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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's Show Guy, John Annick,

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian. God, here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Here are your hosts. I guess if we must be here,

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Speaker 5: we are here. Not looking forward to this today, but

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Speaker 5: we're are UFC podcasts.

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Speaker 6: Thank god.

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Speaker 5: Monday February five, twenty eighteen, episode of the Anak and

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Speaker 5: Florian podcast. Super Bowl fifty two is don Eagles four

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Speaker 5: already one, Patriots thirty three.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 7: Listen. It was a good game. It was exciting. I

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Speaker 7: thought there were some questionable calls, but it seemed like

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Speaker 7: Philly was just playing with just that little bit more

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Speaker 7: passion in the game, and they really went for it.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 7: I saw your tweet and a lot of people were saying,

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Speaker 7: this isn't a team in the Patriots that you can

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Speaker 7: kind of play it safe against, right, And so kudos

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Speaker 7: to the Eagles for really bringing it and going forward

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Speaker 7: and trying some unique plays and just being aggressive every

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Speaker 7: single second of that game. And I think that was

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Speaker 7: the difference in my unprofessional football opinion. But it was

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Speaker 7: a great game, dude. It was a great game.

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Speaker 5: It was an amazing Super Bowl. I wish I could

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Speaker 5: have enjoyed watching it more. I think when you're a

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Speaker 5: sports fan and you're as invested as some of us are,

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Speaker 5: it's just high anxiety, right, It's a painful experience. I'm

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Speaker 5: starting to think maybe actually going to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 5: might be easier than watching it on TV and perseverate

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Speaker 5: over calls and details like that. But I thought the

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Speaker 5: better team won. I felt very early on in the

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Speaker 5: game flow that Philadelphia was the better team, and I

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Speaker 5: was very nervous early. And this is a fan base,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's rabid, and they deserve it, as far

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Speaker 5: as I'm concerned. You know, we've experienced a lot of championships.

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Speaker 5: As you texted me this morning, Let's not get greedy, right,

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Speaker 5: you can't win them all.

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Speaker 6: And that made me feel a.

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Speaker 5: Little bit better, not that much better, but you know,

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Speaker 5: to Nick Foles and Nelson Agalore making all those plays

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Speaker 5: on the blastic game and the kicker coming up with

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Speaker 5: and make it very hard for the Patriots on that

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Speaker 5: final drive. And to Doug Peterson. Right, people asked me

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Speaker 5: my opinion of the game. I said, they got a

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Speaker 5: head coach who's going to be aggressive. He knows he's

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Speaker 5: got to put up a forty spot to beat the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what they did. And man, is that

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Speaker 5: going to be one parade on Tuesday. So we'll do

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Speaker 5: a lot of Super Bowl stuff today. Brian Stan Paul Felder,

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Speaker 5: two lifelong Philadelphia Eagles fans. They're going to join us today.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk about the Super Bowl bet with Brian Stan.

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Speaker 5: He bailed on the stakes, so we'll get into that

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Speaker 5: and what the new bet was. Man, so I'm not

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Speaker 5: getting my ear pierced, but if people want me to

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Speaker 5: do that, I have no problem doing it. It's Stan

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Speaker 5: who suggested the bet and then ultimately flaked on it.

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Speaker 5: But for a city like Philadelphia, I just want to say,

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Speaker 5: and we go to so many great places around this

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia last Pro Football championship in nineteen sixty Phillies won

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Speaker 5: it in two thousand and eight. But this is the

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Speaker 5: National Football League. I hate when people say National Football League, right,

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Speaker 5: but this is the NFL. And for Philadelphia fans, as

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Speaker 5: passionate as they are to get to experience this, and

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Speaker 5: I would encourage all of you to go to the parade.

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Speaker 6: It's just a special, special thing.

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Speaker 5: So as much as this pains me, you know, I

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Speaker 5: of me that really is genuinely happy for them here

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, for sure, I got a bunch of buddies

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Speaker 7: for him. It's as passionate as Sportstown you will find

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Speaker 7: And they've been waiting for this for a very long time.

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Speaker 5: Man, I know our UFC senior producer, Lappy Laplant, you

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Speaker 5: might as well turn the podcast off right now if

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Speaker 5: success of Boston, right, but to put it in perspective

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Speaker 5: maybe for some of our international listeners, and these are

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Speaker 5: just facts, right, Since February of two thousand and two,

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Speaker 5: there have been ten championship parades through the streets of Boston, right,

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Speaker 5: So that's seventeen years. Basically, you got a fifty eight

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Speaker 5: from one of the four major teams every year, right,

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Speaker 5: So we have been spoiled. We recognize that. We understand

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Speaker 5: it's a great sports town with great executives and people

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Speaker 5: do want to play for the teams. But I'm happy

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Speaker 7: We lost a few thousand listeners right there, just right there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just click, yeah, head wherever you gotta go. But

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Speaker 5: congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles. We're gonna do a lot

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Speaker 5: Holloway has never pulled out of a UFC fight before

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Speaker 5: forced to do so here. His title defense against Frankie

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Speaker 5: Edgar maybe postponed. Seems like Edgar wants to stay on

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Speaker 5: that March third date. I just thought Halloway handled himself

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Speaker 5: this is the type of fighter that would go in

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Speaker 5: the walk here. We'll see what they do about March

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Speaker 5: third and a possible headliner. But that fight has been

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Speaker 5: it's not going to happen March three.

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Speaker 7: I know, I was kind of bummed hearing that news.

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Speaker 7: And absolutely, you know, Max Holloway is one of those

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Speaker 7: I think that he really wanted this fight. This is

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Speaker 7: forward to. This is a unique matchup for Max Holloway.

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Speaker 7: He hasn't fought someone quite like Frankie Edgar. I was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I really want to see it. But I do

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Speaker 5: think Edgar and Ortega has legs. I think that's the

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Speaker 5: I think t City is the guy. If they do

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Speaker 5: would not be on the line. They're not gonna do

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Speaker 5: an interim title in that division right now, certainly, but

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Speaker 6: I do want to talk about TJ.

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Speaker 5: Dillashaw in this equation right, because it seems as though

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Speaker 5: perhaps the UFC Kenny was trying to put together a

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Speaker 5: fight between Cody Garbrandt and TJ. Dillashaw or to have

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Speaker 5: the bantamweight championship save the day here and I just

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Speaker 5: want to read this statement here from TJ. I think

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Speaker 5: courtesy bred O Komodo ESPN. It took me two years

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Speaker 5: to get a title shot back. Now they want me

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Speaker 5: to defend it on four weeks. Notice, I have a

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Speaker 5: five week old son, I'm not training, My camp is

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Speaker 5: in California, and I'm in Denver right now, and all

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Speaker 5: this to face a guy who doesn't deserve a rematch

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Speaker 6: I lost the split decision of Domina Cruz.

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Speaker 5: When I lost my belt, UFC told me they thought

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Speaker 5: I won that fight, and it still took me two years.

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Speaker 6: To get back to it.

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Speaker 5: I had to wait through Cody's back injury last year,

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Speaker 5: all the tough bullshit. I told the UFC, I'm not

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Speaker 5: So hey, man, like you know, I'm team Dillashaw on

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Speaker 5: that rematch right now when the Demitrius Johnson fight seemingly

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of risk there for him to go

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Speaker 7: Here TJ. Dilshad. Now that he has the belt, you

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Speaker 7: know he wants to play it smart, and why not

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Speaker 7: it took him a while to get this belt. I

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Speaker 7: fight that is also just a dangerous fight. I'm a

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Speaker 7: huge fan of Cody, but I'm a huge fan of

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Speaker 7: make very intelligent choices when you take the fight who

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Speaker 7: nothing to do with being scared. We know TJ will

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Speaker 7: fight anybody at any time. But all these things in

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Speaker 5: And I do like Cody's willingness of course, right. I

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Speaker 5: think we all can appreciate that. I don't always think

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Speaker 5: you're talking about world champions, who, to your point, have

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Speaker 5: to be calculated in every decision that they make. All Right,

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Speaker 5: plenty of UFC stuff today, We promise you we will

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Speaker 5: get to Lioto Machidah's big win over Eric Anders, But

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl ended like fourteen hours ago.

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Speaker 6: So we're not going to ignore the elephant in the room.

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Speaker 5: Despite the fact that we are Patriots fans, we also

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Speaker 7: I will never I will never get enough of that intro.

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Speaker 7: It is so good. First of all, the photoshop. How

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Speaker 6: How did they do it?

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Speaker 3: I don't it came in fitness swearing Gays got me on.

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Speaker 7: Well, Stean, you are in a good mood, my friend.

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Speaker 7: You know that. That's why I threw you a little

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Speaker 11: I honestly, I remember thinking to myself many times it

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Speaker 3: Most of America wont to cheer for him. But what

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Speaker 11: I mean, Doug Peterson for two straight games out coach

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Speaker 3: It was amazing.

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Speaker 7: Well, you guys won the game. You beat the New

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Speaker 7: beat John Anick in a bet.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so aren't we glad we didn't do earrings?

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Speaker 7: He's so pissed. Brian. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 5: Right, I'll wear the fucking shorts, I'll wear the Foles jersey.

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Speaker 5: Of course, he lives in like a ten bedroom, eight

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Speaker 11: So hey, at least you didn't get your legs waxed

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I gotta get on a plane, but at

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Speaker 3: You know what there was? I was emotional.

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Speaker 11: I reflected on it, but I didn't do any increase

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: He understands that to beat the Patriots, he got to

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Speaker 11: And I mean it really really shined all postseason long,

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Speaker 11: I think Doug Peterson is a guy that Philadelphia can

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't think anak and I really want to

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Speaker 11: I hated it the minute I saw it in that

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Speaker 3: What are you thinking? I just I don't agree with

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Speaker 11: Eric Anders should have been at the Super Bowl yesterday

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Speaker 3: And days packing up to it, coordinating with.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to have him fight a guy. You know.

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Speaker 11: But I thought that decision, to me was just one

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think Andrews is gonna learn a lot

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Speaker 11: Interest, in that kind of viewership and get people to

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Speaker 11: turn the down and watch you fight, then you need

439
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Speaker 11: to find a way to do that and don't complain.

