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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's Thursday, and that

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Speaker 1: means that we have our whole crew here with us today.

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Speaker 1: So we have Kyle, Sarah Astaban, and me and we

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Speaker 1: wanted to go through some kind of news of the

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Speaker 1: day stories and just get everybody's take. Again. I love

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Speaker 1: doing this because we have three different generations represented, so

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Speaker 1: we get to have everybody's different opinion on how things

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Speaker 1: are going. And the story I chose is looks like

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Speaker 1: it's a cancer story, which I recognize that I talk

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Speaker 1: about cancer a lot because obviously I've had cancer. But

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Speaker 1: I picked this one because do you remember a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago when we were in the office and Asketeban

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Speaker 1: drank as elsius it had I'd prefer not to remember so,

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Speaker 1: but you said it was cracked, right.

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Speaker 2: The can was cracked, and it was there was a

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Speaker 3: And I've literally not had a Celsius since then. I

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Speaker 1: I know, and we shouldn't, I mean, so this is

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Speaker 1: not a knock against Celsius. We do think it was cracked,

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Speaker 1: so that it was not their fault. It was that

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Speaker 1: the can was open. However, it has horrified me because

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Speaker 1: of the slime like gel thing that came out of

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Speaker 1: that can. Anyway, so I decided that I would talk

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Speaker 1: article in the Daily Mail that they these researchers now

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Speaker 1: believe that the colon cancer crisis in young people, which

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Speaker 1: is it is? I mean, even if you look at

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Speaker 1: rates in Michigan, they've increased significantly. Researchers are saying that

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Speaker 1: they've had an increase in colon cancer that is like

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Speaker 1: in young people under fifty, that is out of this world.

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Speaker 1: It's up. Says that it's up twenty percent in cases

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Speaker 1: of people under fifty. And so I just went through

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Speaker 1: of colon cancer and they're screening younger. But I started thinking,

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Speaker 1: like all these podcasts that we do about food and

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Speaker 1: what we're eating, and how is that actually contributing to

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Speaker 1: so this study came out saying that researchers believe that

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Speaker 1: it's this taurine. I think that's how you say it,

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Speaker 1: that's in energy drinks could be causing colon cancer and

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Speaker 1: young people. And these young people they're drinking Red Bull,

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Speaker 1: they're drinking Celsius, they're drinking Monster. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: actually they're going to be doing more research on this sore,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think i'd want to be a part

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Speaker 1: drink the different energy drinks and see what there happens

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Speaker 1: know if you guys remember, but just a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: I was remember last year when Celsius. I feel like

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Speaker 1: And I wonder what are we actually eating because like

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Speaker 1: But I mean, it's not like you can come out

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Speaker 1: I you see cancer more and more. And I know

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Speaker 1: It's like they don't even comprehend what they're eating is

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Speaker 1: I know I sound crazy, but it has been like

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Speaker 4: Don't you think this sort of research would be done

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Speaker 1: That see, that's where I think we mistakingly believe we're safe.

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Speaker 1: But instead, I this is going to sound conspiratorial, but

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Speaker 1: And then you get the Democrats saying, well, we should

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Speaker 4: So do you think the FDA should be doing more

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Speaker 1: And when your purpose is to keep people safe, that's

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Speaker 1: You're going to buy it in masks.

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I think people in government do

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Speaker 1: build all this area downtown where everybody would want to

436
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Speaker 1: go and hang out. And the downtown was very industrial,

437
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: had been very industrial for many years. And we our

438
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Speaker 1: factory was down there as well. And let me tell you,

439
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Speaker 1: this city did everything they could to get us out

440
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Speaker 1: of there. Get out, get out, get out by property

441
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Speaker 1: outside of town. I mean, it's like they no one

442
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Speaker 1: in the government understands the challenges of trying to move

443
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Speaker 1: a corporation. But it didn't matter because they were going

444
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Speaker 1: to make this town a tourist attraction. It's not on

445
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Speaker 1: the beach. It's not like you can walk to the beach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at a Holland, you know

447
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Speaker 1: you have a downtown down there that attracts people. There's

448
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Speaker 1: other reasons to go to downtown Holland if you look

449
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Speaker 1: at Grand Haven, you can walk to the beach from

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Speaker 1: downtown Grand Haven. The water is right there. You have

451
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Speaker 1: in Miskegan, you have Miskegan Lake, but there's no waterfront

452
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Speaker 1: where you can just go out and hang out. There's

453
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Speaker 1: not a good reason to be attracted to mis But

454
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: they wanted to make it this place where people go.

