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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is king in the North.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I have joined in

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, happy heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rosehal What is up boys? Hey? Dn Wow? Mark? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Sessler not my middle name, Mark, Edward Cessler. It

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Speaker 1: is a new day because Odell Beckham is a member

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Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. Maron. Not only that, Enya is

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Speaker 1: in the studio with this right now, come on in

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Speaker 1: and bring your heart vibrant and your knockoff. I would

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Speaker 1: call her Yah. Listen. This is a happy day in

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Speaker 1: this in the studio, especially for the long suffering brown fan,

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Speaker 1: the long suffering Jets fan. Let me break it down

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Speaker 1: like this, Mark. One days ago, the Browns drafted Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield first over my Jets. Look, Sam Donald, yesterday, Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham to the Browns, Levy on belt of the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Something's happening, my friend, Something's happening. I think if you

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Speaker 1: believe in this concept of football gods, that there's been

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Speaker 1: a shake up up in the world of football heaven

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Speaker 1: because there for a long standing time whoever was running

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Speaker 1: this show had a deep disdain for the two teams

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, and it seems to be turning a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I like the one reaction for me personally

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Speaker 1: because it's you know, it's I think, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a nice day in a way where you come to

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Speaker 1: work and like everyone's like, hey man, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 1: Like I'm so happy for you. It's like now on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: it's like I get it because you're you've followed a

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Speaker 1: team for so long and it's been so rough, and

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Speaker 1: it's become it's like a part of your whole experience here.

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Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know how to describe it. It's

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Speaker 1: sleeve for me, very bizarre to look at a roster that,

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Speaker 1: you know, we had a free agency show that West

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Speaker 1: just called the Brown's roster super Bowl worthy, which, um again,

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Speaker 1: I would feel it have to be in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the night in a dream to hear that happening.

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Speaker 1: That's very Browns and super Bowl in the same sentence.

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Speaker 1: It's the thing that's happening now. They are yours that

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Speaker 1: broke the news to me that they were the fifth

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Speaker 1: highest most likely team to win the Super Bowl in Vegas. Right,

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Speaker 1: and the other people are saying that the desert people,

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Speaker 1: not just the desert people, are getting behind the Browns.

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Speaker 1: This country is and we've been kind of ahead of

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Speaker 1: the curve on this, uh in the in the sense

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Speaker 1: that there has been a ground swell towards the Browns

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Speaker 1: in this country. Uh, and really NFL fans around the world.

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Speaker 1: This idea of getting behind the Browns a big part

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Speaker 1: I think hard knocks fed into that. And then what happened.

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Speaker 1: What's the season got going? Uh, it bottomed out with

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Speaker 1: it kind of to me crested with this Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: trade and in which the Giants and we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the Giants and and and this is a big show

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Speaker 1: by that we're gonna go through all day three of

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Speaker 1: free agency, but also uh, day one of the New

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Speaker 1: League year. Happy New Year, everybody. We're gonna break down

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Speaker 1: all the news that's going on. And also Joe Thomas,

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Speaker 1: who was on our Around the NFL Twitter show Big Fish, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big Fish earlier today. We don't do this often, but

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Speaker 1: when when it's something that we like and we want

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Speaker 1: more people to see, slash here it. We'll add this

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas sitting in with Greg Mark and myself, uh,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham completely changes everything. There's an excitement that goes

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Speaker 1: has gone next level because that's the type of player

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is. West He is a transcendent talent. You

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Speaker 1: a reflection of them becoming America's team. Are they one

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Speaker 1: blame their best players. This is what the Giants are doing.

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Speaker 1: They had leaked to Mike Garrifold this morning. We thought

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Speaker 1: We have a plan. Really, you think Pat Shermer feels

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Speaker 1: Jets get Bell and the Jets arrow is heading up

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Speaker 1: and the Giants is heading down. That doesn't that don't

429
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Speaker 1: happen in New York. In New Jersey. I know somebody

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Speaker 1: from New York in New Jersey. He's my old man,

431
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: Keith Hansas. We haven't heard from him in a while.

432
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Speaker 1: I wanted to hear his thoughts on Levy on Bell

433
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Speaker 1: joining gang guys. His name is Yeah, He'll doubt about it.

434
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Speaker 1: He's a big Jets fan. What is he going to say?

435
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: Pulling game to say? What does he go game? Today?

436
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: I think all Jet fans have to be excited with

437
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: the news yesterday the signing of Levian Bell. Is only

438
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old and he's a four year contract.

439
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: He's a great running back as well as an excellent

440
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Speaker 1: past receiver. Uh. This should really help the Jets advance

441
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: this year. Hopefully they can acquire a couple other players

442
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: to help him on the offensive line. But I think

443
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: this move show is showing the Jets are moving forward

444
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: and that's the good news for all Jet fans. You

445
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: can hear in my dad's voice. You know, there's been

446
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of big signings in the past, a lot

447
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Speaker 1: of big moves by the Jets, and they always seem

448
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Speaker 1: to blow up in their face. So there's a little

449
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Speaker 1: bit of trepidations, hesitation not to dive in with um,

450
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Speaker 1: you know, two feet, But it's all right to be

451
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: excited if you're Jets, be excited. His analysis is always

452
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: enjoyable and concise. They did have the highest paid free

453
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Speaker 1: agent last year to people, Trumaine Johnson, and because I

454
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Speaker 1: was the only the reasons I remember that was we

455
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Speaker 1: we I looked back at our podcast from a year

456
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Speaker 1: ago just see what you know, we had done in

457
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Speaker 1: in the first day of free agency. Podcast was named

458
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Speaker 1: Jets make their Move and I was like, what was

459
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Speaker 1: the Jets making their move? And I was just like,

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Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't as newsy last year. Treumaine Johnson

461
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Speaker 1: was the best something someone was writing about the young

462
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Speaker 1: this Jets cores they're trying to build. Treumaine Johnson wasn't

463
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Speaker 1: even listed as like, wow, it seemed like a whiff anyway.

464
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Speaker 1: But that's not the day to talk about that either, Greg.

