Speaker 1: Thinking sideways. I don't stories of things we simply don't
Speaker 1: know the answer too. Well, Hey there on Steve next
Speaker 1: to me is oh, Devin, you're pointing at me. So
Speaker 1: I guess I say my name now, and I guess
Speaker 1: I'm Joe. And what's to do to our show? And
Speaker 1: put us in a room? And what do you get? Guys?
Speaker 1: You're fired. You are not allowed to do anymore. I'm
Speaker 1: kicking my ball and going home and sticking at balls.
Speaker 1: Oh nice, segway, sir, Well, gonna be one of those
Speaker 1: shows anyway. Today's show is going to be about something
Speaker 1: that's called the clerk Store Spears. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: right off the bat for listeners, you don't know this,
Speaker 1: but Joe and Devon obviously do. Is this is a
Speaker 1: story that I found a long time ago, one of
Speaker 1: the initial stories that I wanted to do for this show,
Speaker 1: but I held off. This is your Tom and Shrewd
Speaker 1: and to be Tiles. Yes, well, I held off just
Speaker 1: because all the conjecture. It's so hard to to try
Speaker 1: and burrow down to anything that could be factual. You know, actually,
Speaker 1: if you, if you look hard enough, you can find
Speaker 1: people that have actually seen these things with their own
Speaker 1: eyes and examine them. We'll talk about that list, and
Speaker 1: there is some of that out there. But this story
Speaker 1: is pretty fantastical, and I'm just gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: tell it the way you normally read it on those
Speaker 1: awesome pages on the web. Oh, are we talking about
Speaker 1: the black background white scripts. Well, it's it's not even.
Speaker 1: There's other sites besides your favorite kind that do this.
Speaker 1: All right, what the obligatory flying saucer charity to the gods? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: of course, So here we go. Over the last few decades,
Speaker 1: miners in South Africa have been digging up mysterious metal
Speaker 1: spheres while mining pyro philight pro fhilight. What is that?
Speaker 1: It's basically chalk for like blackboards or tailors. It's really
Speaker 1: soft chalk. The spheres measure approximately an inter or so
Speaker 1: in diameter and summer etched with three parallel grooves running
Speaker 1: around the equator, and some only have one. There are
Speaker 1: two types of some of them any at all? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there is there is that, but this is the this
Speaker 1: is your fantastic Okay, they all have grooves. Okay. Two
Speaker 1: types of spheres have been found. One is composed of
Speaker 1: solid bluish metal with flux of white, and the other
Speaker 1: is hollowed out and filled with a spongy white substance
Speaker 1: like the rock in which they're found is god. The
Speaker 1: rocket which they are found is Precambrian. So according to that,
Speaker 1: it's dated to be two point eight million. That's billion
Speaker 1: years old. If we were just talking about this, do
Speaker 1: you keep giving me crap all the time about carbon
Speaker 1: dating and how you can actually carbon date natural materials.
Speaker 1: With the rocks and stuff like, you can't tell how
Speaker 1: old they are, so what what do you I'm in
Speaker 1: the fantastical telling. So it's okay, okay, all right, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. All right. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to be able to say, wait, I know, sir, I'm
Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you. I understand. Okay. Can I continue on? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: you may proceed. Thank you. We have a gentleman by
Speaker 1: the name of Rolf Marks, who is the former curator
Speaker 1: of the Clerk Store Museum. He is quoted as saying,
Speaker 1: there is nothing scientific published about the globes, but the
Speaker 1: facts are they're found in pyro Philight, which is mined
Speaker 1: near the little town of Auto Stall. Is that how
Speaker 1: you said? Okay? In the Western Transvaal. The pyrophilight is
Speaker 1: a soft secondary mineral and was formed by sediment about
Speaker 1: two point eight billion years ago. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: the globes, which have a fibers structure on the inside
Speaker 1: with a shell around it, are very hard and cannot
Speaker 1: be scratched even by steel, steel, even by steel. What
Speaker 1: about diamonds. I don't think anybody's tried that. South Africa's
Speaker 1: diamonds lying around everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. We got, we got.
Speaker 1: We got one more bit of awesomeness that you'll find
Speaker 1: on these on the web when you find this in
Speaker 1: its standard awesome telling. It also seems that the spheres
Speaker 1: are delicately balanced, meaning that even with modern technology g
Speaker 1: they would have to have been made in zero gravity,
Speaker 1: a perfectly balanced and according to the story, NASA got
Speaker 1: a hold of a couple of them, and they were
Speaker 1: confused when they examined them, and they couldn't explain how
Speaker 1: they remained. We're still in fantasyland, right, that's the end
Speaker 1: of fantasy land, Okay. I just like, oh, there are
Speaker 1: so many Okay, we're just gonna have to go through
Speaker 1: this because there are so many things. Oh yeah, no,
Speaker 1: this this this was why when I first read, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is really crazy, and then I
Speaker 1: started going way in a minute, there's some issues here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a lot of a lot of smack, just just
Speaker 1: crap has been put out. Yeah, so let's let's just
Speaker 1: kind of suss this down real fast with just some
Speaker 1: of the basics that we've got. These are really the
Speaker 1: things that I've sussed out that are kind of the
Speaker 1: the easy facts. We've got what people referred to as
Speaker 1: possibly an out of place artifact. They so there's weird.
Speaker 1: They're round rocks, they have grooves around their equator, and
Speaker 1: they're inner material in the earth that doesn't match them,
Speaker 1: and they don't really seem like they should be there.
Speaker 1: They're kind of cool looking based on the images that
Speaker 1: you see on the internet, and I would say it's
Speaker 1: about the size of a golf ball, not an inch
Speaker 1: would they be about? You know? Actually they from whatever.
Speaker 1: They vary from about half a centimeter to like ten centimeters,
Speaker 1: which is about four inches. Those are the largest ones
Speaker 1: that Okay, I've seen, I've seen the variants, but I
Speaker 1: can I don't work with centimeters, so I'm always confused
Speaker 1: when it comes to putting that in relation to something
Speaker 1: in real world, which is what is that around the
Speaker 1: golf ball? And I didn't the down and dirty thing,
Speaker 1: which is a centimeter is pretty close to half an inch,
Speaker 1: close enough for government work anyway. Centimeters equals five inches.
