1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Andie and Samantha and a welcome to 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: Stephane never told your production of I Heart Radio any 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: With all of that, preparing for us to get to 4 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: this point, I still had to like, did you hear 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: my creopy from my name? I can't get it together. Oh, 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I think you've got it perfectly well together. Some thanks. 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: We are in the midst of a cold snap here 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: in Georgia, listeners, and I am shivering, So I hope 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't come through, but if it does, just to 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: know I'm in my little closet, very cold, decked out 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: for winter inside. Well, I mean when we took pictures 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: in the office, you look the same. You had the beanie, 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: the gloves, puffy jacket, even in our pictures. So I 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: feel like this is part for the worse, I suppose so, 15 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, I have the delight of having it. And 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: if anybody has been following me on Twitter, which not 17 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: too many people do, they know that I've been complaining 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: about the mildness of the weather, meaning like it was 19 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: forty degrees and I was phreezing and I didn't like it. 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: And now we're in the thirties, approaching twenties, and I 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: have made the smart decision of getting an electric blanket. 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: Why changer. She has ragged about it several times today. 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: To me, it's amazing. As I sit here shimmering, she 24 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: shows off electric I just want you to know what 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: good purchases when they're made. Well, I appreciate it. Thank 26 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: you for revving it in my face. I don't have 27 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: gloves on. I just want to say that, yes, well 28 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: I do, she does. They aren't doing as well of 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: a job as I would hope, But that's all right, 30 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: that's right. Today we're not just talking about the cold No, no, 31 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: we're also talking about the Supreme Court, right. Uh. Yeah, 32 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: we actually are taking a suggestion from our social media 33 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: and looking at the history of the women of the 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. And not surprisingly, it's not a very long 35 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: history and very small amount. Not a great thing. It's 36 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: very disheartening in fact. But yes, um, so all these 37 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: listeners keep the suggestions coming. We do take them into 38 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: account and we love to do episodes on them. And 39 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: this was a great idea, Yeah it really was. And 40 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: um Andy, do you did you know how many Supreme 41 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: female Supreme Court justices there were before this episode? I 42 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: did not me either, So Yeah, before we talk specifically 43 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: about the female justices, so we wanted to do a 44 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: review of the history of the United States Supreme Court. 45 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know much of the history. Um. I feel 46 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: like that would have been something I probably did cover 47 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: in high school. But because I am in my forties now, 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of been shoved out of my head as 49 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: my space of uh knowledge has gotten smaller. So um 50 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: but just but out there. As of today, there have 51 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: been one hundred and fifteen justices, and Annie only five 52 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: of them were female, Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 53 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Sonya Sotomayer, Elena Kagan, and Amy Coney Barrett. That is 54 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: such a small and depressing number, right, And also those 55 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: are very recent, yes, very recent. Yeah. Um. The current 56 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Justices are John G. Roberts, Jr. Who is the Chief 57 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Justice and was appointed by George W. Bush in two 58 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: thousand five, Clarence Thomas appointed by George H. W. Bush 59 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: in Stephen Breyer appointed in ninety four by Bill Clinton, 60 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: Samuel Ledo appointed by George W. Bush in two thousand 61 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: and six, Sonya Sotomayor appointed by Barack Obama in two 62 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: thousand nine, Elena Kagan also appointed by Obama in and 63 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump wanted the following Neo Gorsick in twenty seventeen, 64 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: kevanaugh in twenty eighteen, and Amy Coney Barrett in twenty twenty. UM. So, yeah, 65 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk a little about the origins of 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. So the Supreme Court was established in 67 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: seventeen eighty nine, signed off by President George Washington through 68 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: the Judiciary Act of seventeen eighty nine, which was established 69 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: as a tribunal containing six justices who would serve until 70 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: death or retirement. The Supreme Court was established under Article 71 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: three of the U. S Constitution and was given quote 72 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: ultimate jurisdiction over law, specifically anything to do with the 73 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: constational rights. And it wasn't until eighteen sixty nine the 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: number of justices was established and it has remained the 75 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: same since nine justices. However, the number can be changed 76 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: by Congress at any time, and in fact, before eighteen 77 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: sixty nine, Abraham Lincoln had ten justices and Franklin D. 78 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: Roosevelt tried to establish fifteen justices by stating justices over 79 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: seventy must design or fdr at a point an additional 80 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: justice if they refused to do so. During his administration, 81 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: he proposed all this, but it was voted against by 82 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: the Senate. And in just in case you're wondering, uh, 83 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: though the appointment is a lifetime appointment, justices can be impeached. 