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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio, at Brown's training camp twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally

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Speaker 1: Bet Now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Poe Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh baby, let's do it live kids on a Monday

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Speaker 2: edition of the program. There you go. Give me, give

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Speaker 2: me a little bit of juice on my end, A

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Speaker 2: little bit of juice. There you go. Oh, it's good

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Speaker 2: to see you. It's good to feel You's good to

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Speaker 2: see you survived the South.

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Speaker 3: You boys. I might volunteer to go back currently the

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Speaker 3: way the day is gone already having it up in

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Speaker 3: a car and let me drive back round.

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Speaker 2: Pages are in need of Rattley, Well they would be,

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Speaker 2: and listen.

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Speaker 4: He went from the ease of sharing a domicile with

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Speaker 4: me to the chaos and the great Jim Donovan, the voice,

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Speaker 4: the voice of the Cleveland Browns, the three of us

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Speaker 4: just in a cottage together. Yeah, half the time of

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Speaker 4: our lives, watching a lot of the Olympic Games. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: getting to hear Jim do commentary at all hours of

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Speaker 4: the day.

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Speaker 2: He's so dialed that he will like when if.

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Speaker 4: We're if we were in our rooms and he was

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Speaker 4: a living room, he's just call him place just right

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Speaker 4: out of his out of the head, right out of the.

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Speaker 2: Nike like ball, like our plays. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I came out of the room one time after

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Speaker 4: Oboronko got a Okuronko got a big sack on third down,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, let's go obo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh my gosh, Well look that was That.

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Speaker 4: Was serenity now for you, Gibbe, and now it's it's chaos.

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Speaker 4: So we had a preseason game coming up. Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: got a Wi Fi.

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Speaker 2: I just like, it's just it's been a while. It's

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Speaker 2: been May, it really has it's been. We did one

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Speaker 2: show like the last week of July together all of

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Speaker 2: them June. Yeah, June July. You keep saying June we

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Speaker 2: were together. There was there was one day in the

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Speaker 2: last week of July prior to us leaving, prior to

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Speaker 2: you guys leaving, where we all together.

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Speaker 4: I had a show we have not done what We're

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Speaker 4: about to embark upon, which is five straight days together.

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Speaker 4: April maybe, yeah, probably, By the way, Victory Friday, the

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Speaker 4: most popular show of the season.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was we're gonna have to wait. What's

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Speaker 2: in April? It was the last time that we may die. Oh,

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Speaker 2: because victory Fridays through much of May.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there there was one week where we where we

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Speaker 3: there were there was a friday in May and a

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Speaker 3: friday in June that we did allow that we had

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Speaker 3: to work. Yeah, yeah, correct, sure, sure, still that's like

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Speaker 3: the second week in June.

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Speaker 2: But last we're ready. We're ready. Oh, brock, Brock, there's

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Speaker 2: power right here, buddy. Look at him. God, that looks

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Speaker 2: like a man who spent twelve days at the Greenbrier

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Speaker 2: right there. Look at him.

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Speaker 3: The struggles reel today, by the way, struggles reel with everybody.

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Speaker 4: Forty two pages, seventeen seven hundred. Tell the people what

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Speaker 4: you've done? Tell me put together? Is getting ready for

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Speaker 4: the preseason game number one and you know being up

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Speaker 4: there with Chris Rose as the hoff is gallivanting around Germany.

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Speaker 4: By the way, today still a year ago today he

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Speaker 4: was inducted into the Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Those a year good to.

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Speaker 2: Day, Today's the day today? Was that Saturday?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 2: What that was a party to end all parties?

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Speaker 7: Not?

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Speaker 2: In fact it was it not.

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Speaker 5: Was it not?

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Speaker 4: In In uh, commemoration of that, I have I've updated

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Speaker 4: my wallpaper.

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Speaker 5: Two give me what do we do? From the Hops party?

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Speaker 2: From the Hops party? Yeah that was. That was a

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Speaker 2: hell of a party. That's been a year. Yeah, time flies. Nothing.

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Speaker 4: it's been this was yesterday, that it was a year

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: And he's like, I can't believe, he said, my kids

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Speaker 2: That's there were Yeah, they're Europeans and the Germans and there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's been a year. That's our Yeah, time flies.

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Speaker 2: one of the last days we did before you guys left.

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Speaker 2: Think Givy and I were doing a show and I said,

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Speaker 2: my hunch is what you're about to embark on is

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Speaker 2: similar to when I would go cover a bowl game

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Speaker 2: that wasn't a national championship game, and that is that

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Speaker 2: you're amongst a group of people who what you are

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Speaker 2: doing is the most critical thing ever. But from the

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Speaker 2: for the outside world, you were largely detached, and the

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Speaker 2: outside world is largely detached from you because you're getting

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Speaker 2: these correspondence from Afar and you guys did such a

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Speaker 2: good job on the show, and also all the Browns

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Speaker 2: content that we've seen. All of that is great, but

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Speaker 2: it's still it doesn't seem touchable. Yesterday is touchable today

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Speaker 2: now we're back better, but there is this feeling of like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what just happened. I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 4: I think for the few that were in West Virginia, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Jim and I would pop on training camp inside it

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Speaker 4: presented by Snapple, and we would, you know, bring you

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a very good week.

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Speaker 4: Look, this is what I've been saying to everybody because

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Speaker 4: we're getting to that point of a year now where

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Speaker 4: it's you know, I'm grocery shopping, and I was so

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Speaker 5: But where it's just like, hey man, how we looking.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I've already got get Yeah. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen him yet. I'll tell you after Monday.

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Speaker 4: I have seen him, and I I said, this team

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Speaker 4: is loaded, This roster is excellent. This is a top

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Speaker 4: to bottom, deep, loaded, talented football team. Do they have

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Speaker 4: to stay healthy, of course? Does the quarterback have to

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Speaker 4: Jerry Judy yesterday comes out, puts on a show the

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Speaker 4: new pieces. I mean, this is gonna be a dynamic,

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Speaker 4: explosive offense. The defense is very good. We're dinged up.

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Speaker 2: But which is OK.

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Speaker 4: For now, It's better now than September eighth. But we

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Speaker 4: gotta get we gotta get this team together and get

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Speaker 4: them working. But no, this is this is a darn

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Speaker 4: good football team. Darn good football team.

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Speaker 2: When you when you if let's let's play a little

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Speaker 2: game called three things. Okay, give me the three things

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Speaker 2: for you that when you look back at the Greenbrier

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Speaker 2: three headlines. One would be.

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Speaker 5: Just kind of the overall new look offense.

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Speaker 4: And and for example, I'll give you a two play

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Speaker 4: To the right, and everybody's going this way, and then

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Speaker 4: That's still a staple of it. So that new look offense,

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Speaker 4: He's throwing the ball better than he has, he looks

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Speaker 4: more comfortable. I truly believe in my heart of hearts

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Speaker 4: doing that at a very high level. Like yesterday, he

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Speaker 5: So he as good as he has looked and he

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can watch our interview on the Browns

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Speaker 4: YouTube channel one that Jim and I did with Deshaun

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Speaker 4: from the Greenbriar. He is just so much more comfortable.

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Speaker 4: He loves this offense. Yeah, he loves the changes that

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Speaker 4: lot of credit. Guy's two Tome Coach of the Year

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Speaker 4: doing large part to the success of the offense that

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Speaker 4: Ken Dorsey, but don't sleep on on the impact Tommy

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Speaker 4: Reese is going to have as the brown title coach.

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Speaker 4: The former offensive coordinator at Alabama year ago, and some

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Speaker 4: a guy that just kind of hearing the buzz around.

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Speaker 5: Is likely to be an offensive coordinator in the NFL soon.

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Speaker 2: So his track his quarterback at Notre Dame offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: under Brian Kelly, Marcus Freeman was a defensive coordinator. Marcus

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Speaker 2: He stays with Marcus for one year at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: And I remember saying this when we hired him that

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Speaker 2: Very selfish man. Yes, yes, yes, and enjoy it yep.

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna I'm gonna give you're asking me questions

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Speaker 2: Because just you watch what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 4: So yes, okay, I couldn't agree more with you on that.

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Speaker 4: That is that is you have as you always. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Of course you're the first show. You've hit the nail

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Speaker 4: right on easy. Duh, he's too easy. Lamps too easy,

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Speaker 4: So this is I'm gonna take this in a different direction.

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Speaker 4: a it is it is desired to be a Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 5: You want people want to be a Cleveland Brown.

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Speaker 4: So there is there is something building here that is

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Speaker 4: I want to be a Cleveland Brown until I'm done

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Speaker 4: playing football. Amari Cooper said that Dustin Hopkins said that

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Speaker 4: more and how special this place is.

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Speaker 2: So there is.

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Speaker 4: That to me when you hear it from and you

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Speaker 2: That is, uh, the way this ownership has always done that,

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Speaker 2: it's Kevin, it's Paul, yep, and it's we're all rown

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So now you have the words historic franchise, you have

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Speaker 2: this is what Pittsburgh has been for the longest time.

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Speaker 2: It's what Green Bay has been for the longest time. Baltimore, Baltimore, Philly, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll tell you Tom Withers is out here

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Speaker 4: Let's s everybody wants to be a clean Brown that's

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Speaker 2: This is unreal. He's over there, he's he's lurking, he's

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Speaker 7: Any right now.

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Speaker 4: An uncensored Gibbe podcast would be just gold spend that

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Speaker 2: Yes, very much. So, Oh my god, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: So it was it good for you to be back.

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Speaker 4: Great being back, Love being back. It's great to be

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Speaker 5: Be grocery shopping, cooking food pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Well, like you can only eat out

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Speaker 5: And I've realized this. I don't work out as.

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Speaker 4: Well on the road as I do in my home gym,

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Speaker 4: the other hand, it's like, well, what have I been

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Speaker 4: So oh yeah, that was look that nobody and I

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Speaker 2: I think that seems about right. It seems to have

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Speaker 4: That makes sense, unreal moment I was in there too,

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Speaker 4: that makes sense. It was as loud because you have

438
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Speaker 4: to understand, and I think this is something that you know,

439
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 4: some people are like, oh, the crowd was whatever.

440
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Speaker 5: The difference in sound in an open.

441
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Speaker 4: Air stadium versus a dome is completely different, and that

442
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Speaker 4: is another thing for our home field advantage in a dome.

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Speaker 5: When you get a dome rockin the sound is just

444
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Speaker 5: coming up and coming back.

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Speaker 2: To you know why, because there's a roof.

446
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Speaker 4: That's right, it's reverberating, so it can't can't escape, can't escape,

447
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 4: that's right, there's a roof.

448
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Speaker 2: There's a roof. That's difference.

449
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: So sound can escape, Snow, rain can't come in, can't

450
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Speaker 4: come in. Sounds like a wind that but to get

451
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Speaker 4: that kind of a pop in an outdoor stadium was

452
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Speaker 4: incredible and it was a great show. I got to

453
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Speaker 4: spend some time with our good friend the Miz. Obviously,

454
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Speaker 4: and then he had a monster golf match yesterday with

455
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Speaker 4: with my buddy George Bowenes, two time Brielo champion.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, they have a one on one.

