1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Thinking sideways. I don't stories of things we simply don't 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: know the answer too. Well, Hey there on Steve next 3 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: to me is oh, Devin, you're pointing at me. So 4 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: I guess I say my name now, and I guess 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm Joe. And what's to do to our show? And 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: put us in a room? And what do you get? Guys? 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: You're fired. You are not allowed to do anymore. I'm 8 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: kicking my ball and going home and sticking at balls. 9 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh nice, segway, sir, Well, gonna be one of those 10 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: shows anyway. Today's show is going to be about something 11 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: that's called the clerk Store Spears. I'm just gonna say 12 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: right off the bat for listeners, you don't know this, 13 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: but Joe and Devon obviously do. Is this is a 14 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: story that I found a long time ago, one of 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: the initial stories that I wanted to do for this show, 16 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: but I held off. This is your Tom and Shrewd 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: and to be Tiles. Yes, well, I held off just 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: because all the conjecture. It's so hard to to try 19 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: and burrow down to anything that could be factual. You know, actually, 20 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: if you, if you look hard enough, you can find 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: people that have actually seen these things with their own 22 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: eyes and examine them. We'll talk about that list, and 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: there is some of that out there. But this story 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: is pretty fantastical, and I'm just gonna go ahead and 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: tell it the way you normally read it on those 26 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: awesome pages on the web. Oh, are we talking about 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the black background white scripts. Well, it's it's not even. 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: There's other sites besides your favorite kind that do this. 29 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: All right, what the obligatory flying saucer charity to the gods? Yes, yes, 30 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: of course, So here we go. Over the last few decades, 31 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: miners in South Africa have been digging up mysterious metal 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: spheres while mining pyro philight pro fhilight. What is that? 33 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: It's basically chalk for like blackboards or tailors. It's really 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: soft chalk. The spheres measure approximately an inter or so 35 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: in diameter and summer etched with three parallel grooves running 36 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: around the equator, and some only have one. There are 37 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: two types of some of them any at all? Well, yeah, 38 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: there is there is that, but this is the this 39 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: is your fantastic Okay, they all have grooves. Okay. Two 40 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: types of spheres have been found. One is composed of 41 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: solid bluish metal with flux of white, and the other 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: is hollowed out and filled with a spongy white substance 43 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: like the rock in which they're found is god. The 44 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: rocket which they are found is Precambrian. So according to that, 45 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: it's dated to be two point eight million. That's billion 46 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: years old. If we were just talking about this, do 47 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: you keep giving me crap all the time about carbon 48 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: dating and how you can actually carbon date natural materials. 49 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: With the rocks and stuff like, you can't tell how 50 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: old they are, so what what do you I'm in 51 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: the fantastical telling. So it's okay, okay, all right, okay, 52 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. All right. I just wanted 53 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: to be able to say, wait, I know, sir, I'm 54 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you. I understand. Okay. Can I continue on? Yes, okay, 55 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: you may proceed. Thank you. We have a gentleman by 56 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: the name of Rolf Marks, who is the former curator 57 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: of the Clerk Store Museum. He is quoted as saying, 58 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: there is nothing scientific published about the globes, but the 59 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: facts are they're found in pyro Philight, which is mined 60 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: near the little town of Auto Stall. Is that how 61 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: you said? Okay? In the Western Transvaal. The pyrophilight is 62 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: a soft secondary mineral and was formed by sediment about 63 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: two point eight billion years ago. On the other hand, 64 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: the globes, which have a fibers structure on the inside 65 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: with a shell around it, are very hard and cannot 66 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: be scratched even by steel, steel, even by steel. What 67 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: about diamonds. I don't think anybody's tried that. South Africa's 68 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: diamonds lying around everywhere, everywhere, everywhere. We got, we got. 69 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: We got one more bit of awesomeness that you'll find 70 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: on these on the web when you find this in 71 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: its standard awesome telling. It also seems that the spheres 72 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: are delicately balanced, meaning that even with modern technology g 73 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: they would have to have been made in zero gravity, 74 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: a perfectly balanced and according to the story, NASA got 75 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: a hold of a couple of them, and they were 76 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: confused when they examined them, and they couldn't explain how 77 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: they remained. We're still in fantasyland, right, that's the end 78 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: of fantasy land, Okay. I just like, oh, there are 79 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: so many Okay, we're just gonna have to go through 80 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: this because there are so many things. Oh yeah, no, 81 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: this this this was why when I first read, I 82 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is really crazy, and then I 83 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,239 Speaker 1: started going way in a minute, there's some issues here, Yeah, 84 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: as a lot of a lot of smack, just just 85 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: crap has been put out. Yeah, so let's let's just 86 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of suss this down real fast with just some 87 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: of the basics that we've got. These are really the 88 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: things that I've sussed out that are kind of the 89 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: the easy facts. We've got what people referred to as 90 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: possibly an out of place artifact. They so there's weird. 91 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: They're round rocks, they have grooves around their equator, and 92 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: they're inner material in the earth that doesn't match them, 93 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: and they don't really seem like they should be there. 94 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: They're kind of cool looking based on the images that 95 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: you see on the internet, and I would say it's 96 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: about the size of a golf ball, not an inch 97 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: would they be about? You know? Actually they from whatever. 98 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: They vary from about half a centimeter to like ten centimeters, 99 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: which is about four inches. Those are the largest ones 100 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: that Okay, I've seen, I've seen the variants, but I 101 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: can I don't work with centimeters, so I'm always confused 102 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: when it comes to putting that in relation to something 103 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: in real world, which is what is that around the 104 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: golf ball? And I didn't the down and dirty thing, 105 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: which is a centimeter is pretty close to half an inch, 106 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: close enough for government work anyway. Centimeters equals five inches. 