84 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: The only one justice I've ever been in peach who 85 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: was Samuel Chase in eighteen o four, but he was 86 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: acquitted and served until his death. And as of recently, 87 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has received around ten thous annual review requests, 88 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: but actually only here's around eighty of them. Yeah, so 89 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: a d out of ten thousand. Can you imagine you 90 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: had a job or you had to cipher through and 91 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: being like, okay, this is a good one, this is good, 92 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: this bad? Well, all right, let's talk about the ladies, 93 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: and let's start with Sandra Day O'Connor, who was appointed 94 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court by President Ronald Reagan in nine 95 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: and was unanimously approved by the Senate and became the 96 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: first woman to serve the Supreme Court. Justice Judge O'Connor 97 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: was known as a moderate conservative and was a key 98 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: swing decision for many important cases throughout her time in 99 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, including the case of Planned Parenthood versus Casey, 100 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: which upheld the previous Rovwaight abortion rights decision, and Bush, 101 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: the Bush by Gore case, which ended the recount votes 102 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: in the two thousand presidential race, which certified the original 103 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: outcome of Florida's electoral votes. Yeah, and interestingly, as we've 104 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: heard a bit about this during this election term, O'Connor 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: later stated, quote, perhaps the Highest Court should not have 106 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: weighed in because of the circumstances of the contentious election. 107 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: So talking about whether or not the Supreme Court you 108 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: have anything to do with anything election wise and voter wise. 109 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: So I thought that was an interesting side note because 110 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: she taught on that since after she retired, and about 111 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: whether or not that was something that they should have done. Um. 112 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: And then Judge O'Connor is one of only three retired 113 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: justices still alive today. And she definitely went through some 114 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: challenges while starving, including battling breast cancer in nineteen eight 115 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: and she underwent inmossectomy. However, she didn't retire until two 116 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: thousand six, and that was partly due to her husband, 117 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: who was diagnosed with Alzheimer's at that time. And then 118 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: we have Ruth Bader Ginsberg. Of course, UM and We're 119 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: just going to do a quick run through of her 120 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: history and records, because we have done previous episodes on 121 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: her and you can check them out. UM. Ruth Bader 122 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Ginsberg was appointed to the US Court of Appeals in 123 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty by President Jimmy Carter and then appointed to 124 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court in n by President Bill Clinton. Justice 125 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: Ginsberg was known as a moderate liberal, and some people 126 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: had concerns of her coming from a social advocate background, 127 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: but she was also unanimously confirmed by the Senate with 128 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: a nine to three vote right and she made history, 129 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: of course, throughout her career as a strong voice in 130 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: favor of jinjo equality, lgbt Q rights, and the separation 131 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: of church and state. She wrote the nineteen NINETI six 132 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: decision in the United States the Virginia which stated the 133 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: States supported school the Virginia Military Institute could not refuse 134 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: a mission to women. She also garnered a lot of 135 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: attention in her descending opinion in the Bush Vigor case, 136 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: which we talked about with Sandra Day O'Connor, which helped 137 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: Bush win the presidential election. UM, and she concluded her 138 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: decision with the infamous phrase quote I dissent and towards 139 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: the end of her career, she helped uphold two significant rulings, 140 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: the King versus Burwell, which helped upheld the two thousand 141 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: ten Affordable Care Act, and the overk Filled versus Hodges 142 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: that made same sex marriage legal throughout the entire country. 143 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Throughout her career, RBG had her fair share of health difficulties, 144 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: including colon cancer, pancreatic cancer, and lung cancer, but she 145 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: continued to serve until her death on September eighteen twenty. 146 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: So we have some other women we want to talk about, 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: but first we gotta pause for a quick break for 148 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: from our sponsors. Harry back, Thank you sponsor, and we're 149 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: back with Sonya Sotomayor. UH Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayora 150 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: was appointed in two thousand nine by President Barack Obama 151 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: and became the first Latina Supreme Court justice in US history. 