WEBVTT - Another Power Struggle In Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into Heat Check with Triste Quick On this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the Heat Check, so much drama happening in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>Hate to see it? Hate to see it? Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>had to lead the show with it the latest on

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<v Speaker 1>the Trey Young saga. We discussed the new changes to

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<v Speaker 1>the league as well that will allow foreign countries to

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<v Speaker 1>own NBA teams. Say what what does that mean going forward?

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<v Speaker 1>And we also asked the questions is the NBA looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a lockout sooner or later? Sooner than you think, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We also get into various trade rumors how JB. Bickerstaff

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<v Speaker 1>might be the most underrated coach in the league. And

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<v Speaker 1>we also talk about Joe Missoula, head coach of the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Celtics, giving his first interview since the whole Emai

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<v Speaker 1>Udoka issue went down in Boston issue. Is doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work. There so much shit to talk about, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>so drop that motherfucker. Oh yes, warm your hands up

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<v Speaker 1>on this hot tea. It appears there is a power

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<v Speaker 1>struggle going on in Atlanta again, actually between world class

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<v Speaker 1>chucker Trey Young and head coach Nate McMillan. Nope, not

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<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Pierce. The last coach that got fired because of

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<v Speaker 1>his drama with Trey Young. The new coach that replaced

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<v Speaker 1>that coach because of his drama with Trey Young. Fun

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<v Speaker 1>fun stuff. As everyone knows. Last weekend, Trey Young had

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<v Speaker 1>a run in with Nate McMillan that led him to

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<v Speaker 1>ghosting the Atlanta Hawks game. Yeah, ghosting meaning not showing

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<v Speaker 1>up for work on Sunday night, Like he just does

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<v Speaker 1>hit it and quit it, just like literally, I'm here,

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<v Speaker 1>where were you up? And then had a nice nothing

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<v Speaker 1>right like nothing no response? Is what was it like?

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<v Speaker 1>Hit him in the text go green? You know that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it was. Why he went ghost mode is now

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<v Speaker 1>at the heart of the story. According to Shams, looking

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<v Speaker 1>at you camera, everybody's giving me a hard time being like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Shams, it's Sham Charanya, it's not what are your roop?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you? What are you a country bumpkin? What

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<v Speaker 1>did you fall off a log? Like? Come on now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Shams, Shams Sharanya. I know it's not easy to say,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just say Shams, but don't don't murder me

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<v Speaker 1>in my own comment section because I know the guy's name. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Shams, issues between Trey and Nate culminated in

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<v Speaker 1>a telltale moment. I love that word. Telltale moment Inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawks practice facility on Friday, All NBA guard Tray

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<v Speaker 1>Young and coach Nate McMillan had an exchange at Friday

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<v Speaker 1>shoot around that laid Trey Young choosing not to attend

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<v Speaker 1>the team's win at home over Denver at State far Marina.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the tea. Warm your hands up on that not tea.

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<v Speaker 1>While Young was receiving treatment for a sore shoulder, McMillan

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<v Speaker 1>asked him if he was able to play. Trey literally said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you later. I don't know. Not sure. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>considering that you actually have to, I don't know game

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<v Speaker 1>plan as to whether your players are going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Nate was not happy with that answer. Not a great answer, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, all right, well, I'm going to plan on

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<v Speaker 1>you not playing, and if you're okay, we'll either have

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<v Speaker 1>you come off the bench or I don't know, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't bother showing up for the game. That was like

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<v Speaker 1>a loose thing, like, don't bother showing up for the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't. He took that quite literally. Trey Young

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<v Speaker 1>decided not only to take the night off. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not gonna go to yourina at all. And shit

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<v Speaker 1>has hit the fan in Atlanta ever since. The Hawks

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<v Speaker 1>have been in full damage control, as you might imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>ever since, and separate pressures, both men had interesting reactions.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh not shockingly, Trey was a little salty towards the reporter. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happened. Let's play it for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all grown in here, and there's sometimes we don't

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<v Speaker 2>always agree, and I mean it's unfortunate that private, private

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<v Speaker 2>situations and private conversations get out to the public. But

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's what the where we live in now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I'm just gonna just focus on basketball

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<v Speaker 2>and focus on helping my team win. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>got to get to refocus it on.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's public was that you not at the game?