107 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: Knock off a little bit because the centimeter is actually 108 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: a little shorter than a half an inch. So we're 109 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: looking at the softball. Yeah, very few, I think, I think, 110 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: I think I tend to be kind of more towards 111 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: the small end of the range. Well, the one that 112 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: they show on the internet all the time is about 113 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: the size of a golf ball, and it's got this 114 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: really weird dived in the front of it, which along 115 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: with the fact that it's got grooves around the outside, 116 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: everybody goes crazy for um and they all say it 117 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: looks like the Death Star. Well, it kind of does that. 118 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: That's kind of the best facts that we've got about 119 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: these things. It could have been an alien blueprint for 120 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: the best star blueprinting technology. They did a three D 121 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: print of it, and then they dropped it and it 122 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: fell to Earth. Yeah I got it. Yeah, Okay, so yeah, 123 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: the Rebel Alliance actually stole the blueprints and then they 124 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: dropped it on Earth because that nobody would ever find 125 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: it on Earth, I guess. I mean, I think it 126 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: is fair to say it does kind of look that 127 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: way though. I mean, the one, the one that you 128 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: see all the time kind of dus kind look up 129 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: the Death Star actually had one group around the middle. 130 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: This one has three. Yeah, no, the one that's got 131 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: the hole in it, it just has the one. Oh, 132 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: you're right, it does have the single group. Yeah, that's 133 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: you're right. It is the same grew. Oh my god, 134 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: it's so crazy. We're gonna have to I mean, of course, 135 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: that's probably the one that we put up a website. 136 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: What they need to do is they need to scientists 137 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: need to, like, you know, get a basketball and sort 138 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: of put that thing in orbit on the basketball and 139 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: see if some rays come out of it and destroy 140 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: the basketball. And before we forget I know, we left 141 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Fantasy Land already, but Joe and I were chatting about 142 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: this earlier, and I had forgotten about this piece of 143 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: the story until he brought it up. Was about the 144 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: fact that these things rotated. Yeah, that's there, according to supposedly, 145 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: according to I shouldn't say, according to the Rolf Marks, 146 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the former curator at the Clerk Store museum. Yeah, he was. 147 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: He was quoted as saying that they were they were 148 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: stored in vibration free cases, and yet they turned around 149 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: on their axes all on their own. Yeah, And we'll 150 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: debunk that in a minute. But one of the interesting 151 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: things is, like I was just looking at pictures because 152 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm really good at focusing on what we're doing here, 153 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: and it's like, there's this outer a cross and then 154 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: the inner layer. Right, most of them have that in 155 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: ther layer, and you cut it in half and there's 156 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: it's distinct, right, And I think that that's a thing 157 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: that you see a lot in weird things that might 158 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they don't rotate on their own, but 159 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: might I would be more prone to rotating. Maybe it 160 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: was a misinterpretation of like, oh, if you spin it, 161 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: it rotates really well or something. I'll tell you what, Joe, Yeah, 162 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and spill the beans on what happens and 163 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: why these things rotated. Yeah. Yeah. So this this, this 164 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: of course made its way, you know, twenty times around 165 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: the world before someone to actually contact this guy, and 166 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: that's Rolf Marks, former curator at the Clear Store for museum. Somebody, 167 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: somebody contacted him and asked him about this, and he 168 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: said that no, what he what he had told people 169 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: is that they were sitting in cases, and because there's 170 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot of mining operations nearby, there's explosions going off 171 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: in the earth, and there's vibrations all the time and 172 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: tremors in the earth, and these things were not in 173 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 1: vibration free cases. They were in cases that were vibrating 174 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: because because of all the mining going on around and 175 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: so naturally they were moving around a little bit on 176 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: their own. And and that's really that's really really creepy, 177 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: although maybe not so much, I mean, because you know, 178 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: and then the story got spun around, so now they're 179 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: vibration free case. Let's put some more credit where credit 180 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: is due. This guy he's in charge of or he's 181 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: credited with perpetuating a lot of these crazy things. But 182 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: as soon as somebody contacts him, he's like, that's not 183 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: what I said at all. You guys are idiot. Well, 184 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: and here's here's the great thing. That's that's a perfect 185 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: place to start. So let's go ahead and let's talk 186 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: about some of this story and where it came from 187 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: originally and how it got so fantastical so fast. The 188 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: for the first time the story came out was Joe 189 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: apparently uh seven and nine and October two, n nine 190 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: issue with the National Enquirer, And then so you've got 191 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: the night National Enquirer. And then the same article or 192 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: somewhat modified article was published in the Juno eleventh n 193 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: issue of Scope magazine. Yeah, and and just so, I mean, 194 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: just so everybody understands, Scope is a tabloid. Scope is 195 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: the National Enquirer of South Africa Africa country. Yeah, it 196 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: was known for inflating its stories just to make giant headlines, 197 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: just to sell the paper, Comic CBS or the Weekly 198 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: World which coincidentally, The Weekly World News published this story 199 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: several years after the fact. You didn't know they recycled 200 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: stories endlessly. Didn't really get that. I thought bat Boy 201 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: was just always up to funny hijinks, which okay, So 202 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: now we can see really easily how this thing got 203 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: so crazy so quickly, with so many made up claims, 204 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: is the best way to say it. The thing that 205 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: I said earlier about NASA having gotten ahold of some 206 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: of these and being per perplexed and not knowing how 207 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: they were made and why they were so perfectly balanced. Yeah, 208 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: that never happened. There's no record at NASA of anybody 209 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: ever giving them one of these and examining it. Yeah, 210 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: I think that actually I might have an answer to 211 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: that one. You maybe actually did. So. A guy named 212 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Paul Heinrich wrote an article in uh a publication called 213 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: Reports of the National Center for Science Education. This article 214 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: is called the Mysterious Spheres of Auto Stall, South Africa. 215 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: It was published in two thousand and eight UM and 216 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: he was the one that came up with that thing earlier. 