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Speaker 1: You're all one to builds live. Hey for taking the call. Sure, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Bill's camp and the league get large when

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Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live, presented by Collat

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Speaker 1: of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and please

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Speaker 1: to be joined now by senior NFL writer from The Ringer,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Clark, who has been taking in the first few

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Speaker 1: days of training camp. He's been here from the start. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time stopping by here. We know

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Speaker 1: you're busy, but it was funny you said, simple reason

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Speaker 1: why you're hearing nobody else's practice. I couldn't make it

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Speaker 1: to Vegas. Yeah, I went to Rochester first. I'm beautiful

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Speaker 1: Pittsford and having a great time. I can't complain. The

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Speaker 1: weather's been an outstanding Yeah. And before we get to

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Speaker 1: maybe some of your impressions of what you've seen out

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Speaker 1: here on the practice field and maybe some of the

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Speaker 1: conversations you've had in your time here with players, coaches,

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Speaker 1: front office people, I want to kind of take an

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Speaker 1: overarching look at the McDermott being tenure. What I mean,

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Speaker 1: what would you say are the most noticeable changes from

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Speaker 1: the start of this thing in twenty seventeen to where

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Speaker 1: we are at now here in twenty twenty two. With

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Speaker 1: the exception of the COVID year. I've been to camp

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Speaker 1: every single year, including me back to the Buddy Nick's Chandala.

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Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of bad football on both of

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Speaker 1: these fields series, and you guys have seen far more

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Speaker 1: of it from UM. But what I'll say is that UM,

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Speaker 1: you notice it in everything and everything, And what's interesting

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Speaker 1: about McDermott and being as you felt the foundation was

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Speaker 1: right before you saw the results on the field, um,

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Speaker 1: And I think that was a change from maybe previous

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Speaker 1: regimes and was usually because I did a story last

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Speaker 1: year about talking to Josh and Sean and Brandon about

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Speaker 1: just the lessons other teams can take about Josh's success

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Speaker 1: and how they built this team over the process of

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Speaker 1: four years, and everything along the way made sense. They

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Speaker 1: didn't try to force it, you know, they didn't want

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Speaker 1: me to play that first year when they were basically

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Speaker 1: clearing out the salary cap, taking the biggest deadcap charge

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Speaker 1: in the history. But then the line got sorted out,

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Speaker 1: the skill guys got sorted out, and the marriage between

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Speaker 1: Brandon Being and Sean McDermott is as good as any

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Speaker 1: coaching GM pairing in this league. And so I think

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Speaker 1: that you see it in every facet, whether it's just

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Speaker 1: how practices run sports mass and whatever it is. Everything

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Speaker 1: has been upgraded over the course of these five years,

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Speaker 1: and so the special to say, yeah, and it's interesting

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Speaker 1: as well, the growth you know happens and it now

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Speaker 1: they're a part of a different group. Before it was

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Speaker 1: like wow, can we get can we get over that hump?

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Speaker 1: Can we beat the Patriots. Can we do all this stuff?

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Speaker 1: Can we can we get competitive to have a shot

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Speaker 1: at the playoffs kind of thing. Now they're part of

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Speaker 1: a different group. They're part of the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, They're they're up in part of

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Speaker 1: those teams that people are looking at, going all right,

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Speaker 1: how far are they going to go this year? Um,

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Speaker 1: this guy's the limit? What do you see in that conversation?

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Speaker 1: Particularly in the AFC. You got Russell Russell Wilson in

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Speaker 1: the conference, you got Matt Ryan in the conference. Now

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Speaker 1: you know, there's some things that have changed. The barrier

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Speaker 1: French try to be an ANFC contender is as high

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Speaker 1: as I've ever seen it in any conference effort. Because

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Speaker 1: you think about a team with the Raiders that went

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Speaker 1: out and got Davante Adams, they already had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good quarterback and Derek Carr. That might not matter at all.

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Speaker 1: You took the best receiver in the NFL and it

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Speaker 1: might not improve your position at all in that division.

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Speaker 1: When you think about the Broncos might be third in

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Speaker 1: that division starting out. The Chargers have all that talent,

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Speaker 1: they brought in guys who are pretty special, and then

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are still the kind of the benchmark that

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Speaker 1: in that conference. Um, they think up between with the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: who they made the play the Super Bowl. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even sure that they're they're they're in the top three

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Speaker 1: right now for me, Um, And it's not like they've

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Speaker 1: they've lost a lot of talent. It's just the barrier

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Speaker 1: for entry is so high. I think that the Bills

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Speaker 1: are a top three team, and I think it comes

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Speaker 1: down to it. I know Bills fans are gonna wa

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Speaker 1: hear this luck injury, luck, fumble, luck, one play you

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Speaker 1: think about that lost in Kansas City that was partly

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Speaker 1: you know, clock luck, whatever it is, Um. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's just so much that goes into it. And I

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Speaker 1: think that it would not surprise me if any one

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Speaker 1: of five six teams in the AFC when when the

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Speaker 1: conferences year, and that's not normal at all. Yeah. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned when I asked the first question that it's the

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Speaker 1: vision that has been consistent throughout. What is the biggest

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Speaker 1: difference about this twenty twenty two edition of the Bills

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Speaker 1: as you see it the guy calling the place, um,

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Speaker 1: and that that that's what I was out here focusing

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Speaker 1: on is what's this going to look like? Um? What

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Speaker 1: what the Brian Dabe we talked about being a McDermott

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Speaker 1: Dabele Allen pretty good pairing also, um as good as

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Speaker 1: a guest and one of the best coaching jobs we've seen.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that had to do with just how

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Speaker 1: special Josh was and wanting to be coached and and

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Speaker 1: the Crows there. But Ken Dorsey's been here the whole

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Speaker 1: time and talk to Josh yesterday about that and he

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Speaker 1: basically said, it's so important for a guy. First of all,

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Speaker 1: continuity's important, but second of all, it's so important that

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Speaker 1: he's been sitting next to day Ball for five years,

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Speaker 1: four years and basically been able to say, hey, Josh

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Speaker 1: doesn't like these concepts, you know, don't even think about

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Speaker 1: putting this sort of concept in. That's important And that's

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Speaker 1: the kind of hitting the ground running thing that you

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Speaker 1: guys the Bills need because it's not like you can

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Speaker 1: spend the first month getting doing chemistry tests here and

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Speaker 1: making sure, hey, how do you like to meet whatever?

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Speaker 1: You don't do any of that stuff. UM, this is

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Speaker 1: going to be hitting the ground running. The partnership is

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Speaker 1: going to be good. I talked to a couple of people,

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Speaker 1: both Josh and Matt Barklay and Ken himself. This is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a flexible, adaptive offense. You know, Ken, when

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Speaker 1: he was at the Unversity of Miami wasn't a lot

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Speaker 1: not a lot of quarterback runs, very very pro pro style,

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Speaker 1: drop back heavy. And he's not that that guy anymore.

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Speaker 1: He's learned a lot about the game. He was Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton's quarterback coach in Carolina. So I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to see so much of his football education

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Speaker 1: on the field. How long do you think it will be?

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Speaker 1: Because and I said this, I've said this in views

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Speaker 1: is when we're talking here as well, there is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a difference between Ken Dorsey and Brian Dable. You

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Speaker 1: just can't get around it. How long do you think

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Speaker 1: or how deep into this season do you think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get before we go in? You know, I see

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Speaker 1: it a a little bit more of this now, you know

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Speaker 1: before like like people like me, like me and soccer

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Speaker 1: moms and you know, you know, the clerk at the store,

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Speaker 1: We can all see the difference. How long is it

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Speaker 1: gonna take for that? To ask Matt Barkley that exact

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Speaker 1: exact question today, um, and he said, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to see it immediately because they're not gonna if it

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Speaker 1: ain't broke, don't fix it right right, And they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna come in and say, hey, we're gonna be a

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Speaker 1: two back, you know, passing offense. We're gonna go two titans. Now,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do some of that. I mean, obviously, Brian

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Speaker 1: Dable went five wide a lot last year and that

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Speaker 1: was they had a lot of success with that. It

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Speaker 1: was really interesting to see. But I think that in general,

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna see is Ken Dorsey is a very

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Speaker 1: flexible and adaptive mind, and I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: open to I mean, you guys have seen this in

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Speaker 1: the past. I'd go to New England in year fourteen

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Speaker 1: and Tom Brady was was the offensive coordinator. Okay, you'd

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Speaker 1: see Peyton Manning in Denver he was he was running

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Speaker 1: that offense out. And Josh Allen's not in your fifteen,

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Speaker 1: he's not in your fourteen, but he's in your five

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna see more ownership of the offense from

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Speaker 1: him in a collaborative process. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a huge change. A lot of people around

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Speaker 1: him have said, and Kenn himself said, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of Day Bowl principles. But I think you

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Speaker 1: will see him in part his footprint. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know what that looks like yet, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: they do either. Yeah, you mentioned you think the Bills

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Speaker 1: are a top three team. Vegas obviously has the shortest

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Speaker 1: odds on them for winning the Super Bowl. How likely

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Speaker 1: is that? I mean, the first seven games are a bear. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the first place schedule for you. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's fairly likely. I don't he Here's the thing

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Speaker 1: AFC West, you think about it, if the Chiefs don't

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, I'm not gonna, you know, jump into

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Speaker 1: the ocean or something like. It wouldn't be the most

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Speaker 1: surprising thing, only because there's four really good teams in

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Speaker 1: that conference. Yeah, and you can start to you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe Mahome has missed a couple of games all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden things go south, Right, that that's it. The

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Speaker 1: FCS is not that And so when I'm handicapping the

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Speaker 1: teams in the FC could get there, I think the

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Speaker 1: Bills have a little bit of advantage because there's not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Jets are not gonna be very good,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins still work in progress. That the Patriots, I

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Speaker 1: feel at the ceiling on them. So I feel the

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Speaker 1: most confident in saying that the Bills are gonna win

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Speaker 1: the division out of any AFC team, and so that

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Speaker 1: gives them the easiest path in my view, because I

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Speaker 1: know they're going to be in the playoffs in January.