152 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: She was previously appointed by President George H. W. Bush 153 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: to the U. S. District Court, which at the time 154 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: made her the youngest appointed judge. Along with RBG, Justice 155 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: Soda Mayor also was a majority ruling for the burgher 156 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Feil versus Hodges case, which legalized same sex marriages She 157 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: also wrote the Descent for Utah versus Edward Justice Strife, Jr. 158 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: Which was a case involving the Fourth Amendment to prevent 159 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: unlawful surgeantigures. In it, she wrote, quote, the mere existence 160 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: of a warrant not only gives an officer legal costs 161 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: to arrest in such a person, it also forgives an 162 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: officer who, with no knowledge of the warrant at all, 163 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: unlawfully stops that person on a whim or a hunch. Um. 164 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: And at that point she was arguing against the fact 165 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: that the decision allowed for quote, evidence found by police 166 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: officers after illegal stops may be used in court if 167 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: the officers conducted their search just after learning that the 168 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: defendants had outstanding warrants, which was very problematic, and that 169 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: this was kind of that whole um racial profiling. Oh, 170 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: you look suspicious, I'm gonna go ahead and start you. 171 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: Oh I found something, even though it was illegal, I 172 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: can now use it in court. Um. And she went 173 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: on to speak about the incident of the killing of 174 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, writing again, the Department of 175 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: Justice recently reported that in the town of Ferguson, Missouri, 176 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: with the population of twenty one sixteen thousand people have 177 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: outstanding warrants against them. My gosh. But by legitimizing the 178 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: conduct that produces the double consciousness, this case tells everyone 179 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: white and black, guilty and innocent, that an officer can 180 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: verify your legal status at any time. It says that 181 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: your body is subject to invasion while courts excuse the 182 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: violation of your rights, implies that you are not a 183 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: citizen of a democracy, but the subject of a cartial 184 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: state just waiting to be cataloged. Uh. And I think 185 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: that was really significant, even though obviously that went through 186 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: h in her argument was very very appointed and right 187 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: on to me. Um. She is currently still seated as 188 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. Now, let's talk 189 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: about Justice Atlanta Kagan, who was the one d and 190 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: twelve Supreme Court justice appointed by President Barack Obama. In 191 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Justice Gigan was already pretty familiar with the process of 192 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,119 Speaker 1: becoming a justice, as she was appointed by then Senator 193 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in nine as the Special Counsel of the 194 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Senate Judiciary Committee. She even worked on RBGS confirmation hearing. 195 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: That was cool. Um. She was also appointed by President 196 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: Obama in two thousand nine to be the US Solicitor 197 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: General and confirmed by the Senate to make her the 198 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: first woman to serve as a US Solicitor General. It's 199 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: also interesting to know that she had not been a 200 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: judge before her appointment in the Supreme Court, as well 201 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: as the fact she had been blocked by the Senate 202 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: in n from serving as a US Court of the 203 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Pills in d C. Which led to her becoming dean 204 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: of Harvard Law Um. And also just to add, she 205 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: served as a clerk for Supreme Court Justice their Good Marshal. 206 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: She is seen as more of a centrist and is 207 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: known as a quote bridge builder for the opposing sides. 208 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: She has the reputation of trying to find common ground, 209 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: and her votes have not always been predictable in comparison 210 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: to other liberal justices. She's not known for many written opinions, 211 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: but she did write the dissent for the twenty nineteen 212 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: case in regards to jerrymandering, stating, quote, the practices challenged 213 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: in these cases and peril our system of government. Part 214 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: of the Court's role in that system is to defend 215 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: its foundations. None is more important than free and fair 216 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: elections with respect but deep sadness by dissent. But her 217 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: recent votes have been a little more conservative, UM, including 218 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: being the majority to allow businesses to exclude employeers with 219 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: religious or moral objections from helping to provide contraceptives, which 220 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: to under the Affordable Health Care Acts. Artists something to know. 221 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: She's not as predictable as you would think. Uh. And 222 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: by the way, she is also still serving as an 223 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: Associate Justice and that brings us to Amy Coney Barrett. 224 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: And we already did a Monday Many covering the confirmation 225 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: of her, so we we won't go too much into 226 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: her history in this episode. Um. She just recently participated 227 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: in her first capital punishment case, which lifted this day 228 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: of execution for Orlando Hall in Washington, who was put 229 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: to death after an hour the Supreme Court an hour 230 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: after the Supreme Court made the decision. Right, and because 231 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: this is an emergency application, is not known whether she 232 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: voted with the majority or not, although many speculates she's 233 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: most likely dead. Um. There were notes a descent from 234 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: Justice Prayer so to Mayor a and Kagan, but not 235 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: from her, and this would have been an interesting case 236 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: to note for her due to her strict Catholic faith 237 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: and her past comments of her faith in capital punishment. 