217 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: He was the one that he actually found the first 218 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: publication of this in the National Inquirer. So this guy 219 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: actually did did all of our homework for us. So thanks, 220 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: thanks Paul Heinrich. We really, we really really appreciate that. 221 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: Uh So he said, this is probably where the NASA 222 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: thing came from. So for a brief time, the clerk 223 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: Starff the clerks Dorp Museum web page had the text 224 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: of a letter from a guy named John Hunt of Pietersburg, 225 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: South Africa, UM and this letter claimed that the results 226 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: of the an examination of one of the objects by 227 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: the California Space Institute, which is research unity of the 228 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: University of California found all sorts of fantastic things. They 229 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: said that the its balance is so fine, exceed the 230 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: limit of their measuring technology, and was with win within 231 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: one hundred thousands of an inch from absolute perfection. Uh. 232 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: And this this letter also said that the California Space Institute, 233 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: where these scientists supposedly were, is the organization that made 234 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: gyroscopes for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration or NASA, 235 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: So that may be where that sort of entered into 236 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: was that letter was supposedly sent. I'm not sure and 237 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: it was sent. The date when it was spotted on 238 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: the museum's website was two thousand two, but it could 239 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: have been. I guess it was probably up there for 240 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: a while. The story so so firmly. Yeah, So that's yeah. 241 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, and and actually it turns out this same 242 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: guy behind ranked, the guy to whom we owe so 243 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: much because he did all of our legwork for us, 244 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: actually contacted a scientist at the California Space Institute who 245 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: said that he did remember examining one of the objects, 246 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: and that he had actually gotten HI from this guy 247 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: named Hunt. But and he said that nobody there ever 248 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: told Hunt that these things had the extraordinary properties that 249 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: he claimed they did in this letter of course. Yeah. 250 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: He and he suggested that there was quote some error 251 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: and transmission on quote, which is a plight with saying 252 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: somebody's full of it. And he also said that the 253 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: claim that the California Space To makes gyroscopes for NASA 254 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: is completely untrue. That's true. So that's that's true even. Yes, 255 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: so this thing this see is kind of unraveling for us. Yeah, 256 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: and you know what, there's there's two other things that 257 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna point out real fast, and then we'll get 258 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: into some theory stuff as to what are there where 259 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: they came from. There was at one point in the 260 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: story there was a comment that said they were so 261 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: hard they couldn't be scratched by steel. What does that 262 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: even mean? That's the problem because there's a bazillion grades 263 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: of steel. We just talked about this in the Uffbert. Yes, 264 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: that's just the worst and there's super solid pure steel, 265 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: so that that just saying it can't be scratched by 266 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: steel doesn't say anything. That's that's not a measurement that 267 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: you can put out there and have any credibility. Yeah. No, Um, 268 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: the guy I'm going to beat this Paul Heinrich thing 269 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: to death. Here. He actually, as I said, was he's 270 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: actually given several of these objects, and he actually sought 271 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: a couple of them and a half. So it's harder 272 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: than steel? How do you do that? He said that 273 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: he examined them and they had there's a thing called 274 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: the most scales m hardness hardness, and you found out 275 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: of them to be harder than four to five on 276 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: the most scale. And he said that a rating of 277 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: seven to eight is more typical steel of hardened steel. 278 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: So they're not harder than the steel. Yeah, here's the 279 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: other thing. They're called spheres, but they're not round. They're 280 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: not perfectly round. They're actually most of them are. Okay, 281 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: they're not like a golf ball perfectly round. They're more 282 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: like a squished golf ball. They're kind of wide in 283 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: the middle and then they taper up and down so 284 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: there they look like something that's been there, more like 285 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: a disc shape. Yeah, some of them are. Some of 286 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: them are pretty symmetrical. There are some that are very 287 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: symmetrical now there, but some of them are not. You know, 288 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of times they're found clumped together. The 289 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: word the way I saw it explained that made a 290 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Is like soap bubbles. You know, when 291 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: you're a kid, you blow soap bubbles in the air, 292 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: and then a bunch of them joined together, and they 293 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: are they actually clumped together like that. They're stuck together 294 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: like that, which interesting is a little weird. You don't 295 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: see any pictures of them like that. You do see 296 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: some when you start looking around, and here's the here's 297 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: the one. The one thing I'm going to point out 298 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: is you know that awesome picture that makes it looks 299 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: like the Death Star. Yeah, that photo is stretched to 300 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: make it round. It's that one's actually evidently a little flat, 301 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: and that photo has been drug so that a little upward, 302 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: a little downward so that it looks a little a 303 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: little more perfect. So there's not I don't I looked 304 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: at numerous pictures of these things. I haven't seen one 305 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: that was actually spherical. I haven't seen one that was 306 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: perfectly round. I mean, there's something that are pretty close, 307 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: and some of them are pretty symmetrical like but that's 308 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: that's about where it ends. So let's get into some 309 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: theories about these things, because they're still weird. They still 310 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: don't make any sense. It's very odd. Uh. And we're 311 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and we're just gonna go straight to 312 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: what standard science says. We're irrationals. We're gonna go rational, irrational, 313 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: irrational rationals. Yes, we're switching it up today, Haliburton and 314 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Big Tobacco, wat us all the things. Uh. So the 315 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: first thing is modern science says that their natural formations. 316 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: That makes sense. It does. And I had to I 317 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: really had to kind of read through this to to 318 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: figure out how this would happen and how this works. 319 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna walk through this and we'll 320 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: just we'll do what we can to make this as 321 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: understandable as possible. According to uh and you were quoting him, 322 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: Paul Heinrich, this fears are actually what are called concretions. 323 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: They're not made out of metal, as Joe was saying, 324 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: So that's a big issue. They there's spheres made out 325 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: of hematite, which is an iron ore mineral, and that 326 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: they're volcanic concretions. So here's how this works. To to 327 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: just kind of break it down into the simplest way. 328 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 1: Because they're in the pirrify light, which is soft, but 329 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: it's not it's not continuous all the way down. In 330 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: other words, there's pockets in there. There's voids in the material, 331 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: and sentiments come down in water and they percollect down 332 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: through that material and when they hit that void, evidently, 333 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: according to how a concretion works, is that the metals 334 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: that's in the water is separated and then it begins 335 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: to build up and it fills in that void. So 336 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: basically it fills a hole. That makes a lot of 337 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: sense to me that, like the water would just settle 338 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: in these pockets, right, and then it would get warmer, 339 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: so the water, the actual water would evaporate, but the 340 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: minerals that were in the water would stay, and then 341 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: it would happen doesn't evaporate, say, but it's for whatever reason, Yeah, 342 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: So it would keep the mineral deposits would keep happening there. 