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Speaker 1: I know they'll have a home playoff game at some point.

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Speaker 1: Maybe again first seven games you said, our bear starting

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Speaker 1: out against LA in a game that's always emotionally charged

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Speaker 1: will hurt. But I think they're going to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: I'm not too worried, and I think that they're a

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Speaker 1: Final four team to me, which is, you know, basically

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Speaker 1: a FC championship level for me. Yeah, we talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about the quarterbacks around and particularly now in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: You've got, you know, it's a long list, goes ten

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Speaker 1: deep in a sixteen team conference that I got a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that's got some chops. One of the things I've

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Speaker 1: noticed about Josh this year, and you mentioned the ownership

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Speaker 1: of the offense, is that it seems like now he's

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Speaker 1: coaching guys up. I mean he's talking to him between

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Speaker 1: play saying he wants this. He went before that he

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Speaker 1: was worried about his own game. He was dropping back,

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Speaker 1: he was throwing it. Now he would. You know, last

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Speaker 1: year he did a little bit more, particularly at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, But now he's starting the season

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Speaker 1: where he's having conversation where he is a little bit

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Speaker 1: more like those guys you mentioned an offensive coordinator type.

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Speaker 1: Do you see that And how big a step is that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think part of it is Josh is a extremely

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Speaker 1: comfortable in his surroundings because you think about not just

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Speaker 1: the continuity, but you know the way that this team

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Speaker 1: was built as far as you know, cap relief, the

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Speaker 1: first year at the line, the second year, the skill guys,

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Speaker 1: the third year, fourth year, last year be Josh basically

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Speaker 1: said everything is in place that remains true now And

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Speaker 1: so I think that what you're seeing now is Josh

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Speaker 1: saying I've got everything I needed to be able to

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Speaker 1: do anything on this football field, where again that's go

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Speaker 1: five wide, two running backs, whatever throw to the back

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Speaker 1: doesn't or he can do it all. And now I

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Speaker 1: think he sees the vision and I think he's more

639
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Speaker 1: comfortable saying this is what I want. Ken's gonna help

640
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Speaker 1: with that. Um, the backups are you know Matt Batpark

641
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: were talking about. I was usually impressed, but just just

642
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: sort of the broad vision of everybody knows what they

643
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: want this offense to be. And I think within that,

644
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: a guy like Josh was coming into his own and

645
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: his fifth year understands where where people should be on

646
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: a football field and how to get them there. Of

647
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: the three days you've been here, Kevin, is there a

648
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: new piece or two that you feel has kind of

649
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: stood out a little bit, maybe caught your eye? Um, yeah,

650
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I'll stop you right there. Safety Josh Thomas said, he

651
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: listens to our podcast, so he's number one, so the

652
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: best player on the team. Um, he stopped me on

653
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the field out there. Um, is there a new piece?

654
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that when you have

655
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: a dynamic running back, I think that we get that

656
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: that conversation starts to eat itself a little bit where it's, oh,

657
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: should he take a running back in the second round,

658
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: take him in the first round, And you know for

659
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: someone like uh, you know, whether that's Cook or you know,

660
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: taking a receiver in the fourth round. I think that

661
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: this offense is going to be really really, really interesting, UM,

662
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be able to do so

663
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: many different things. M Von Miller is one of my

664
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: favorite people on the planet. UM. I've spent thirty forty

665
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: minutes with him a couple of years ago and it

666
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: was probably one of the most interesting interviews I've ever

667
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: had in my life. Actually saw him yesterday. We chat

668
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'll tell you story. I was gonna

669
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: sweet this, UM, but when Vaughn was walking in, he

670
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: stopped some of the staffers because he had some suggestions

671
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: on how to sign more autographs. He's because he was

672
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: coming in. He was saying, you know, I don't know

673
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: if I go was able to get to everybody, like

674
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: maybe we should just switch it up so it can

675
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: sign more autographs. Like that's a I've never heard that before.

676
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of camps. I've never heard

677
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: that before. So that's a culture guy. That's a guy

678
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: who knows how to do it. And he's also just

679
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: still good. And Matt covered the Super Bowl. He's still

680
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: a really, really really good player. I can't so I

681
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: think on both sides of the ball, you're gonna see

682
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, the Bills are in the arms race. We

683
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: talked about the AFC. Every team is getting better seems

684
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: like weekly, and the Bills were a part of that

685
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And I think that

686
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: you see that in that's roster when you go down

687
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: the list of things you've looked at offensively with the weapons,

688
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: like guys like James Cookie mentioned in passing m O. J.

689
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: Howard is now a member of this team. Uh, Gabe

690
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: Davis is now elevated to the number two. UM. Josh

691
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Allen is who he is? UM, how do you anticipate,

692
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: you know, with Jamison Crowder, who is who? One of

693
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: the reasons one of the Bills signed him is it

694
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: makes the Jets worse and us back, right, because Jamison

695
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 1: Crowder has hurt this team when we've played the Jets.

696
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: He's been out one season with less than fifty catches, right,

697
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that you know has made his presents.

698
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: So all these new pieces come in to an offense

699
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: that has that was really really you know, on fire

700
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: at the end of last season. What do you see

701
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: in this point in training camp? If anything, it starts

702
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: with Gabe Davis. I mean that that is that is

703
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: a guy who his floor is high, his ceiling is incredible. Um,

704
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna see I think I don't

705
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: play fantasy football, but everybody I do I know who does,

706
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: is obsessed with with a guy like because you just

707
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: think about the numbers he's gonna be able to put

708
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: up on the other side, and Stefane Diggs is who

709
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: he is. I think that you're going to see some really,

710
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: really interesting stuff. So I expect it was amazing. One

711
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: of the things that I've talked to these guys about

712
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: is when when the New England playoff game, it was

713
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: statistically the perfect game, literally the first game in history

714
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: no turnovers, no field goals, no punts. Okay, so how

715
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: do you improve on perfection? That to me is the

716
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: question I asked Josh yesterday. I said, what's your motivation

717
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: when you did all you could last year? You know, well,

718
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: how do you how do you kick it into an

719
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: extra gear? And you know, his answer was probably what

720
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: you think it was, which is we didn't win at all, um,

721
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: And so you think about that every single day. But

722
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Speaker 1: I think that's the most interesting thing to me is

723
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Speaker 1: is how do you maintain that level? Um? What happens

724
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: if you get a couple of injuries and listen, it

725
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. Josh had that yesterday to me, said, I

726
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: think people have forgotten a little bit, and you know,

727
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: mid season last year, people were I don't know, he

728
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: may have an exactly anybody Sai. People would tell him

729
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make the playoffs and it wasn't. You know,

730
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: Mahomes had similar struggles, probably even more struggles than the

731
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Speaker 1: middle last season. So I think we're gonna see maybe

732
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: a more complete team because of the weapons. But the

733
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: bar is so high off of what day Bow established

734
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: last year, so I think even being what it was

735
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: last yearould quite accomplishment. Guys, How does a number one

736
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: defense in a handful of different categories from last year

737
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: get better? I mean, they felt their weakness was the

738
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: pass rush. They felt that was one of the reasons

739
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: thirteen seconds happened, let alone the third and fourth quarter

740
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: of that game where they couldn't stop them and the

741
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs couldn't stop the Bills. Is it is it an

742
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: oversimplification to say they felt they had to improve the

743
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: pass rush. They didn't, and they'll be an even better

744
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: defense this year because of it. Yeah, that was the thing.

745
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: So this time last year I talked to Brandon Bean

746
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: about this and he said they wanted to improve the

747
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: pass rush in the draft because that's how you beat

748
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: the chief And I'm here and they're saying the Chiefs, um,

749
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: they know where the barrier is. And frankly, it's a

750
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: nice problem to have, you know what I mean. There's

751
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: twenty teams right now who are saying, we just want

752
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, want to get seven seed whatever,

753
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: and and the Bills know what the benchmark is and

754
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: it's the Kansas City Chiefs. There's not a lot of

755
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: teams that can do that and say we want to

756
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: beat this team. Um, they didn't. They didn't do it

757
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: last year. But the way to do it is to

758
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: keep getting in that arms USh and keep adding so

759
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: we know what they need to do and they've, frankly,

760
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: in the off season done all they could can. Well,

761
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: you can say what you want about the pastors. We've

762
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: talked about it here at length. There's this debate between

763
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: coverage and pass rush. And certainly the Bills secondary is

764
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: solid as any in the NFL. All goes five across

765
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the board and they're all really good when they're all healthy.

