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Speaker 1: Take it Away, Episode seventeen, Dead Uncles and Vegetables. Give
Speaker 1: us your synopsis. That's right in air date April six two.
Speaker 1: Luke's uncle Louis passed away and Lorel helps out helps
Speaker 1: out at the diner. Emily gets too involved in Sukie's
Speaker 1: wedding planning, and Taylor gets worked up over a farmer's
Speaker 1: market opening in the town square. What an episode, Good lord,
Speaker 1: I am going to have to write off the bat
Speaker 1: recuse myself from opining from the Luke stuff. Really? Why?
Speaker 1: Because I was nauseous watching it? Because I can't watch
Speaker 1: myself really, so you found this particularly hard to watch?
Speaker 1: For for when I was on screen most of the time. Yes,
Speaker 1: I thought it was the best part of the whole episode. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's why I'm recusing myself. You guys, do you
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna I'm gonna opine on everything else. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna interject on Luke. Okay, that's fine, And I'm
Speaker 1: actually I want to question you. I want to pepper
Speaker 1: y'all with questions about the dynamic between Luke and Laurel
Speaker 1: I because you know, I perceive it one way and
Speaker 1: maybe you're perceiving in another way, and I know the
Speaker 1: audience is responding in a favorable way. But to me,
Speaker 1: it was just I just I just cringe when I
Speaker 1: when I act, I just it's like stunned right now
Speaker 1: because to me, with some of your best work, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I saw them falling in love even more.
Speaker 1: I just listen. For me, this was just more proof
Speaker 1: of the glory of Lauren Graham. Okay, I mean, what
Speaker 1: a delightful presence on screen. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Another thought popped into my little head when I was
Speaker 1: watching this episode. You could inject Lauren Graham into just
Speaker 1: about any nineteen sixties or nineteen seventies series and she
Speaker 1: would have. She could have been in Bewitched. She could
Speaker 1: have been the lead in Bewitched. She she rivals Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Montgomery energy and and and lightness and skill and and
Speaker 1: and and you know she wasn't. Her comedy in this
Speaker 1: episode was more subtle than everything because she was so
Speaker 1: busy doing stuff. But it was so nuanced and so great.
Speaker 1: But she was being such a great friend, and she
Speaker 1: was being so charming, and she was so easy to watch,
Speaker 1: and it was just, oh, my goodness, I'm just very
Speaker 1: surprised that you're having a hard time watching your self
Speaker 1: and if you look, I don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: that crap already talked about. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: all right, did this episode bother you in quotes more
Speaker 1: than others? Harder to watch yourself in this? Yeah? Wow? Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just too much Luke for me. It was like,
Speaker 1: it's enough, what you know, the guy died and the
Speaker 1: whole thing, and finally we'll talk about you like you're
Speaker 1: not here, because I not like I'm not here. I'm here. Okay,
Speaker 1: I will remind you of that fact. I am here.
Speaker 1: I loved the Luke stuff, but it's just like I was.
Speaker 1: I was so relieved to seem smile at the end.
Speaker 1: It was like, finally a smile. It's just I don't know,
Speaker 1: go ahead, do your thing. Look great episode, by the way,
Speaker 1: A great episode, Okay, despite how I feel about watching myself. Um,
Speaker 1: but I just thought the writing was snappy and funny
Speaker 1: and great, and I loved all the Suki stuff and
Speaker 1: the and you know, and Lauren just killed this episode.
Speaker 1: She just killed this episode. Man, I want to Riley,
Speaker 1: I mean, give us some Luke talk. Unpopular opinion was
Speaker 1: not my favorite episode. Yeah, I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I texted Amy and I was like, oh, this Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls episode is in my favorite And then like five
Speaker 1: minutes later, with like the last fIF two minutes of
Speaker 1: the episode, I was like, Okay, it's good. It's good.
Speaker 1: It's good. For the first half, I was just kind
Speaker 1: of like, do do do do? I don't know, because
Speaker 1: because you know, Gilmore doesn't really deal with death. You
Speaker 1: don't see you next, you don't. It's maybe maybe a
Speaker 1: Cinnamon's wake and it's a funny thing and all poor
Speaker 1: Carrot and everybody's but it's like he's we're dealing with
Speaker 1: death here in a real way. That show doesn't do that.
Speaker 1: It turned around for me when Emily was in the
Speaker 1: diner with Laurel and she was just like, this is
Speaker 1: your this is your goat, your dude, you know. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm ready, I'm back. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a phenomenal town meeting phenomenal, absolutely, absolutely phenomenal, short and sweet.
Speaker 1: I remember we didn't have to be there all day.
Speaker 1: I guess here's what I'm gonna say. First of all,
Speaker 1: I agree with you completely about Lauren. I am such
Speaker 1: a Laura Lae lover, like I just love everything about her,
Speaker 1: and to me, Laura Lee and Lauren are the same person.
Speaker 1: But I am a huge fan of Luke. I find
Speaker 1: him to be so much fun to watch. And I
Speaker 1: use the word fun loosely because it's like he's clever,
Speaker 1: he's sexy, he's funny, he's grouchy, he's just I love
Speaker 1: that guy. I love Luke Dane so to me, because
Speaker 1: this was a predominantly Luke episode, maybe that's why I
Speaker 1: I liked it from start to finish. I agree the
Speaker 1: second half was better than the first half, but the
Speaker 1: first half, to me was also awesome. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just think there's um, I don't know. Let's the
Speaker 1: way I want to discuss this is, let's take it,
Speaker 1: you know, couples at a time. Because it's Suki Jackson,
Speaker 1: it's Laura, la Luke, it's Rory jess Right, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's Lauren I'm sorry. It's it's god, what
Speaker 1: is her? Laura Lae and Emily, It's yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're all those dynamics right, And I and I thought
Speaker 1: they I thought when the when they played on the
Speaker 1: lightness of the comedy was lighter here, it wasn't so laden,
Speaker 1: it wasn't so heavy. It wasn't so my mother is
Speaker 1: getting all my nerves so much. I mean, the first
Speaker 1: scene started out that way, but it was light and
Speaker 1: kind of funny, and she's leaving the messages and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, the overbearing grading mother, sure and
Speaker 1: her and her responses to it were funny and fabulous
Speaker 1: and all that stuff until she went up the stairs
Speaker 1: and said that comment about her ears. But throughout it
Speaker 1: it was like it was Laura La kind of skipping away,
Speaker 1: and you know, they were showing, the creators were showing
Speaker 1: that she has this protective armor of this town. She's
Speaker 1: busy with her real world life, the life that she wanted,
Speaker 1: the life that she fought for. She ran away from
Speaker 1: from Hartford and all of that stuffiness and all of
Speaker 1: that privilege and money to come here. And this is
Speaker 1: what you're seeing here, people at their best, Because Luke,
Speaker 1: you know a townsperson has had a loss and they're
Speaker 1: all going to rally, and why did she rally for Luke?
Speaker 1: And I just I just fell so more and more
Speaker 1: in love with her character. Like what an outstanding episode
Speaker 1: for Laura La. I mean, I think she could murder
Speaker 1: people from here on out, I'd still love her because
Speaker 1: what gods, what a friend? I mean, what a friend? Friend?
Speaker 1: She's a friend to you, and she's also willing to
Speaker 1: stand up to her mom to help out Jackson and Suki,
Speaker 1: Like she's a loyal friends Like mom, you don't understand
Speaker 1: what real life is all about and what loving other
Speaker 1: people is about, and opening your heart to an entire
Speaker 1: community of people is about. Where their status is not involved,
Speaker 1: money is not involved. It's real feelings, it's real values,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like treating people well no matter what
Speaker 1: stational life they're from. And you are the opposite that.
Speaker 1: I mean, she walks in the diner with her you know,
Speaker 1: her designer clothes on and her attitude, and she's always
Speaker 1: I think we're wanting to help. Suki did come from
Speaker 1: a good place, although she was living vicariously through Suki
Speaker 1: of what she wanted for Lorelai she just is like
Speaker 1: doesn't get reality and how rich she is and how
Speaker 1: regular these guys are. Right, that was the big disconnect,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of shocking that Laura La had
Speaker 1: to explain that to her. It was really shocking. It's like,
Speaker 1: do you understand the money that I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you think that wedding would have cost? By the way easily?