343 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: And the picture that I kind of think is like 344 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: a water filter right through charcoal, is it's the same 345 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: kind of variance of material. So the charcoal or the 346 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: piratefy life, yeah, is filtering out stuff and it's getting 347 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: stuck in these pockets. And the reason that there are 348 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: the rings around the spears is because that just happens 349 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: to be that there was a ring in the pocket 350 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: where they were formed. That's the only explanation corting science 351 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: is that it just happens to be at that midway point, 352 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: or it's somewhere in there. There was some kind of 353 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: groove that they grew into, because as they've build up, 354 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: they're going to fill in that pocket. I guess to 355 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: play aliens advocate, right, it's advocated right. I mean, but 356 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: there are a lot of these spheres, right, and a 357 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: lot of them have these kind of that just seems 358 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: like a big coincidence to have happened that many times 359 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: in that kind of perfect way. Just draw that out there, 360 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: with that many of the spheres to have that many 361 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: rings that perfectly. The only thing, the only thing that 362 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: I could think of that maybe could have explained it is, 363 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: let's say that there's this void in the concretion is 364 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: developing in there, and it gets about halfway and then 365 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: the earth settles a little bit, and so the material 366 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: around it is going to try and fill in that void, 367 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: but it can't do it now because it's partially occupied 368 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: by this mineral deposit. Does that make sense, I guess, 369 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: But I feel like it would have filled the whole 370 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: thing until you'd get these like semicircles. That might be 371 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: why they're they're flattening thing. But then they but they 372 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: still have the rings they do. But here's I'm just 373 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: bring and I appreciate that. But here's the funny thing. 374 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: These are not the only kind of spears that are found, 375 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: not like clerk starts the only place that we find these. 376 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: Now they are fine. Just just just a quick aside 377 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: though from my longer article by Paul Heinrich. Apparently the 378 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: way I understand it from reading his explanation is that 379 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: they don't they don't fill in hollow spots and the sediments, 380 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: but instead they just sort of they seep through and 381 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: they start to build up within the sediment itself. So 382 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: they're reacting with the material of the sediment. So it's 383 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: like gaming together. Yeah, And so the um the rings 384 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: are because the sediment basically is in layers, and so 385 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: there's some of the some some fine layers of those 386 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: are are just some layers are finer and more dense 387 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: than other layers above and below them, and so the 388 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: concretion occurs more slowly in that particular little piece of layer, 389 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: and so that's why it doesn't grow outward as much, 390 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: and so you get you get a little indentation or 391 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: a ring in the object, and then it goes up 392 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: a little bit and it's back to the less finally 393 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: grained sentiment and it grows out to the original diameter. 394 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: And so that's that is how the rings are formed. 395 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah, that's interesting. It's just so interesting that 396 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: it would be a sphere then, right, or like close 397 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: to a sphere, you know that it would just be 398 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: like that little bit in the middle and then oh, 399 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: it's perfectly compact or whatever. But that doesn't but that 400 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: does also explain the ones that have multiple grooves around them, 401 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: if it's if it's different densities. I guess it's the 402 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: right word to use of the sediment. But why is 403 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: it spearce? Right, Yeah, I don't understand it enough, but 404 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: I do know that concretions happen. Yeah, totally. The geologist 405 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: this kind of thing is very common. As you were 406 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: about to say, they have occurred are in many other 407 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: places around the world. Right, So we've got the Molky marbles, 408 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: which you're from southwest Utah and they're about the same size. Uh, 409 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: there's a couple of places on the East Coast of 410 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: the US that have very perfectly round is looking sphere 411 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: rocks that are totally normal. Australia, there's the hammers lea group. 412 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: That's another one, and I've seen some of these and 413 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: some of these rocks, I mean they they're rocks and 414 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: they're perfectly round, and they're like the size of a cannonballer. 415 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: More well, they're the ones in I guess South Africa, 416 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: which or no South America, which I assume will. I mean, 417 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll do a show on at some point 418 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: that are giant, right, that are like eight or nine 419 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: ft tall. I'm not familiar with those ones. Well we'll 420 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: talk about they're giant and they are like spheres as well. 421 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: I think those I suspect those are from something else, 422 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: but they also I guess could maybe potentially fall into 423 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: this category. And well you know what those are from 424 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: is do you remember the first Indiana Jones movie. Yeah, Well, 425 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: those and that giant ball at the beginning that was 426 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: rolling down trying to attempting to crush him as he 427 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: invaded that temple to plunder. It's it's right, right, right, Well, 428 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: those came, it's theorized from a single manufacturers. Yeah. Yeah, 429 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: and again, I mean I'll probably do a show about 430 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: this at some point. But the like indigenous theories that 431 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: it was giants, it was the marbles of giants. Awesome. Yeah, 432 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: so all that out there. Yeah. The next theory that 433 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: we have, which is still within the realm of plausible 434 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: is meteorites. Okay, I can't Okay, Yeah, yeah, I mean 435 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: we know meteors hit our planet all the time, and 436 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: a couple of billion years ago there was probably a 437 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: bunch more hitting the planet than there are now because 438 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: things were different back then. I don't think we had 439 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: as as strong as an atmosphere. That could be completely 440 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: a bad scientific statement to make, but no, I think 441 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 1: the I think that the Solar system was in more 442 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: the states of Upheople. Yes, that's a good way to 443 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: put it. There's also a lot of reports of meteors 444 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: being discovered in Africa. It's