Speaker 1: Knock off a little bit because the centimeter is actually
Speaker 1: a little shorter than a half an inch. So we're
Speaker 1: looking at the softball. Yeah, very few, I think, I think,
Speaker 1: I think I tend to be kind of more towards
Speaker 1: the small end of the range. Well, the one that
Speaker 1: they show on the internet all the time is about
Speaker 1: the size of a golf ball, and it's got this
Speaker 1: really weird dived in the front of it, which along
Speaker 1: with the fact that it's got grooves around the outside,
Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy for um and they all say it
Speaker 1: looks like the Death Star. Well, it kind of does that.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the best facts that we've got about
Speaker 1: these things. It could have been an alien blueprint for
Speaker 1: the best star blueprinting technology. They did a three D
Speaker 1: print of it, and then they dropped it and it
Speaker 1: fell to Earth. Yeah I got it. Yeah, Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: the Rebel Alliance actually stole the blueprints and then they
Speaker 1: dropped it on Earth because that nobody would ever find
Speaker 1: it on Earth, I guess. I mean, I think it
Speaker 1: is fair to say it does kind of look that
Speaker 1: way though. I mean, the one, the one that you
Speaker 1: see all the time kind of dus kind look up
Speaker 1: the Death Star actually had one group around the middle.
Speaker 1: This one has three. Yeah, no, the one that's got
Speaker 1: the hole in it, it just has the one. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're right, it does have the single group. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: you're right. It is the same grew. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. We're gonna have to I mean, of course,
Speaker 1: that's probably the one that we put up a website.
Speaker 1: What they need to do is they need to scientists
Speaker 1: need to, like, you know, get a basketball and sort
Speaker 1: of put that thing in orbit on the basketball and
Speaker 1: see if some rays come out of it and destroy
Speaker 1: the basketball. And before we forget I know, we left
Speaker 1: Fantasy Land already, but Joe and I were chatting about
Speaker 1: this earlier, and I had forgotten about this piece of
Speaker 1: the story until he brought it up. Was about the
Speaker 1: fact that these things rotated. Yeah, that's there, according to supposedly,
Speaker 1: according to I shouldn't say, according to the Rolf Marks,
Speaker 1: the former curator at the Clerk Store museum. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: He was quoted as saying that they were they were
Speaker 1: stored in vibration free cases, and yet they turned around
Speaker 1: on their axes all on their own. Yeah, And we'll
Speaker 1: debunk that in a minute. But one of the interesting
Speaker 1: things is, like I was just looking at pictures because
Speaker 1: I'm really good at focusing on what we're doing here,
Speaker 1: and it's like, there's this outer a cross and then
Speaker 1: the inner layer. Right, most of them have that in
Speaker 1: ther layer, and you cut it in half and there's
Speaker 1: it's distinct, right, And I think that that's a thing
Speaker 1: that you see a lot in weird things that might
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they don't rotate on their own, but
Speaker 1: might I would be more prone to rotating. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was a misinterpretation of like, oh, if you spin it,
Speaker 1: it rotates really well or something. I'll tell you what, Joe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead and spill the beans on what happens and
Speaker 1: why these things rotated. Yeah. Yeah. So this this, this
Speaker 1: of course made its way, you know, twenty times around
Speaker 1: the world before someone to actually contact this guy, and
Speaker 1: that's Rolf Marks, former curator at the Clear Store for museum. Somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody contacted him and asked him about this, and he
Speaker 1: said that no, what he what he had told people
Speaker 1: is that they were sitting in cases, and because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of mining operations nearby, there's explosions going off
Speaker 1: in the earth, and there's vibrations all the time and
Speaker 1: tremors in the earth, and these things were not in
Speaker 1: vibration free cases. They were in cases that were vibrating
Speaker 1: because because of all the mining going on around and
Speaker 1: so naturally they were moving around a little bit on
Speaker 1: their own. And and that's really that's really really creepy,
Speaker 1: although maybe not so much, I mean, because you know,
Speaker 1: and then the story got spun around, so now they're
Speaker 1: vibration free case. Let's put some more credit where credit
Speaker 1: is due. This guy he's in charge of or he's
Speaker 1: credited with perpetuating a lot of these crazy things. But
Speaker 1: as soon as somebody contacts him, he's like, that's not
Speaker 1: what I said at all. You guys are idiot. Well,
Speaker 1: and here's here's the great thing. That's that's a perfect
Speaker 1: place to start. So let's go ahead and let's talk
Speaker 1: about some of this story and where it came from
Speaker 1: originally and how it got so fantastical so fast. The
Speaker 1: for the first time the story came out was Joe
Speaker 1: apparently uh seven and nine and October two, n nine
Speaker 1: issue with the National Enquirer, And then so you've got
Speaker 1: the night National Enquirer. And then the same article or
Speaker 1: somewhat modified article was published in the Juno eleventh n
Speaker 1: issue of Scope magazine. Yeah, and and just so, I mean,
Speaker 1: just so everybody understands, Scope is a tabloid. Scope is
Speaker 1: the National Enquirer of South Africa Africa country. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was known for inflating its stories just to make giant headlines,
Speaker 1: just to sell the paper, Comic CBS or the Weekly
Speaker 1: World which coincidentally, The Weekly World News published this story
Speaker 1: several years after the fact. You didn't know they recycled
Speaker 1: stories endlessly. Didn't really get that. I thought bat Boy
Speaker 1: was just always up to funny hijinks, which okay, So
Speaker 1: now we can see really easily how this thing got
Speaker 1: so crazy so quickly, with so many made up claims,
Speaker 1: is the best way to say it. The thing that
Speaker 1: I said earlier about NASA having gotten ahold of some
Speaker 1: of these and being per perplexed and not knowing how
Speaker 1: they were made and why they were so perfectly balanced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that never happened. There's no record at NASA of anybody
Speaker 1: ever giving them one of these and examining it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that actually I might have an answer to
Speaker 1: that one. You maybe actually did. So. A guy named
Speaker 1: Paul Heinrich wrote an article in uh a publication called
Speaker 1: Reports of the National Center for Science Education. This article
Speaker 1: is called the Mysterious Spheres of Auto Stall, South Africa.
Speaker 1: It was published in two thousand and eight UM and
Speaker 1: he was the one that came up with that thing earlier.
