1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: This mom Wazzle, Jake Stacy Rosst and Dave Wiman. Glad 2 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: to have Dave back with us. Glad to be doing 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: the huddle as we will be every single Thursday from 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: here to eternity. Now, I'm just kidding till the end 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: of the season anyway, got a lot of great stuff 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: coming for you this season. Today we'll be catching up 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: with John Boyle of Seahawks dot Com, Andy Bunker our 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: erstwhile colleague down in Atlanta. Ray Roberts joins us right 9 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: after that, then Steve Rabel, we'll hear from Dan Quinn, 10 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: and then our Seahawk guest today will be Quandre Diggs. 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: That will be at one thirty uh so, and then 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: maybe Freddie Swain also at one forty three. Two hours 13 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: of greatness. Here to have Dave Wyman with us. Dave, 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: we've been talking a ton about the season expectations, whether 15 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: or not this team is better at least on paper. 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: What have you guys been talking about on your show 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: regarding those issues. Well, I'll tell you what. We're no 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: longer talking about Jadavian Clowney. So that's a huge relief 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: and we can put it for you our focus. Yeah, 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: we can put our focus into this team that they 21 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: do have. But yeah, I mean we did our predictions 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: and you know, and I went thirteen and three, Jim 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: thought eleven and five, Bob was in the middle with 24 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: twelve and four. I just think they're they're a much 25 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: improved defensively team. And you know, just and it's not 26 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: just the couple of additions, you know, the few additions 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: like Bruce Irvan and Jamal Adams of course, and Quandree 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Quentin Dunbar, but it's also the development of 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: other guys. You know, a guy like Marquise Blair can 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: make a huge difference. So and then on offense, you know, 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: I just I think if they stay he I mean, 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Chris Carson and Will Disilly to me or two of 33 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: the more important pieces in that offense, and Russell just 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: gets better. So I feel like that. And then you know, 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: you look at I know, Mike Sando had brought this up. 36 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: You look at the best quarterback that they'll probably face 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: this year is what Dak Prescott, maybe Matt Ryan, depending 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: on how you look at those guys. So, you know, 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: playing a couple of fairly week conferences, But you know, 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: and I think and I think that they always match 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: up well against San Francisco, So yeah, it looks really 42 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: good to me. But Tom, it's so hard to tell. 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been out there at almost every practice 44 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: and they look good, they look really good. They look different, 45 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: but you just can't tell until you put them out 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: there against someone else. So everyone's in the same boat. 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: But it's going to be one of the more interesting 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: first couple of games because you know, a lot of 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: people not knowing what to expect from one another. Dave, 50 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm curious to get your thoughts on this because I 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: was telling Tom and Stacy yesterday that if you could 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: have any week one upon own it that you're going 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: to face and not have preseason games here in the NFL, 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: that probably the best matchup that you could ask for 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: if you're the Seahawks is the Atlanta Falcons because of, 56 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: at least from the offensive perspective Seahawks offensive perspective, you 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: have great familiarity with this defense because is essentially the 58 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: same thing that you've seen in all practice long, in 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: all training camp. What are your thoughts on that. Yeah, 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because I think the other way. 61 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: I think, well, it's probably less of an advantage because 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: I think what's gonna look so different is going to 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: be the defense. But I feel like dan Quinn's the 64 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: one guy that can probably imagine what they're gonna do with, 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: you know, all the new pieces. So but you bring 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: up a good point about that defense, and that's where, 67 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, look, their strength, I think is their offense. 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: They've got Matt Ryan, Julio Jones, they have an offensive 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: line with all first rounders, and really the one guy 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of the newbie is Chris Lenstrom, Who's the 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: guy they draft, and he played in four games last 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: year and they won all those four games. So um, 73 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: but their offense really is what it's about, and them 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: attacking our defense and trying to kind of guess, you know, 75 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: how Pete's gonna use Jamal Adams and whether they're gonna 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: play Nickel, I mean, are they gonna play bass? I mean, 77 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: if you look at the film last year, you wouldn't 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: really be able to determine anything. So um, yeah, it's 79 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: a I feel like dan Quinn probably has at least 80 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: an idea of what they're gonna do defensively, but I 81 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: should look at it your way, Jake, more more positively. 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: I've been looking at it more negatively. Well, you're you're 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: talking thirteen and three. Yeah, I don't have all the 84 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: positivity flowing through. Yeah. Well, and I think this is 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's they're gonna win this game. 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: Um So, it's not one of the ones I had. 87 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: I had them losing to Dallas. I think Arizona at 88 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: home is always they seem to get snake bit and 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: then at Los Angeles them losing those three games against 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: the Rams. Um So, but yeah, I just I think 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: they're they're too good, they're too different. Defensively, I think 92 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: the pass rush is going to instantly be fixed because 93 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: not because of necessarily the personnel that they got, but 94 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: just because of the coverage that they're going to play behind. 95 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: It said, there's a million times on our show, I 96 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: don't remember a coverage sack last year. There was never 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: a time where like, oh yeah, they covered them so 98 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: well that they were able to get home. So that's 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: what I think is going to be the big difference. Dave, 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: what is your thoughts on the run defense? Everybody focuses 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: on the pass rush this and that. My concern is 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: really the run defense right now, when you look at 103 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: the interior of this defensive line. I love jarn Reid, 104 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: I love Poona Ford. They only have three defensive tackles 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: and obviously they're gonna ask Rashime Green and LJ. Collier 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: to slide down and play that defensive tackle role throughout 107 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: throughout the season, throughout the game. Do you think that 108 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: it's an issue or do you think that they're gonna 109 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: really respond and play well or those circumstances, Well, I 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: think it's an issue. I mean, they have a long 111 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: ways to go. I mean, look, they were they weren't 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: good run defensively last year, and you know, it was 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: just it was kind of interesting. And you know, there's 114 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot of talk last year about them playing two gap, 115 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: which really means you know, a head up on a 116 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: guy and you're going to control either side, and that 117 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: they were kind of trying to keep some of the 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: blockers off of Bobby and they weren't playing as aggressively 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: up front as well, and you know, that's kind of 120 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: what it looked like at times. But you know, I 121 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: feel like the times when they were really good against 122 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: the run, like they held San Francisco in that Money 123 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: Night game under a hundred yards and that was a 124 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: that's a good running offense. They were more aggressive. They 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: were more guys getting in gaps and not shooting through, 126 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: but at least, you know, controlling just one gap, and 127 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: that allowed the linebackers to be a little bit more aggressive. 128 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I feel like they they've taken a step enough. Like LJ. 129 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Call Callier you mentioned, you know, I think Jared Reid 130 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: is gonna and this is really key. He has to 131 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: play up to that, to that contract, and he has 132 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: to play up to the ten and a half versions 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: ten and a half sack version of jarn Reid, not 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: the two sack version that we got last year. So 135 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I think that those guys have developed enough so it'll 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: it'll definitely be better. But it's it's a good question. 137 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking a lot about past defense and 138 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: the back end of this defense, but you know, you've 139 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: got to be able to stop the run first. And yeah, 140 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: the d tackle situation is they're pretty light in there. 