked above ADP. I

821
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: have him RB thirty two. He's going RB thirty five,

822
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: So I'll go with him.

823
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: What about Bush, I think we're on the same page

824
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: on this, right, It's got to be Waddle, which is

825
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: unfortunate because, i mean, heading in the year two, I

826
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: was all excited, you know, they got McDaniel coming over,

827
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: and then they add Terry Kill. So if you're not

828
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: factoring in, you're doing it wrong. That is a huge

829
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: hit to his his target share. And unfortunately, you know

830
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: he's more of a lower end wide receiver too now

831
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: because of it.

832
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean I'll add moster it to that mix,

833
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: just because I just think, oh, well he should not be.

834
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: Going rbsy five. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, it's just but yeah, wow.

835
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean ten spots you know, in my rankings, ten

836
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: spots that point in the draft is massive, you know,

837
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: in terms of over undervalued, because I mean, you could

838
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: get a guy like Keenan Allen like a couple of

839
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: spots ahead of Waddle, which I think is you know,

840
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: a completely different situation, number one wide receiver versus number two.

841
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, Waddle has some bust potential unfortunately.

842
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Patriots.

843
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: Any thoughts before we get into the players, just on

844
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, are you gonna see kind of a like

845
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: is this gonna be a clown show with Joe Jones

846
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: and Matt Patricia's or because Mac Jones you know, I

847
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: thought he was the best rookie quarterback last year. Is

848
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: Mac Jones just gonna make it all move and just

849
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: is it just gonna be Mac Jones essentially calling the

850
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: plays this year?

851
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great, right because he was arguably

852
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: the best rookie quarterback last year, but they held him

853
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: back probably too much in my opinion. Last year. I

854
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: remember you and I anytime they were favored by like

855
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: three or more points, we were just downgrade Mac Jones

856
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: in the passing offense completely, and they were just gonna

857
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: feed Damien Harris. So hopefully, you know, they they take

858
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: off the training wheels this year. You know, they brought

859
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: in DeVante Parker. They you know, they drafted Thornton, who's

860
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: a deep threat. So I think there's signs there that

861
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: they do intend to let mac Jones let it rip

862
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: a bit more this year. So you know, ADB twenty one,

863
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't offer any rushing up side, so it's it's

864
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: really hard to like him, but certainly in two QB

865
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: superplexed formats, I think he has a really high flour

866
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: and who knows, they could let him let it rip

867
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: this year and he could surprise us. But last year

868
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: it was the the offense and the coaching staff sort

869
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: of holding him back. So we'll see what he does

870
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: this year.

871
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, again, for anyone that hasn't been

872
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: kind of caught up on the off season news, Josh McDaniel,

873
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: a longtime coordinator for the Patriots, goes to the Raiders

874
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: to become the head coach. So now they bring in

875
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: Joe Judge and they bring in Matt Patricia former you know,

876
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: former coaches who flamed out and coaching positions, and those

877
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: two are kind of running the offense, and we still

878
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: don't know who's the play call is.

879
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: Going to be.

880
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: Belichick hasn't decided yet. He's actually been more involved in

881
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: the offense as well, So there are a lot of

882
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: question marks as to who's going to be running it.

883
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: But I do like Mac Jones.

884
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think he can beat this

885
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: quarterback twenty one ADP.

886
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's not hard to beat it.

887
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: He can be I think he can be one of

888
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: the better, like kind of tier two pocket paths.

889
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: You know.

890
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: So I am somewhat intrigued. What do you think of

891
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: the Parker edition? Uh, it's great for mac Jones. I

892
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: don't know if it's great for Parker necessarily. I mean,

893
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: they just have too many targets to go around, right,

894
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Jacoby Myers will still be probably you know,

895
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: dominating sort of the target share when he's on the field.

896
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne is sneaky. You know, they still have Hunter Henry.

