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Speaker 3: Today mister Anthony Dorset Junior. You know what I'm saying. Hey, look, look,
Speaker 3: I know we've been waiting to get into this.
Speaker 4: Cowboys what they do last night they got back on
Speaker 4: that w right So now we're on the right track
Speaker 4: right now. You know, Cowboys won the game last night,
Speaker 4: of course, beating the Vegas Raiders in Vegas thirty one
Speaker 4: to sixteen.
Speaker 3: And it looked pretty good last night.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 4: I mean I'm looking at the stats, I'm looking at everything.
Speaker 4: The new guys that came in last night. You know,
Speaker 4: we got two new dudes on the defense that we
Speaker 4: just got in town, Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson. They
Speaker 4: both played a major role in the game last night.
Speaker 4: Logan Wilson actually took the most snaps out of any
Speaker 4: of the linebackers.
Speaker 3: All right, Quinn Williams came in and what do you do?
Speaker 4: He was able to get his first sack here as
Speaker 4: the cowboy and a half one two as well, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And then not to mention, you know,
Speaker 4: we had guys coming back like Kayln Carson who came
Speaker 4: back off of ir was able to play every defensive
Speaker 4: snap at the dB position. And you know, it just
Speaker 4: looked pretty good last night for the guys, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, After especially after having a tumultous few
Speaker 4: weeks there's been going on around here, being able to
Speaker 4: get good word, being able to.
Speaker 3: Get back on that w you know.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna throw it out to y'all, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And I would really want to know,
Speaker 4: start with you, church Y, what did you see that
Speaker 4: you like? First of all, let's start with the defense
Speaker 4: from the defense.
Speaker 3: That you defensively.
Speaker 6: Finally, I saw that that front seven, and that that
Speaker 6: defense come alive.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: It's great when you.
Speaker 6: Can get that interior pressure, when you can not you know,
Speaker 6: not close the pocket from the outside, but when you
Speaker 6: can get that pressure from the inside. And that's what
Speaker 6: quarterbacks hey, you know, every quarterback I talked to, they say,
Speaker 6: it's all well and good if you guys you know,
Speaker 6: can come around the edge and get pressure that way,
Speaker 6: because they can step up in the pocket and they
Speaker 6: can still go out there and orchestrate the offense. But
Speaker 6: when you get that that frontal pressure, like those defensive
Speaker 6: tackles were doing to Geno Smith last night, it makes
Speaker 6: things hard and muddies up a lot of stuff out there.
Speaker 6: So those defensive tackles definitely came alive. I love what
Speaker 6: I saw from Clark, love I saw from quinnin Williams
Speaker 6: O Diggy Zoo was able to, you know, come up
Speaker 6: there and do some things itself.
Speaker 3: But I loved what I saw from the front seven.
Speaker 6: And then when you look at the secondary, I mean
Speaker 6: first time pretty much all season long where you saw
Speaker 6: contested contested, like there wasn't guys just running scott free.
Speaker 6: Early on, it was a little bit, but as the
Speaker 6: game we're on. You saw the communication. You saw that
Speaker 6: secondary go out there, and they were contesting pretty much
Speaker 6: every past GINO had out there. So I loved what
Speaker 6: I saw from there, But overall, I was just happy
Speaker 6: that this team didn't play.
Speaker 3: Down to the level of competition.
Speaker 6: You know, they did what they were supposed to do
Speaker 6: against a team that you were more talented in that
Speaker 6: you were supposed to go out there and stomp on
Speaker 6: their next and make sure they knew that they didn't
Speaker 6: belong on that field.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what this team did.
Speaker 6: It wasn't like Arizona where they let Bursett come in
Speaker 6: there and do his thing or Russell Wilson come in
Speaker 6: there and do their thing. They came in there, they
Speaker 6: did exactly what they were supposed to do and stomp
Speaker 6: the Raiders out less.
Speaker 3: Hopefully that continues the rest of the season. Hey Trey,
Speaker 3: let me ask you a question.
Speaker 4: You know, and you've played, of course on that D line,
Speaker 4: and you've moved around from the left side to the
Speaker 4: right side, played inside, played outside. What did you see
Speaker 4: last night as far as that that made you optimistic
Speaker 4: about moving forward? And what we see in Quinn and
Speaker 4: Kenny Clark working together and on the outside.
Speaker 7: Oh for me.
Speaker 8: Man like like Berry said, anytime that you're getting that
Speaker 8: interior pressure constantly down your face, it naturally made other
Speaker 8: people play better. Like it wasn't just the Quentin Williams
Speaker 8: came in for him to do what he did just
Speaker 8: one week into the system, right off the back once
Speaker 8: I it proved everything that I was saying beforehand. Eberflus
Speaker 8: doesn't have a complex defense. You come in there, it's
Speaker 8: four to three y back in help the front. Front end,
Speaker 8: helped the back. And last night was the first time
Speaker 8: that you've seen the cohesiveness in a long time, since
Speaker 8: the New York Jets game when they had five pressure.
Speaker 8: This is the first time that you've seen that type
Speaker 8: of pressure dial in. And not only that we talk
Speaker 8: about Quentin Williams, but we got to talk about some
Speaker 8: people that's already been here. James Houston. He's been the
Speaker 8: team sack leader, constant pressure this whole time. Well, now
Speaker 8: that he's showing that he's getting those pressures, you got
Speaker 8: Kenny Clark inside, you got Quinn Williams.
Speaker 7: Demanded the double team.
Speaker 8: It left James Houston with a lot more one on
Speaker 8: one rushes to where we've seen him living in the
Speaker 8: back and we've seen the young pup coming in there.
Speaker 8: He get a safety, he's getting pressure off the head,
Speaker 8: like Quentin Williams single handedly changed the dynamic of that.