Speaker 1: M h easily and the wedding they probably can afford,
Speaker 1: and that's a lot of money. Like I was watching
Speaker 1: h G TV last night and it was this show
Speaker 1: where they planned their wedding and buy a house at
Speaker 1: the same time, and the wedding for ten dollars maybe fifteen,
Speaker 1: you can have a really beautiful wedding. I mean not
Speaker 1: a lot of alcohol, but yet not a lot of bows,
Speaker 1: but you know byl me um. But yeah, anyway, I
Speaker 1: just that was very That really stuck out for me
Speaker 1: is how out of touch she is with the real world.
Speaker 1: Her take on why she was getting so invested in
Speaker 1: Suki's wedding, well, I think I think Lorela explained it
Speaker 1: best at the end. You weren't planning her wedding, you
Speaker 1: were planning my wedding, and which just shows you how
Speaker 1: unconscious Emily is or how deeply ingrained her her trauma
Speaker 1: is as the breakup with her her own daughter and
Speaker 1: losing her own daughter, and she's still in in in
Speaker 1: deep down. She's trying to win her back somehow, and
Speaker 1: this is how she's doing it. She wants to do,
Speaker 1: but she's it's also for selfish reason. She's doing it
Speaker 1: for herself as well. She needs to do this thing.
Speaker 1: Emily is just she's so I don't know, she's just
Speaker 1: so chained down with all of her issues and all
Speaker 1: of her traditions and all of her money and all.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just waging. You could really feel the
Speaker 1: weight of all that in this episode where it was like, man,
Speaker 1: how do you get through to this woman? What do
Speaker 1: you don't mind? When you said that, I had a
Speaker 1: total aha moment. She's not a board and writing his
Speaker 1: board and just jonesing for something to do with her
Speaker 1: skill set, which is like she's got skilled in this
Speaker 1: extravagant wedding, but she's bored, so she just glombs onto
Speaker 1: it in me imdiately right. And this is the first
Speaker 1: time I and there have been other times, but this
Speaker 1: it was really glaring. In this episode She's jealous of
Speaker 1: Laurelized life. She's jealous of the freedom she has. She's
Speaker 1: jealous of her friends. She's jealous of the variety of
Speaker 1: friends she has. She's jealous of all of that life.
Speaker 1: And I think she's questions. You know, maybe Emily. I
Speaker 1: don't think Emily would ever question you know, her own
Speaker 1: life and her choices, and you know, she's the Queen
Speaker 1: of Hartford and all that. But you know, she when
Speaker 1: she comes to her stars Hollow, she's triggered because of
Speaker 1: what she's missing in her life. She sees Laurela having
Speaker 1: in her life. That's such a good point. She's jealous
Speaker 1: of how busy Lorela is and how her laurea La
Speaker 1: has a lot going on, not just like physically she's
Speaker 1: gotta do this, she gotta go here, she's got all
Speaker 1: these friends, but she stimulated. Lore La is planning this
Speaker 1: or taking care of that. Like she's got things she's
Speaker 1: thinking about and doing and ranting a business and all
Speaker 1: these things. But I don't think Emily, you know, let me,
Speaker 1: let me, let me go, let me walk this back
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't think for a minute that
Speaker 1: Emily looks at Laurela because I just said, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: she's a little jealous. But I don't think for a minute,
Speaker 1: let me correct this. I don't think for a minute
Speaker 1: that Emily looks at Laurela and and let me put
Speaker 1: her down other way. I'm having trouble expressing this. I
Speaker 1: think she's still pities Laureli. I think that she looks
Speaker 1: at Laurel I and says, you have no idea what
Speaker 1: you walked away from because I would never walk away
Speaker 1: from that, and no woman in their right mind would
Speaker 1: walk away from something like this, because this is how
Speaker 1: life is supposed to be lived at this level. And
Speaker 1: I think every little success that Laurela has, she minimizes.
Speaker 1: She puts it down. Um. She she's very condescending about
Speaker 1: it because it's in this little town and these little
Speaker 1: goals and little little stuff, and it's like, what happened
Speaker 1: to my daughter? I don't recognize my daughter. But if
Speaker 1: you're Emily and you're looking at Laurela, your d her,
Speaker 1: what are you seeing? You're seeing a tall, beautiful, intelligent,
Speaker 1: motivated woman who's doing a great job at her end.
Speaker 1: She's doing a great job obviously raising her kid, but
Speaker 1: you still feel sorry for because she's in that town,
Speaker 1: and she's not living the high life at the Squiss
Speaker 1: Swiss chalet in the winter and then starts in the summer. Right,
Speaker 1: she's still looking down her nose at her She'll always
Speaker 1: look down her No, she'll never she'll never understand her
Speaker 1: own daughter, who would want a CD player and the
Speaker 1: risk that the person in charge of the CD player
Speaker 1: doesn't know when to turn it off or on when
Speaker 1: you could have a string quartet. So it's like you
Speaker 1: make it, You're saying, it's so accurately that she why
Speaker 1: would you want this when you can have this? And
Speaker 1: she's just so befuddled by the fact that lor like
Speaker 1: chooses stars hollow and she can't, you know, she can't
Speaker 1: reconcile with the fact that she had anything to do
Speaker 1: with that. So she's got to say, my crazy daughter,
Speaker 1: My daughter is a little nuts. So there's something wrong
Speaker 1: with her because it can't be me. It can't be
Speaker 1: my fault. You know, it's not Richard and I, it's
Speaker 1: not how we raised her. She's an only child. We
Speaker 1: gave her everything, and she just can't let off the
Speaker 1: gas pedal that you know well so well said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. That's the tension. That's
Speaker 1: the tension between the two characters. It's wonderful. It's wonderful conceived, yes,
Speaker 1: because I understand. I mean, if I was told you
Speaker 1: can live here at the Gilmore's right by Chiltern, or
Speaker 1: you can live in stars Hollow, there is something so
Speaker 1: appealing to me about stars Hollow. But to Emily, she's
Speaker 1: like totally shocked by that. Why would you ever live
Speaker 1: in stars Hollow when you can live here. Laurla has
Speaker 1: a soul, she's got real feelings, and she's like, you know,
Speaker 1: she could probably couldn't believe. And again we didn't see
Speaker 1: those scenes. Gilmore Girls is not you know, it's not
Speaker 1: a prequel. If maybe there should be a prequel and
Speaker 1: love it right, but I mean, can you imagine how
Speaker 1: she viewed her parents, and especially her mother back in
Speaker 1: the day when she was getting when she told her mother,
Speaker 1: I imagine those scenes, Mom, I'm pregnant. How Emily found
Speaker 1: out my god? Can you imagine that? And um, I
Speaker 1: think she saw a side of her mother that made
Speaker 1: her just I want to be a different person, maybe
Speaker 1: even change your name and dropped the Gilmore and like
Speaker 1: you you're a monster. How what kind of human being
Speaker 1: are you to react this way? And what had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with it? Just Emily tough. And I don't
Speaker 1: mean that in the complimentary way that I did when
Speaker 1: I say it about lor lia I. It was glaring
Speaker 1: in the episode the week before when Emily law Ster
Speaker 1: Noodle at the end and turned it all on lower Lie.
Speaker 1: So you can only imagine that growing up that happened
Speaker 1: all the time. And I think Laurel I learned how
Speaker 1: to be iconoclastic and rebellious because her mother was so rigid,
Speaker 1: and she's really good at being a cool iconoclastic check.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's really a hip, cool girl, right. I
Speaker 1: mean she's got all those comebacks, she's got all that
Speaker 1: quick pattern, she's got all that stuff. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: just such a great character. Now, what do you think
Speaker 1: about that? This is the second time that Emily fully
Speaker 1: knows that Luke and Lorelei are in love, second time
Speaker 1: and she said it again. What do you think of that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was the weakest part
Speaker 1: of the script. I think it was the weakest part
Speaker 1: because it was just so I mean, you could either
Speaker 1: see it coming a mile away, or it wasn't even necessary.