897
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: So it's not it's not great, but you know, he's

898
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver fifty four and ADP. He's got to be

899
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 2: the cheapest wide receiver one on any offense, right, he's

900
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: got to be, so he has that going from at least,

901
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: so I do kind of like him where he's going.

902
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: I think your cooked Myers is the wide receiver one.

903
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: I know, he's the slot wide receiver. But I think,

904
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: like you kind of alluded to it, people dominate target

905
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: sher when he's on the field. His targets per route

906
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: run last year was twenty three percent. Parkers is twenty one.

907
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: So you know, even if they're both kind of running

908
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: routes together, which they will be, I would expect Myers

909
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: to still have the edge. So I like the value

910
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: on Myers. He's going as a wide receiver sixty two.

911
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: I actually have him at wide receiver forty seven. And

912
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: that's with giving him a bump down in in routes

913
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: run per dropback, you know, per game. I bumped Hi

914
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: down about eighty percent, you know, because there's just a

915
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty as to how exactly the receiving snaps

916
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: are going to be distributed. So but yeah, I think

917
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: he's a value, especially in PPR full PPR and even

918
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 2: half PPR. And I think he finally got the monkey

919
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: off his back with the touchdown. So seriously, Yeah, So

920
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: I think you're right when it comes to Myers. I

921
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: think really either Parker or Myers, you can make case

922
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: is going to be the top receiver. So they're both

923
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: sort of you know, offering value in the wide receiver

924
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: fifty five wide receiver sixty range. Unfortunately, for Myers, I

925
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: don't think we could project them for more than you know,

926
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: a couple touchdowns, so his upside is cap But either way,

927
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: just investing in either one of these guys is sort

928
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: of a way to invest in mac Jones having a

929
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: year or two leaps. So certainly I think these guys

930
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: are cheaper, you know, high higher floor options later.

931
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: In the draft.

932
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like Parker's park Like I have Parker

933
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: and Myers like just inside the top fifty, so oh nice, Yeah,

934
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: I mean And also another thing with New England. Remember

935
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: because McDaniel's leaves they took, he took the full back

936
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: with him, like he took Yakov Johnson to the Raiders.

937
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: But what I mean by that is like they took

938
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: the full back with.

939
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: Them, Like they're not going to have a fullback this year,

940
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: Like they're going to be a little bit more wide

941
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 2: open as an offense. So I do think these Patriots

942
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: receivers are going to be and I agree, I think

943
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: Parker and and Meyers are going to be the top two.

944
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: You know, Born I like him a lot.

945
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: He's running ahead of Agalar and Thornton in camp, so

946
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: it looks like he'll be the number three guy. But

947
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: I do think there's some sneaky value here for these

948
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: Patriots receivers, and you draft him kind of in that,

949
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: Like you said that wide receiver fifty five to sixty range,

950
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: I think when by weeks start hitting, I think you'll

951
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 2: have a decent replacement for whoever you need to kind

952
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: of sit. So I do think these guys offer value. Again,

953
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: nothing sexy, but the target's got to go somewhere. And

954
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: this is without even counting that Mac Jones may very

955
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: well take a year or two lead. Okay, Hunter Henry,

956
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 2: he's going to tight end seventeen. I don't actually mind

957
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: him there at all.

958
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't either, which is weird because I

959
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: mean he's a touchdown dependent tight end, let's face it,

960
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: but he's going to score touchdowns. He tied to the

961
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: second most end zone targets last year with ten, and

962
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: it was kind kind of mind blowing how much he

963
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: dominated the tight end snaps after they had, you know,

964
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: the massive signing with John new Smith and Hunter Henry.

965
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Hunter Henry was the main tight end. So yeah,

966
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: I like him at Titan seventeen. You're gonna be drafting

967
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: him in Best Ball, so you don't really care or

968
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: you don't need to predict when he's gonna score his touchdowns,

969
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: but he's going to have those weeks. So yeah, I

970
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: like him at tight end seventeen, specifically for Best Ball.