Speaker 1: He was the one that he actually found the first
Speaker 1: publication of this in the National Inquirer. So this guy
Speaker 1: actually did did all of our homework for us. So thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks Paul Heinrich. We really, we really really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Uh So he said, this is probably where the NASA
Speaker 1: thing came from. So for a brief time, the clerk
Speaker 1: Starff the clerks Dorp Museum web page had the text
Speaker 1: of a letter from a guy named John Hunt of Pietersburg,
Speaker 1: South Africa, UM and this letter claimed that the results
Speaker 1: of the an examination of one of the objects by
Speaker 1: the California Space Institute, which is research unity of the
Speaker 1: University of California found all sorts of fantastic things. They
Speaker 1: said that the its balance is so fine, exceed the
Speaker 1: limit of their measuring technology, and was with win within
Speaker 1: one hundred thousands of an inch from absolute perfection. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this this letter also said that the California Space Institute,
Speaker 1: where these scientists supposedly were, is the organization that made
Speaker 1: gyroscopes for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or NASA,
Speaker 1: So that may be where that sort of entered into
Speaker 1: was that letter was supposedly sent. I'm not sure and
Speaker 1: it was sent. The date when it was spotted on
Speaker 1: the museum's website was two thousand two, but it could
Speaker 1: have been. I guess it was probably up there for
Speaker 1: a while. The story so so firmly. Yeah, So that's yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, and and actually it turns out this same
Speaker 1: guy behind ranked, the guy to whom we owe so
Speaker 1: much because he did all of our legwork for us,
Speaker 1: actually contacted a scientist at the California Space Institute who
Speaker 1: said that he did remember examining one of the objects,
Speaker 1: and that he had actually gotten HI from this guy
Speaker 1: named Hunt. But and he said that nobody there ever
Speaker 1: told Hunt that these things had the extraordinary properties that
Speaker 1: he claimed they did in this letter of course. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He and he suggested that there was quote some error
Speaker 1: and transmission on quote, which is a plight with saying
Speaker 1: somebody's full of it. And he also said that the
Speaker 1: claim that the California Space To makes gyroscopes for NASA
Speaker 1: is completely untrue. That's true. So that's that's true even. Yes,
Speaker 1: so this thing this see is kind of unraveling for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what, there's there's two other things that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna point out real fast, and then we'll get
Speaker 1: into some theory stuff as to what are there where
Speaker 1: they came from. There was at one point in the
Speaker 1: story there was a comment that said they were so
Speaker 1: hard they couldn't be scratched by steel. What does that
Speaker 1: even mean? That's the problem because there's a bazillion grades
Speaker 1: of steel. We just talked about this in the Uffbert. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's just the worst and there's super solid pure steel,
Speaker 1: so that that just saying it can't be scratched by
Speaker 1: steel doesn't say anything. That's that's not a measurement that
Speaker 1: you can put out there and have any credibility. Yeah. No, Um,
Speaker 1: the guy I'm going to beat this Paul Heinrich thing
Speaker 1: to death. Here. He actually, as I said, was he's
Speaker 1: actually given several of these objects, and he actually sought
Speaker 1: a couple of them and a half. So it's harder
Speaker 1: than steel? How do you do that? He said that
Speaker 1: he examined them and they had there's a thing called
Speaker 1: the most scales m hardness hardness, and you found out
Speaker 1: of them to be harder than four to five on
Speaker 1: the most scale. And he said that a rating of
Speaker 1: seven to eight is more typical steel of hardened steel.
Speaker 1: So they're not harder than the steel. Yeah, here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. They're called spheres, but they're not round. They're
Speaker 1: not perfectly round. They're actually most of them are. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're not like a golf ball perfectly round. They're more
Speaker 1: like a squished golf ball. They're kind of wide in
Speaker 1: the middle and then they taper up and down so
Speaker 1: there they look like something that's been there, more like
Speaker 1: a disc shape. Yeah, some of them are. Some of
Speaker 1: them are pretty symmetrical. There are some that are very
Speaker 1: symmetrical now there, but some of them are not. You know,
Speaker 1: in a lot of times they're found clumped together. The
Speaker 1: word the way I saw it explained that made a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. Is like soap bubbles. You know, when
Speaker 1: you're a kid, you blow soap bubbles in the air,
Speaker 1: and then a bunch of them joined together, and they
Speaker 1: are they actually clumped together like that. They're stuck together
Speaker 1: like that, which interesting is a little weird. You don't
Speaker 1: see any pictures of them like that. You do see
Speaker 1: some when you start looking around, and here's the here's
Speaker 1: the one. The one thing I'm going to point out
Speaker 1: is you know that awesome picture that makes it looks
Speaker 1: like the Death Star. Yeah, that photo is stretched to
Speaker 1: make it round. It's that one's actually evidently a little flat,
Speaker 1: and that photo has been drug so that a little upward,
Speaker 1: a little downward so that it looks a little a
Speaker 1: little more perfect. So there's not I don't I looked
Speaker 1: at numerous pictures of these things. I haven't seen one
Speaker 1: that was actually spherical. I haven't seen one that was
Speaker 1: perfectly round. I mean, there's something that are pretty close,
Speaker 1: and some of them are pretty symmetrical like but that's
Speaker 1: that's about where it ends. So let's get into some
Speaker 1: theories about these things, because they're still weird. They still
Speaker 1: don't make any sense. It's very odd. Uh. And we're
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and we're just gonna go straight to
Speaker 1: what standard science says. We're irrationals. We're gonna go rational, irrational,
Speaker 1: irrational rationals. Yes, we're switching it up today, Haliburton and
Speaker 1: Big Tobacco, wat us all the things. Uh. So the
Speaker 1: first thing is modern science says that their natural formations.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. It does. And I had to I
Speaker 1: really had to kind of read through this to to
Speaker 1: figure out how this would happen and how this works.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna walk through this and we'll
Speaker 1: just we'll do what we can to make this as
Speaker 1: understandable as possible. According to uh and you were quoting him,
Speaker 1: Paul Heinrich, this fears are actually what are called concretions.
Speaker 1: They're not made out of metal, as Joe was saying,
Speaker 1: So that's a big issue. They there's spheres made out
Speaker 1: of hematite, which is an iron ore mineral, and that
Speaker 1: they're volcanic concretions. So here's how this works. To to
Speaker 1: just kind of break it down into the simplest way.