Speaker 8: And then even Logan Wilson like these two new additions
Speaker 8: that what leads me optimistic and not even optimistic. That
Speaker 8: leads me going back to what Jerry was saying, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna take ebra flues in this foxhole because schematically didn't
Speaker 8: nothing change. You got him the weapons to go in.
Speaker 8: Now that you then gave the carpenter his tools. Guess
Speaker 8: what he's showing what he can do. But it's against
Speaker 8: the Raiders, so I don't want to get too excited
Speaker 8: about it.
Speaker 7: I want to see.
Speaker 3: You got you know, like one thing is that I
Speaker 3: know you got it.
Speaker 4: Take the small victories any yes, you can definitely try
Speaker 4: to build off of.
Speaker 3: But Nate going into the offense, socide of the ball.
Speaker 4: Now you know what I'm saying, We normally just got
Speaker 4: all defensive guys in here, but now that we got
Speaker 4: you in here today, tell me what you saw from
Speaker 4: as far as with the balance and the play calling
Speaker 4: and with the run game and what you saw up
Speaker 4: front with guys getting healthy and different people playing on
Speaker 4: the offensive line this week.
Speaker 9: You know, I just I like we gave it the
Speaker 9: one sack against the great player number nine of yet
Speaker 9: that can't Crosby. We gave it that one sack. But
Speaker 9: other than that, we didn't have a lot of pressure.
Speaker 9: We was balanced with the run. We kept Javonte Williams
Speaker 9: a juggernaut, that's what we call it. You kept them active,
Speaker 9: you know, and we had other players come in and
Speaker 9: give him a spot check, which I hate. I want
Speaker 9: him to get at least twenty five to thirty carricters
Speaker 9: a game. We said something off air that needs to
Speaker 9: be fixed right now. No more fumbles, No more close
Speaker 9: fumbles are fumbles. So that way coach can continue to
Speaker 9: believe in you to continue to give you more carries.
Speaker 9: Offensive line played okay, they played well enough to beat
Speaker 9: the team that they beat last night. Dak was tremendous
Speaker 9: and how he did it once again. And I just
Speaker 9: got to compliment our two receivers, yes, sir, and I'm
Speaker 9: and I'm talking about the people that say they got
Speaker 9: the all twenty two. This guy CD, Thank you, CD,
Speaker 9: thank you, because now Pickings is killing second coach, you
Speaker 9: can't put a second guy a second corner of third.
Speaker 5: This dude is killing folks. He's doing what he's supposed to.
Speaker 9: I'm loving how these two receivers are playing together and
Speaker 9: playing off each other, that is, and Dak is finding
Speaker 9: them and he's looking for like the pre reader is
Speaker 9: telling him, c D. I'm sorry, George. Hey, you going again,
Speaker 9: and it's working. We did what we were supposed to do. Offensively,
Speaker 9: We had a balance attack, We stayed balanced. We didn't
Speaker 9: get Dak hurt. My whole goal is to get back
Speaker 9: to the end of the season. And they ran enough
Speaker 9: and they had enough play action pass receivers was open.
Speaker 5: Uh, Fergie, they keep dogging up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but Fergie, we're gonna get them five and go
Speaker 9: five and go as long as we keep getting touchdown.
Speaker 4: Now, Dak was twenty five or thirty three last night,
Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty eight yards, four touchdowns, all right.
Speaker 4: We had one hundred and fourteen rushing yards. Williams had
Speaker 4: was twenty two. Uh, twenty two rushing attempts for ninety
Speaker 4: three yards, and.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, like we talked about the balance.
Speaker 4: Now, there's been a little bit of a debate we
Speaker 4: know about that as far as is George Piggins the
Speaker 4: number one or's her number two?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: And and and we've already talked about like how do
Speaker 4: we how do we maneuver the the pass I guess
Speaker 4: you could say the passing game to make sure that
Speaker 4: both guys are actually get fed.
Speaker 3: Now, you know, what where do you go with this
Speaker 3: from here?
Speaker 7: To say?
Speaker 4: Okay, Now, George had that game last night that he
Speaker 4: had CD of course had it, had a pretty good game,
Speaker 4: but he didn't have the numbers that George had. Now,
Speaker 4: is it a situation here where we definitely have two
Speaker 4: one A receivers? Or do we got a one A
Speaker 4: and maybe a one B?
Speaker 3: Or what? How do you how do y'all see you?
Speaker 6: I think when when it goes to this, I think
Speaker 6: it's it's kind of both of them are one a's
Speaker 6: if you want to put it like that.
Speaker 3: They're both number one receivers out there.
Speaker 6: And thank goodness you got a guy and Dak Prescott
Speaker 6: who's able to understand that and able to distribute the
Speaker 6: football accordingly. And I'm sure he got with them before
Speaker 6: the game, whatever the case may be, and got with
Speaker 6: that offense and let him know man, if you're open,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get you to ride.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not gonna force nothing out, cause that's that's
Speaker 3: old Dak.
Speaker 6: That's that's the old dec where if it ain't CD,
Speaker 6: I got to force it.
Speaker 3: He ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 7: No more.
Speaker 3: Have you open or you got.
Speaker 6: The one on one opportunity, he gonna go. He gonna
Speaker 6: hit you with the football. And that's what you gotta
Speaker 6: love about that.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 6: We saw in the two previous games Arizona in Denver,
Speaker 6: those two games where you know, out of those games
Speaker 6: he had one touchdown and three interceptions, you saw that
Speaker 6: kind of forcing. You saw that, man, I gotta make
Speaker 6: a play, I gotta I gotta put the team on
Speaker 6: my back. I gotta go out there and do this.
Speaker 6: And you saw what happened with that those interceptions. We
Speaker 6: lost those games and it just it just didn't pan out,
Speaker 6: and the offense didn't produce like we knew they could
Speaker 6: produced throughout this season. But when you get that bounce
Speaker 6: attack like Nate was talking about, you get that run
Speaker 6: game going opens up a lot of doors.