457
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Speaker 4: Bones had got him early in there, and then there

458
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Speaker 4: was a massive one on one rematch that was It

459
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Speaker 4: was being billed as Bones and Mazan and two. A

460
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Speaker 4: lot of hype before it. The night before on the

461
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Speaker 4: the Missic Express. We got to spend some time on

462
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Speaker 4: the mis Express, which is just an incredible bust to

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Speaker 4: Robust that he's on h I mean, he's walking with

464
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Speaker 4: such purpose. Yeah, Bay, I wonder if he wants a break.

465
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Speaker 4: I don't know what he meant break. Yeah, he does

466
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Speaker 4: want to break. Take it anyway, all I got.

467
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Speaker 2: Oh, you can say it. Say it because the coach

468
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Speaker 2: is on the other side. I want to go to detail. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll take a quick time out and then coach will

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Speaker 2: going to be in full pads. It appears my friend

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Speaker 2: and coach is going to be addressing the media here momentarily.

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Speaker 2: This is you were back yesterday for a practice, but

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Speaker 2: now we see the full gear is a part of it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're seeing as the players making their way

486
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Speaker 4: out onto the field right now, full pats and this

487
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Speaker 4: is this is This will be kind of the second

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Speaker 4: day of training camp so far where they've been in

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Speaker 4: full pads and actually had some intensity to it. The

490
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Speaker 4: first day was kind of getting acclimated to being in

491
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Speaker 4: pads at the Greenbrier, just kind of one on ones,

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Speaker 4: individual not one on ones, even individual drills, just getting

493
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Speaker 4: the feeling of run around in your pads again. And

494
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Speaker 4: now these guys are are ready to get after it

495
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Speaker 4: today and I think you're gonna have back to back

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Speaker 4: days here in the pads before the day off Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: then you'll probably not be in pads. Thursday will be

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Speaker 4: my guests before you get ready for the game on Saturday,

499
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Speaker 4: because Thursday will be kind of like a fast Friday

500
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Speaker 4: practice would be my guess. As we see the head

501
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Speaker 4: coach of your Cleveland Kevin Stefanski, who was in attendance

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Speaker 4: at SummerSlam, got to spend a little time with with

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Speaker 4: the coach over it to get taken in the spectacle.

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Speaker 2: That was the WWE I saw him with with Miss

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Speaker 2: and Johnny, which was cool that he came early to

506
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Speaker 2: hang out with the miss before the show. Yeah, that

507
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Speaker 2: was very very cool.

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Speaker 8: Cool.

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Speaker 2: He's headed to the podium right now, and I think

510
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Speaker 2: we'll have a listen.

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Speaker 8: Good question. I don't know, Okay, very good.

512
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 9: Did your extra other people think you'll be able to

513
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 9: stay outside any No such thing as an expert weather

514
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 9: person can't predict the weather, so there may be something

515
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 9: popping through, but it'll be quick.

516
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Speaker 2: What impressed about Jerry on his first ad?

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Speaker 8: You know, kind of full exportation, Yeah, you said it.

518
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 9: Then made some plays, ran a real nice choice route

519
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 9: early in practice, ran that that vertical play at the

520
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Speaker 9: end of practice, so kind of showing his versatility as

521
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Speaker 9: a route runner, but it's early, so getting him there

522
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Speaker 9: and getting him introduced to different concepts at full speed.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, I know it's been a few years now, but

524
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 4: three preacing season games instead of for how does that change.

525
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Speaker 2: The way you approach these games?

526
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Speaker 9: You know, it feels like we've had this the rhythm

527
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Speaker 9: of these games, and we feel strong. The plan of

528
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Speaker 9: how we ramped to the season and getting ready for

529
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Speaker 9: week one last year was a little bit different because

530
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Speaker 9: you had that preseason game with the Jets down there

531
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Speaker 9: and in Canton, so we work.

532
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Speaker 8: Through that, but we feel pretty good about how we ramp.

533
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Speaker 9: Our team up for a week one of the season

534
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Speaker 9: and then in the meantime get them ready for some

535
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Speaker 9: games where we hope that they can go show what

536
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Speaker 9: they can do on the field, not think a lot,

537
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Speaker 9: and really we utilize those as great tools for evaluation

538
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Speaker 9: more than anything.

539
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Speaker 10: Were there have a chance to see your experiential learning

540
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Speaker 10: rooms today, So just how do you think those guys

541
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Speaker 10: will be able to pick things up better on those rooms?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's when you're trying to teach Mary Kay,

543
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Speaker 9: you so often hear us about talk about teaching and learning,

544
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Speaker 9: and we just feel that that's a great classroom for

545
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Speaker 9: the guys to have an interactive meeting, if you will.

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Speaker 9: And you saw it's a beautiful facility. Those rooms in particular,

547
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Speaker 9: we're getting to know them.

548
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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 9: There's so many things that we can do in there.

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Speaker 9: We're really scratching the surface. But an opportunity to not

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Speaker 9: just sit in the old stale classrooms of yesteryear, where

552
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Speaker 9: you can now go in there and and and really

553
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Speaker 9: show the guys that an audio visual that gets there

554
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Speaker 9: really captures their attention. So the guys have responded really

555
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Speaker 9: well to it. But we are still as a staff

556
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Speaker 9: figuring out all the different things that we can utilize

557
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 9: with those rooms in particular. Not me camp, not me.

558
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Speaker 9: It's it's closest to my office. I did not request

559
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Speaker 9: that I have not been in there, I promise. I

560
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Speaker 9: think the specialists kind of have that room on lockdown

561
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Speaker 9: right now.

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Speaker 11: Kevin, as you guys kind of work for who's going

563
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Speaker 11: to play in the preseason possibly and win. How much

564
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Speaker 11: is the new kickoff roles factoring into that? And is

565
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Speaker 11: there a chance like you're gonna play some guys that

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Speaker 11: maybe you wouldn't have a year ago because of.

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Speaker 2: Those rules changes.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that will factor into the decisions Ashley.

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Speaker 9: We'll obviously get a look at it on Saturday night

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Speaker 9: down at our place. We'll get some really good looks

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Speaker 9: at it versus the Vikings here on our practice fields,

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Speaker 9: but that won't factor.

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Speaker 8: Into the decision necessarily. We saw Jordan Hicks walk off yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Is he's not back today. He's dealing with an injury,

575
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Speaker 9: but we'll get him out there soon.

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Speaker 4: Are you concerned about def that linebacker at least for

577
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Speaker 4: the on the short term?

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00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously.

579
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Speaker 9: When you have injuries to our three guys like you do,

580
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 9: those are things that you look at and you figure out,

581
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 9: do we need to bring somebody in or those are

582
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Speaker 9: things we're working through.

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Speaker 10: Do you anticipate anyone back today like Shelby.

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Speaker 9: Or Job or not just yet, but all those guys

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Speaker 9: that are making great progress back to.

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Speaker 2: The cossume for a second. You've been in this league

587
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: long enough. Do you have to find new ways to

588
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: kind of teach these guys.

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00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 8: Especially the younger players. We do.

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Speaker 9: It's something that we spent a lot of time as

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Speaker 9: a staff in the off season, we had a lot

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Speaker 9: of meetings just talking about best practices. And one of

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Speaker 9: the things we talked about and we read some or

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Speaker 9: had some studies presented to us just in terms of

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Speaker 9: the best way to reach in this generation, if you will,

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Speaker 9: we talked about the art of note taking and maybe

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Speaker 9: that's a loss to art and in those rooms, as

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Speaker 9: you see, you're not going to sit there at a

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Speaker 9: desk and take traditional notes, but you're going to be

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Speaker 9: more interactive with your teacher, with your coach in this case.

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Speaker 9: So we're trying to find that balance of there's a

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Speaker 9: lot of information that we need to download into our players,

603
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 9: what's the best method to do that?

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Speaker 8: And I think these are a great start towards that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, is there anything any dange of information overload for

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Speaker 7: you and the coaches with all this stuff?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yeah, that's certainly.

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Speaker 9: We have a finite amount of space in our brains,

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00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 9: a reminder of coaches of that oftentimes, and so we

610
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 9: can't overload ourselves. We can't overload our players because we're

611
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 9: just talking about playing fast hard to play fast when

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Speaker 9: you're thinking, so we do also as you present that

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Speaker 9: information to the players.

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Speaker 8: Part of the nice.

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Speaker 9: Part of this tool that we have now is how

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Speaker 9: it goes to them is maybe easier for them to

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Speaker 9: understand than traditional sit down lecture class so uh, but

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Speaker 9: that doesn't change the fact that you can't just overload

619
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Speaker 9: them with information.

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Speaker 8: I think that's a recipe to play really slow.

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Speaker 11: Kevin Ken trying to figure out the preseason, like what

622
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Speaker 11: his role kind of looks like on game day?

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Speaker 2: What do you envision as well?

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Speaker 8: Look, you m I kind of support you as a partner.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Ken and I have talked about whether he's upstairs

626
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Speaker 9: or downstairs. Might work through that in the in these

627
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 9: three games, initially thinking that we'll he'll start down, but

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Speaker 9: he'll have a huge influence, uh, particularly on game day

629
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Speaker 9: with me and the offense and in terms of what

630
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 9: we're calling, how we're calling it, when we're calling it.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 9: And then the ability to sit and talk to the

633
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Speaker 9: quarterbacks face to face if he's down, but have great

634
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 9: FaceTime with those guys, and then interact with all the

635
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Speaker 9: coaches throughout the the times that our defense is up.

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Speaker 9: I think he can he can do a really nice

637
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 9: job there as well. Is that the choice between up

638
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 9: and down, whether to be face to face with your

639
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Speaker 9: quarterbacks or get that birds eye view that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's used to.

641
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 9: It's we've talked to you really could do it either way.

642
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 9: We're comfortable doing it either way. I want to work

643
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 9: through it, see what he's most comfortable with. We feel

644
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 9: really good about the coaches that are upstairs. If Ken

645
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 9: does think that downstairs is best, if we decide that

646
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 9: that's best, we feel that we have some coaches upstairs

647
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 9: that can be that bird's eye view.

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00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 10: Like you mentioned, every time I look up, I see

649
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 10: Matt Landers making a big play out there. What have

650
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 10: you thought of Matt and what kind of a does

651
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 10: he bring for you?

652
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 9: I think you're right, Mary. Kay's made some big plays.

653
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 9: He made plays down the field, He's gotten behind the defense.

654
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 9: I think he has a good understanding of what we're doing.

655
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Speaker 9: So he's in the right place at the right time.

656
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 9: So excited about him to continue to make some steps.

657
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Speaker 9: And these preseason games will be big for guys like

658
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 9: Matt show what they can do. You know, in a

659
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 9: a setting like it's going to be down there on

660
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 9: Saturday night.

661
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 7: Importance to throwing downfield, even if you don't hit the

662
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 7: malls for.

663
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: Just how the defense has to respect that.

664
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 9: I think so you know what happens in training camp

665
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 9: especially or in practice, especially defenses, you don't have the

666
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 9: same what's the word I'm looking for, same chance. If

667
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 9: you get beat deep in a pre it's not going

668
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 9: up on the scoreboard, right, So you may be a

669
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 9: little bit more aggressive in practice, at least initially. So

670
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 9: you can tend at times on defense to play aggressive

671
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 9: certainly knowing that getting beat is not gonna be six

672
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 9: points per se. So then as an offense, the offense

673
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 9: thinks about taking a shot on that in that type

674
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 9: of setting and to back the corners off.