766
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Speaker 1: Even that we didn't emas see Kayer Elam played snap

767
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: yet athletically he's there. Tradeavious White comes back whenever it is,

768
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: is gonna play like he plays. Uh and the rest

769
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: the pass rush, I mean, the problem is if your

770
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: pass rush wins all of a sudden, you're you don't

771
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: sack Pat Mahomes, you end up chasing him around. You

772
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: don't sack Lamar Jackson, you end up chasing him around.

773
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: You don't sack You know some of these guys, Russ Wilson,

774
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: you don't sack him, You chase him around. Derek Carr

775
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: the same thing. Um. So this passwords, while it's nice,

776
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: it also sets the offense up for a guy like

777
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who you don't sack. You just chase to

778
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: get Nikki with the big play. And where is the

779
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: balance and how do you sack these guys rather than

780
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: end up, just like I said, chasing them around. I've

781
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: seen the same studies you have about you know, PFF

782
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: and those sites saying it's more important to have covered

783
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: than than defensive line. And maybe I'm old school, sounds

784
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: like we both are. I want the front four getting

785
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: pressure all the time. Now, you could be a team

786
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins, which last year had the number one

787
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: pressure right in the NFL, and it hurt them because

788
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: they had to send so many guys to do it. Um.

789
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: But if you can get consistent four or five men

790
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: pass rush that that that's what I'd like to build

791
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: my team around. Right. Yeah, we saw that with the

792
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom and they were it was in my opinion,

793
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl win was the greatest defensive performance of

794
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: all time in a Super Bowl because of the offense. No,

795
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: it was better because of the offense they faced. Peyton

796
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: Manning offense with the Denver Broncos in that Super Bowl

797
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: against the Seacox was not just good, it was number one,

798
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: record breaking juggernaut. Right. It was a lot better than

799
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Speaker 1: sixteen in a thirty two team leaders. So the and

800
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Speaker 1: plus to your point, the reason I brought that up

801
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom was they got pressure right away

802
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: with just four guys, you know, Calais Camp and all

803
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: those you know, due to all those guys, quick pressure

804
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: with just four guys, and all of a sudden, you

805
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: got seven guys in the secondary all the time, and

806
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: you gotta get rid of it quick, there's just nowhere

807
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: to throw it, and also builds on itself because not

808
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: only do you the Sam Donald seen ghost thing that's

809
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: pretty common if if there's a lot of pressure, the

810
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, I was listening to to

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Speaker 1: Chris Long talked about this a couple of days ago

812
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: on his podcast, and a lot of times I think

813
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: we overlook how what a toll physicality can put in

814
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: a game. You know, he was talking about how, you know,

815
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: everyone says nobody ever wants you know, no, no, running

816
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: backs don't matter, but when you're tackling Zeke Elliott in November,

817
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: it matters. It matter, you know, and it's just you're

818
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: you're you're stuck in hell for for sixty minutes. And

819
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: so I think that there's um when you have a

820
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Speaker 1: dominant pass rush, those are just hitting guys, you know,

821
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Speaker 1: and you're getting the quarterback and he's getting hurt. And

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Speaker 1: I understand that having two shutdown corners in the outside

823
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: might frustrate them, but it's not hurting them. It's not

824
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: that level of physicality. So I'm gonna agree with you

825
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, And that's why Steve often references the

826
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson quote everybody's got a plan until you get

827
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: punched in the mouth. And that's what the Bills are

828
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: hoping to do to opposing offenses this year. Kevin, thanks

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Speaker 1: very much for the time. Appreciate you. Appreciate your carving

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Speaker 1: out some for us, and I'm sure we'll catch up

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Speaker 1: with you later on in the season. Enjoy the twenty

832
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: twenty two campaign. We'll be watching your stuff on the Ringer. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. All right, that's Kevin Clark joining us.

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00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: there will be a sunscreen booth to get you completely

850
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: covered and protect you to be using some of these

851
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Wagman's products like we have here. That's probably what they'll

852
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: be spraying all over you before you sit out in

853
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: the bleachers where there is no shade to be had.

854
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's hot. Yeah, it's beautiful. Though.

855
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: It was great today. Low humidity, unbelievable, so nice. Today

856
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: was like the perfect day even for the players, like

857
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: seventy eight. Come on, seventy eight, low humidity, that's a

858
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: football player's dream. And they only got shells on. They

859
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: didn't gonna have pants on you. Oh yeah, it's a

860
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: day of the beach. It's glorious out here. Come on.

861
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, And we'll have coach on a little bit

862
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: later on in camp and we'll probably talk to him

863
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: a little bit about some of the sun defense measures

864
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: that he takes. He's out there with long sleeves and

865
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: long pants. There's another guy that's happy. It's only seventy

866
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: eight degrees. Yeah, some people are genequely predisposed, you know,

867
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: fair skin. Yeah, he's fair. Plus your job has you

868
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: standing out in the middle of an open field, all right,

869
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: So he's always got that wide brim hat on. Yeah,

870
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: that's that's his look. You know. I still I mean,

871
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 1: I had some a nice person here in Rochester. We mentioned,

872
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: you know last week where you got right. Somebody sent

873
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: me one sent me up. It's not like mcdermot's. It's

874
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: one of those camp blue time camouflage. Yeah, that's that's yeah,

875
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: that's the for I forgot it today. I gotta bring it.

876
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: It's my first day. I kind of forget something, so

877
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: I forgot my bucket hat. Good lord that we are

878
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: asking you on the Twitter poll today to let us

879
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: know where and how you get your reliable information with

880
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: respect to training camp. Is it a the training camp

881
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: reports you here from here in other outlets? Is it

882
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: be your own eyes and ears or is it c

883
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: watching preseason games? Do you kind of hold your water

884
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: until you're seeing something close to real football and then

885
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: you make a call. Can let us know? At eight

886
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: oh three oh, five fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two,

887
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: five fifty then number to get on board here, seventy

888
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: seven percent of you just go buy the reports from

889
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: training camp. I know that not a lot of people say,

890
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: your own eyes and ears do you go to training

891
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: camp and you watch these players and most people don't

892
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: come out here every day. But seventy seven percent of

893
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: you get it from what you read and see online

894
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: or you know, well yeah, and if you can't make

895
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: it out here, you're kind of you're stuck with that.

896
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: You're stuck with that as your solution. So I you know,

897
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: I get it, and you know that's why we're here.

898
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: We're trying to provide a service. There's no bills fans,

899
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: there's no lack of outlets here. I mean every time

900
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: every radio station and TV station in the region is

901
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: set up, you know, posted up here with us. Every

902
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: station in the eighth County area of Western New York

903
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: is dispatch someone to provide a report of some kind

904
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: as to what's going on out here and listen to

905
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: their credit. Though bills fans only eight percent, almost nine percent,

906
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: like one in ten people depending on their own eyes

907
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: and ears, like I'll decide most of us know. I'm like,

908
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: I can't even do that. I'm just gonna tell you,

909
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm shocked by that number. That is that is surprisingly low.

910
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: It's it's word should be though, you know, most of

911
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: us don't know. We have some you know, we have

912
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: some regular callers on the show, and I would expect

913
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: about half of them to be like, I trust what

914
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: I see and that's what I go by. We do

915
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: in the regular season. When you watch these guys on

916
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: the field on Sunday and you got some you know,

917
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: catalog of information, maybe it's different then, okay, but do

918
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: you think that's a thing that builds is we're talking

919
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: about training camp slash preseason people just going out. I

920
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't see it. I don't watch it.

921
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: And maybe and maybe it's tilted this far right now

922
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: because today, for example, was a closed practice. It was

923
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: not open to the public. And so yeah, you are

924
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of relying on the reports that people like Steve

925
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: and I are providing. The thing that I'm amazed as

926
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: it people thinking back years passing where they do only

927
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: fifteen percent or fourteen percent of people say I did

928
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: by watching the preseason games. So when I see those

929
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: guys on the field and uniform in a game. That's

930
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: where I decide, that's where it gets close to real football.

931
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: So you would think that, yeah, you know what, let

932
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: me hold my water. Wait to make a judgment on

933
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: this guy until I see him in some live action

934
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: pads on real opponent. Even if the schemes are watered

935
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: down a little bit, at least we're playing a game

936
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: speed in an environment, you know, officials, the whole nine.

937
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: Maybe I can make a better assessment at that point.