Speaker 1: It could have gone said, and the fact that she
Speaker 1: got into it, well, you know, don't you. It's just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, we know that they're hitting us over the
Speaker 1: head with this gain. I know you have to do
Speaker 1: it because you want to forward that narrative. And though
Speaker 1: I just listen, like I said, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: off on these uh analyzes of this storyline, So I'm
Speaker 1: going to recuse myself. Danielle, what did you like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said it earlier. That was my favorite scene. Really,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that was my favorite scene. That's when it
Speaker 1: the episode changed for me. Yeah, I I appreciate what
Speaker 1: you're saying and that it was hitting us over the head.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, yeah, you go, girl, you
Speaker 1: tell them like and just that Emily always knew, so
Speaker 1: like when push comes to shove down the road and
Speaker 1: you are together, it's like, yes, she knew, a mother knows.
Speaker 1: It was a little I know, but it was a
Speaker 1: little much for me. I mean, it was kind of
Speaker 1: I just would rather have left it alone because Laurel
Speaker 1: I was acting. I mean, she was so energized and
Speaker 1: so happy to be in that position, and it's probably
Speaker 1: because it was a change of pace and it was
Speaker 1: a different kind of job she was doing, and she
Speaker 1: was having a lot of fun with the language. And
Speaker 1: you know, float the boat and wreck them and all
Speaker 1: you know whatever it put it on a pink stick
Speaker 1: and scramble them or whatever. Can you read Scott all
Speaker 1: the lingo? I guess so, I sure can. So we
Speaker 1: have an Adam and Eve on a raft and Wreckham's too,
Speaker 1: scrambled eggs on toast, burn one. Then pass me a
Speaker 1: pink stick and throw some mud on it. Hamburger with
Speaker 1: strawberry ice cream with chocolate sauce, Hot blond with sand
Speaker 1: is coffee with cream and sugar. Make sure it's foot
Speaker 1: out the doors to go a wimpy with a rosepin
Speaker 1: on it is a turkey burger with onions. I heard
Speaker 1: of bulls shopping for China are customers. And then Laura
Speaker 1: La goes on a piggy piggy with a green blanket
Speaker 1: and then gives up because it was a baalty with
Speaker 1: nobody right right, right, right right. I mean it's the
Speaker 1: little details of this show that just grab you. I mean,
Speaker 1: all that little office so great, it's so great, um,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen laurel Ee so supportive and loving
Speaker 1: and happy in that role and just so light on
Speaker 1: her feet and so graceful about the whole thing. And
Speaker 1: I just was wild by that performance at the funeral. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's she teared up. Yeah, man, she's feeling it. I
Speaker 1: mean she's like, she doesn't know your uncle? Who know you?
Speaker 1: So it's all about Luke? Yeah? So why? Okay, So okay,
Speaker 1: I will get into this discussion. Let's let's get into
Speaker 1: this film, this this analytical discussion as to what she
Speaker 1: sees in him? Why him? Why do you think she
Speaker 1: likes him so much? If she does, I'm not assuming
Speaker 1: that she does. I'm seeing that she kind of does.
Speaker 1: And he obviously is nuts about her. But do you
Speaker 1: think she feels anyway? And why why he's a loner? Malcontent,
Speaker 1: he's grumpy, he's all this stuff, and and so is
Speaker 1: that like you know, for somebody like Laurelize, that just
Speaker 1: he just needs he just needs a little love. He
Speaker 1: just needs some hugs, and he needs he needs a
Speaker 1: little attention. I'm holding my tongue till after that. Alright,
Speaker 1: go ahead, guys, Hey, here's my perspective. He lets her
Speaker 1: be exactly who she isantastic state, nothing like loyal, Lize
Speaker 1: loy ly, and Luke likes lore Ly and doesn't want
Speaker 1: to change anything. I from a female perspective, like, I
Speaker 1: think that's why perfect so he so he she goes
Speaker 1: with the flow and is her self true self when
Speaker 1: she's with him, exactly. Yeah, and that's you can't beat
Speaker 1: yourself around that many people. So I think there's there's
Speaker 1: something there that's my dig on it. Okay, Riley, what's
Speaker 1: your still holding my tongue? And I think that he
Speaker 1: is the constant and stability that she needs and wants.
Speaker 1: Like with Emily, she never knows what she's gonna get.
Speaker 1: She know, she's back and forth. I think with Luke
Speaker 1: she's like, I know his temperament. I know he's gonna
Speaker 1: be there for me. I know that he you know,
Speaker 1: is my friend and that he's he's there. I think
Speaker 1: that's what she loves about him. She sees beyond the personality,
Speaker 1: the grumpiness that apparently the shut off, closed off person
Speaker 1: emotionally disconnected. He's rolling her eyes. Yes, I agree with
Speaker 1: everything you're saying. But also, and Scott, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you need to plug your ears, but Luke Danes
Speaker 1: is it sexy hatty dude with the dreamy blue eyes
Speaker 1: and the freaking awesomeness, Like, I I'm sorry, I love Luke.
Speaker 1: I love the look of Luke. Sorry because I know
Speaker 1: you're Luke. But it's also like I love his vibe.
Speaker 1: I love his walk, I of how he moves, I
Speaker 1: love his funny quips. I love he's just that dude's
Speaker 1: a stunt. Of course, the whole town has a crush
Speaker 1: on Luke. What are you talking about? You don't think
Speaker 1: Miss Patty also has a crush on Luke. Everybody's got
Speaker 1: a crush on Luke. She's the only one who can
Speaker 1: get him. So he's so he's in some sense unattainable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just right because he rarely dates, rarely settles down.
Speaker 1: But look, Luke is a stud. Rachel was no, she
Speaker 1: was a knockout, like she was beautiful, Like Luke gets chicks.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say it, like look at yes,
Speaker 1: look at his his nephew, his his his genetics. Like
Speaker 1: these people are sexy studs. I and like I think
Speaker 1: people agree with me, Like Luke is dreaming, so he's
Speaker 1: so you think he's as unattainable as she is, like
Speaker 1: his standards are as comp located and high falutin as
Speaker 1: hers are. Yes, like if Brad Pitt was a diner
Speaker 1: owner the whole town and be like, did you see
Speaker 1: the diner owner? Like it's like he's the town cutie
Speaker 1: or like sexy. I remember because I'm forty eight now,
Speaker 1: So when I watched it, I was like, and I
Speaker 1: remember like crushing on Luke and just being like I
Speaker 1: love this show because I admit it. I love Lorlie.
Speaker 1: I want to be lor La everything about lor Lae.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I also watched because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have a crush on Luke. He's cool. I accept that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I guess it's not something that
Speaker 1: enters my mind, but it's interesting perspective. Um, I would
Speaker 1: have been at that dinner all the time, like you know,
Speaker 1: they're you know, like a little girl, like maybe you
Speaker 1: would have been ordering the Piggy Piggy in a green blanket.
Speaker 1: That's funny you think they go there every day. It
Speaker 1: wasn't for Luke, I'd be at all pancake World. Amy
Speaker 1: wanted to be the Piggy Piggy, but as a huge
Speaker 1: like am. I'm a fan of this show. I love
Speaker 1: the writing, I love the stories. But part of it,
Speaker 1: I know, is because I had a crush on Luke's awesome.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about let's talk about Rory and Jess.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Rory and Jesse's dynamic in this episode,
Speaker 1: which I found entertaining, cute. It was thoroughly gilmourd, right,
Speaker 1: but I didn't recognize him well, right, because she's being
Speaker 1: very type A or uh kind of. Really she looked great.