675
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 8: So that happens in game as well.

676
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 9: I think early in the game sometimes you have corners

677
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 9: that and safeties and linebackers that maybe play tighter to

678
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage or jump routes if you have

679
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 9: a tendency to throw short early in a game. So

680
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 9: that's a conversation where you talk about do we need

681
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 9: to take the top off early to show them that

682
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 9: we're willing to do that. If you have an individual

683
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 9: route to a receiver outside, do you show them early

684
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 9: that we're gonna go deep. So those are all things

685
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 9: that we talk about. It's really based on the defense.

686
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 9: You're playing that week.

687
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 7: How has DTR.

688
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 10: Looked for you and how much how eager are you

689
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 10: to see the competition sort of between him and Tyler

690
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 10: as you get it in this game.

691
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 9: I think it's a great room. I'm really excited about

692
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 9: those guys. I think they're pushing each other. Like you mentioned,

693
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 9: Mary Kay, these games are are are irreplaceable reps for

694
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 9: these guys, So I'm excited for them and it's the

695
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 9: opportunity for them to compete.

696
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 10: Kevin Bercy here just just specifically as has he really

697
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 10: come along.

698
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 9: Since he's done a nice job. We mentioned it the

699
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 9: other day, Mary Kay. I think in year one you

700
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 9: saw him come along. I think you're seeing a similar

701
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 9: jump from year one to year two, and that comes

702
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 9: with being comfortable in the system. Obviously his health that

703
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 9: has been a factor for him, so it to bounce

704
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 9: back and feel really good.

705
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 8: I think that factors into it as well. We're seeing

706
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 8: a lot of Martin Emerson against Amary Koper out there.

707
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 9: How have you seen those two kind of embrace that

708
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 9: matchup and what does that do, especially for Martin to

709
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 9: go against.

710
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 8: Him every day?

711
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, good versus good is always beneficial to both sides

712
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 9: and I've seen some great reps. I saw a great

713
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 9: rep yesterday with Jerry on the outside with MJ. MJ

714
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 9: covered him really well. I shot MJ at text after

715
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 9: I was watching it, you know that was it was outstanding.

716
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 9: So he he pushes the receivers, the receivers push him,

717
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 9: and it only makes you better, not.

718
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 8: Just than Hardy was a receiver at Illinois.

719
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 7: Wondering as you tried to remind.

720
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 8: Coaches of that. Hasn't reminded me of that just yet,

721
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 8: but I'll I'll go.

722
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 9: I'll remind him an exotic plays on special teams and hey, we.

723
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 8: Can draw them all up.

724
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: Out there making some plays this training game. What have

725
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: you seen from Hmden? What are you looking for?

726
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 8: As he's done a nice job. I think we've talked

727
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 8: about Dave the other day.

728
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 9: Just there are quarterbacks like throwing to him. He's dependable,

729
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 9: they know where he's gonna be. He's got good hands.

730
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 11: Uh.

731
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 9: So there's concepts that when you're running them with players

732
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 9: and you have a guy with a high football IQ,

733
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 9: you feel confident letting letting go of the ball because

734
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 9: you and h you and the receiver are kind of

735
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 9: seeing it the same way.

736
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 8: I think that. I think that's how the quarterbacks see it.

737
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 6: With Dave, how do you view the run game right

738
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 6: now as far as just its status, it's you haven't

739
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 6: had many padded practices, you're not tackling to the ground

740
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 6: and things like that.

741
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: Just what are your impressions and thought.

742
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 3: Supports run games?

743
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's like all aspects of our game,

744
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 9: it's a work in progress. Everything we're doing is is

745
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 9: getting ready for a week one of the season. I

746
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 9: think you can cover a lot of ground without being

747
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 9: in pads. So all the walkthroughs that we've had going

748
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 9: back to the spring, all those team periods that they

749
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 9: all count equally. Obviously you get the pads on and

750
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 9: you get to move around a little bit, but we don't.

751
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 9: We're not going live here and we're not tackling to

752
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 9: the ground. We haven't done that in my time here,

753
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 9: So I don't know that that's a necessary thing to

754
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 9: have run game success.

755
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 8: Good, Okay, thanks guys, I appreciate.

756
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: All.

757
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 8: Right.

758
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: There you have at your head coach Kevin Sepanski meeting

759
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: the media. This team will hit the practice field at

760
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: two o'clock sharpish or thereabout the big headline there, I

761
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: think is Jordan Nicks as he's down and so that

762
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: is you alluded to this earlier, better now than September.

763
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: But still there's a lot of that first eleven on

764
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: defense that are down.

765
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: Well you look at it really on both sides of

766
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 4: the football, you know, for the Cleveland Browns in what

767
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: would be you know, you're opening day eleven, there are

768
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 4: quite a few things that are are pieces I would

769
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: say that are missing, right, and so that's one of

770
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: the things that this team certainly needs to get figured

771
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: out as quickly as possible. Get these guys back healthy

772
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 4: because as you kind of look at this ninety right

773
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: now or the twenty two, So your quarterback to Shaun

774
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: he is out there, you're starting running back obviously would

775
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: be Nick Chubb not out there, and Deontay Foreman, I

776
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 4: would say, probably would be your next guy there. And

777
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: you know he was dinged up at the Greenbrier. Fortunately

778
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 4: is okay big picture, but I'm not sure if he

779
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: will be practicing today. That'll be something that we'll look at.

780
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: You got wide receivers. We just got Jerry Judy back

781
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 4: for the first time yesterday, but Elijah Moore didn't practice

782
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 4: right now, it looked like Elijah should be back today,

783
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: and if so, that would be the first time that

784
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 4: all three of those guys have been available in a

785
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: team period.

786
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 2: You do have the chief.

787
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 4: You have not had either of what I would consider

788
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: your starting left tackle Jed Wills or your top backup

789
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 4: tackle Jack Conklin. Haven't seen either one of those guys

790
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: at all. You have seen Botonio, Posik, Teller and Dowan

791
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: that's great. Your number one defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson, we

792
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: have not seen practice yet. You have Zadarius and Miles

793
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: and Obo and Alex right all your defensive ends. Joka

794
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: is currently not practicing, Jordan Hicks is currently not practicing,

795
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: Tony Fields is currently not practicing. Those are your three

796
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: starting linebackers. Not to mention that Charlie Thomas is out

797
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: for the year after suffering an injury.

798
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 5: At the Greenbrier.

799
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: So you're down four linebackers right now, including all three starters.

800
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 4: Greg Newsom has not practiced at all this year, and

801
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 4: so you're without your starting nickel as well. So you

802
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: think about from a defensive standpoint, that's you know, in

803
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: a base set, that's five, but it's probably four of

804
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: your true starters on defense.

805
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 5: Are not practicing right now out of your top.

806
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: Eleven significant Yeah, it's a large number and certainly a

807
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 4: bigger number than anybody would would want.

808
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, just need time, time to heal,

809
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: time to get healthy, and time to get better, and

810
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: that's something that you can't rush that. So hopefully we

811
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: get through this one. This is a full practice, full padded,

812
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: full contact practice that we will see here in about

813
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: twenty minutes, so we will We want to make sure

814
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: that we're locked into that and see how everything's progressing.

815
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: At the same time, this team needs to take care

816
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 2: of itself from a health standpoint, because this is starting

817
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: to really stack up a little bit on that side

818
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: of things. Heading into the preseason debut on Saturday, we'll

819
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: go around the league. Coming up nextuals to Cleveland Browns

820
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821
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822
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00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: at Ohio Business Machines dot calm uh Hall of Fame

829
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: weekend in the books. The McMichael stuff was.

830
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 4: Wow powerful, Yeah, while simultaneously being very hard to watch. Yes, yeah, agreed.

831
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 4: It's kind of the way that I would that I

832
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 4: would put it.

833
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was you know, you you you and

834
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: I experienced that firsthand obviously last year. And and then

835
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: this was a big Bears weekend. I mean, McMichael, you

836
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: had Hester, you had Juli Pepper's there as well, that

837
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: his airness mister Jordan was in the mix. Oh really

838
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: he was, Yeah, I think he was. He's a Hester guy,

839
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: isn't he a Jordan guy? Yeah? Hester shouted him out

840
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: in his speech? Yeah, yeah, And Mike was there. Yeah.

841
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: And from my my Ravens tell me that he was

842
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: at Firestone on on Sunday.

843
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 4: Of course, wouldn't set up well for him, No, very

844
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: long and straight and a lot of trouble on the right.

845
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: Oh he he has a little bit of a cut

846
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: and he doesn't hit it very far. Why his course

847
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: has no trouble on the right and then there's random

848
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 4: crap in the bottle. Yeah yeah, hey fully designed the

849
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: course for his game and penalize better players.

850
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: And why wouldn't you and to hustle you for your

851
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: cashi Michael Jordan.

852
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 5: Of course he's doing it.

853
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Hall of Fame game was Thursday, obviously,

854
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 2: and then the Hall of Fame festivities throughout the weekend,

855
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: and then this week we go so Hard Knocks debuts

856
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: tomorrow I believe. Yeah, so that goes tomorrow, and then

857
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: you'll have your first full slate of preseason games this weekend,

858
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: starting Friday, I believe you'll start to get those. Maybe

859
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: even Thursday is their game, Thursday, Thursday, Yeah, there are,

860
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: in fact, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. I believe you've.

861
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 4: Got let me see, I think you've got a bunch

862
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 4: of games coming up here in the Thursday Friday with

863
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 4: no and I know talking to some of the coaches,

864
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 4: they were pretty excited to get to watch some of those,

865
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: especially you know, Bubba and coach. The fansy to focus

866
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 4: specifically on the kickoffs. Yeah yeah, So Thursday, we've got

867
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: here's the NFL slate, Panthers, Patriots and Lions Giants.

868
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: So two games.

869
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 4: Friday got three more Texans, Steelers, the Falcons, Dolphins, Eagles, Ravens.

870
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 4: That actually would be a pretty solid that's a pretty

871
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: good that'd be a pretty solid Suny.

872
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: Sunday right there.

873
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Thursdays. Yeah, but those are pretty good.

874
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you're you're curious what you know, who plays, what,

875
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: what rookies play, that type of stuff. That's kind of

876
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: where you are. I did think that it was the

877
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: Texans blue looked it was much improved on TV. It's

878
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: really dark. It's almost like, Yeah, it looked clean. Yeah,

879
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: I liked it pretty good.

880
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've gotten the green Bay white helmet since we've.

881
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: Been gone, which oh I haven't even seen those. Oh really, no,

882
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: I saw Yeah.

883
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 5: I like that.

884
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: I like the look of that. Now.

885
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: I made one suggestion for it based on something I

886
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: read from one of the you know, I follow that

887
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: NFL uniform guy on Oh okay, Oh so it's really good.

888
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: But the stripe in the middle of the helmet should

889
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 4: have been yellow.

890
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, and then they needed to have a

891
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 2: little yellow on it.

892
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: There's I gotta pull up for you what I what

893
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 4: I got up up in here?

894
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 8: Yeah?