440
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Speaker 11: When you get guys that and women that can do that,

441
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Speaker 11: they're gonna get pushed, and if who's the UFC, you're

442
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Speaker 11: to slow them down and let them progress so you

443
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Speaker 11: can really get eyeballs, you know, on the screens and

444
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Speaker 11: get a great TV deal.

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Speaker 5: I just want to say one thing on that Eric

446
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Speaker 5: Anders called out Lioto Machida Bry in his post fight interview. Now,

447
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 5: you know, promotionally we love when these guys do the

448
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 5: match making for us, right, But is the criticism also

449
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 5: or is their criticism also to.

450
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Speaker 6: Be levied at Team Anders?

451
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Speaker 13: Right?

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

453
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Speaker 6: For you know, wanting this fight right now?

454
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Speaker 3: I mean, John, you bring up such a great point.

455
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Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of that.

456
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Speaker 6: Yes, I forgot it crazy And uh.

457
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you I've said this for a long time.

458
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Speaker 3: You've heard me say this. The managers in m m A.

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Speaker 11: Right, we are not talking about you know, high level

460
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Speaker 11: employees here, right, you know we can I don't know

461
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Speaker 11: whose manager is.

462
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Speaker 5: So you know, I know it's actually somebody who you

463
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Speaker 5: really respect and like a lot Jason House, it is

464
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Speaker 5: a guy.

465
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got to learn to protect these guys.

466
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Speaker 13: Right.

467
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Speaker 11: They don't have extensive business backgrounds, right, They've they've never

468
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Speaker 11: before this job actually built a brand from scratch, up

469
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Speaker 11: to being a profitable business. And every one of these

470
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Speaker 11: athletes is their own brand, and you've got to protect

471
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Speaker 11: us from ourselves.

472
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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll fight anybody, anybody given time.

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Speaker 13: I was, you know, it's I.

474
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Speaker 11: Can't tell you how many times I want to fight

475
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Speaker 11: so and so on this date. And I had a

476
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Speaker 11: manager who would they say, no, this kid's not ready

477
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Speaker 11: for that. And maybe he wouldn't tell me that because

478
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Speaker 11: they want to ruin my confidence. But when he communicated

479
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 11: to Joe Silva, he would make sure that Joe Silva

480
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Speaker 11: knew that and said, look, I don't think this is

481
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Speaker 11: right for Brian at the time because I never turned

482
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Speaker 11: to fight down. But I'm sure those conversations happen. And

483
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Speaker 11: you've got to build I mean, these kids, they have

484
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Speaker 11: such a short window to make as much money as

485
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Speaker 11: they can, as fast as they can, and for as

486
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Speaker 11: long as they can. And if you push them too

487
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Speaker 11: quick and you shorten that timeline, that window that they

488
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Speaker 11: can fight in, and they make less money.

489
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Speaker 3: That's what they're.

490
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Speaker 11: Depending on for the rest of their lives. Right, you

491
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Speaker 11: guess what, you don't make a whole lot of money.

492
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Speaker 11: And Kenny's dealing with this now and in the most

493
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Speaker 11: expensive area of the country. But you don't make a

494
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Speaker 11: whole lot of money when you open up your own gym,

495
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Speaker 11: you know, and try and make a living and live

496
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Speaker 11: off that. You better be really good at running that

497
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Speaker 11: business if that's your retirement plan as an athlete, or

498
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Speaker 11: you end up like me and have a completely second

499
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Speaker 11: career where you've got to get an MBA and you've

500
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Speaker 11: got to invest a.

501
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Speaker 3: Lot of money and what is going to be your

502
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Speaker 3: second career?

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Speaker 6: Good stuff there, Bri.

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Speaker 5: Do you have thirty seconds to give me a lean

505
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Speaker 5: on Luke Rockold and Yoel Romero rock Hold right now

506
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 5: minus one forty Romero plus one ten God, I'll tell

507
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Speaker 5: you what.

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Speaker 11: That is a tough one, you know. I just I

509
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 11: think that I have a hard time, you know. I

510
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 11: need to see that Luke Rockhold's chin can hold up

511
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Speaker 11: to a guy who punches as hard as Romero. And

512
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Speaker 11: I think you're going to see Romero be very cautious,

513
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 11: knowing his gas tank is what it is. We're going

514
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Speaker 11: to see a more cautious Romero. And I think it's

515
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Speaker 11: essential that Luke rockcold attack him to the body early.

516
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Speaker 11: But I could see Romera, you know, he just he

517
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Speaker 11: strikes man like lightning. I could see that happening inside

518
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Speaker 11: of the first two rounds and maybe catching Luke. Although

519
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Speaker 11: I think that Luke is by far the better fighter.

520
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Speaker 11: Luke's one of the best athletes overall in the UFC.

521
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Speaker 11: He's such a complete fighter, and it's just unfortunate that

522
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Speaker 11: that he's taken some shots and hopefully we could see

523
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Speaker 11: his chin hold up again.

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Speaker 5: But I could see Rome catch all right, man, thank

525
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Speaker 5: you very much. We'll let you get out of here.

526
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 5: I know they're celebrating on the streets of Scranton, Pennsylvania

527
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 5: and beyond. We congratulate you and all of Philadelphia Eagles Nation.

528
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: And when I come to clean your bathrooms and wash

529
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Speaker 5: your car, just send the golf cart out to the gate.

530
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 5: Keep the AUDI in the driveway, okay, just send the

531
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Speaker 5: golf cart out to the gate and I'll come do

532
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Speaker 5: your shit.

533
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Speaker 7: Okay, make sure he vacuums that inside. Make sure he

534
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Speaker 7: vacuums those little spots in the front of the car.

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Speaker 8: There.

536
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Speaker 3: You know what we're get.

537
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Speaker 11: Definitely, I'll send you pictures of him and those booty

538
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Speaker 11: shirts kind of good fort Top.

539
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Speaker 5: You're the best, buddy, Thank you, Thanks so Stan send

540
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Speaker 5: an email to me and Ken Flow right after the

541
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Speaker 5: podcast last week, and I just said, I just want

542
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Speaker 5: to confirm we're doing one earring. You keep it in

543
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Speaker 5: for ten days. And Brian was like, it was my idea,

544
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Speaker 5: it was a terrible idea. How about this other bet?

545
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Speaker 5: And so reluctantly we agreed. So I'll be flying to

546
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Speaker 5: Atlanta to make good on that bet. As far as

547
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Speaker 5: Andrews Macheetah is concerned, Kenny, I just want your take

548
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Speaker 5: real quick, and I know Brian is sort of coming

549
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Speaker 5: down harror on all sides of this equation. There are

550
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Speaker 5: a lot of different masters to serve here, right, I

551
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 5: mean there's a huge roster and rankings that there's a

552
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 5: lot of different layers to this pay per view FS

553
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Speaker 5: one shows, Fight Pass, Fox, everything else.

554
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Speaker 6: But Eric Anders called for this fight.

555
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Speaker 5: It was Leodo Michiita Kenny, who was coming off a

556
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Speaker 5: knockout loss to Derek Brunson just a couple of months ago.

557
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Speaker 5: Anders went in there as the three to one favorite,

558
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Speaker 5: and had he won this decision against Leota Macheedah or

559
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Speaker 5: found a way to capitalize early and finished Leota Macheedah,

560
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Speaker 5: then potentially.

561
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Speaker 6: A star is born.

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Speaker 5: So while I certainly see the merits of Anders doing

563
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Speaker 5: radio row at the Super Bowl given his football background

564
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Speaker 5: at Alabama, to me, I thought there was upside to

565
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Speaker 5: this fight, and credit Lioto Macheedah for proven that there's

566
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Speaker 5: still plenty of fight left in that dough.

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Speaker 11: No.

568
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, listen, I think that with Anders, he could have

569
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Speaker 7: won that fight. First of all, we need to mention

570
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Speaker 7: that that was a fight that really could have gone

571
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Speaker 7: either way. Some people had Anders winning that fight. I

572
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Speaker 7: wasn't sure which way it was going to go. I

573
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Speaker 7: think whoever won that fight, I thought, whatever, it was

574
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Speaker 7: close enough. So yeah, Andrews could have won that fight.

575
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Speaker 7: We could have been talking about how Anders now is

576
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Speaker 7: a potential star here. He's gonna learn a lot from

577
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Speaker 7: this fight. He's gonna learn a lot from this fight.

578
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Speaker 7: I thought his approach was a little odd. He was

579
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Speaker 7: very cautious, but more than anything else, you can't creep

580
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Speaker 7: in against someone like Macheetah kind of leaning on your

581
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Speaker 7: back foot, just kind of creeping in looking for that

582
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Speaker 7: one big shot. He almost pulled it off a couple times.

583
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Speaker 7: But you have to be better with your footwork. You

584
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Speaker 7: have to faint your way in a lot more. You

585
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Speaker 7: have to try to cut angles. You can't just take

586
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Speaker 7: a straight line against someone like Macheta and try to

587
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Speaker 7: get it done with one big shot. Machita was still

588
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Speaker 7: savvy enough to get it done with. That said, has

589
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Speaker 7: Macheita changed since the Chris Widman fight? Right, He's the

590
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Speaker 7: same guy. And the thing is, you know, I say

591
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Speaker 7: it all the time, if you are setting the exact

592
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Speaker 7: same patterns for a large part of your career, people

593
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Speaker 7: are gonna figure out a way, no matter how good

594
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Speaker 7: you are, no matter how no matter how tricky you are,

595
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Speaker 7: everything has a pattern, even there's there's patterns and chaos.

596
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Speaker 7: And with Matcheetah, he know, came out here with a

597
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Speaker 7: style that was very unique. He showed a lot of patience.

598
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Speaker 7: But now guys are figuring him out and he's doing

599
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Speaker 7: the exact same thing over and over again, and you know,

600
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Speaker 7: is it too late for him to change his game

601
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Speaker 7: at this point?

602
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

603
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Speaker 7: I mean, he probably has one or two more fights left.

604
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Speaker 7: But he's one of those guys who hasn't really evolved

605
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Speaker 7: in the last few years, and because of that, you're

606
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 7: seeing a lot of inconsistencies with his result. He's still

607
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,479
Speaker 7: a phenomenal fighter. Still won't go down as a legend.