Speaker 1: Because they're in the pirrify light, which is soft, but
Speaker 1: it's not it's not continuous all the way down. In
Speaker 1: other words, there's pockets in there. There's voids in the material,
Speaker 1: and sentiments come down in water and they percollect down
Speaker 1: through that material and when they hit that void, evidently,
Speaker 1: according to how a concretion works, is that the metals
Speaker 1: that's in the water is separated and then it begins
Speaker 1: to build up and it fills in that void. So
Speaker 1: basically it fills a hole. That makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense to me that, like the water would just settle
Speaker 1: in these pockets, right, and then it would get warmer,
Speaker 1: so the water, the actual water would evaporate, but the
Speaker 1: minerals that were in the water would stay, and then
Speaker 1: it would happen doesn't evaporate, say, but it's for whatever reason, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it would keep the mineral deposits would keep happening there.
Speaker 1: And the picture that I kind of think is like
Speaker 1: a water filter right through charcoal, is it's the same
Speaker 1: kind of variance of material. So the charcoal or the
Speaker 1: piratefy life, yeah, is filtering out stuff and it's getting
Speaker 1: stuck in these pockets. And the reason that there are
Speaker 1: the rings around the spears is because that just happens
Speaker 1: to be that there was a ring in the pocket
Speaker 1: where they were formed. That's the only explanation corting science
Speaker 1: is that it just happens to be at that midway point,
Speaker 1: or it's somewhere in there. There was some kind of
Speaker 1: groove that they grew into, because as they've build up,
Speaker 1: they're going to fill in that pocket. I guess to
Speaker 1: play aliens advocate, right, it's advocated right. I mean, but
Speaker 1: there are a lot of these spheres, right, and a
Speaker 1: lot of them have these kind of that just seems
Speaker 1: like a big coincidence to have happened that many times
Speaker 1: in that kind of perfect way. Just draw that out there,
Speaker 1: with that many of the spheres to have that many
Speaker 1: rings that perfectly. The only thing, the only thing that
Speaker 1: I could think of that maybe could have explained it is,
Speaker 1: let's say that there's this void in the concretion is
Speaker 1: developing in there, and it gets about halfway and then
Speaker 1: the earth settles a little bit, and so the material
Speaker 1: around it is going to try and fill in that void,
Speaker 1: but it can't do it now because it's partially occupied
Speaker 1: by this mineral deposit. Does that make sense, I guess,
Speaker 1: But I feel like it would have filled the whole
Speaker 1: thing until you'd get these like semicircles. That might be
Speaker 1: why they're they're flattening thing. But then they but they
Speaker 1: still have the rings they do. But here's I'm just
Speaker 1: bring and I appreciate that. But here's the funny thing.
Speaker 1: These are not the only kind of spears that are found,
Speaker 1: not like clerk starts the only place that we find these.
Speaker 1: Now they are fine. Just just just a quick aside
Speaker 1: though from my longer article by Paul Heinrich. Apparently the
Speaker 1: way I understand it from reading his explanation is that
Speaker 1: they don't they don't fill in hollow spots and the sediments,
Speaker 1: but instead they just sort of they seep through and
Speaker 1: they start to build up within the sediment itself. So
Speaker 1: they're reacting with the material of the sediment. So it's
Speaker 1: like gaming together. Yeah, And so the um the rings
Speaker 1: are because the sediment basically is in layers, and so
Speaker 1: there's some of the some some fine layers of those
Speaker 1: are are just some layers are finer and more dense
Speaker 1: than other layers above and below them, and so the
Speaker 1: concretion occurs more slowly in that particular little piece of layer,
Speaker 1: and so that's why it doesn't grow outward as much,
Speaker 1: and so you get you get a little indentation or
Speaker 1: a ring in the object, and then it goes up
Speaker 1: a little bit and it's back to the less finally
Speaker 1: grained sentiment and it grows out to the original diameter.
Speaker 1: And so that's that is how the rings are formed.
Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, that's interesting. It's just so interesting that
Speaker 1: it would be a sphere then, right, or like close
Speaker 1: to a sphere, you know that it would just be
Speaker 1: like that little bit in the middle and then oh,
Speaker 1: it's perfectly compact or whatever. But that doesn't but that
Speaker 1: does also explain the ones that have multiple grooves around them,
Speaker 1: if it's if it's different densities. I guess it's the
Speaker 1: right word to use of the sediment. But why is
Speaker 1: it spearce? Right, Yeah, I don't understand it enough, but
Speaker 1: I do know that concretions happen. Yeah, totally. The geologist
Speaker 1: this kind of thing is very common. As you were
Speaker 1: about to say, they have occurred are in many other
Speaker 1: places around the world. Right, So we've got the Molky marbles,
Speaker 1: which you're from southwest Utah and they're about the same size. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of places on the East Coast of
Speaker 1: the US that have very perfectly round is looking sphere
Speaker 1: rocks that are totally normal. Australia, there's the hammers lea group.
Speaker 1: That's another one, and I've seen some of these and
Speaker 1: some of these rocks, I mean they they're rocks and
Speaker 1: they're perfectly round, and they're like the size of a cannonballer.
Speaker 1: More well, they're the ones in I guess South Africa,
Speaker 1: which or no South America, which I assume will. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll do a show on at some point
Speaker 1: that are giant, right, that are like eight or nine
Speaker 1: ft tall. I'm not familiar with those ones. Well we'll
Speaker 1: talk about they're giant and they are like spheres as well.