895
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: I think it just needs a little Oh yeah, they

896
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: needed to have a little yellow. They just need to

897
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: put yell here it is, just put that yellow stripe

898
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: down the middle, right, then you're good. Just take the

899
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: jersey stripe and put it on there and just throw

900
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: the yellow on there. Then you're good. It's because then

901
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 2: it Oh, here's an image of it with it. Somebody

902
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: did it. Yeah where you just yeah, just do that.

903
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: That solves it. Yeah, problem.

904
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: So it's such a better looking helmet with that. It's

905
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: amazing that. It is a very small thing, but it

906
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 4: makes a big difference. And you know that's something that

907
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: they can probably get right as they go forward here.

908
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 5: In the in the future.

909
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a simple fix, simple fix, very simple fix.

910
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: There a couple other things around the league. Justin Herbert

911
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: diagnosed with that. The planner fast shitus is right. What

912
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: he's in a boot. There's the only thing when you

913
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: get that, you just got a rest there's no nothing,

914
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: so you just chill out. You saw Tyreek Hill get

915
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: a restructure of his deal three years ninety sixty five

916
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: guaranteed guaranteed one hundred and six point five or the

917
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: next four which is the most ever for receiver. This

918
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: felt like a reaction to the Wattle deal. Right, yet,

919
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: once Wattle happens, you, yes, kind of had to do

920
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: that one.

921
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 4: And you still know what's gonna happen with brand and Ayuk.

922
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 4: That's kind of the last one that's out there. A

923
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 4: lot of rumors.

924
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: There are a lot of a lot of rumors with

925
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk and well, you know, you'll see. I mean,

926
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: it's I'm sure you ask about everything, right.

927
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: I would be very surprised if he's a Cleveland Brown

928
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: because it just it would be very, very, very very

929
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: surprising to me. Yes, you just restructured a Mari and

930
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 4: guaranteed his money. You have just paid Jerry Judy and

931
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 4: guaranteed his money. You've got Elijah on the last year

932
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: of a rookie deal.

933
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

934
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 4: I don't know that I necessarily see it, because he

935
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: would have to give up assets and then pay correct.

936
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 4: They think they can get maybe it two form, which

937
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: would be wild.

938
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:01,959
Speaker 2: Now.

939
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: My dad's already texted me, said that out there they're

940
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: saying Amari for Ayuk and something. I don't see them train. No,

941
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 4: they love Amari Cooper here and they just restructured a deal.

942
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: They just read the deal. It doesn't make sense to

943
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 4: me either.

944
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, And I continue to be surprised that they wouldn't,

945
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: that they don't make Ayuk work and hold it.

946
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 5: They can't. You know, they can start finding them as

947
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 5: it gets.

948
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Right, But I mean, it's just weird to me that

949
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: they don't. I feel like he'd be part of the

950
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: long term plans there.

951
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: I think that they would rather keep him long term

952
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: than Debo, but they've already paid Debo and I think

953
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 4: Debo's value around the league is under that of Ayuk's

954
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 4: right now.

955
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's the other thing with the Pearceol kids

956
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: not taken to it yet. No, you know, so like

957
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: if you were if you were hoping from their perspective,

958
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: you're hoping he would take off. That hasn't happened.

959
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 5: From their perspective. Are you still under contract?

960
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: Right?

961
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 5: So he'll play this year and then you know they

962
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: can franchise.

963
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: They have a lot.

964
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 4: There are a lot of things that can still be

965
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: done here. The question is going to be whether or not,

966
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: you know, somebody wants to give up an asset and

967
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: get it, because look, the truth of the matter is

968
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: every year the wide receiver draft is loaded. Yes, and

969
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 4: then you can get guys it significantly of supreme talent

970
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 4: at a salary point. That is a big advantage. That's

971
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: why I think the Browns are likely in the first

972
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: round next year. I think there are two positions the

973
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 4: Browns are going to look at now three left tackle

974
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: potentially depending on how this season plays out with Jedwells

975
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: wide receiver, and then the pass rush opposite minds because

976
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: the Darius isn't going to be here forever. Now Alex

977
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 4: Wright is coming on very strong, but he would be

978
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: at that point in the last year of his rookie deal,

979
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: so that would be he would be become expensive as well.

980
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 4: So I think that's where you'll be you'll be looking

981
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: if you're the Cleveland Browns because those are it's those positions.

982
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 5: Quarterback and cornerback. That's what should be drafted in the

983
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 5: first round.

984
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 4: And maybe if there's a stud pass catching titan, but

985
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 4: we've got one, so that's it. Those are the only

986
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: positions that really should be you know, maybe you go

987
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 4: for a defense, the pass rushing defensive tackle, that would

988
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 4: be that's kind of the same. I'll just call pass rusher.

989
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: It's a pass rusher. It's a corner, it's a receiver,

990
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: it's an elite pass catcher, or it's a quarterback. That's

991
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 4: that's really all that the first round is should be,

992
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: and all that it's going to be for for a.

993
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: While unless you're Atlanta.

994
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 7: Uh.

995
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: The Broncos gonna wears a quarterback? Was quarterback this year?

996
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: I guess that's last year. RUA.

997
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: Who's splitting reps by the way fifty to fifty with Algier?

998
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: Oh man, I think Algier's got a higher yards per

999
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: carry average for his career.

1000
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: Then eighth pick in the draft, buddy.

1001
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

1002
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: The Bronco is gonna wear their throwbacks week five against

1003
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: the Raiders, Week eighteen against the Chiefs. Just wear them

1004
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: all the time. Also, Josh Allen wore a Bill's helmet

1005
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: to their blue and red practice, a black Bill's helmet.

1006
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: The Bills have not announcement all they don't need to

1007
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: wear black.

1008
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 5: This looks like the Saskatchewan rough Riders.

1009
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks silly, This.

1010
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 5: Doesn't look like that.

1011
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't color scheme at all. Just wear a red helmet.

1012
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 2: You can do the throwback the Kelly's the Kelly red

1013
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: and then that's I love their white helmets and he's

1014
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: a great white help. Yeah, I don't think I don't

1015
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: think you need a monkey with it at all. All right,

1016
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a quick time out on the other

1017
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 2: side of it, we will be practicing. We'll also go

1018
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 2: one on one with Special Teams coordinator Bubba van Trone.

1019
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1020
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Ballely

1021
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 1: bed Now Live in Ohio, Live from Brown's training camp

1022
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Barrie, Ohio.

1023
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Here again, our Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

1024
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by

1025
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: Ballely Beta Sports betting partner of your Cleveland Brown's. Very

1026
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: happy to be joined by the friend of the show,

1027
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: Brown Special Teams Coordinator Bubbaventchro.

1028
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: Bubba, great to see you man. How you doing.

1029
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: I'm doing well.

1030
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me.

1031
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 5: What's it like being back in Berea after nine days

1032
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 5: at the Greenbrier.

1033
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 7: Oh, it's been great. Our complex, says God, A lot different.

1034
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: That weight room is spectaculars spectacular the weight room. Then

1035
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 4: you got the CARDI on the second floor. You got

1036
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 4: a bandage point for the luminaries up on the third floor.

1037
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 4: I mean it is completely changed this whole area.

1038
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 7: Thank you Jimmy and d and helping me stay in shape.

1039
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 4: It's great, you know. I also thanks UCLA. Right, I

1040
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 4: have a feeling that, yeah, that that trip. This looks

1041
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: very similar to what we.

1042
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 7: See there's out there UCL elements of the uh the doors,

1043
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 7: the doors they go up and stuff.

1044
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great, Yeah, very good. The players seem to

1045
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: like it. Everybody seems to be very happy with that.

1046
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: Was it nice to get in front of the fans,

1047
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: And did you feel like the players got a little

1048
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 4: bit of juice from from being in front of fans after.

1049
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, the Greenbrier.

1050
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: There was really nobody there other than than the team

1051
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 4: getting after the work.

1052
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 7: We have great fans, and whenever you have that open

1053
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 7: pract that first open practice, there's definitely a lot of

1054
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 7: extra juice. I think it'll be even better today because

1055
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 7: we'll be in uh, we'll be in full pad so

1056
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 7: and that's football, right, and that we'll old fans are

1057
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 7: here tomorrow.

1058
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: The fans are back tomorrow.

1059
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying for you as a coach, for sure,

1060
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 4: that's what you need to see, right It Really the

1061
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: only kind of contact we've seen in pad so far

1062
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: came from the one day at the Greenbrier where we

1063
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 4: kind of had some like three on three drills. Yeah,

1064
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 4: getting to the to the pads. You loved what you

1065
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 4: saw that day.

1066
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have another kickoff return period today, so that'll

1067
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 7: be helpful to be able to you know, keep evolving

1068
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 7: with that play and the techniques and the schemes that

1069
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 7: we're trying to get accomplished. So excited for our guys

1070
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 7: to have another opportunity, especially back here in Burria.

1071
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 4: All Right, how much compared to let's say last year

1072
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 4: when it was the old kickoff rule, how much more

1073
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: kickoff time has been dedicated in practice in this lead

1074
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 4: up compared to like a normal year.

1075
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 7: More. Yeah, there's definitely been more. It's a new play,

1076
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 7: and we've all been able to go against each other

1077
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 7: in the spring, so now it's you you're competing. You're

1078
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 7: trying to figure out the techniques necessary to run for

1079
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 7: the schemes you're trying to implement, and like I said

1080
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 7: in the spring, like I've said all along, it's a

1081
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 7: trial and error process. And even with yesterday's practice, you know,

1082
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 7: got a lot of information from what we did in

1083
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 7: that short time and we're going to attack a little

1084
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 7: bit different today.

1085
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: So has it kind of been an ongoing learning process

1086
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: for you? Because it feels like, and this is just

1087
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 4: my observation, and I could be like that you're not

1088
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: seeing that, but it feels like initially it was kind

1089
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: of everybody going and it was almost kind of ten

1090
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: on ten, and now it's almost you have a guy

1091
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: kind of sniper stand back to kind of see where

1092
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 4: they're going and be able to fill that gap.

1093
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have. I would say we've looked at a

1094
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 7: number of different things. We're trying to find the like

1095
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 7: a base way to start and then evolve from that.

1096
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 7: So I think we're just trying to get comfortable with

1097
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 7: the bass play and then I think the more complex,

1098
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 7: the complexity with the schemes will just continue to show up.

1099
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 4: We're not going to see anything in the preseason. I'm

1100
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: not talking about with the Browns, but do you think

1101
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: league wide we're not going to see anybody show anything

1102
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: outside of Pretty Vanilla.

1103
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't think you'll see too many

1104
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 7: complex too many complex schemes or you know, too many

1105
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 7: things that aren't. I would say just I think you're

1106
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 7: gonna see a lot of basic things.

1107
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: You think you see a lot of touchbacks in the press,

1108
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 4: even because nobody wants to show anything, you could.

1109
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 7: I think you could, especially like later in the game,

1110
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 7: second half on, especially because how the preseason goes is

1111
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 7: you're not there's certain games where even when you have

1112
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 7: like joint practices, yep, a lot of times you know,

1113
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 7: your top guys don't end up playing in those games

1114
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 7: because they're getting all the work in the joint practices.

1115
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 5: For sure.

1116
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 7: Same goes with like the first preseason games. Some teams

1117
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 7: won't play a lot of their you know, top guys,

1118
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 7: and then it puts more stress on the backups, and

1119
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 7: those guys are the guys that are playing on teams.