608
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Speaker 7: But you know, in this division and in this sport

609
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Speaker 7: where it's changing so quickly, you just can't afford to

610
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Speaker 7: do that and expect consistent success.

611
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Speaker 6: All right.

612
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Speaker 5: Back out to the guest line, now barely off the

613
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Speaker 5: plane from Brazil today, though I would imagine he does

614
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Speaker 5: not have a care in the world because the Philadelphia

615
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 5: Eagles are Super Bowl champions. Paul Felder, I know you

616
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 5: did not play in the game last night, but we

617
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 5: want to congratulate you. I know this has been something

618
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 5: you have sort of dreamt about for a long time.

619
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Speaker 5: And today, man, you guys wake up as Super Bowl champions.

620
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Speaker 5: Congratulations from a couple of Bostonians kids.

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Speaker 10: Oh my god, man, yeah, I mean, I'm barely awake

622
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 10: right now.

623
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Speaker 3: It's got my hat on.

624
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 10: I had to take the hat off during the game

625
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 10: yesterday because they started playing poorly and I started getting superstitious.

626
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 10: So the hat went on after they won the Super Bowl.

627
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 10: It'll stay on all day.

628
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Speaker 9: Well.

629
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Speaker 5: I'm happy to see you today, man, and you know

630
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 5: I'm happy for you and your brothers and your mom

631
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: and as much as maybe I don't want to see

632
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 5: this video I was able to obtain a live video

633
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 5: of Paul Felder on the plane back from Brazil watching

634
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 5: the play by play as the score went final. So

635
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 5: here is Paul Felder thirty thousand feet up in the

636
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 5: air as the score of the Super Bowl went final,

637
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: end up game.

638
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Speaker 3: Wanted if anybody goes, I know everybody's trying to sleep.

639
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, that's for your dad.

640
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 6: Oh oh, it's so good man.

641
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 5: I mean, legit gives me chills, right, and my team

642
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 5: was on the other side of this man, pretty special,

643
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 5: uh moment for you there mid air.

644
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 10: I thought a little more people on the plane would

646
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 10: be a little excited, you know, I know, maybe not

647
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 10: Eagles fans or Patriots fans on the plane, but Jesus,

648
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 10: it is the Super Bowl, right. I was like, I mean,

649
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 10: we are flying during the Super Bowl. Nobody, nobody's interested.

650
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 10: One guy at the very end came up to me

651
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 10: when we were getting off nine hours later from.

652
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: Then it was like, uh, who won? I'm like, you

653
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: didn't hear me screaming the whole time?

654
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 5: And and we do want to thank our UFC producer

655
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: Mike Ricci for that film. So if I were you,

656
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 5: I know, you just got off the plane, but like

657
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: I'd be drinking or smoking weed like dude, Like I mean,

658
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: I know, I mean training can forget about ally Aquinta

659
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 5: for like twelve hours. Man, how does a guy like

660
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: you celebrate, I would imagine not like Brian's stand, you

661
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 5: know at the office at eight fifty five am.

662
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 10: Now, well, he's he's a savage when it comes to

663
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 10: being responsible and getting stuff done. I mean, I was

664
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 10: having fun last night on the plane. I'm going to

665
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 10: train a little bit today, and I know the parade,

666
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 10: I think they're saying he's gonna be Thursday now, So

667
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 10: I got a few days to to try to get

668
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 10: back into shape from this horrible, horrible flying journey to

669
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 10: the bottom of the world there to Brazil. But yeah,

670
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 10: and I'm probably gonna link up with my brother either

671
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 10: tonight or tomorrow as well. And I'm going to try

672
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 10: to bring my daughter to the parade and let her

673
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Speaker 10: experience that. You know, she's not even three years old

674
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Speaker 10: and she's got a Super Bowl. It took took me

675
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 10: thirty almost thirty four years, but I can't amaze they

676
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 10: finally got one.

677
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: Man, I'm so glad you're taking her to the parade

678
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: because that really is important. I know we talked about

679
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 5: that before the Super Bowl and you got to make

680
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: sure that that you hit that parade. And it's interesting

681
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 5: that it's Thursday. Boston always turns it around on Tuesday.

682
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 5: Gives you a few extra days, all right. I know

683
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 5: Kenny wants to get with you on machetah Anders. But

684
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 5: last thing, just on the Eagles last night and Doug

685
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 5: Peterson and Nick Foles and Nelson Agilore and everybody making plays.

686
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: I know you didn't see it as it was going

687
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: on live, but you know, it's got been nice to know.

688
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 10: So the first half of the first in South Paulo

689
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 10: and then me and Ritchie were trying to hang on

690
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 10: as long as we could and we had to eventually

691
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 10: board and then we that's when we got on ESPN's

692
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 10: website and I got the Wi Fi hooked up and

693
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 10: we saw, you know, the little teeny little field and

694
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 10: they showed where the ball was and we followed it

695
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 10: pretty pretty much play by play, but definitely didn't get

696
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 10: to see some of the craziness and the fumble.

697
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: And all that at the end of the game.

698
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 5: So see and even stopped smiling. I just wanted to

699
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 5: say on Doug Peterson. Kind of nice when you go

700
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 5: up against this Patriots juggernaut, I would think, and this

701
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 5: was a big source of your confidence to know that

702
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: you have a head coach that is gonna go for

703
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: it and understands what he needs to do to put

704
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 5: thirty five or forty on the board.

705
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 10: Yeah. I mean, gotta play aggressive, man, and play through

706
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 10: the whole game too. You know, you cannot give Brady

707
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 10: and those guys a chance. That saw all we were

708
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 10: talking about on the plane when it was a close

709
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 10: game your own in the second half, We're like, oh

710
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 10: my god, you just can't let them get the ball

711
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 10: back with any time. Anytime you let him have the ball,

712
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 10: and you know there's any time on that clock they

713
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 10: can make plays and come back and shove it down

714
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 10: your throat. So I was pretty nervous on the flight,

715
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 10: just knowing that it just takes one beautiful pass from

716
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 10: that man and all our dreams come crashing down.

717
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 7: I'm sure you're nervous in that fourth quarter, man, but

718
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 7: you guys pulled it off. Dude. That was amazing. Listen, man,

719
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 7: I your nickname is the Irish Dragon. Was that an

720
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 7: ode to Machetah first of all, I wanted to find

721
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 7: that out.

722
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

723
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 10: Well, the guy that gave me the nickname, which I

724
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 10: didn't even want in the beginning, well, it kind of

725
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 10: was because of Micheitah. Yeah, so that was kind of

726
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 10: his spin on giving me the dragon nickname. I was

727
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 10: a huge Michidah fan my whole career, and he's one

728
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 10: of the reasons I started doing mma is because I

729
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 10: came from a karate background, on a Taekwon dough background.

730
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 13: So when he won the belt and beat Shot, it

731
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 13: was kind of like, holy.

732
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 10: Crap, this guy's showing that US traditional martial arts guys

733
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 10: can transition as long as you train wrestling, jiu jitsu,

734
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 10: take that style, and you know, my style started to

735
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 10: become more Muay Thai as I got older anyway, but

736
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 10: it definitely originated in karate is how I got started.

737
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 10: So yeah, to be able to call Macheetah's fight the

738
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 10: other night and see him live and interview him.

739
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: If you look.

740
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 10: Close, I've got like a shit eating grin on my

741
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 10: face the whole time I'm interviewing them.

742
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, when you did this, yes, I thought that

743
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 7: was a little lod Yeah, when you were kind of

744
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 7: staring into his eyes a little bit. But listen, man,

745
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 7: what do you think of his performance?

746
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 5: Uh?

747
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 10: You know, I thought it was really close, and I

748
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 10: know that, you know Anders. I was talking to their

749
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 10: coaches and they really thought they did enough to get

750
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 10: it done.

751
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: And I didn't know.

752
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 10: I know that we had the stats when the fight

753
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 10: was wrapped at Michidah did outland him. It might have

754
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 10: not looked at but he was backing up the whole time,

755
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 10: but he was actually landing more more significant strikes.

756
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: The whole fight.

757
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 10: Landed a lot of kicks, but every now and then

758
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 10: he would get clipped, so it looked like the momentum

759
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 10: was gonna change. But Anders never really got his foot

760
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 10: on the gas. And that's something he'll learn. You know,

761
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 10: when you fight a guy like Machida, you gotta you

762
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 10: gotta get him and get on top of him and

763
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 10: and stop his movement. And you know, when when you're

764
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 10: fighting in the laying and that's his hometown, you you

765
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 10: can't let that go to a five round decision.

766
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, did you think that was a fight that could

767
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 7: have gone either way? Do you think Andrews, would you

768
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 7: have a would you have had a problem if Andrews

769
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 7: won that fight.

770
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 10: No, No, I wouldn't just because of the pressure. You know,

771
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 10: you don't know what the judges are looking at. I mean,

772
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 10: but again, I saw the strikes that were landing were

773
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 10: definitely pretty heavily in favor of Micheetah, but cage control,

774
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 10: I guess you know, Andrews was definitely moving forward the

775
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 10: whole fight, and just all he really needed to do

776
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 10: was just throw a little more, even if they were

777
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 10: just jabs or inside leg kicks.

778
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 13: Or something, and I think he could have got that decision.

779
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 7: All right.

780
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: Last thing, are you the biggest Philadelphia Eagles fan on

781
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 5: the UFC roster of five six hundred fighters?

782
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: Man?

783
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean who else?

784
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 13: Who else is?

785
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 9: I don't know?

786
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 5: I mean Eddie Alvarez, I know was tweeting him, but

787
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 5: he doesn't strike me as the watching seventeen week type.

788
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 10: Eddie's diehards. He's a true Philly guy too, so I

789
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 10: mean he actual ins and out of the games. But

790
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 10: I just you can hang out with my brother for

791
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 10: five minutes and you become the biggest Eagles fan that

792
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 10: there could possibly be. Because it's it's stressful to you.

793
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 10: I'm glad I didn't I'm glad I didn't have to

794
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 10: experience that with my brother Tommy, because he was probably

795
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 10: so nervous, so upset whenever they would, you know, give

796
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 10: up a point that it would have been hard to watch.