141 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: But like you said, I think LJ. Collier, he looks 142 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: so powerful, he's such a different player this year that 143 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: they can move him down inside and he can still 144 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: get that done. That way, they get you know, a 145 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: good rotation going. Did what you see from Jaron Reid 146 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: and Camp make you think he could get back to 147 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: that twenty eighteen form. Yeah, I mean, first of all, 148 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, if you look at what 149 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: has happened, a lot of times people think, well, he 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: got the big contract. Now. I remember the first time 151 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: when Cam Chancellor renewed his first contract, I thought that 152 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: that's a lot for Cam. He totally played up to 153 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: that same thing with Tyler Lockett a couple of years ago. 154 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, everybody thought, wow, eleven million for him. I mean, 155 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: that's looking cheap now. So I just think I believe 156 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: players have a tendency to play up to where they are, 157 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: and I think he got that kind of showed him 158 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: the respect, and then now I believe he's going to 159 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: play accordingly. Remember this guy was like the he was 160 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: the top dog in that Alabama defense that was so good, 161 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: and then he comes in here and kind of had 162 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: to go to the bottom of the pile for a while. 163 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: But he's he's a leader, and I think he's going 164 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: to play up to that. But it does have to 165 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: do with him. I think a lot of what goes 166 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: on in that D line. Jarren Reid has to be 167 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: that kind of player. This year. You mentioned you were 168 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: out at every practice this year. Was there anything that 169 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: just jumped out to you as being significantly different in 170 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: terms of the energy out there, the way they ran things, 171 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: anything different? Yeah, it really defensively, and maybe Jake'll agree 172 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: with me. Although Jake, I remember the time we were 173 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: out there, it's not Here's what it was. Tom. It's 174 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: the first time since twenty thirteen where I've seen the 175 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: defense win seven on seven. You know, the Skelly battle 176 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: between you know, the receivers, running backs, quarterback and the 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: defense that that drill is meant for the offense to win. 178 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's no pass rush, the quarterback doesn't have 179 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: to you know, get happy feet and move around. And 180 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, the defense was dominant in that drill 181 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: for the first time. We've seen now the defense actually 182 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: win those battles, win those drills. But there was a 183 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: there was a day Jake and I were out there 184 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is the practice where 185 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: Russell was like, Okay, that's enough of you guys, because 186 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: he was dropping dimes everywhere, so he was challenged. But yeah, Tom, 187 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean the defense is so much faster, and you 188 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: know watching Marquise Blair, you know he's running with Philip 189 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Dorset and covering him. I mean, they just they're just 190 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: playing better. And the other thing is if you didn't 191 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: know who Jamal Adams was every practice that I went to, 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: if you were out and saw what I saw, you'd 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: be like, who's number thirty three? I mean, this guy's 194 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: all over the place and he brings an energy like 195 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: he makes sure everybody knows that he made a tackle 196 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: and he made a play. I mean, he's just like 197 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: waving his arms. No, he's down right here, you know, 198 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: making tackles behind the line of scrimmage, picking off Russell 199 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: and taking it to the house. I mean, he's just 200 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: been he's been energizing to that entire defense, and you 201 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: see it gets Bobby fired up and kJ and those 202 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: guys don't really need that, but it's just a new 203 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: level of enthusiasm on that defense. Well, team speed, energy, 204 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: things like that. We talked about it a bunch this offseason. 205 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: We'll talk to John Boyle of Seahawks dot Com about 206 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: that and everything else coming up next. On the Huddle. 207 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to two 208 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Tom Wassell, Jake Heap stays 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: you're off and Dave Well, i'mn't glad to be bringing 210 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: in John Boyle of Seahawks dot Com right now for 211 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: a little discussion. Mister Boyle, how are you? I'm doing well. 212 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: I miss cramming into that tiny room with all of 213 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: you guys. Tho, we miss it. We miss it too, John, 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: we miss it too. Your latest article is up on 215 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: seahawks dot com. You write about game week being here 216 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: with even more anticipation. It's certainly a weird week for 217 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: every team, But is what's the feeling you get from 218 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: talking with players and coaches? Are they preparing any differently? 219 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: You know, I don't think they're preparing any differently in 220 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: terms of their you know, game planning this week, day 221 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: to day stuff. But I think the bigger thing is 222 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: what they've been doing all along and what Pete Carroll 223 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: talked about. He related it to his college experience of 224 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: you're spending your training camp getting ready for a game 225 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: with no preseason games, so it's kind of a different 226 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: ramp up. So to me, that's the bigger thing is, 227 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: you know, have they done everything right to get to 228 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: this point and be ready to go Week one without 229 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: that preseason and then there is that kind of element 230 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: of mystery which makes it exciting because these teams don't 231 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: have that preseason tape of each other. Hey, John Tom 232 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: asked me this question, and I'll ask you. I was 233 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: at nearly every practice. I think you were at every practice. 234 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: But what stood out to you that was different about 235 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: this team as compared to last year. I mean, I 236 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: think you can point to just the defense as a whole. 237 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: You look at the addition of Jamal Adams, who just 238 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: does so many things and we're gonna have to wait 239 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: to see how they deploy him on game day, but 240 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: he's going to be a guy that they used, I 241 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: would think in a lot of unique ways. And then 242 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: adding Marquis Blair into that nickel role that just looks different. 243 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: He looked really good there, So you know, everything is 244 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the defensive line changed quite a bit, 245 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: so to me, it's just that whole defense that looks faster. 246 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: They just look like they're playing at a different level, 247 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: at least in practice. Or have to see what it 248 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: looks like on game day. But I'm really excited to 249 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: see what that you know, looks like John. How much 250 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: pride has this organization had and just handling everything right 251 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: in terms of this unique challenge, this challenge that nobody 252 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: has faced before with COVID. I mean, it's taken a 253 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: lot for obviously a lot of NFL teams have had 254 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: success with it. But how proud is Pete and this 255 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: organization as a whole for the job that they have 256 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: done to get us everybody to this point here, you know, 257 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: opening week one heading into an NFL season, Oh for sure. 258 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, really the whole league deserves 259 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: credit because we've seen that. You know, there's been a 260 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: few positive tests here and there, but the overall testing 261 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: numbers are I think so much better than anything anyone 262 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: could have hoped for. And yeah, as a team, I 263 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: mean I kind of conversation with Pete Carroll about just 264 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: sort of this whole off season and this process and 265 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, thanks for the free plug. People can see 266 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: that on seahawks dot Com later today, but it's uh sorry, 267 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, you talk about the job the 268 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: medical staff have done with you know, Sam Ramston's kind 269 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: of taken over that role of the guy leading the 270 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: charge there and just everything that this team is done 271 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: to keep everybody safe and keep players, you know, not 272 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: just available on the field, but safe off the field 273 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: as well, and doing everything they can to minimize risks. 