Speaker 1: I think those I suspect those are from something else,
Speaker 1: but they also I guess could maybe potentially fall into
Speaker 1: this category. And well you know what those are from
Speaker 1: is do you remember the first Indiana Jones movie. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: those and that giant ball at the beginning that was
Speaker 1: rolling down trying to attempting to crush him as he
Speaker 1: invaded that temple to plunder. It's it's right, right, right, Well,
Speaker 1: those came, it's theorized from a single manufacturers. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again, I mean I'll probably do a show about
Speaker 1: this at some point. But the like indigenous theories that
Speaker 1: it was giants, it was the marbles of giants. Awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so all that out there. Yeah. The next theory that
Speaker 1: we have, which is still within the realm of plausible
Speaker 1: is meteorites. Okay, I can't Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we know meteors hit our planet all the time, and
Speaker 1: a couple of billion years ago there was probably a
Speaker 1: bunch more hitting the planet than there are now because
Speaker 1: things were different back then. I don't think we had
Speaker 1: as as strong as an atmosphere. That could be completely
Speaker 1: a bad scientific statement to make, but no, I think
Speaker 1: the I think that the Solar system was in more
Speaker 1: the states of Upheople. Yes, that's a good way to
Speaker 1: put it. There's also a lot of reports of meteors
Speaker 1: being discovered in Africa. It's a huge continent, so that
Speaker 1: doesn't there Uh well, yeah, they find them and they
Speaker 1: find them all over Africa all the time. And if
Speaker 1: you follow the Pangaea, is that the theory that we
Speaker 1: started out as one continent, and the big chunk of
Speaker 1: it was we all broke off from Africa, So Africa
Speaker 1: was kind of the center of it. So also Africa
Speaker 1: one of the least developed countries right or continents. It's
Speaker 1: not even one country, right, there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: industrial not like digging stuff up and paving over stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's very true. Last year in North Africa
Speaker 1: they found a meteorite that was actually part of Mars. Rightly,
Speaker 1: according to this report that I came across this, it
Speaker 1: was a it was a chunk of Mars. They've been
Speaker 1: scraped off. And yeah, I mean that that kind of
Speaker 1: thing has been documented. They I mean, you know, at
Speaker 1: times Mars and the Earth and the Moon have been
Speaker 1: hit with really gigantic objects, some of those creators on
Speaker 1: the moon. The moon is a product, right of us
Speaker 1: getting hit by something. Really, That's that's one theory, although
Speaker 1: there's other theories, and I don't know that that one's
Speaker 1: really prevalent theory anymore. Next week on thinking we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that, we'll solve that. The moon, well, yeah, he
Speaker 1: gets smacked with something, something really enormous material fly so
Speaker 1: but it's completely plausible that it could have been meteorites
Speaker 1: and and you know they bury themselves in the ground
Speaker 1: and then sediment continues to build up on top of them.
Speaker 1: We could have had, you know, bunches and bunches of
Speaker 1: meteor storms that we're hitting this one area and dropping
Speaker 1: these stones, and what we what he hits at the
Speaker 1: end is what's left of a larger object and it's
Speaker 1: been eroded in a very very interesting manner usually right,
Speaker 1: So that would explain the spherical nature that could possibly
Speaker 1: explain it. Yep, that is very true. So if they
Speaker 1: are meteorites, then that would also explain why they're not
Speaker 1: the same as the sediment that they're found in. True,
Speaker 1: because they're a little different. And this, uh, this kind
Speaker 1: of object has been spotted in other places, namely Mars. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew that would take a second to sink in. Uh.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and twelve, the Mars are Over Curiosity
Speaker 1: sent back images of spheres that were embedded in an
Speaker 1: outcrop of on Mars. Of and they call the place
Speaker 1: what did they call it Kirkwood? Which is it's in
Speaker 1: the western rim of the Endeavor Crater. So how do
Speaker 1: they know that this place is called Kirkwood? Is there
Speaker 1: a sign? Anyway? They found Mars and they took images
Speaker 1: of a bunch of what could be concretions like this
Speaker 1: set into the surface and it's they're about the same size.
Speaker 1: So it could be that they are the ones that
Speaker 1: are on Mars are a product of the natural process
Speaker 1: according to modern science say, or it could have been
Speaker 1: other meteors that were buried and then slowly excavated by
Speaker 1: winds and whatnot. That's crazy. I was just again just
Speaker 1: looking at pictures and they like that. They do. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's what the weird thing is. I think they nicknamed him.
Speaker 1: There's there's more than one kind that they've found, and
Speaker 1: I remember one of them was called they called the blueberries.
Speaker 1: They look this is girls, they look like boils, but
Speaker 1: the ladies and gentlemen. You now have a visual. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so they were formed on Mars and then Mars gets
Speaker 1: hit with a really massive rock on their center over
Speaker 1: to Earth or vice versa. They're formed on Earth and
Speaker 1: then they get cent over to Mars. Yeah, either way, so,
Speaker 1: but it looks like they're happening on another planet. So
Speaker 1: it's either one of these two theories could apply to
Speaker 1: both plants. One of these things is not like the other,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like the other though. Our next theory.
Speaker 1: What's that It's Devin's favorite aliens, aliens. Okay, Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go. Okay, so there's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: use the clerk Storp spears as proof that there was
Speaker 1: a civilization on our planet before us. Okay, wait, I'm
Speaker 1: going to take offense to the term aliens in this context.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say this is a prehistoric intelligent race
Speaker 1: because they are not aliens, because they existed on our
Speaker 1: planet as predecessors to our race. I just I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like aliens implies people from intelligent beings frama
Speaker 1: different planet coming to Earth and not settling here, not
Speaker 1: becoming Earth beings, not becoming Earthlings. Okay, right, people who
Speaker 1: are not native to Earth, or people who do a
Speaker 1: prior civilization of beings. You're welcome. Okay, that is much better. Okay.
Speaker 1: But but but I mean you would like this distinction
Speaker 1: because you think that they might have been some race
Speaker 1: that evolved naturally here on the planet or lived here, right.
Speaker 1: I mean that the implication of this theory that they
Speaker 1: aided here, saying that they were on this planet for
Speaker 1: some duration of time. Yeah, I would say that those
Speaker 1: are like prior native earthlings Okay, natives that doubt that
Speaker 1: they originated that far, because when did life actually originate
Speaker 1: on Earth? Well, that's that's what we've got because according
Speaker 1: to the according to the established age of these fears,
Speaker 1: they're Precambrian. At that time, the only record of life
Speaker 1: that we can determine was on this planet was algae. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly just microbes and things like that. Right. So,
Speaker 1: but this theory, if I'm understanding it correctly, is that
Speaker 1: that there were sentient beings, intelligent beings that we're creating
Speaker 1: these things that existed on Earth at that time. Right,
Speaker 1: That's how this theory goes, right, Yes, yeah, which is no,
Speaker 1: I don't find that credible, are you kidding me? Would
Speaker 1: be dead body somewhere like we got on a fossil
Speaker 1: of some kind. They were like boneless algae creatures, which tb. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can just see algae producing one of these things
Speaker 1: that what's that? What's that one critter that's always on Futurama,
Speaker 1: the green globe? No, no, no, the green glob that
Speaker 1: eats you and everybody can see you floating around in
Speaker 1: his guts because he's a green blob. They were boneless.