938
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: I try to do some of that myself. Let's get

939
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: let's get in pads, let's get to the preseason and

940
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: see what happens. Because we get up there and I

941
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: kind of don't watch. I watched the game, of course,

942
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: because I'm doing them on TV, but if I would

943
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: I do. Most of the time when I'm not doing that,

944
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm watching a guy. I pick a guys, and how

945
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to see everything, right. So you pick a

946
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: guy and you watch him for a series, and you say, okay,

947
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: let's let's evaluate him on this one series, and then

948
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: I do that sum But because I'm doing the games

949
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: on TV this year once again with Andrew Catalan, you

950
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: kind of have to, you know, step back and watch

951
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: the alt kind of watch the whole thing. So I

952
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: don't get a chance to do that, but I think

953
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people do that. You pick your guy

954
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: and you think, okay, how's he doing. Yeah, And like

955
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: for people like us who are fortunate enough to be

956
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: here every day, you can pick and choose because you

957
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: have the time to make those individual evaluations and focus

958
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: in on a guy or two on a given day.

959
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Like for example, today, there was some old line d

960
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: line one on ones today and I said, I'm gonna

961
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: look at this. I'm not gonna watch. You know, you

962
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: you went down and watched wide receivers against dbs one

963
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: on one. I stayed over there and watch the big

964
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: uglies work against each other. And then there were still

965
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: some other people that went over to watch, you know, um,

966
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: linebackers and running backs work against each other a little bit. Yeah,

967
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: So you try to canvas it as best as you can.

968
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: But it is tricky. That being said, Steve, I will

969
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: say Greg Rousseau had a nice pass rush win today,

970
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: got up and under the offensive tackle, which for a

971
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: guy that stands six foot seven hard to do. It's

972
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: hard to do, but man, if if he can establish

973
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: that leverage and get that low. I mean he lifted

974
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: the guy almost clean out of his cleats and just

975
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: walk him back. Bill's fans have seen guys like Jason

976
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: Taylor be that guy for a long long time for

977
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: the Minami Dolphins. He's in the Hall of Fame now.

978
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: He was a big, tall guy like that, And you

979
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: get and if you have the ability to use that

980
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: to your advantage underneath, which is what exactly the opposite

981
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: of what you think those guys are going to be

982
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: able to do is get low enough on a tackle

983
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: because they're because they're so long. But if they have

984
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: that in their repertoire, then that changes the equation for

985
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: the tackle. He's got to you know, he's got to

986
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: gather up and make sure he doesn't get leveraged. And

987
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: when he's doing that, he's susceptible to what the long guy,

988
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: the tall guy can do really well, and that's swim

989
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: right over the top of it. So when he anchors

990
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: down to make sure he doesn't get under him, you

991
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: give them that little head fake like you're gonna get

992
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: under him. When he drops down. All of a sudden,

993
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: you're like this, you know, six foot seven eel and

994
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: you slither around him, and you know, and you can

995
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: strict the quarterback, so Greg the eel Rousseau. Right. But

996
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's just one more real weapon that

997
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: a tall guy has if he can, Yeah, if if

998
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's simple and it sounds simple. But if

999
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: you can do something that most guys you're height don't

1000
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: and they don't feel like they have to defend against,

1001
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: everything else gets better in your in your repertoire because

1002
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: now they don't know what the heck's coming. Oh he

1003
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: did that, and that's the last thing I expected. What's

1004
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: coming next? Right exactly? You got him right. We have

1005
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but when we come back,

1006
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: we will be joined by Bill's defensive coordinator, Leslie Frazier,

1007
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: will give us a synopsis of the first three days

1008
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: of camp for his defensive unit, among a host of

1009
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: other topics, including the progress being made by Kayer Elam

1010
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: and Terrell Bernard. We'll get to that when we return here.

1011
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: On one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

1012
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all

1013
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of

1014
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you state at Steve a blimp,

1015
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: we're not even in the straded beer of normalcy. All right,

1016
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker,

1017
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: along with Bill's defensive coordinator Leslie Frasier, joining us fresh

1018
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: off of day three of training camp. Out on the

1019
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: practice field. Session went a little longer today, coach, little

1020
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: extended team segment there, But you guys were working some

1021
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: base sets today against some one receiver sets and you

1022
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: get some three linebackers look something we don't usually see

1023
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: on her defense. Right, It was good, U. We had

1024
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: a chance to similate almost some game situations, primarily first

1025
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: and second down. We've been specializing in these first couple

1026
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: of days with third down and red zone. So the

1027
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: day first second down, which is where the majority of

1028
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: the game is played. So it was good you guys.

1029
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: Last year and we've talked about it a lot. You

1030
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's Milano and Edmonds are the only two

1031
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: linebackers on the field, like ninety percent of the time.

1032
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: Do teams try and pry you out of that? Oh yeah,

1033
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: they're teams and they're coaches in all seasons. Steve will

1034
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: ask me, hey, why do you guys, Uh, who came

1035
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: with the idea about nickel? Why do you guys wear

1036
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: nickel on first and second now against every person there?

1037
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: But these offensive coaches, they don't like to see that.

1038
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: It changes their blocking schemes a little bit. And we're fortunately,

1039
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, to have a guy like we do it

1040
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Nickel in Terrence who is superb. So he's got some grit,

1041
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: he's unique, he's unique. So yeah, uh, it's it's it's

1042
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: different for teams to see us in nickel and almost

1043
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: against almost every person there. So our listeners from the

1044
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: jump house out here looking ask out here. They want

1045
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: to know. And you know, we've seen this before. We

1046
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: saw the same thing few years ago with Trey m

1047
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: Everybody want to know how Trey's doing, how trade he's

1048
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: doing kier as you know, you and some of your

1049
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: fellow coaches have said, Noah's press man like the back

1050
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: of his hand. It's the play off that is going

1051
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: to require a little bit of a learning curve. I

1052
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: realize it's only three days and he's going against all

1053
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: pros like Stefan days in practice. Yeah, but how do

1054
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: you see the learning curve going so far? I think

1055
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: it'll be on going, Chris, because of what you said.

1056
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: In college, he was primarily or press corner. In our league,

1057
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: that's good, but in our defense and scheme, we do

1058
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: more than just play press, so he has to learn

1059
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: to play off and we began that process back in

1060
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: the spring and OTA's and he's made a lot of

1061
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: progress with some of the work he's done over the summer,

1062
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: and he'll continue to do that. So I think he's

1063
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: he's on target. He's gonna be fun. He's not afraid

1064
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: to ask questions too, because I see him going a

1065
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: Poyer like right after plays, Hey, what you know leverage,

1066
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: depth and whatever he's talking to them about. And you know,

1067
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Jordan and Mike are great in terms of passing on

1068
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: the knowledge. I know. One of the things about this

1069
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: team is you you've got a reputation and it's going

1070
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: to continue this year obviously of rotating those front guys

1071
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: through you know, but other than that, it's a hard

1072
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: team to get on the fielding the secondary, you can't.

1073
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to get on the field as a linebacker

1074
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: and as a as a corner and a safety because

1075
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: those guys are so you know, setting stone, do you

1076
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: have any or their morale problems, and these guys they're

1077
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: they're kind of waiting their turn, you know what I'm saying,

1078
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: because you you got some guys back there, and you're

1079
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: blessed to have them. Obviously they're great players, but it's

1080
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: the tailor two kind of position groups. The guys up

1081
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: front who everybody gets to play, and the guys in

1082
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: the back end who nobody else gets to play. Yeah,

1083
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: now you bring up a good point because if you're

1084
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: a good player, which we do have some quality backups

1085
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: and they're waiting a turn because we got some really

1086
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: good But the good thing is Brandon his son, they've

1087
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: done a really good job of a realist sign and

1088
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: high character guys, so they understand their roles and that's

1089
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: a big part of being successful as a team, and

1090
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: especially on defense, you know, understanding your role and going

1091
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: out and executing your role. And we've got guys and

1092
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: understand that, and then you just got to be read

1093
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: if something happens, you're the next man up, so you

1094
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: got to be ready to play. So, speaking of that

1095
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: defensive front, no knock on the guys that were here

1096
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: last year, but it just seems and appears at least

1097
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: from what we've seen on the field. And I realize

1098
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: pads aren't on yet, so judging D line play is

1099
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: an incomplete grade right now. But it feels like, even

1100
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: though you've got big guys inside, you have athletic guys

1101
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: through that group. And I'm talking you know, Settle Jordan,

1102
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: we know ed already, but these new guys, even de Quan,

1103
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: who can stand anybody up, he can penetrate too. Do

1104
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: you feel like the athletic and the athleticism collectively there

1105
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: might be an upgrade? Yeah? Yeah, I like the way

1106
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: you started off. You know, nothing against the guys we've

1107
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: had in the pass because they played good footballs. But

1108
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: this group, this size and that ceticism, the combination, yeah,

1109
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've ever had that. It's good,

1110
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: it's it's this is unique for us. I remember one

1111
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: year we would have smalled his defensive line in the NFL,

1112
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: and well, we're a long waisting that now, so we're fortunate.

1113
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: I found myself watching practice. I was tending on the

1114
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: sidelines and you know how to think, you know, they're

1115
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: moving one into the field the other, and I found

1116
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: myself sitting behind Dequan Jones and Jordan Phillips and Tim Settle,

1117
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, they got some good yeah,

1118
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: some good man. Yeah, yeah, is that a little bit?