Speaker 3: For those receivers on the outside.
Speaker 6: And Dak Prescott has done an amazing job of distributing
Speaker 6: the football. Now, if it gets to a point where
Speaker 6: one of these casts got you know, ten to fifteen targets,
Speaker 6: the other one got two or three, and it's, you know,
Speaker 6: a game that's keep going like that, I can see
Speaker 6: some you know, some frustration, but I believe you got
Speaker 6: the leadership in place to where that won't happen.
Speaker 3: At least I don't see it happening.
Speaker 4: Right, We're talking about George Pickens and of course Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 4: Last night, George Pickens had eleven targets, nine of them
Speaker 4: he went for forty four. See he had seven targets,
Speaker 4: he had five and went for sixty six toward the
Speaker 4: sixty six yards and they both scored touchdown. He had
Speaker 4: eighteen yard touchdown and uh GP had that thirty seven
Speaker 4: yard touchdown where he looked like he definitely knew his
Speaker 4: way to the end zone.
Speaker 6: On that one. To be that thing and be able
Speaker 6: to move like that. Man, it's it's wold. He cutting back.
Speaker 6: He looking like, you know, one of these shifty running backs,
Speaker 6: but the man's six four, two hundred some pounds.
Speaker 3: Like man, that's dangerous, dude, that's dangerous.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 6: I see that look on your face over there, Bron.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, I just I just I'm just I'm
Speaker 8: just so astonished, like how things can change in a
Speaker 8: week or two, because you know when when Jesse Holly
Speaker 8: was over there, you know, another offensive guy, and they
Speaker 8: was asking about the one A one B. I told y'all, hey,
Speaker 8: we got a one A one A and you go
Speaker 8: with the hot hand and if you're a smart man,
Speaker 8: you stay with the hot end. Now you talking about like,
Speaker 8: oh snap, we just thirt we're gonna distribute it over here,
Speaker 8: and we're gonna go over here, and like I'm not
Speaker 8: you know, I'm always gonna pull y'all change for saying that.
Speaker 8: But like the way that you knew he and everybody
Speaker 8: was talking about CD was the for sure number one.
Speaker 8: Like he runs the rail tree and he's doing all that,
Speaker 8: and like I said, with George Pickens.
Speaker 7: He just got here. He just got a good guy.
Speaker 8: Dak is doing that, and we're seeing the evolution of Dak,
Speaker 8: but we're also seeing the evolution in George, like he's
Speaker 8: just now started. Like last night was the first time
Speaker 8: you seen him run that route tree a reverse real
Speaker 8: wheel route, catch it then go make the cut and
Speaker 8: go score a touchdown Like I I'm not gonna say, oh,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna pick this guy over that guy, But all
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say is that he's opening up the offense
Speaker 8: because even when you don't have those two guys, well,
Speaker 8: you just have the thread of those two guys. Yes,
Speaker 8: CD didn't have the numbers last night, but when he
Speaker 8: did get it, he was effective. George was effected to
Speaker 8: where we seen Flanora go out there and is making
Speaker 8: a name for himself to where he gonna demand the
Speaker 8: bag at the end of the season. You got Fergie
Speaker 8: over here saying I showed you why mis Jones gave
Speaker 8: me the bag, and it just opens up everything on
Speaker 8: this offense to where it's like wow. So what he said,
Speaker 8: I was in a I appreciate you.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 8: If only you would have listened to me on that
Speaker 8: ten win thing, you might have really been.
Speaker 3: Good time time.
Speaker 6: And secondly, I wasn't here that day. Y'all was going
Speaker 6: back and forth on the on the.
Speaker 8: You said it before then, but I'm sorry it was
Speaker 8: the other guy.
Speaker 5: You know. The thing about this is good banter. I
Speaker 5: love it. Uh Perkins pick excuse me?
Speaker 9: Was in uh Pittsburgh and he had to deal with
Speaker 9: double coverage, he had to deal with uh, the best corner,
Speaker 9: and he didn't have a quarterback.
Speaker 7: There you go.
Speaker 5: So now he has that, I don't I don't so much.
Speaker 9: Worry about who is going to get the ball because
Speaker 9: the head coach has already told you.
Speaker 5: You know, I got these plays with CD. I got
Speaker 5: these plays for for George. You know, he even got
Speaker 5: a little bag for Perkins five and under. Yeah.
Speaker 9: But the thing is for us to all have been
Speaker 9: around one and two receivers and we have a special
Speaker 9: deal here. We haven't had this special over two receivers
Speaker 9: and one is developing even more, like you say, and George,
Speaker 9: we haven't had this when Amari was here and what
Speaker 9: was a rookie?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or CD he was too young.
Speaker 9: Yeah, when it's the last time you had two legit
Speaker 9: receivers and im and I'm gonna go so far back,
Speaker 9: you know, it wasn't even in my time. It was
Speaker 9: when your dad played with Tony Hill and Drew.
Speaker 7: Really that's not.
Speaker 3: Longly, it's Ben. So you ain't gonna say Irving and
Speaker 3: Heart no.
Speaker 9: No, no, no no no, Heart went rat to town.
Speaker 9: He showed you he wasn't call him rat the town
Speaker 9: like he got that I got I got that money. Say,
Speaker 9: now you're gonna see what I feel.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, this isn't.
Speaker 8: They say that either I was like the best receiver
Speaker 8: I can think of during this time Witting, Well, well
Speaker 8: you got Witting, but that we don't look at Witness
Speaker 8: at the tight end. Were talking about receivers. I think
Speaker 8: the best receiver. I was saying, you're.
Speaker 5: Talking about game changes.