a huge continent, so that 445 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: doesn't there Uh well, yeah, they find them and they 446 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: find them all over Africa all the time. And if 447 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: you follow the Pangaea, is that the theory that we 448 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: started out as one continent, and the big chunk of 449 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: it was we all broke off from Africa, So Africa 450 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: was kind of the center of it. So also Africa 451 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: one of the least developed countries right or continents. It's 452 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: not even one country, right, there's not a lot of 453 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: industrial not like digging stuff up and paving over stuff 454 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: like that. It's very true. Last year in North Africa 455 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: they found a meteorite that was actually part of Mars. Rightly, 456 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: according to this report that I came across this, it 457 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: was a it was a chunk of Mars. They've been 458 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: scraped off. And yeah, I mean that that kind of 459 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: thing has been documented. They I mean, you know, at 460 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: times Mars and the Earth and the Moon have been 461 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: hit with really gigantic objects, some of those creators on 462 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: the moon. The moon is a product, right of us 463 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: getting hit by something. Really, That's that's one theory, although 464 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: there's other theories, and I don't know that that one's 465 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: really prevalent theory anymore. Next week on thinking we'll talk 466 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: about that, we'll solve that. The moon, well, yeah, he 467 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: gets smacked with something, something really enormous material fly so 468 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: but it's completely plausible that it could have been meteorites 469 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: and and you know they bury themselves in the ground 470 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: and then sediment continues to build up on top of them. 471 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: We could have had, you know, bunches and bunches of 472 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: meteor storms that we're hitting this one area and dropping 473 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: these stones, and what we what he hits at the 474 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: end is what's left of a larger object and it's 475 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: been eroded in a very very interesting manner usually right, 476 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: So that would explain the spherical nature that could possibly 477 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: explain it. Yep, that is very true. So if they 478 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: are meteorites, then that would also explain why they're not 479 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: the same as the sediment that they're found in. True, 480 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: because they're a little different. And this, uh, this kind 481 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: of object has been spotted in other places, namely Mars. Yeah, yeah, 482 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: I knew that would take a second to sink in. Uh. 483 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: In two thousand and twelve, the Mars are Over Curiosity 484 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: sent back images of spheres that were embedded in an 485 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: outcrop of on Mars. Of and they call the place 486 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: what did they call it Kirkwood? Which is it's in 487 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: the western rim of the Endeavor Crater. So how do 488 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: they know that this place is called Kirkwood? Is there 489 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: a sign? Anyway? They found Mars and they took images 490 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: of a bunch of what could be concretions like this 491 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: set into the surface and it's they're about the same size. 492 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: So it could be that they are the ones that 493 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: are on Mars are a product of the natural process 494 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: according to modern science say, or it could have been 495 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: other meteors that were buried and then slowly excavated by 496 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: winds and whatnot. That's crazy. I was just again just 497 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 1: looking at pictures and they like that. They do. That's crazy. 498 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: That's what the weird thing is. I think they nicknamed him. 499 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: There's there's more than one kind that they've found, and 500 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: I remember one of them was called they called the blueberries. 501 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: They look this is girls, they look like boils, but 502 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: the ladies and gentlemen. You now have a visual. So yeah, 503 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: so they were formed on Mars and then Mars gets 504 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: hit with a really massive rock on their center over 505 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: to Earth or vice versa. They're formed on Earth and 506 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: then they get cent over to Mars. Yeah, either way, so, 507 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: but it looks like they're happening on another planet. So 508 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: it's either one of these two theories could apply to 509 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: both plants. One of these things is not like the other, 510 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's not like the other though. Our next theory. 511 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: What's that It's Devin's favorite aliens, aliens. Okay, Okay, here 512 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: we go. Okay, so there's a lot of people who 513 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: use the clerk Storp spears as proof that there was 514 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: a civilization on our planet before us. Okay, wait, I'm 515 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: going to take offense to the term aliens in this context. 516 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to say this is a prehistoric intelligent race 517 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: because they are not aliens, because they existed on our 518 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: planet as predecessors to our race. I just I mean, 519 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 1: I feel like aliens implies people from intelligent beings frama 520 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: different planet coming to Earth and not settling here, not 521 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: becoming Earth beings, not becoming Earthlings. Okay, right, people who 522 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: are not native to Earth, or people who do a 523 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: prior civilization of beings. You're welcome. Okay, that is much better. Okay. 524 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: But but but I mean you would like this distinction 525 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: because you think that they might have been some race 526 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: that evolved naturally here on the planet or lived here, right. 527 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean that the implication of this theory that they 528 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: aided here, saying that they were on this planet for 529 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: some duration of time. Yeah, I would say that those 530 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: are like prior native earthlings Okay, natives that doubt that 531 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: they originated that far, because when did life actually originate 532 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: on Earth? Well, that's that's what we've got because according 533 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: to the according to the established age of these fears, 534 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: they're Precambrian. At that time, the only record of life 535 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: that we can determine was on this planet was algae. Yeah, yeah, 536 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: that's exactly just microbes and things like that. Right. So, 537 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: but this theory, if I'm understanding it correctly, is that 538 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: that there were sentient beings, intelligent beings that we're creating 539 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: these things that existed on Earth at that time. Right, 540 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: That's how this theory goes, right, Yes, yeah, which is no, 541 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't find that credible, are you kidding me? Would 542 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: be dead body somewhere like we got on a fossil 543 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: of some kind. They were like boneless algae creatures, which tb. Yeah, 544 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: I can just see algae producing one of these things 545 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: that what's that? What's that one critter that's always on Futurama, 546 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: the green globe? No, no, no, the green glob that 547 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: eats you and everybody can see you floating around in 548 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: his guts because he's a green blob. They were boneless. 549 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: It was just all it was was like what phytoplasm? Right? 550 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so like I'm willing to accept maybe 551 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: if we're saying that beating that we've beaten that to death. 