Speaker 1: It was just all it was was like what phytoplasm? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so like I'm willing to accept maybe
Speaker 1: if we're saying that beating that we've beaten that to death.
Speaker 1: Here's Here's where then the spheres come in is then
Speaker 1: people come up with all kinds of explanations of what
Speaker 1: that civilization would have used them for. If we just
Speaker 1: run with the theory that there was some sentient being
Speaker 1: on this planet, Atlantis could have been Atlantis, but we
Speaker 1: don't know. But we're just running with there's some kind
Speaker 1: of civilization than what were the spheres used for? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were used for a lot of things, according to
Speaker 1: the theories. They were currency, they were ammunition, maybe they
Speaker 1: were talisman's, they were a form of art. Maybe they
Speaker 1: were a form of a record keeping device. Definitely not
Speaker 1: well listen, listen, Okay, too giant to be currency, right, Like,
Speaker 1: who wants to carry that around? Really? I mean truly,
Speaker 1: even if you're a giant, you don't really want to
Speaker 1: carry that around. Okay, art? Maybe probably form of ammunition.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's about the right. Wouldn't we be finding little
Speaker 1: cannons that would have been shot out of the probably
Speaker 1: the Alismans who wants to wear something that big? People
Speaker 1: do it all the time. Listen, I've seen some of
Speaker 1: the weird jewelry that you've worn before. It's big strand though, right,
Speaker 1: Like you don't wear one pendant. People do sometimes, but
Speaker 1: then you would find other things and there would be
Speaker 1: holes in it. Throw that out there, and then I
Speaker 1: just think, well, the thing about it is too, is
Speaker 1: that again, if they're like say talisman's or some form
Speaker 1: of currency whatever, then that would apply. That would apply
Speaker 1: a fairly primitive culture. And again, it's not possible for
Speaker 1: there there to have been any sort of primitive culture
Speaker 1: on this planet at that time, at that point in time,
Speaker 1: because because the culture that's something only culture that could
Speaker 1: have been here was a sophisticated alien culture that came
Speaker 1: and hung out for a while, a little while, a
Speaker 1: long time. I think that's true. I know, and I'm
Speaker 1: with Joe on this one. Is that like, if this
Speaker 1: is something from a leftover from a culture that is
Speaker 1: a culture sophisticated enough to have exited the Earth before
Speaker 1: any of them died right or left any record that
Speaker 1: we can currently recognize as living beings dying, that's a
Speaker 1: hugely sophisticated culture. They know how to work metal. They're
Speaker 1: not carrying around metal balls. Yeah and yeah, why would
Speaker 1: they and why would they make these stupid little things
Speaker 1: when they cool stuff like iPads fossilized remain So it
Speaker 1: turns out I'm with Joe. Yeah, that's unusual. It's super unusual. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad we've got that one settled. Cool. Now
Speaker 1: we get to have even more fun because we're going
Speaker 1: to the outer edge theory. There's more, there is one more, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Uh, this is very far flung
Speaker 1: and the links of piece A two piece B are
Speaker 1: kind of tenuous. But we're just going to take these
Speaker 1: leaps of faith this alright. So to start off with,
Speaker 1: we need to get off the planet Earth. Oh where
Speaker 1: are we going? We're going to go to Saturn. Were
Speaker 1: going to get there? What snap of my fingers were there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just that good. Well, there is a moon around
Speaker 1: Saturn that it's the eighth moon of Saturn called Yapatis.
Speaker 1: Saturn is hoarding moons. It got more than their fair
Speaker 1: shared out there. They have way many more more than
Speaker 1: they need. Yeah. Yeah, Occupy Saturnpaturn hashtag occupies satura. There
Speaker 1: we go. The first thing we need to look at
Speaker 1: when we get to this moon is sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: what did you say? It was called again? I wasn't.
Speaker 1: The first thing that we want to look at when
Speaker 1: we look at this moon is the equatorial ridge that's
Speaker 1: running around the moon. It's it's got a big old
Speaker 1: ridge going about around its circumference all the way around.
Speaker 1: That ridge is about twelve and a half miles high
Speaker 1: at its peak, it's a hundred and twenty four miles
Speaker 1: across at its whitest dge. It is one heck of
Speaker 1: a ridge. Uh. And the other thing, so it's weird
Speaker 1: because it's got this ridge, which is kind of like
Speaker 1: the spheres. They have a ridge though it's it's not
Speaker 1: yeah they have they have an any it's got an auty.
Speaker 1: But the next thing we want to look at is that.
Speaker 1: And this is based on photos of the moon, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how much validity I put in them,
Speaker 1: but according to the photos of the moon, if you
Speaker 1: look at it, it's got a rectlinear geometry. What are
Speaker 1: you talking about right now? Yeah, it's not spheral, but okay,
Speaker 1: so it's not a sphere. But what does that even
Speaker 1: shape mean that shape means that it is what they
Speaker 1: call in some of these articles and icosahedrad. What an icosahedra,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's kind of like it's a sided object.
Speaker 1: So it's got it's got polygons and hexagons making up inside. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you've played dungeons, right then you're quite familiar with that. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we almost succeeded. There we go. White people really do
Speaker 1: have more trouble doing the high fi. All right. So
Speaker 1: the it has, according to these observations, this odd structure
Speaker 1: to the to it, and that along with the fact
Speaker 1: that there is a huge depression on the surface of
Speaker 1: it that's in the shape of a hexagon on plus
Speaker 1: these this linear geometry along it's outside, so it's not round.
Speaker 1: It's like it's made by math. It's a mathematical shape.
Speaker 1: People say it's not really a planet. Well I think okay,
Speaker 1: and again aliens advocate here, right, But I feel like
Speaker 1: that is a good point. Things that are made by nature,
Speaker 1: by and large are spherical in some way. They may
Speaker 1: not be a perfect circle, they may be an oval.
Speaker 1: They're around, they have rounded shapes because that's what nature
Speaker 1: or the universe or the laws of physics due to
Speaker 1: things is they make things kind of a sphere because
Speaker 1: everything gets gloamed together in kind of a sphere, not
Speaker 1: with these like weird flat planes flat planes on them.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's a I mean again, that's
Speaker 1: not typical planet moon formation. Yeah, and it's it's okay,
Speaker 1: So maybe it's pictures. Maybe we're totally in I hear it.