274 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: So the fact that we're here, I mean, there's an 275 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: NFL game happening in just a few hours tonight, and 276 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: then it looks like the whole league's going to play 277 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: Sunday is quite an accomplishment for the NFL. John, We'll 278 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: see whether or not Pete and Brian Schottenheimer let Russ cook. 279 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: But do you expect the offense to evolve in any way, 280 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: whether it's just more inventive plays things Schottenheimer and Russell 281 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: have been working on this offseason. What do you think 282 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: the offense is going to look like, particularly at the 283 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: beginning of the season. Yeah, I mean, I think there's 284 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of evolution every year with you know, 285 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: just as peakerl always likes to point out, quarterbacks get 286 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: better for you know, pretty deep into their career. And 287 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: then just the fact that it's another it's year three 288 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: of Russell and Shoddy working together. I mean, if you 289 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: look at from their first year together to last year, 290 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson attempted something like eighty more passes from twenty 291 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty nineteen. So I do think it's reasonable 292 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: to think, you know, that he's not gonna suddenly lead 293 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: the league in attempt, So you know, it's reasonable to 294 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: think he might throw the ball a little more. They 295 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: might lean on him more, with especially the weapons they 296 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: have as good as DK metcalf is. Look this camp. 297 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: You know what Greg Olson brings and you know, a 298 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: healthy world disaly. I think this offense will change a little. 299 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: You know, they've talked about the tempo. Maybe there's ways 300 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: to go up tempo more often and take advantage of that. 301 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: So look, are they going to abandon the run? No, 302 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll still wants balance, which doesn't necessarily mean equal 303 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: passes and carries, but the threat of a run and 304 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: the ability to run the ball when you need to. 305 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is you know, I think we all 306 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: know Russell Wilson's gonna be a fix factor this year 307 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: for sure. Tell us about Damian Lewis and and then 308 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: Ethan Posic. I mean, those two guys probably a couple 309 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: of the bigger question marks. The thing about Lewis and 310 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: playing right next to each other, I mean, we just 311 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: haven't heard that much about him, but I think that's 312 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: good news. You know that he's really doing his job. 313 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: And then Postic just kind of a different player this year, 314 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: it seems like then in years past. Yeah, you know, 315 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: I think getting a chance to kind of get comfortable 316 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: at center and play regularly has been good for him. 317 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: He's a guy that, you know, a big part of 318 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: his game coming in here. What made invaluable of the 319 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: team was his versatility. They knew he could play basically 320 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: every spot just about, but he was a center a 321 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: lot of his career at LSU, and with a full 322 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: camp to focus on that, he did well and won 323 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: the job. Then the other factor that you know, we 324 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: didn't know about till pe Carroll told us, but there 325 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: was a health elemented play where he's playing through a 326 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: sports hernia that was misdiagnosed and it took a while 327 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: to kind of get everything right. Now that he's had 328 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: that surgery, he's just physically better, he's stronger, he's more comfortable. 329 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: So it's a good good story for him that, you know, 330 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: after four years or three seasons of kind of kicking 331 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: around and being a that versatile backup and part time 332 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: starter where he's got every opportunity to own that job 333 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: this year. And then Lewis, I mean, he's one of 334 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: the rookies, maybe the rookie that guys have been most 335 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: excited about. When he talks to his teammates, he talks 336 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: to coaches. He's just come in and done everything right. 337 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: And you know, people keep pointing back to that experience 338 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: he had at LSU and playing for Coacho down there 339 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: of you know, just it's a really good program, a 340 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: good system, and he played against a lot of great 341 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: players obviously in the SEC. So you know, I'm sure 342 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: there will be some rookie moments for him and that 343 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: whole line. You know, with three new guys, there's there's 344 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a moment at some point, whether this week 345 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: or in another game, where something goes wrong and they 346 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: make a mistake. But if they can minimize those, they 347 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: really like the talent that they've brought in to add 348 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: to it, and with posts that kind of developing, John, 349 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: it's the one position that this coaching staff has been 350 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: coy about is the right corner position. Trey Flowers, Quintin Dunbar, 351 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: You've been out there. What has led to this competition 352 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: being as close as it has been, and what do 353 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: you think is going to be the factor in determining 354 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: who is ultimately going to be the starter game Week one? Yeah, 355 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think first and foremost has been a 356 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: close competition because Trey Flowers has responded really well to it. 357 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, I think we all sort of saw, oh, 358 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: they went and traded for a cornerback and a guy 359 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: who's coming off a couple of really good seasons, and 360 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: you sort of make the assumption that Dunbar is going 361 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: to be the guy there. But Trey Flowers has had 362 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: a really good camp and he's been there more. I 363 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: mean the Dunbar, because of his situation, was late to 364 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: camp and then he was away for a funeral just recently, 365 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: so he's missed some time. So you know, I don't 366 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: know how it's going to look on Sunday, but I 367 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: will say this, one way or another, they're going to 368 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: feel better about that position. Whether that's because Dunbar came 369 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: in and upgraded it for him, or whether it's because 370 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: the way Trey Flowers responded to that competition and improved 371 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: his game from where he was he here ago. John 372 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: Boyle of Seahawks dot Com, we look forward to talking 373 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: to you every Thursday, sir, Thanks for coming, Thanks for 374 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: having me. Guys. All right up, Next, we're gonna go 375 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: to Atlanta and catch up with Andy Bunker to take 376 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: a look at these Falcons. Is Matt Ryan as good 377 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: as ever last them? Next on the Huddle. This is 378 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two on seven 379 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: ten ESPN Seattle. We're going to Atlanta now to catch 380 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: up with our former colleague Andy Bunker. Bunk Town in 381 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: the house. Mister Bunker, how you doing. I'm great, Tom. 382 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: How are you wonderful to be talking to you, my friend? 383 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: I miss it. Hey, No, it's been literally the last 384 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: time we talked was the last time the Falcons and 385 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: the Seahawks played. We could make this more common, we 386 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: could talk more often, but I understand. Yeah, I could 387 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: just do a weekly segment like and now talking to 388 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: Bunker bringing them on. People are like, what are we 389 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: talking falcons for? Actually, it's funny say that because the 390 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: last time we took a really close look at this 391 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: Falcons team and and even talked about it, it was 392 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: week eight and it felt like a different story leading 393 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: up to them for the Falcons and then Seattle leaves 394 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: and the Falcons win six of their final eight. I mean, 395 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: was that Atlanta turning things around? Was it, you know, 396 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: getting lucky playing bad teams? What went into that? Yeah, 397 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: it's a great question. I think we're going to find 398 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: out over the next month or so. I thought. I 399 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: thought that pass from Russell Wilson to DK Metcalf at 400 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: the end of the first half of leek Gate was 401 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: the nail and the coffin of Dan Quinn and Thomas 402 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: Dimitroff and this era for the Falcons. But they went 403 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: to the bye week and they came back and went 404 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: six and two in the second half, and that was 405 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: enough to salvage it and give them another stat at it. 406 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: So they made some wholesale changes defensively, play calling. Raheem 407 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: Morris is the defensive coordinator now, and we're gonna find out, honestly. 408 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think anyone who follows the 409 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: Salcons or covers the Salcons would be disingenuous and saying 410 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: that they have a firm grasp on what this team 411 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: is going to be. I mean, they were two different 412 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: football teams last year. So I mean, the hope here 413 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: in Atlanta is that they did figure it out and 414 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: that the second half of the season was more close 415 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: to who they are. But it's it's hard to say. 416 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: It's really hard to say, Hey, Andy, good, good to 417 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: hear from you, first of all. And secondly, probably the 418 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: biggest mystery that I'm from my standpoint anyway, is Todd Gurley. 