552 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: Here's Here's where then the spheres come in is then 553 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: people come up with all kinds of explanations of what 554 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: that civilization would have used them for. If we just 555 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: run with the theory that there was some sentient being 556 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: on this planet, Atlantis could have been Atlantis, but we 557 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: don't know. But we're just running with there's some kind 558 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: of civilization than what were the spheres used for? Oh? Yeah, 559 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: they were used for a lot of things, according to 560 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: the theories. They were currency, they were ammunition, maybe they 561 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: were talisman's, they were a form of art. Maybe they 562 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: were a form of a record keeping device. Definitely not 563 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: well listen, listen, Okay, too giant to be currency, right, Like, 564 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: who wants to carry that around? Really? I mean truly, 565 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: even if you're a giant, you don't really want to 566 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: carry that around. Okay, art? Maybe probably form of ammunition. 567 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: Maybe that's about the right. Wouldn't we be finding little 568 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: cannons that would have been shot out of the probably 569 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: the Alismans who wants to wear something that big? People 570 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: do it all the time. Listen, I've seen some of 571 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: the weird jewelry that you've worn before. It's big strand though, right, 572 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: Like you don't wear one pendant. People do sometimes, but 573 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: then you would find other things and there would be 574 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: holes in it. Throw that out there, and then I 575 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: just think, well, the thing about it is too, is 576 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: that again, if they're like say talisman's or some form 577 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: of currency whatever, then that would apply. That would apply 578 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: a fairly primitive culture. And again, it's not possible for 579 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: there there to have been any sort of primitive culture 580 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: on this planet at that time, at that point in time, 581 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: because because the culture that's something only culture that could 582 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: have been here was a sophisticated alien culture that came 583 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: and hung out for a while, a little while, a 584 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: long time. I think that's true. I know, and I'm 585 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: with Joe on this one. Is that like, if this 586 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: is something from a leftover from a culture that is 587 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: a culture sophisticated enough to have exited the Earth before 588 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: any of them died right or left any record that 589 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: we can currently recognize as living beings dying, that's a 590 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: hugely sophisticated culture. They know how to work metal. They're 591 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: not carrying around metal balls. Yeah and yeah, why would 592 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: they and why would they make these stupid little things 593 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: when they cool stuff like iPads fossilized remain So it 594 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: turns out I'm with Joe. Yeah, that's unusual. It's super unusual. Okay, well, 595 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad we've got that one settled. Cool. Now 596 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: we get to have even more fun because we're going 597 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: to the outer edge theory. There's more, there is one more, okay, okay, 598 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: right off the bat. Uh, this is very far flung 599 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: and the links of piece A two piece B are 600 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: kind of tenuous. But we're just going to take these 601 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: leaps of faith this alright. So to start off with, 602 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: we need to get off the planet Earth. Oh where 603 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: are we going? We're going to go to Saturn. Were 604 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: going to get there? What snap of my fingers were there? Yeah, 605 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm just that good. Well, there is a moon around 606 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: Saturn that it's the eighth moon of Saturn called Yapatis. 607 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: Saturn is hoarding moons. It got more than their fair 608 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: shared out there. They have way many more more than 609 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: they need. Yeah. Yeah, Occupy Saturnpaturn hashtag occupies satura. There 610 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: we go. The first thing we need to look at 611 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: when we get to this moon is sorry, I'm sorry, 612 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: what did you say? It was called again? I wasn't. 613 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: The first thing that we want to look at when 614 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 1: we look at this moon is the equatorial ridge that's 615 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: running around the moon. It's it's got a big old 616 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: ridge going about around its circumference all the way around. 617 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: That ridge is about twelve and a half miles high 618 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: at its peak, it's a hundred and twenty four miles 619 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: across at its whitest dge. It is one heck of 620 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: a ridge. Uh. And the other thing, so it's weird 621 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: because it's got this ridge, which is kind of like 622 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: the spheres. They have a ridge though it's it's not 623 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: yeah they have they have an any it's got an auty. 624 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: But the next thing we want to look at is that. 625 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: And this is based on photos of the moon, and 626 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how much validity I put in them, 627 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: but according to the photos of the moon, if you 628 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: look at it, it's got a rectlinear geometry. What are 629 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: you talking about right now? Yeah, it's not spheral, but okay, 630 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: so it's not a sphere. But what does that even 631 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 1: shape mean that shape means that it is what they 632 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: call in some of these articles and icosahedrad. What an icosahedra, 633 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's kind of like it's a sided object. 634 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: So it's got it's got polygons and hexagons making up inside. Yeah. 635 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: If you've played dungeons, right then you're quite familiar with that. Yes, yeah, 636 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: we almost succeeded. There we go. White people really do 637 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: have more trouble doing the high fi. All right. So 638 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: the it has, according to these observations, this odd structure 639 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: to the to it, and that along with the fact 640 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: that there is a huge depression on the surface of 641 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: it that's in the shape of a hexagon on plus 642 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: these this linear geometry along it's outside, so it's not round. 643 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: It's like it's made by math. It's a mathematical shape. 644 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: People say it's not really a planet. Well I think okay, 645 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: and again aliens advocate here, right, But I feel like 646 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: that is a good point. Things that are made by nature, 647 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: by and large are spherical in some way. They may 648 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: not be a perfect circle, they may be an oval. 649 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: They're around, they have rounded shapes because that's what nature 650 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: or the universe or the laws of physics due to 651 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: things is they make things kind of a sphere because 652 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: everything gets gloamed together in kind of a sphere, not 653 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: with these like weird flat planes flat planes on them. 654 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: And I feel like that's a I mean again, that's 655 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: not typical planet moon formation. Yeah, and it's it's okay, 656 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: So maybe it's pictures. Maybe we're totally in I hear it. 657 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: Maybe the pictures are like reflecting something weird or whatever. 