1120
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 7: So I think that you will see some touchbacks, and

1121
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 7: I think that everyone's figuring out the play in their

1122
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 7: practice settings. And like I said, and like you said,

1123
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 7: probably won't see a lot of people showing their stuff

1124
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 7: showing their hand.

1125
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: Is this one in the in the fraternity of special

1126
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: teams coordinators that there's a lot of behind the scenes

1127
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: chatter and everybody's trying to maybe pick brains and everybody's

1128
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 4: saying nope, not saying a word.

1129
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 7: I don't think there's a lot of sharing with the schemes.

1130
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 7: I really don't. Yeah, yeah, I haven't really shared too important.

1131
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 7: I think it can be a game changing play.

1132
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 5: Now.

1133
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 7: There was discussions and conversations with some other guys that

1134
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 7: you're close with, like early on in the process, more

1135
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 7: where you're trying to drill it in during OTAs yea,

1136
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 7: in spring practice, whenever you're not able to go against

1137
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 7: each other, like what were the best ways to do it?

1138
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: Now?

1139
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 7: I think everyone's got their own kind of like you know,

1140
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 7: approach to it.

1141
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 4: I guess how fun is it for you to get

1142
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: to have this? I mean not that the job becomes mundane.

1143
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: It's obviously you new people every year. Oftentimes in special teams,

1144
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 4: you're working with some of the turnover at the bottom

1145
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: of the roster, and that's how guys make this football team.

1146
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: But they have It kind of became about, you know,

1147
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: punt coverage, punt return, some kick coverage, but for the

1148
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: most part, just kick it out of the end zone

1149
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 4: and then how your team actually performed, which you really

1150
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 4: couldn't do much about once they're out there kicking field goals. Right,

1151
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: but now, this is a potentially game changing play.

1152
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 7: It's definitely it's gonna be a game changing play. It's

1153
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 7: gonna affect, it's gonna affect field position, drive start, it's

1154
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 7: gonna affect you know, how many points are scored. Excited

1155
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 7: for the excite for the play, Excited for our players

1156
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 7: to have opportunities, to have more opportunities to make plays.

1157
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 7: And yeah, ready to go.

1158
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 5: What's the returner lineup looking like? Right now?

1159
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: You've got guys that you're you're very comfortab obviously you know,

1160
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 4: I'm a big Pierre strong guy. I like what I've seen. Yeah,

1161
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: but you know, and hopefully we're getting the heme back soon.

1162
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 7: Yes, you're saying so specifically with the kickoff returnment. Both, Yeah,

1163
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 7: kickoff return we wrapped a lot of guys. We want

1164
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 7: to be able to have, you know, death and and

1165
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 7: options back there based on what we're trying to do.

1166
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 7: Pierre is definitely a guy. You know, Jerome Ford has

1167
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 7: done some things. A lot of the young guys have

1168
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 7: have showed up.

1169
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: That's Thrash been.

1170
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 7: Thrash has been solid. He's he's working on his ball handling.

1171
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 7: Didn't do a ton of it in college, but he

1172
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 7: works at it tirelessly. Jalen Darden has shown up. So

1173
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 7: those are like the young kid Amari and Brown.

1174
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 2: Yep, got some.

1175
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 7: Juice like our We like our our depth at that position. Obviously,

1176
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 7: na him. Once he's healthy, he'll be back in the mix.

1177
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 5: And you've just said all along, he's the guy, can run.

1178
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 7: He can go. He ran I mean watching the Olympics now,

1179
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 7: he ran.

1180
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: Ten two yeah, which won That won the women's one hundred,

1181
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 4: and that's like, that's close to Olympic caliber. I think

1182
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: a Maria, you mentioned Brown, I think you ran a

1183
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: ten to four in high school?

1184
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 7: Did he Yeah, yeah, that's moving ten two yeah, like

1185
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 7: he ran that I think at ACC finals he said

1186
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 7: nc ST.

1187
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, m hm, yes.

1188
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 5: I know you're excited to get him back.

1189
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 4: You guys go back to Indy together and so you

1190
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: have kind of that that shared history and experience, and

1191
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: so you know what he's capable of.

1192
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 7: Hard worker, he's doing his darness to get back. He's

1193
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 7: working hit. I see him and Nick NonStop in there.

1194
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: So that's good, all right.

1195
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 4: So special teams is often a path to make this

1196
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: football team. We brought in a couple of guys who

1197
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: are you'd call special teams aces and last year you

1198
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 4: know as Matt Adams and Mike Ford Junior. This year

1199
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 4: Tony Brown, Justin Hardy has gone to the Pro Bowl

1200
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: for his Special teams Sprouse, what's it like when you

1201
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 4: got to get those kind of veterans in here to

1202
00:54:59,000 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 4: really set the tone.

1203
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 7: Those guys have done a great job. They they work

1204
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 7: well with the younger players and bringing those guys along there.

1205
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 7: Both of them are really vocal, Justin and TV. Excited

1206
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 7: to have both of those guys with us. Obviously you

1207
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 7: know other other players on the roster that were excited

1208
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 7: to see in action, you know, yeah, specifically in these

1209
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 7: games are the are the young guys, Yeah, the Bookie Watson,

1210
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 7: you know, Winston Reed. You have a guy my mood,

1211
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 7: Miles Harden, Yeah, my mood. I mean Mamu has been here. Yeah,

1212
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 7: Miles Harden has done some good things for us. So

1213
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 7: excited to see those young guys and then obviously the

1214
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 7: guys that that return. You know, Mamu, you got Tony Fields,

1215
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 7: all those guys were excited excited about.

1216
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 4: When you book you Watson, I mean his story is

1217
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 4: just wild SEC Defensive Player of the Year. Spent a

1218
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 4: lot as much time with the defensive line there as

1219
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 4: he did with the linebackers. And he's a guy that

1220
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: greats beat, incredible tackler, I mean led the SEC and

1221
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: tackling last year. What have you seen from him out

1222
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 4: on the field, especially that imagine it's probably somewhat new

1223
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 4: to him team.

1224
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 5: I don't know he has done that in college.

1225
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, it didn't do a ton of it. Instinctive player,

1226
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 7: does a good job finding the football. Yep, he's a

1227
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 7: smart player. He's picked up the punt protection stuff. Well,

1228
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 7: he's got he shows good footwork on that unit. Yeah,

1229
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 7: so we we like him on the on on that unit.

1230
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 7: He can factor there. He's he's done a solid job

1231
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 7: with the blocking on the in the return game as well.

1232
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 7: So yeah, he's done. He's done a good job. And

1233
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what he he works. He works at it.

1234
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 7: He stays post practice, he works pre practice. He's good

1235
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 7: in the meeting room. No, he's been a he's been

1236
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 7: a positive guy so far.

1237
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's in probably his path to being

1238
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 4: on the field and being on this fifty three And

1239
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: this is a very different Cleveland Browns roster. Being drafted

1240
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: does not put you on this fifty three. It is

1241
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 4: going to be very, very difficult.

1242
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 7: I always say, like the best thing about a deep

1243
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 7: roster is competition brings out the best in everyone. If

1244
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 7: you if you have competition at your position, Yep, it's

1245
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 7: gonna it's gonna bring out the best in you, and

1246
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 7: you're gonna and you're gonna perform to your to your

1247
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 7: best ability, because if without competition, guys can get complacent.

1248
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 7: We have we have a deep roster with at every

1249
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 7: position group. You can go all the way down the line.

1250
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 7: There are more on the defensive side of the ball, especially.

1251
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 7: There are more NFL defensive ends on this roster than

1252
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 7: are spots for There are certainly more NFL defensive tackles.

1253
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 7: There are more NFL linebackers and way more NFL cornerbacks

1254
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 7: than are available to be on this roster. Yeah, Ab

1255
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 7: and his uh in the personnel department have done an

1256
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 7: incredible job of giving us guys to use, and we're

1257
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 7: excited for We're excited to see what they got.

1258
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: I don't know you mentioned some of the young guys

1259
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 4: and one obviously has been here for a few years.

1260
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 4: But I've seen Alex ride out there, and I've seen

1261
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 4: my call out there in some of this kick stuff.

1262
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: What's like having those big bodies back.

1263
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 4: It probably takes you back to your play days when

1264
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 4: you had like wedges and stuff where you need some

1265
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 4: real size out there in addition to the to the speed.

1266
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're trying to get a feel for it. Honestly,

1267
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 7: we're seeing with what these guys can handle and what

1268
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 7: the play looks like with different body types out there.

1269
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 7: So I think that it's just like I said, it's

1270
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 7: a trial and error process with personnel, with with scheme technique,

1271
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 7: So just trying to figure it out and try to

1272
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 7: feel it out.

1273
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 4: My call from just observing him and Zadarius actually made

1274
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: some very positive comments about him yesterday. But he doesn't

1275
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: move like a three hundred pound human.

1276
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 7: Nod And and when when I found out how heavy

1277
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 7: he was, Like, when I knew how heavy he was,

1278
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, when you see him, and especially

1279
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 7: when you see him in fifty one, yeah he looks

1280
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 7: like a big linebacker. Yeah you know, yeah, but he

1281
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 7: moves well, man, he's he's explosive. I watched those d

1282
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 7: line the drills and the one on ones. He's an

1283
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 7: explosive kid, strong. He's definitely a tough kid too. He

1284
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 7: looks like Mike Tyson and he kind of plays like

1285
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 7: my in box.

1286
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 4: Ah, he's gonna be I mean Zidarius that he reminds

1287
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 4: him of Aaron Donald, which is, if that is eighty

1288
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 4: percent true, will be one of the great steals of

1289
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: the draft for the Cleveland Browns.

1290
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: There, let's talk a little bit about the battery.

1291
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 8: Uh.

1292
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 4: Watching Corey bjork as punt up close is kind of

1293
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 4: mind boggling. I know, he everged almost fifty yards upon.

1294
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: He has average fifty yards upon at one point in

1295
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: his career. He set the Browns franchise record in each

1296
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: of the last two seasons. Yep, he absolutely crushes the ball.

1297
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 7: He does. He's strong. And I'll say this too. These

1298
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 7: the specialists that probably don't get enough credit for. You know,

1299
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 7: how hard they train and how hard they work. Those

1300
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 7: guys all do a really good job. I feel like

1301
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 7: every time, like I take a quick break from my office,

1302
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 7: and I like if I walk downstairs, like toward the

1303
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 7: locker room, like I always see Corey on the incline treadmill.

1304
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 7: He's always like doing some type of activity, and he

1305
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 7: and Charge and Dustin and Kay that they have all

1306
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 7: done a nice job.

1307
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 4: How nice is it for you that you know, at

1308
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 4: this point, obviously things can change in the season, but

1309
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 4: that that's really something you don't have to worry about.

1310
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 5: Charlie is a pro, Corey is a pro, Dustin is

1311
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 5: a pro.

1312
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 7: I never worry about anything. However, it is it is

1313
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 7: nice to have a veteran group that you trust. Yeah,

1314
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 7: so that's that's a positive. However, there still needs work

1315
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 7: to be done. Of course, they of course all need

1316
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 7: to continue to improve, and we're not even remotely close

1317
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 7: to where we need to be in any facet of

1318
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 7: our our team and our and our kicking game.