419 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, there was all to talk about the knee, 420 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: and Seahawks obviously faced him twice a year for the 421 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: last few years. But I hear good things from Matt 422 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: Ryan complimenting him. But which version of Todd Gurley are 423 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: we going to see this year? Another excellent question that 424 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: we're all really excited to find out on Sunday, Because 425 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: You're right, Dave, he listened to Matt Ryan or Julio 426 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: Jones spoke about him today, Dan Quinn, everybody to a 427 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: man up there a flowery branch with the Falcons says, 428 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley looks great, that he looks healthy, and they 429 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: expect him to be the number one running back in 430 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: a big part of the offense. That said, I mean, 431 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: if he was, if he was that same Todd Gurley 432 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: that was nearly the MVP a couple of years ago, 433 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: he would still be in Los Angeles. So it's really 434 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: it's really hard to know what to expect from a 435 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: guy who was was let go by if he's twenty 436 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: five years old, and we're talking about a guy who's 437 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: twenty five years old and the Rams moved on from 438 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: him last offseason. So you know, if Todd Gurley is 439 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: anything close to what he was in Los Angeles a 440 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I think the Falcons offense can 441 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: be dynamic. If he looks a lot like what DeVante 442 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: Freeman looked like the last couple of years, then the 443 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: Falcons offense is probably one dimensional and um probably pretty 444 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: easy to stop. Andy. One player that I think people 445 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: forget about because of the injuries that he has had 446 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: is Key O'Neil. He is such an X factor for 447 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: this team and what is it going to be like 448 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: for this group to have him back? Huge? I think 449 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: for me, Kean o neil's health is the single most 450 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: valuable part of the Falcons defense this season, if he's 451 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: able to stay healthy, because like you mentioned, and he's 452 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: missed almost all of the last two years. In twenty seventeen, 453 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: the last year that he played a full slate of games, 454 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: the Falcons were a top ten defense. And you know 455 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: Seahawks fans know Dan Quinn's background is in defense. He 456 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: came from coordinating the Seahawks to back to back Super Bowls. 457 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: He wants the identity of this Falcons team to be 458 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: similar to what the identity if that seff what those 459 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks teams were. And Keanuneil is very much supposed to 460 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: be the Cam Chancellor of this defense. And you don't 461 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: have to tell I don't have to tell you guys 462 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: what that defense looked like when Cam Chancellor was not 463 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: in it, when he was supposed to be um. And 464 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: that's been that's been the deal for the Falcons defense 465 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So if he can be 466 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: back there and he can be that enforcer and and 467 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: he can lay those big hicks over the middle and 468 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: he could create the fumbles that he created, I think 469 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: his defense could get back to being really good. But again, 470 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: like you guys are basically like boiling down our last 471 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: three months of topics of Okay, Falcons can be good 472 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: if this happens. The Falcons might be good if this happens, 473 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: and it's all such an unknown. There's so many unknowns 474 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: of this football. Talking to Andy Bunker on ninety two 475 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: point nine the game in Atlanta. Are you surprised that 476 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Davante Freeman hasn't been picked up at all? I know, 477 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: maybe he wanted some more money than the Seahawks are 478 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: willing to give him. But are people just afraid of 479 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: his health? What's going on there? Yeah? I mean I 480 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: think you look at what he was last year. Um, 481 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: he was a he was a older running back coming 482 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: off of a growing surgery, and he wasn't very he 483 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: wasn't very dynamic. I mean, he was the guy who's 484 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: undersized running back anyway, who ran really tough, and you 485 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: know when guys play like that, it's it's a very 486 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: quick drop off, and it looks like the drop off 487 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: happened for him. The other side of it is the money, 488 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned Tom, Like you know, it just doesn't 489 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: seem like he's getting good advice. It seems like whoever 490 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: is advising Davante his representative. He switched representation at at 491 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: midway through this offseason, but he seems to value himself 492 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: still as a top flight running back in the NFL, 493 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: and clearly he's not that. So, I mean, good for 494 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: him for value in himself highly, but I don't. I 495 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: don't think he's going to find himself on a team 496 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: until they come down off whatever number it is that 497 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: they're asking for. But the reality is he's just not 498 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: the same guy. And he wasn't the same guy last year. 499 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: The year before that he was injured. He hadn't been 500 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: the same you know, dual threat, catch the ball out 501 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: of the backfield, home run hitting type running back since 502 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and you know that's a long time ago 503 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: in football years. Passing game remains a strength of this team. 504 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Obviously led the league and attempts last year per game. 505 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: I'm not asking this for fantasy purposes. This is not 506 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: self serving, Andy, but I'm just wondering, you know, from 507 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: your expert opinion, how has Matt Ryan looked great? I mean, 508 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. God to know is to be counted on, right, Like, 509 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: that's one of the things you know that the Knocks 510 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: team is Matt Ryan's going to be good for somewhere 511 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: between forty two and forty seven hundred yards. I mean, 512 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: if if it's healthy and they blocked better for him, 513 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 1: it could be better than that. Julia Jones is going 514 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: to be really good, and they're going to be able 515 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: to throw the ball down the field. One of the 516 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: reasons why they had to throw it so much last year, though, 517 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: is because they were behind a lot and the running 518 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: game wasn't very good. So if Todd Gurley can be 519 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: what we talked about earlier, that helps Matt Ryan out 520 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: a lot. The other thing about it it's going to 521 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: help Matt Ryan out a lot, is if the offensive 522 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: line is anywhere near back to what it was a 523 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. And the Falcons offensive line has 524 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: been just a revolving door of bodies since the Super 525 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Bowl season in twenty sixteen. Kaylen McGary's and Washington is 526 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: out there on the right side at right tackle and 527 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: first round draft pick. Last year, I traded up to 528 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: get him, and McGary gave up the most sacks of 529 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: any tackle in the NFL, so he's got to be better. 530 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: They also took a first round draft pick on Chris 531 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: Lindstrom right garden out of Boston College, and he missed 532 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: half the season last year with an injury, so he's 533 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: got to stay healthy and he's got to be better. 534 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Matt Ryan both got sacked forty eight 535 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: times last year. I think Seahawks fans at Falcons fans 536 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: both hope those numbers or that number is a lot 537 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: lower this season. Hey, Andy, really quick, how's hayden Hurst look? 538 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: He's one of those tight ends that was pretty productive 539 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: for Baltimore and got him in a trade. How's how's 540 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: he looking so far? Yeah, he's a guy that people 541 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: are really excited about. I mean, obviously, Austin Hooper leaving 542 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: got a big payday in Cleveland. Falcons couldn't afford him, 543 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: and you know, hayden Hurst kind of I don't know 544 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: if he's fell a lot of favor, but he just 545 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: kind of felt down the depth chart in Baltimore and 546 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: he was the first round draft pick a couple of 547 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: years ago. And everything you hear from Dan Quinn and 548 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: the offensive staff is that hayden Hurst could be just 549 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: as valuable, if not more valuable than Austin as he 550 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: care in this offense. Big guy, fast guy, Matt Ryan 551 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: loves going too tight ends. So I think he's a 552 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: guy that if you're talking about sleepers on this Falcons offense, 553 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: I think hayden Hurst is probably number one on that list. Bunker, 554 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: we love you, brother, Thanks so much for coming on 555 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: don't be a stranger. Hey, that's up to you. Guys. 556 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: Just call me anytime. Okay, we will, And likewise you 557 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: can call us too, anyone of us. Stacy'd be glad 558 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: to come on anytime. All right, Coming up next another 559 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: friend of the show, Ray Roberts, will be joining us 560 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: in the trenches with Ray Roberts. That's next on the Huddle. 