Speaker 8: T Williams, Terrence Williams, and Obs. So that's not that's no,
Speaker 8: but that's what I'm saying. It's no comparison. But I'm saying,
Speaker 8: like when you it's it's not sad to say, but
Speaker 8: it's crazy to think, like you haven't had a tandem
Speaker 8: like that with the lineage of the offense like here,
Speaker 8: like Dak has had the number one office, Romo had
Speaker 8: a number one offense. BLOODSOE was doing good at one
Speaker 8: point time, and for all these guys to do good,
Speaker 8: it was like dang, like this is the first time
Speaker 8: you're seeing it. And like you said, you don't have
Speaker 8: a Witting, but you got a Jason. I mean you
Speaker 8: got a first that's over there doing numbers, and now
Speaker 8: you have one a one B and the running back
Speaker 8: is you know like this. Would you say you've been
Speaker 8: the og that you want to seeing all the greatness
Speaker 8: around football, would you say that this is the most
Speaker 8: complete offense all around far as weapons, QB and cohesiveness.
Speaker 5: If our offensive line.
Speaker 7: A lot of great boys football, If.
Speaker 9: Our offensive line can get up to when we buried
Speaker 9: and had that offensive line here, if they could get there,
Speaker 9: Like I say, the two receivers gonna always take care
Speaker 9: of the running back. You know, are either that one
Speaker 9: great running back gonna.
Speaker 5: Take care of your receivers.
Speaker 9: We got two great receivers that would take care of
Speaker 9: the running back situation, you know, because his dad played
Speaker 9: with two great receivers, you know, and they took care
Speaker 9: of one another.
Speaker 3: You couldn't.
Speaker 9: You just had to line up cover too across the
Speaker 9: board and that's all you could play.
Speaker 5: That's all you can play. Anything else was uncivilized.
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Speaker 4: get back on the right track with that w last night.
Speaker 4: And you know it was a total team win. And
Speaker 4: and when I say that, I mean total team win.
Speaker 4: We actually had some guys who finally made their debuts
Speaker 4: last night and the Mario Overshon and uh the young
Speaker 4: Revel kid who was who came back and was able
Speaker 4: to play last night, and looking at from what from
Speaker 4: what they were able to do and contribute, they both
Speaker 4: made some plays last night. Uh, Jerry has been talking
Speaker 4: about we had some reinforcements, and uh, I definitely think
Speaker 4: that this is part of what he was talking about.
Speaker 4: But as you guys watched the game last night and
Speaker 4: just seeing what Logan Wilson was able to do as
Speaker 4: a new line back in here and then playing with
Speaker 4: Overshawn as well, and then what Revel was supposed was
Speaker 4: able to do on the outside. Uh, anytime we went
Speaker 4: to Nickel and stuff like that, how did you feel
Speaker 4: about their progress and just them getting their first snaps
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Speaker 7: For me, I'm gonna start.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna start this thing off just because I think
Speaker 8: the biggest key component is up front. Quentin Williams doing
Speaker 8: what he does. He only for a weekend. He was
Speaker 8: a destructive he was He was a monstrosity down there,
Speaker 8: just do everything that he was doing. It trickled off
Speaker 8: to where you've seen him doing what he did, Kenny Clark.
Speaker 7: Doing what he does.
Speaker 8: But then you had Dige Zul coming off the bench
Speaker 8: and being able to do that, like when you got
Speaker 8: a three man rotation like that, like it is electrifying.
Speaker 8: And for the guy that I said that was gonna
Speaker 8: be my Yetti cool cup logan coming in doing what
Speaker 8: he did. He had the green dot last night, did
Speaker 8: he not for him to have the green dot on
Speaker 8: a short week like this and play the way that
Speaker 8: he was playing, Like you've seen Overshan out there not
Speaker 8: having to direct people around like it Wasn't it so
Speaker 8: much pressure on a guy that's coming off an injury
Speaker 8: to say, hey, I need to be the captain of this.
Speaker 8: But kind of like on offense, you had a one
Speaker 8: A and one B with Overshan making the plays, Wilson
Speaker 8: out there making the checks, and you've seen complimentary football
Speaker 8: for the first time. So for me, I was really
Speaker 8: excited about it. And then I love what I've seen
Speaker 8: for the Revel kid. I'm gonna let the DBS and
Speaker 8: y'all to take that down. But the way I seen
Speaker 8: him making plays, stripping the ball and once again coming
Speaker 8: off major injury like that, I cannot get my hats off.
Speaker 8: We got three people out of this year that it
Speaker 8: came off a cl injuries, right, Overshaw, Revel, and then
Speaker 8: you got digs Well two out of the two out
Speaker 8: of the people that was here with the rehab staff
Speaker 8: the whole time, really showed you.
Speaker 7: What, possibly you know what, let me pass it.
Speaker 5: I had to let me go ahead. I don't hurt
Speaker 5: the tell the truth.
Speaker 7: I don't hurt right, but no, go ahead.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm I'm just saying preach, bro saying
Speaker 5: good stuff. I'm say preach.
Speaker 6: I mean how you look at it Berry, when I'm
Speaker 6: when I'm looking at this. We talked about it yesterday
Speaker 6: on the show. We look at Aberus and the type
Speaker 6: of defense he loves to run. He always the on
Speaker 6: the better ones. He always has that guy on the
Speaker 6: second level. That's that's the quarterback. That's the guy that
Speaker 6: can get everybody lined up and in the right situation.
Speaker 6: Not necessarily an all world, all Pro game changer, but
Speaker 6: he's that guy that thinks above the shoulder pads and
Speaker 6: make sure everybody's lined up in the right spot. You know,
Speaker 6: if we're all playing cover two, not half playing cover two,
Speaker 6: half plan cover one. And I thought that's what Logan
Speaker 6: Wilson was able to do out there. When you look
Speaker 6: at it the defenses in the past, he's had a
Speaker 6: Sean Lee, he's had a ro Kwan Smith, he's had
Speaker 6: a Shack Leonard.
Speaker 8: Out there, and Franklin was black young kid. He was
Speaker 8: behind Shack Leonard.