Speaker 1: She was great, She was great, she was fun, and
Speaker 1: it's like, get your butt in there, and you know,
Speaker 1: but it really I don't know that I you know,
Speaker 1: they it was. It was humorous and entertaining and light
Speaker 1: and delightful and all that, But what did it do
Speaker 1: to his character? He likes that, Rory, but wow, I
Speaker 1: mean he was But look, guys, I mean all the
Speaker 1: stuff you just said about Luke, it has to apply
Speaker 1: to Jess as well. And you know, to the tenth power, right,
Speaker 1: And he was and they set him up to be
Speaker 1: this cool guy and mysterious and unreachable, and you know,
Speaker 1: Rory working hard to maintain her relationship with the Dean
Speaker 1: and and it's that's not working, and we all know that,
Speaker 1: but man to really like bring him. I thought they
Speaker 1: brought his character down too many notches, too finished. In
Speaker 1: one episode, parallels between Luke and Lorelei and Rory and
Speaker 1: Jess that the only one who has any power in
Speaker 1: quotes over Jess is worried. He doesn't care what anybody
Speaker 1: else says. But he's gonna he's going downstairs when she said,
Speaker 1: come downstairs, and he does sort of what she asks.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be nice to Laura Lieu r he asked.
Speaker 1: He's afraid. He's afraid of her a little bit. He
Speaker 1: respects her, and she's not respects perfect word, he respects
Speaker 1: her and he and she is not afraid of him.
Speaker 1: She sees right through him. She she knows exactly what
Speaker 1: he is. Another guy who has great potential, who is
Speaker 1: not as emotionally mature as I am. He may never be,
Speaker 1: but he's probably worth a shot. He's a project for
Speaker 1: her now, right, And she's just trying to up the
Speaker 1: timeline by just taking command and being the you know,
Speaker 1: the drill sergeant, like get your butt over there and
Speaker 1: guilting him and everything and move your ass and help
Speaker 1: him out and what the hell's wrong with you? And
Speaker 1: I think it angered her because it's like, you're not
Speaker 1: the guy I'm gonna fall in love with her stay
Speaker 1: in love with if this is what you are, like
Speaker 1: so freaking change And might be going too deep on this,
Speaker 1: but if she's got to help out at Luke Diner,
Speaker 1: well she wants her crush. Whether she's gonna admit it
Speaker 1: or not, she wants her crush down there to help
Speaker 1: her out too. It makes it that much more fun
Speaker 1: serving those plates. So, hey, you need to come down
Speaker 1: and help. It's like why, right, It's almost like, why
Speaker 1: don't you need me more? Why don't you show that
Speaker 1: you need me more? Why are you lying? I mean
Speaker 1: he's watching an episode of I Dream of Genie, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Lauren Graham would have been great role, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, Barbara Eden was perfection, but Lauren Graham could
Speaker 1: have played that role in the nine sixties. I mean
Speaker 1: she had the look, she's got the personality, she's got
Speaker 1: all that stuff right, perfect perfect actors. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to talk about Dosi. Yeah, but I mean that's just
Speaker 1: but I want to get into this Jess thing a
Speaker 1: little more because I just I don't know it was
Speaker 1: for me, it was careful, careful with Jess. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't want to make him to um, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to beat him down too much because
Speaker 1: he's to lose all of that appeal that he had,
Speaker 1: all of that mystery how smart he is. But but
Speaker 1: as an audience, we're watching this kid, this jest, struggle
Speaker 1: with his own demons, right, He's struggling with his own
Speaker 1: anger issues. He's struggling with his his abandonment issues and
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, and it's very powerful. But now
Speaker 1: you've got somebody like Rory who he respects and is
Speaker 1: in love with. Right, the whole power, the whole dynamic
Speaker 1: really shifted. It really shifted. Um, that was unexpected. I
Speaker 1: was not expecting that, And I guess I'll have to see,
Speaker 1: you know, how it develops. But yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was a little much. I wouldn't want it every episode.
Speaker 1: I agree with you there that I don't want him
Speaker 1: to just be her b I T C. But that's
Speaker 1: how he came off in the episode. It was too
Speaker 1: many repetitive scenes of of her, like you know, putting
Speaker 1: Alisha on him and dragging him down the street and
Speaker 1: get in there. You know, it was like three or
Speaker 1: four those and it was like, you maybe you need
Speaker 1: one or two. Yeah, we've got your whole storyline with
Speaker 1: your uncle, which is major. Then we've got Emily and Suki,
Speaker 1: We've got that whole storyline. Way we've got Dosy and
Speaker 1: Tribute or number two dealing with their thing. So maybe
Speaker 1: the episode was just so filled that they really couldn't
Speaker 1: do much more with Rory and Jess, but they wanted
Speaker 1: to sort of keep that going. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there that maybe that's why they
Speaker 1: just sort of hit us over the head. In this episode,
Speaker 1: we see that Jess likes Rory, so he kind of
Speaker 1: does what she says. But even at the end when
Speaker 1: she says, you know, you helped and you he goes,
Speaker 1: you know something crazy lady at to Dance Studio called me.
Speaker 1: So when you come downstairs and unlocked the door, that's
Speaker 1: all I did. And I want to back up, says
Speaker 1: that's all I didn't. I didn't there was one my
Speaker 1: idea and and Rory says, yeah, but but at least
Speaker 1: that's you doing something that you're part of the community.
Speaker 1: You're part of the community. I mean it was it
Speaker 1: was just we liked that. I want to see him
Speaker 1: having a epiphany, if even if it's a small one,
Speaker 1: so that he takes a little bit of responsibility. I
Speaker 1: just want to see some growth, right Sure, I feel
Speaker 1: like we were getting that that he's allowing himself, whether
Speaker 1: it's with this massive hesitation into her world a little bit,
Speaker 1: even if it's just to answer the phone from the
Speaker 1: crazy lady and open the door, He's going to let
Speaker 1: himself into into her world, which is this world. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I love that scene in the diner at the end
Speaker 1: of Interesting with the quote reception. Sorry, I keep saying, quote, God,
Speaker 1: people aren't so annoying, is it quote annoying? Unquote? Can
Speaker 1: we just guts something about the diner that? Did anyone
Speaker 1: else realize? Mysteriously no more construction and the roof was falling. Well,
Speaker 1: there was a plastic thing still hanging in the doorway
Speaker 1: from the diner to the apartment to the office, but
Speaker 1: the actual diner dealing mis fixed. But does this episode
Speaker 1: of dovetail of the next day from the last episode.
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't have the timeline. But I remodeled
Speaker 1: garage and it took me a month and a half,
Speaker 1: so you had a lot of good Listen, man, I'm
Speaker 1: still looking for you know, Maximudena. Where the hell happen
Speaker 1: to him? I know where Maximudina is. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: He's on Matt Zukry show, The Resident, and he's playing
Speaker 1: a complete creeper, really, Scott Cohen. He's been in two
Speaker 1: episodes so far, maybe three, but I think too. And
Speaker 1: he is. He's on The Resident with Logan a k a.
Speaker 1: Mad Zukri, and he is playing not a good dude.
Speaker 1: He's such a good actor though he can looks a
Speaker 1: little older, you know, he and he played kind of
Speaker 1: a creepy agent guy. He was really great at it.
Speaker 1: He never over does it. He always just you know,
Speaker 1: he just is the guy exactly. So you think you
Speaker 1: like him and then you find out something about him
Speaker 1: on The Resident of m and I know it immediately.
Speaker 1: They before he came on screen, they showed a picture
Speaker 1: of him or something, if I remember, And I was like,
Speaker 1: was that ma Consudina? Like was that? Well? What I
Speaker 1: meant not? I wasn't talking about Scott Cohen's career. I
Speaker 1: was talking about where's Max macdona in the show? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Very much. Let's try to stay here and Gilmore island
Speaker 1: here or the planet Gilmore. I know, don't even get
Speaker 1: me started about the fact that Emily Gilmore is starting
Speaker 1: her episodes on Mazel, so we wanted to get into that. Okay, um, well,
Speaker 1: it's nice to see somebody working, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like it's tough getting a job out there. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say it, but I feel like you came
Speaker 1: up with the most genius idea. What I was that, yeah,
Speaker 1: five minutes ago, Well, the Gilmore prequel. I would so
Speaker 1: watch that. And you know, Mazel's ending in a year.