561 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: This is the Huddle every Thursday from noon to two 562 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: on seven ten ESPN, Seattle. I have a feeling like 563 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna be our liveliest segment every single Thursday 564 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: on the Huddle. Just a prediction. We're going in the 565 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: trenches with Ray Roberts, and it's great to have you 566 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: a bore with us. Ray. How you doing. I'm doing good, 567 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: but man, good to hear your voice again. Likewise, it's 568 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: good to hear from you. Ray. Hey, I'm gonna go 569 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: ahead and get started. There are three new faces, one 570 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: veteran but in a new role on this offensive line. 571 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: Guard Damian Lewis starting on the right side, and then 572 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: you've got Brandon Shell at right tackle and obviously Ethan 573 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: Postic at center. How's the group look to you? Overall? 574 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm not gonna lie. I've I've been 575 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: wondering how it's gonna look when the season starts. Yeah, 576 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's really hard, uh to really jail as 577 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: an offensive line and and to really like craft your 578 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: your skill as an offensive lineman when you can't finish blocks. 579 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: So like the first two or three steps in practice 580 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: and stuff, you can you kind of go live and 581 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: you get into the block, but you don't really get 582 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: you're not really working to take a guy to the ground. 583 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: And that's a really that's a really important part of 584 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: the process. So from what I've seen in you know, 585 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: in the in the two practices roughly that I that 586 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: I saw and then some of the stuff I've seen 587 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: just on the on the some of the live streaming, 588 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: UM is that I really liked the three pieces that 589 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: are added to the offensive line. I think postage to 590 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: me um, I think one of his one of the 591 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: biggest problems with him is that his the seals like 592 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: guys that are flexible, that can do different jobs, different 593 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: jobs and different positions, and that doesn't always bode well 594 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: for someone who's trying to master a particular position. And 595 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: so I think by putting him in as center, letting 596 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: him play center the entire camp, given him all the 597 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, the first team reps there, really allowed him 598 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: to kind of settle into what he's good at and 599 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: what he was good at in college, and I think 600 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: that's the position he played the most in college. Uh. 601 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: And then I think that he has finally kind of 602 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: embraced the um the phone booth fight type player that 603 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: they like to have on the offensive line. He's always 604 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: been like a really good technician, kind of a dude, 605 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: but he didn't quite have all that kind of power 606 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: and and uh, the ability to kind of sustain blocks 607 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: against the bigger, bigger defenders, you know, by himself. So 608 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with his progress and uh and 609 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: his ability to stay healthy through camp because he had 610 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: the you know, injuries have also been a part of 611 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: his of his uh lack of development. And then with 612 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: the other two guys, with Damien Lewis um Man, he 613 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: just it's like a like a smaller, more athletic version 614 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: of of DJ Fluker to me, like they just he 615 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: seems like he could beat DJ Fluker's little brother, but 616 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: he's he's a little bit more skilled in his technique. 617 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: He has a little bit better lateral movement and the 618 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: ability to to um uh respond to countermoves and things 619 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: like that. And the thing I really like about him 620 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: is that he blocks until the whistle blows, like he 621 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: is really trying to drive someone's back into the dirt 622 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: and uh and that that is a really good thing 623 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and uh and not that not to put him on 624 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: a huge pedal stool, but it reminds me a lot 625 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: of Kevin Mawhy when Kevin came in as a rookie, 626 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: uh with the Seahawks and they and he from the 627 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: first day he was running with the first team and 628 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: he was trying to finish every single block and every 629 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: single game and every single practice. Uh. They just just 630 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: their mentality that way. It's similar. And then with Shell 631 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: that the right the right tackle spot, um man, he 632 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: just like I remember Pete when they first got him. 633 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: Pete said that he kind of kind of one of 634 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: those first dudes off the bus type dudes. And he 635 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: is all every bit of that. And I can't say 636 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: that anything he does is spectacular, but what but what 637 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 1: he does is is something that you can just kind 638 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: of count on, Like he's a dependable player. I don't 639 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: see him making a bunch of mistakes. I don't see 640 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: him having a whole bunch of penalties. For all the 641 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: raw power and things that Affetti had, he could not 642 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: control that part of his game. And I think Shell 643 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: does a better job at controlling that, even though he 644 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: may not be as just powerful as them. So I 645 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, Uh, it may 646 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,959 Speaker 1: not look like it in the first two or three games, 647 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: because I think they're going to have some inconsistency just 648 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: because of the lack of live reps. But I think, 649 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, Pete Break says, season down into four quarters. 650 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: I think probably halfway through that second quarter of the 651 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: season that you'll start to see them really kind of 652 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm into like really jail and be able 653 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: to trust each other and have that kind of confidence 654 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: with each other as an offensive line. Big dog. I 655 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: love the phone booth reference. And for all of you 656 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: younger people, a phone booth is a four by four 657 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: foot glass encasement of a payphone. It used to be 658 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: said that when you send two guys in, only one 659 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: guy comes out. And and since you brought that up though, right, 660 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: explain how much I always had trouble with the offensive 661 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: linemen that were kind of nasty and that you know, 662 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: always kind of a push at the end and you 663 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: know of the play and just you know, they'd kind 664 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: of get you out of your game. And I know 665 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: you were that kind of guy, having fought the entire 666 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: defense of the Oakland Raiders back in the day. But 667 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: what tell me how much that means? How much that 668 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: means to a guy? Because I kind of see that 669 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: same thing in Damian Lewis too, and something might kind 670 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: of like to see a little bit more out of 671 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: like posic. Yeah to me. You know how they say, 672 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: like the phrase like you know, winning can be the 673 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: bend aid to a lot of problems. Uh, nastiness can 674 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: be the bend aid to a to a lot of 675 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: shortcomings as an offensive lineman. And so uh so if 676 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: you have the skill and the talent and less uh 677 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: shortcomings and the nastiness, then I think you're just elevated 678 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: to a whole other level. When I you know, when 679 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: we coach together, Dave at uh at uh late Washington. Uh, 680 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, with our offensive line, our tagline was low, hard, 681 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: Maine and nasty and the more nasty you can be, 682 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: the better. And so I could have picked out those 683 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: other things that you know kind of speak to, like 684 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: your your skill set or your your athleticism or whatever. 