Speaker 6: Over there, and so yes, he always had that quarterback
Speaker 6: of the defense, and so far this season that that
Speaker 6: wasn't there. You know, you had, you know, marry those
Speaker 6: guys trying to do what they did. But we saw
Speaker 6: the communication errors.
Speaker 3: On the defense.
Speaker 6: So when you got a guy like Logan Wilson in there,
Speaker 6: who's a cerebral type player, had everybody lined up, everybody
Speaker 6: was communicating on the same page, these are the type
Speaker 6: of results you're gonna get. So I love it what
Speaker 6: I saw from him, and he's going to be extremely beneficial,
Speaker 6: in my opinion, to over shown development out there, because
Speaker 6: when you look at it, it's not going to be
Speaker 6: on overshown to go out there and say, all right, guys,
Speaker 6: we're in this, we're in this, we're in that. While
Speaker 6: also being that pro boke out all pro caliber linebacker.
Speaker 6: He can sit there and say, all right, Logan, when
Speaker 6: I got this play, all right, this is my responsibility, seeball,
Speaker 6: go get ball. Let me go out there and make
Speaker 6: these plays. So I love that aspect. I think they're
Speaker 6: going to grow as a tandem and just become better
Speaker 6: and better as the season progressed. And I love what
Speaker 6: I saw from the Rebel kid as well. Man, you
Speaker 6: need that in the second dary.
Speaker 8: Ad, Can I ask you a question break it down
Speaker 8: a little bit more, because I know you have been
Speaker 8: one of the most critical guys of this secondary Darion
Speaker 8: said what he said, But I know for you you
Speaker 8: were critical in the playoff digs when you first got here.
Speaker 8: Elam and the rest of these guys like talk about,
Speaker 8: for me, what did you see in the Rebels kid?
Speaker 8: And then how many snaps did he take last night?
Speaker 8: Because I think he took a lot of snaps? So like,
Speaker 8: are you optimistic in what you've seen from him? Do
Speaker 8: you think Jerry was right when he said, hey, help
Speaker 8: is really on the way, and he was referring to
Speaker 8: these two workhorses and overshawn.
Speaker 5: Nineteen snaps for Revel.
Speaker 4: So first thing I saw last night was drawn Bland
Speaker 4: played a much better game than he played the week before, right,
Speaker 4: and then and then his matchup it actually seemed like
Speaker 4: they had him on bours wherever he was going, yes,
Speaker 4: and so he messed up. Well, we talked about how
Speaker 4: big he was, We talked about how much of a
Speaker 4: mismatch he was, and Laying went out there and made
Speaker 4: some good plays on him. And then to have Kaylyn
Speaker 4: Carson come back in off of ir and to be
Speaker 4: able to play every defensive snap as well. All right,
Speaker 4: so we you know, you mentioned Diggs is gone, so
Speaker 4: you know, of course, you know, we're trying to find
Speaker 4: some guys who could next man up basically be able
Speaker 4: to fill in. And you don't want that guy that's
Speaker 4: going to just be another guy out there. You want
Speaker 4: a guy who's actually gonna be able to come out
Speaker 4: there and make some plays. And granted it was the Raiders,
Speaker 4: all right, but you know, like, but the Cowboys have
Speaker 4: basically been that team that has been that breakout team
Speaker 4: for whoever is going to be that on any given night,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So to actually be able
Speaker 4: to see that and to see that we have a
Speaker 4: little bit, I guess you could say the depth is growing.
Speaker 4: And in the second in the secondary was definitely, you know,
Speaker 4: a positive thing for me to see Revel come out there,
Speaker 4: who hasn't played and what almost over years his last
Speaker 4: snaps were actually in college, Yeah, exactly, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So to be able to come out there
Speaker 4: and the man up your first day out there, you know,
Speaker 4: yeah show it shows a lot of promise. So I'm
Speaker 4: definitely excited about that. And and and my whole thing
Speaker 4: has been with the secondary hasn't been the lack of talent.
Speaker 4: It's just been about the lack of technique that has
Speaker 4: been played, you know what I mean. And I really
Speaker 4: feel like with any of these guys, once they get
Speaker 4: their technique together like this, this whole secondary could turn
Speaker 4: into something very special. Of course, now with the additives
Speaker 4: of what's going on up front, up front and the center,
Speaker 4: and then you know, being able to hold Like one
Speaker 4: of the biggest things that I was looking at this
Speaker 4: this week coming up was you know, it was it
Speaker 4: was a whole thing of like people being able to
Speaker 4: look at this defense and say, oh, we can run
Speaker 4: on it, we can do this, and we can do that.
Speaker 4: I felt like, and I was hoping that the impact
Speaker 4: that Quinn Williams would coming here would be so immediate
Speaker 4: to the point where like, Okay, everything that you've seen before,
Speaker 4: you could throw that out the window. And so basically
Speaker 4: we were able to see that last night. And you know, like,
Speaker 4: like I said, you got to build off the small victories, Okay,
Speaker 4: regardless if it's the Raiders or not.
Speaker 3: They look good.
Speaker 4: You know, it's the momentum shift and it's something positive
Speaker 4: to be able to build off of. Now, Nate, let
Speaker 4: me ask you this right here, Okay, with so many
Speaker 4: young guys on that old line, you know, and last
Speaker 4: night we were able to see I believe they only
Speaker 4: gave it one sack. All right, As we move forward
Speaker 4: with guys getting healthy and everything, as far as like
Speaker 4: the next man up on that offensive line, what are
Speaker 4: you seeing from the young tylers and everything else out
Speaker 4: there that's giving you a positive I guess you could say,
Speaker 4: outlook on the rest of the season, and do you
Speaker 4: see any way for them to carry this momentum and
Speaker 4: keep it going into to like to try to build
Speaker 4: something maybe to get to this postseason if possible.