Speaker 1: They just announced it's renewed for fifth season and then
Speaker 1: it's ending, so someone might have some time on their hands.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, oh, I don't think anybody's going
Speaker 1: to have time on their hands after no fil More
Speaker 1: prequel would be let's let's go to Warner Brothers and
Speaker 1: pitch this right. Yeah? Who technically I'm getting in the
Speaker 1: weeds here, like owns the characters. Is it Warner Brothers
Speaker 1: or is it the Paladine. I think it's shared. Would
Speaker 1: you not want to watch that? I think I think
Speaker 1: it's really Warner Brothers. But they defer to the Paladinos
Speaker 1: for everything because you know, they want to keep the
Speaker 1: relationship right. They don't want to like sex in the city, right,
Speaker 1: They don't want to step on anybody's toes. Even though
Speaker 1: they could that, they won't do it. You know what
Speaker 1: I meant that herb being Warner Brothers is a very
Speaker 1: classy studio, right, they really are, and they really do.
Speaker 1: And I know there was a little tension, you know,
Speaker 1: season one, season two, all this, but you know everything
Speaker 1: got ironed out and um, you know, they really really
Speaker 1: respect those two. They respect those creators, and they don't
Speaker 1: feel watching a young Luke because think about it, a
Speaker 1: Gilmore prequel. Even though Lorala I didn't live in Stars Hollow,
Speaker 1: then you could still have the young Luke, the young
Speaker 1: you know, Suki, all the people that grew up in
Speaker 1: that town, and we can explore that storyline where we're simultaneously.
Speaker 1: I'm in. I think it's a great idea for the
Speaker 1: c W. You know, I think it's it's Alix. It's
Speaker 1: a completely different yeah, sure, completely different cast. Who would
Speaker 1: play young Luke Brad Pitt, So if Luke was sixteen,
Speaker 1: who is a sixteen year old kid right now? Because
Speaker 1: I would have said Milow, but Milo is like old now,
Speaker 1: so who I'm got Eastwood vibe? Too old, I know,
Speaker 1: but he's a little too old. Yeah, sixteen year old Luke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's a prequel, so it's them at their teen years.
Speaker 1: So who is a sixteen year old actor? Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: how old is Luke in the show? We meet him?
Speaker 1: She's thirty two. I'm like, so it's not a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old Luke, it's a it's a twenty one year
Speaker 1: old Luke. Oh, pardon me, correct, pardon you are correct?
Speaker 1: So twenty one year old? Correct? You know you're sure
Speaker 1: that he's thirty five at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, because I don't think he's quite forty. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm very good at math, as everyone knows, but I
Speaker 1: blew it on that one. Everybody knows you're good. Who
Speaker 1: do we like as a twenty one year old that
Speaker 1: would play Luke? I don't know who? Could it be
Speaker 1: from Euphoria Woo pretty boys? So maybe just get the
Speaker 1: whole cast of you four area and just put him
Speaker 1: in this Gilmore prequel kind of clean up, clean them
Speaker 1: all up a little bit. I feel like is good,
Speaker 1: but more more edge than that guy. Okay, he's a
Speaker 1: little bit older. You know. He looks like he looks
Speaker 1: like that actor that was on that Australian actor. He
Speaker 1: looks like a young version of that Australian actor. Was
Speaker 1: his name, No, no no, no, no, the one that was
Speaker 1: in Troy with Brad Pitt. What's his name? Really good actor?
Speaker 1: Dark hair? What's his name? Eric? Eric Banna? That looks
Speaker 1: like a hundred now, like he's not a d stop it.
Speaker 1: That's not a hundred, it's fifty. And he looks like
Speaker 1: a Greek. God, give me a break Instagram. Who would
Speaker 1: who is twenty right now? Even I? Who would be
Speaker 1: the young Luke if there was a prequel? Boy, that's
Speaker 1: a good question. It's not that guy because he looks
Speaker 1: like a young Eric Dane, I mean young Eric Eric Bana.
Speaker 1: I think Eric is the whole Oh god, we're sidetrack.
Speaker 1: Let's get back to break, all right. We're gonna, man,
Speaker 1: we really, We're not just gonna need a towel off.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna need to get buffed. Um so listen,
Speaker 1: uh perfumed and alright, we're gonna take a little break
Speaker 1: and taking knee here, folks, and we'll be right back
Speaker 1: after these words. Ye are everybody, We're back. Everybody's feeling fresh.
Speaker 1: We're talking to We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna aromatic wafting.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. The scent of cucumber in the air, that's wonderful. Um,
Speaker 1: so what are we going to talk about? The the
Speaker 1: the open air market? I thought that was hilarious fresh.
Speaker 1: Josie was so freaking pissed, and Troubadour number two was
Speaker 1: so rapa, Oh my god. David Gruber Alan, Well, how
Speaker 1: do you say his name? He's got He's Gruber. He's
Speaker 1: just known as Gruber. Well he I think in this
Speaker 1: show he's credited as Dave Allen. But obviously we've tracked
Speaker 1: him down and he's going to be on with you
Speaker 1: next So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk to him because that that young man needs to
Speaker 1: be you know, he needs to answer some questions for
Speaker 1: good later this week. Everyone can hear that episode. But yes,
Speaker 1: I think his like kind of nickname or name is Brewber. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what I mean, what a what a I mean?
Speaker 1: Not that I'm getting sick of the show at all.
Speaker 1: But what a great new energy to introduce into this
Speaker 1: Gilmore tapestry. What what a fantastic performance. S this how
Speaker 1: he flirts with and he was so great with Taylor,
Speaker 1: A raging Taylor, right what I was hysterical. He hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know I got all the public bravery work. You know, man,
Speaker 1: it's all good. And yeah, you know my uncle was
Speaker 1: shot in the button. Everything tips over when he drinks coffee.
Speaker 1: But he's good. Everything's good. You know, It's like what
Speaker 1: it was the funniest delivery I've ever heard. It was great. Right.
Speaker 1: The town meeting was so low. Oh my god, oh
Speaker 1: he was the tailors like, uh, miss Patty, you take over.
Speaker 1: And he goes down and he's like she calls on him, like, bro,
Speaker 1: you can just do that from up there. The car
Speaker 1: Kiosk car Chios, the double Chris. It was hysterical. Don't
Speaker 1: go he hands he hands with the gavel and you know,
Speaker 1: Laura Lauraa comes in late with perhaps the best line
Speaker 1: of the whole episode was uh, well you're late, miss Massy,
Speaker 1: and she goes, God, I help him. Not pregnant, so good,
Speaker 1: so good. I'm not pregnant. Stop repeating yourself and being redundant,
Speaker 1: and stop repeating yourself the same thing. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was just, oh, the town meeting was hilarious. It was hilarious,
Speaker 1: God almighty. And I remember we just shot that and
Speaker 1: that didn't take along the shoot. That was like a
Speaker 1: couple of that. I mean it was it was. I
Speaker 1: think it was an evening shoot, as I recall, obviously
Speaker 1: because you have to go outdoors. But it really I
Speaker 1: think it started late afternoon and it wasn't like an
Speaker 1: all day, all night thing, you know. It was just
Speaker 1: short and sweet. Um. I thought Kirk was hitting hitting
Speaker 1: his stride in this one too. Yeah you go seven equals, Yeah,
Speaker 1: seven equals and then his and then his line, how's
Speaker 1: that taste? He goes perfect to steal the equals? Yeah,
Speaker 1: take them all? And I know we'll do this in
Speaker 1: best lines. But I wrote this down. I four fourth
Speaker 1: don't care. But why did she say that? Was it
Speaker 1: tied with the coffee? Why did she say that? Because
Speaker 1: Kirk said, I like, I want three quarter caffeinated, one
Speaker 1: quarter decaf and she goes out four force don't care.
Speaker 1: I didn't that. Oh yeah, yeah, it's so good. What
Speaker 1: is our job? We're just being paid to watch the
Speaker 1: most freaking awesome show on TV. It was really a
Speaker 1: good episode. It was really funny, and then the ending,
Speaker 1: you know, it was so touching. The reenactors show up
Speaker 1: and then of course Lorla is there with him, and
Speaker 1: then they walk back and it's the whole town is
Speaker 1: there and there, you know, everyone brought food and it's
Speaker 1: just like wow, Now now you know why she she
Speaker 1: moved there with the baby Rory that she she she
Speaker 1: made a really good decision because those people are top quality.