797
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 10: But I did actually end up calling him while I

798
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 10: was on the flight and got a lot of trouble too,

799
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 10: because I forgot to put my phone on airplane mode

800
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 10: the whole time, so I ended up uh mess messing

801
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 10: him and then calling him on my uh my Facebook messenger,

802
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 10: and the lady came by.

803
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: She's like, what are you doing. You can't be on

804
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: your phone right now. It was like the Eagles won, all.

805
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 5: Right, Well we've taken up enough of your time, kid,

806
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 5: have a great day. We're happy for you. Man, Congratulations

807
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: to the birds. Enjoy the parade with your daughter, and

808
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 5: we'll talk to you. I would imagine before the eye

809
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 5: Quin to fight here in a couple months. Man, Thank

810
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 5: you for hopping on gets mess.

811
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 13: Where I go.

812
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 10: I want everybody to know that I was over there

813
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 10: and I still been training, and people are like, you

814
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 10: need to be focused on Brooklyn. Listen, don't anybody get

815
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 10: it twisted. And I've been busting my ass and I'll

816
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 10: be busting my ass for the next eight weeks, and

817
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 10: Philly's going to be showing up in Brooklyn, and I'm

818
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 10: gonna take iya Quint's face off.

819
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: When I see him.

820
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 7: Fired up.

821
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: I love it all right, man, go enjoy that Super

822
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: Bowl championship. I'd imagine that'll be a hell of a

823
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: training session today. I mean, I hate to be on

824
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 5: the wrong end of the pads today when Felder starts

825
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 5: kicking shit.

826
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 6: Have a good day, man, Thank you.

827
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 10: Hey, I'm actually hitting pads today, so you're right, it's

828
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 10: gonna be It's gonna be good.

829
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: I hear those dads. Have a good day, bud.

830
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 10: Thank you, guys.

831
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: I do believe he's the biggest power threat, at least

832
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 5: with every limb at one hundred and fifty five pounds

833
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,319
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858
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 5: dating to August second of nineteen sixty nine.

859
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 6: That's the day he was born.

860
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: This man was actually in the building, though, in Minneapolis

861
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 5: last night with his son to watch his Eagles win.

862
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 6: The Super Bowl.

863
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 5: He is Fox's vice president of production for the UFC.

864
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: Our good friend Steve Becker is now live on the

865
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Speaker 5: Anakin Florian podcast How Good is this Monday? In the

866
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Speaker 5: suburbs of Atlanta, Georgia?

867
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Speaker 8: For you, I'm not going to lie to you, John.

868
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 8: Other than getting married and having my two kids, this

869
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 8: is one of, if not the greatest day of my life.

870
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Speaker 8: Yesterday was something I will never ever forget. I've been

871
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 8: waiting forty eight years, six months and three days for

872
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 8: that to happen.

873
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 5: So I'd imagine you were brought to tears. I'm a

874
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 5: pretty emotional guy, more so since having children. So if

875
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: I could get sentimental for a second, you're in the

876
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 5: building with your son, that type of game, the ebb

877
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 5: and flow, I mean, I mean water works, I would

878
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 5: think for you at the end of that game.

879
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 8: No, there was waterworks. I got emotional when they came

880
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 8: out of the tunnel, and when that we were at

881
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 8: the ten yard line, that end zone where that hail

882
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 8: Mary was happening, and when we saw it hit the

883
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 8: ground and we look we both looked up at the

884
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 8: clock and had triple zeros on it. It was. It

885
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 8: was euphoria, hugging, crying, And then I think the part

886
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 8: that was the most emotional was after a little bit

887
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 8: of the celebration that happened, I called my father eighty

888
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 8: two years old. He was at the nineteen sixty championship game,

889
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 8: the last championship, the Eagles one, and that it actually

890
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 8: was more emotional talking to my father and him knowing

891
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 8: that I was there and experiencing it with my son.

892
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 9: It was.

893
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 8: It's something I'll never forget.

894
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable, man, this is what it's all about. And

895
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: I hope that when we've congratulated Philadelphia and the Eagles

896
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 5: fans today, it sounds genuine because again, you give me

897
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: chills when you tell these stories.

898
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 6: This is this is what it's all about.

899
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 5: All of that said Steve last, I did nothing for

900
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 5: my long term health in the positive, right, Like this

901
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 5: is pure hell man, Like it's nice having your team

902
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 5: in it, obviously, and we've been spoiled in New England,

903
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 5: but I can't say that I enjoyed what was a

904
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 5: great Super Bowl because you know you're you're living and

905
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 5: dying with every down.

906
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 8: It was and to be there, I'll give you a

907
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 8: sense it was probably about sixty five percent uh to

908
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 8: thirty five percent Eagles fans there, And you're right, the

909
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 8: ebb and flow and when when the Patriots take the

910
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 8: lead in the fourth quarter, every Eagles fan is get

911
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 8: gets that feeling it's happening again. We're not going to win,

912
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 8: We're going to be We're going to finish in second again,

913
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 8: and it's for them to come back and do what

914
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 8: they did. It's there's you know, you're right. In the

915
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 8: sports world, this is this is what it's all about,

916
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 8: is the emotions and the things that we feel and

917
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 8: the experiences we get to uh we get to have

918
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 8: and you just never know. That's what makes sports so great.

919
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 8: There's no finality to it until there's zeros on the

920
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 8: clock and you just you know, it's it was heart wrenching.

921
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 8: I mean, I really there were moments there that I

922
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 8: felt like I need in a brown paper bag.

923
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 7: Well, Steve, I've been I've been in the avocado room

924
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 7: with you many many times, and you're like one of

925
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 7: the biggest maybe the biggest sports fan I know, So

926
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 7: that must have been an unbelievable feeling seeing you guys

927
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 7: beat the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl Championship. Congrats, man,

928
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 7: What do you think about the future of this team?

929
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 7: You know, this coach Peterson seems like he's something else. Man.

930
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 8: It fans are I think we're going to start? We

931
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 8: believe that we have a future. That it may not

932
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 8: equal what the Patriots have done in the dynasty they created,

933
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 8: because it's just impossible to do that in sports, but

934
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 8: we believe with Carson Wentz coming back, that there's potential

935
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 8: for us to get back to a super Bowl, that

936
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 8: we could be in the super Bowl next year. But

937
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 8: reality is, it's really hard to get just to get

938
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 8: to the super Bowl, let alone win it. But we believe,

939
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 8: I mean a lot of people outside of Philadelphia, Kenny,

940
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 8: don't realize what the Eagles actually went through to actually

941
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 8: get here. They lost what was an their MVP candidate quarterback,

942
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 8: We lost an All Pro left tackle, we lost our

943
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 8: starting middle linebacker, we lost our best special teams player,

944
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 8: we lost Darren Sprolls, we lost our kicker before the

945
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 8: season even started, and all of that and they still

946
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 8: go on to win the Super Bowl is remarkable. So

947
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 8: when you think that we're going to get some of

948
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 8: these pieces back. To answer your question, the future is

949
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 8: really bright for Eagles football.

950
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 5: So your son Luke trains jiu jitsu, right, So the

951
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 5: least you can do, right, you make him do jiu

952
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 5: jitsu like seven days a week. The least you can

953
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 5: do is take him to the goddamn parade.

954
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 6: It's Thursday in Philadelphia.

955
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 5: I know you have to be in Los Angeles for

956
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: the UFC two twenty one shows this weekend at Fox.

957
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 5: But I don't know, Man, My best experience as a

958
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: sportsman was not at a game. It was at that first

959
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: Patriot Super Bowl parade. I mean, does Luke get to go?

960
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 6: What are we doing?

961
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 7: If he's going to the parade, you better know jiu

962
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 7: jitsu as well, STEVEYA.

963
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 8: That's you see, and you're actually right, kay what I

964
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 8: think last night from the Philadelphia fan, I just don't

965
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 8: get it. I don't understand the mentality of if you

966
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 8: win a championship, let's burn things and turn cars over

967
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 8: and loot and do everything. I don't understand that mentality.

968
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 8: But that's unfortunately Philadelphia to a key. So answering your question,

969
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 8: I'm staying as far away from Philadelphia on Thursday as

970
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 8: I possibly can.

971
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 5: Oh man, all right, well, if I wasn't going to Perth,

972
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 5: maybe I would take Luke.

973
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 3: Now.

974
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 5: Of course, I don't want to be anywhere near Broad

975
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 5: Street on Thursday. Hey man, sincerely, though, congratulations and thank

976
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: you for everything you do for the UFC and for

977
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 5: Fox and obviously for this podcast. Man, we appreciate you

978
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 5: mostly largely today, we are happy for you, and we

979
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: just wanted five minutes of your time.

980
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 6: So thank you.

981
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 8: I appreciate you guys having me. It's an honor. I

982
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 8: am so happy for you guys and being able to

983
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 8: get this on Fox Sports now. And you know I'm

984
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 8: fans of both of yours, you know, uh, you know,

985
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 8: But so I understand if the interview is wrapping up,

986
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 8: but we're not gonna talk to UFC at all.

987
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I mean we we take your thoughts

988
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 5: on macheetah Anders if you've got I mean, you want

989
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 5: to give us a pick on Romero rock Hold, I mean,

990
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: Luke's the favorite right now. Minus one forty will take

991
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 5: as much of your time as you got.

992
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 8: I will, uh, I will leave you with this. I

993
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 8: believe the best thing that happened to Luke Rockhold was

994
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 8: was Robert Whittaker pulling out of the fight, getting this

995
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 8: matchup with with Yoel Romero.

996
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 9: Uh.

997
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 8: Luke's gonna uh he will win the interim titled back.

998
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 8: I think he will beat Romero uh, and then we

999
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 8: will get to see what he can do against Robert Whittaker.

1000
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 8: But I'd like to just see both guys at some

1001
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 8: point in the call out Michael Disping. I mean, that's

1002
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 8: what it's all about. There's nothing better to me than

1003
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 8: hearing Yoel Romeroy.

1004
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 7: I'm telling you, I love you.