465
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Speaker 1: It's a positive day for the Jets as well. Let's

466
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Speaker 1: move on now the Ravens. Greg. The Ravens been Pilford

467
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Speaker 1: in the early part of free agency. C J. Moseley,

468
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Speaker 1: who we mentioned, went to the Jets. Terrell Suggs defects

469
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Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals. They part ways with Eric Weddle,

470
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Speaker 1: they lose who else they live? Darius Smith, I mean

471
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Speaker 1: John Brown, smokey. We need something good to happen if

472
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Speaker 1: you're a Ravens fan. So they did. They got busy.

473
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Speaker 1: On Wednesday, safety Earl Thomas signed a four year, fifty

474
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Speaker 1: five million dollar anybody take Earl Thomas in the sandwich?

475
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Speaker 1: We not take the Ravens. We went over four uh,

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Speaker 1: four years, fifty five million dollars. The contract includes thirty

477
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Speaker 1: two million guaranteed averages fourteen point three three million over

478
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Speaker 1: the first three years. Per Ian Rappaport. Uh. That was

479
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Speaker 1: the highest player left on West and Greg's uh top

480
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Speaker 1: one on one free agents. Uh. And I'll tell you what, Greg,

481
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Speaker 1: this feels like a perfect raven signed Ravens signing. Do

482
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Speaker 1: you agree? I do. I love when teams have a tradition,

483
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Speaker 1: like at a certain position, and when you go from

484
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Speaker 1: Ed Reid to a few years with Eric Weddell, who

485
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Speaker 1: did it up right. We had three Pro Bowl years,

486
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Speaker 1: absolutely did it up right. You go from Eric Reid

487
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: in that deep safety position to Eric Weddle to Earl Thomas,

488
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: it just feels seamless. And I love when a guy

489
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Speaker 1: who's a Hall of Famer in my mind, Earl Thomas,

490
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Speaker 1: at least he's played to that level, has a chance

491
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Speaker 1: to have two separate chapters that are really memorable and unique.

492
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Speaker 1: And I think him joining the Ravens is the perfect

493
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Speaker 1: continuation of of their defensive tradition and gives him a

494
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Speaker 1: chance at least to have one of those first ballot

495
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Speaker 1: really special, memorable types of career because you know they'll

496
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Speaker 1: know how to use them. Like the concern when you

497
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Speaker 1: hear this hoop la about oh just you know Ticket

498
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: Cleveland for the NFC North is that there are two

499
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Speaker 1: teams in that division that have proven no matter what

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00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: happens to them off season to offseason, they will find

501
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: a way to succeed when the game's actually happened. And

502
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: you trust their ownership, their coaching staff, their ability to

503
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: developed players, the fact that they're almost Patriots like the Ravens,

504
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: where they've had a similar scheme on defense for so long.

505
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Speaker 1: So you're looking for the right and they let people

506
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Speaker 1: leave like the pat exactly. And Earl Thomas fits perfectly.

507
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: The minute that you know someone else could have overpaid

508
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: and he might have fit or he might not. The

509
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Speaker 1: minute I heard Ravens and Earl Thomas, I thought, I

510
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: can already see him in Baltimore. This is gonna go

511
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Speaker 1: very well. Yes, that and also another fit another twenty

512
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Speaker 1: nine year old turning thirty this year now a member

513
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Speaker 1: of the Ravens. Mark Ingram, your boy Mark Sessler, uh,

514
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Speaker 1: your USO friends strikes a three year, fifteen million dollar

515
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Speaker 1: deal with the Ravens. Uh so he enters the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Um that um looks like with the quarterback Lamar Jackson

517
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Speaker 1: and mark Ingram, that seems like a one two punch

518
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Speaker 1: that you can get behind. I think they're gonna they're

519
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Speaker 1: they're a strong candidate to lead the a f C.

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Speaker 1: And and carries again. I mean, I think they want

521
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Speaker 1: to be a little bit more of a balanced office.

522
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Speaker 1: But mark Ingram forget about the gust Bus Edwards d

523
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Speaker 1: late last year, right, And I don't think it's just

524
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Speaker 1: it's not Mark kingramd come in and be the featured back.

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Speaker 1: It's you're part of a committee again, and it's a

526
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Speaker 1: good fit. They're just both great fits, great natural fits.

527
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Speaker 1: And I think when you see them get poached ransacked

528
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Speaker 1: Pilford like they did on defense, and then to see

529
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Speaker 1: what the Browns did with their moves, and everyone's kind

530
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: of thinking in the back of their minds, I guess

531
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Speaker 1: the Ravens are taking a little nap here and it's like, oh, touchet,

532
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Speaker 1: Well they announced. They announced Earl Thomas and mark Ingram

533
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Speaker 1: within minutes of each other, and they're both great fits. Well,

534
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: they've got a great secondary on paper. You know, they've

535
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Speaker 1: kept Jimmy Smith. They still have Tony Jefferson, Marlin Humphrey,

536
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Speaker 1: Brandon Carr, Earl Thomas. That might be the best secondary

537
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Speaker 1: in the league. I think they were caught flat footed

538
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Speaker 1: by Mosley. I think their number two receiver right now

539
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Speaker 1: is either I mean, they're number one receiver is Willie

540
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Speaker 1: Snead that's problematic, and their number two receiver is Chris More.

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Speaker 1: I don't know so right, I get it, but I'm

542
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: a little concerned about them advancing the football through the air.

543
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: So that's it's early in the off season. Now we

544
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Speaker 1: said last twenty nineteen, and I feel like that is

545
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Speaker 1: something you want to be able to do. The forward

546
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: past seems important for all these But for all the

547
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: kudos for Baltimore, I cannot think of a team that's

548
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: had rougher luck drafting wide receivers if that's what they

549
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: want to do, well, luck is one way to put it.

550
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: If all right, if you had to pick one team

551
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Speaker 1: in the a f C North, the Bengals least likely

552
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: other than Cincinnati, UH to hit that ten to eleven

553
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: win range, who would it be? That's a good one.

554
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Speaker 1: I think I would go to Ravens. I think it's

555
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a good division race between all. I think

556
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Speaker 1: anybody thinks the Browns are gonna go fourteen and two. No,

557
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a dog fight because I

558
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: think the division is still very strong. We're talking about

559
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: a team that has not learned how to win inside

560
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: their own relation, and it's like it's they're ripe for

561
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: growing pains. I don't care about the star power that

562
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh. They will find a way to get to

563
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: ten or eleven wins. They we still have star power

564
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: right right? But but the Ravens have had. They are

565
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: a franchise that's had a lot of stability, and it

566
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Speaker 1: now that they have this much change on defense and

567
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: this much change on offense and a new quarterback and

568
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: a new offensive corner. I mean, this hasn't exactly been

569
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots over the last six years. I think they've won.