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<v Speaker 1>So why weren't you there? And then it gets very

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<v Speaker 1>testy from there, Uh, maybe shit a little more. Why

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<v Speaker 1>weren't you there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It's use Uh so you I mean, right, uherious?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're a leader of this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's hard for people who

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the full situation to understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>So how dare that reporter ask a follow up question?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like I said, it's a private matter again,

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<v Speaker 2>and it made public, which was unfortunate, and if it

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<v Speaker 2>was stay private, it probably wouldn't have been as big

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<v Speaker 2>of a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh, you you think you can just ghost your

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<v Speaker 1>team and it just gets stays private. You don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's gonna be like, hey, how come that guy we're

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<v Speaker 1>paying fifty million dollars a year or two? Isn't that

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<v Speaker 1>the game? And he's not on the injury report? John

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<v Speaker 1>Collins is wearing a boot, he's he's right there. We

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<v Speaker 1>see him, We see him. Where's Trey? You don't think

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's gonna ask about that? And all the youngsters, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different generation these days. I'm starting to feel older, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if that reporter he's gotten attitude, he's dehumanizing Tray by

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<v Speaker 1>asking him where he was. Listen, when you get paid

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollars, it's not just to play basketball. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. It's it's to play basketball. It's to rep

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<v Speaker 1>the brand. It's to answer questions from the media, it's

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<v Speaker 1>to grow the brand. To be available, be honest, be transparent.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people know that enough. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>to put the ball in the hoop at twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>point seven percent from the three point line like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing right now. Trey Young like gets to do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than that. As in a side is is

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<v Speaker 1>this the most salty interview in history? Tray did not

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<v Speaker 1>want to doc to this guy. It was like Russell

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<v Speaker 1>Westbrook and that dude from OKAC. It was like that

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<v Speaker 1>where he's like, next question and then forever. He just

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<v Speaker 1>ghosted that reporter until he left OKAC for good. As

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<v Speaker 1>for Nate, uh, he's been mad as you could expect,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at reports that he gave Trey an ultimatum. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what he said. I address my team about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to Trey about that. We're moving forward. The

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I do want to respond to is there

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<v Speaker 1>was something said about me telling Trey to not show

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<v Speaker 1>up for the game. I will never, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>never ever told a player to not show up for

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<v Speaker 1>a game. That is just false. John Hollinger, who I

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<v Speaker 1>love from the Athletic, who's covered Nate all the way

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<v Speaker 1>back to his Blazer days when he was making Brennan

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<v Speaker 1>Roy the most disgusting player on Earth the Watch said

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<v Speaker 1>of him before the next game. As a longtime observer

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<v Speaker 1>of Nate McMillan press conferences going back to Portland, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever think i've seen him this animated. Yeah, Nate

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<v Speaker 1>has pissed. There's a fracture in the locker room, head

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<v Speaker 1>coach versus head player. Uh, what's fascinating is the fallout.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think that the rest of the Hawks were

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<v Speaker 1>running to come to Trey Young's defense in this feud,

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<v Speaker 1>you are sadly mistaken. Sam Ammick was asked who was

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<v Speaker 1>on the whose side of Raja Bell's podcast and said,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the question, and I think the answer is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear that the players, if they were picking sides

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<v Speaker 1>on this, to be honest with you, they'd be on

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<v Speaker 1>Nate McMillan's side. I like Trey Young as a player,

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<v Speaker 1>M do I I don't know sometimes, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how I feel about him as a person. But

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<v Speaker 1>Trey has done nothing but feud with teammates and coaches

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<v Speaker 1>since he got to Atlanta, to the point where Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Sharanya said in the article that they were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Young to be a more positive voice in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room like when that's the last that's not something

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<v Speaker 1>you just right yourself. That's a direct quote. That isn't

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<v Speaker 1>used as a direct quote. If you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>does it. It's just evens as outsiders are weighing in,