971
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Henry, I mean he was a tight end eight

972
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: overall last year and half PPR tenth in points per game,

973
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: and you know he's going as the number seventeen. And

974
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: I do think John who could see some more routes,

975
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: but not necessarily at Henry's expense, just at the expense

976
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: of the fullback, So who's no longer there? So yeah,

977
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: like Henry, great best ball guy. As you said, what

978
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: do you what about Damia Harris at running back? I'm

979
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: having a hard time, Like I love to touchdown upside upside.

980
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 2: They are kind of switching schemes a little bit, but

981
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: it's still hard for me to kind of get behind him.

982
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: Is RB twenty four? I have him twenty ninth, But

983
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: what do you think?

984
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't love him at the current ADP.

985
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: He benefited a ton from the Pats, you know, leaning

986
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: on the run and trying to limit Mac Jones last year.

987
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: So in theory, if they're gonna let mac let it

988
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: rip this year, that's gonna be sort of at the

989
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: expensive Harris and the running back dut chart was pretty

990
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: thin last year once James White went down. I know

991
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: they have different skill sets, but either way that that

992
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: sort of helped Harris out a bit last year. So

993
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: considering you know, AJ Dillon's going around this range and

994
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: they sort of have a similar role, but aj Dillon

995
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: has legit RB one upside if Aaron Jones were to

996
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: go down, like give me aj Dillon every time sort

997
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: of in this range. So yeah, Harris just he doesn't

998
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: offer enough upside in this range, and I think he

999
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: has a lower floor than people realize.

1000
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, we don't know if White's even

1001
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: going to be back, but if he does, this is

1002
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: another plication. But I also think, I mean, Stevenson's kind

1003
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: of a threat as well.

1004
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,479
Speaker 3: You know, he's going to Harby thirty seven.

1005
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: I think that's a better value because at times those

1006
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: guys are kind of splitting reps fairly evenly. I do

1007
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: think Harris is a little bit better, but you know,

1008
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: we could see Stevenson kind of get more involved just

1009
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: like Harris. Did you know this with the Patriots kind

1010
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: of do they kind of you know, develop guys and

1011
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: then they phase out the next guy and then repeats.

1012
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like Stevenson better at thirty seven than

1013
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: Harris at twenty four. Uh, okay, sleepers and bus So

1014
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: you got well for the sleeper.

1015
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: I mean once James White comes back, and it's possible

1016
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: he's ready by week one, but I think he's a sleeper,

1017
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: especially where he's going at ADP. I mean you can

1018
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: get him for free at the end of the draft,

1019
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: but just to have at the end of your bench.

1020
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: More of a high floor guy. In PPR formats, I

1021
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: mean he benefits from having Mac Jones under center. Last year.

1022
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: In the only two games James are is healthy, he

1023
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: caught six balls in each game. So I think ad

1024
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: him as a late late rounds stash for when he's healthy.

1025
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: In PPR formats, I think he's one of my favorite

1026
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: sleepers in that regard on this team.

1027
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I did not chect you to say James why,

1028
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: I like, I could be wrong, but in my mind,

1029
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: he's cooked, like he's just he's cut, he's cooked. Well,

1030
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: he's coming back from a hip injury. He's old, like

1031
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: they got JJ Taylor chomping at the bit.

1032
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a thirty year old receiving back. I mean,

1033
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to do too much and we didn't

1034
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: really get to dive in him, so that might be

1035
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: why it came out of left field. But his ADP

1036
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: is like running back one hundred and fifty or something

1037
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: crazy like that. So I'm saying he's literally free, and

1038
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: when he is healthy, I would not be shocked if

1039
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: he provides that, you know, RB forty type of value

1040
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: in PPR.

1041
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go Myers Myers and Henry kind of. I

1042
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: mean I got Myers inside the top fifty he's going

1043
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: sixty two, and then I got Henry tight in twelve

1044
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: and he's going seventeen. So I think both of those

1045
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: guys qualify that they could give you value, a step up,

1046
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: a tear up from what they're doing.