455
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Speaker 1: They have done a great job of doing that. I

456
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: will say they have a conference center down there, they

457
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Speaker 1: have the hockey arena, they have the all of the beach,

458
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Speaker 1: volleyball in the summer. They have the Miskeigan Farmers Market.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, you have to be actually able

460
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Speaker 1: to pay people to live in the town to go

461
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Speaker 1: visit it. And that is the concept that the elected

462
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Speaker 1: officials in this state have not understood. Tennessee gets it.

463
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Speaker 1: Governor Lee has done his damnedest to bring as many

464
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Speaker 1: businesses as he can to Tennessee. And he goes and

465
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Speaker 1: he poaches them from other states. And I have to

466
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Speaker 1: say I give him credit. I mean, look, you got

467
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Speaker 1: Ford and brought a huge brought what to Ford factories

468
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Speaker 1: to Tennessee. And it's about busting your tail every day

469
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Speaker 1: to try to make your state the best. That's what

470
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Speaker 1: being governor is about. Right. You have to have the infrastructure,

471
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Speaker 1: you have to have the businesses, but if you don't

472
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Speaker 1: provide people with an income, they can spend that money.

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Speaker 1: And so if you look at Miskeigan, oh they have

474
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Speaker 1: this beautiful downtown within a few months. But I mean

475
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Speaker 1: the turnover of restaurants down there is crazy. It's one

476
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Speaker 1: mom and pop restaurant after another that tries to start up,

477
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Speaker 1: and they fail because there's nobody with money to spend.

478
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Speaker 1: If you don't pay people in the town, they can't

479
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: go there and enjoy the restaurants. And you know the reason,

480
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Speaker 1: they don't ever get a chain restaurant that people know,

481
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Speaker 1: and there's not a I don't think there's a single

482
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Speaker 1: one in downtown Miskegan. I don't believe there's a single

483
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Speaker 1: chain down there. And the reason is that they look

484
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Speaker 1: at the economic income from that area and decide whether

485
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Speaker 1: or not people can afford to come to their restaurant

486
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Speaker 1: and know every single one has passed on Miskeigan because

487
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Speaker 1: there's no business there. And yet these electeds cannot get

488
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Speaker 1: it through their head that you have to try to

489
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Speaker 1: get people to come and work This is the same

490
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Speaker 1: chamber of commerce where the young people are like, we

491
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Speaker 1: want to be able to come at ten thirty and

492
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Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, there's so cool. It's very frustrat to

493
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Speaker 1: me that no one seems to get it. And if

494
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Speaker 1: you leave this state of miss area, state of Michigan

495
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: and you go to a Tennessee, you're like overwhelmed with

496
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Speaker 1: the excitement and the movement and the energy in the

497
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: entire state. That's not happening here. And yet we have

498
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: Whitmer going out and she's what campaigning in North Carolina

499
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: for Biden. I'm like, she has raised more money and

500
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: spent more time in other states raising money, but not

501
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: Bryant brought a single business to this state since she

502
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Speaker 1: started here, unless she goes to China.

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Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is that she's going to these

504
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: other states and touting the Michigan model, and I'm like,

505
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Speaker 3: I would avoid the Michigan model with at all class

506
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Speaker 3: at this point because Okay, I know she's talking politically

507
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: the Michigan model, but where has that gotten the everyday

508
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 3: citizens of Michigan. At the end of the day, people

509
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: want to go somewhere where they have a good job,

510
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 3: they're paid well, they can afford to buy a house.

511
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Speaker 3: I mean all of those things when you look at

512
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Speaker 3: like even interest rates.

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Speaker 1: There not enough people that live here that can tell

514
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Speaker 1: people how bad it is. She can hire behind the

515
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Speaker 1: fact that she has zero population.