238 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: She has said that she would not be in favor 239 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: of at execution as a child judge, but would feel 240 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: it was different for the case of someone who's already 241 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: on death row, which is very interesting. Um. And yeah, 242 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: we will be watching as things continue to unfold. Um. 243 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: This is it's pretty new, so we'll see what happens. Um. 244 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: And just a side note about the capital punishment stuff. 245 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: We've been seeing a lot of cases going forward just 246 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: recently in front of the Supreme Court about capital punishment 247 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: and people on death row, including the fact that there's 248 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: a conversation about whether or not turning to General bar 249 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: is trying to bring back execution electrocution style and by 250 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: US barring squad. So I'm not really sure what's happening, 251 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: but about feeling we're backtracking when it comes to death 252 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: penalty cases. Um. And I don't know, this is kind 253 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: of like the last stances of this administration. I'm not sure, 254 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: but it seems like it's pretty big right now. Gosh, 255 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: that's a terrifying statement to see and speaking of potentially 256 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: terrifying prospects, but hopefully not. We're gonna take a look 257 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: at the future. But first we're going to pause for 258 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: one more quick break for word from our sponsor, and 259 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: we're back, Thank you sponsored. Yeah. So, there's a lot 260 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: going on right now in so many cases. Like I said, 261 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: I was talking about, UM, the death penalty cases and 262 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: a lot of cases to stay in, emergency applications going 263 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: in UM and so many cases in so many courts 264 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: that everyone's trying to keep up with. But there's a 265 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: few things to look at for the near future. I mean, 266 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: there's so many things happening. Yeah. Yeah, And one part 267 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: of this conversation has been around packing the court. UM. 268 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: Many people have repeatedly asked President elect Joe Biden whether 269 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: or not he would be packing the court by adding 270 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: more justices UM. As we spoke about at the beginning 271 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: of this episode. UM, it's possible, but without the approval 272 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: from Congress, it would not go forward, and so far 273 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: no answer has been given. I guess we should say 274 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: the date it is December one. Look at that. I 275 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: had to change my calendar today so I knew what 276 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: the date was. It wasn't March. What a very specific 277 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: like thing to be proud of in this year. Oh, 278 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna go away hopefully once this is 279 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: all over. I think I think you should be very 280 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: proud that you need the date. You and I have 281 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: been all over the place, yes, February March. It's fine, 282 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: everything's fine. I was planning out until one the other 283 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: day and I blew my mind. Oh my gosh. Um. 284 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, we have already seen and are still witnessing, 285 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: the massive movement in the federal judges being appointed as 286 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: quickly as possible before the new administration takes over. UM. 287 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: There are also discussions of the new administration adding more 288 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: lower level judges, which could significantly impact the judicial system 289 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: right UM. And with that, there's also conversations about term 290 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: limits UM. There have been many from both the Republican 291 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: and Democratic parties who are in favor of creating term 292 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: limits for the Supreme Court justices. Even Supreme Court Chief 293 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Justice John Roberts Jr. Isn't the support of this UM 294 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: though it's not a new idea obviously kind of what 295 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: FDR was trying to do also packing the court. He 296 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: was a leader in that. UM. There seems to be 297 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: more of a focus in setting the length of time. 298 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Some have suggested staggering eighteen year term limits, which would 299 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: give each president a chance to nominate two justices in 300 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: a four year term. Legislation has already been introduced by 301 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: the representatives in the House, and we'll have to definitely 302 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: keep a watch on that, yes, Um, And then some 303 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: potential cases. As two more conservative justices have been added, 304 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: many are worried about the possibility of cases being overturned. 305 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Decisions in regards to Ruvy Wade, Affordable Healthcare Acts, LGBTQ 306 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: plus rights, and cases in regard to racial equality and 307 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: voting rights are being questioned and could, if not already 308 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: be put back under scrutiny of the Supreme Court. Right, Um, 309 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: And we're seeing, but the lower courts are handling all 310 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: of the voting disparities and uh yeah, so far, so 311 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: good in that. Yeah, the current administration has lost all 312 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: but one, and we would say point five of that 313 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: whin Yeah, Oh my gosh, I just wanted to be over. 314 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of funny how many times Whiden 315 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: can win, Yeah, in a state. So it's already won 316 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: twice in Georgia, and I think we're going for another recount, 317 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see we'll see the ads listeners. 