1047
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: And then what about buss.

1048
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: Uh, it's got to be Damien Harris, just just like

1049
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: I said. You know, last year he banked on mac

1050
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: Jones being limited, so this year should be more pass

1051
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: heavy offense. Like you said, Stevenson is a fray. I

1052
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: think Stevenson's legit. It would not surprise me one bit

1053
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: if at some point he does leap frog Harris at

1054
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: some point, just considering Harris is limited sort of you know,

1055
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: the workhorse back in the short yard situations. You know,

1056
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: Stevenson is a serious threat to his value, So he's

1057
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: sort of Harris is definitely in that frozen pond tier

1058
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion. I'm probably fading him most drafts at

1059
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: adp RB twenty eight. Yeah, he's he's twenty four in

1060
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: a twenty four are you kidding?

1061
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fantasy pros that half PPR Yeah yeah, no, yeah,

1062
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: I have him twenty nights. So it's like if I can,

1063
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: if he drops, fine, because I like the town, I

1064
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: think he's a talented guy, I think the whole line

1065
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: is solid, and I do still think he has a

1066
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: touchdown upside. But twenty four is just I can get

1067
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: a receiver in that range. So it's just doesn't really

1068
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: fit in to the draft plan for me. Was finished

1069
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: off with the Jets. Zack Wilson put on thirteen pounds

1070
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: of muscle quote unquote, because you can't really do that

1071
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: in an off season, but sure, we'll.

1072
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: Go with it.

1073
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: Kenny Kenny jump thirteen spots in ranking is the question.

1074
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has the talent for sure, but he had

1075
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: one of the most disappointing rookie seasons last year. This

1076
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: scheme does seem to be fantasy friendly. They had two

1077
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year have three hundred plus yard passing games.

1078
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: It was Mike White and Josh Johnson. Even Joe Flacco

1079
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: threw for two hundred and ninety one yards in his start,

1080
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: but the rest of the time was Zach will center

1081
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: center and it wasn't as fantasy friendly. Specific I was

1082
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: very disappointed in his lack of rushing up set last year.

1083
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: He didn't top twenty yards on the ground until I

1084
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: think Week fourteen, I think it was, and then he

1085
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: had three games of twenty plus rushing yards. He had

1086
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: that one game where he had ninety one. So I

1087
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: think if he tapped more into that this year, he

1088
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: could be sneaking in this range. And you know, unlike

1089
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: justin fields, they're starting to, you know, build around Zach Wilson.

1090
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 1: And they added Garrett Wilson with their first round pick,

1091
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: so he has a loaded trio at wide receiver, and

1092
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: they added you know, two veteran decent tight end, so

1093
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: he has enough talent around him. I do like the scheme,

1094
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: so I think he does have the upside you like

1095
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: to see in QB twenty four.

1096
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they really all around him. I mean

1097
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: the pieces are there. You got It's like you got

1098
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, Garrett Wilson, Cory Davis, Braxon Barius is a

1099
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: pretty good, you know, kind of number four receiver at

1100
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: that Uzoba and Conklin, Breisse Hall, they add to the

1101
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: running back room and the line is pretty I mean.

1102
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: The Lion is pretty good.

1103
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of talent on that line

1104
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: if Beckton can just get his act together.

1105
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't I don't mind.

1106
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: It, but I think he does offer some upside. I

1107
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: think he has a lot of talent.

1108
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 2: But he's the issue is, you know, four for four

1109
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: does the schedule adjusted Fantasy points And you know, obviously

1110
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna change from year to year, but right now,

1111
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: you know, just based on you know, the numbers from

1112
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: last year, he's he has the most difficult schedule or

1113
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: any quarterback does Zach Wilson, but it's the fifth easiest

1114
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: over the last three weeks of the season. So he's

1115
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: a guy that you know, may you may start slow again,

1116
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: but you might want to pick him up down a

1117
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: stretch last few weeks of the season. He's gonna gonna

1118
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: have a lot of time to gel with all those weapons.