516
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Speaker 4: And I think you make a good point that people

517
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Speaker 4: like Bill Lee are going to other states. When have

518
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 4: you ever heard of Gretchen Whitmer going to a different

519
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: state and bringing a company from a different state. That's

520
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: not happening. What she's doing is you said she's in

521
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Speaker 4: DC this week. She's in DC trying to get more

522
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 4: federal money for various projects, even though she's got a

523
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: record budget that she proposed another record budget, And so

524
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Speaker 4: what in the other thing that she's doing is she's

525
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: trying to bring Chinese companies, in South Korean companies, and

526
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Speaker 4: European companies into the state of Michigan with massive taxpayer

527
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Speaker 4: funded incentives.

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Speaker 1: I would argue she's not She's going to Japan and

529
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: all these different places because she wants to have international

530
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: travel on her punch card for president, and it has

531
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the benefit of the state of Michigan.

532
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Speaker 1: I believe she has used taxpayer dollars to build up

533
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Speaker 1: her future presidential campaign with no intention of bringing a

534
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Speaker 1: single job to Michigan. She went to a company in

535
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Speaker 1: Japan that makes robots to eliminate people's jobs. Is completely

536
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: run by robots, and she's like, oh, we're thinking of

537
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Speaker 1: bringing them to Michigan. I'm like, awesome. I hope the

538
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Speaker 1: CEO has a great time jet skiing on the lakes

539
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: because apparently he's the only person that has to work there. Well,

540
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: and she.

541
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Speaker 3: Did technically go to other states. Remember she said she

542
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: was going to eat Indiana's lunch and take all their business.

543
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Speaker 3: But the way she was going to do that was

544
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Speaker 3: through abortion, not actually bringing jobs. She's just going to

545
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Speaker 3: lure people in with abortion.

546
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Speaker 4: She just ate the lunch.

547
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Speaker 1: Ye, she did eat their line that STI mind, you're

548
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: being very quiet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know anything about this. I don't you know.

550
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Speaker 1: So have you been to Nashville lately? We went through

551
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Speaker 1: Nashville not long ago, didn't we?

552
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

553
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Last year? Oh yes, sure, Yeah, Kyle just goes there

554
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: to go to gravesite.

555
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Speaker 4: But I think, but you're that's true, but your but

556
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: you have family here. If you were just separate your

557
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: family connection to Michigan, if you were looking for somewhere

558
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 4: to move, what would you be looking for? Would you

559
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: be looking for sort of I would you be looking for.

560
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Speaker 2: I want to be able to describe to people where

561
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Speaker 2: I live by showing them my hand. So Michigan really

562
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: is perfect for me on that front.

563
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Speaker 4: That doesn't pay the bills, though.

564
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Speaker 2: It could be a cool party trick. I just think.

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Speaker 4: I just think whether it's places like Tennessee, Nashville, or Dallas, Texas,

566
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Speaker 4: there's just a there's a different there's just a different mentality,

567
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Speaker 4: and I think there's a different attitude. And I think

568
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Speaker 4: one of the other complications is when your state like

569
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Speaker 4: Michigan and your population is shrinking, that means obviously there's

570
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: fewer taxes. It costs more to upkeep infrastructure that was

571
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: built for a significantly larger population, and people that live

572
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Speaker 4: in those communities where the infrastructure's falling apart, they expect

573
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Speaker 4: that to still be maintained and it's very expensive.

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Speaker 1: Well, because you don't have the you don't have the

575
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Speaker 1: tax base, So you can't fix the infrastructure if you

576
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: don't have the tax base. So you're right, you have

577
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: just as many roads, just as many bridges, maybe fewer people.

578
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Speaker 1: But the wear and tear has been over years and

579
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Speaker 1: there has not been the repair. Besides the fact that

580
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Speaker 1: she's saying she's fixing the roads, she's not. According to

581
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Speaker 1: the recent data that came out, they're even worse than

582
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Speaker 1: before she took office, and so she can't. She took

583
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Speaker 1: the money, she squandered it. She has made massive increases

584
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Speaker 1: in the state budget by just growing the government. Essentially,

585
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Speaker 1: she created another Department of ED. I mean, it's insane.