1119
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: And you said, you know, certainly you've played defense with

1120
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: the smallest defensive line. I don't know that you're the

1121
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: biggest defensive line now. But how does it change things

1122
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: for you and your team when you know it's a

1123
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: little bit different story up front? And I know you

1124
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: played at the strength of your guys and you had

1125
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: a good defense when you were small guys. How's it

1126
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: changed your defensive call or your your philosophy? Yeah, I

1127
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: think as as time goals, and you and Chris said

1128
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: it earlier. When you get the padson, you really get

1129
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: a feel for where you are and what you have.

1130
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: And we're a few days away from that. But on paper,

1131
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, you like to believe because we're such such

1132
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: a bigger group and more athletic, that we're going to

1133
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: be stouter against the run and our split safety defenses,

1134
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: which will be a big helpful is now we don't

1135
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: have to be as much single high, especially with Trey Davis.

1136
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, potentially you know, being out which we don't

1137
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: know for how long you need to be able to

1138
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: mix in a little bit more split safety than single high,

1139
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: and that means being stout against the run, and if

1140
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: you got some big guys that are athletic, you think

1141
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: you have a chance to be better at that. Going

1142
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: back to Kayer briefly, what stood out today was there's

1143
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: a little jaw jacking going back and forth between him

1144
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: and the all pro out there during team We know, coach,

1145
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: we know you and Coach McDermott. You want a defense

1146
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: that plays sound, but it doesn't hurt if you got

1147
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: a little nasty to you because you're gonna be facing

1148
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: guys like that every single week. So to see that

1149
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: from the rookie like not backing down and going you know,

1150
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: he's not I'm not backing down like you want to

1151
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: see that, right, No, no question. That was one of

1152
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: the things when we were scouting him back in the

1153
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: spring that we saw in his game. I mean, in

1154
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: that sec he's playing against some top nine receivers every

1155
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: every week and there were some times where there were

1156
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: some confrontations and he never backed down. So that was

1157
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: part of why we liked him and one of the

1158
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: reasons we draft him when we did. Does it ever change?

1159
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: And I thought about this. You see guys, particularly the

1160
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: first couple of days of camp, young guys, both sides

1161
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: of the ball flash yeah and then like jump in

1162
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: with both feet like wow this you know, athletically they

1163
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: show up big time and then his training camp goes on,

1164
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: some of them disappear. Yeah, you know they end. Is

1165
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: there something behind that because it seems to happen every

1166
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: year to different guys, and some guys you know, even

1167
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: though they hang around on the practice one, it happens

1168
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: every year where they come in sharp and they kind

1169
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: of level off. It is there. Have you guys kind

1170
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: of analyzed why that is or can you get around that?

1171
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure exactly why, but it also

1172
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: makes you cautious. And Chris talked about it until you

1173
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: get the pads on because even going back and when

1174
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: we were playing, see there were guys when we'd come

1175
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: to our mini camp we didn't have the off season

1176
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: programs that we had today. But when we come down minicamp,

1177
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: I'll be being like, man, this guy's really really good

1178
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: and we put the pads one man. So I've learned

1179
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: over the years, until you get the pad zone, don't

1180
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: get too high about a guy you know it just

1181
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: the past change a lot of things. I was telling

1182
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: somebody today I was an all world seven on seven

1183
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: plays I waste. We talked to coach this morning about

1184
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: um Ken and Matt Smiley getting up to speed as

1185
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 1: new coordinators here and the fact that you don't really

1186
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: know until that play clock's counting down and you got

1187
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: to make a call. Now. I did ask Coach, can

1188
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: you just explain the opportunities that exist in practice? And

1189
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: he talked about your call it segments where you guys

1190
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: ask coordinators get to call it in real time to

1191
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: be as game like as possible. What is the interplay though,

1192
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: between you and maybe Ken? Are there conversations before practice

1193
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: where he might say, hey, you know, I want to

1194
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: work on this. Do you have any like I'm I

1195
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: gotta believe he wants to bounce stuff off of you

1196
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: as a defensive mind in terms of things that he

1197
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: wants to call in those called segments. Yeah, no doubt.

1198
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: And then there are situations like that, and we had

1199
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: some of those back in OTAs in the spring, where

1200
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: there are certain things he would like to see from us,

1201
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: and we'd obliged because it obviously helped us. Yes, we

1202
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: can help them and vice versa. There are times I'm

1203
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: going to ask him, for example, Hey, Kenny, we really

1204
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: need to see maybe more empty today. Can you give

1205
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: us a little bit more empty formations and so we

1206
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: can work on a few things. So, yeah, there's some

1207
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: dialogue like that between the two of us to help

1208
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: both units. Now, with those call it segments, does the

1209
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: offense get to kind of dictate or might sean allow

1210
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: you to kind of take the lead sometimes and put

1211
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: your stuff out there before and metforce can because it's

1212
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: usually the other way around. You're always react. And I'm

1213
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 1: wondering if this is one of the few times where

1214
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: you get to dictate a little bit. That doesn't happen

1215
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: very often. We're we're stealing a reaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1216
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: you know you're in the reaction mode when they spot

1217
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: the ballut's in your own end zone, right right, series

1218
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: start exactly, it starts in the end. You rarely see

1219
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: field position that poor right right, Yeah, And do you

1220
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: do you ever get to the point where, uh, you

1221
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: think at this point at camp and I want to

1222
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: know how it is at this point in history of

1223
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: the NFL where your installs are do you do all

1224
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: that you know what, what were you at with how

1225
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: much of the playbook is in? How much of it

1226
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: is it all in? And now you're honing it and

1227
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: finding out when you can use and where or just

1228
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: give the give the listeners an idea of where we're

1229
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: at at this point in history, at this point of

1230
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: the season for an NFL team, How does all that

1231
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: install and the timeline of getting it all in. Yeah,

1232
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: we're one of those UH teams where we really put

1233
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: a lot into the off season programs. The we we

1234
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: prestar our guys that that those OTS, that Phase one,

1235
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: phase two, that's where we lay our foundation for the season.

1236
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: So if we lay a good foundation, when things happen

1237
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: during the season, which they are so thell be some adversity.

1238
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: If we've laid a good foundation, we'll be able to

1239
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: get through some of that adversity we'll face in the season.

1240
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: So once we get to training camp, we're really repeating

1241
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: some of the things we've done in OTS. We've done

1242
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: our installation in OTAs. We've pretty much gotten everything in

1243
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: with the exception maybe one or two things, and then

1244
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: we're repeating that throughout training camp, trying to build the

1245
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: reps up and get the confidence and get our guys

1246
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: to play fast. And I think that's one of the

1247
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: reasons traditionally we've been able to get off to a

1248
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: good start in September because of the fact we've taken

1249
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: Phase one, Phase two, phase three of the offseason serious

1250
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: and we try to get our work done and then

1251
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: treat training camp the same way. Yeah, I think last

1252
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: two maybe three years you've been or at least three

1253
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: of the last four years you've been four and one

1254
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: out of September, you know what I mean. So it's

1255
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: really important and to get off to a fast startin

1256
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: b all cylinders. Week one is exactly the same as

1257
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: Week seventeen. They count the same, They count the same,

1258
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: and we know it's gonna be a bumping road along

1259
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: the way. So if you can do a good job

1260
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: early on, you know when November December comes, when those

1261
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: games pend him out a little bit more. Because you've

1262
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: done a good job early, you can weather the storm

1263
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: a little bit if if something goes wrong in mid

1264
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: season or a little bit later. The other rookie that

1265
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: a lot of our fans are asking us about is

1266
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard, And I don't you got a much more

1267
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: trained either than I do. But it just seems, at

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Speaker 1: least in the early going here, he sees it quickly.

1269
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: Like the anticipation skills, especially for a rookie, he seems

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01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: to be advanced in that area. Would you agree with that? Oh? Absolutely,

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01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: that was one of the things we saw when he

1272
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: was at Baylor. He's one of those guys who was

1273
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: really good and anticipating and really putting himself in position

1274
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: to make plays. And that's showing up. We saw it

1275
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: in OTA's were sinning now in these early days of

1276
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: training camp. He's a very smart player. He has a

1277
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: good feel for the game, and you combine that with

1278
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: his athleticism, you have a chance to have a really

1279
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: good player because he just I mean, sometimes rookies you'll

1280
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: see it on the field like they're not one hundred

1281
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: percent sure, they don't trust it. He seems to be

1282
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: confident and trusted and go. Yeah. He spends a lot

1283
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: of time Chris studying, okay, and then you know he's

1284
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: one of those guys who can take the classroom to

1285
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: the grass and some guys they struggling doing that. But

1286
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: once he learns it and he goes on the field,

1287
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's pretty confident about what he knows

1288
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: and then he when he sees something, he reacts to it.

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: Right now, it's interesting too because he you get this

1290
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: guy in there and he's playing the same position as Tremaine. Yeah,

1291
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: they couldn't be more different, right you know body, Yeah,

1292
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: because he's a small cook, you know, he he's this

1293
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: instinctive player, like go out and just play. And then

1294
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: Tremaine is such a you know, he's a guy with

1295
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: and he's he's kind of he's like ABC's real down there.

