1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: Let's stick with Venezuela for a moment, though, knowing that 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: this boat has been seized and the look, we've got 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: another six tankers that have been sanctioned, so we could 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: soon have our own shadow fleet. It sounds like the 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: President talked about this yesterday at the White House. 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 3: Listen. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: It's about a lot of things, but one of the 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: things it's about is the fact that they've allowed millions 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: of people to come into our country from their. 11 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: Prisons, from gangs, from drug dealers, and from mental institutions, 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: probably proportionately more than anybody else. 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: So it has to do with a lot of things. 14 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: They've treated us badly, and I guess now we're not 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: treating them so good. That's where we start our conversation 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: with the gentleman from Massachusetts who has authored a war 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: Powers Act that could soon hit the floor less. Of course, 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: the Speaker doesn't want to see that happen. This is 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: a conversation that Democrats and Republicans are having here in Washington. 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: Jim McGovern, Democrat from massachuse It's ranking member on the 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: House Rules Committee with us in studio right now. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: It's really great to see you. Happy to be with 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: you for coming in combine pleasure. 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: You've introduced this War Powers resolution some time ago. 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: Will it hit the floor soit. 26 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I expect to force a vote on it next week. 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: It'll be ripe to be considered on Wednesday or Thursday 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: of next week. We have Republican co sponsors Representative Massy 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: and Representative Bacon and Marjorie Taylor Green on our on 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: boards on this resolution as well. You know, again, this 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: is not a democratic initiative. I mean these are This 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: is a bipartisan effort by those of us who actually 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: believe the Constitution means something and Congress has a role 34 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: to play, and we don't want this president going into 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: a war without a debate and without a vote and 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: authorization by Congress. 37 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Would this be specific to Venezuela or more broad. 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: It would be specific to Venezuela because that's you know, 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: that's that's the conflict we seem to be getting sucked into. 40 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Although you know the clipp you just showed of the resident, 41 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: he went on to further threat in Columbia, you know 42 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: where he might do further action. But look at wars 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: are easy to get into. Their hard as hell to 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: get out of. And we have a history, you know, 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: of talking tough, of getting sucked into these wars that 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: cost you know, billions of billions of dollars, and then 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: we find ourselves in a quagmire that we can't get 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: out of. 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: Now, I know for a fact that you understand the 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 2: politics of the Caribbean better than most on Capitol Hill. 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: You helped to begin normalizing relations with Cuba in the 52 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: Obama administration. You've spent a lot of time in the region. 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 2: So what do you think the president's aim is here? 54 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: Is it regime change or something else? 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's oil quite frankly, Yeah, I think 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: this president is not about promoting human rights. He doesn't 57 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: give a damn about democracy, and this is not about drugs. 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he pardoned the former president of Honduras who 59 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: was one of the biggest ra narco traffickers in. 60 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: The world, hundreds of tons of coaches. 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, I mean, there must be some 62 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: financial interest in pursuing this policy for the president, because 63 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: that's all he really cares about, making money for his 64 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: family and money for those who are close close to him. Look, 65 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: our history in Latin America has been one of arrogance, 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: has been one of putting profits ahead of human rights. 67 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, this administration doesn't give a damn 68 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: about human rights. They just issued their National Security strategy 69 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: and this is the first administration that has removed the 70 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: word human rights from the from the strategy. So this 71 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: is about Donald Trump's ego and it's about I think oil. 72 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: I think that's at the end of the day. 73 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: I think that's that's why we're seasoned tankers. 74 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: You know. Again, it would be nice if we had 75 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: a functioning Congress that would call his administration up and 76 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: ask these questions like why are we doing this? 77 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: Why? 78 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Now? Again, this is not about drugs. More drugs are 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: coming from Mexico and China right than from Venezuela. So 80 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: what is the strategy here? And the President's threatening you know, 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: action on the ground in Venezuela. Now that's that's war. 82 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: He's threatening to cut off you know, air traffic. 