586
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: They will do anything to put people on their payroll,

587
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: and that is robbing the state. What I think people

588
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: don't understand is the more these government agencies that you

589
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: hear in the news, all that stuff, do not let

590
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Speaker 1: this go. Because when you hear of your governor or

591
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: somebody in your state, your even your town, growing the

592
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: city government or growing the state government, recognize that that

593
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: is taking money away from the crucial programs that you need,

594
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: the police, from the infrastructure, from anything that you rely

595
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: on government for. And these will be agencies. They will

596
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: never do a thing for you. They will never do

597
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Speaker 1: a thing for you. There's no reason for a second

598
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Department of ED in a state that is failing in education.

599
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Speaker 1: What you should do is hold use the current permanent

600
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Speaker 1: bed and hold them accountable, but that's not going to.

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Speaker 4: Happen, or change change the constitutions, and to create an

602
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Speaker 4: education system that makes sense. But she's not doing that

603
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: because it's probably too much work, and instead she's just

604
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Speaker 4: creating more bureaucracy.

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Speaker 1: Well, now she has to go out and campaign for

606
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden because he can't speak for himself apparently. And

607
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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that this is coming out, and Sarah,

608
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Speaker 1: you have the story about it, but I think it's

609
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Speaker 1: interesting that it's coming out because the mainstream media can't

610
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Speaker 1: hide it anymore that he can't speak. I mean, what

611
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Speaker 1: we've seen going on with the attacks on Donald Trump

612
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: are insane, but you couple that with a guy who

613
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Speaker 1: who is not mentally capable of being president becomes very dangerous. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a story in the Wall Street Journal

615
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: this morning and the title is behind closed Doors Biden

616
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: shows signs of slipping, which I think is a little

617
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Speaker 3: bit ironic because it's not just behind closed doors. I mean,

618
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Speaker 3: I think we can all see it, but it's not

619
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Speaker 3: some quick hit. I mean, the Wall Street Journal is

620
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Speaker 3: not just writing some quick hit that they could go

621
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Speaker 3: after him. I mean, this is forty five interviews. They

622
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Speaker 3: obviously make the point that it's more Republicans than Democrats,

623
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Speaker 3: but Democrats are included in this, and it's over months

624
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Speaker 3: of conversation where they talk about meetings with Joe Biden

625
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Speaker 3: or instances that they've had with him where he just

626
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: genuinely is reading from notes, closing his eyes for extended periods.

627
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Speaker 3: He's mixing key leaders up. I mean, I get it,

628
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: people fumble names, it happens, but when you're talking about

629
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Speaker 3: I mean, in twenty twenty one, I think he was

630
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: at one of the g twenty summits and he was

631
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Speaker 3: referencing a French leader that had died in the nineties,

632
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: and that he was saying he talked to him that week.

633
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a new level of confusion, if we're

634
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: going to call it that. But I think it's starting

635
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: to come out now, and at a certain point we

636
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: have to say, are we going to actually allow this

637
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: to happen anymore? Because I don't think this man's running

638
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: the country. I mean, you look at some of these stories,

639
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: and you look at all the things that you hear.

640
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: It's not just behind closed doors. I mean it's in

641
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Speaker 3: you can all see it on camera. There's one quote

642
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: that I think is funny. One of the Democrats was

643
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: trying to save him and say, yeah, what you see

644
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: on TV is what you get. What I see on

645
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: TV is pretty scary.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think that one of the statements in there

647
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: is that in these meetings he's closing his eyes and

648
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: people have wondered if he's completely zoned out, and they're like,

649
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: is he still awake? Is he paying attention? It's I

650
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: mean that alone should be he should have stepped down.

651
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Speaker 1: The problem is there is no answer for this. If

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Speaker 1: somebody who has no mental acuity wants to run for office,

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Speaker 1: you can, and the only answer is that people don't

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Speaker 1: vote for him. However, it's an unusual situation because the

655
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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal is unique in reporting this. Most of

656
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Speaker 1: these people are just holding his water and protecting him.

657
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Speaker 1: If you look at the CNNs and the MSNBC's of

658
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: the world, man, they are all about protecting Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Well, and we look at some things as funny, like

660
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Speaker 3: he talked about his uncle that was eaten by cannibals,

661
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Speaker 3: But the under like the flip side of that is

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Speaker 3: he actually kind of caused international outcry because the leader

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Speaker 3: of Papa New Guinea came out and essentially said he

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Speaker 3: was offended, and here we are offending other international leaders

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Speaker 3: because of crazy tales that our president is making.