1319
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 4: Yet all the good news is we're not it's early

1320
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 4: and we're still a month away from the season, so

1321
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: we've just got we've just reacon. But it is and

1322
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: you know, this is spending your time here and obviously

1323
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: you know Phil Dawson was here for a while, but

1324
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 4: it's been it's it's been a search journey to feel like, Okay,

1325
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: we have a guy that we're when he goes out there,

1326
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: we're incredibly confident that the ball is going to go

1327
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 4: through the uprights. We've got a long snapper who he

1328
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 4: knows gonna put it in the right spot. We've got

1329
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: a very good holder and obviously when Corny needs a

1330
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 4: pun and he can boom. It's just it's maybe it's

1331
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 4: a nice thing that that's not even a topic.

1332
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, of camp.

1333
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: How about I'll say it that way. No, we're not

1334
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: worried about it. That's a topic.

1335
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 7: That's that's a good way to uh, that's a good

1336
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 7: way to phrase it.

1337
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, house kid coming along because I know it's you know,

1338
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 4: he said up and down and raw talent is all

1339
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 4: there that Clay's there. Yeah, it's just you know, it's

1340
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: he's gone through a lot mentally in a short period

1341
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 4: of time.

1342
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say he's been He's been pretty uh consistent.

1343
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 7: He was had a consistent spring. We start out a

1344
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 7: little slow for training camp. I'll say this, Yesterday was

1345
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 7: the best I've seen him hit the ball since I've

1346
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 7: been here in two years. So he had a really

1347
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 7: good set yesterday. It just looked it just looked good

1348
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 7: off his foot. The kicking session went really well.

1349
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 4: So he's valuable for him to have a guy like

1350
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 4: Dustin Hopkins. That's the Hopkins was drafted in the league

1351
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 4: and didn't kick for the team that drafted him. They

1352
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 4: ended up going to Washington. He's bounced around and now

1353
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 4: he's put himself in a very stable spot. And there

1354
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: are tons of stories like that around the league.

1355
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 7: And I said this last year whenever, you know, we

1356
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 7: made the move for Dustin, and I was asked questions

1357
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 7: about Kate and his future and things like that. Kickers

1358
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 7: sometimes it just takes a little bit longer, you don't,

1359
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 7: you know, and I and I mentioned, uh, you know,

1360
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 7: Carlson with Minnesota. Then the Raiders have Jake Elliott yep,

1361
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 7: and he gets drafted by since he they let him

1362
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 7: go and now he's great, one of the highest pai

1363
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 7: kickers in the league in Philly. So like, sometimes it

1364
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 7: just takes guys a little bit longer to come along.

1365
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 7: And that's really what's with all the specialist positions, especially

1366
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 7: like I mean snapper and punter as well.

1367
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 4: Sure is that a good thing from nom to have

1368
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 4: Dustin like they have. It's gotta I always go back

1369
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 4: to his rookie year. You know, he's drafted and it's

1370
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 4: like you're the guy, there's no competition, You're the kicker.

1371
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 4: He didn't have a veteran to and you know, makes

1372
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 4: a fifty eight yard er walk off winner in his

1373
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 4: first game, and this guy high and then it's it's

1374
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: it's a really the steadiness is something that I think

1375
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 4: comes with age and experience.

1376
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 7: Right, it's another vetter, it's it's it's good to have

1377
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 7: another another player, especially another veteran in the room with

1378
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 7: a set of eys on your on your kicks. So

1379
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 7: rather than it be like a like a coach, you know,

1380
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 7: it's it's nice to have another peer that has a

1381
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 7: lot of experience. Sure, talk through it. Sure, So I

1382
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 7: think that that I think that has helped him. I

1383
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 7: think it will help them, you know, as as we

1384
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 7: continue to keep on, you know, plugging along through the preseason.

1385
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: All Right, I'm gonna open ended question the three things

1386
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 4: that you're most excited to see over the next we'll

1387
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: call it the next three preseason games, or if you

1388
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 4: want to even dial down into the first preseason game,

1389
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: that's up to you.

1390
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 7: I want to see I want to see how hard

1391
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 7: we can play, our effort start to finish, to.

1392
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 5: Challenge out there players. This is coach speaking to you

1393
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 5: through the media. Bring it.

1394
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 7: I want to see us play with physicality, toughness and

1395
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 7: mental toughness because the these young guys are gonna get

1396
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 7: a lot of repsre gonna get a lot of reps,

1397
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 7: and I want to see who can fight through it

1398
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 7: and at the end of the day, who's gonna be

1399
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 7: standing and who you can really count on when when

1400
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 7: stuff gets hard. So I think that preseason you you

1401
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 7: find that out fast, you know, both in practice and

1402
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 7: in the games. Is you know who's gonna really dig

1403
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 7: deep when you need it, and who's gonna who's gonna

1404
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 7: who's gonna show out, who's gonna who's gonna come through

1405
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 7: for you? So that's what I'm really looking forward to

1406
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 7: the most.

1407
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 4: All right, no spoilers, but last year, you know you

1408
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: came up with Miles jumping over the D line.

1409
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 5: Do we have any crazy.

1410
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: Block setups that we should be excited We don't even

1411
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to know what they are. We know

1412
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 4: this secret stuff, but that we should be excited about

1413
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 4: as a fan base for the for the twenty twenty

1414
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 4: four season.

1415
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 7: We should always be excited for for the game plan.

1416
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 7: So I have a lot of confidence and and our

1417
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 7: and our players and the guys we have to to

1418
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 7: scheme with. We have a lot of talent on our team.

1419
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to speak went into existence again when

1420
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 4: you come out after your presser. I'm gonna just throw

1421
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 4: out a crazy idea and hopefully it'll be the right

1422
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: one again.

1423
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 7: Now of those I mean in the I would say

1424
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 7: this a testament to our team and our players for

1425
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 7: being open minded for everything that me and Bravo want

1426
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 7: to want to do for our team. And we don't

1427
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 7: have any you know you've been you know you're on

1428
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 7: some teams where you know the buy in for the

1429
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 7: kicking game is not as high as you would want

1430
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 7: it to be. At times, I would say here, no

1431
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 7: matter who I asked to do or what I asked

1432
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 7: them to do, that everyone is willing to do it,

1433
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 7: and they and they give it their best and they're

1434
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 7: and they're and with effort also, So I think that

1435
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 7: that's a good thing for our team.

1436
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 4: That's what it takes, right. I mean, you need everybody.

1437
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a long season. There's gonna be a

1438
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 4: lot of ups and downs. You need everybody run in

1439
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 4: the same direction and bought in so that you can

1440
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 4: overcome the adversities. That no doubt you will face yeah

1441
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: and have a successful season because the team is. You've

1442
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 4: been around very good teams, I know you have. Yeah,

1443
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 4: this is a good team. Yes, it's a good roster.

1444
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: It is.

1445
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 7: And I will say this too, like Kevin does a

1446
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 7: tremendous job of like getting that message across to our players,

1447
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 7: like everything is about the team, like everything, meetings, practice, availability,

1448
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 7: like everything, everything is about the team. We break everything

1449
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 7: down on team like that's that's what we do, and

1450
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 7: everything is geared at that. I mean, he always says

1451
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 7: it's the greatest team sport there is, and it is.

1452
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 7: It really is. I mean you could really compare it

1453
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 7: to all the team sports.

1454
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: It is.

1455
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 7: It is a team sport. You cannot win this game

1456
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 7: by yourself.

1457
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 5: So that's what makes it so fun.

1458
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 4: It's there's the chess match to that, and there is

1459
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 4: the fact that you could call is on put it

1460
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 4: on offense.

1461
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 5: You could call the.

1462
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: Absolute perfect play.

1463
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if one guy on the line, let's say,

1464
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: misses his block even though the receiver is opened by

1465
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 4: forty yards of ball never gets to him on a

1466
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 4: kick return, you could have one block that doesn't get

1467
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 4: made or one guy that needs to be in a

1468
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 4: certain gap that isn't And that's the difference between a

1469
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 4: kick going to the house stopping it for us, or

1470
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 4: you know, vice versa.

1471
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 5: So it is usually special.

1472
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 7: Usually when you have really good plays, it's not just

1473
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 7: because of one player. It's because everyone does their job.

1474
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 7: That's the thing I've stressed to your job. Do your job.

1475
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 7: That's a Belichick used to tell me.

1476
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: That's right.

1477
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 7: To your job, and trust that everyone else is going

1478
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 7: to do theirs.

1479
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 4: What Rabel used to tell you, He said he would

1480
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 4: take you out as a as a young player in

1481
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 4: New England.

1482
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 5: He did take care the fun having him around.

1483
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 7: He's been phenomenal. He's really helped me a lot.

1484
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 4: I feel like now last year I would say there

1485
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 4: was only one coach likely to put on a helmet

1486
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 4: and try to get out a field.

1487
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: It was you.

1488
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: Now I think there are two.

1489
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 7: So we actually we installed our hands unit today in

1490
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 7: the meeting. And so when we played in New England,

1491
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 7: he was we designated a back then we designated.

1492
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 2: A recovery like a ball guy. Yeah, he was the

1493
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: ball like.

1494
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 7: He was a defensive yeah, really outside linebacker and right

1495
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 7: three for sure, and sometimes tight end.

1496
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1497
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 7: He has like ten catches for ten touchdowns or something

1498
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 7: like that. But anyway, he was like our recovery guy.

1499
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 7: Like back in we had some we had some dudes. Now,

1500
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 7: yeah we have a really good team. But he was

1501
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 7: Michael's our guy.

1502
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1503
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 4: Okay the ball wasn't They weren't taking it away from him? Yeah,

1504
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 4: that's awesome. Yeah, matter having fun. Man, Thanks for coming by.

1505
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 4: Excited to see everything that happens with your unit because

1506
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 4: I feel very comfortable. I know our fans do as

1507
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 4: well that in an evolving Special Teams landscape, we're very

1508
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 4: lucky to have you lead in the charge. So thanks,

1509
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 4: appreciate it. All right, man, we'll be back more. Cleveland

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1528
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 5: It is a humman.

1529
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 4: Although there are quite a few people not practicing today.

1530
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 4: Greg Newsom nahem Heinz, Nick Chubb, Deonta Foreman, Jed Wills,

1531
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 4: Jack Conklin, Shelby Harris Dalvin, Tomlinson, to Fields, Jeremiahuzukormo, Wyatt Davis,

1532
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 4: Jordan Hicks, Michael Dunn, and they Anthony Bell. So a

1533
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 4: big list there. They are right now engaged in some

1534
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 4: a team portion and the backup defensive ends were having

1535
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 4: their way with the backup offensive tackles. Deshaun Watson now

1536
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 4: under center, just had a nice one out of the

1537
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 4: shotgun kind of that inside zone RPO throwback screen. We

1538
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: saw two of those already, one side of Darden, the

1539
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 4: other one back to Cedric Tillman.

1540
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: That worked well.

1541
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 4: Now a little toss to Jerome Ford getting out there

1542
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 4: and the Browns pursuing it. Chris Williams number ninety eight

1543
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 4: out of Wagner's actually had a nice camp. Unfortunately for him,

1544
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 4: he's in a defensive tackle room where I'm not sure

1545
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 4: it would matter how good he would be for him

1546
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 4: to make the team. I don't think he It feels

1547
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 4: like a very long shot. But he was very disruptive

1548
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: at the Greenbrier and made a nice play on that one.