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: Are going to do the land. 84 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: So you think that he would actually strike with around 85 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: targets in Venezuela. 86 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, if he does, that's an act of war. 87 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: That's an act of war. Blowing up drug boats not 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: an active war. Well, I mean I think it is. 89 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: I mean, we have some of my colleagues are debating 90 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: that issue, but not only blowing up drug boats. I mean, 91 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: it appears that we are guilty of serious human rights 92 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: crimes by actually palmming survivors who are begging for help. 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: Again. 94 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: You know, Congress ought to be demanding a clearly defined 95 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: mission in terms of what he is doing in Venezuela, 96 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: and up to this point there have been very few 97 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: question questions and he's provided very few answers. 98 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: You said something interesting of functioning Congress is back off 99 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: what we're talking about here for a minute. We are 100 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: in a world now where it does seem that discharge 101 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: petitions and reconciliation bills are the only way to get 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: anything done in the Congress. 103 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: Do you feel that way? Committee? You know? 104 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean this Congress under Republican leadership does not function. 105 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: It is not working. It is a terrible disservice to 106 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: the American people. This is a place where trivial issues 107 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: are getting debated passionately, and important ones not at all. 108 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: I mean, we have a healthcare crisis right now. People 109 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: are seeing their healthcare premiums skyrocket. People are deciding to 110 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: go without health insurance next year because the costs are 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: so high. We need to be talking about extending the 112 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: ACA tax credits so that people can afford their health insurance. 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: And we're not doing that. We're talking about stupid stuff, 114 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: stuff that is probably not even going to go even 115 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: be considered by the Senate, that is going nowhere. I mean, again, Congress, 116 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: a functioning Congress means that we do the work of 117 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: the American people. And I'd like to think, no matter 118 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: what your politics may be, you know, making sure that 119 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: we are addressing issues of affordability, which includes the cost 120 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: of health care, are front and center. I mean, if 121 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the Republicans have a plan, then bring the plan to us, 122 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: let's debate it and vote on it. They've got nothing, Well, 123 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: let's talk about healthcare. Because the Republicans put up bill 124 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: in the Senate yesterday. 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: It failed. 126 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: Then the Democratic plan failed. The Democratic plan, of course, 127 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: would extend Obamacare subsidies. The Republican plan produced by Bill 128 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: Cassidy would have health savings accounts. 129 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 3: Congress. 130 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: When I spoke with Nicole Malia Takis yesterday, who is 131 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: signed on to a bipartisan effort in the House, D's 132 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: and ours that would extend the subsidies, would add some 133 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 2: eligibility controls as well, because someone like Nicole Malia Takis 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: is not. 135 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: A fan of the affordable character. She told us yesterday. 136 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: Let's listen. 137 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 4: Well, there's so much fraud here, which is why we 138 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 4: think we have the proper balance, and this gives us 139 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 4: enough time, by the way, to then work over the 140 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: next year or two to be able to come up 141 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: with something that can truly replace the Affordable Care Act 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: and bring costs down. Now, what the Speaker and leadership 143 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 4: are saying is that we're going to take up a 144 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 4: health savings account measure which will help people certainly with 145 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: their medical costs. And I support that initiative, but it 146 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: doesn't go far enough. 147 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Okay, but this is unlikely to see the floor unless 148 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: the discharge petition makes that happen. 149 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: But we do with the discharge petition route, we won't 150 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: be able to get to it until probably in early January. 151 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: Sure. 152 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: My question to Representative Malia Takasay is like, where the 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: hell have you been? I mean, you're a Republican, your 154 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: party's in charge. We've been talking about this issue from months. 