666
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Speaker 4: That he didn't he didn't have to talk about that. Yeah,

667
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Speaker 4: it was like an unforced error. I think, well, when

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Speaker 4: you I see a lot of these clips and it's

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Speaker 4: it's uncomfortable and it's disturbing. And there have been instances

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Speaker 4: where the audience has sort of laughed at him because

671
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Speaker 4: of the things he said, or he's like mid thought

672
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, well, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: get into that, and it just is very uncomfortable. And

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Speaker 4: there was there was a time he didn't interview with

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Speaker 4: Time where he mixed up Putin and she And you know,

676
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Speaker 4: as you said, Sarah, people make mistakes all the time.

677
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Speaker 4: But you know, if he's on some high stakes phone

678
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Speaker 4: call and he's you know, babbling incoherently, that can have

679
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Speaker 4: real world implications. And so the things that are happening

680
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Speaker 4: and if this is what we're seeing in public, imagine

681
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Speaker 4: what actually is happening behind closed doors.

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Speaker 3: They were trying to say that. At one point I

683
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: heard him talk about how young people will like him

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Speaker 3: because they will he will be like their grandpa. And

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Speaker 3: that's what I just like, es one, You're the youngest

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Speaker 3: one here. I mean, do you think of Joe Biden?

687
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Speaker 3: Do you want your president to be like your lovable

688
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 3: old grandpa that maybe gets confused sometimes.

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Speaker 2: No. But but I'll say this, I have a theory.

690
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: There was this conspiracy that Boris Johnson, who was notoriously

691
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Speaker 2: unkept and kind of a klutz and stuff like that.

692
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Speaker 2: There was a theory that he did it because it

693
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Speaker 2: made him look more human and people liked him better.

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Speaker 2: I think behind closed doors, Joe Biden is like the

695
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Speaker 2: Wolf of Wall Street. He's making deals. Wow, he's in

696
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Speaker 2: command of everything, and then when he goes in front

697
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Speaker 2: of a camera, he puts on the dementia hat and

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Speaker 2: he's just, you know, he's a little quiet and a

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Speaker 2: little confused.

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Speaker 4: There was an snl skit of Ronald Reagan where that

701
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 4: was the premise. It was like when he was when

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Speaker 4: the door was closed in the Oval office, he was,

703
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: you know, barking commands and he had this map. Maybe

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Speaker 4: he was like the general.

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Speaker 2: But it's not that it's not that unrealistic. I mean

706
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Speaker 2: Lyndon Johnson had the kind of you know, happy, go

707
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Speaker 2: lucky Southern appeal, and then behind closed doors he was

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Speaker 2: towering over people, kind of threatening.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's the chance that he's very angry.

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Speaker 1: But his brand has always been to be like this

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Speaker 1: master negotiator, and he was always very sharp as a

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Speaker 1: senator and kind of he would mock people and he

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Speaker 1: was cutthroat, Like when he was at his best, he

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Speaker 1: was cutthroat and he was in command. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's why his mindset was always that he would be president,

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Speaker 1: because his trajectory was definitely going there. Obama screwed that up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I believe that he would have probably run.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's tried to run several times. He had

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Speaker 1: to step out because of his plagiarism. I watched that

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Speaker 1: whole speech of him stepping out of the race in

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Speaker 1: what it was at eighty eight and recently, and I

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Speaker 1: almost wonder if that was the Bernie Sander his Bernie

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Speaker 1: Sanders moment, where like the DNC went to him and

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Speaker 1: they were like, it's not your time, man, step aside.