318 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: You would not believe the ads were experiencing actually probably would, 319 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: but yeah you would. And as in fact, you've probably 320 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: seen a few of them as a Google it and 321 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: then we've had interesting social media back and forth that's 322 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: been hilarious. So yeah, a lot of things, a lot 323 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: of changes coming, and we will definitely keep a watch 324 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: on how things are proceeding and what we need to 325 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: talk about more of. And if you see things that 326 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: we kind of overlooked, please let us know, because we 327 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: definitely want to be updated as much as we want 328 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: to update others. Yeah, and if there's any any one 329 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: specific person we covered today that you would like us 330 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: to go more in depth on, let us know that 331 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: as well. Um, I was thinking I didn't ask my 332 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: big question at the beginning, but I've been thinking I 333 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: don't think I would have been a very good judge. 334 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I have guilt enough about like one 335 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: time I said something kind of rude to somebody and 336 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: I lay awake. It's too much power for me. I 337 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: think I would have been an okay judge, but I 338 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: don't think I would be as light as I would 339 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: like because I am absolutely that person who it has 340 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: the balance. I think that's the libra in me that 341 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: I can't just see straightforward and I can justify both 342 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: sides to a certain degree. So part of me growing 343 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: up in religious background, that's part of the why I 344 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: go back and forth. And even though I have my beliefs, 345 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: I can sit here and think of this, this and 346 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: this as to why, Oh yeah, this is what it 347 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: would be problematic in this way and this is where 348 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: it can be that. So I feel like, even though 349 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: I would love to be I love my I have 350 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: my opinions and things, I don't think I would be 351 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: as light as Yeah, my dad was a lawyer, and 352 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: so I feel like I have a really good Uh 353 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: there's a D and D term for this. It's not 354 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: like chaotic mutual like lawful good or something, but yeah, yeah, yeah. 355 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: We did an exercise once in college where it was this. 356 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: I probably told this story before because it still sticks 357 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: out with me because it's one of those things where 358 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I thought the answer was obvious, but everyone disagreed with me. Um. 359 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: It was a story about a prince who basically his 360 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: wife was cheating on him, so he refused to let 361 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: her back into his palace and she ended up getting murdered, 362 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: and I can't remember the exact phrasing of it, but 363 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: it was like, uh, should she be punished by the law, 364 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, well, he it's a whole thing. 365 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: But I was like, she didn't deserve to die just 366 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: because she was cheating and there's no like law against that. 367 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: And everyone was like, I mean, but she did a 368 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: wrong thing, she deserved to be punished, and I'm like, 369 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: put the law right. It was a yeah. I think 370 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have been very well liked either, So 371 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: there you go, There you go. I think anything that's 372 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: too black and white, it's not being examined close enough. Yeah. Yeah, probably. Well, 373 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: as we sit and think about that, we did want 374 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: to share a quick listener mail for for you. Um 375 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: it's from jose from Hamburg, who was writing in response 376 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: to our episode on Poland. I'm not Polish, but there's 377 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: a fantastic organization based in Berlin that you should support 378 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: called Cha Cha Basha, which I'm sorry, I think I 379 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: butchered terribly. I tried to lock it up, but it's 380 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: spelled c I A C I O space b A 381 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: s I oh, which Josie goes on and says I 382 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: think it means anti bossia. It links Polish women up 383 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: with accommodations and support so that they can get an 384 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: abortion here. It's not ideal because Germany's abortion laws aren't 385 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: the best. It costs a lot of money. Doctors aren't 386 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: allowed to present abortion as an option outright. It's illegal 387 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: to quote advertise abortion. UM, they force you to do counseling, etcetera, etcetera. 388 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: But it's all we can do until they change the 389 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: law over there. Here's there. Go fund me if you're interested, 390 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: Go fund me, dot com, slash support, dash c I 391 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: O c I A dash b A s I A. 392 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: So thank you Josie for sharing that. UM always looking 393 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: for resources where we can help each other out, and 394 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: especially as we do these international episodes. As we've said, uh, 395 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: it's just not the same as being having closer proximity 396 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: to the situation. 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