1119
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: I think that's how you want to play it with

1120
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: with Zach Wilson. But he has worth some I think

1121
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: he's wor some best ball shares as well. But in

1122
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: standard redraft he starts out Baltimore and then at Cleveland.

1123
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't really see any streaming. Do you think the

1124
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: thirteen pounds of muscle makes him more or less life

1125
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: big to run the ball?

1126
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: I think I think he will run the ball with

1127
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: I mean he did that down the stretch last year anyway, Right.

1128
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, he didn't have twenty yard rush game

1129
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: until I confirmed a week fourteen, and then he had

1130
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: three of them in the final six games, and we

1131
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: knew he had that rushing up stet. He just wasn't

1132
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: He wasn't running at all. There was a ton of

1133
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: games where he ran maybe once twice. There was like

1134
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: Neil downs. He was getting touchdowns oddly enough, but he

1135
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: just wasn't letting it rip. So it was good to

1136
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: see that, at least towards the end of the season.

1137
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, all four of his touchdowns after he came back

1138
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 2: from injury, and as you mentioned, yeah, all three of

1139
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: his twenty plus yard games after and all three of

1140
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: his four carry games came after yep, the injuries. So yeah,

1141
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: I think that's promising, not a guy of mine taking

1142
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: taking a flyer on that.

1143
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 1: Late Elijah Moore.

1144
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: I really liked the underlying metrics with Elijah Moore twenty

1145
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: four percent target per route run eighteenth of one hundred

1146
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: and fifty two wide receivers with at least one hundred

1147
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: routes run last year. What do you think of More

1148
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: entering year two?

1149
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: Oh? I love. He was one of my favorite rookies

1150
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: heading into the season last year. I mean, unfortunately injuries

1151
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: derailed his season, but weeks eight through thirteen was the

1152
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: stretch where he was healthy and he was the wide

1153
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: receiver two over that six game stretch, So we know

1154
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: his upside. I think, you know, drafting Garrett Wilson in

1155
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: the first round adding a couple of I guess you

1156
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: would call them competent tight ends does hurt Moore's upside,

1157
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, having a Zach Wilson more

1158
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: stack is pretty sneaky and best ball. In my opinion,

1159
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,959
Speaker 1: he probably does need Zach Wilson to have a pretty

1160
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: big year two leap to really hit ADP. So like

1161
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: the idea of stacking them. But like you said, even

1162
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: Brax and Barrios is pretty legit for the wide receiver four,

1163
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: so he might not be as consistent. You know, they

1164
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: might spread around a bit much. But just Moore has

1165
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: a ton of upside, so you know, wide receiver twenty

1166
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: seven is his ADP. It's a bit rich, but I

1167
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: think just based on the talent, I'm definitely gonna have

1168
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: some shares.

1169
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually exactly where I have him.

1170
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I like the player.

1171
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: I won't shy away from him.

1172
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: There. I haven't a wide receiver twenty eighth. Okay, one

1173
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: spot down, but I think calls something. Yeah, I like

1174
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: the talent. Yeah, I think he's a threat for a

1175
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: thousand yards season. Guys always break out in year two.

1176
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: And again the underlying like twenty four percent targets per

1177
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: route run is again a very very good number. And

1178
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: that's and this year you're expecting him to be on

1179
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: the field, you know, ninety plus percent of the time.

1180
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, there is some upside there. Garrett Wilson. You know,

1181
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 2: what do you think of him? He's going wide receiver

1182
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 2: fifty two. Yeah, I didn't like the landing spot at all.

1183
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: I really thought he was going to the Falcons. I

1184
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 2: thought that would have been perfect. He would have been

1185
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: the number one wide receiver on day one. Now you know,

1186
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: he's probably going to be the wide receiver two three,

1187
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: depending on you know, Corey Davis week the week. But

1188
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: I just don't like the landing spot and he he

1189
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: absolutely needs Zach Wilson to have a pretty big Year

1190
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: two leap to hit at this ADP. You know, I

1191
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 2: I'd rather take Elijah Moore at his steep ADP because

1192
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: we've seen it on the field already. So while I

1193
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: do like the talent, I just didn't like the landing spot.