Speaker 1: You are so right. I just had another oprah aha
Speaker 1: moment ahead where the Gilmore's Live is fancy and everyone
Speaker 1: is rich and they have their mansions, and I think
Speaker 1: she even says a line in this like bentley'ser for
Speaker 1: people that can't afford rolls royces. But those people judge
Speaker 1: each other all the time, and they're always trying to
Speaker 1: do better in One Up and blah blah in Stars Hollow,
Speaker 1: like these people are just in it for each other.
Speaker 1: Oh you need something, I got you mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a real I would love to live there, and
Speaker 1: it's a real town. You need a cup of sugar.
Speaker 1: There's forty five neighbors that have sugar knock on a
Speaker 1: door high you don't come on in we're baking blueberry
Speaker 1: play of them not come on, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. No, I'm just going,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I mean, that's that's an aspirational town.
Speaker 1: That's a fantasy town. That's uh. But there are places,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of places like that that exist there.
Speaker 1: There are only only there's two other notes. I have
Speaker 1: Michelle when Luke needs the nine rooms and he's a
Speaker 1: French frore convention so to pop. Sure, it just didn't
Speaker 1: miss a beat, did it this episode. Every everybody's talents
Speaker 1: were showcased. I mean, it was just it was just
Speaker 1: remarkable episode. And I just think, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how Lauren Graham didn't become a movie star. I
Speaker 1: don't get it. You know, she is bringing to bear,
Speaker 1: you know, looks, charms, skills up the wazoo. I mean, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know she did a couple of films
Speaker 1: and she I think she did Evan Almighty in a
Speaker 1: big film and it didn't make a lot that Santa
Speaker 1: and like, look, she did Parenthood. She had another series
Speaker 1: that was massive Parenthood was brilliant, and she's she was
Speaker 1: much more dramatic, but she still brings the funny. But
Speaker 1: I don't know why something. I mean they you know,
Speaker 1: if you've got those kind of comedy skills and those
Speaker 1: kind of dramatic skills, why why didn't the studio make
Speaker 1: her a star? Right? Like? Why does that mean? Do
Speaker 1: it with other girls? Right? That don't have as much
Speaker 1: to offer? So why didn't Why didn't that happen for Lauren?
Speaker 1: Did you think that she would at least be like
Speaker 1: Sandra Bullock or sure Melissa McCarthy like sure, which she
Speaker 1: works all the time. I mean, you know she's not.
Speaker 1: It's not the same as Melissa. No, It's like, how
Speaker 1: does that woman not have a comedy film career? A
Speaker 1: big one? Right? I mean you could see her all
Speaker 1: these great films. Have you seen the proposal with Sandra Bullock?
Speaker 1: To me, that could have been Laura? I mean, I
Speaker 1: love Sandra Bullocks, she's like McQueen, but could have been
Speaker 1: that could have been more easily easily you could have
Speaker 1: You just stick her into any of those roles and
Speaker 1: she's gonna kill it. And I'm not. It's not taking
Speaker 1: anything away from anybody, you know, especially somebody has gifted
Speaker 1: a Sandra Bullock. But you know the vibe with Sandra
Speaker 1: Bullock is when she was up and coming, the town
Speaker 1: knew it. You knew that Sandra Bullock was going to
Speaker 1: be a star because everybody was behind her. And that's
Speaker 1: all you heard was Sandra Bullocks, Sandy Bullocks, Sandy Bullock.
Speaker 1: She's the next big thing. Um. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, why why didn't some studio sign her to
Speaker 1: a multi picture deal and say rock and roll with
Speaker 1: these comedy scripts with these great writers, and I mean,
Speaker 1: she could have made those studios a bundle. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Maybe I don't understand the business as
Speaker 1: much as I think I do, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe she's I don't know. It's so interesting
Speaker 1: because Gilmar Girls is such an interesting case study like
Speaker 1: college classes. We'll talk about it because it has been
Speaker 1: so big on television for twenty years, because it has
Speaker 1: its second life and its third life have been bigger
Speaker 1: than its first life. And that doesn't happen that often.
Speaker 1: Because you've got people like Lauren Graham at the center
Speaker 1: of it. And it's like, Okay, I don't want to
Speaker 1: get people to take this wrong because I don't want
Speaker 1: to get the emails. Melissa McCarthy completely deserved everything she's
Speaker 1: she's getting because of her skill set, because of her
Speaker 1: dedication to her craft. I mean, she she's she writes
Speaker 1: her own characters, she writes her own screenplays. She's she's
Speaker 1: brilliant at crafting characters and creating original characters. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a skill that she probably always had. But she
Speaker 1: you know, she was in the Grownlings for years and
Speaker 1: it was intensified training, and it was just brilliant, brilliant,
Speaker 1: brilliant and everybody but you know, why not, Lauren Graham,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's really interesting explain this to me.
Speaker 1: As you're maybe she loves doing TV because she's I
Speaker 1: don't know, as you're talking, everybody wants a film career.
Speaker 1: She's been in a lot of movies, but everybody wants
Speaker 1: three other standouts. And Matt Zukri has an amazing career too.
Speaker 1: Milo is a huge, huge star, right, but not in film? Correct,
Speaker 1: Jarrett had a lucky but not in film. I know.
Speaker 1: This is like my point and Alexis is in Handmade
Speaker 1: Stale and she is freaking brilliant in handmaid Stale. Like her,
Speaker 1: it is not rory at all, and it is these
Speaker 1: people have huge careers, but they all did stay in television.
Speaker 1: Sisterhood of the Trailing Fans, sorry, gotta gotta slide that.
Speaker 1: And she she had, she was in some good films.
Speaker 1: She was in Sin City, she was in Sisterhood the
Speaker 1: Trailing Pants, she was in she was in some good,
Speaker 1: good films some good people too. But in Lauren Graham's case,
Speaker 1: I mean, why didn't Judd Apatow throw her in with
Speaker 1: with his uh clan of of talented comedic actors. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's brilliant, She's absolutely brilliant. I don't know, and I
Speaker 1: don't get I just don't get it. I mean, how
Speaker 1: do you watch an episode? You're just right, I understand,
Speaker 1: I understand. I mean, I'm I'm laying too much down
Speaker 1: on your plan to tall. She's like five s eight
Speaker 1: maybe five ten? No, I no, not five ten, but
Speaker 1: she's yeah, she's tall. She's five eight five nine maybe yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's but so what I know, I don't mean Blanchet
Speaker 1: like six ft tall. And I just cannot imagine. Look,
Speaker 1: if I'm a director and I've got a deal with
Speaker 1: the studio and I've you know, I've got hits under
Speaker 1: my belt, and I'm and my wife says, you've got
Speaker 1: to see this show, this Gilmore Girls, And I'm watching
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girl show like I saw this episode. I want
Speaker 1: that girl in my film. I'm saying, I'm bringing her in.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't understand. I love I'm still I
Speaker 1: love Laura Lie, so of course I love Lauren. And
Speaker 1: I have seen Lauren Graham do some interviews with like
Speaker 1: talk show host and she's a funny person. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Well, someday we may have to
Speaker 1: ask her that question. Oh I'm seeing if I missed
Speaker 1: anything else. The only other thing that kind of disturbed
Speaker 1: me it was when Luke was obviously dealing with the
Speaker 1: funeral and Laura Lize running the diner. I have concerns,
Speaker 1: and everybody could kind of tell me about this. I
Speaker 1: felt that there was an unrefrigerated bottle of ranch sitting
Speaker 1: out behind her. Yeah, maybe both look at the register.
Speaker 1: That can ranch be left out all day as long
Speaker 1: as it's not opened at the grocery store. It's not
Speaker 1: we're talking about it obviously, it's talking about the diner, right, Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a fair that. That's a fair answer. So it
Speaker 1: was there. She opens it when people want ranch, and
Speaker 1: then it goes into the fridge. Everybody take a close look.