Speaker 1: Maybe the pictures are like reflecting something weird or whatever.
Speaker 1: But that's weird. If it's true that that's how that
Speaker 1: moon is shaped, that's weird. It's a little odd. And
Speaker 1: I've been looking at these pictures again, like while we're
Speaker 1: doing this, and there are a lot of pictures of
Speaker 1: the spheres that have like weird kind of angular side
Speaker 1: a little bit to them. They're not actually nice and
Speaker 1: smooth and round. Yeah, but I've gotta say, I've looked
Speaker 1: at pictures of the oppotus and it doesn't look to
Speaker 1: me like a D twenty. It looks like it's pretty
Speaker 1: much spherical except for them. Yeah. It's it's in key
Speaker 1: photographs that people point out that hey, this isn't actually
Speaker 1: around object, and that's that's you're finding the photo that
Speaker 1: you're looking for is kind of what everybody else says, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for, And I wonder you're referencing
Speaker 1: that one. But I can see how you would say
Speaker 1: that because most of the things that you see it
Speaker 1: doesn't actually look like it's got flat edges to us.
Speaker 1: It looks kind of spherical to me, but with a weird,
Speaker 1: funny ridge around it, and I think it's personally. I
Speaker 1: think it's something to do with the ridge that makes
Speaker 1: it weird. But I don't know. Okay, well, let's just
Speaker 1: say that we're just gonna run with this that it's
Speaker 1: a D twenty is actually what this moon is. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: then what's that mean. If it's a D twenty and
Speaker 1: it's not naturally occurring, then that splits the debate in
Speaker 1: half as to what that means for Yapetus. Actually, it
Speaker 1: doesn't split into two, it's splits it into three. I
Speaker 1: apologize for that. Uh. Some people say that it was
Speaker 1: a death star type plant for some species that's no
Speaker 1: longer around. In other words, they were gonna use it
Speaker 1: to as a weapon of some sort and then either
Speaker 1: won the war, lost the war, were wiped out by
Speaker 1: the war. I don't know what but they're they're not
Speaker 1: around anymore, and so it drifted until it was finally
Speaker 1: caught by Saturday and now it's just in Saturday's orbit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what happened is they we're going to come
Speaker 1: to Earth and kick our asses, and they came down
Speaker 1: and we turned them onto things like pot and tobacco.
Speaker 1: And I don't think this beyond a death star. What
Speaker 1: else could it have been? Well, we have the theory
Speaker 1: that it is a world sized arc. I kind of
Speaker 1: like the theory, kind of like it too. This is
Speaker 1: saying that it was used by some other species to
Speaker 1: carry the seeds of life across the galaxy until it
Speaker 1: found the inappropriate planet, and then until it found a
Speaker 1: Goldilocks planet, found a Goldilocks planet, and then it sent
Speaker 1: down all the biological material that was needed and that
Speaker 1: was carried in the spheres. So the spheres hit, they
Speaker 1: release everything and then it's like, well, my job's done
Speaker 1: and it just hangs out And isn't it worth mentioning that?
Speaker 1: Like right like within in that entry of these rocks
Speaker 1: being dated, this is when we have an explosion of life.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, within a reason seventy years within within and
Speaker 1: two years but within, like on a global timeline, in
Speaker 1: a very small fragment of time, Suddenly around that that
Speaker 1: Precambrian area is where things're absolutely correct. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's something worth it. Yeah. The only problem I have
Speaker 1: with that there is that these things were containers of life,
Speaker 1: then shouldn't they be popped open? No? Because didn't we
Speaker 1: just talk about this. We talked about this in the
Speaker 1: Spanish flu episode. Is that true? And that like if
Speaker 1: it had a frozen shell of seeds around it, right,
Speaker 1: it was frozen and it entered the atmosphere and everything
Speaker 1: kind of melted and everything fell to the earth and
Speaker 1: then everything No, it could be No, I know where
Speaker 1: you're going here, And I remember part of that where
Speaker 1: part of it was pulled away and not all of
Speaker 1: it was burned up. And I think basically what it
Speaker 1: means is the sphere is kind of the rubbery, squishy
Speaker 1: inside part of your golf ball, and the outside of
Speaker 1: the golf ball is what carried all the seeds of life.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like the theory kind of
Speaker 1: a lot. I knew you like this, you did. I
Speaker 1: knew you would and again and you know to like
Speaker 1: not to go on a tirade here, But I'm kind
Speaker 1: of a little bit. Yeah, I just think that like
Speaker 1: it's a big mystery of our history of our planet
Speaker 1: that like there was nothing for a really long time
Speaker 1: and then suddenly there was kind of everything. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the major theory is that is that most of the
Speaker 1: water that we have and probably life also is brought
Speaker 1: by comets. Right, But so, like, what's so different between
Speaker 1: saying like it was comets and it was these tiny
Speaker 1: little spheres A sphere is honest. Yeah. The other thing
Speaker 1: that probably had with that is that they should be
Speaker 1: we should be ideum everywhere on the planet, but we
Speaker 1: are aren't. We We're finding similar rocks, similar rocks in
Speaker 1: other places, but but they're kind of concentrated places Like
Speaker 1: that doesn't really kill the theory entirely, but I would
Speaker 1: think that they would be found pretty much everywhere, and
Speaker 1: they're not found. Okay, Well, if I'm if I'm going
Speaker 1: to stand up and defend this, then you also have
Speaker 1: to remember that what happens when there's geologic upheaval and
Speaker 1: let's say they're all over and then volcanoes happen and things,
Speaker 1: you know, and flood flood so much, but plate tectonic
Speaker 1: so plates are getting eaten up and that material is
Speaker 1: getting pulled down and melted down. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of geological reasons why we might not find it everywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, I'm gonna offend it.
Speaker 1: I can. I can look at it from that perspective,
Speaker 1: and then we have just one more theory on Well,
Speaker 1: this is one more piece of if the Moon is
Speaker 1: not real or if it's not a natural formation, And
Speaker 1: this one's pretty awesome. It is a it's a renovated planet,
Speaker 1: and it was a hotel planet, and the hotel planet
Speaker 1: was drug to Saturn so that the residents are the
Speaker 1: people staying at that hotel planet could see the beautiful
Speaker 1: rings of Saturn. And then eventually the hotel went out
Speaker 1: of business and they just left it there there. So
Speaker 1: now no, But would you say it's a renovated planet,
Speaker 1: do you mean it's an artificial structure or it's just
Speaker 1: a planet that somebody drugged there. I'm not saying either,
Speaker 1: because I've seen both directions where some say they took
Speaker 1: this planet, they shaved it down, they made it into
Speaker 1: shape that they needed, and then they drug it there.