1194
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: And obviously this is one of the reasons why I

1195
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 2: do kind of like Zach Wilson was because you know,

1196
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: they drafted Wilson, but man, if he was on the Falcons,

1197
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: he'd probably.

1198
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: Be, you know, in the low forties. So that the

1199
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: landing spot was a bit of a hit in my model.

1200
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I actually have them ranked a couple of

1201
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: spots below that, but I don't mind taking some flyers

1202
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: on him.

1203
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: Again, I really like taking those first and second.

1204
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: Round receivers and just you know, seeing who hits and

1205
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: especially I mean, we're getting a guy who was four

1206
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 2: point was it four point three eight speed?

1207
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, lots of light there.

1208
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: But when I just kind of break it down in

1209
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: terms of the you know, the routes, yeah, it's tough

1210
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: to know if he is he going to be like

1211
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: a ninety percent player or is he going to be

1212
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 2: more like a seventy percent player. You know, Corey Davis

1213
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: was you know, Elijah Moore in year one and he

1214
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: as good as he was. He ran around on sixty

1215
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: six percent of the dropbacks and games he was active.

1216
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: Corey Davis was.

1217
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: The de facto number one and he was at seventy

1218
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: six percent. Right, So this is a team that and

1219
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: now you have two tight ends that could be in

1220
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: the field a little bit more than they used it

1221
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: the position last year. So it's just tough to to

1222
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: get him to a route number on a per game

1223
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 2: basis right off the bat that that could pay that value.

1224
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: But he does have the upside to do it just

1225
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: on the talent. So yeah, and if he was on

1226
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: the Falcons, it'd be eighty five percent week one, right, yeah.

1227
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely, so yeah that that's kind

1228
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: of I'm with you on Wilson. I think good bestball guy,

1229
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: good you know, flyer, if you have if your wide

1230
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: receivers are absolutely stacked, and then you kind of way

1231
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: off for a while and then you're just looking for

1232
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: some pure upside.

1233
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: You don't feel like you're gonna have to use him

1234
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 3: very much.

1235
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: Go ahead and do it, But he's very kind of

1236
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 2: he needs to fit in your draft strategies.

1237
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying.

1238
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Yep, c j Uzomah is going at tight end twenty

1239
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 2: four and conquence tight end thirty four. Nothing really to

1240
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: see there. I think his value. But let's talk about

1241
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: Breece Hall. I really he was my favorite running back.

1242
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: I liked him even more than Kenneth Walker.

1243
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: And we're hearing good things just like last year. I

1244
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 2: liked Michael Carter. We started hearing good things early about

1245
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: Michael Carter. You know in camp that he was kind

1246
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: of already running with it with the first team, and

1247
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: it worked out pretty well all things considered. Now we're

1248
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: hearing the same thing about Breese Hall that he's already

1249
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 2: kind of jumped Michael Carter.

1250
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: They play it.

1251
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: I've heard the word bell cow even used. Obviously, it's

1252
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: a puff piece season, so take it with a grain

1253
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: of salt.

1254
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: But we're hearing.

1255
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: At least we're hearing the right things because with running

1256
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: backs it's all about usage, and he does have some

1257
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: talent to go with it. Yeah, he's He's definitely my

1258
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 2: favorite rookie running back. I didn't love the landing spot,

1259
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: but that's that's what you get. And you know, he

1260
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: gives me some like Joe Mix and Cream Hunt vibes.