1296
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: He's got every and plus you know, he you know,

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01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: he elevates everybody. Tremaine ever elevates every because they're all

1298
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: lined up right and they're all you know, on the

1299
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: same page. Two completely different guy not say, for instance,

1300
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: the rookie gets a chance to back up Tremaine. Is

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01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: that cool? I mean, because you got two different guys

1302
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: that play a different kind of football, play in the

1303
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: same position, one backs up the other. What happens when

1304
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: something does happen and all of a sudden, either one

1305
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: of the other's got to play. Yeah, you know, I

1306
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: think it's uh just a plus for thrill to have

1307
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: a chance to watch Tremaine see how he handles the meetings.

1308
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: Take a look at the way he handles to walk

1309
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: throughs uh And, as you mentioned, he's a guy who's

1310
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: kind of like buy the book. He need that, you know. Yeah,

1311
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: and the players look up to Tremaine. They trust Tremaine.

1312
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 1: When he says we're gonna line up to the left

1313
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: or we're gonna line him to the right, they're all

1314
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: asking the questions. They know Tremaine knows what he's talking

1315
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: about and he's gonna get them lined up. Well for

1316
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: a young guy coming in to see that. Uh and

1317
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: and and see the respect that Tremaine has, I mean,

1318
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: who better to learn from. So if something were to

1319
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: happen to Tremaine, which we hope, you know, he plays

1320
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 1: all seventeen games no interest this season, two games both

1321
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: the regular season, you know you because of that, you

1322
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: think a guy like a Baylin or Threll, those guys

1323
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: will be able to step in as they're learning from

1324
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: Bectan's like Matt along with Tremaine. Coach is always good

1325
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: to sit down and chat with you, especially this time

1326
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: of year when we're trying to get a clearer picture

1327
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: as to what's going on. So thanks for helping us

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: out to say, look forward to talking to you later

1329
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: on in the season. That's defensive coordinator Leslie Fraser. You're

1330
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: joining us here. We're back with more in a moment

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's raiding, all right, Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Task here with you, and some NFL

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01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: news coming down the pike here. In the last half

1335
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: hour or so, ESPN's Adam Schefter reporting that San Francisco

1336
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: forty nine ers GM John Lynch, along with head coach

1337
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, met this morning with Jimmy Garoppolo, who, as

1338
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, has been rehabbing from an offseason shoulder surgery

1339
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: and basically has been for all intents and purposes, medically clear.

1340
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: That was last week. This week, the three men sat

1341
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: down together, according to Schefter, and after the meeting, Shanahan

1342
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: essentially told reporters, we've moved on to Trey Lance, So basically,

1343
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Jimmy G. Garoppolo's out as the starter anyway,

1344
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: and there Yeah, the writing has been on the wall,

1345
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: but to have the coaching steps come out this early

1346
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: in camp, say listen, Trey Lance is going to be

1347
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: our starting quarterback, says a lot teams. Now, I mean,

1348
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: here's here's what you're looking at. Thirty one other teams,

1349
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, Bills being one of them. I'm just saying

1350
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: all these teams that are looking for a quarterback will

1351
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: now have a choice to make if they want to

1352
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: get Jimmy Garoppolo. If he's going to be an upgrade

1353
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: like Carolina or New Orleans or where Seattle, they can

1354
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: sit back and say, oh, because the face at Seattle

1355
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: knows him as well as any other team any opponents

1356
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: who's played him, because they play him twice a year.

1357
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: So Seattle and all these teams could sit back and say, Okay,

1358
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: do we want Do we really want to be the

1359
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: team that gets him. If we do, we're gonna trade

1360
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 1: for him, because he's obviously done in San Francisco. If

1361
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: they don't, they're gonna say, listen, we'll take him, but

1362
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to trade anything for him. So they're

1363
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to take a chance on him hitting the

1364
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 1: free agent market, which means then they're gonna have to

1365
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: be the highest bidder. Now the guy's making thirty plus

1366
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: a year, so you're not maybe probably not gonna have

1367
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: to go that high, but you're gonna have to jump.

1368
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: San Francisco wants to get him off the roster. They

1369
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: made it playing today, Um, you're not carrying a backup.

1370
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna cost twenty seven million plus. That's just not

1371
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: good economics. Even in today's NFL. Well, some teams will

1372
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: do it if the other guy's not making anything. Yeah,

1373
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: but Trey Lance is in the third year of a

1374
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: first round quarterback second year, so yeah. Well, we'll see

1375
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: how long it takes for the Niners to find a

1376
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 1: new home for Jimmy g and where that might be.

1377
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: What Jimmy gunna take snaps this year? I think if

1378
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: Seattle makes the trade, yes where else? I don't know

1379
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: that there's any other places where he can land and

1380
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: definitively be the guy walking in the door Detroit. I

1381
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Is he that much better than Jared Goff?

1382
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that he is. I don't know that

1383
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: he is. So I don't see too many destinations left. Yeah,

1384
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: so it is puzzling that they waited until now to

1385
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: come out with this. I mean, this was, as you said,

1386
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: this was kind of the plan. I guess Houston. Yeah,

1387
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have connected those dots, you know,

1388
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 1: because Nick Kissario, who's in the front office there is

1389
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: the GM of the Texans obviously was in the New

1390
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: England front office when they drafted Jimmy Gee. So Atlanta

1391
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: there's a familiarity there. I would take Jimmy Gee over

1392
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, right, Um, Washington. I just don't know that

1393
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: Atlanta is looking to contend this year. You know, Washington

1394
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: might take him. I suppose you can make an argument

1395
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, there's some places out there. Yeah, you know, um,

1396
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: and all of them will. It's their job. I mean,

1397
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: if you're a GM, you're gonna kick the if you're

1398
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: a GM in Washington, Seattle, Atlanta, Uh, Detroit. I don't

1399
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: know the giants in Carolina. Don't they want to stir

1400
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: that pot. I kind of probably point. But all those

1401
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: other teams Detroit, Atlanta, Seattle, Washington, Um, they're gonna kick

1402
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: the tires on the guy, all right, right, Yeah, I

1403
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: mean I can't. Atlanta is a clear upgrade. Houston is another.

1404
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: Atlanta is a clear upgrade. I forgot about that. Houston. Yes,

1405
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: maybe Davis Mills fine, they can like him. Um, and

1406
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, not to be Cleveland might kick the tires

1407
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 1: on Jimmy knowing that they got another quarterback. They just

1408
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: signed Josh Rosen last week to be the fourth guy

1409
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 1: in there. Josh, Well, I don't know. I don't think

1410
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: much of him, But why would you have signed that guy?

1411
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: If you had, You'd rather have Johnny Manzelda. They've had

1412
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: enough quarterback trading issues between the guy they brought in.

1413
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it the guy they moved.

1414
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to get making jokes about it. But still,

1415
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're a GM of an NFL

1416
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: team you like your thought on Atlanta. I think that

1417
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 1: could be a possibility, but we'll we'll have to see.

1418
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: Um whether Arthur Smith thinks that guy's an upgrade, I do,

1419
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he does. Who's there, Marcus Mariota? Yeah,

1420
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:51,879
Speaker 1: because I I you know, Um, when he left New England,

1421
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: the word on him was they had those intangients. Guys

1422
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: liked playing with him and for him and stuff. Now

1423
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: I don't know that you know, his time and Francisco

1424
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: hasn't you know, sullied that perception of him. But I

1425
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: think the guys that play with him like him well enough.

1426
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they drafted Desmond Ritter in the third round

1427
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: at a Cincinnati and so a lot of people look

1428
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: at Marcus Mariota as a stop gap bridge quarterback. Whatever

1429
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: term you choose to use, Jimmy ge would be a

1430
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: better one, You'd be a better stop gap. The question is,

1431
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: are you're trading for that guy and giving up assets

1432
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: for a guy that's only gonna be a stop gap? Right?

1433
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing. I think, Why don't we just

1434
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: take our lumps here this year and then next year

1435
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: we'll get ridder on the field, and then we'll try

1436
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: to build from there. We'll see. I wonder that's the

1437
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: question is what's it gonna cost you? And do you want,

1438
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: you know, you want to make sure you get him,

1439
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: or you just gonna wait and see what he's gonna

1440
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: cost you. I think I think most of these guys

1441
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: just say, Okay, I know you're gonna cut him at

1442
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: the end of camp. We'll just wait and see. But

1443
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: then you're you know, then you're not you. He's coming

1444
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: into a new system. He's got to learn and get

1445
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: up to speed and all of that stuff. He's got

1446
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: to learn everything. You want him in there as fast

1447
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: as possible so we can get started in training camp,

1448
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: start learning stuff. Speaking of the Niners, there is other

1449
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,799
Speaker 1: news concerning them. Forty nine Ers GM John Lynch tells

1450
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: San Francisco media that he's had productive talks with Deebo

1451
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: Samuel's agent and though nothing is imminent, he's hopeful the

1452
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: team will have a new deal to announce in the

1453
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: near future. So as we remember, there was it still

1454
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: is a standing trade request from Deebo Samuel to get

1455
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: the heck out of Dodge in San Francisco, and the

1456
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: Niners are like, yeah, we're not gonna do that. So

1457
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: it looks like progress has been made between the Niners

1458
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 1: and Diebo Samuel's camp and we'll see what comes of it.