Speaker 1: It's when she's at the register, probably when she was
Speaker 1: ordering the b LT and I saw this, I was like,
Speaker 1: all Ranch. It's the details. It's the details that keep
Speaker 1: us up at night. We don't sleep people. I don't
Speaker 1: want any food poisoning coming from Luke's Diner. Canceled the
Speaker 1: day Spot. We're gonna watch it again. We gotta watch
Speaker 1: it again on Earth more details. I just talked about
Speaker 1: the fashion. Do we need to take a break. I
Speaker 1: think we'd better take a break, because, man, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you something. I need to eat another pound of chocolate
Speaker 1: to get my energy out. My god. First of all,
Speaker 1: I shoved a sugar cookie in my mouth before this episode,
Speaker 1: which is probably super obvious because I think I'm very spazzy.
Speaker 1: I ate some Valentine's chalk, but my wife got me
Speaker 1: this this wonderful. Oh it's just so good. It's like,
Speaker 1: what is it? What it's like walnuts and chocolate. Yeah
Speaker 1: or no, No, it's more, you know, but it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I mean, I mean it's so I
Speaker 1: mean we have that stuff, of course we do. But man, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and when we come back, Amy
Speaker 1: wants to get into some fashion. I'm gonna sort of
Speaker 1: set that out, of course, and have another couple of
Speaker 1: five or six chocolate squares. Thanks very much, We'll see
Speaker 1: you soon. Yeah, all right, everybody, we're back. I am reinvigorated.
Speaker 1: I have just eaten a boatload of chocolate squares. I'm
Speaker 1: very happy. Riley, Danielle, do you guys love the fashion
Speaker 1: as much as I do on this show? For am
Speaker 1: I the realm? That really like? Because I I think
Speaker 1: I just the way lower Lie dresses for me is
Speaker 1: just amazing. Yeah, she looked great in this episode. The
Speaker 1: go ahead. Sorry, I'm I'm going to sit out. Sorry
Speaker 1: you were going to say the floral coat at the funeral.
Speaker 1: She looked great. She looked great in every scene. I agree. Wait, Danielle, Riley,
Speaker 1: do you guys you know it's not what stands out
Speaker 1: to you? No, not really. I think I like lines better.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, lines I'm like a magnet to lines,
Speaker 1: lines and clown pillow. I I become obsessed with the fashion.
Speaker 1: And I remember when it was on the first run
Speaker 1: of Really shopping and trying to dress the way Laura
Speaker 1: I dressed. And I noticed it in this episode because
Speaker 1: she wears low low waste jeans, really low rise which
Speaker 1: are coming back, and she had those low waist jeans
Speaker 1: and I think there was a belt. She just the fashion.
Speaker 1: To me, it's one, It's super It's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite parts. I love coat, the floral coat at the funeral.
Speaker 1: I did like seeing Luke in a tux It wasn't
Speaker 1: it wasn't a tux whatever. It wasn't going to tuxedo
Speaker 1: shot up a funeral, the tuxedo on top getting out
Speaker 1: of a carriage with a cane. Oh my god. And
Speaker 1: then there was another she wore. I think it was
Speaker 1: a tound meeting. I could be wrong, but she was
Speaker 1: wearing bright red pants and then she had sort of
Speaker 1: what I would call like a button down denim. Sure,
Speaker 1: but it was red, white and blue. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't really notice the fashion of the other people, but
Speaker 1: for me, it's like what she is wearing is it's like,
Speaker 1: it's like sex in the city to me, I want
Speaker 1: to pay attention to what Lorala is wearing in every
Speaker 1: episode you're supposed to Yeah, I mean apparently not with
Speaker 1: these people. I do appreciate a good Laura Lee out it.
Speaker 1: I will say that she I love her. Usually her
Speaker 1: shirts are always something funny, like she had like a
Speaker 1: cat on one Like, it's always like fun and different. Right,
Speaker 1: I have googled If anybody listening knows, I am so
Speaker 1: desperately searching for the pink turtlenext weater with the Dog.
Speaker 1: I mean I probably spent two hours on the Internet
Speaker 1: to see if I could find it on eBay or
Speaker 1: posh mark or like anywhere that it was a bright
Speaker 1: pink turtle next water with the dog. Find the picture.
Speaker 1: But but why do you what did you consider the
Speaker 1: wardrobe on her this episode different from other episodes? I
Speaker 1: love her. She looked very chic throughout this entire episode,
Speaker 1: no matter what she was wearing. Perfect words. She cheek. Yes,
Speaker 1: you are correct, less kind of young because sometimes she
Speaker 1: wears the right yoga sucks or the cat it was
Speaker 1: more age appropriate, but it was sleek. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: very nice. That's very correct, very chic. Yeah, but pink
Speaker 1: turtle next weater. We're gonna get that information to you
Speaker 1: straight away. Um, all right, you want to get into
Speaker 1: uh favorite lines? Yeah, before we do that, do you
Speaker 1: feel any better about your performance? No? Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about no. No, see I listen.
Speaker 1: I just did not like the casket scene very much
Speaker 1: when you were trying to squish the stuff in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't like that at all. I didn't like what
Speaker 1: I did in that scene at all. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm just too critical and and now I you know,
Speaker 1: I can look back and I can be objective about
Speaker 1: it at me. And I just really wish I could
Speaker 1: go back in the time machine and redo that eppisode,
Speaker 1: redo that scene. You know, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: wasn't my best, so it made me sad. But you know,
Speaker 1: this is okay. Here's another testament to to Lauren Graham.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's really difficult for your best work to
Speaker 1: end up in the final cut. There's because I don't
Speaker 1: know that I have that many takes in me anyway,
Speaker 1: because I'm always really prepared right off the bat and
Speaker 1: out of the gate, you know, I'll get it into
Speaker 1: or I'm not going to get it, or I'll get
Speaker 1: it into and I always get it in the first two.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't get better for me after that. And
Speaker 1: that's just how I am as an act or some
Speaker 1: people their first five or a rehearsal, right, and then
Speaker 1: they just keep getting better and better and better and better. No,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go out of the gate. As soon
Speaker 1: as that gate opens. I'm like, that's gonna be my
Speaker 1: your best performance. Um, so I would just like to
Speaker 1: go back and do it. But the thing is my
Speaker 1: point is do you think they used a later take? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into that. I mean they
Speaker 1: you know, there's so many there's so many different parts
Speaker 1: of a scene that have to work together that it's
Speaker 1: not you know, they probably do consider your best work
Speaker 1: and we can't use it for this reason and that
Speaker 1: reason because it doesn't match this or something. You can
Speaker 1: see a mic or whatever that happens. But it just
Speaker 1: seems like her work is always top notch because it's
Speaker 1: so consistent throughout every episode that I've seen so far,
Speaker 1: and I've seen almost forty of them now right, I
Speaker 1: mean so, and and it's like I'm not seeing any flaws.
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing any you know, glaring mistakes or timing
Speaker 1: issues or anything like that. I mean, everything is just
Speaker 1: so easy and spot on and nuanced and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Especially in this episode, the humor was just so underplayed.
Speaker 1: It was just fantastic. Um. But to get it to
Speaker 1: that level, imagine what didn't make the cut because of
Speaker 1: you know, screw ups or whatever. You or somebody dropped
Speaker 1: something in the background, all we gotta sorry cut, But
Speaker 1: you know that was a great Taylor Lauren. You know,
Speaker 1: somebody dropped to Coke Caine in the back. We gotta go.
Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, but it's like even her
Speaker 1: mediocre stuff is fantastic because that's usually what ends up
Speaker 1: in the episode to be done right right, And that's
Speaker 1: the that's the amazing part about it. Really quick note
Speaker 1: that I want to let you know because I read
Speaker 1: every Instagram comment we get, and people, the people listening
Speaker 1: want to hear you talk about acting. They yeah, So
Speaker 1: I want you to know because you know, the majority
Speaker 1: of people want to hear exactly what you just told.
Speaker 1: And as a human myself, that was to I find
Speaker 1: that so interesting. So yeah, keep them coming as you
Speaker 1: remember stuff like that we like it. But it's just
Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to compliment her some more
Speaker 1: because you know, she didn't get the accolades she deserves.
