WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Klerksdorp Spheres 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:17.279 Thinking sideways. I don't stories of things we simply don't 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:23.840 know the answer too. Well, Hey there on Steve next 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.000 to me is oh, Devin, you're pointing at me. So 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:28.400 I guess I say my name now, and I guess 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.880 I'm Joe. And what's to do to our show? And 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:37.839 put us in a room? And what do you get? Guys? 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:43.239 You're fired. You are not allowed to do anymore. I'm 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:47.000 kicking my ball and going home and sticking at balls. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.760 Oh nice, segway, sir, Well, gonna be one of those 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:59.200 shows anyway. Today's show is going to be about something 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.319 that's called the clerk Store Spears. I'm just gonna say 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.160 right off the bat for listeners, you don't know this, 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.440 but Joe and Devon obviously do. Is this is a 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.039 story that I found a long time ago, one of 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.559 the initial stories that I wanted to do for this show, 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.280 but I held off. This is your Tom and Shrewd 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.800 and to be Tiles. Yes, well, I held off just 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:21.959 because all the conjecture. It's so hard to to try 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:26.880 and burrow down to anything that could be factual. You know, actually, 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.200 if you, if you look hard enough, you can find 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.480 people that have actually seen these things with their own 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.120 eyes and examine them. We'll talk about that list, and 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.160 there is some of that out there. But this story 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.760 is pretty fantastical, and I'm just gonna go ahead and 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.640 tell it the way you normally read it on those 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.479 awesome pages on the web. Oh, are we talking about 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:50.200 the black background white scripts. Well, it's it's not even. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.240 There's other sites besides your favorite kind that do this. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.080 All right, what the obligatory flying saucer charity to the gods? Yes, yes, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.320 of course, So here we go. Over the last few decades, 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.360 miners in South Africa have been digging up mysterious metal 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:11.359 spheres while mining pyro philight pro fhilight. What is that? 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:16.320 It's basically chalk for like blackboards or tailors. It's really 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:20.840 soft chalk. The spheres measure approximately an inter or so 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:26.200 in diameter and summer etched with three parallel grooves running 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.480 around the equator, and some only have one. There are 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:33.040 two types of some of them any at all? Well, yeah, 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.720 there is there is that, but this is the this 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:43.280 is your fantastic Okay, they all have grooves. Okay. Two 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.120 types of spheres have been found. One is composed of 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.119 solid bluish metal with flux of white, and the other 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.720 is hollowed out and filled with a spongy white substance 0:02:53.800 --> 0:03:06.800 like the rock in which they're found is god. The 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:10.639 rocket which they are found is Precambrian. So according to that, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:15.560 it's dated to be two point eight million. That's billion 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.519 years old. If we were just talking about this, do 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.840 you keep giving me crap all the time about carbon 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.000 dating and how you can actually carbon date natural materials. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:28.359 With the rocks and stuff like, you can't tell how 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:30.800 old they are, so what what do you I'm in 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:37.720 the fantastical telling. So it's okay, okay, all right, okay, 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.000 I'll give it to you. All right. I just wanted 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:44.720 to be able to say, wait, I know, sir, I'm 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:49.240 not disagreeing with you. I understand. Okay. Can I continue on? Yes, okay, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.880 you may proceed. Thank you. We have a gentleman by 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.400 the name of Rolf Marks, who is the former curator 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.240 of the Clerk Store Museum. He is quoted as saying, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.520 there is nothing scientific published about the globes, but the 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.119 facts are they're found in pyro Philight, which is mined 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.240 near the little town of Auto Stall. Is that how 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:16.680 you said? Okay? In the Western Transvaal. The pyrophilight is 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.640 a soft secondary mineral and was formed by sediment about 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.320 two point eight billion years ago. On the other hand, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:28.039 the globes, which have a fibers structure on the inside 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.000 with a shell around it, are very hard and cannot 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.880 be scratched even by steel, steel, even by steel. What 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:40.760 about diamonds. I don't think anybody's tried that. South Africa's 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:46.080 diamonds lying around everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. We got, we got. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.359 We got one more bit of awesomeness that you'll find 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.200 on these on the web when you find this in 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.120 its standard awesome telling. It also seems that the spheres 0:04:54.240 --> 0:05:00.120 are delicately balanced, meaning that even with modern technology g 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:05.280 they would have to have been made in zero gravity, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:09.479 a perfectly balanced and according to the story, NASA got 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.640 a hold of a couple of them, and they were 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:15.160 confused when they examined them, and they couldn't explain how 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.600 they remained. We're still in fantasyland, right, that's the end 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.320 of fantasy land, Okay. I just like, oh, there are 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.320 so many Okay, we're just gonna have to go through 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.159 this because there are so many things. Oh yeah, no, 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.320 this this this was why when I first read, I 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:27.919 was like, oh, this is really crazy, and then I 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:32.239 started going way in a minute, there's some issues here, Yeah, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:37.440 as a lot of a lot of smack, just just 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.080 crap has been put out. Yeah, so let's let's just 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.560 kind of suss this down real fast with just some 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.919 of the basics that we've got. These are really the 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.000 things that I've sussed out that are kind of the 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:51.080 the easy facts. We've got what people referred to as 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:55.680 possibly an out of place artifact. They so there's weird. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:00.360 They're round rocks, they have grooves around their equator, and 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.800 they're inner material in the earth that doesn't match them, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.840 and they don't really seem like they should be there. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.159 They're kind of cool looking based on the images that 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.360 you see on the internet, and I would say it's 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.040 about the size of a golf ball, not an inch 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.799 would they be about? You know? Actually they from whatever. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:23.359 They vary from about half a centimeter to like ten centimeters, 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.520 which is about four inches. Those are the largest ones 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.080 that Okay, I've seen, I've seen the variants, but I 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.760 can I don't work with centimeters, so I'm always confused 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.359 when it comes to putting that in relation to something 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.279 in real world, which is what is that around the 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.600 golf ball? And I didn't the down and dirty thing, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.120 which is a centimeter is pretty close to half an inch, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:46.719 close enough for government work anyway. Centimeters equals five inches. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.119 Knock off a little bit because the centimeter is actually 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.840 a little shorter than a half an inch. So we're 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.720 looking at the softball. Yeah, very few, I think, I think, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:56.520 I think I tend to be kind of more towards 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.680 the small end of the range. Well, the one that 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.239 they show on the internet all the time is about 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.279 the size of a golf ball, and it's got this 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:08.160 really weird dived in the front of it, which along 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.480 with the fact that it's got grooves around the outside, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.680 everybody goes crazy for um and they all say it 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.680 looks like the Death Star. Well, it kind of does that. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.440 That's kind of the best facts that we've got about 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.600 these things. It could have been an alien blueprint for 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.880 the best star blueprinting technology. They did a three D 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:29.640 print of it, and then they dropped it and it 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.040 fell to Earth. Yeah I got it. Yeah, Okay, so yeah, 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.800 the Rebel Alliance actually stole the blueprints and then they 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.000 dropped it on Earth because that nobody would ever find 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.960 it on Earth, I guess. I mean, I think it 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.200 is fair to say it does kind of look that 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.360 way though. I mean, the one, the one that you 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.200 see all the time kind of dus kind look up 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.840 the Death Star actually had one group around the middle. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.120 This one has three. Yeah, no, the one that's got 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.000 the hole in it, it just has the one. Oh, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.960 you're right, it does have the single group. Yeah, that's 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:00.800 you're right. It is the same grew. Oh my god, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:09.160 it's so crazy. We're gonna have to I mean, of course, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.000 that's probably the one that we put up a website. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.640 What they need to do is they need to scientists 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.600 need to, like, you know, get a basketball and sort 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.400 of put that thing in orbit on the basketball and 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.360 see if some rays come out of it and destroy 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:25.520 the basketball. And before we forget I know, we left 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.200 Fantasy Land already, but Joe and I were chatting about 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.480 this earlier, and I had forgotten about this piece of 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.600 the story until he brought it up. Was about the 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:39.800 fact that these things rotated. Yeah, that's there, according to supposedly, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.560 according to I shouldn't say, according to the Rolf Marks, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.240 the former curator at the Clerk Store museum. Yeah, he was. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.000 He was quoted as saying that they were they were 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.880 stored in vibration free cases, and yet they turned around 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.560 on their axes all on their own. Yeah, And we'll 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.800 debunk that in a minute. But one of the interesting 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.079 things is, like I was just looking at pictures because 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.160 I'm really good at focusing on what we're doing here, 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.400 and it's like, there's this outer a cross and then 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.840 the inner layer. Right, most of them have that in 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.120 ther layer, and you cut it in half and there's 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:17.760 it's distinct, right, And I think that that's a thing 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.720 that you see a lot in weird things that might 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.320 I mean, obviously they don't rotate on their own, but 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.280 might I would be more prone to rotating. Maybe it 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.640 was a misinterpretation of like, oh, if you spin it, 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.959 it rotates really well or something. I'll tell you what, Joe, Yeah, 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.080 go ahead