685 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: But nasting this is just something you can't teach. Either 686 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: have it or you don't have it. And uh and 687 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: and Damien has it, and I think that that that 688 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: gives him an opportunity with his skill set to be 689 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: even better. And so it's it's almost like um uh. 690 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: When I think about the mass in this part, I 691 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: think about Plinius Wood when he said get off my lawn, 692 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: because I'm looking at you as a defender, thinking like 693 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: you're on my grass and I'm going to get you 694 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: off my grass and I'm going to own my grass 695 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: all day long. And in order for me to do that, 696 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: I can't just be technically sound. You know, play end 697 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: and I walk back to the huddle. I need to 698 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: let you know that you are trespassing every single time, 699 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: and the way in the way you do that is 700 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: just being super nasty. And sometimes that means been a 701 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: jerk or you know, another word you can use, but 702 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: that's just part of it. Ray. One aspect that I'm 703 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: really curious about it and I'd love to get your 704 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: expertise on this is how is this lack of a 705 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: preseason going to affect the offensive line group. I feel 706 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: like it's going to affect this group maybe more than 707 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: others could, just because it's such a group that has 708 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: to work well together. There's such a chemistry that is 709 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: involved with picking up stunts and blitzes and things of 710 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: that nature. How do you feel like the Seahawks in 711 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: particular are going to handle this. Do you think we're 712 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: gonna see some glaring weaknesses or maybe some rust from 713 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: the lack of opportunities to really get scrimmage, real game 714 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: rep opportunities. Yeah, that's a that's a great question, Jake, 715 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,959 Speaker 1: because even in the best of times, with the way 716 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: that they do OTAs with no contact and things like that, 717 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: that also has really impacted like the development of a 718 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: lot of offensive lines and offensive line men because you 719 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: just can't you just can't have hat days and develop, 720 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, those types of things as an offensive line. 721 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: You can't just practice in shells and shorts and really 722 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: get those things. And so with everything that's going on 723 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: now with the lack of OTAs and not being able 724 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: to play in the preseason and having these kind of 725 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: controlled practices because you don't want to get guys hurt 726 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: and you have all these new pieces. I really think 727 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: that it's gonna That's why I think it's going to 728 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: be maybe into that second quarter of the season before 729 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: you really start to see them come into shape. Because, um, 730 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, when I when I played left tackle, it 731 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: was when I went to Detroit and I played beside 732 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: this guy named Mike Compton, and so individually we were both, 733 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, really good players, but together it took us 734 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: a while to like really understand. Like I had to 735 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: understand what his friends and weaknesses are. He had to 736 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: understand what my strength and weaknesses are. I had to 737 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: know that if I if I gave him the signal 738 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: that I needed him to be sitting on my inside hip, 739 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: that he's going to sit on my inside hip like 740 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: I need I needed to earn. I needed to be 741 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: able to trust that if if he said he was 742 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: going to be there, that he's gonna be there. And 743 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: then the same with him, if he was setting a 744 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: double team, he had to know that I'm coming I'm 745 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: coming in on that double team because he's leaving half 746 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: of the dude's body exposed that he can maybe slip 747 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: off and split the double team. So it takes a 748 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: little bit of time to kind of uh to Jael 749 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: that the one thing I think that works in the 750 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: Seahawks favor uh minus probably you know the rookie is that, 751 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: uh is that the pieces that they brought in are 752 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: guys that have played so Shell has played posted and 753 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: so that will then help kind of quicken the the 754 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: ability to earn that trust, you know, with the rookie 755 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because you have guys that I 756 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: played the sounds. That was the one thing I liked about, Like, 757 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: I know that I think one of the comments you 758 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: had made, I think it was a tackle that was 759 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: buy him that was a free agent that was a 760 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: much better player I was. Yeah, so we passed on 761 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: him to bring in all these different pieces, um. And 762 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: the thing I like about the pieces they brought in 763 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: is that they brought in experienced dudes. So it wasn't 764 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: like they were bringing in a whole bunch of rookies 765 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: and they were trying to get this thing going. They've 766 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: They've brought in guys. Some of them were high trafficks, 767 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, and uh and but all of them had 768 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: played a lot of games, and so I think that 769 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: that helps with that whole developing chemistry and trust and stuff, 770 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: but now a couple with all the other pandemic stuff. 771 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: I think it's going to take a few games into 772 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: the season and for you to start to see that 773 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: all come together. Ray, ten minutes is not long enough 774 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: with you, But our next conversation we'll have to wait 775 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: until next week. We appreciate you coming on, Hey man, 776 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: I enjoy coming on, and just know that you know 777 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear words, you know, like snot bubbles and 778 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: stuff like that, like that's kind of old lime kind 779 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: of talk. And we'll I'll explain to you guys what 780 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: the snot bubbles are, uh, the next time we talk. 781 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: But uh, but you know, we're gonna try to have 782 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: fun with it and I'm gonna bring you everything I got. Thanks, Ray. 783 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. If Ray wants to explain what snot bubbles are, 784 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: that's fine. I just don't want him to have to 785 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: give me any snot bubbles. You know, when he knocks 786 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: me over anything that's correct, that's the last thing you want, 787 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: right all right. Steve Rabel is the next guest here 788 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: on the huddle, and then Dan Quinn after that. We're 789 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: not gonna talk to him. We'll hear from him Quandre 790 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: Digs at one thirty and then Freddie Swain after that. 791 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: Huddle's next seven ten ESPN Seattle, and we continue our 792 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: journey today, and we are joined by the voice of 793 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Great to be joined by 794 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: Steve Rabel today. How are you, sir? I'm great, kids, 795 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: How are you? We're good. We're good. Obviously excited being 796 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: that it's game week. It feels like it's been forever 797 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: since they've been this excited about any game, but here 798 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: we are. This game in particular is exciting because I 799 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: think our show, along with others, have been hoping we 800 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: see even more opportunities for Russell Wilson this week, especially 801 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: he's facing a secondary that wasn't that great last year. 802 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: Are you expecting to see pretty early what that connection 803 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: between Russell Wilson and dk looks like this year? Well, 804 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you think you're going to go in 805 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: and especially if the sense is well, let's kind of 806 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: force the ball to DKA, because we know we need 807 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: to get passes to him early and often you can 808 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: pretty quickly get into trouble that way. If you're the quarterback, 809 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: the game has to come to you. You have to 810 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: know what dan Quinn wants to do to you on defense, 811 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: and that's what Russell does really well is read what's 812 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,959 Speaker 1: happening out there, so they'll have plays in for deca. 813 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, they'll send him down the sidelines, 814 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: they'll send him on flag routes and deep crossers over 815 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: the middle. But when you have another target like Greg 816 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: Olsen in there, when you've got Tyler Lockett, David Moore's 817 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: playing pretty well, you've got some guy and the speed 818 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: that the Dorset has, You've got guys that can catch 819 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: the football, so you don't have to force it anywhere. 820 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: What you do is come out and you read. And 821 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: as you mentioned states the Falcon's secondary not the best 822 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: in the league a year ago. Interesting kind of defensive philosophy. 823 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: Now they're going to go with three, sayfties and no 824 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: real middle linebacker and then two outside backers along with 825 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: their cornerbacks, so you know, they get a lot of 826 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: passing in their division in the NFC South. That's what 827 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: they figure they need to do. So I think, first 828 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: and foremost, I think we come out and run the 829 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: football truly and I know everybody keeps talking about let 830 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: let Russell go crazy in the first quarter. You know, 831 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: we'll throw the football, but you've got to establish Chris Carson. 