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Speaker 1: We're not running you and you're going to go and

726
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Speaker 1: we're not going to take go with this plagiarism story.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna say, I screwed up and step out, and

728
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Speaker 1: he essentially did. Jill's face during that press conference is

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Speaker 1: the most telling to me. She is not the loving,

730
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Speaker 1: concerned I'm standing by him wife. She is the whoever

731
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Speaker 1: did this to us is going to pay. And I

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Speaker 1: assume that they have dearly paid, because I think Jill

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Speaker 1: is a mastermind and she is probably managing a lot

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Speaker 1: of what's happening in the White House. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon podcast.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're saying on Joe Biden. I think

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Speaker 1: it's fairly obvious that he has passed his prime. I

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Speaker 1: think that the Joe Biden of his sharp Senate days

739
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Speaker 1: would be humiliated if he understood what was happening to

740
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Speaker 1: him today. I think most of what is happening he

741
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: doesn't understand. I think he's also most people who have

742
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Speaker 1: had a relative with dementia watch him and they're like,

743
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Speaker 1: this anger, These bursts of screaming and yelling are very

744
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Speaker 1: much signs of dementia. And who is allowing this to happen?

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Speaker 1: And I mean Jill supposedly did not want Kamala Harris,

746
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Speaker 1: but whoever, whoever had that idea set this up perfectly

747
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Speaker 1: because she walks in and she looks like she's got

748
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Speaker 1: not a brain cell to rub together. I mean, she

749
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. She's walking

750
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Speaker 1: behind him the other day, just the look on her

751
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Speaker 1: face is so goofy. It's like, wait a minute, like

752
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Speaker 1: you were a big time Wasn't she the district attorney

753
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Speaker 1: or the attorney general?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, California of California.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, she walks into these events and she's

756
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Speaker 1: just unprofessional, goofy, laughing, like looking at people like, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, it's the first time. It reminds me of

758
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: when those balloons dropped from the ceiling. Every time I

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00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: see Kamala Harris, she's making the same face as Hillary

760
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: when she's like, oh, look at the balloons. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just don't believe that he is mentally healthy because

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Speaker 1: they've set it up so that it's not him. It's

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Speaker 1: not about him. It's not about Kamala. It's about the bureaucracy.

764
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Speaker 1: The swamp that we hear about is running the country.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Kamala kind of screwed him over

766
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Speaker 3: because she he was only supposed to run one term.

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Speaker 1: That's another thing. He was clearly that was.

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Speaker 3: Like his promise. Well, why does that promise suddenly change

769
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Speaker 3: because Kamala is fully incompetent and they know that she could.

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Speaker 1: Or or he's screwing over the diverse person that he chose.

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Speaker 1: Because he chose her not just because of her background

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Speaker 1: as an attorney general and someone who had command of

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Speaker 1: this you know, she was a senator, she had command

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Speaker 1: of the rule of law. But he also he was

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Speaker 1: very open about the fact that he chose her because

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Speaker 1: of her color. Yeah, and he is now not I'm sorry,

777
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Speaker 1: but he's not stepping down after he promised that he

778
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: would and essentially kind of conned her into I'll give

779
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: you this job when I'm done. And then oh, they

780
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: handed her every crap thing they could while she they

781
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Speaker 1: were in office. I mean, they have tortured the first

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Speaker 1: female black president, female and black vice president and he's

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Speaker 1: not even being caught on the carpetfore it.

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Speaker 4: You have to wonder, I'm wondering what role the Hunter

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00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 4: Biden gun case is playing in all of this, because

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Speaker 4: I saw a clip from Trey Goudi where he said,

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Speaker 4: I used to prosecute for six years, they prosecuted gun crimes.

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Speaker 4: And he said, I'm I can think of probably ten

789
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 4: cases where the circumstances, you know, drugs and or a

790
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: false statement on an application actually led to what Hunter

791
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: Biden is currently enduring that that trial. And so I

792
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 4: sort of wonder is which is a federal it's a

793
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Speaker 4: federal case, and I sort of wonder is Joe Biden

794
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: hanging on? So if Hunter gets convicted, he's able to

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Speaker 4: pardon him, because don't I don't know what other reason

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Speaker 4: I mean. And again, I you know, he's eighty how

797
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: old is he eighty something years old? And you would

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Speaker 4: think and he's been in Congress and was vice president

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Speaker 4: for eight years. He's been around. He's been around this

800
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 4: game for a very long time. And he now he

801
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 4: was elected president. He's hit the pinnacle. I suppose the

802
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 4: next best thing you can do is be re elected.