Speaker 1: She didn't get a film career out of it, really,
Speaker 1: and her work should be recognized. Great work should be recognized,
Speaker 1: because it's really hard with that kind of a schedule,
Speaker 1: with eighty pages do with all that time, like to
Speaker 1: be great in every moment of every scene. And she
Speaker 1: is and it's a remarkable achievement. And I want people
Speaker 1: to understand how hard that is to do well. And
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me, and it made me feel a
Speaker 1: little bad, But I am interested to hear that that
Speaker 1: wasn't your favorite scene and you didn't love your performance
Speaker 1: as much as it makes you sort of cringe to
Speaker 1: talk about it. It's like, that's interesting. It was bad.
Speaker 1: It was just it was just bad. It was bad acting.
Speaker 1: It was just really good. It was not connected. It
Speaker 1: was over the top. You know, I'm flapping my hands around,
Speaker 1: in my arms around like some kind of spas. I
Speaker 1: I just I did not like that scene with the
Speaker 1: casket in that, you know, and if other people noticed,
Speaker 1: maybe they awful appreciate you saying it or someone like me.
Speaker 1: It was like I enjoyed that scene and didn't even notice. No. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm a tough critic, you know. I know what good
Speaker 1: acting isn't bad acting is. And that was not good.
Speaker 1: That was not good. Um So I threw a flag.
Speaker 1: I picked myself out of the game. Sorry, go to
Speaker 1: the locker room, you know. Sorry, I just I just
Speaker 1: was really I was kind of die. I got up
Speaker 1: and walked away after that scene. I had to go
Speaker 1: get a chocolate square after that. It takes you out.
Speaker 1: But as an actor, like a regular viewer, I was
Speaker 1: just like, sorry, man, I mean it's like, it's like
Speaker 1: that scene. My acting in that scene was was the
Speaker 1: opposite of Shakespeare's advice to his players. Okay, if you
Speaker 1: want to go back and if you want to go
Speaker 1: into Hamlet and and and read What Shakes what Hamlet
Speaker 1: is saying to the players about acting, And that's really
Speaker 1: Shakespeare telling people what great acting is and what not
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. I did all that. I did all
Speaker 1: the things you're not supposed to do, unless is Walter
Speaker 1: crun Kind with a special report. Word comes from across
Speaker 1: the The American actor Scott Patterson has broken in the
Speaker 1: basement of the Royal Shakespeare Company, three bottles of wine incoherence, salivating.
Speaker 1: We'll take you there now to London, England. Speak to
Speaker 1: the speech. I pray you as I pronounced it to you,
Speaker 1: trippingly on the tongue. But if you malvet, as many
Speaker 1: of your players do, I had to leave the town
Speaker 1: criss boke my lines. Nor do not solve the air
Speaker 1: too much with your hand. Thus, but use all gently.
Speaker 1: But in the very torrent tempest, and as I may say,
Speaker 1: the whirlwind of passion, you must acquire and beget a
Speaker 1: temperance that may give it smoothness. Oh, it offends me
Speaker 1: to the soul to hear a robustious periwink paged fellow tear,
Speaker 1: a passion to tatters, to very rags, to split the
Speaker 1: years of the groundlings were the most party, capable of
Speaker 1: nothing but inexplicable dumb shows a noise. I have suff
Speaker 1: a fellow whip frow, and doing termat it out hurts
Speaker 1: her it. Pray you avoid it. Be not too tame, neither,
Speaker 1: but let your own discretion be your too, to suit
Speaker 1: the action of the word. The word to the action,
Speaker 1: with this special observance that your step not the modesty
Speaker 1: of nature. For anything so overdone is from the purpose
Speaker 1: of playing, whose end, both at first and now wasn't
Speaker 1: is to hold us twit a mirror up to nature,
Speaker 1: to show virtue her own feature, scorn, her own image,
Speaker 1: and the very agent body of the time, his form
Speaker 1: and pressure. Neither overdone or comptari off. Though it makes
Speaker 1: the unskillful laugh, cannot but make the judicious greet the
Speaker 1: centure of which one must, and your allowance over way
Speaker 1: a whole theater of others. Are there be players that
Speaker 1: I have seen player and heard others praise, and that
Speaker 1: highly not to speak it profanely, but neither having the
Speaker 1: accent of Christians, nor the gate of Christian pagan nor
Speaker 1: man have so strutted and bellowed that I have thought
Speaker 1: some of nature's journeymen had made. Men have not made
Speaker 1: them well. They imitated humanity so abominably we have reformed
Speaker 1: that indifferently with us, sir, Oh, reform it altogether. And
Speaker 1: that those that play your clowns speak no more than
Speaker 1: is set down for them, For there be of them
Speaker 1: that will themselves laugh, to set on some quantity of
Speaker 1: barren spectators to laugh too, That when the meantime, some
Speaker 1: necessary question of the play began to be considered. That's
Speaker 1: Fallainius and shows the most pitiful ambition in the fool
Speaker 1: that uses it. Make you ready. British authorities caught up
Speaker 1: to Patterson as he was roasting marshmallows on the main
Speaker 1: stage at RSC. He'd built a bonfire, was naked, playing
Speaker 1: a stolen ray Finds guitar and singing songs. Chief Constable
Speaker 1: Smithereen from the First District is quoted as saying he's
Speaker 1: not a bad bloke at all. In fact, he had
Speaker 1: extra marshmallows for me and my mates. I could have
Speaker 1: done without the singing. It was rubbish. Patterson was booked
Speaker 1: into Scotland Yard on charges of using a bad British accent,
Speaker 1: well being American and doing Shakespeare. And that's the way
Speaker 1: it is. This is Walter Cronkite from New York good Night.
Speaker 1: I started thinking about Taylor Dossey, saying, is that the
Speaker 1: long haired break that wanted to beat the down trouptal
Speaker 1: By the way, didn't you love Taylor sitting at the
Speaker 1: table playing with his hair like Luke, like he's lost
Speaker 1: because he was so stressed that I called a farmer's market.
Speaker 1: You all call it a market. I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: love when he's like beautiful sprouts for the beautiful lady. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite lines? Uh, Riley, what's your favorite line? Um?
Speaker 1: I love when they're in the town meeting and this
Speaker 1: Paddy goes the squash is beautiful, but that sexy. It's
Speaker 1: sexy squash. That was a good invitation. That was really good.
Speaker 1: Nail don't one, Danielle. So mine was when Emily and
Speaker 1: Laurel I were going back and forth about you and Laura.
Speaker 1: I goes he feeds me, and it was so relatable,
Speaker 1: like he is he fleeds you. Amy. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think I've given all mine fifty different times. But every
Speaker 1: line she said about the food, which Riley already caves.
Speaker 1: But I'd say my top was fourth force don't care.
Speaker 1: I a four force don't care right right to Kirk,
Speaker 1: I four fourths don't care. Um. My favorite line I
Speaker 1: think I've stated at it. It's when Laura la comes
Speaker 1: in late to the town meeting and says, gosh, I
Speaker 1: hope I'm not pregnant. I just hope I'm not pregnant.
Speaker 1: What did you say that? I mean that was good.
Speaker 1: I spit, I spit a chocolate square out of my
Speaker 1: mouth when she's on it. I know we say it
Speaker 1: every time, repeating ourselves and being redundant, repeating our skills
Speaker 1: and being redundant. But that's why you can watch the
Speaker 1: shows seven times, these episodes seven times, because you catch
Speaker 1: a new line every But I'll stop repeating myself and
Speaker 1: being redundant and saying the same thing over and over
Speaker 1: again and then repeating myself. God Almighty, I can talk
Speaker 1: about this episode forever, but I think let's wrap it up. Kids,
Speaker 1: anything else? Huh? Next week? Back in the saddle again? Oh?
Speaker 1: So that's twenty? Is that episode? What a number? Episode
Speaker 1: is that is that? I don't know what episode is. Gosh,
Speaker 1: we're flying through this season. We're almost through it. We
Speaker 1: might have to start looking for jobs soon. Jesus. We
Speaker 1: just started this podcast. We just started this and we're
Speaker 1: already like blowing through season two. Wow, it flies, doesn't it? Man?
Speaker 1: Oh man? Alright, everybody that's gonna wrap up? What is
Speaker 1: this episode? Let me hang out, let me do this again?
Speaker 1: Al Right, everybody that's gonna wrap up Episode seventeen. Dead
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