Speaker 7: This is.
Speaker 5: The confidence out of all the groups.
Speaker 9: I think the secondary and offensive linemen have to be
Speaker 9: of one accord because you got so many things that
Speaker 9: can happen.
Speaker 5: You know, you got people lining up with you.
Speaker 9: You gotta deal with stunts, you gotta deal with games,
Speaker 9: you gotta deal with blitzes. Well, whereas in the secondary,
Speaker 9: you you line up, you got your deal with the
Speaker 9: crossing rights. You gotta go with the underneath. You got
Speaker 9: to deal with the rugs. So we have the most
Speaker 9: to deal with besides that quarterback. So all of these
Speaker 9: things they have to begin to play together. They have
Speaker 9: to stay healthy. You left left guard is not gonna
Speaker 9: get healthy. He has a bad knee.
Speaker 5: He's gonna be hobbled all year.
Speaker 9: But our two tackles, the right tackle is who is
Speaker 9: our left tackle is getting a little bit better. He's
Speaker 9: getting a little bit better. But the bottom line now
Speaker 9: is if our three guys, the center and two guards
Speaker 9: can jail that can we can help the tackles. But
Speaker 9: we need and come in this game here. We need
Speaker 9: for these three guys in the middle to be at
Speaker 9: their best. And this is what the third game that
Speaker 9: they've been together. Yes, sir, go ahead on.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, no, it was gonna I hate to
Speaker 7: cut you off.
Speaker 8: You get excited when you start talking about these guys
Speaker 8: need to come together, because we all know I've been
Speaker 8: the guy that said, hey, it's been the next man up.
Speaker 8: And for those first few weeks seeing them play against
Speaker 8: the New York Giants defensive line, holding those guys up.
Speaker 8: We've seen what type of performance they did against the
Speaker 8: Green Bay Packer who some people have them in Super
Speaker 8: Bowl favors. Do you think that they have the capability
Speaker 8: of playing to that caliber of that level with the
Speaker 8: Eagles coming in right now because you have Jayalen Carter
Speaker 8: the DM, Yes, you have that, but Jordans.
Speaker 7: Like with them playing the.
Speaker 8: Eagles stout front like that, do you think they have
Speaker 8: that capability of messing the wheel?
Speaker 9: And they've had this will be their fourth game back together.
Speaker 9: On the third game, they should be rounded into shape.
Speaker 9: Their defensive ends are nice, but they're not great, just
Speaker 9: like I think we got decent defense events but our
Speaker 9: middle is nice.
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, if we can get a few whams, get.
Speaker 9: A few quick traps, uh, some quick hitting plays that
Speaker 9: we can can keep these two guys in the middle busy.
Speaker 9: You have to always keep them busy. Don't let them
Speaker 9: have a chance to think. Everything's got to be quick,
Speaker 9: no slow developing stuff. Whatever it is, gotta hit quick.
Speaker 9: And these guys gotta be technique sound. That's when I
Speaker 9: played and I played against and I'll say Philadelphia Reggie White.
Speaker 9: When they go into the barrier, they have Jerome Brown
Speaker 9: and they have I can't even think of the two
Speaker 9: other guys over the Mike Goldie.
Speaker 5: Y'all heard him, Mike Golie. They had these three guys
Speaker 5: in the middle.
Speaker 9: We was hitting quick, sir, and and uh and we
Speaker 9: threw technique out the winner because it was a dog fight.
Speaker 9: And so you know, if I got a hole in
Speaker 9: the early in that game, it was okay. You know,
Speaker 9: I had to get it done. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So these fellas got to get it done. But what
Speaker 9: coach cannot do is give up on the run game
Speaker 9: too early. If they force you into that, that's the
Speaker 9: one thing. Yeah, and don't give up just because you know, and.
Speaker 8: I hope we don't give up on the run because
Speaker 8: we've seen it in the first few plays when Javonte
Speaker 8: first came out there, it was an eight or nine
Speaker 8: yard run on the cars, run going on like trusting
Speaker 8: your running back. But like you said when you said
Speaker 8: a wamblock. For viewers out there in America, if you
Speaker 8: don't understand what a wamblock is, a defensive lineman hates this.
Speaker 8: This is where you have the three interior guys and
Speaker 8: your guard is gonna go really quick, and the center
Speaker 8: is right there, and it's so quick to where you're
Speaker 8: getting ear hold and next thing, you know, you're not
Speaker 8: getting off the ball. And so for him to say,
Speaker 8: we need to incorporate some more wambo trap to slow
Speaker 8: down Jalen and then we can slow him down in
Speaker 8: the middle, I think that's gonna set up the play
Speaker 8: action run and we get to see the one A
Speaker 8: one A and Javonte Williams.
Speaker 6: Then make it a Dak prices and just keepavon unless
Speaker 6: unless he I'm with Nate on this one, unless he
Speaker 6: tapping out.
Speaker 3: As he say, Man, I'm tired. I don't carry these guys.
Speaker 3: But keep that brother in the game, man.
Speaker 4: And I think that what you know, the numbers have
Speaker 4: proven over the years that anytime Dak has had some
Speaker 4: true balance and you know he's not throwing the ball
Speaker 4: thirty plus times a game, I believe his record is
Speaker 4: more so a winning record, you know. So that that
Speaker 4: that goes on to say that you know that is
Speaker 4: definitely important. Another thing that I that I that I
Speaker 4: think that you know the Cowboys can honestly do going
Speaker 4: into this game as well against the Eagles, is uh,
Speaker 4: look at it as almost like we got to get
Speaker 4: some revenge here. Okay, they got they got the first
Speaker 4: game against him, and of course, you know, any type
Speaker 4: of division game goes for two games, so if anything,
Speaker 4: and trying to stay second in his division and in
Speaker 4: the conference as well, Uh, they're gonna have to try
Speaker 4: to get try to get this get back on this
Speaker 4: one right here.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I definitely wanted to talk
Speaker 4: about though, Cowboys for sacks, one interception, all right, but
Speaker 4: those four sacks, that's big, of course, and one of theirs.