1459
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: What kind of money do you think he gets? Do

1460
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: you think he gets Tyreek Hill money? That's a really

1461
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: good question. I don't. I don't think he doesn't think

1462
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: if you're going to trade for a guy like Deebo

1463
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: Samuel's and give him the kind of money he's asked,

1464
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: they're trying to hold onto him. Here's the question you

1465
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: gotta ask yourself. It's this the gun of guy's going

1466
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: to take it out of gear when he gets the money.

1467
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he is. I don't know, but he's

1468
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 1: certainly strong, strong personality and confident enough to say, you know,

1469
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: I ain't you know, trade me or you know, give

1470
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: me the money. Yeah, that's a big statement from a

1471
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: young player. I don't know if that'll have some residual

1472
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: effects even if they give him the money. He's already

1473
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: talking about the whole reason he wanted out of San

1474
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: Francisco is because he didn't want to be utilized in

1475
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: the fashion that he's been utilized, because he knows his

1476
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: body's taking a lot of extra hits, you know, lining

1477
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: them up in the backfield and doing all that stuff

1478
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: besides just making him a receiver. Not to mention he's

1479
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: had some return work as well, but he was there

1480
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: to do everything guy, and he took a lot of

1481
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: lumps doing it. And I think after this season he's like,

1482
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: that was tough either. I don't know if I want

1483
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: to be doing all of that stuff unless you're going

1484
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: to pay me an exorbitant amount of money right where

1485
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: I can make in four years. This problem is what

1486
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: I might make elsewhere in seven or eight. Problem is,

1487
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: does he here's the problem and I all coaches and

1488
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: gms know this, and some fans conserve it too. When

1489
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: a guy is getting physically beat up and says, you

1490
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: gotta pay me if you want me to take this punishment.

1491
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: Once you pay him, he's not gonna take them. He's

1492
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 1: not gonna take the punishment anything. He's like, thanks, that

1493
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: was good. You know you're paying him for what he's

1494
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: already done, because he's not You're not going to get

1495
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: that out of him. Now. There's certain guys that doesn't matter.

1496
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: The money is irrelevant to them. They're gonna come out

1497
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: and they're gonna you know, they're gonna run through the

1498
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: brick wall anyway. But it's really and we talked about it,

1499
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, Leslie Fraser too. I Mean, you get these

1500
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: guys in there and that all they do is push

1501
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 1: against each other and bang, and it's it's a physically

1502
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: brutal game, and it's just too easy to take a

1503
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: deep breath and just not do it as hard as

1504
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: you once did. Once you've got the money in the bank,

1505
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks start running back Chris Carson retiring from the NFL

1506
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: due to a neck injury that, according to the NFL

1507
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: Networks Ian Rappaport. He is not going to make an

1508
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: official retirement statement because he's hoping his neck may dramatically improve,

1509
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: but right now that does not appear to be the case.

1510
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: So Seattle is going to officially release him with a

1511
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: failed physical designation under the CBA that allows Carson to

1512
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: receive several million dollars in injury protection benefits. So the

1513
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: team gives him that designation, so he is eligible for

1514
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: the insurance moneies that he will be paid based on

1515
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: what the remainder of his contract was. Now he doesn't

1516
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: have to officially retire, but with a team giving him

1517
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: that designation, he's open to getting those payments. And it's

1518
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: not like Seattle's caught with their pants down without having

1519
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: Chris Carson in the fold. They drafted Kenneth Walker, the

1520
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: running back out of Michigan State, in the second round

1521
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: last this past draft, and they resigned free agent Rashad Penny,

1522
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: so they have runners in the stable. They just will not,

1523
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: it appears, have the guy who has been their primary

1524
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: back for the better part of the last three seasons.

1525
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: That's rough too. You hate to see a guy have

1526
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: to put his whole career on pause. Um, waiting to

1527
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: get cleared like that, particularly with something you know as

1528
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: important as your neck, um kind of important. Yes, that's

1529
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: too bad, but you know, good good on the Seahawks

1530
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: for uh doing right by him, giving him a chance

1531
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: to get it back on track and be financially secure

1532
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 1: while he's doing it, giving him a chance to maybe

1533
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: resurrect his career to a later date. We did want

1534
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: to take an opportunity now while we have a little

1535
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: bit of time to pass along. Mica hides interview session

1536
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: with the media after practice today. So without further ado,

1537
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 1: here is Mica addressing the media the de couple practices. Um,

1538
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, we knew uh coming into this obvious and

1539
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: um many camp that uh you know, the defense is

1540
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a's gonna be a problem. So, um, you

1541
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: know those guys up front, they're working, um, great coaches,

1542
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: great players up there, and so you know we know

1543
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: that there's uh, there's opportunities from us in the back

1544
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 1: end because of it. You guys on the roster, how

1545
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: do you help get them up this fasion? You know

1546
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 1: there are new guys on the roster, but it doesn't

1547
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like that. Um, you know we Obviously

1548
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: we have our guys that have been around here for

1549
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 1: the last five six years. Um, then sprinkling you know

1550
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,600
Speaker 1: a few other guys, but it really doesn't feel like

1551
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: there's you know that many new guys on the roster,

1552
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: so um, you know, coming back here just it just

1553
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: feels like home. You know, everyone's joking around, having fun,

1554
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 1: making fun of each other. And that's how it's always been.

1555
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: As we have all these phases of the offseason, and

1556
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: every phase you're kind of working on something different. What

1557
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: is like the kind of specific mindset once you finally

1558
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: get to camp and how does it differentiate from like OTAs,

1559
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 1: Mini camp and all that other stuff. Well, I think

1560
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: that training camp is more of like just the mental grind,

1561
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: the mental grind, and also you know coming together as

1562
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: a team. Um you know throught OTAs and and mini camp.

1563
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: You know you can you're there for a few hours,

1564
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, you're hanging out and stuff like that, but um,

1565
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: you know we're here all day every day, working out, um,

1566
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: practicing together, which is you know tough. Um, you it's

1567
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: you know hot, but you know the weather's taking care

1568
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: of us. And then you know, from there and having

1569
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: meetings all day and in between meetings you have break

1570
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 1: so you you know, can hang out with guys, play cars,

1571
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: get to know people, get no young guys. Um. And

1572
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: that night, you know, you have snack and all that

1573
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: stuff too. So you just around each other all the time.

1574
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: And once we get to the dorms, we're also you know,

1575
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: hanging out doing the same thing you heard. You know,

1576
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: I heard guys upstairs yesterday arguing about ping pong um

1577
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: and and all that type of stuff. So that's just

1578
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 1: what we do. And you know, it's just it's fun

1579
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 1: to be around everybody and and get to get to

1580
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 1: know everyone. And that's what training camps for. I know

1581
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: it's only about a couple of days of camp so far,

1582
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: but in those couple of days, what more have you

1583
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: learned about kyer Elm? And just what more have I learned? Um,

1584
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: I don't think I've learned anything more necessarily, I think

1585
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, first day I met him, you could tell

1586
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: he's just a young guy that's listening and wants to

1587
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: get better. Um. And that's how he's been these first

1588
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: couple of days. Um. You know, he's he's all ears,

1589
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: he wants to know, he wants to learn from the

1590
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: older guys, of of of how to get better and

1591
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 1: what to do. UM. So I don't think I've learned

1592
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 1: anything anything new. It's just been you know, that's just

1593
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: that's just how he is. Um. What if it's meetings,

1594
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: he's he's sitting next to us, he's asking us questions. UM.

1595
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: On the field, after each player, he's asking us questions. So, UM,

1596
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a young guy, UM. You

1597
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: know asking the older guys. You know, you know how

1598
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,879
Speaker 1: they go about business, whether if it's after after practice,

1599
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, getting some work in or or extra phone

1600
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: work stuff like that. How much then maybe try to

1601
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 1: speed it up simply raps or there are other things

1602
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,759
Speaker 1: you can do, because certainly you had some great continuity

1603
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: with zy by Trey. Yeah, well I think that. Uh.

1604
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: I think with Kay he's he's been fortunate enough to

1605
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: be put in a position, you know, to whether it's

1606
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: the coaches that we have in the secondary on defense, um,

1607
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: or even the players. You know, he's he's able to

1608
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: step in right now with some guys that have been

1609
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: together for a long time, and and so he hears

1610
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. He hears how we see things

1611
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: in meetings, and so Um, you know, he can paint

1612
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: the picture of himself and just by asking the questions

1613
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: that he asked. So, UM, I think I think, you know,

1614
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: I can't speak for him, but I feel like, you know,

1615
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: if I'm a young guy in his position, I'd be

1616
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: real fortunate to step in that position. And we're not

1617
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 1: asking him to be, you know, anything that he's not.