1005
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 5: By Bisbey is going to be three years retired, sitting

1006
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 5: on a TV set with a fucking eye patch and

1007
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 5: people be calling him out. You know, Hey, Steve, I

1008
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 5: love you. Thank you for the time. I have a

1009
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 5: great week. We'll talk to you soon, all right.

1010
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 8: Thanks guys, enjoy the fights this weekend, and I know

1011
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 8: I will talk and see both of you soon.

1012
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 5: That's a right the man, Steve Becker Fox, vice president

1013
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: of Production for the UFC, And just amazing for some

1014
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: of these people, right you just and you get to

1015
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: the super Bowl and it's just there's no guarantee. And

1016
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 5: this has been a little bit therapeutic for me today.

1017
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: I think to hear some of these stories from these

1018
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: Eagles fans, you know, because on the other side of this, right, Kenny,

1019
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 5: We've been on the other side of this, waking up

1020
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 5: three Monday mornings. Kh is losing Super Bowls and it's

1021
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 5: not like, oh I wish they had lost to Jacksonville,

1022
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: but uh, just nothing fun about it. Man, talking to

1023
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 5: my sixty six year old mother this morning, you know

1024
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 5: that ain't fun.

1025
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 6: But good stuff there from Steve Becker.

1026
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 5: All right, A few other things on Macheetah and Anders.

1027
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 5: Valentina Chevchenko in the co main event a winner by

1028
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 5: rear naked choke against Priscilla Kachoeida. Mismatch doesn't really even

1029
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 5: begin to describe it, Kenny. I know we referenced it

1030
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 5: earlier on I think big picture this is less about

1031
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: what happened Saturday night and more about the fact that

1032
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 5: chef Chenko is probably going to be a similarly priced

1033
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 5: favorite minus nine hundred minus one thousand if her next

1034
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 5: fight is for the UFC Flyway title.

1035
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, absolutely. She just has way too much experience.

1036
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 7: She has a skill set that is very dangerous. At

1037
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty five pounds. I don't know if

1038
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 7: anyone's gonna beat her, To be honest, who's gonna beat her?

1039
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 7: She looked phenomenal. She was a completely different class than

1040
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 7: Priscilla Kashuweeda. And you know, man, it was a beatdown,

1041
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 7: plain and simple. And listen, you know, for for the

1042
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 7: matchmakers in the UFC, it is not the easiest of jobs.

1043
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 7: And when you talk about the women's divisions, there's just

1044
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 7: not a whole lot of great matchups to be candid,

1045
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 7: so you're gonna get one. You know, some of these

1046
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 7: wrong every once in a while, but you know, as

1047
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 7: far as you know the fault and everything of what

1048
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 7: happened out there, you know, Mariyamasaki just consistently is just

1049
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 7: not a good referee. I don't know what has happened.

1050
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 7: I don't know, if you know, maybe he was trying

1051
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 7: to support the Brazilian fans, the Brazilian fighters and kind

1052
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 7: of seeing if there's gonna be a comeback here. But

1053
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 7: you can't do that. You can't have your fighter or

1054
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 7: a fighter in the UFC go out there and take

1055
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 7: a beating like that. You have to stop the fight

1056
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 7: a lot earlier. And the same kind of blame and

1057
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 7: Faul goes to the corner of Priscilla cushawaya. She wasn't

1058
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 7: gonna win that fight. If you know the fight game,

1059
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 7: you see the way it was materializing, how Valentina was

1060
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 7: basically having her way with Priscilla. You gotta protect your fighter,

1061
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 7: protect her, let her fight another day. She was being

1062
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 7: outmatched in a lot of time, our pride as corner

1063
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 7: men get involved in prevent that towel from getting thrown

1064
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 7: into the octagon. But teams just have to do a

1065
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 7: better job about really protecting their fighter. And it was

1066
00:47:54,920 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 7: unfortunate to see. But thankfully Priscilla is fine. And you know,

1067
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 7: I think for Valentina that's the future champ right there,

1068
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 7: no doubt about it.

1069
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 5: No, you hit on a lot of good stuff there.

1070
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 5: And Yamasaki you know, good guy, right, I mean we both.

1071
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 7: Know, well he's a great guy.

1072
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's he just seems to be a little

1073
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: bit in his own head, right in these situations where

1074
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: ninety nine out of one hundred people are looking at

1075
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 5: an action and thinking, Okay, the outcome here is an eventuality,

1076
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 5: Just stop the fight, right, And whether it's because she

1077
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 5: was Brazilian or he wanted to give her every benefit

1078
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 5: of every doubt. I mean, you know she's getting beaten

1079
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 5: down by a minus twelve hundred favorite. You know, only

1080
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 5: once in calling, however, many UFC shows I've done over

1081
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 5: one hundred and twenty at this point, only once have

1082
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 5: I stood up and said, like, stop the fight as

1083
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 5: I was calling something.

1084
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 6: I think it was Australia.

1085
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 5: I think the referee in question might have been John Sharp,

1086
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: maybe stepe A, Mio Chichen, Mark Concat.

1087
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 7: I don't call that, but yeah, I remember talking about that. Yeah,

1088
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 7: that was not a good one either. But you know, listen,

1089
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 7: referees are gonna make mistakes, but when you see a

1090
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Speaker 7: referee that's doing consistently and again, as you mentioned, Maria

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00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 7: Amasaki a guy who we both know very well. He

1092
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 7: is a guy who gave a black belt to my cousin.

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Speaker 7: So I have known Mario and Fernando for a long time.

1094
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 7: But you know, when you're talking about someone's life in

1095
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 7: the octagon, it needs to be taken very seriously. And

1096
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 7: this is not a shot at Mario. He just needs

1097
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 7: to know that he's got to protect these fighters way better.

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Speaker 7: You know, every shot that they take as a threat.

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Speaker 7: So it was unfortunate to see.

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Speaker 5: Did you see Tiago Santos and Anthony Smith, by the way,

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00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 5: I missed that one, So it was the fight of

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00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: the night. It was the first fight, I believe on

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00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: the main car. And all I want to say about

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00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 5: that is that, I mean lion heart Anthony Smith, toughness

1105
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 5: off the charts, so much respect for him as a

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00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 5: fighter and as a guy. Dude, if I'm about one

1107
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty five pounds and I'm a contender like

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Speaker 5: Thiago Maheta Santos is the last guy I want to see,

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Speaker 5: You're going to really like this knockout too. I mean

1110
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 5: he he curved his toes like right.

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Speaker 7: I saw the knocker. I saw the knockout man. I

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Speaker 7: didn't see the fight, but it was a brutal one

1113
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 7: man digging those toes into the side of the liver.

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Speaker 7: Never a good feeling. And Anthony Smith one of the

1115
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 7: toughest men that you've seen him in comeback after comeback

1116
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 7: in his UFC career. This is a guy who was

1117
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 7: as tough as nails. But when you hit the body

1118
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 7: just right, it doesn't matter how tough you are, you

1119
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 7: can't breathe. You're curling into a ball and that's it.

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Speaker 7: It was over. And he kept trying to fight through

1121
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 7: it but just wasn't enough. He was taking shots and

1122
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 7: they did the right things, stopping the fight.

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Speaker 5: Siago Maheta Santo's fourth consecutive win. He like scraped his

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Speaker 5: toes across the organ. I mean, you could just tell

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Speaker 5: that even someone as tough as Anthony Smith is just

1126
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 5: not coming back from that. Yeah, So you know, I

1127
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 5: think the Sposely fight was a learning experience for Santos,

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Speaker 5: certainly the Musasi fight as well. And yes again I

1129
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 5: do think his better days at one hundred and eighty

1130
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 5: five pounds are ahead of him Physically, he continues to

1131
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 5: get stronger. So planning my flag on Thiago Maheta Santos

1132
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 5: so the weight cutting issues reared their ugly head once

1133
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 5: again here in Ballet Brazil. Kenny So Michelle Prizadish. We

1134
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 5: talked last week about this guy being twenty three and

1135
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: two and having won five in a row. We didn't

1136
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 5: mentions his issues cutting weight. So he beats Desmond Green

1137
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 5: here unanimous decision thirty twenty seven times two in a

1138
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 5: twenty nine to twenty eight, but he missed weight for

1139
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 5: the third time in the last four fights at one

1140
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty five pounds, all of them wins.

1141
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 6: He's won six in a row.

1142
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 5: As I mentioned twenty four and two now Kenny we

1143
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 5: called his UFC debut. It was twenty thirteen against paul

1144
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 5: O Tiago at welterweight. Since all nine of Prisadis's fights

1145
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: have been at one hundred and fifty five pounds, maybe

1146
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 5: one of them was a catchweight in there, if my

1147
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 5: memory serves, because he didn't make weight. But I mean,

1148
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 5: come on, man, like we have talked about this fighter

1149
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 5: being underappreciated and he can't make the weight. I mean,

1150
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 5: so for my money, next fight has got to be

1151
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: at welterweight. And this was a stain on an otherwise

1152
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 5: pretty good week for the UFS.

1153
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 7: No, I agree, and listen, you're not going to hear,

1154
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 7: you know, any excuses for me or doesn't make weight.

1155
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 7: You know, things do happen. But when you're a guy

1156
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 7: who's consistently not making weight here and what the hell's

1157
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 7: going on? Either you're a professional or you're not. You know,

1158
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 7: if there's any good news is that forty percent of

1159
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 7: his purse did go to Desmond Green. I thought Desmond Green,

1160
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 7: as far as the fight went, showed a lot of heart,

1161
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 7: showed some good scrambling ability. Uh and Preserus, you know,

1162
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 7: put him in some really bad spots. I thought Prezeras

1163
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 7: should have got you know, a finish at least one

1164
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 7: out of the three times that it looked like he

1165
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 7: was going to get a submission on Desmond Green was

1166
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 7: not as technical with his finishing ability. But you know,

1167
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 7: think about the disadvantage when you're going against a guy

1168
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 7: who didn't make the actual weight and he was going

1169
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 7: in there with you know, he's already going in there

1170
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 7: with a huge weight advantage on fight night, right, and

1171
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 7: then to give me advantage on the scale as well.

1172
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 7: It's bullshit, to be honest, and for Prezire's he's got

1173
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 7: to get his act together man that that is not

1174
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 7: how professional fighter behaves.