570
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, when's the last time they won a playoff game?

571
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Was a Super Bowl? Right, So, I mean I would

572
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Speaker 1: I would put them. Well, we had John Harbor on

573
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Speaker 1: the hot seat for various times over the past couple

574
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Speaker 1: of years, but their offensive work, the way it did

575
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: down the seton buildings seems to be putting them on

576
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: the hot seat. You know, we we all kind of

577
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: like John Harball a lot. It seems we're horriball guys, right.

578
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we Greg mentioned Sea scenario. I was

579
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: just mentioning that it was on the table because they

580
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: haven't you know, they were a little up and down.

581
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's keep moving, boys. They've got a lot

582
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: to get to that they did beat the Steelers that

583
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: one year in the playoffs. I blew that uh d

584
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: Ford is on the move. The Chiefs and forty Niners

585
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: have agreed agreed to a trade involving Ford in exchange

586
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: for swond round draft pick that came from rap sheet. UH.

587
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: Ford gets a new contract with the Niners, expected to

588
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: be five years and eighty seven and a half million

589
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: dollars star money for a top pass rusher. UM, do

590
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: you like this move? Mark for the Niners. I'll just

591
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: reiterate what we've what we've talked about with d Ford

592
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: that you have this peak contract year campaign uh in

593
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: a scheme that he fit in, and again you hope

594
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: that he can do duplicate that with the Niners. I mean,

595
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: I like it, but this is not someone that's given

596
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: you five straight years of this production, and it's a

597
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: little bit more of a wild card move for me.

598
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Speaker 1: What I love is the idea of the Niners, with

599
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: the draft pick they have and with the incredible pass

600
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: rushers hitting us this year in the draft, you could

601
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Speaker 1: pair him with someone else and suddenly you've got something

602
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: going on. I have d Ford with dominant games in

603
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: two out of last three season. He I think he

604
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: was a dominant player two out of the last three years.

605
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: He was unhealthy for part of the season uh three

606
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: years ago. But I think he is absolutely not a

607
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: one year wonder. I wonder how he fits going from

608
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: a three or four defense to a four three. But

609
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: the forty Niners finally have a pass rusher. And if

610
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: they pick up Nick Bosa with the number two pick,

611
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: and that would be intensive line suddenly goes from a

612
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: liability to I'm holding. I hope Nick Bosa drops the

613
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: three to the Jets, but it would be We talked

614
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jeremiah earlier today. DJ threw it out there

615
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: that if you pair Ford and Bosa, you're going to

616
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: terrorize some very good quarterbacks in that And and DeForest

617
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Buckner's like the best maybe the best player in the

618
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: league that gets no attention. Now he's kind of take

619
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Speaker 1: you know, I think Fletcher Cox is kind of now

620
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: he does get the attention. And Tyler Eifford is a

621
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: little under the radar. That that is a ridiculous. It's

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00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: it's a move though that I feel like John Lynch's.

623
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Speaker 1: You know, teams are hesitant to give out a contract

624
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Speaker 1: that big. I mean, that's the biggest contract in free agency?

625
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: Am I right? Well here's another contract and and I

626
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: want to say, just like that's the biggest contract and

627
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: you gave up a second round pick, and the way

628
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine has been playing lately, that's a high pick.

629
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Speaker 1: So that is a big time um risk that he's taken.

630
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: I think John Lynch realized this year three they need

631
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: to start showing some results. One little thing that catches

632
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: me and I get so if he he if he

633
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: has this natural talent, maybe he can shift into another scheme.

634
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs who've been with him for half a

635
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: decade say he's not gonna fit in this new scheme.

636
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: The Niners think we can make that work. TV. Another

637
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: move by the Niners, Tevin Coleman joins a crowded backfield.

638
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: He signs a two year, ten million dollar contracts pretty

639
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: nice value by but for the Niners. But it leaves

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Speaker 1: you wondering, what's what happens next? Because, uh, we know

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Speaker 1: that Matt Brita, he really did have a nice season

642
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Speaker 1: last year after Jerick McKinnon went down with an a

643
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Speaker 1: c L injury before the season started. McKinnon's getting paid

644
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. I think he's already made twelve

645
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Speaker 1: million with the Niners. Is there enough room for all

646
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: three of these guys? I don't know. I think that's

647
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: a good question. Matt Brita to me, is unquestionably the

648
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: best runner on this roster, and I think Tevin Coleman,

649
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: we've already seen the Shanahan knows how to get him

650
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: the ball in space fantastically well. He had an excellent

651
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: season in their Super Bowl year with Kyle Shanahan. And

652
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Speaker 1: to me, Jerick McKinnon coming off a torn a c L,

653
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Speaker 1: I would think that Tevin Coleman is going to be

654
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Speaker 1: the operal of his eye, not Jerick McKinnon. I think

655
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Speaker 1: they'll keep all three, and Coleman came out a great bargain.

656
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Speaker 1: I find it very surprising. I find it very strange

657
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Speaker 1: and almost uncomfortable when a guy like Tevin Coleman as

658
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: the same agent as Levy on Bell, and I think

659
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: that's a clear conflict of interest that makes you. I

660
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: just think there's something really wrong about that, because while

661
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: he was waiting for Levyan Bell to go sign Lottavius

662
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: Murray got more guaranteed money than Tevin Coleman. Some doesn't

663
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: seem right about that, Like, I'm really surprised Ottavius Murray

664
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Speaker 1: got a better contract than than Tevin Coleman. And Coleman

665
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Speaker 1: I think the way that their season went. They need

666
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: as many offensive weapons as they can get. Maybe injuries

667
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: are gonna happen play them all. Doubling back to the Chiefs,

668
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Is a team, the Chiefs that came very

669
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: close to going to the Super Bowl, but the defense

670
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: obviously disappointed. Bob Sutton got fired because of it. Uh.

671
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: Dford's gone, Justin Houston's gone, Eric Berry gone as well. Uh.