832 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 1: That's just the nature of this Beast. Well, Carlos Heicher 833 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: has looked good, Steve and you and I are out 834 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: there for the mock game. It seems like when they 835 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: first signed him, I thought, well, they're they're saying we're 836 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: not going to run out of running backs this year 837 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: like they did last year. But really, I mean I 838 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: was just looking at him as depth. But he sure 839 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: has looked good. I think that's that's really good news 840 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: for Chris Carson. And I'm not sure what you think 841 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: the split's going to be between him and Carlos Hide, 842 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: but it'll give Chris Carson a pretty good chance to 843 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: to sort of, you know, take some plays off and 844 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: take a little bit of breather because he's had had 845 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: health problems, had problems staying healthy the last few years. Yeah, 846 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: without question, David. And the biggest thing is they want 847 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: to keep him, you know, on the field. Twelve hundred 848 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: yard rusher a year ago, uh, and then hurt at 849 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: the end of the season and along with Penny's injury. 850 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it really cascaded as far as the season went. 851 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: And still we go to the you know, divisional round 852 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: of the playoffs and what losing Green Bay by five 853 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: on a snowy, frigid day to the Packers and had 854 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: a chance to move on from there. Um, So I 855 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: think you're right. I think I think Carlos Hyde was 856 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: brought in for the depth. But you know what, and 857 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this to you when we were 858 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: standing out there on the on the berm watching practice 859 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: or at the mock game down at the stadium. Carlos Hyde, 860 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: You're right, has looked good and I loved him when 861 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: he was a forty nine er. I mean I just 862 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 1: thought he was really effective for the Niners, coming out 863 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: of the backfield, a hard runner, he's he's, you know, 864 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: bigger than he than he looks, he plays bigger than 865 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: he books. And then he goes for over one thousand 866 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: against Houston last year. I mean, this guy is tough, 867 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: So yeah, get him in the game if they had 868 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: a seventy thirty split or maybe even a sixty forty 869 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: split to get those guys on the field for the 870 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: first one especially and remember Chris was absent for a 871 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: part of training camp because of death in the family 872 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: that he had to go back to Atlanta for. So 873 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: it's been a tough period of time for Carson. And 874 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: if you can go without having to play him, you know, 875 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: forty five plays on offense or something, I do that. 876 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: And Carlos is also a good receiver out of the backfield, 877 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: as Chris has become, and as we now know, Homer 878 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: is and Dallas is. So they've got a lot of 879 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: They've got a lot of weapons they can choose from 880 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Do now, Rabel, what is the one aspect 881 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: of this game that you are nervous about, something that 882 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: just gives you a little bit of nervousness. Maybe it's 883 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 1: the unknowns. What is that one thing in your mind? Well, 884 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, Pete and John went out and they certainly 885 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: improved the secondary. I mean there's no question about that. 886 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: Not that you know the guys were didn't play well 887 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: last year. At times they did, but Jamal Adams as 888 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: a special player, and Pete and John both really like 889 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: Quentin Dunbar and what he brings to the dance. And 890 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers is a better player digs. We know about 891 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: and Shaq Griffin we know about so they improved the 892 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: back end. How much are we improved up front? How 893 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: much pressure are we gonna get? We're gonna get a 894 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: good test against Matt Ryan. I mean, he is the 895 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: prototypical stand in the pocket, be tall, look down field, 896 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: get the ball out of your hands. He's got plenty 897 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: of weapons. Julio, what caught I don't know, ten or 898 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: twelve passes against us last year from Matt shob no 899 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 1: less and Matt schob is you know, he's one hundred 900 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: and seven years old. Ryan all out? So can we 901 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: get pressure? Can we get to him enough to just 902 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 1: get get in his face, make him move his feet, 903 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: get off his mark. That to me is going to 904 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: be a big question mark. I'm glad we brought in Bruce. 905 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,479 Speaker 1: I'm glad we brought in Benson Mayo. I think Ken 906 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: Norton is going to have to mix things up a 907 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: little bit. I think he's gonna have to bring some people, 908 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: extra people at times to get pressure on the quarterback. 909 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 1: And then you know, are the Falcon's just going to 910 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,839 Speaker 1: hand the ball off? They're gonna run. Todd Gurley has 911 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: run for a lot of yards against the Seahawks over 912 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: his career and now he's in Atlanta, So you know, 913 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: how's the defense up gonna hold up up front that front? Seven? 914 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: How do you think Pete Carroll is going to sort 915 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: out the Flowers versus Dunbar battle to start the year, 916 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: because Flowers has had a terrific camp. But I'm sure 917 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: you've watched him out there. How do you think that 918 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: he divides up the reps to start Well, I think 919 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna go by what he's seen in practice. And 920 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: I mean, how prepared is Quentin. He had to leave, 921 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: he had a death in the family, had to go 922 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: back for a funeral, He's had the legal issues that 923 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: you know have kind of played on his mind. I 924 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: can't see how they wouldn't. And Trey has just been 925 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: able to put his head down and get out there 926 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,720 Speaker 1: and work hard. So in effect, you have three guys, 927 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: and then you got Marquise Blayer, who's going to be 928 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: your nickel guy, who has come in and played really 929 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: well at that nickel back. So I don't know that 930 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: you can make a wrong decision on that. As far 931 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: as Pete's concerned, I think he's gonna go with the 932 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: guy he feels most comfortable with at this point and 933 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: who can be most effective out there this week. I mean, 934 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: Trey is six three, Julio Jones is a big wide receiver. 935 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to get some size on sides? Quentin 936 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: Dunbar six two? I give you that, but I don't know. 937 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: I whatever whatever they decide, I think is going to 938 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: be the right one. I think we'll see both guys play. 939 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: Rame's pleasure talking to you as always. Hope you enjoy 940 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: away broadcasting this game. I'm sure it's going to be 941 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: a much different environment for you. Oh well, it is. 942 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,879 Speaker 1: Unfortunately Dave is going to be there with me. So 943 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: that's that's the tough part that we'll have to get through. 944 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I had set aside like forty 945 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: five minutes to chat with you guys. That's it. We're done. 946 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like a whole thing. I've had enough, 947 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Stop right, Okay, Well we will we 948 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: will see what we shall see. It'll be interesting. From 949 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: Century link Field, Dave and me and a few of 950 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: our closest friends. Thanks so much, all right, guys, thank you, 951 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna hear a little bit more from 952 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn. We heard a little bit yesterday and a 953 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: bit more today on some other topics are on the 954 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: Huddle that's next. This is the Huddle every Thursday from 955 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: noon to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. We're scheduled 956 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: just catch up with Quandre Diggs coming up in about 957 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, so don't miss that. It was spoken to 958 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: Quandre yet on this show. I don't think so be 959 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,919 Speaker 1: a first raw of us. Maybe with the exception of Dave. 960 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna hear from Atlanta Falcon's head coach 961 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn. Now this is interesting because he's talking about 962 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 1: Bruce Ervin, a guy who he had here in Seattle 963 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 1: and a guy who he had in Atlanta last year. 964 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 1: Let's hear cutting over one on Bruce Ervin. Yeah. I 965 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: think what remarkable is just, you know, like for everybody 966 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: who's been around Bruce, they know the speed that he 967 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: can play with, and so to see him ripping off 968 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: the edge with the speed that was really evident because 969 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: you weren't sure, but once he got back and was 970 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: into the system, his versatility at speed. So we played 971 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: him at linebacker, we played him at defensive end, and 972 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: so he did a good job during the time here. 973 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: The season didn't work out like we hope, but he 974 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: certainly did a good job in his time. Now, Dave, 975 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: do you think that that gives Quinn a huge scheming 976 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: advantage because he's had Irvan before. He may have coached 977 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: against him when he was with Oakland and or Carolina. 