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<v Speaker 1>Like George Carl, who I hate, said this, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>liking the rumors. What astray at George Carl. George Carl

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<v Speaker 1>spit on me accidentally one time. He's the worst. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just go that's a whole different story for a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different day. But he's the worst. Why am I

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<v Speaker 1>quoting him? Because I can. This is what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not liking the rumors about Nate McMillan potentially not

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<v Speaker 1>finishing the season with the Hawks. Nate is a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a coach and a person. There is too much

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<v Speaker 1>player empowerment in this league. Sometimes there's a lot there.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember it was Trey Young who led the rebellion against

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<v Speaker 1>Lloyd Pierce and got him fired. And now it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like he likes Nate anymore. Seems like everyone's the

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<v Speaker 1>problem according to Trey Young but him. As they say

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<v Speaker 1>in the business, sometimes you shouldn't point a finger, You

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<v Speaker 1>should point a thumb. So problem is a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his teammates seem to think Trey jung Is act

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<v Speaker 1>is getting old as well. And it's not the first

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<v Speaker 1>time either, right. Remember early in the twenty twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one season, there was beef between John Collins and

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<v Speaker 1>Trey pretty much spurred the beginning of the constant John

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<v Speaker 1>Collins trade rumors that have persisted until this very till

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<v Speaker 1>this very day, till this day. Uh. Most people were

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<v Speaker 1>quick to label Collins as a malcontent. But the truth is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Trey what it is. Every time there's a problem,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Trey and someone else. Sometimes, listen, your entire organization

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<v Speaker 1>is dick, right. Maybe you just have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>terrible decision makers, a bunch of toxic people around you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just maybe you're just the canary in the

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<v Speaker 1>coal mine. I don't know if I would consider Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Young to be the canary in the coal mine. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>am I close to the situation? No? Do I know

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<v Speaker 1>people close to the situation You are telling me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Young's kind of a punk sometimes. Yes. Shawan's reports

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<v Speaker 1>that the Hawks have had multiple teammates to address the

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<v Speaker 1>many issues facing the team. How many damn team means

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<v Speaker 1>they have? How many? How many do you have to have? Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all hands on deck here. What's the common denominator?

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<v Speaker 1>The canary in the coal mine? Trey Young and as not.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Hawks are a bad team, they're the four

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<v Speaker 1>seed in the East right now. Better teams than the

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<v Speaker 1>Hawks have been derailed by a lack of leadership, calling,

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<v Speaker 1>Draymond Green calling, Jordan Poole calling calling, lack of team

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry is an issue right now for the Hawks, and

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Young is at the center of both those issues

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<v Speaker 1>for the Hawks at this point. What's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Probably more toxic shit. We'll keep you informed.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on. Can we take a minutes to give

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<v Speaker 1>some respect to JB. Bickerstaff, because just three years ago

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Cavaliers were an absolute jokeville, just a jokeville

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<v Speaker 1>of a team, a franchise reeling from lebronze departure, very

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<v Speaker 1>little hope, it seemed for the future. Bickerstaff was hired

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<v Speaker 1>after two straight nineteen win seasons and managed only to

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<v Speaker 1>improve them by three games to twenty two wins in

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<v Speaker 1>his first year and to make matters worse, Cleveland didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even get a top two draft pick, having to settle

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<v Speaker 1>for the three spot. They what's that saying? What's that saying? Rome?

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<v Speaker 1>Rome wasn't built in a day, Cleveland wasn't rebuilt in

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<v Speaker 1>a day. The twenty two win season in JB's first

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<v Speaker 1>year turned out probably to be the best thing for him,

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<v Speaker 1>right They ended up getting Evan Mobley. Shsh, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best player in that draft. Right now, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Jalen Green, no comment, You've got Kate Cunningham, no comment,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rest is hit history. I like Kike Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 1>I like Jayalen Green a lot. But you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. With JB retooling the team to go with

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<v Speaker 1>Allen and Mobley and Marknen, they doubled their wins last

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<v Speaker 1>year to forty four, and right now are sixteen and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>firmly in the race for the East of contention with

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell by their side. Better yet, they are eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and one at home. They are the second ranked defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the entire league. They have a legitimate MVP candidate

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<v Speaker 1>in my man Donovan Mitchell. Eighty to one by the year,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, or sixty six to one at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the year, and they may actually be starting

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<v Speaker 1>four All Stars. Crazy Garland, Mitchell Allen already made the

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<v Speaker 1>All Star Game, and Evan Mobley probably their best player

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Who do they owe that success to? JB? Bickerstaff.