658 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: But that's weird. If it's true that that's how that 659 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: moon is shaped, that's weird. It's a little odd. And 660 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: I've been looking at these pictures again, like while we're 661 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: doing this, and there are a lot of pictures of 662 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: the spheres that have like weird kind of angular side 663 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: a little bit to them. They're not actually nice and 664 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: smooth and round. Yeah, but I've gotta say, I've looked 665 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: at pictures of the oppotus and it doesn't look to 666 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: me like a D twenty. It looks like it's pretty 667 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: much spherical except for them. Yeah. It's it's in key 668 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: photographs that people point out that hey, this isn't actually 669 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: around object, and that's that's you're finding the photo that 670 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: you're looking for is kind of what everybody else says, Oh, 671 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for, And I wonder you're referencing 672 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: that one. But I can see how you would say 673 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: that because most of the things that you see it 674 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: doesn't actually look like it's got flat edges to us. 675 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: It looks kind of spherical to me, but with a weird, 676 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: funny ridge around it, and I think it's personally. I 677 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: think it's something to do with the ridge that makes 678 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: it weird. But I don't know. Okay, well, let's just 679 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: say that we're just gonna run with this that it's 680 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: a D twenty is actually what this moon is. Okay, well, 681 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: then what's that mean. If it's a D twenty and 682 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: it's not naturally occurring, then that splits the debate in 683 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: half as to what that means for Yapetus. Actually, it 684 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: doesn't split into two, it's splits it into three. I 685 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: apologize for that. Uh. Some people say that it was 686 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: a death star type plant for some species that's no 687 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: longer around. In other words, they were gonna use it 688 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: to as a weapon of some sort and then either 689 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: won the war, lost the war, were wiped out by 690 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: the war. I don't know what but they're they're not 691 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: around anymore, and so it drifted until it was finally 692 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: caught by Saturday and now it's just in Saturday's orbit. Yeah, 693 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: you know what happened is they we're going to come 694 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: to Earth and kick our asses, and they came down 695 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: and we turned them onto things like pot and tobacco. 696 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: And I don't think this beyond a death star. What 697 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: else could it have been? Well, we have the theory 698 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: that it is a world sized arc. I kind of 699 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: like the theory, kind of like it too. This is 700 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 1: saying that it was used by some other species to 701 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: carry the seeds of life across the galaxy until it 702 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: found the inappropriate planet, and then until it found a 703 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: Goldilocks planet, found a Goldilocks planet, and then it sent 704 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: down all the biological material that was needed and that 705 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: was carried in the spheres. So the spheres hit, they 706 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: release everything and then it's like, well, my job's done 707 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: and it just hangs out And isn't it worth mentioning that? 708 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: Like right like within in that entry of these rocks 709 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: being dated, this is when we have an explosion of life. 710 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, within a reason seventy years within within and 711 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: two years but within, like on a global timeline, in 712 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: a very small fragment of time, Suddenly around that that 713 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: Precambrian area is where things're absolutely correct. I feel like 714 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: there's something worth it. Yeah. The only problem I have 715 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: with that there is that these things were containers of life, 716 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: then shouldn't they be popped open? No? Because didn't we 717 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: just talk about this. We talked about this in the 718 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: Spanish flu episode. Is that true? And that like if 719 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: it had a frozen shell of seeds around it, right, 720 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 1: it was frozen and it entered the atmosphere and everything 721 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: kind of melted and everything fell to the earth and 722 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: then everything No, it could be No, I know where 723 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: you're going here, And I remember part of that where 724 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: part of it was pulled away and not all of 725 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: it was burned up. And I think basically what it 726 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 1: means is the sphere is kind of the rubbery, squishy 727 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: inside part of your golf ball, and the outside of 728 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: the golf ball is what carried all the seeds of life. 729 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like the theory kind of 730 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: a lot. I knew you like this, you did. I 731 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: knew you would and again and you know to like 732 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: not to go on a tirade here, But I'm kind 733 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: of a little bit. Yeah, I just think that like 734 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: it's a big mystery of our history of our planet 735 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,399 Speaker 1: that like there was nothing for a really long time 736 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: and then suddenly there was kind of everything. Well, yeah, 737 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: the major theory is that is that most of the 738 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 1: water that we have and probably life also is brought 739 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: by comets. Right, But so, like, what's so different between 740 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,399 Speaker 1: saying like it was comets and it was these tiny 741 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 1: little spheres A sphere is honest. Yeah. The other thing 742 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: that probably had with that is that they should be 743 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: we should be ideum everywhere on the planet, but we 744 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: are aren't. We We're finding similar rocks, similar rocks in 745 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: other places, but but they're kind of concentrated places Like 746 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: that doesn't really kill the theory entirely, but I would 747 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 1: think that they would be found pretty much everywhere, and 748 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: they're not found. Okay, Well, if I'm if I'm going 749 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: to stand up and defend this, then you also have 750 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: to remember that what happens when there's geologic upheaval and 751 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: let's say they're all over and then volcanoes happen and things, 752 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, and flood flood so much, but plate tectonic 753 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: so plates are getting eaten up and that material is 754 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: getting pulled down and melted down. I mean, there's a 755 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: lot of geological reasons why we might not find it everywhere. 756 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, I'm gonna offend it. 757 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: I can. I can look at it from that perspective, 758 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: and then we have just one more theory on Well, 759 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: this is one more piece of if the Moon is 760 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: not real or if it's not a natural formation, And 761 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: this one's pretty awesome. It is a it's a renovated planet, 762 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 1: and it was a hotel planet, and the hotel planet 763 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 1: was drug to Saturn so that the residents are the 764 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: people staying at that hotel planet could see the beautiful 765 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: rings of Saturn. And then eventually the hotel went out 766 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: of business and they just left it there there. So 767 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: now no, But would you say it's a renovated planet, 768 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: do you mean it's an artificial structure or it's just 769 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: a planet that somebody drugged there. I'm not saying either, 770 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: because I've seen both directions where some say they took 771 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: this planet, they shaved it down, they made it into 772 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: shape that they needed, and then they drug it there. 