1175
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 5: And I guess there might have been some verbal agreement

1176
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: in place whereby Prizetis couldn't have entered the octagon at

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00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 5: anything north of one hundred and seventy three pounds. I

1178
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 5: don't have to tell you that that was unrealistic, and

1179
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: I think Green pushed out that he was north of

1180
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 5: one to eighty, so we'll see how they proceed with

1181
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 5: Michelle Prizettish. Obviously there's had a lot of success at

1182
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 5: fifty five, but a lot of big boys up there

1183
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy pounds where I think he has

1184
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 5: to go from here now. Pedro Muno's missed weight as well.

1185
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 5: I think he blamed the hot water situation in belaying

1186
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 5: And I understand, Kenny. A lot of fighters need hot water,

1187
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 5: especially down the stretch, guys who are calculated and manage their.

1188
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 6: Weight the right way.

1189
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 5: But I just I still think there's criticism to be

1190
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 5: levied at fighter and camp. You know, we remember a

1191
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 5: situation with Hanni Marx. I believe it was who was

1192
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 5: going to a sauna at a different hotel because our

1193
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 5: hotel in Brazil several years ago didn't have a sauna.

1194
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 5: I guess they got in a car accident. He hit

1195
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 5: his head on the windshield and couldn't fight. There have

1196
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: been issues in Brazil. I've been there twenty five times.

1197
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 5: Those are well documented, I think at this point in time.

1198
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Speaker 5: But Kenny, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. If

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Speaker 5: you're a fighter who is American based, as Pedro Munoz is,

1200
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 5: and you're fighting internationally.

1201
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 6: You got to get ahead of it.

1202
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: And ultimately, at the end of the day, you're in

1203
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 5: a co main event in a big spot.

1204
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 6: You can't blame the walk.

1205
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 7: No doubt. You have to plan for these things. This

1206
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 7: isn't Pedro Munnis's first UFC fight. And I know Pedro.

1207
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 7: He's a great kid. He trains real hard. He's a

1208
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 7: guy who's an honest and true professional. But this is

1209
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 7: one of those things where Pedro and his team are

1210
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 7: at fault here. You know, Dan Gable, the legendary freestyle wrestler,

1211
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 7: used to have a policy when he was coaching over

1212
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 7: at IOWA that were if you were fifteen minutes early,

1213
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 7: you were on time. Anything past that, you were late.

1214
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 7: And what it did is it teaches you about discipline.

1215
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 7: It teaches you about being a professional. You have to

1216
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 7: anticipate these kind of things. You can't go in there,

1217
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 7: you know, last minute and go, oh, there's no hot

1218
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 7: water in the hotel. Guess what, there's saunas. Why don't

1219
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 7: you have a plan for a sauna. That's how I

1220
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 7: used to cut weight, That's all a lot of other

1221
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 7: people cut weight. So yeah, maybe there wasn't hot water

1222
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 7: in the tug where you can cut weight maybe a

1223
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 7: little easier or whatever, but get your ass to asana

1224
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 7: prepare for that well, right, right, So it's just it's

1225
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 7: just a thing, you know, as a coach, as a fighter,

1226
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 7: you got to be a professional on the way you

1227
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 7: handle things. And if you lackadaisical about one thing, you're

1228
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 7: gonna be lackadaisical about a lot of other things. How

1229
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 7: you do one thing, you do everything, and that's what

1230
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 7: a professional fighter or any professional athlete needs remind themselves.

1231
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 5: Yep, No, I couldn't agree with you more, man, And

1232
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 5: I'm running out of sympathy, right And I always tell people,

1233
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, Kenny Flooria made one hundred and forty

1234
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 5: five pounds, like twice, I don't want to hear, you know.

1235
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 5: And that's really my thesis statement on the whole thing.

1236
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 5: And because when you talk to the majority of this roster,

1237
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 5: they feel like what happened this weekend is inexcusable, even

1238
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 5: though there were some variables in Brazil.

1239
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 6: So again, we love all these guys.

1240
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 5: Pedro Muno's outstanding human being, outstanding fighter. But I don't

1241
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 5: blame John Dotson, you know, for not wanting to take

1242
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 5: what would have amounted to a featherweight fight for him.

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Speaker 5: thirty thirty. All right, UFC twenty one this weekend Perth

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Speaker 5: in Western Australia.

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Speaker 6: Let's make some picks.

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00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: It's the main event challenge and the.

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Speaker 6: Time is most definitely I finished.

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Speaker 13: Fine, how do you everything.

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00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 4: Possible to win the main event Challenge? John Nnick and

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00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 4: Kenny Florian podcast.

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00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 5: All right, so Team Anic led Team Florian eight three

1275
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 5: going into the Machiedah versus Anders show. So you went

1276
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 5: head to head with amateur mixed martial arts fighter and

1277
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Speaker 5: ANAK and Florian podcast listener Will Coggan.

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Speaker 6: You and I also gave our Super Bowl picks, if

1279
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Speaker 6: you recall.

1280
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Speaker 5: So you did beat Will head to head three two

1281
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Though I had the Eagles underdogs, you had

1282
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 5: the Patriots. I shouldn't take the two points, but I'm

1283
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 5: gonna take him. It's enough to take the week four

1284
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 5: to three. So the standings read Team Annik twelve, Team

1285
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 5: Florian six heading into UFC two twenty one, and you

1286
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 5: know we bring in the big guns for all pay

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Speaker 5: per views to that end. Handy Kapper to the stars,

1288
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Speaker 5: sharp MMA, A guy I know who puts in the

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Speaker 5: are you this morning, sir?

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Speaker 9: Doing great? John Happy to share a little time with you.

1293
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Speaker 5: And Kenny, and I thank you for it. I apologize

1294
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 5: for keeping you on Hope for a couple of minutes.

1295
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 5: So your last name on paper just kills me right

1296
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: Like I pride myself on my pronunciations, and I see

1297
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Speaker 5: your last name on paper and it gives me anxiety.

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00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 5: So I mean, are you one of those handicappers that

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Speaker 5: doesn't even like the surname out there? Or can you

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00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 5: tell me once again how we're pronouncing this thing?

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00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 9: Thank you so much. Actually, I would spell it phonetically

1302
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 9: for you, because that's how most people end up pronouncing it.

1303
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 9: And it's f I n O finno c A r

1304
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 9: O caro So Lou finnacio.

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00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 6: Oh easy enough?

1306
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 7: All right?

1307
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: Well you Lou.

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00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 5: You know I respect your opinion and that's why I

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00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 5: have you on for a big show like this. So

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Speaker 5: today three main car predictions. We also have two quick

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00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 5: picks on the way out. Let's start with this main

1312
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 5: card bout here, fellas at welter Wait. So back in

1313
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 5: late November, you may recall the UFC in Shanghai for

1314
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 5: the first time, and the show's biggest Chinese star really

1315
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 5: by a mile, stole the show. It was Lee jing

1316
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 5: Liong knocked out zach Otto in the Komin event, good

1317
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 5: enough for his fourth straight win, three of those by knockout.

1318
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 6: And now the Leech returns here relatively quickly.

1319
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 5: He's the minus two to ten favorite on the road

1320
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 5: against the plus one eighty underdog Jake Matthews. Matthew's coming

1321
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 5: off a November split decision win over bo Yon Valichkovich

1322
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 5: to end a two fight skid. Solu good fight here

1323
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 5: at one hundred and seventy pounds. You go in with

1324
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 5: the favorite, Lee jing Liong or the dog, Jake Matthews.

1325
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 9: I'm gonna start right out with the hometown kid as

1326
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 9: an underdog. I think his last fight against the Looshovich

1327
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 9: was positive and Jing Liang, the style of fight he brings,

1328
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 9: you can only bring it so long, even though he's,

1329
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 9: you know, just twenty eight years old. I think there's

1330
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 9: where on those tires and this is a good spot

1331
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 9: for Jake Mathews.

1332
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, no doubt there is where on those tires and

1333
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 5: aesthetically it's a great style to watch. Lee Jingle Young,

1334
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 5: Jake Matthews kid, who do you like?

1335
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 7: Ken Well? For Jing Leung, I think on the feet

1336
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 7: he's got the advantage. This is a guy who really

1337
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 7: can crack. But I think for Matthews, I think he's

1338
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 7: going to play it smart. I think he will be

1339
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 7: bullied by his home crowd or home country, I should say.

1340
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 7: And I think Matthews is going to have a huge

1341
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 7: advantage if this fight hits the ground. I think you

1342
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 7: should be able to get the submission, no problem. I'll

1343
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 7: go with Matthews here as.

1344
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 5: Well, physical kid, and I know he's had He's been

1345
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 5: up and down a little bit and down at times

1346
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: in Australia. Jake Matthews figures to be pretty motivated and

1347
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 5: hungry going in there against the leech, who obviously has

1348
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 5: a lot of momentum.

1349
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 6: All right, co main event here lou at heavyweight.

1350
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 5: So Curtis Blades at least the number I checked this

1351
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 5: morning minus one sixty here against Mark Hunt, who is

1352
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 5: in the plus one forty range at least at the

1353
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 5: beginning of fight week. So hunto or Blades for you?

1354
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 5: Lou pretty close fight here on paper.

1355
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 9: Yes, track age difference in the UFC. With age difference

1356
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 9: of greater than five years, sixty two percent of the

1357
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 9: younger fighters win in the UFC. Tracking do its history,

1358
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 9: and if you separate it to over one hundred and

1359
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 9: seventy pounds, then at sixty five percent. Hunts forty two

1360
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 9: years old, Blades twenty seven. And I think Blades cut

1361
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 9: his teeth with Naganu. And I really think that Blades

1362
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 9: is in a really good spot and this is a

1363
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 9: bad spot for a proud warrior. Mark Hunt.

1364
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 5: All right, so Curtis Blades, and I love the numbers too.

1365
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 5: I don't know if Mark Hunt Kenny is the oldest

1366
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 5: fighter on the roster. I'm being told he was born

1367
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy four March, so coming up on birthday

1368
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 5: number forty four. Still obviously a lot of game, a

1369
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 5: lot of experience, and this will not be a five

1370
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 5: rounder for Mark Hunt. You going Curtis Blades or the

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01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 5: underdog mock Hunt.