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<v Speaker 1>Why haven't I bet on him to win Coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year. Not sure? Who has not only ushered in

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<v Speaker 1>a new golden age of Cavaliers basketball, He's made players

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely blossom. This is what Jared Allen said, is how

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<v Speaker 1>he interacts with us, How he connects with us players,

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<v Speaker 1>making jokes, keep us in line, the way he fights

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<v Speaker 1>for us on the court, the way he'll step up

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<v Speaker 1>and tell a ref how it should or shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>a foul. He'll never back down from anything. Love a

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<v Speaker 1>coach that got your back. It's very important these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Have loyalty, have people who have your back. Never forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Garland said this about why he loves JB. He's

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<v Speaker 1>honest with me. I don't like bsing. Just be completely

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<v Speaker 1>honest with me. If I do something wrong, I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to yell at me. I want you to do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing that you're going to do. The last

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<v Speaker 1>person on the bench. I don't want any slack or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. Just coach me really hard. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>whole deal with me. I mean, at this at the

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<v Speaker 1>point when they drafted Garland and they had Colin Sexton

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<v Speaker 1>between the two, didn't everyone think it was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Sexton that was gonna stay. Didn't everybody think it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be Colin Sexton that was the All Star

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<v Speaker 1>at least early on, Darius Garland the All Star earlier

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<v Speaker 1>than Sexton. And think about this too. He's developed four

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<v Speaker 1>young players in his three years as head coach, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've made All Stars Garland, Alan Mobley, and Markenen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to forget. JB basically saved Lori from the scrap

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<v Speaker 1>heap in Chicago. Do you guys remember who Louri marketIn

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<v Speaker 1>was in Chicago? He was fucking nobody he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was someone discardible, easily discardible, and he helped him turn

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<v Speaker 1>into what he is today, which is I think probably

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<v Speaker 1>all thirty teams would want Lourie market It right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He is ridiculous. Markanen credited JB. Bickerstaff for helping him succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he wants everyone to succeed. He's a great leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen like, It's not like the Calves haven't faced injury issues,

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<v Speaker 1>injury bugs. They were a top three team last year

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<v Speaker 1>and Ricky Rubio went down with ACL miss rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, miss twenty six games last year, Alan did

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<v Speaker 1>Garland has averaged missing twenty two games a year. Mobile

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<v Speaker 1>missed thirteen games. He has done so much even when

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<v Speaker 1>his best players are sidelined. I don't think we're giving

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<v Speaker 1>him enough respect. Also, why haven't I bet on him

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<v Speaker 1>yet for Coach of the Year. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good bet. Mostly, though, what I love about

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<v Speaker 1>JB is how he understands spacing. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>reasons that the three Headed Monster worked last year with

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<v Speaker 1>all those guys that were seven feet or above Mobley,

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Markinen, It's a huge reason that Donovan Mitchell has

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<v Speaker 1>been able to cook right outside the gates. People said

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to see how Garland and Spider would work.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought it was gonna be horrible, both having career

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<v Speaker 1>years at the same time. I mean, look at Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Finch and see what he's been up to. It's been bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been very, very bad. As an aside, What does

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<v Speaker 1>it say about Colin Sexton that he's the apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>one player that JB. Bickerstaff couldn't find a role for,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't say good things, doesn't say good things. Maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason he's getting zero run in Utah. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's give some credit to JB. Brickerstaff and let's point

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<v Speaker 1>the finger maybe at what's up with Colin Sexton. Right man,

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<v Speaker 1>in the right place is what they said when he

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<v Speaker 1>was hired. I think it's more than that though. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been really, really good. He's been a hell of a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's made the Cavaliers the team that everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of and that no one wants to play. Uh.