672
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: The Chiefs on Wednesday announced the release a Berry. Uh.

673
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: He had been with the team since being the number

674
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: five pick in the two thousand, two thousand ten draft.

675
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Of course, Berry is dealt with injuries cancer and he

676
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to get on the field a lot.

677
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: But Greg, as you pointed out earlier today, he played

678
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: a ton in the last last Chiefs game. But I

679
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: guess ultimately they decided they needed to make a move. Yeah,

680
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: he's had his physical problems are as serious as it

681
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: as it gets, and he was able to play, and

682
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: there was some questions should he get more surgery or not.

683
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: I think they they gave him and they were almost

684
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: forced like by public pressure to give him that contract

685
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: and it and it turned into a fiasco for them. Frankly,

686
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean it was just bad luck. But part of

687
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: the reason they gave him that contract despite some injury

688
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: questions was he's known as one of the leaders of

689
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: men and one of the people that is just as

690
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: tough and uh loves football about as much as anyone.

691
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Speaker 1: So I don't think they would dump him basically unless

692
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: they thought he was just done. There were whispers this morning, uh,

693
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: unsure how reliable they are by multiple people, that the

694
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Browns are making a play for Eric Berry, which makes

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00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: sense because of John Dorsey there. Uh, but ultimately that

696
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: probably be cheap. I mean, you would think you're not

697
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna cost a lot of money. Yeah, cancer survivor. I

698
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: hope he's able to come back and make a difference. Uh,

699
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: it's time Fells to jump into the fish tank. It's

700
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: been a while the organic fish tank. The Dobbins need

701
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You know, they're moving on from Ryan Tannehill. Uh,

702
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater made sense as an option, but then

703
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: we heard that Teddy Bridgewater was staying with the Saints. Uh.

704
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Mark Mark took took issue with that. He really uh

705
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: horror into Teddy and I think Teddy was listening to

706
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: the show because now we have news that Teddy Bridgewater

707
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: is scheduled to meet with the Dolphins in Miami on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night. We're recording this as we reached Wednesday night

709
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: rap sheet reported UH. So obviously a turn of events,

710
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: so we don't have anything as of uh this discussion,

711
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: but do not be surprised if Teddy Bridgewater mark is

712
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: the uh the leader in the clubhouse to be the

713
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: starter for the Dolphins in twenty nine. Right. Jane Slater

714
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Speaker 1: was very adamant that there was an offer from the Saints.

715
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: There was an agreement. Uh, I wonder. I mean, it's

716
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Speaker 1: just for the same reasons we brought up yesterday that

717
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Speaker 1: for me, it's not a Teddy Bridgewater thing, because I

718
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: don't know Teddy Bridgewater the person at all. But if

719
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: I want to trade an NFL quarterback, it's whatever team

720
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: you have a chance to start for, if it's your

721
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: only chance, that you would prefer that over being a backup. Now,

722
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Speaker 1: I understand the Dolphins con seemed like a bit of

723
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: a hot mess, But I'll go back to a year

724
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: ago when Baker Mayfield was asked to can do you

725
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: think you can like rescue this moribund Brown's franchise? Coming

726
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: off and oh in sixteen year and he said, absolutely,

727
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: let's do it. That's the that's what you want from

728
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: the neck up, from your quarterback to confidence. I'm not

729
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: saying Teddy Bridgewater personally doesn't have that viewpoint, but I

730
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: questioned a little bit to go become a backup on

731
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: what seems to be a very short range deal with

732
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: the Saints. Where are you? Are you secure that you're

733
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna be there when Drew Brees is done? What? What

734
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: is the plan? So I I want to see what

735
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: happens here. I would not compare Baker Mayfield to Teddy

736
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: Bridgewater from any kind of standpoint. I think Baker Mayfield

737
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: just so much better, So that's why he was confident.

738
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Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, to me, there's something to be said for foresight,

739
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: and having the foresight to go stay with the Saints,

740
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: to me just was really smart. Do you have no

741
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 1: offensive line and one of the worst rosters in the NFL.

742
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: It does make you wonder if the Dolphins said, hey,

743
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: actually we'll we'll offer you a little better. Mike gari

744
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: Folow was on with us earlier today on our was

745
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: it our Twitter Show or was it our NFL Lose

746
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: track because we're so productive, pay us we are technically,

747
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: like four years ago, very unbecoming. Anyway, Uh, Mike told

748
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: us that the Saints deal uh for Teddy Bridgewater, they

749
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: believed there was gonna be in the seven million base

750
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: value range, which is very good money for a backup.

751
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: And now we're hearing reports that if Teddy ends up

752
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: going to Miami, guess who ends up going to New

753
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: Orleans getting that type of money. Maybe Ryan Tannehill. And

754
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: you know what was to your new report that there's

755
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: no way he's going to New Orleans save it for

756
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: the Friday pot. Interesting. It will be interesting, uh to

757
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: see whoever ends up being behind Drew Brees. Uh, that's

758
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: a good spot. I maintained that's a good it is,

759
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: But only Freeze get hurt. Here's the whole thing about

760
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: like Teddy Bridge, it wasn't something they're apparent on a

761
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: one year deal. It's like they'll they'll evaluate it when

762
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: it when it happens, they will give him twenty year deal.

763
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the history of forty year old quarterbacks is

764
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: it goes all at once, not like okay, he just

765
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: declined over a period of three years. So if it

766
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: goes you're gonna want that guy behind it. But it's

767
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: confusing too because the history of like recent forty year

768
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: old quarterbacks is they suddenly get better, like Drew Brees

769
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: gets it, like goes for an m v P caliber

770
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: season and then Tom Brady throws five yards in the

771
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and then wins at the next would point

772
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: you to Peyton Mannings last year, and let's let's stay

773
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: in the fish tank. Guys, get back in the fish tank,

774
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: the fish tank, Gamber and Wake. He's out. He's got

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Speaker 1: in the tank, out of the fish tank, and he's

776
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: heading to the Tennessee Tytoons who agreed uh on a

777
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: three year, twenty three million dollar deal. This from tom

778
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Pella Sero, our own tom Pella Sero, uh ten million guaranteed.