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01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 7: This is a tough one, man, this really is. I

1373
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 7: think Curtis Blades, I think he has a lot of potential.

1374
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 7: I still think he has a lot to learn, however,

1375
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 7: especially when it comes to this striking game, and you know,

1376
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 7: getting a clean takedown on someone like Mark Hunt is

1377
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 7: not an easy thing to do. This guy is built

1378
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 7: like a backyard shit. I mean, how do you double

1379
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 7: leg of backyard shed? He's wide, he's low to the ground.

1380
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 7: He knows how to move. Yes, still at forty two

1381
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 7: years old, he can still move. I think he definitely

1382
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 7: has the power advantage. It's tough, you know, even you know,

1383
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 7: I talked to one of his coaches on the bus

1384
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 7: one time and he said, you know what, we never

1385
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 7: know what Mark Hunt We're going to see. He could

1386
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 7: have the best camp and then maybe not have the

1387
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 7: best performance on fight night. He could have a terrible

1388
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 7: camp and then go out there and have the best

1389
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 7: performance of his career. You just never know. I am

1390
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 7: going to go with Mark Hunt here. I think he

1391
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 7: finds a way to get the knockout.

1392
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 5: And again, in our scoring system, you can do worse

1393
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 5: than that. Plus one forty there with Mark Hunt blades

1394
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 5: if you're curious. Unbeaten by the way, dating to that

1395
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 5: UFCDA against Francis sin Gano and a big TKO for

1396
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 5: him against Alexiolenic last November at UFC two seventeen, all right,

1397
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 5: main event for the UFC's Interim Midway Championship. So Yoel

1398
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 5: Romero gets the red corner here, but he will be

1399
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 5: the slight underdog at least right now plus one ten

1400
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 5: Luke Rockold minus one forty.

1401
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 6: Last fight for Yoel all the way.

1402
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 5: Back on July eighth, unanimous decision, lost to Robert Whitaker.

1403
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 6: That, of course, is who he replaces here against rock Hold.

1404
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 5: Last appearance for him September a win over David Branch.

1405
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 5: So lude this is the main event championship stakes. We

1406
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 5: will also need the round and the method of victory.

1407
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 5: Lou the floor is yours, my friend, Thank.

1408
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 9: You very much again. Rock Hold thirty two, Romero forty

1409
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 9: one this April. So there's the five year difference as well.

1410
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 9: Fighters with a greater than two inch reach advantage and

1411
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 9: seemingly stand up affairs win sixty one percent of the time,

1412
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 9: so I anticipate a stand up war. Romero has been

1413
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 9: hesitant to use his wrestling in past five I like

1414
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 9: rock Hold length his youth. They're both lefties, and I

1415
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 9: look for rock Hold to press this fight and take

1416
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 9: you l Romero deep where those big huge forty one

1417
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 9: year old muscles are gonna eventually ache and need oxygen

1418
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 9: that he's gonna swell up, get slowed down. And so

1419
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 9: I'll say rock Hold TKO round five.

1420
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 6: Rock Hole TKO round five.

1421
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 5: Ken flow can speak to some of those forty one

1422
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 5: year old muscles. So though, I gotta say, man, been

1423
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 5: hitting at my Rocky BJJ Hart, You look like you're

1424
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 5: getting in really good shape.

1425
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 7: I don't know about that rounds of shape. Uh So, yeah,

1426
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 7: if you're talking about that, maybe listen man, I uh,

1427
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 7: I don't know about this fight. This is a tough

1428
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 7: one for me. Romero definitely has knockout power. When you

1429
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 7: got a guy like Luke Rockhold who gets lazy with

1430
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 7: that lead hand of his, it's a problem, but it's

1431
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 7: particularly a problem against a right handed fighter. Romero, as

1432
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 7: Lew said, is a self paw. I think also rock

1433
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 7: Hold does very well against guys who try to take

1434
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 7: him down. He knows how to defend takedowns extremely well.

1435
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 7: Of course, training at AK for all those years against

1436
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 7: guys like Kane Velaskaz and Daniel Cormier and all the

1437
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 7: great wrestlers that have been over there, he knows what

1438
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 7: to do up against the cage, he knows how to

1439
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 7: stop takedowns. He has an excellent ground game as well.

1440
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 7: I don't know. I think early on Romero is gonna

1441
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 7: be extremely dangerous. This is a guy who absolutely can

1442
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 7: knock out anyone in that division, not only with his

1443
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 7: overhand left, but with that flying knee. He also kicks

1444
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 7: extremely well, and his rhythm changes can really throw you

1445
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 7: off as a fighter. However, I think rock Hold's experience,

1446
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 7: his ability to go five hard rounds, will be the difference.

1447
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the TKO for rock Hole, but round.

1448
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 5: Four, round four TKO for Luke Rockold. And I didn't

1449
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 5: mean to stonewall you on that round as a shape.

1450
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 5: I just it took me a minute to get that

1451
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 5: that was round as a shape. I just was thinking

1452
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 5: like boxing rounds MMA on. So that's funny. I didn't

1453
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 5: mean to just leave you hanging there a go. All right,

1454
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: So good stuff there. Now a couple quick picks on

1455
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 5: the way out feature about here at heavyweight tie to

1456
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 5: Evasa and Cyril Ascare minus three thirty for two Evasa

1457
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 5: Ascare at plus two seventy lou who will it.

1458
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 9: Be for the record, Yeah, Tuivasa?

1459
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 5: All right, too Ivasa For Lou Kenny, you're going with

1460
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 5: the favorite shock to Evasa.

1461
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 6: Or do you like Ascare in the upset?

1462
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 7: I'm going with TWI Vasa as well, all right?

1463
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 5: And then finally guys light heavyweight. This will kick off

1464
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 5: the main card Tyson Pedro minus two sixty the comeback

1465
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 5: on Saperbag Saffarrov plus two to twenty.

1466
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 6: Lou, who will it be? My friend?

1467
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, we just saw setup fights in Brazil. I think

1468
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 9: this These are setup fights designed to make the local good.

1469
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 9: I'll take Pedro.

1470
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't disagree with you there, all right, Ken Flow,

1471
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 5: what do you think Pedro here or uh Saparbag Saffarrov.

1472
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think Pedro is well. This guy can crack.

1473
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 7: I think he probably gets to knock out here already.

1474
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 5: The fourth UFC fight in sixteen months on the roster

1475
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 5: for Tyson, Pedro and Saffarrov stop by John Belonte and

1476
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: his only UFC appearance that was back in December of

1477
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. All Right, that is it for the UFC

1478
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 5: two twenty one picks. On Twitter, you can find him

1479
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 5: at Gamblue gamblue dot com. Lou Fincaro buddy, thank you

1480
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 5: for the time. And the insight.

1481
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 6: We will talk to you soon. Enjoy the pay per view.

1482
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 9: Thank you so much. Always appreciate it, gentlemen.

1483
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 7: Thanks Lou.

1484
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 5: Interesting numbers when it comes to the age there. It's

1485
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 5: something that I don't often look at, right, and maybe

1486
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 5: it's something that we should pay more attention to. So

1487
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 5: good stuff there at Gamblue to follow his predictions on Twitter.

1488
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 5: A lot of these guys Mma Capper's out there, few

1489
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 5: as sharp as Gamblue, So good stuff from him today.

1490
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 5: All right, So, Kenny, just final thoughts on UFC two

1491
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 5: to twenty one this weekend. We're going to bring on

1492
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 5: Longo here in a couple of minutes. It's interesting here

1493
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 5: because Rockold is minus one forty and yol Romeros at

1494
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 5: plus one ten. Now, Lou really liked Rockhold at plus

1495
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 5: one sixty or so in that Whittaker matchup here, But

1496
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 5: I think most people believe that this is a more

1497
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 5: favorable matchup for Luke Rockold than that Whittaker fight would

1498
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 5: have been, at least for right now.

1499
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 7: Without a doubt, you know, And if we can kind

1500
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 7: of isolate it to two singular weapons, you know, that

1501
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 7: Whittaker left hook, that's one of the best weapons in

1502
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 7: the middleweight division, and of course with rock Hold, you

1503
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 7: know who holds that right hand really low, too low

1504
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 7: for my liking. You know that that's a dangerous thing

1505
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 7: to do against someone like Whitaker. So I didn't love

1506
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 7: that matchup for Luke Rockold. And I also think he

1507
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 7: was at a speed disadvantage in that fight, So yeah,

1508
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 7: it would have been tough. Would have been tough fight

1509
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 7: for him. I do like this fight a little bit

1510
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 7: better for him here against Romero. I think Romero is

1511
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 7: still going to be very strong. I still think he'll

1512
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 7: be able to hit some takedowns. I don't know if

1513
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 7: he wants to do too much on the ground with

1514
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 7: someone like rock Hold. Rock Hold does have a decent guard,

1515
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 7: but certainly doesn't want to be on his back against

1516
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 7: someone like Luke Rockold, so he wants to avoid any

1517
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 7: type of reversals or sweeps from Rockold or any of

1518
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 7: those transitional submission attempts that he likes to hit. You're

1519
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 7: talking about the guillotine or triangles whatever. He's got those

1520
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 7: long legs. So for Romero, I think he does have

1521
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 7: to be careful on the ground. Maybe hitting takedowns late

1522
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 7: in the round would serve him well. He does have

1523
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 7: to pace himself. We saw him gas against Whittaker, you know,

1524
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 7: decided to kind of play off of his back against Whittaker,

1525
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 7: which wasn't a good idea. Just you could see he

1526
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 7: just let that fight slip away from him. Now did

1527
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 7: he learn from that fight? Perhaps, But I still think

1528
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 7: going five hard rounds is gonna be tough. We've seen

1529
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 7: rock Cold go five rounds a few times in his

1530
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 7: career over in the Over and Strike Force, and some

1531
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 7: tough fights against Jock Array and Tim Kennedy. So I

1532
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 7: think he's got to use his link here. He's got

1533
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 7: to keep Romero on the outside. I would imagine that

1534
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 7: he will attack that body a lot with that front

1535
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 7: kick going right down the middle, then switch things up

1536
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 7: with a high kick upstairs against Romero, and he should

1537
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 7: use that lead kick, you know, because both of these

1538
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 7: guys are south pause. I think rock Hold needs to

1539
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 7: use that lead right leg a lot more. Basically go

1540
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 7: left hand lead right kick upstairs to try to catch

1541
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 7: for Merril slipping. And of course he's got to stop

1542
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 7: those takedowns.