1549
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 4: But he's one of those guys. This defensive line has

1550
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 4: just been They are relentless, especially in these team periods,

1551
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 4: getting after the quarterback, and it really doesn't matter if

1552
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 4: the Browns first line is out there. You know, Dwan Jones,

1553
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 4: I don't think he's given up anything. He's been dominant

1554
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: and letting everybody know about it. But other than that,

1555
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 4: this defensive line is just so tough and they come

1556
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 4: in waves.

1557
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: Now, there there's two ways to look at that, and

1558
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: it could be a little bit of both. There's an

1559
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 2: interception right there is Yeah, that was DeShawn on the pick.

1560
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 5: Yep, there, Devin Bush got the pick there.

1561
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 4: I couldn't tell if that one was tipped because or

1562
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 4: if it was a miscommunication because there was no one

1563
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 4: in the area. No on that way, miscommunication a little bit.

1564
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 4: It's good for Devin Bush. Devin Bush, former first round

1565
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 4: pick out of Michigan. Obviously, Yeah, one hundred tackles as

1566
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 4: a rookie, was gonna be that next great Steelers Mike linebacker.

1567
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 4: And then in his second season back in twenty twenty

1568
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 4: against US Week five tears is acl was a full

1569
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 4: time start of the two years after that after he

1570
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 4: came back. But you know, last year found himself trying

1571
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 4: to make a team in Seattle. Did played a little

1572
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 4: bit more special teams and now he's you know, battling

1573
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 4: for this Browns team and all they I tell you

1574
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 4: right now, his best ability is his availability because linebackers left.

1575
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 4: No Charlie Thomas is on on I R. We mentioned

1576
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 4: on Tony Field's out, j ok out, Jordan Hicks out.

1577
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 4: So that's your top linebacker. So he's getting a chance

1578
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 4: to work with the ones, probably alongside my mood Diabat,

1579
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 4: who's had a very nice camp as well. Uh, and

1580
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 4: then I didn't realize Nathaniel Watson's nickname was Bookie, which

1581
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 4: is also was his dad's nickname as well.

1582
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 2: So that's a nice book. I book that works out

1583
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: pretty good.

1584
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I know I know a few people whose

1585
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 5: nickname was Bookie.

1586
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were practicing some of the park arts.

1587
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 2: They were, yes, they were. How look, I mean we

1588
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: can sit here and say, hey, it's early August, but

1589
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 2: this is this is a little concerning this, this amount

1590
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: of injuries. My friend, a team that when you think

1591
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: about last year, it is that the number one story

1592
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: of last season is making the postseason Flacco all of

1593
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,759
Speaker 2: the game With that that the number or two headline

1594
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,839
Speaker 2: was my god, they were ravaged by injury. I mean ravaged.

1595
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: I mean the subtext to the headline.

1596
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 4: By the end of the year, you were without your

1597
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: starting quarterback, you're starting running back, you're starting right tackle,

1598
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 4: you're starting left tackle. You were without on the on

1599
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 4: the defensive side of the ball, I spelled from dtr

1600
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 4: there to a Marie and Brown. On the defensive side

1601
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 4: of the ball, you know, you were down a couple

1602
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 4: of your defensive tackles. You were down a linebacker, you

1603
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 4: were down all your top three safeties, right, I mean

1604
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 4: it was it was wild. It was a wild scene.

1605
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, you'd rather have it now than than later.

1606
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 4: But you know, it's interesting. For example, a guy Michael

1607
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 4: Dunn being hurt, that creates an opportunity for Javon Cohen,

1608
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 4: who has played very well on drafted free agent out

1609
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 4: of the U at the guard position, working alongside Zach Zinter,

1610
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: you know, Whippler out.

1611
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 5: Good tender has looked very good. The interior of our

1612
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 5: line is looked good.

1613
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 4: Ziner has been good, Cohen has been good, Whippler's been

1614
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,680
Speaker 4: good with that second team. Really, the issue has been

1615
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 4: at the tackles, where you've got a couple of guys,

1616
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 4: you know, Jermaina Fetti, who was a former you know,

1617
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 4: first round pick. Yeah, been in the league for a

1618
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 4: long time, but hasn't been a starter in a few

1619
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 4: years for a reason. Akima Dnegy was the guy that

1620
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, the Browns players I think salivated when he

1621
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 4: was on the field trying to protect Joe Burrow.

1622
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 5: But he was on the line that you know, ultimately

1623
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 5: that they played in the.

1624
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: Super Bowl for them.

1625
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 4: So it just they've they've had some struggles and that

1626
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 4: tackle position right now is the one thing that is

1627
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 4: you know, with it left, it would keep me up

1628
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 4: at night. Yeah, right, tackle you feel great about, but

1629
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 4: just tackle depth in general. You know, we still don't

1630
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,799
Speaker 4: really know what has happened with you know, Jack Concklin.

1631
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 4: We haven't gotten any kind of an update on that.

1632
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 4: And he was a guy that you thought he was

1633
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 4: good to go coming out of the off season and

1634
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 4: then we haven't seen him at all.

1635
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: And the guy has a b and Kevin been asked

1636
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: about him or they're just I don't know that they have,

1637
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,759
Speaker 2: have they what did they say? Nothing?

1638
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't it nothing really. I mean we

1639
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 3: saw we saw Jack the first day of camp at

1640
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 3: the Greenbrier, and I'll be honest, I hadn't seen him since.

1641
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1642
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's two Yeah, in a while, it's a couple

1643
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: of weeks, a couple of weeks.

1644
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 5: We appreciate your honesty.

1645
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I'm being honest. If I'm being honest, are

1646
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: you I am? That was a big that was a

1647
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: big catchphrase for people like fifteen years ago. I'm being

1648
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: honesty right now.

1649
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 5: The rest of the time, are you lying? That's what

1650
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

1651
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 4: That phrase it yep, So all the rest of the

1652
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 4: conversation we have, if you haven't so right, it makes

1653
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 4: me feel like this one time.

1654
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna tell.

1655
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 4: Me unless you give that I always assumed you're being honest. Right,

1656
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 4: If you have the caveat it that you are now

1657
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 4: being honest, then I'll be honest with you.

1658
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 5: Calls into question your previous honesty.

1659
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: Well, the rest of the time you're lying, I don't understand.

1660
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 4: So then Jed Wills, Jed Wills, we have seen on

1661
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 4: the side, we have not seen on the old yet.

1662
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 4: And this is you know, to say that it is

1663
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 4: a what is that monster year for Jed years? Jed

1664
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 4: Wills is an understatement of epic proportions. I mean his

1665
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 4: why what what is he is in the last year

1666
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 4: of his rookie No, no, no, no, no, no, that part.

1667
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 4: I know what injury is precluding him from practicing. He's

1668
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 4: still coming back from the knee injury. I think it

1669
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 4: was an MCL that cost him the end of the season.

1670
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 2: When did that happen? When did that injury happen? So

1671
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 2: he played let me go to my obviously wasn't there

1672
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: at the end.

1673
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 4: Let me go to my handy dandy notes for you

1674
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 4: here and the UH I want to say he played

1675
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 4: in eight games last year, so midway through the season.

1676
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 5: Midway through the season, so Jed Wills UH.

1677
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 4: Twenty three limited to eight games, had it there we

1678
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 4: go just placed on injured reserve to to an MCL

1679
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 4: knee injury, you know. And look, his eight games weren't great.

1680
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 4: Three sacks, twenty nine pressures. If he had played seventeen games,

1681
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 4: he would have led the team in pressures allowed by twenty.

1682
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 4: He had some catastrophic mixed blocks, which one to the

1683
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 4: Conklin injury. Another led to the sax strip fumble that

1684
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 4: cost the game in Pittsburgh. He was on pace for

1685
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 4: twelve penalties last year, which would have been third among

1686
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 4: all tackles in the NFL. He was ranked sixty eighth

1687
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: out of eighty five tackles at Pro Football Focused seventy

1688
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 4: second out of eighty five and pass blocking efficiency, I mean,

1689
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 4: it was it was a rough, rough year for him,

1690
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 4: and it's been a couple seasons since we've seen him

1691
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 4: look like a guy that could be, you know, worthy

1692
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 4: of a new contract in Cleveland, and I think for him,

1693
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 4: you know, you're looking with the money, Tristan wurf Scott,

1694
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 4: you look at the money Andrew Thomas has gotten and

1695
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 4: now Beckedon it hasn't worked out for in that draft.

1696
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 4: But if you're Jed Wills, you know you need to

1697
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 4: come out and almost play at a Pro Bowl level

1698
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 4: to secure you know, your spot in this organization or

1699
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 4: a priority spot in any other and secure kind of

1700
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: you know, unlimited wealth for your family going forward.

1701
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: This is a monstrous year. I mean there is a

1702
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 2: lot riding on it.

1703
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 4: And it's interesting because it was an MCL and he

1704
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 4: had to have surgery that shut down the season, but

1705
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 4: we still haven't seen him. I mean, it wasn't like

1706
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 4: this was an ACL or reconstruction any of that.

1707
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: No, And that's you know, that's a half eight. I

1708
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: mean that's October. Well there was, and there was a

1709
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: time where we thought he was going to come.

1710
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 5: Back in the season and shutting him down right.

1711
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it was it was there one day

1712
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,560
Speaker 3: and gone the next. By the way, Miles is participating

1713
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 3: in this drill, first time we've seen him in the

1714
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: team drills.

1715
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: And his first play was three plays ago. And it

1716
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: was a quote sack of San Watson.

1717
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, just blew right around the one edge because

1718
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 4: he was he got around James Huts.

1719
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 5: That's a that's a tough matchup.

1720
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: That's not going to go well for mister Hut at all.

1721
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: Now that this is a WES, I don't know. You

1722
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. I assume both Conklin and

1723
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 2: Wills would be good to go at camp. Yes, well,

1724
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 2: I think we all thought right.

1725
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 4: Something clearly, something clearly happened with Jack Conckland because he

1726
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 4: had put out social media posts saying that he was

1727
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 4: back and ready to go, and then that never materialized

1728
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 4: at the Greenbrier.

1729
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 5: So certainly wish him a speedier cover.

1730
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: The guy he has.

1731
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 4: He can't catch a break. I mean, no, he's constantly

1732
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 4: getting hurt in not his own fault either. I mean

1733
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 4: that's what I think could be even more frustrating if

1734
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 4: you're Jack Conklin is he got leg whipped basically last

1735
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 4: year on nothing to do.

1736
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: With nothing to do with him.

1737
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 4: But that's a position that concerns me because folks, the

1738
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 4: reality of the situation is there aren't good tackles available. No,

1739
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 4: there aren't enough good tackles in the league period, and

1740
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 4: if somebody has a good tackle, they are not available.

1741
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: No, Nope, there's nobody there. And you had what what

1742
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: you had was a if there wasn't It was if

1743
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: there was someone who wasn't all the way ready. There

1744
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: was a belief that Bill Callahan, I mean, he was

1745
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: a he's a master. He's a master. He's a master.

1746
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 2: Not to suggest that, but you know, you're just not

1747
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: Bill Callahan yet, right, And so like with it was like, okay,

1748
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 2: like we can make this work, do you hope?

1749
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 5: And Dickerson can can carry that up if.