779
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Wake already seven years old? Greg Uh when uh when

780
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: he takes the field for Tennessee. Uh So this is

781
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: not a spring chicken. Where are we at so far

782
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: with the Titans in the direction they're going in their

783
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: free agency, because this that's a win they'll buy right there.

784
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: They they've been selective. But I like the moves that

785
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: they made. I think I like Saffo, the like Humphries.

786
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna Wake is a little bit like Breeze

787
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: or Brady right now because you just assume he's gonna

788
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: fall off at some point every year. It never happened.

789
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's had a remarkable career. He had a

790
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: great season a year ago. To get a ten million

791
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: dollar guarantee on a pretty big contract as a thirty

792
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: what is he? Thirty seven year old? Is insane? Like

793
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: does the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's kind of

794
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: you know how basketball considers your other leagues, like you know,

795
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: women certainly are in an internationalists. Then I don't know

796
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: because like Wake, I don't I don't know what he

797
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: did in the CFL. Was he just like the best

798
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: player at some point? Like he's building up a case here.

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Speaker 1: I believe that Warren CFL contributions were considered when he

800
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: was He's it had a very unique career. Cameron Wake.

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00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: He's pretty amazingly different player. Every year we end up

802
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: talking about, Wow, Cameron Wake. He you gotta give him

803
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: crandit totally different player. But I remember Brandon Marshall a

804
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: few years back bringing up the point that he's been

805
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: so remarkably productive. If you just hang around for three

806
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: or four more years and keep putting up the numbers.

807
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: He'd be hard to keep out. Wake would probably need

808
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: to have a nice run with the Titans here, but

809
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: it's not impossible. Oh, I think he would have to

810
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: go back to being like, well, they need a pass

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00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: they need pass rush. I like it. I guess how

812
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: about a real a certain Hall of Famer sticking in Washington?

813
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson UH signed a one year deal with Washington

814
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: and responded with his eighth one thousand yards season. Washington

815
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Speaker 1: decides they keep going around, even Darius Guys coming back

816
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: from that a c L tear. Uh, they bring him

817
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: back two year deal worth eight million. Rap sheet and

818
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: Garret Fuller boarded. I don't know what the guaranteed money

819
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: is on this one, but either way, Peterson keeping it

820
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: going at a time when most running backs are in retirement.

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Speaker 1: That's Tevin Coleman money and Peterson earned it. He was

822
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: the focal point of that offense and a team that

823
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: looked to be playoff bound until they lost their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I guess you know you have Darius

825
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: guys coming back as well. That can be a very

826
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: good backfield. And for me, I just I struggle to

827
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: generate any excitement about the about the Redskins when we're

828
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: going to spend an entire offseason of flowery nonsense about

829
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: case Keenum as your starter, and you added a sad,

830
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of flowers growing around

831
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Speaker 1: the Keeno. I think they'll be in like the Detroit

832
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Lions Club where they just kind of exist. We are

833
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: like we are, two years removed from an entire offseason

834
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Speaker 1: spent on Trevor Simeon and another one of on Tom Savage. Like,

835
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: believe me, we'll find a way to over celebrate whoever

836
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: starting anywhere? Are we, George, I'm not saying the four

837
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: of us, but it's in the it's in the water

838
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: around here. Are we sure he's starting? The Redskins paid

839
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: the same amount for those two guys. Quote McCoy has

840
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: been in this offense for more than four years, and

841
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: every time Jake Gruden talks about quote McCoy the podcast,

842
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry starting, but neither was I sure that

843
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon. We all said all along that Broncos team

844
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: would have three starters, and they did, and we all

845
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: said Tom Savage is gonna last about fourteen days and

846
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: he did. And it's just that Case Keenum will be

847
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: talked about incessantly and I need him out of my life.

848
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: Here at the on Friday Show, we're gonna do some

849
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: over unders for all these guys landing in new places.

850
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: But while we're here, Uh, case Keenum eleven and a

851
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: half starts over the best of his career under. I'm

852
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: putting rent on that. I mean because at this point

853
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: I need a way to make a little more income.

854
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: If I'm getting even odds putting the rent on under

855
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: and they're gonna draft someone potentially, let's move on the

856
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: The Raiders make another move Tyrrell Williams, who had one

857
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: one thousand yard season and four years of the charges.

858
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: So he's shown it you could do in the past.

859
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: The Raiders are banking on it. He could do it

860
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: some more. Rap Sheet reported Wednesday UH that Oakland signs

861
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: UH Williams four years worth forty four million, twenty two

862
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. He ranked number thirty nine on NFL dot

863
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: COM's list of top one on one free agents and

864
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: pretty rich money for UH. For Tyrolle Williams, right, it

865
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: seems like a pretty nice deal for him. Not a

866
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: guy I would give that much money too, but a

867
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: job Mr Agent. Without a doubt, Derek Carr has much

868
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: better receivers this year than he did I think GMS.

869
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of offer. It sounded

870
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: like he had a lot more interest and maybe would

871
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: have ranked a little higher on the average GM's top

872
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: one oh one list. People were into it, I think

873
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: because deep speed is just so hard to find, and

874
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: he and he, he has that. Suddenly you have him

875
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown. I bet right now you have a

876
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: competent collection. I mean going into free agent Jordy Nelson

877
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Gunn but of the one of the funniest analysis I

878
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: saw the other night. It was from a good a

879
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: good writer, but it was like, you know, you gotta

880
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: really look at the impact that Antonio Brown is going

881
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: to have an opening up things for Jordy Nelson. I

882
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: was like, if Jordy Nelson is if you're if you're

883
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: thinking that that's a major part of their offense and

884
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: that's their number two receiver, that they're gonna still stink

885
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: outside of Buffalo, worst group of wide receivers before these

886
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: two signings. Speaking of the Chargers, um they add a name,

887
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: they lose Tyrrell. They get a Tyrod, you better call Tyrod.

888
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work. That's a deep cut. That's like

889
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: the My Morning Jacket version rap sheet reported Wednesday to

890
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor or Tarad. I don't want to talk about

891
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 1: that again. Agreed to a two year contract with the Chargers.