Speaker 4: I guess you could say it's the second second best
Speaker 4: game as far as when it comes to sacks and pressures.
Speaker 3: They have five against who was get.
Speaker 7: The safety as well.
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Speaker 4: Sat joined by Nate Newton, Demontree Moore and Barry Church.
Speaker 4: All right, now moving forward, Okay, because like we gotta
Speaker 4: keep this momentum going, we gotta try to build off
Speaker 4: of this next week. We gotta we got a serious
Speaker 4: team coming in here. Of course I'm wonning the division.
Speaker 4: Of course, we're talking about the Philadelphia Eagles, and we mentioned,
Speaker 4: you know, this game being a being a conference in
Speaker 4: the division game, you know, so I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Throw this out there to you.
Speaker 4: What can what what can the Cowboys you or use
Speaker 4: off of this game here to try to stay consistent
Speaker 4: and going into this next Philly game.
Speaker 5: Just the same game play.
Speaker 9: Minus the two guys missing the first series or so,
Speaker 9: just come with the shame.
Speaker 5: Come with the same game plan.
Speaker 9: Be physical, let your emotions start the game, but let
Speaker 9: your execution in the game, because they gonna come out
Speaker 9: and try to throw a punch at us. They're coming
Speaker 9: to us, so you come. When you come in there,
Speaker 9: They're gonna try to throw an early punch. If we
Speaker 9: can get through that early punch and not let them
Speaker 9: get too far ahead, we don't get too far ahead
Speaker 9: that we get the big head that we should be.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm not saying.
Speaker 9: I'm a realist and I deal with the middle of
Speaker 9: offenses and defenses, and that means both defensive offensive lines
Speaker 9: in the middle.
Speaker 3: Who gonna win that battle?
Speaker 9: If we can win the inside battle I'm talking about
Speaker 9: versus their center and guards, and we win that, we
Speaker 9: got a chance to win this game.
Speaker 5: But if we lose that.
Speaker 4: Trey, what do you see that we can use as
Speaker 4: far as with the d line showed you this past week,
Speaker 4: to stay consistent with that, to build off of that
Speaker 4: and go into this game against Philly.
Speaker 8: Well knowing Shotty like how I know him coming in
Speaker 8: under Pete Carroll lineage. Pete used to always talk about competition.
Speaker 8: Shotty talk about competition since day one, he coming in
Speaker 8: there just from trash can basketball, that little nuance.
Speaker 7: Well, if I know.
Speaker 8: Him like I think I do, I think Shane's gonna
Speaker 8: go in there and he's gonna lean off of that momentum.
Speaker 8: He's gonna bank off of having that snowball effect. Quinn,
Speaker 8: will you and you came in here and you barely
Speaker 8: knew the scheme, and you got one and a half
Speaker 8: sex already and you only had one coming into the year.
Speaker 7: Come on, man, this is made for you.
Speaker 8: Hey, Kenny Clark, you've been a ferocious monster since the
Speaker 8: day that we traded for you, and you have set
Speaker 8: the momentum for this defense. Guess what you got? Help now, brother,
Speaker 8: go do what you're gonna do. Hey, Overshawn, young guy, Hey,
Speaker 8: you just got back over Shawn, young pup. It's time
Speaker 8: to hunt, and you you're gonna graduate from being a
Speaker 8: young pub to the big dog. I need you to
Speaker 8: attack like that logan. Hey man, you've always been a starter. Well,
Speaker 8: guess what. This is a new place in a new environment.
Speaker 8: Lead us leader. Go out there and do what you do,
Speaker 8: the rookie doing what he does, and then from there
Speaker 8: you're gonna talk them up to make them run through
Speaker 8: a brick wall and say, hey, man, ibra Flus, do
Speaker 8: what you've been doing. Show us we're in the foxhole
Speaker 8: with you. Because guess what, the carpenter has this tool.
Speaker 8: So be excited right now, use that momentum, and then
Speaker 8: you challenge them because guess what this is gonna come
Speaker 8: down to. As Nate, like you said, it starts in
Speaker 8: the trenches. I want to see if our d line
Speaker 8: outplays they D line, And if y'all do that, I
Speaker 8: guarantee you will win because Dak and them, we're gonna
Speaker 8: do what they need to do. D Line, go get
Speaker 8: their sacks. They got a guy that's coming. They got
Speaker 8: two guys that they're talking about coming in. Well, guess
Speaker 8: what our two guys. Guess what we got three guys
Speaker 8: we got. We got Kenny Clark, we got Quinn Williams,
Speaker 8: and we got Osa in the back end. And not
Speaker 8: to mention everybody else, we need to outplay them. So
Speaker 8: I think that's what's gonna come down to to win
Speaker 8: this game.
Speaker 4: Right now, Church, what secondary do that with the new
Speaker 4: addition of the two new guys coming back as far
Speaker 4: as Revel and Case and Clark, and I'm sorry Kaylen
Speaker 4: Clark and uh, what can they do to stay consistent
Speaker 4: minus digs? But like Bland just stepped up and played
Speaker 4: the hell of a game yesterday. What can the secondary
Speaker 4: do to keep this keep this ball rolling in the
Speaker 4: right direction.
Speaker 6: You gotta keep focusing on that technique. You gotta lock
Speaker 6: in on the fundamentals and the basics. You know, don't
Speaker 6: go out there doing stuff that you don't practice on
Speaker 6: the football on the on the practice field.
Speaker 3: Like if you if you're a.