155 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: This is not something's just for the right since before 156 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: the shutdown, well before, we've been talking about it during reconciliation. Right, 157 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: So we go back months and months and months, and 158 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: we've been saying we got to focus on this, and 159 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: all we've been hearing from Republicans is like, oh, yeah, 160 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: we'll get to it, We'll get to it. And now 161 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: we're out of time. People are going to lose their 162 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: health insurance. Healthcare ought to be considered a fundamental human 163 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: right for everybody in this country. You know, I mean 164 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: you need health care. If you don't have health care, 165 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: you end up in an emergency room, right, you know, 166 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is crazy. So look, I 167 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: there were a number of discharge petitions that are going 168 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: to that have been introduced with various approaches to helping 169 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: people afford their health insurance. I mean, let's let let's 170 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: figure out what the US one is and let's move 171 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: on it. But the stalling and the excuses and the 172 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: faker pointing it has to end. You know, we have 173 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: been we want to debate this issue, we want to 174 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: vote on this issue. We want to help the millions 175 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: of people in this country who are about to get screwed. 176 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: What's the conversation in Worcester, Massachusetts. Right now, if you 177 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: stop in Kelly Square and ask somebody about their health insurance, 178 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: are they seeing these increases in dropping off the rolls 179 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: or are they saying I can't afford it any way? 180 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: So to your point, I'm going to go to the 181 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: emergency room, I guess so. 182 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we're hearing some really terrible stories of people 183 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: basically saying I can't afford by health insurance. Our office 184 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: is getting innudated with calls. Look at people in Worcester 185 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: just want us to do our job, and they get it. 186 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: There are differences between Democrats and Republicans, but at the 187 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: end of the day, they want us to get something done. 188 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to agree on everything to agree on something, 189 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: but whatever that's something is. It has to be about 190 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: improving the quality of life for the people who live 191 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: in Worcestern all around the country. And the problem with 192 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: what some of the what the Senate did on the 193 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Republican side is the stuff that they're proposing. 194 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't mean anything in anybody's life. 195 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, saying I'm fixing healthcare, but in reality, 196 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: not fixing healthcare, not making it more affordable. 197 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't help anybody, right. 198 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: You know, we ought to have a larger discussion how 199 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: we fix our entire healthcare system because it's a mess. 200 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: It's two for profit oriented. But we're not going to 201 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: do that in a week or two. 202 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: Right. 203 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: Right now, we need to extend these tax credits so 204 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: that millions of people don't see their premium skyrocket and 205 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: millions don't lose their health insurance. 206 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: We've only got about a minute left here. 207 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 2: A terminal user just wrote us while we're talking, ask 208 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: the congressman why the ACA failed that they designed. 209 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: Maybe I can reframe that a bit. 210 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: A lot of Republicans come on the air and they 211 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: say this thing was never affordable. Obamacare itself has raised premiums. 212 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: Is this plan broken? 213 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: No, look at it. 214 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: I think it's not perfect. Yeah, but it is better 215 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: than the alternative, which is no ACA. 216 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: Right. 217 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the bottom line is millions and millions of 218 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: people have now have coverage because of the Affordable Care Act. 219 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, if we extended the tax credits, it's affordable. 220 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: But as I said, we need we need to have 221 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: a bigger conversation look at it. If it was up 222 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: to me, we would have a Medicare for All system. 223 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: When I was the chairman of the Rules Committee, we 224 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: were the first committee needed the House or Senate to 225 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: do a hearing. I'm Medicare for All, and I'll tell 226 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: you it was a very, very powerful hearing. But you know, 227 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: to fix healthcare holistically, you know it's going to take 228 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: some time. In the meantime, let's extend those tax credits. 229 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's help people afford their health insurance. 230 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Let's talk when the War Powers Act hits the floor. 231 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: We've got a lot more to talk about. Congressman, Let's 232 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: do this next time at Coney Island. 233 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: All right, I'm with you. 234 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: Onions or no, Yeah, with onions. With onions, it's the 235 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: only way to That's how dogs in the world. They 236 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: really are too. I'm Jill Matthew in Washington. 237 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: Congressman Jim McGovern of Massachusetts, this is Bluebird.