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Speaker 4: But he's got kids, he has a son that died,

804
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Speaker 4: He's got a lot of tragedy in his history. Correct,

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Speaker 4: And so at what point do you just say, I've

806
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: lived my political life and now I'm going to live

807
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: my remaining days with my family. But he's not doing that,

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Speaker 4: and it just I don't know, maybe we're just different people,

809
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Speaker 4: but that just doesn't make any sense to me.

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Speaker 1: No, but you would say if you had to pardon

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Speaker 1: your child. I mean, that's a good point.

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Speaker 4: I just it just doesn't make any sense. And and

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00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: I think you're I think Jill is the driver of

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Speaker 4: the whole bus right now, and she apparently doesn't like Kamala.

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Speaker 4: And so there's that whole dynamic, and it just as

816
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: if it's a lot of soap opera going on. But

817
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 4: you know, the Biden family dirty laundry is being aired

818
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: with the texts about Jill and the reading the book

819
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 4: and all of that, which which is also very strange

820
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: because it's the it's the Biden Department of Justice that

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Speaker 4: is dragging the Biden family through the mud in an

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Speaker 4: election year. They could have done this last year, the

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Speaker 4: year before this. You know, the the laptop, the FBI

824
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Speaker 4: had that laptop which they finally this week admitted is real,

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Speaker 4: which they had.

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Speaker 3: You remember I thought it exactly Well, now the Federal

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Speaker 3: Department of Justice.

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Speaker 4: Admitted it, admitted it as evidence as it's legitimate and real.

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Speaker 4: And so it just the whole thing is embarrassing to

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Speaker 4: the Biden family, and it's kind of shocking that it's happening.

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Speaker 4: And so I just think that's why he's could be

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Speaker 4: why he's holding on.

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Speaker 1: So why run for office if you're just gonna I mean,

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Speaker 1: both of our presidential candidates their families are just being

835
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: dragged through legal peril and having all of their dirty

836
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Speaker 1: laundry aired. And I get the people that are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you decided to be a public official and this has

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00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: to come out. I think that if it affects your

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Speaker 1: ability to do your job, that makes sense. If you

840
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: are having a lurid affair with somebody who is also

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00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: in power and taking over the state during I don't know,

842
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: a pandemic, then yeah, that should be exposed. But if

843
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: you are, if you have something like this, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's become That's why people call

845
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: the United States a been ana republic, and that's why

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00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: people are very concerned about the future if you're just

847
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: going to prosecute. But to your point, this is the

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Speaker 1: Bided Justice Department prosecuting his son, and maybe that's I

849
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Speaker 1: don't it just is it is bizarre, and there I

850
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: don't think anybody takes joy in these things. I think

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00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: there are people who go online and take joy in this,

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00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: and that is also becoming sad for society right now.

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00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I guess I give them credit because you know,

854
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: of course, the rhetoric from the administration is, you know,

855
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 4: they love to talk about gun violence and you know,

856
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 4: lump those two words together. Well, if you look at

857
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 4: the accusations against Hunter Biden and the circumstances and all

858
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: of that, he absolutely if they are consistent, which there's

859
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: not much consistency in politics, but if they are consistent

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Speaker 4: and having any shred of integrity, he has to be

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00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: held accountable for that. And it's fascinating that the DOJ

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Speaker 4: is doing that and going about it in the way

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Speaker 4: that they are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that these are the things that

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Speaker 1: we are exploring because there is a question as to

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Speaker 1: what you should be held accountable to and when this

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Speaker 1: just becomes a partisan attack, and I mean, I do

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Speaker 1: in states and in the federal government that are being

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Speaker 1: covered up and in those cases they shouldn't be, and

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Speaker 1: the true crimes that should not be or true corruption

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Speaker 1: that should not be. But I think that people are

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Speaker 1: getting confused with what campaigning is and politically taking out

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Speaker 1: your opponent in some other way. And I mean, we

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Speaker 1: see that with Trump, and I think that what happened

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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump is going to go down in history

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Speaker 1: as like the beginning of the end if something doesn't

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Speaker 1: change in this country. And I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we you know, everybody's very confident in the polls, and

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Speaker 1: I just say that everybody better be on their toes

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Speaker 1: come election time and be out there talking to their neighbors,

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Speaker 1: getting talking to door knocking, planning real events. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see if that's happening. We will see.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep everybody posted. So I will sign off for

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