Speaker 6: Guy that loves to play off technique and you're a
Speaker 6: man the man coverage, locking on that, you know, focusing
Speaker 6: on your off technique, don't be a guy that's just oh,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna try this or I'm gonna try that. That's
Speaker 6: how you gonna get beat. That's how you're gonna give
Speaker 6: up the exposed to play. We've seen it earlier in
Speaker 6: the year against Chicago. You mean, you got my guy,
Speaker 6: you know digs, you know, up and down, but he
Speaker 6: jump jamming cats and letting people run around him.
Speaker 3: Focusing on your techniques, locking and that communication.
Speaker 6: Has got to be big time on this in the secondary.
Speaker 6: You guys all got to be on the same page.
Speaker 6: If you're all wrong.
Speaker 3: You're all right. At least you're.
Speaker 6: Playing the same scheme, and I feel like Logan Wilson
Speaker 6: is gonna do a great job of making sure everybody's
Speaker 6: playing within the system there and secondly, as a whole
Speaker 6: defense and a team. Basically, the big dogs got to
Speaker 6: show up like this is a this is a game,
Speaker 6: a division game against one of the best teams in
Speaker 6: the National Football League.
Speaker 3: You can't go missing. You can't.
Speaker 6: It can't be one of those games where, yeah, I
Speaker 6: want to show out against the Raiders, but Philly and
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, man, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 7: You know, you got it all.
Speaker 6: Your big dogs have got to show up offensively and defensively.
Speaker 6: And when it comes to the coaching staff, don't do
Speaker 6: anything too cute, man, Don't don't go out there and
Speaker 6: say I gotta do this reverse trick pass or this.
Speaker 3: You know, I gotta do this fleet flicker here to
Speaker 3: get yardists.
Speaker 6: You're talented enough on the outside, You're talented enough in
Speaker 6: the backfield to get the job done. Stay balanced, stay
Speaker 6: within yourself. And that goes for the coaches, that goes
Speaker 6: for the players as well. But the big dogs got
Speaker 6: to show up first.
Speaker 5: And goal don't don't don't first and goal.
Speaker 9: Juggernaut give it to him at least two times.
Speaker 5: And then if you want to try something fans after that.
Speaker 3: Stick to it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: One of the things I think that is kind of
Speaker 4: playing to the Cowboys been fit right now is a
Speaker 4: little bit of the controversy that's going on with that
Speaker 4: Philadelphia offense all right now. They definitely got a one
Speaker 4: A and a one B or two ones over there,
Speaker 4: but they ain't figured it out like the Cowboys have yet,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So that's definitely playing into
Speaker 4: their benefit. And then and not to mention that sa
Speaker 4: Quan just has not had those those games that we
Speaker 4: saw or were used to him having as far as
Speaker 4: from last year, we were just putting up a hundred
Speaker 4: yards after hundred yards after hundred yards. So with that
Speaker 4: being said, and you know, hopefully, like we talk about,
Speaker 4: build up all the small victories, Okay, it does not
Speaker 4: matter what they are, just building off all these small victories.
Speaker 3: Hopefully that will give the Cowboys a little bit.
Speaker 4: Of a momentum going into this game right here, you know,
Speaker 4: and then to hopefully try to figure out a way
Speaker 4: to not only be competitive, but to actually get a
Speaker 4: w again this weekend? All right, now, the transition into
Speaker 4: this is going to be, Okay, how do we stop
Speaker 4: Smith number one? He's there basically their go to guy.
Speaker 4: All Right, we already see that Brown is being complaining.
Speaker 4: He just had a meeting with the owner and everything.
Speaker 3: Else like that. But when we talk about Philly always
Speaker 3: finds a way to do what?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 8: So can I ask you all this then? With Philly
Speaker 8: always finding a way to win? The number one team?
Speaker 7: Right now?
Speaker 8: The Cowboys the playoffs aren't they aren't completely going yet.
Speaker 8: They're aspirations for it. If they come in and get
Speaker 8: this win, does this does should this excite Cowboys fan?
Speaker 8: Does this let them know that they're a arrival? They're
Speaker 8: really a playoff caliber team and contender.
Speaker 7: Do you think that with this win?
Speaker 3: If you're on the roster, you can't. You can't think
Speaker 3: that if you're on the team. I get it, you know,
Speaker 3: fans and everybody, we've arrived.
Speaker 6: But you can't think that, man, because you know this
Speaker 6: team has been on such a roller coaster ride. Right now,
Speaker 6: they got to continue to stack these victories. They got
Speaker 6: to continue to just focus on getting one win at
Speaker 6: a time when you start looking at, oh, man, we
Speaker 6: got a better chance now to get to that.
Speaker 3: You know, to that tournament and get a foot in there.
Speaker 6: That's when you know a team will sneak up on you,
Speaker 6: like Theirs on the Cardinals or Charlotte or you know, Carolina.
Speaker 7: Or something like that, Charlotte, Charlotte.
Speaker 6: It's like you, you just got locked in one win
Speaker 6: at a time, and then after after the seasons that
Speaker 6: you look up and you're in there or yank.
Speaker 3: But if you look too far in the future, man,
Speaker 3: it can get ugly quick.
Speaker 5: Because we have been the drug store cowboys. Promise you
Speaker 5: bro everybody using us for a drugs. The thing that
Speaker 5: you the thing that this team has to do you
Speaker 5: and you are not.
Speaker 9: Good enough to not play your best every week. You're
Speaker 9: not good enough not to study film. You're not good
Speaker 9: enough not to break the to break the rules of
Speaker 9: the offense of the defense. You're not good enough. And uh,
Speaker 9: that's hard for us to take as alpha males, all
Speaker 9: of us and nature is just not good enough. What
Speaker 9: Jerome Brown showed me that, so I had to watch
Speaker 9: the extra film showed me that, So I had to
Speaker 9: watch you the extra fielm. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 9: so I can level up. So all, you're not good
Speaker 9: enough to be in desperate mode, but you are good
Speaker 9: enough to study your film and do the extra work.
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