1750
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: This continues, I mean, this is kind of a silly

1751
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 2: conversation to have in August. But if this continues and

1752
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 2: there continues to not be availability at the tackle position,

1753
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 2: is everything on the table? Do you consider Dewan? I mean,

1754
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: he's so good at right, But then that's so then

1755
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: you got a problem on that side. What I want

1756
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 2: to come back to in the point of the question,

1757
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: was you mentioned how strong we are in the interior.

1758
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: Is there a possibility to take one of those guys

1759
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: and move them out?

1760
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 4: So I think we know that we saw Joel Buttonio

1761
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 4: play as an elite tackle. Yes, that was back in

1762
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. Yeah, he's older now, sure he's battled

1763
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 4: a back injury.

1764
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1765
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 4: How much he would like to be out on the edge.

1766
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 4: I would guess very little. So my guess is that

1767
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: that probably is not an option now that Dewan one's interesting.

1768
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 4: For example of say, like Conckland was back now, Conckland

1769
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 4: did play left tackle at Michigan State. Yeah, he's played

1770
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 4: a bright tackle in the NFL, two time first team

1771
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 4: All Pro. I always thought though, if we were going

1772
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 4: to see Dewan Jones take some reps at left tackle,

1773
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 4: we'd be seeing it now, Like if that was something

1774
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 4: that was it felt like it was in the cards.

1775
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 4: Now would be the time to do it right because

1776
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 4: we don't even you don't have your starting left tackle

1777
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 4: that we have not seen that at all, not one bit. No.

1778
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it ain't good. It ain't good kids,

1779
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,679
Speaker 2: to say the least. Hey, get your Cleveland brown single

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1782
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1784
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Speaker 2: of the quarterback rankings from PFF and also from ESPN

1785
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 2: and continue to keep you updated on what's going on

1786
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 2: here at practice. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on

1787
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:53,719
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1788
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally

1789
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: bed Now Live in Ohio, Live from Brown's training camp

1790
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Barrie, Ohio.

1791
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: Here again are Bau Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

1792
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 2: It's Billy Joel and it's Rod Stewart and they're together

1793
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: for the first time ever. It is Friday, September thirteenth.

1794
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,439
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1795
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1796
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Speaker 2: Rod twenty twenty.

1797
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Speaker 5: Four, Billion Rod twenty twenty four.

1798
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 2: Are we official? Oh no, we still have a month

1799
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 2: and change. I thought, well, I'm like, are we inside

1800
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: a month now? Finally, six four weeks of this, six

1801
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: four weeks, Bhilly Joel and Rod Stewart are together for

1802
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 2: one night only. Get a look at this kick return

1803
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: over here. Boy, that would a to the house.

1804
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 4: That's to the barn I mean, between Pierre Jerome, Jalen

1805
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 4: Dard and Jamari Thrash, we've see some big returns and

1806
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 4: it's it's gonna be interesting to see what teams do

1807
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 4: around the league, like are they gonna just kick touchbacks

1808
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 4: in the preseason and not show anything. Are they gonna

1809
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 4: try to get some work on it or not. We'll

1810
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 4: see ab walking with Jeremiahusu Corbo. I'd love to have

1811
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 4: him locked up before we play a game this year.

1812
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 2: I think I'd like that a lot too. I would

1813
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: like that a lot too, to see to see him

1814
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 2: kind of bouncing around. And yeah, I mean a lot

1815
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 2: of this stuff is precautionary, like big picture thinking stuff,

1816
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: and some of this injury stuff is a little bit concerning.

1817
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: Obviously you want to see some some guys get out there.

1818
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 2: But this is a long build.

1819
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 7: Man.

1820
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 2: It's funny when you it's not funny, but when you

1821
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 2: think about, you know, when what week was that when

1822
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: Deshaun went out last year?

1823
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 5: That was it was.

1824
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Actually in it was in the middle of October, No, no,

1825
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: no much late actually in November later than that yet

1826
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: because we beat the Steelers.

1827
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 5: I want to say on Baltimore was the second half.

1828
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: It was in November. It was in November, yeah, because

1829
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 2: thinking you're halfway home, really yeah, with GTR beat the Steelers,

1830
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: that was that was in November because we went from

1831
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 2: that game out to that's right Denver out West. Yeah,

1832
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: and then you guys stayed out.

1833
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 4: We were out there at the beginning of December, weren't

1834
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 4: we give me Yeah, it's funny you think right after Thanksgiving.

1835
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 5: That we went to l A.

1836
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what.

1837
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 4: So that was the week before Saturday. Yeah, so it

1838
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 4: was it was basically second week of November that he

1839
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 4: got hurt. It's pretty amazing. You guys had, like it's

1840
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 4: really like in the last last year, like three vacations,

1841
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 4: three work vacations, two free trips of the Green Drier Greenbrier,

1842
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 4: and a free trip out West Los Angeles.

1843
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm not going to make eye contact with you. He's

1844
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: in a bad spot.

1845
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 5: He's in between two big guys daggers look Island.

1846
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 7: I was.

1847
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: I will not give him satisfaction. I was getting a

1848
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: stone cold steer from the right and give it just period.

1849
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 4: Don't forget. Well, since your count don't forget. We also

1850
01:24:58,640 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 4: had one to Philadelphia.

1851
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: There was a only five day Yeah, ye, those five days,

1852
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: little five hold on it was.

1853
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 3: It was ten days in West Virginia. Four days later

1854
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game, Hall of Fame weekend. We were

1855
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 3: home for five days. Played on Friday night, Saturday was off, Sunday,

1856
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 3: flew to Philly. We were in Philly through Thursday night

1857
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 3: at like three in the morning Friday morning.

1858
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: Good, that's right, that's right. That was crazy. And then

1859
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 2: I died on Friday. That's done. That's a wrap.

1860
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1861
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 3: And then we go to Kansas City to wrap up

1862
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 3: the offs. In the preseason when it was one hundred

1863
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 3: and fifteen on the tarmac.

1864
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: When I would talk to you guys, and I just

1865
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,759
Speaker 2: just like to be that's just so long to be anywhere.

1866
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's so long to be anywhere,

1867
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: and this team benefits from it them, there's no question.

1868
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 2: And you know the coaching staff loves it, you know

1869
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 2: the front office loves it. But it's a long haul

1870
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 2: to be down there that long. Yes, of course, we

1871
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: got some special teams work going on on the far field.

1872
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,679
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks doing some individual stuff here near us. Offensive line

1873
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: is farther south of US far field down there, some

1874
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: luminaries out here taking it all in spirited, spirited, but

1875
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 2: probably much more spirited coming I would imagine hearing this one.

1876
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think, you know, we'll see if we

1877
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 4: get in any one on ones or get in any

1878
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 4: O line D line, you know, things like that where

1879
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 4: you really get to see people get after it. But

1880
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 4: you're right, special team's going on right now, and Bubba's

1881
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 4: so excited. We heard from earlier he's he likes a

1882
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 4: lot of the guys they've got out here, some of

1883
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 4: the guys they brought in, you're getting you're seeing, you know,

1884
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 4: some real dudes playing special teams. And he said that's

1885
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 4: one of the things that he loves about in this

1886
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 4: team right now is that he's getting buy in from everybody.

1887
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 2: And that's what That's what you need.

1888
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 4: You need to have good teams where people are you know,

1889
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 4: open to not only playing on special teams, but being

1890
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 4: you know, making plays for you on special teams.

1891
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,839
Speaker 2: So far, we haven't seen really much with the kickoff,

1892
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: and I think you're that's interesting. I probably agree with

1893
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: what you said, Like most people probably just kick it

1894
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: deep and then you're just gonna save stuff for the season,

1895
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: just gonna be touchbacks and early on, don't you think

1896
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 2: I get it. I don't know if you'd work on

1897
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 2: too much.

1898
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 4: I don't think people want to show you don't want

1899
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 4: to show what you got because I think I guarantee

1900
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 4: that there are coordinators that think they have certain returns

1901
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 4: that will be touchdowns. Yeah, and so you those You've

1902
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 4: got to be very judicious about the moment that you

1903
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 4: pull that you.

1904
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 2: Can do that once twice, maybe once, and then a

1905
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 2: counter off of it somewhere, and then it's.

1906
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 4: There and then everybody's copying it, and it's yeah, it's

1907
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 4: the whole thing.

1908
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's good. Absolutely. The The the overwhelming thing

1909
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: is big time team here, big time talent. Just needed

1910
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 2: to get healthy and you need everybody for a lot

1911
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: of them participating, and then you're on your way. But

1912
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: you're building towards September. Is is what this is all about, folks.

1913
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 5: That the whole thing.

1914
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 4: It's the balance of being you know, sharp as attack

1915
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 4: by September the eighth, but also being as healthy as

1916
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 4: you could be on September. And I think that's the

1917
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 4: balance that Kevin Stefanski and you know, coaches around the

1918
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 4: league are struggling with to try to do that. So

1919
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 4: we see some luminary conversations that would be very interesting

1920
01:27:59,080 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 4: to eavesdrop on.

1921
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, yes we would, we would. We do see

1922
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 2: some of those out there. All right, we'll take a

1923
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 2: quick time out, so much more to come. You listen

1924
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: to Clear the Runs Daily on eight fifty YESP in Cleveland.

1925
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you by Bally

1926
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: bet Now Live in Ohio, Live from Brown's training camp

1927
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Barrie, Ohio.

1928
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: Here again our box, Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

1929
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: If a car, truck, or motorcycle acts that caught you injury,

1930
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: called the injury lawyers that went entered Oak Ohio for

1931
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 2: a free case review. Hell, come up, sprout, partner of

1932
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Just watching them practice the new kickoff

1933
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 2: yep for the last ten minutes.

1934
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 5: Yep.

1935
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: This thing's gonna be fun. Man, It's gonna be veryly

1936
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 2: gonna be fun. Yeah, it takes them getting used to

1937
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: but the idea of like, you know, twenty grown men

1938
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: staring across from each other then and go and ready

1939
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 2: to get after it is pretty crazy to watch it

1940
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 2: play out. I have for the last ten minutes. It's

1941
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 2: gonna be a scene.

1942
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Speaker 8: Man.

1943
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Speaker 2: I agree, there's gonna be guys that this feels. It's

1944
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 2: gonna feel like they hit an after burner.

1945
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, cause you're gonna guys can get through and

1946
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 4: then they're they're gone. We're getting a little seven on

1947
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,560
Speaker 4: seven right now, and then we're gonna get a O

1948
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Speaker 4: line D line, which you always like see a little

1949
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 4: one on ones over there. That's always fun tape to watch.

1950
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Speaker 4: Ninety five in there, ninety five he's over.

1951
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Speaker 3: There now, that'll be interesting because Dawan Jones wanted everybody

1952
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 3: at the Greenbrier. He's like, I don't care if you're

1953
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: defensive tackle, defensive end, I want you. And then at

1954
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Speaker 3: one point he looked over at Myles was like, when

1955
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Speaker 3: you come back, you're next.

1956
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Speaker 2: Good for him. Oh, let's go big, Thanos. Let's go

1957
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 2: baby big. Next level is gonna have you covered. They

1958
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Speaker 2: are two are right and ready to roll. We are

1959
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Speaker 2: back tomorrow. Thanks for listeningybody, Cleveland Bron's Daily, eight fifty

1960
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1961
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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

1962
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