773 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: And then I've seen some that say, oh no, it's 774 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 1: it's completely a construct. My and and my big argument 775 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 1: on that, right, even though I am the alien advocate, right, 776 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: is that if there were that many species that intelligent 777 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: to create something that came to our solar system, they 778 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: would have visited us by now. They would have made 779 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: their presence known to us by now because we have 780 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: been no, we have been sending please out to the 781 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 1: universe for so long in radio waves and other waves, 782 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: right saying hey, we're intelligent, come pay attention to us. 783 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: But if you went out of business before the you know, 784 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: before we had algae on this planet and we're a backwater, 785 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: this backwater solar system, and then it fails. There are 786 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: urban explorers in on our planet. There's like so rampant 787 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: that like people go to like Chernobyl for instance, just 788 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: to like take pictures how awesome it is. I just 789 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: find I would find it so hard to believe that, 790 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: Like if there were this alien race and they're like, hey, 791 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: there's this derelict, you know, hotel that had this awesome 792 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: view in this backwater place that like nobody really goes to, 793 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: that nobody would be like, hey, let's go there and 794 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: then be like, oh, weird, there's this radio they know 795 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: coming from this that they might have just hung out 796 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: there for a while. And then and then they when 797 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: they detected signs of intelligent life on on on the 798 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: planet Earth, they decided to vacate. Maybe. I don't know, 799 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I just think that, you know, 800 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: if there were alien species out there that had put 801 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: a hotel that close to us that recently, I mean, like, 802 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: how do you know as a hotel and not say 803 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: like a brothel, big some big leaps of you know. Yeah. 804 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: That having been said, that is the end of the 805 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: theories as to why these fears are what they are. 806 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: We've got natural formations. We've got that they were the 807 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: remnants of some form of life on this planet before us. 808 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,520 Speaker 1: We've got the uh smoon of Saturn theory. There's there's 809 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going on here. Oh and meteorites. 810 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: Can't forget about meteoritest not And I mean these are 811 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,479 Speaker 1: probably the top five. I found a lot of more 812 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: sidebar threads that go into some theories as to what 813 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: these are, but again, it just would take so long 814 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: to just go through all of them. But that's about 815 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: like alien pokemon pieces or something like that. I think 816 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: that would be the remnants of a prior civilization. They 817 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: were children's toys, they were happy meal toys. They were 818 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: they were all dumped in one area. That's that's what 819 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: it was. It was the Earth as the ocean of 820 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 1: a different alien race just come here and dump their 821 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: garbage off. So what do you what do you guys, 822 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: I mean, what's your what's your preferred theory here on 823 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: this one? Well, I can't really, I I can't choose 824 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: one over the other. I mean, they're all equally believable. 825 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: Not not really. I'll go with I'll go with the 826 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: geologists who say that this is natural concretion formations. That 827 00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: seems pretty blatantly obvious. And Christ, you know, it might 828 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: be that once again that you know, Haliburton, a big 829 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: tobacco successfully pulled the wool over my eyes. But you 830 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: but it seems like with the facts that our fingertips 831 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: so far, and that looks like the most plausible theory 832 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: because I feel obligated to provide. Yeah, I feel again, 833 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna want again once again, aliens advocate. I think 834 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: it's the arc theory. I like that theory. I mean, 835 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: I know that you put it in there because you 836 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: knew that I would like it. It's a fun theory, 837 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: it's a good I like. I mean, you know, and 838 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: again I think that like one of the big mysteries 839 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 1: that we are always trying to solve as human beings 840 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: is where did we come from? Right? Because I think 841 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: there's this like innate feeling that like, well, we couldn't 842 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: have been a product of billions of years of evolution 843 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, of course, everybody says like, yeah, no, 844 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: we were revolution It's fine, but there's always that feeling 845 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: of like, but there must be something a little bit 846 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: more right, like there's something like a little extra there 847 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,439 Speaker 1: about us. And I feel like this is a great 848 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: kind of a little something extra about us. So we 849 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 1: were so alien? Yeah, they dropped a bunch of microbes 850 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 1: on the planet and next thing, you know, here's the thing. Uh, 851 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: they're kind of like pot growers, you know, illegal pot 852 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: growers that go to the national forest and drop a 853 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: bunch of seeds. Maybe that thing, maybe that's why we 854 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: haven't been visited. Well what I've been harvested yet they're 855 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: going to come back for the harvest, I would say, everybody, 856 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: all of our listeners by guns. What do you think, Steve, I, 857 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: if I have to choose, I'm gonna go with natural formations, 858 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: although I do I could also see meteorites being a 859 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: plausible one, but after that it just it gets too 860 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: far from me. Well, and again, you know, this is 861 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: one of those quintessential like out of place artifacts, right, 862 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: and that I could almost see natural formation, but for 863 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 1: a few details. I could all will see this, but 864 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: for a few details. So I think that's, you know, 865 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: again one of the that's what makes it an unsolved mystery. Yeah, yeah, 866 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: that's that's the difficulty with this. Yeah, well, but we're 867 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: not about unsolved mysteries. We're about solving ulster wrong and 868 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: not to anybody. Well, if you want to take a 869 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: look at the image or two of these fears, or 870 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: you want to take go ahead and follow some of 871 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: the links that we've got. We'll also have a picture 872 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: of a basketball out there. If if you don't know 873 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: what a spe you can find that all on our website. 874 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,919 Speaker 1: That website is Thinking Sideways podcast dot com. 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That email address, as always is 891 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: thinking Sideways podcast at gmail dot com. Okay, well, that, uh, 892 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: that having been said is all that we've got on 893 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: this one. So it's it's still rolling around. But I 894 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: still don't have an answer to it. Now. I think 895 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: we solved it, but I don't want to say if 896 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: if you, if you are a clerk store, if you 897 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 1: are a clerk storp sphere, please call practice. We want 898 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: to hear your story. I guess that's the that's the thing, 899 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: right is we didn't think about fossils. No, it could 900 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: have been animal droppings. It was aliens. Okay, it could 901 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 1: have been alien droppings. Right, it's time to go, guys. 902 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: It was aliens. Bye bye, aliens.