892
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: The team intermated the news official and I just realized something, Gerg,

893
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: I assume this is the only reason it was in

894
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: the show. Oh, Gurg, where's Gino? Because Gino couldn't even

895
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: hold out to a number two job in l A. Well,

896
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: he's on the street. He did hold on to it,

897
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: and he completed the season. He has more playoff victories. Uh,

898
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: you know then many franchises to decade. And I asked

899
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: a question, have you accepted this, that this is a

900
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: bit now or are you just like really still believing

901
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: in he knows in the league he's gonna be back.

902
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: Not right now, right at the moment. You famously believe

903
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: he's like a top thirty quarterback. He hasn't had a

904
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: he hasn't had another chance really to prove it. But

905
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: I play, but I do think that people that know

906
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks well, they keep giving him contract he will be.

907
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: He will be seventh and m v p uh rankings

908
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: for the XFL on about three years. I'll give you that.

909
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, to answer your question, West, I did give

910
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: up on trying to put him into the top one

911
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: on one I think even a year ago. So hey,

912
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: at least you like to defend likable guys one of

913
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: the we sometimes we you know, life happy. Rod's an upgrade.

914
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I'll admit it. Thank you time Anthony Lynn worked with him,

915
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: and I mean, he knows who he is. At least

916
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: life happens and things keep moving and you forget about it.

917
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: But never forget that Juno Smith was a starting quarterback

918
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: and over a three plane ticket, one of his own

919
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: team teammates punched him out in his locker room and

920
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: brokesh jaw. That is a thing that happened. That's just

921
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: still a thing that happened, and it will never have

922
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: not happened. That was also liable like moment in his career,

923
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: But for me, it was over the minute that he

924
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: walked out after being drafted in a white sweater. I've

925
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: never really he got He got Rex another year by

926
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: helping them win those games, including down in Miami at

927
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: the end of the for a game run, for a

928
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: game run. And this was just for you, Greg, A

929
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: real grinder. You love it. Darryl Williams sticking around in Caroline.

930
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: He signs a one year a contract where seven million.

931
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: So the tackle sticks around at Charlotte to protect big

932
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: just for me. I don't know. You said you wanted

933
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: to talk about it. No I did. I just said

934
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: that was I was just literally I actually said, we

935
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: don't need to do this. And here's just the information

936
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: for you guys were sitting here. It wasn't top twenty

937
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: guy in our uh free agent lists. I think teams

938
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 1: were a little afraid coming off a big time injury.

939
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. As promised.

940
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: We had a really nice conversation with a future Hall

941
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: of Famer. And when we do that, we like to

942
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: amplify it. That's a that's a term that's used in

943
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: content generation. Let's hear it right now. One quick note.

944
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean this will be thrown out there on video too.

945
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: I would I would click into the video to take

946
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: a look at where Joe Thomas is at From the

947
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: physique angle. He was sort of shockingly uh and ruggedly built,

948
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: am I wrong about that. Now he's in good shape physically,

949
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: and you'll have a chance to check it out. I didn't.

950
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to it there. He is very

951
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: exciting to be joined by the greatest Brown since Jim Brown.

952
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas iron Man left tackle of the Cleveland Browns

953
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: an amazing eleven year career, and now you're joining us here.

954
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I love the studio, man, and

955
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: thanks for having me off. This is great. We built

956
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: this for you, Joe. Yeah, when we have a future

957
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in the building, we build it for you.

958
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: That we were just talking about when you when you

959
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: just came on, when you sat down, you're getting used

960
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: to this body. You're nice and slimmed down now, totally different.

961
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: I feel a little better in these chairs these days.

962
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of nice. Yeah, I'm sure I did notice

963
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: the difference. Like when you said hi to all of us.

964
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: You know, you shake Dan nice hand. It's nice to

965
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: meet you. You had to give Mark Sessler a hunt

966
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: like you've never met, but you know of his Browns

967
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: fandom just by reputation history. He came on the Tomahawk podcast.

968
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: We enjoyed ourselves, you know, we get to have the

969
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: mutual Browns love, so Browns fans, they get each other.

970
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: I think, hight listen. I mean, I'm just I'm trying

971
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: to breathe here steadily because having a long time coming.

972
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: But we we spent that show breaking down other teams

973
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Maybe it'll be different. This isn't it?

974
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: And it's such a special time. I mean, when's the

975
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: last time. And the Browns have been trending upward, Let's

976
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: face it, since the day Baker Mayfield got drafted, and

977
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: now what happens with the Odell Beckham trade. Things have

978
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: gone overdrive now. And it went from you know, the

979
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: Browns could be frisky, the Browns could be an af

980
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: C North contender. Now people are talking about an a

981
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: f C contender. A lot has changed since you stepped

982
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: off the field, Joe Thomas. That's easy to say. I

983
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: mean when I was there my last year, they had

984
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, which is like the cornerstone of that defense.

985
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: But then the year after to pick up Baker Mayfield

986
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: and Denzel Ward and then now O b J and

987
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: and just the way John Dorsey has transformed that roster,

988
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive just to look on paper. Wow, that's

989
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: a lot of talent, and that's a lot of young talent.

990
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: They're a part of you because that news broke as

991
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: you are on TV. Let's check that out. By the way,

992
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: let's see what that looked like. When Joe Thomas found

993
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 1: out one of the greatest wide receivers are less played

994
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: five years, it's coming to the Cleveland Browns, I felt like,

995
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: you know the ladies when they're in pregnancy and they're

996
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: had given birth and they've given like the brown paper

997
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: bag that you have to read, don't pass out. That's

998
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: what I felt like, because I had just talked that morning,

999
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: uh to some of the local radio and said, there's

1000
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: no way the Giants are getting rid of O b J.

1001
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: And I just wouldn't let myself believe it. It was

1002
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: like the kid on Christmas morning. I was trying to

1003
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: manage my expectations, expecting it to be socks under the

1004
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: Christmas tree, and then I opened it up and it

1005
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: was like the coolest boombox of all time. You're one

1006
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: of the greatest Browns ever. You're you're not that far

1007
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: removed from the game. Are you plugged in enough where

1008
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: you were maybe hearing things that other people were that

1009
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: this could be in play. Not really. And I've got

1010
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: a lot of friends in the organization still, and I

1011
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: chat with those guys all the time, but I try

1012
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: to keep our relationship mostly friendship based, so it's not

1013
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: just me trying to pull information from them. You're now

1014
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: in the media. I would get that. I do wonder

1015
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: because it's your run with the Browns. You almost went

1016
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: to the playoffs that first year in two thousand seven,

1017
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: and then there was a long streak of darkness. Do

1018
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: you ever feel kind of like almost Moses that led

1019
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: this team to what now seems like the promised Land,

1020
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: but you're not able to go with them on the field.