and spill the beans on what happens and 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:40.240 why these things rotated. Yeah. Yeah. So this this, this 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.600 of course made its way, you know, twenty times around 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:46.520 the world before someone to actually contact this guy, and 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:52.960 that's Rolf Marks, former curator at the Clear Store for museum. Somebody, 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.439 somebody contacted him and asked him about this, and he 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.480 said that no, what he what he had told people 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.760 is that they were sitting in cases, and because there's 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.760 a lot of mining operations nearby, there's explosions going off 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.080 in the earth, and there's vibrations all the time and 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:07.920 tremors in the earth, and these things were not in 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.599 vibration free cases. They were in cases that were vibrating 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.200 because because of all the mining going on around and 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.280 so naturally they were moving around a little bit on 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:19.240 their own. And and that's really that's really really creepy, 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.560 although maybe not so much, I mean, because you know, 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.640 and then the story got spun around, so now they're 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.280 vibration free case. Let's put some more credit where credit 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:33.000 is due. This guy he's in charge of or he's 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:36.720 credited with perpetuating a lot of these crazy things. But 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.199 as soon as somebody contacts him, he's like, that's not 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.360 what I said at all. You guys are idiot. Well, 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.440 and here's here's the great thing. That's that's a perfect 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.040 place to start. So let's go ahead and let's talk 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.120 about some of this story and where it came from 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.280 originally and how it got so fantastical so fast. The 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.840 for the first time the story came out was Joe 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:04.000 apparently uh seven and nine and October two, n nine 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.160 issue with the National Enquirer, And then so you've got 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.160 the night National Enquirer. And then the same article or 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.920 somewhat modified article was published in the Juno eleventh n 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.680 issue of Scope magazine. Yeah, and and just so, I mean, 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:22.199 just so everybody understands, Scope is a tabloid. Scope is 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:28.439 the National Enquirer of South Africa Africa country. Yeah, it 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:33.640 was known for inflating its stories just to make giant headlines, 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.440 just to sell the paper, Comic CBS or the Weekly 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:42.800 World which coincidentally, The Weekly World News published this story 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.160 several years after the fact. You didn't know they recycled 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.360 stories endlessly. Didn't really get that. I thought bat Boy 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.440 was just always up to funny hijinks, which okay, So 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.199 now we can see really easily how this thing got 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:03.280 so crazy so quickly, with so many made up claims, 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.480 is the best way to say it. The thing that 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.800 I said earlier about NASA having gotten ahold of some 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.439 of these and being per perplexed and not knowing how 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.480 they were made and why they were so perfectly balanced. Yeah, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.080 that never happened. There's no record at NASA of anybody 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.000 ever giving them one of these and examining it. Yeah, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.160 I think that actually I might have an answer to 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:34.040 that one. You maybe actually did. So. A guy named 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:38.520 Paul Heinrich wrote an article in uh a publication called 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.240 Reports of the National Center for Science Education. This article 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.840 is called the Mysterious Spheres of Auto Stall, South Africa. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.200 It was published in two thousand and eight UM and 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:50.920 he was the one that came up with that thing earlier. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.920 He was the one that he actually found the first 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:56.800 publication of this in the National Inquirer. So this guy 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.080 actually did did all of our homework for us. So thanks, 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.599 thanks Paul Heinrich. We really, we really really appreciate that. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.439 Uh So he said, this is probably where the NASA 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.040 thing came from. So for a brief time, the clerk 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:15.280 Starff the clerks Dorp Museum web page had the text 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.679 of a letter from a guy named John Hunt of Pietersburg, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:23.400 South Africa, UM and this letter claimed that the results 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.640 of the an examination of one of the objects by 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.400 the California Space Institute, which is research unity of the 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.839 University of California found all sorts of fantastic things. They 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.200 said that the its balance is so fine, exceed the 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.240 limit of their measuring technology, and was with win within 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:43.920 one hundred thousands of an inch from absolute perfection. Uh. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.640 And this this letter also said that the California Space Institute, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.080 where these scientists supposedly were, is the organization that made 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.440 gyroscopes for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or NASA, 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.199 So that may be where that sort of entered into 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.760 was that letter was supposedly sent. I'm not sure and 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.679 it was sent. The date when it was spotted on 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.760 the museum's website was two thousand two, but it could 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:12.320 have been. I guess it was probably up there for 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:19.960 a while. The story so so firmly. Yeah, So that's yeah. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.360 So anyway, and and actually it turns out this same 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.640 guy behind ranked, the guy to whom we owe so 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:26.760 much because he did all of our legwork for us, 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.560 actually contacted a scientist at the California Space Institute who 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.440 said that he did remember examining one of the objects, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.280 and that he had actually gotten HI from this guy 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:42.600 named Hunt. But and he said that nobody there ever 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.840 told Hunt that these things had the extraordinary properties that 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.320 he claimed they did in this letter of course. Yeah. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.960 He and he suggested that there was quote some error 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.120 and transmission on quote, which is a plight with saying 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.160 somebody's full of it. And he also said that the 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.000 claim that the California Space To makes gyroscopes for NASA 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:07.120 is completely untrue. That's true. So that's that's true even. Yes, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.840 so this thing this see is kind of unraveling for us. Yeah, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.680 and you know what, there's there's two other things that 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.000 I'm gonna point out real fast, and then we'll get 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.040 into some theory stuff as to what are there where 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.720 they came from. There was at one point in the 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.760 story there was a comment that said they were so 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.160 hard they couldn't be scratched by steel. What does that 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.840 even mean? That's the problem because there's a bazillion grades 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.440 of steel. We just talked about this in the Uffbert. Yes, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.760 that's just the worst and there's super solid pure steel, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.720 so that that just saying it can't be scratched by 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.760 steel doesn't say anything. That's that's not a measurement that 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.280 you can put out there and have any credibility. Yeah. No, Um, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.400 the guy I'm going to beat this Paul Heinrich thing 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.960 to death. Here. He actually, as I said, was he's 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.920 actually given several of these objects, and he actually sought 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.720 a couple of them and a half. So it's harder 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.480 than steel? How do you do that? He said that 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.360 he examined them and they had there's a thing called 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:12.640 the most scales m hardness hardness, and you found out 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.760 of them to be harder than four to five on 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.160 the most scale. And he said that a rating of 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.200 seven to eight is more typical steel of hardened steel. 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.560 So they're not harder than the steel. Yeah, here's the 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:30.880 other thing. They're called spheres, but they're not round. They're 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:34.960 not perfectly round. They're actually most of them are. Okay, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.640 they're not like a golf ball perfectly round. They're more 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.840 like a squished golf ball. They're kind of wide in 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.200 the middle and then they taper up and down so 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.920 there they look like something that's been there, more like 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.120 a disc shape. Yeah, some of them are. Some of 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.000 them are pretty symmetrical. There are some that are very 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.720 symmetrical now there, but some of them are not. You know, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:17:00.520 in a lot of times they're found clumped together. The 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.880 word the way I saw it explained that made a 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.679 lot of sense. Is like soap bubbles. You know, when 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.320 you're a kid, you blow soap bubbles in the air, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.000 and then a bunch of them joined together, and they 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.679 are they actually clumped together like that. They're stuck together 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.760 like that, which interesting is a little weird. You don't 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.600 see any pictures of them like that. You do see 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.920 some when you start looking around, and here's the here's 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.920 the one. The one thing I'm going to point out 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.160 is you know that awesome picture that makes it looks 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:30.720 like the Death Star. Yeah, that photo is stretched to 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:35.800 make it round. It's that one's actually evidently a little flat, 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:40.360 and that photo has been drug so that a little upward, 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.359 a little downward so that it looks a little a 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:47.080 little more perfect. So there's not I don't I looked 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.440 at numerous pictures of these things. I haven't seen one 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.440 that was actually spherical. I haven't seen one that was 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.679 perfectly round. I mean, there's something that are pretty close, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.360 and some of them are pretty symmetrical like but that's 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.280 that's about where it ends. So let's get into some 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.120 theories about these things, because they're still weird. They still 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.680 don't make any sense. It's very odd. Uh. And we're 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:11.119 gonna go ahead and we're just gonna go straight to 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:17.600 what standard science says. We're irrationals. We're gonna go rational, irrational, 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.680 irrational rationals. Yes, we're switching it up today, Haliburton and 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:28.240 Big Tobacco, wat us all the things. Uh. So the 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:32.000 first thing is modern science says that their natural formations. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.920 That makes sense. It does. And I had to I 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.000 really had to kind of read through this to to 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.399 figure out how this would happen and how this works. 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.960 So I'm gonna I'm gonna walk through this and we'll 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.919 just we'll do what we can to make this as 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:52.840 understandable as possible. According to uh and you were quoting him, 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:57.800 Paul Heinrich, this fears are actually what are called concretions. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.480 They're not made out of metal, as Joe was saying, 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:05.720 So that's a big issue. They there's spheres made out 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:11.000 of hematite, which is an iron ore mineral, and that 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.679 they're volcanic concretions. So here's how this works. To to 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:18.480 just kind of break it down into the simplest way. 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.239 Because they're in the pirrify light, which is soft, but 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.240 it's not it's not continuous all the way down. In 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.600 other words, there's pockets in there. There's voids in the material, 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:36.200 and sentiments come down in water and they percollect down 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:41.360 through that material and when they hit that void, evidently, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:46.320 according to how a concretion works, is that the metals 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.720 that's in the water is separated and then it begins 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.080 to build up and it fills in that void. So 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.399 basically it fills a hole. That makes a lot of 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.960 sense to me that, like the water would just settle 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.400 in these pockets, right, and then it would get warmer, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.480 so the water, the actual water would evaporate, but the 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.200 minerals that were in the water would stay, and then 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.760 it would happen doesn't evaporate, say, but it's for whatever reason, Yeah, 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.880 So it would keep the mineral deposits would keep happening there. 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:15.840 And the picture that I kind of think is like 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.920 a water filter right through charcoal, is it's the same 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.240 kind of variance of material. So the charcoal or the 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:28.040 piratefy life, yeah, is filtering out stuff and it's getting 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.760 stuck in these pockets. And the reason that there are 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:38.080 the rings around the spears is because that just happens 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.560 to be that there was a ring in the pocket 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:44.879 where they were formed. That's the only explanation corting science 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.040 is that it just happens to be at that midway point, 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.080 or it's somewhere in there. There was some kind of 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:55.320 groove that they grew into, because as they've build up, 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:57.320 they're going to fill in that pocket. I guess to 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:01.320 play aliens advocate, right, it's advocated right. I mean, but 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.000 there are a lot of these spheres, right, and a 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.600 lot of them have these kind of that just seems 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.800 like a big coincidence to have happened that many times 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.920 in that kind of perfect way. Just draw that out there, 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.919 with that many of the spheres to have that many 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:21.199 rings that perfectly. The only thing, the only thing that 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:24.480 I could think of that maybe could have explained it is, 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.639 let's say that there's this void in the concretion is 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:31.480 developing in there, and it gets about halfway and then 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.520 the earth settles a little bit, and so the material 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.800 around it is going to try and fill in that void, 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.680 but it can't do it now because it's partially occupied 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.960 by this mineral deposit. Does that make sense, I guess, 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:46.520 But I feel like it would have filled the whole 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.720 thing until you'd get these like semicircles. That might be 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.919 why they're they're flattening thing. But then they but they 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:55.720 still have the rings they do. But here's I'm just 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:59.640 bring and I appreciate that. But here's the funny thing. 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.480 These are not the only kind of spears that are found, 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.640 not like clerk starts the only place that we find these. 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.080 Now they are fine. Just just just a quick aside 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:14.560 though from my longer article by Paul Heinrich. Apparently the 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.760 way I understand it from reading his explanation is that 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.440 they don't they don't fill in hollow spots and the sediments, 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.720 but instead they just sort of they seep through and 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.280 they start to build up within the sediment itself. So 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.600 they're reacting with the material of the sediment. So it's 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:33.439 like gaming together. Yeah, And so the um the rings 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:37.320 are because the sediment basically is in layers, and so 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.439 there's some of the some some fine layers of those 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.000 are are just some layers are finer and more dense 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.280 than other layers above and below them, and so the 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:51.639 concretion occurs more slowly in that particular little piece of layer, 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.800 and so that's why it doesn't grow outward as much, 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.680 and so you get you get a little indentation or 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:00.760 a ring in the object, and then it goes up 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.119 a little bit and it's back to the less finally 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:07.440 grained sentiment and it grows out to the original diameter. 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:09.719 And so that's that is how the rings are formed. 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.080 I guess. Yeah, that's interesting. It's just so interesting that 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:15.280 it would be a sphere then, right, or like close 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.080 to a sphere, you know that it would just be 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.240 like that little bit in the middle and then oh, 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:25.119 it's perfectly compact or whatever. But that doesn't but that 0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:29.320 does also explain the ones that have multiple grooves around them, 0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:33.240