1618
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: Just go out there and play your ball. He's gonna

1619
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: have mistakes. Every rookie does. My rookie year. You know,

1620
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: I made a lot of mistakes, But as long as

1621
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: you learn from those mistakes, you'll be fine. Be a

1622
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: better question for the coaches. But being a leader in

1623
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: this secondary, how do you guys balance you know, maybe

1624
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: not putting too much on his plate right away and

1625
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: not putting too much the pressure on him, but also

1626
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: there is a need for him to get up to

1627
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 1: speak quickly here. Um, Honestly, everybody has a sense of urgency,

1628
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like with him obviously being a

1629
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: young guy, like you said, to give to speak quick

1630
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: myself playing at a high level, like I've been able

1631
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 1: to do, same thing for Post, same thing for Travis Tarrant, everybody.

1632
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: So we all have our things that we have to

1633
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: work on. And I can honestly say, when I step

1634
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: on the football field with those guys, I don't feel

1635
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: like I have to be anything. I'm not just playing

1636
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 1: my bax. I know they're gonna take care of their business.

1637
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: So you know, it's kind of like the the um

1638
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: thing that calls me down when I get out there.

1639
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 1: So I think the same thing for him, like, just

1640
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: go out there and play your ball, and you know,

1641
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: know the defense as long as you know the defense

1642
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,600
Speaker 1: can put you in business to make plays and you

1643
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: know from there you gotta winr one on ones. Um.

1644
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: So that's just what we're telling him. You've had, oh

1645
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 1: yeah and played tens of dollars of snaps. But Georgian Poyer,

1646
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 1: what's it like when your colons out earlier? You know

1647
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 1: it's obviously it's not, you know, ten thousand snaps, but

1648
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 1: colans have been here for a while. Um. You know

1649
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: he's been in the meetings with us, he's talking aball

1650
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: with us plenty of times. Um. You know, obviously a

1651
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: great player also, so you know when he steps inating,

1652
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: we don't skip a beat. You know, we all we

1653
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 1: all learn from each other. We all talk um as

1654
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: if you know, it's just me and Pop out there,

1655
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: so UM, quans really coming along. I think he has

1656
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: a lot to show them this you know, this season, UM,

1657
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for him. You've played a lot of

1658
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: snaps behind Tremaine admits we just got a chance to

1659
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: talk to him. We always tend to ask him about

1660
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 1: splash plays, big plays. Is he capable of those talent

1661
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 1: by you know, what his role is in the defense.

1662
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever talk about things like that with

1663
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: him or is is Do you think it's common for him? UM?

1664
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: I feel like with with Maine, UM, obviously he's a sideline.

1665
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: The sideline guy can make tackles and all that the

1666
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 1: type of stuff. I know that UM, you know himself

1667
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: in past years he's um talked about you know, obviously

1668
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: catching the football and making plays that way, but you know,

1669
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: working on the jugs and stuff with him. UM. Even

1670
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: in you know, these last couple days in training camp,

1671
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: you can tell he's been doing that, UM, and not

1672
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: just him, a lot of them too like that. You know,

1673
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: we do the jugs a lot during the season, and

1674
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: you know they've they've kind of picked up on what

1675
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: we've been able to do. So Um, I know those

1676
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: plays will come. You know, you can't force him, you

1677
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: can't get out of position to try to make those plays.

1678
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: Just stay within the defense, and um, you know Man's

1679
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge playmaker for us, like he always

1680
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: always has been. I talked earlier about how difficult to

1681
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: be for a guy like Nasher I've been going through

1682
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: the contract stuff the first time, but something like yourself,

1683
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: he's been through a couple of times, and Jordan going

1684
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: through it down for the third time. How much easier

1685
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: does that get? Um, I think you know, at the

1686
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, you always got you always gotta

1687
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: understand this is the business. Um, you know, we're all

1688
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: we're all guys that have been playing football our entire

1689
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: life for the front of the game, and then you

1690
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: get put in the position that you have to take

1691
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: care of your family and you know you have to

1692
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: do what's best for yourself. It's it's a very awkward

1693
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: thing to be a part of it, not to mention,

1694
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, negotiations with your you know, Asian and front

1695
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: of all that type of stuff. Um, it's it's it's

1696
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: kind of a weird situation of being because we've never

1697
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 1: really been in that position for the first time, Like

1698
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 1: you said, those guys, Um, but at the end of

1699
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: the day, you kind of got to put your head

1700
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: down and do what you've been doing your entire life

1701
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: and let's just play football. Like you can't really worry

1702
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: about that stuff. Um. You know you're you're Asian and

1703
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: and um, you know, guys in front office is gonna

1704
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: take care of it, so you can't really pay attention

1705
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 1: to it. Has been from addressing camp from your rookie

1706
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: year up to now, I mean, what's what's that approaching?

1707
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 1: M Well, rookie year, I was trying to just survive.

1708
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: I was just trying to make it. Um, I didn't

1709
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: really know anything. I was just you know, out there

1710
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: just trying to trying to make some plays. Um. Now,

1711
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, I think I've developed a routine throughout the

1712
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: last couple of years to to be able to put

1713
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: me a position, you know, come training camp, to mentally

1714
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 1: and physically get ready for football. Um. And I still

1715
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 1: understand that it's a process now until the end of

1716
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: the season. It's a process. Like I'm gonna make mistakes.

1717
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 1: Now even though it's year ten, I'm gonna still make mistakes.

1718
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think that I'm able to

1719
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: pick up on them, you know, a lot quicker just

1720
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 1: being in year ten. But um, yeah, you know that

1721
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: was such a long time ago that it's it's a

1722
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 1: hard to even you know, remember half of stuff. But

1723
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: I was trying to survive then. Now I'm trying to, um,

1724
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, make plays, continue to be in that process

1725
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: and get the guys around me better. It mightn't be worse. Um,

1726
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: it might be worse. Just know, you know, you know,

1727
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: if football there is a football is a game you

1728
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: don't play for for thirty years. Um, And so I

1729
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: have had that urgency now that I and I've told

1730
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: you guy this last year, I want to win a

1731
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. A lot of my my friends, um have rings.

1732
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: I see guys I work out with that have have rings.

1733
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm I'm competitive. Um. I feel like

1734
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: I work harder than those guys and they got rings.

1735
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: So I feel like I should I should have one. So, UM,

1736
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: what was that as most eager to show you to ring.

1737
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put guys on blast. I'm not gonna

1738
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put put guys on blast. But um,

1739
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: you know there's a few guys that have some rings

1740
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: that you know, aren't afraid to h to talk about it,

1741
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 1: and um, just the whole experience. And you know, I

1742
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: understand it. You know, I know that if we'll win

1743
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: one day, you know I get one, I'm not gonna

1744
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: shut up about it either. So I understand, all right,

1745
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 1: Mike Hi saying, hey, get me a ring. That's why

1746
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm here for a year ten And uh feels he

1747
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: works harder than just about anybody else to try to

1748
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: get one. So I hope he's right. Hope it happens

1749
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, he's sitting in a pretty good spot

1750
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: from this end of the season. Yeah's the right place. Yeah,

1751
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see if if they can close the deal

1752
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,600
Speaker 1: this year. It's not easy to do. They've been on

1753
01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: the doorstep for a while. Now see if they cross

1754
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: that threshold. We have to take a break here, one

1755
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: more segment to go, and when we come back, what

1756
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: did Bill Belichick say about second year quarterback Mac Jones.

1757
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: We'll tell you when we return here on one Bill's Live,

1758
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: presented by a lot of health It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1759
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: All right, we closed today's show with what Patriots head

1760
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: coach Bill Belichick said about second year quarterback Mac Jones.

1761
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: He said he's made where he's seen dramatic improvement in

1762
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 1: mac Jones this offseason. He said, Jones is starting from

1763
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: a much much higher point this year than last year. Okay,

1764
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: that I could see that being the chase. The funny

1765
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: thing is the New England media is saying this is

1766
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: more that Bill Belichick has said about mac Jones than

1767
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: he ever said positive about Tom Brady in twenty years.

1768
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean anything. He never threw bouquets. That's because

1769
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady thrived on on the challenge on negative reinforce.

1770
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Yes he did, and so and Mac Jones maybe somebody

1771
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: who needs to have his back pattern or there's tummy

1772
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: rubbed make him play better. So that's I'm serious. A

1773
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 1: coach knows how to motivate his guys, and if and

1774
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: if mac Jones thrives on positive reinforcement, Bill Belichick is

1775
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 1: gonna give it to him. And you're gonna see Bill

1776
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: Belichick throwing bouquets at this if that's what makes him tick,

1777
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: because that's why that's why this game works. Yeah, and

1778
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: that's what head coaches do. They find out what motivates

1779
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: a guy and they give it to him and they

1780
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 1: get you know, they get better play because of it.

1781
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of the social media posts

1782
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 1: about mac Jones trimming down. He's in better physical shape,

1783
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: he's added strength to his upper body. All those things

1784
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: are good. The general consensus up there is they're gonna

1785
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: have a more balanced attack, so we'll see if that

1786
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: is in fact the case. I never really saw any

1787
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: one person stand out last year, so I don't really

1788
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: know how it's going to be different, but we shall see.

1789
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: That's going to do it for us Here on a Tuesday,

1790
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: Steve and I will see you're right back here, same

1791
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: bad time, same bad channel. On Wednesday at one