1021
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: Is there a little bit of frustration on that front? Honestly,

1022
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: I haven't let my mind except the fact yet that

1023
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm not a part of the team anymore. I think

1024
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: because I feel like now, as a player, you have

1025
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: to be really guarded and you have to manage your

1026
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: expectations and you have to always say the right things.

1027
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: But now I can just be excited to be a

1028
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: fan and just be over the top when something cool

1029
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: like this happens. Is there part of you in that

1030
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: moment you're on NFL Network Live. You're like thinking to yourself,

1031
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: like how much of a media member do I want

1032
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: to be or how much how much excited do I

1033
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: just want to know? It's it's hard and when you're

1034
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: in that situation, and I don't think the NFL Network

1035
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: would want me to be stone faced about it, because

1036
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: this is an exciting time for the Browns. This is

1037
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: an organization that's had a lot of hardship since they

1038
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: came back in and they're one of the great franchises

1039
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And to finally have that turnaround happening

1040
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: right now, and to see it accelerating each offseason with

1041
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: these incredible moves that John Dorsey has been making it

1042
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: so cool. Well, with that in mind, let's check out

1043
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: another tweet from our colleague and Siciliano. Hey, Joe, how cooking?

1044
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: And you put the weight back on? What do you say?

1045
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean? Is it even a possibility that it never

1046
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: crossed your mind in the past? You know, twelve fifty months,

1047
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: I would love to be part of a championship run.

1048
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: But if I had anything left in my knees, I

1049
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: would have played last year. The reason I retired had

1050
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me being sick of losing, or

1051
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: sick of turnover, or that I didn't love the game anymore.

1052
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: I love the game just as much when I walked out,

1053
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: if not more than when I first walked into the

1054
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: door and Cleveland in two thousand and seven. I love

1055
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: the locker room, I love the preparation. Everything about it

1056
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: was great. But when your body gives up on you,

1057
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: there's really nothing less you. Yeah, I mean it was easy.

1058
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: How surreal is it that the Browns are in some

1059
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: ways America's team right now? I mean, the Cowboys still

1060
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: have the title, but people this country is rooting for Cleveland.

1061
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: They've been rooting for Cleveland when they were coming off

1062
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: oh and sixteen, and now the band wagons starting to

1063
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: flo seems a little uncomfortable with the people now jumping,

1064
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: and I get that. Listen, if you've been there, you've

1065
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: been there. Now suddenly everyone's a place. If as a jetman,

1066
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: if the same thing happened with jet people jumping on

1067
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: the jets Ban Wagan, I'd be like, stay off. You

1068
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: don't deserve this. I earned this. How surreal is it

1069
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: that the Browns get this much love now from the

1070
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: country At the years of derision, yeah, I'm excited that

1071
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: the Browns are sort of the center of the NFL

1072
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: universe right now and hopefully for the future. True, but

1073
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: it is funny because there is going to be some

1074
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: of that amongst fans, Like well, I went through the

1075
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: O N six team, I stuck with the team. All

1076
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're coming out of the woodwork now

1077
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: that they're good and they've got this fun team with

1078
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: all these great personalities. So I'm sure that's gonna happen.

1079
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: Let's hope it happens, because that means they've had a

1080
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: great season. You should be the bouncer. I'd be happy

1081
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: to be the bout I'll throw a few people out.

1082
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: I've always said that if the Browns in my lifetime

1083
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: ever won the Super Bowl, and there were, there was

1084
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: a period there where I thought, it's not happening, even

1085
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: if I live for another thirty years, they won't. But

1086
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: if it happens, I don't care how old I am.

1087
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna in systematically burn down like eight cars on

1088
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: my street and let's start throwing shares all over the place.

1089
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: What would your response be? Would it be stoic when

1090
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: you go nuts? You know, I haven't let myself put

1091
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: myself into that shoe as yet of what it would

1092
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: feel like when the Browns win a Super Bowl. But

1093
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: I remember when I was twelve years old. I was

1094
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: a Packer fan growing up in Wisconsin, and Brett Farve

1095
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: wins their Super Bowl and ninety six I think it was,

1096
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: and it was like ten below zero in Wisconsin. I

1097
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: ran outside. I ripped my shirt off as a twelve

1098
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: year old kid, and I was going around the street.

1099
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it would be something like that. It

1100
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: would be like the j R. Smith all over again

1101
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: when I wouldn't put my shirt on for me. You

1102
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: have to give you a ring after all you've done well.

1103
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: It makes me growing up in New York, Don Mattingly

1104
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: the Yankees, he retired and then they started Dynasty immediately

1105
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: when Derek Jeter gets there. The fans, though, didn't forget Mattingly.

1106
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: He never got to the World Series. I feel like

1107
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Browns fan, if a similar things situation played out, you

1108
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: would be just as beloved as all these guys that

1109
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: are winning titles of what ever happened, because you were

1110
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: there the fans. You're synonymous with that the pain that

1111
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: led to the greatness in a Way. Yeah, there was

1112
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: a lot of pain and hopefully there's some greatness coming up.

1113
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: But you know, Bronze fans are they're the best. We're

1114
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: not doing in the countries. Yeah when they win the

1115
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Now, the Browns fans are the best in

1116
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: the country, and they've shown me nothing but love even

1117
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: through all those really hard times. And I'm forever grateful

1118
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: it's a Brown city because I know what happened with

1119
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: the Calves and that was a nice bomb during the

1120
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: really dark ages for Cleveland's football team. But I remember

1121
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: back in the eighties when it was Marty Schottenheimer there

1122
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: and Bernie Kozar, and that stadium was always talked about

1123
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: outside next to the Broncos as the loudest, toughest place

1124
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: to play. Fans were throwing batteries at John Elway. I

1125
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: mean it has there's not been an opportunity for that.