1261
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: He definitely can be a workhorse back, whereas Kenneth Walker,

1262
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, he's very limited when it comes to receiving

1263
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: usage things like that. So Breese Hall's my favorite rookie

1264
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: running back. This does remind me sort of the Jaggars

1265
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: last year when they already had James Robinson they drafted

1266
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: Travis Btn. It's like, come on, what are you doing,

1267
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 2: at least in terms of fantasy, because I did like

1268
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: Michael Carter heading in this year, but it would not

1269
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: surprise me if Breese Hall becomes the workhorse back very

1270
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 2: early in the season. I think he's that talented, so

1271
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: you can get him at what RB twenty seven, So

1272
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: that's that's that's a good range to get a guy where.

1273
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: Just based on uncertainty, that's why he's going closer to

1274
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: once you start taking like backups. But he certainly offers

1275
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: enough upside to take him there.

1276
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm he's my RB twenty four, So yeah, I

1277
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: think he's I think he's the lead.

1278
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: Back we won.

1279
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think from everything I'm here and at a camp.

1280
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: If not, it'll be very soon, right, it'll be by

1281
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: week three? Right? Yeah?

1282
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: But I mean I just I actually don't. I don't

1283
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: see how Carter was the season as the lead back.

1284
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: I think Carter's over value. He's RB thirty three. I

1285
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Speaker 2: RB forty four. I just don't see enough usage to

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Speaker 2: get to get me to RB thirty three, especially because

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Speaker 2: you have Breese Hall in ADP at RB twenty seven

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Speaker 2: and then Carter RB thirty three. That's just, first of all,

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Speaker 2: that's just way too much production for the Jets facts combined.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think Carter's the big loser for me.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, this is the ADP I was referring to earlier,

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Speaker 1: saying it was a complete joke. Obviously he's won Bryce

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Speaker 1: Hall injury away from you know, crushing this, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's just a few slots behind Breecee

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Speaker 1: Hall is just I don't know what's going on there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I will have very little shares of Mike

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Speaker 1: mccrter at RB thirty three. It's almost like they ignored

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Speaker 1: that they drafted Breese Hall in the second round. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm completely off Carter at this point. Yeah, it's weird.

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Speaker 2: It's like last week we talked about the NFC North

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Speaker 2: and there's like value everywhere and in the AFC East.

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Speaker 2: Now you get here and it's like it's like no

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Speaker 2: one reacted to any of the moves an off season, right,

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna slot these guys in for what they

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Speaker 2: do last year and that's that.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's weird, but that's you know, that's obviously gonna

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Speaker 2: be my buss.

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Speaker 1: But any sweepers for the Jet not really.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if anything Zach Wilson where he's going, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: could be a hit, Like I said, especially if he

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Speaker 1: taps into his rushing side starting Week one this year

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Speaker 1: instead of towards the end of the season. But he

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Speaker 1: has too much talent around him to fail in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: But if he busts this year, then that's that's a

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Speaker 1: very bad sign for him. So I think, just based

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Speaker 1: on ADP, he's the only guy that I think offers

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Speaker 1: enough upside to warrant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'll go, I'll say Breese Hall just

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Speaker 2: because I do have him ranked above where he's going.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, a couple of spots.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you got four point three to nine speed,

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Speaker 2: you got, you got talent you mentioned, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of mixed any Hunt he reminds you of. And we

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Speaker 2: know the Jets will play rookies at this position because

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Speaker 2: they did ask you with Carter, So uh yeah, like Caul,

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Speaker 2: But I mean this, this whole offense. You know, we

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Speaker 2: could be looking at this whole offense like a sleeper ADS.

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Speaker 2: If they could all beat most of them could be ADP.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not Carter, but uh, the rest of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Could be ADP.

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Speaker 2: If Wilson just takes that week like you said, I mean, heck,

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Speaker 2: even Corey Davis, where's he going?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Why receivers? He was their number one receiver last year

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Speaker 3: he's probably.

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Speaker 1: He's probably, you know what, screw it, he's my sleeper

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Speaker 1: just because he's he's so cheap and like you said,

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Speaker 1: he's just sitting right there. So yeah, yeah, all right.

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