Speaker 1: And then I've seen some that say, oh no, it's
Speaker 1: it's completely a construct. My and and my big argument
Speaker 1: on that, right, even though I am the alien advocate, right,
Speaker 1: is that if there were that many species that intelligent
Speaker 1: to create something that came to our solar system, they
Speaker 1: would have visited us by now. They would have made
Speaker 1: their presence known to us by now because we have
Speaker 1: been no, we have been sending please out to the
Speaker 1: universe for so long in radio waves and other waves,
Speaker 1: right saying hey, we're intelligent, come pay attention to us.
Speaker 1: But if you went out of business before the you know,
Speaker 1: before we had algae on this planet and we're a backwater,
Speaker 1: this backwater solar system, and then it fails. There are
Speaker 1: urban explorers in on our planet. There's like so rampant
Speaker 1: that like people go to like Chernobyl for instance, just
Speaker 1: to like take pictures how awesome it is. I just
Speaker 1: find I would find it so hard to believe that,
Speaker 1: Like if there were this alien race and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: there's this derelict, you know, hotel that had this awesome
Speaker 1: view in this backwater place that like nobody really goes to,
Speaker 1: that nobody would be like, hey, let's go there and
Speaker 1: then be like, oh, weird, there's this radio they know
Speaker 1: coming from this that they might have just hung out
Speaker 1: there for a while. And then and then they when
Speaker 1: they detected signs of intelligent life on on on the
Speaker 1: planet Earth, they decided to vacate. Maybe. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just think that, you know,
Speaker 1: if there were alien species out there that had put
Speaker 1: a hotel that close to us that recently, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: how do you know as a hotel and not say
Speaker 1: like a brothel, big some big leaps of you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That having been said, that is the end of the
Speaker 1: theories as to why these fears are what they are.
Speaker 1: We've got natural formations. We've got that they were the
Speaker 1: remnants of some form of life on this planet before us.
Speaker 1: We've got the uh smoon of Saturn theory. There's there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going on here. Oh and meteorites.
Speaker 1: Can't forget about meteoritest not And I mean these are
Speaker 1: probably the top five. I found a lot of more
Speaker 1: sidebar threads that go into some theories as to what
Speaker 1: these are, but again, it just would take so long
Speaker 1: to just go through all of them. But that's about
Speaker 1: like alien pokemon pieces or something like that. I think
Speaker 1: that would be the remnants of a prior civilization. They
Speaker 1: were children's toys, they were happy meal toys. They were
Speaker 1: they were all dumped in one area. That's that's what
Speaker 1: it was. It was the Earth as the ocean of
Speaker 1: a different alien race just come here and dump their
Speaker 1: garbage off. So what do you what do you guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's your what's your preferred theory here on
Speaker 1: this one? Well, I can't really, I I can't choose
Speaker 1: one over the other. I mean, they're all equally believable.
Speaker 1: Not not really. I'll go with I'll go with the
Speaker 1: geologists who say that this is natural concretion formations. That
Speaker 1: seems pretty blatantly obvious. And Christ, you know, it might
Speaker 1: be that once again that you know, Haliburton, a big
Speaker 1: tobacco successfully pulled the wool over my eyes. But you
Speaker 1: but it seems like with the facts that our fingertips
Speaker 1: so far, and that looks like the most plausible theory
Speaker 1: because I feel obligated to provide. Yeah, I feel again,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want again once again, aliens advocate. I think
Speaker 1: it's the arc theory. I like that theory. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that you put it in there because you
Speaker 1: knew that I would like it. It's a fun theory,
Speaker 1: it's a good I like. I mean, you know, and
Speaker 1: again I think that like one of the big mysteries
Speaker 1: that we are always trying to solve as human beings
Speaker 1: is where did we come from? Right? Because I think
Speaker 1: there's this like innate feeling that like, well, we couldn't
Speaker 1: have been a product of billions of years of evolution
Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, of course, everybody says like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we were revolution It's fine, but there's always that feeling
Speaker 1: of like, but there must be something a little bit
Speaker 1: more right, like there's something like a little extra there
Speaker 1: about us. And I feel like this is a great
Speaker 1: kind of a little something extra about us. So we
Speaker 1: were so alien? Yeah, they dropped a bunch of microbes
Speaker 1: on the planet and next thing, you know, here's the thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're kind of like pot growers, you know, illegal pot
Speaker 1: growers that go to the national forest and drop a
Speaker 1: bunch of seeds. Maybe that thing, maybe that's why we
Speaker 1: haven't been visited. Well what I've been harvested yet they're
Speaker 1: going to come back for the harvest, I would say, everybody,
Speaker 1: all of our listeners by guns. What do you think, Steve, I,
Speaker 1: if I have to choose, I'm gonna go with natural formations,
Speaker 1: although I do I could also see meteorites being a
Speaker 1: plausible one, but after that it just it gets too
Speaker 1: far from me. Well, and again, you know, this is
Speaker 1: one of those quintessential like out of place artifacts, right,
Speaker 1: and that I could almost see natural formation, but for
Speaker 1: a few details. I could all will see this, but
Speaker 1: for a few details. So I think that's, you know,
Speaker 1: again one of the that's what makes it an unsolved mystery. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the difficulty with this. Yeah, well, but we're
Speaker 1: not about unsolved mysteries. We're about solving ulster wrong and
Speaker 1: not to anybody. Well, if you want to take a
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Speaker 1: that having been said is all that we've got on
Speaker 1: this one. So it's it's still rolling around. But I
Speaker 1: still don't have an answer to it. Now. I think
Speaker 1: we solved it, but I don't want to say if
Speaker 1: if you, if you are a clerk store, if you
Speaker 1: are a clerk storp sphere, please call practice. We want
Speaker 1: to hear your story. I guess that's the that's the thing,
Speaker 1: right is we didn't think about fossils. No, it could
Speaker 1: have been animal droppings. It was aliens. Okay, it could
Speaker 1: have been alien droppings. Right, it's time to go, guys.
Speaker 1: It was aliens. Bye bye, aliens.