1126
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: They were getting wild even when it started hearing five early,

1127
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: like they were going crazy. It's gonna be a bananas

1128
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: their opening day because they can feel that excitement building

1129
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: in the off season. Last offseason, everyone was excited because

1130
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: of what they did in the draft. And you have

1131
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: this rookie, but you don't really know when the turnaround

1132
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. You don't know how good the rookie

1133
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: is going to be. And so this year, with the

1134
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: excitement building through the off season, is going to be crazy.

1135
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: And Nodell Beckham is pure electricity. Even on these more

1136
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: abun Giants teams in recent year, he was they that

1137
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: made them primetime TV. Like, he's gonna turn the Browns

1138
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: into an offense that we've never seen in Cleve Well.

1139
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: He's one of the icons of the NFL, probably of

1140
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: all time. And to be able to be part of

1141
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: this Brown's resurgen franchise and when they win the Super

1142
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: Bowl with him, I mean, can you imagine the legacy

1143
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: that these guys are confident we should do. Remember what

1144
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: the Lebron's side with the heat is like, we're not

1145
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: gonna win one title, We're not gonna win two, We're

1146
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: not gonna maybe we can get that go just it's

1147
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: like a football head though, aren't you kind of excited

1148
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: to see what Freddie Kitchens is gonna do with all

1149
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: of these pieces because it's not just Odell Beckham, and

1150
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: it's the running Game, it's Jarvis Landry, it's in Joku

1151
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: like kind of what are you expecting to see out

1152
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: of this offense? Yeah, well, from an x is in

1153
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: an O standpoint, Odell Beckham was sort of the missing

1154
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: link on that offense because they had Jarvis Landry, who's

1155
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: more of your possession underneath type guy. He catches a

1156
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: lot of balls, but he's not the down the field threat.

1157
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: But now you have O B J. Baker can throw it.

1158
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: He's got an arm. So you got ob J gon d,

1159
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: you got Jarvis underneath. That's really a difficult thing for

1160
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: a defense to handle. From a coverage standpoint, how do

1161
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: you cover both those guys because you can't take away

1162
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: both of them at the same time. And now they

1163
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: have some other weapons too, obviously, the addition of Kareem Haunt.

1164
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: You got Nick Chubb in the backfield, David and Joke

1165
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: who's coming into his own. It's a lot of weapons

1166
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: for a guy like Freddie Kitchens to be able to

1167
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: sit there in the off season and salivate in those

1168
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: meeting rooms before we say goodbye for a decade, Joe

1169
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: was a beacon of greatness for the Cleveland Brown So Mark,

1170
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: you have anything you need to say to Joe before

1171
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: he leaves us here on the around the NFL Twitter chat.

1172
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: Is this I mean you're you're a future Hall of Famer.

1173
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: You you know you went to work every day and

1174
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: miss didn't miss a snap forever and ever. This right

1175
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: now though, sitting here with the three of us, is

1176
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: this really when you search your heart a high point

1177
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: career wise, if it's not the highest, it's definitely tied. Okay,

1178
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: I'll take that like from like tied with that moment

1179
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: where and we didn't couldn't get out from underneath. Yes,

1180
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: that moment that that moment of me snapping might try

1181
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: setting laying on the field there, all right, Well those

1182
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: days agone. It's a new era now when you talk

1183
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: about the Browns, it's all good things. Joe Thomas, thank

1184
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: you for joining us, and please come back again when

1185
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: after the first title, maybe the third title, whenever you have. Yeah,

1186
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: I'll be back after the third or fourth title. Will

1187
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Thanks guys for having me.

1188
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. There you go, Joe Thomas, Mark Sessler beaming.

1189
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: I took a photo mark with you and this spelt

1190
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. Afterwards he looked like a like a tiny

1191
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: child made him as as Greg said that that man

1192
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: during his playing days was the prototypical left tackle build.

1193
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: So there's nothing to be ashamed of. He's six six,

1194
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: he's in much better shape now, I mean really in

1195
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot of ways than he was as a as

1196
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: a player. There's a part of me that really wanted

1197
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: him to come back to the Browns and play left

1198
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: tackle for two as we heard his knees or shot

1199
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: his body would not cooperate. All right, that's it for

1200
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: today's show. Again, Mark, it's a new day. It's a

1201
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: new day. I'm willing to, uh, you know, feel happier

1202
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: than in the past. I'm going to give it. You

1203
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: know what. I know you so well Mark that sometimes

1204
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: good things have happened with the Browns. And I remember

1205
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: in fact draft day, um, not the film now, you

1206
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: were not happy about that. Um, when Baker Mayfield is drafted,

1207
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: you weren't willing to release yourself in a way. Um.

1208
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: But I sense with this Beckham move that you are

1209
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: embracing the beauty of the Browns being reborn as a franchise,

1210
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: not just on the rise, but a franchise that has arrived. Yeah.

1211
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: I have equal concerns that at some point, like in

1212
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: early September, the team bus is going to roll off

1213
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: a bridge and this roster will be lost for all time.

1214
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: But assuming that doesn't happen, it should be fun times ahead.

1215
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: That's how I think up on the Dark Lake. That's

1216
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: how I think about these things, all right, But a

1217
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: good day for the Browns and jatz Marks and we

1218
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: and we deserve those. We'll be back on Friday. Uh.

1219
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll do some over unders how these

1220
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: players will fair in new locations, some final thoughts on

1221
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: free agency, and then any other news, because there are

1222
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: greg a lot more players, good players, maybe not the

1223
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: top tier guys, but guys that will make a big

1224
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: difference on teams in twenty nineteen that currently are unemployed.

1225
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: I think where there's eleven of our top forty are

1226
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: still available, and but then you're getting more into the

1227
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: middle tier. The bargains and this word, teams get done,

1228
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: and I think it's good to have a good GM

1229
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: we've seen in past years, though, you know, we we

1230
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: should just be ready for an emergency pod we've seen

1231
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: in past years. In these days that's where some trades

1232
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: that you just had no idea was coming have happened.

1233
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: I picked a lower octane news lineup and if and

1234
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: if something breaks, If news breaks, the heroes will be

1235
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: in the studio creating more content to amplify and all

1236
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: social media channels. That's it. Get their act together. Instagram

1237
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: is van Hans Sessler's got a picture of Joe Thomas

1238
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: ready to change Instagram. Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss,

1239
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: and Ken out doing the damn thing behind the glass.

1240
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: Sign him, Tell Friday m HM