1543
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 6: This is great.

1544
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 5: I've been taking notes the whole time, and now I

1545
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 5: don't have to watch any film, so I appreciate that.

1546
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 5: Hope the listeners found it as useful as I did. Also,

1547
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 5: I think interesting, Kenny, a lot of the American fighters

1548
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 5: and the fighters not based in Australia have.

1549
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 6: Gotten there early, right.

1550
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm taping a pre fight hit at six

1551
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 5: fifteen am, you know what I mean. So it's a

1552
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 5: different animal some of these fighters. I think first fight

1553
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 5: might be seven thirty in the morning. So hopefully fighters

1554
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 5: have made that adjustment and tried to get ahead of it.

1555
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 5: All right, one final order of business, let's get to

1556
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 5: Ray Longo.

1557
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes, and.

1558
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 7: I'm got to punch a hole in this fucking step spot.

1559
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 4: That's what I wanted the Ray long Go minute during

1560
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 4: Ray long John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1561
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 5: So, as most of you were watching the Super Bowl

1562
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 5: last night, Ray Long Go spent two hours in a

1563
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 5: private room saluting the flag of the United States of America.

1564
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 13: Exactly. You must have heard me. You're still on my material.

1565
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 6: I was listening, Exactly.

1566
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 5: I had to go back to episode one one to say,

1567
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 5: is that what he said that he's gonna be so

1568
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 5: so you tell me you didn't watch a snap last night, right,

1569
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 5: not a snap?

1570
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 13: No, I didn't watch a snap.

1571
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 14: I actually was working out at the gym with a

1572
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 14: couple of people and they were people were update me.

1573
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 13: On what was going on.

1574
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 14: But I didn't watch anything, unfortunately, but I got a

1575
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 14: hold of my dues, got a hold of the guns.

1576
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 5: Well did you happen to see this Lioto Macheetah Eric

1577
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 5: Anders main event on Saturday night? Because you know, Brian

1578
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 5: Stan was on earlier and he was pretty critical of

1579
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 5: Anders's team for taking the fight in the UFC, for

1580
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 5: putting it together. You know, I said Anders went in

1581
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 5: about a three to one favorite. Macheetah was the guy

1582
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 5: who got knocked out a couple months ago. I thought

1583
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 5: there was upside to the fight with Anders, and I thought,

1584
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 5: you know, it was a pretty close fight over twenty

1585
01:11:58,960 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 5: five minutes.

1586
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's definitely.

1587
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 14: I mean, I definitely had Macheedah winning, but it was

1588
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 14: a close fight. And I don't I don't, I wouldn't.

1589
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 14: I didn't feel they should be criticized for making the fight.

1590
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 14: I mean, Macheetah's having a rough go and you know,

1591
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 14: like again I think they were talking about you think

1592
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 14: he can make a title run and I would I'm

1593
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 14: saying definitely not. I really like Macheata. He's a good guy.

1594
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,440
Speaker 14: I think he's one of the good guys in the sport.

1595
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 14: But I think his days are really really limited and

1596
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 14: kind of was like a perfect fight for him, you know,

1597
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 14: against a you know, a guy with not much experience.

1598
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 13: So I thought I thought it was I thought it

1599
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 13: was fair all the way around.

1600
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, Ray, good main event here in Perth, Australia. Two

1601
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 7: guys that you and Widman know very well, Romero and

1602
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 7: rock Hold. Who wins this fight?

1603
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 14: Uh, you know, I got to go with rock Hold

1604
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 14: on this. I think he will use his length. I

1605
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 14: think he knows how to you know, control that distance thing.

1606
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 14: I'm gonna say, if Romero wins, I would suspect it

1607
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 14: would be in the first round he catches him with

1608
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 14: something and he'll, you know, he's pretty explosive. But I

1609
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 14: think if it goes past round one and rock Cold

1610
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 14: gets to settle in, I think he probably can keep

1611
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 14: him at bay with the kicks. And I think I

1612
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 14: was listening to you right before this. Yeah, his I

1613
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 14: think his ground game is superb.

1614
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 8: Man.

1615
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, Chris is no slouch. On the floor.

1616
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 14: David Branch is no slatch on the floor and he

1617
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 14: was really successful, more than I thought he would be.

1618
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 13: So he's he's very dangerous on the floor. So I

1619
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 13: don't know.

1620
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 14: Like again, Romero always has that chance of exploding with

1621
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 14: something and catching them. But outside of that, I don't

1622
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 14: think he could outpoint him. I think rock Gold will

1623
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 14: be busier. I think he's gonna probably control the center

1624
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 14: of the octagon and he gets.

1625
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 13: The he gets to win.

1626
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 5: See if I'm an MMA better And I hear Kenny

1627
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 5: pick rock Hold and I hear long ago who has

1628
01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 5: trained Chris Widman one and a half time to fight

1629
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,799
Speaker 5: rock Hold, and of course the training camp for Yoel Romero.

1630
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 5: You know, I'm probably pausing the podcast and placing a bet.

1631
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 5: A lot of sharp minds today liking Luke Crockold in

1632
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 5: that minus one forty range. All right, final thing, Chris

1633
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 5: Watman has his own show now on MSG and are

1634
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 5: you a part of that?

1635
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 13: I'm not a part of it.

1636
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 14: I think he's doing something with the Islanders for the commentator.

1637
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 14: He's got a show. I know the Islanders. We're in

1638
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 14: here a couple of weeks ago and we had a

1639
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 14: lot of fun with him. I was here for that,

1640
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 14: but no, I'm not part of the part of that show.

1641
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 14: But he's he's a big hockey fan, and I think, yeah,

1642
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 14: I don't really know that much about it. Besides that,

1643
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 14: I think it's called Wide World of Wideman. Oh yeah,

1644
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 14: I think so. I'm not even sure if they came

1645
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 14: up they picked that name. I know that's in the running, but.

1646
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 13: It's definitely a show on MSG where he's interviewing the

1647
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 13: Islanders and he's part of that hockey thing for sure.

1648
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 5: All right, well get the name for us. That's your

1649
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 5: homework for next week and we'll plug it again.

1650
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 14: Always leaning towards wild, wild wide World.

1651
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 7: Of I like that.

1652
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, anything else? You sound like my four year old Jesus,

1653
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.

1654
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 6: There you go, are you?

1655
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 15: You know?

1656
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 7: Super? You gotta slap this guy?

1657
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 13: Yeah? You two communists. You're upset that your team lost, right.

1658
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, we are a little we're a little uh

1659
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 7: angry today.

1660
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you know.

1661
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1662
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 14: We had the first amateur ring of combat in New

1663
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 14: York uh over the weekend and uh all mm a

1664
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 14: guys had a clean sweep for the amateurs, which was cool.

1665
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 14: Let me tell you something when they played that national

1666
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 14: anthemn Wow, place was electric. Man, peop standing off the

1667
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 14: we're back and I think somebody said, where's Kaepernick and

1668
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 14: another guy said, I think he's taking a ship.

1669
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 13: But that's It was a great moment for the team.

1670
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 14: And man, I'll tell you that national anthem one of

1671
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 14: the big guys, big, oh, big everybody.

1672
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 5: I think next week we're just going to bring you

1673
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 5: in with the national anthem as the backdrop. I think

1674
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 5: you've earned as much. Thanks for bringing it as always,

1675
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 5: my man.

1676
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 13: Awesome buddy. All right, listen, guys, have a good time.

1677
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: You guys.

1678
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 13: Are you guys going to Australia.

1679
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, I leave Wednesday.

1680
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 5: I get there I think Saturday or Sunday, so uh

1681
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 5: looking forward to awesome buddy.

1682
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 13: Hey listen, have a great time, and uh we're on

1683
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:32,440
Speaker 13: for next Monday.

1684
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, thank you very much.

1685
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 13: Man can great Gray.

1686
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 6: He's banging on Colin Kaepernick.

1687
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 7: I gotta be careful, Ray, he's not scared of anything.

1688
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 5: Uh so we actually will not be on next Monday.

1689
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 5: Probably a good time to tell you that. I'll be

1690
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 5: on my way back from Perth. It's like thirty five

1691
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 5: hours door to door, so maybe Tuesday or Wednesday, definitely,

1692
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 5: though we'll be pushing out a fresh show next week

1693
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 5: because Serni and Maderis are coming up in Austin, Texas Sunday,

1694
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 5: February eighteenth, So we will be here, God willing, one

1695
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 5: way or another, maybe Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.

1696
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 5: That's all for today, Mercifully, we got through this Showken Flow.

1697
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 5: Thank you to our guest Brian Stan, Paul Felder, Steve Becker,

1698
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 5: Gamblu of course, Ray Longo. On the way out. You

1699
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 5: on the desk this weekend, kid, we just hit May

1700
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 5: Rocky Beach. Oh we are okay. Yeah, Paper, you're bringing

1701
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 5: a big gun, so you f C two twenty one.

1702
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 5: Ken Flow on the desk. Tell the wardrobe people at

1703
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 5: Fox you need the skinny suit. I can tell you

1704
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 5: need the skinny.

1705
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 7: Suit, skinny tie.

1706
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 6: Skinny tie.

1707
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 5: I don't think you'll become a father before we speak

1708
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 5: next week, but I wish you guys the best.

1709
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 7: You never know time, you never know. The wife, it

1710
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 7: seemed like the baby wanted to break out of prison

1711
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 7: this morning. She was banging on the door. I think,

1712
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 7: so yeah, we're getting close, man.

1713
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 5: Thank you all right, Well, I wish you all the

1714
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 5: best May ROCKYBJJ dot com. Don't forget that executive's class

1715
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 5: in the am thanks to our Fox Sports team, Ben Janko,

1716
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 5: Danny and everybody else. Neil Foley with that for the flow,

1717
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 5: I'm John Anick. As always, we appreciate y'all listening. We

1718
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 5: will talk to you in eight days or so. Until then, you'll.

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