978 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: How do you see that matchup going? Well, you know, 979 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't he's just rushing off the edge. I mean, 980 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be, you know, physically hard 981 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: to handle. But as far as you know, knowing where 982 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: he lines up or how they're gonna use it, what's 983 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: interesting is watching him play linebacker, and you know, he 984 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: was really I mean, I don't know about you guys. 985 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 1: I thought when they signed him, all I thought about was, 986 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: we've got an edge rusher. You know, we got a 987 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: guy who coming off a career high of what eight 988 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: and a half nine and a half sacks, and yet 989 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: they talk about him as playing linebacker, and you know, 990 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: and look, they he would only be a linebacker if well, 991 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: at least this is my best guess, is only if 992 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: they're in base personnel, which is you know, forty lineman, 993 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: three linebackers, you know, and for defensive backs and that's 994 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: usually when it's a situation. He's a really good linebacker, 995 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 1: you know that, that's the thing about him. But I 996 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: think dan Quinn knows all of that. It's probably gonna 997 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: be you know, different to see how they use him. 998 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: That'll probably be the biggest thing, you know, is trying 999 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: to match up and figure out what they're doing. I 1000 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: think there's going to be some different looks this year. 1001 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you can look at the 1002 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: Seahawk tape from last year and go, Okay, this is 1003 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: how they're going to run their defense by any means. 1004 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the thing that stands out to me 1005 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: is probably the biggest surprise is that they've talked so 1006 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: much about him playing linebacker, and as far as I 1007 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: can tell, he's not interested in playing linebacker. When he 1008 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 1: got those two pick sixes that year, you know, and 1009 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 1: they threw him in there, and I was watching him 1010 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: drop into his zones and everything, like he gets it. 1011 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: He's really good, like technically inside and the run game, 1012 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,239 Speaker 1: he's his shoulders are always square. I mean, he does 1013 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: everything a linebacker was taught to do. But it just 1014 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: seems like he's he's much more interested in putting his 1015 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: hand in the dirt and rush in the quarterback and 1016 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: cut here talking about you talk about that versatility, and 1017 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 1: I think, for for when you look at the versatility 1018 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 1: of Bruce Irvin, it's just like so many other players 1019 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: that they have across this defense. So it will be 1020 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: fun week one to see how different, how different this 1021 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 1: defense looks, the little wrinkles that they put in. Obviously 1022 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: they'll structurally still be the same, but the fun wrinkles 1023 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 1: that they add to this group, it will be fun 1024 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,439 Speaker 1: to watch. He speaks here about the tandem, his own 1025 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: tandom of Matt Ryan and Julio Jones, comparing that to 1026 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Tyler Lockett Cut two. Yeah, I think 1027 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: when you're you're probably talking about like traits of players, 1028 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, and uh so with Julio as speed and 1029 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: length and uh you know Matt, you know certainly you 1030 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: know as as a pastor, you know, all of the 1031 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,760 Speaker 1: things that you're looking for. But they also found, uh 1032 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,439 Speaker 1: you know, with Russell and with Kyler, it's like the 1033 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: absolute competitors, and so all they've ever done was just 1034 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 1: kick ass that everywhere they play. Stacy, he said a 1035 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: bad word. I noticed that Now there's a huge difference 1036 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: obviously between Tyler Lockett and Julio Jones and the type 1037 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: of receivers they are, but those but those two tandems, 1038 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: that's an interesting comparison there. How do you see them 1039 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: being similar or different? I mean, I think that both 1040 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: have been I don't want to say a security blanket, 1041 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: because they both are the lead receivers for very good quarterbacks. 1042 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,759 Speaker 1: They both are the target. I think that has a 1043 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: lot of trust from their quarterback, and I think you know, 1044 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 1: on either team you see other receivers getting in their 1045 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, for example, any Seahawks fan would would tell 1046 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: you seemed like he had, you know, built a lot 1047 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: of that trust last year, and certainly it sounds like 1048 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: they have this offseason. But I think there's that ability 1049 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: to trust them. And while they are different quarterbacks, to 1050 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: make throws that it's almost like you have to have 1051 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: a good connection and timing and chemistry to make that throw. 1052 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: Think of that catch Jaker Dave. You might have to 1053 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: remind me what was that toetep catch that Lockett made 1054 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: that had like a like a three percent chance exactly 1055 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: something like that. I mean, you have to know each other, 1056 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: your tendencies so well, get the timing down and it's 1057 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 1: just stuff like that. It's the same kind of thing 1058 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: you see Matt and Julio due to the two together, 1059 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: just from working together so much. Dave, I'm curious to 1060 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: get your perspective on this one. You're used to playing 1061 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: in front of crowds your whole life. Now all of 1062 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: a sudden, there's not going to be one. How's that 1063 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 1: going to work? Cut number five? Yeah, I think, um, 1064 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 1: they're pretty equipped for that. And that's um, you know, 1065 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,880 Speaker 1: you get into you know, signals and silent counts and 1066 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,919 Speaker 1: you know different ways to use a cadence. So those 1067 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 1: are things that that we worked on. But I think 1068 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: going to the stadium and many experiences with that certainly 1069 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: seem to help in this season of new things. You 1070 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: wanted to keep trying and keep putting your space yourself 1071 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: in the environment and try some of the new things. 1072 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: And so having the sound at the stadium it was 1073 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: pretty familiar for us. So he's talking about his offense, Dave, 1074 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,959 Speaker 1: what about would you guys on defense, Well, crowd noise 1075 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: get you fired up, you know if you're at home, 1076 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: And I think didn't they say like the seventy decibel 1077 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: level is what is going to be the max? I 1078 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: think somebody I read that somewhere and they change it, 1079 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: and you know, we don't know if it's going to 1080 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: be the same different everywhere. I think the interesting thing 1081 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: Tom is going to be to ask the players afterwards, 1082 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: does it does crowd? Does noise really get you fired up? 1083 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,279 Speaker 1: If it's coming from speakers? I mean, when you get 1084 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: when you light people up and make them, you know, 1085 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 1: scream and yell, that's a person and then there's sixty 1086 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: five thousand of them. If in this case it's gonna 1087 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: be if you get I guess the guy who's controlling 1088 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: the knob fired up to turn up the sound. I mean, 1089 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: it's just it's a strange phenomenon. I'm curious to hear 1090 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: from those guys, like does that really get you fired 1091 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: up when you know it's just piped in noise? So um, 1092 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I guess I just I noticed, 1093 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: like in the Kingdom it used to get so loud 1094 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 1: in there and you don't feel the hits the adrenaline. 1095 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: Really it gets you going. But again, if it's because 1096 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: it was coming from people, you know, so it's a 1097 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: it's a weird one. I don't know how they're gonna 1098 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,919 Speaker 1: you know, and they're talking about competitive advantages and things 1099 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: like that because some people are letting you know, um, 1100 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: the crowd in and you know as far as social 1101 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 1: distancing and maybe you know, quarter capacity whatever. But uh, 1102 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: that's a that's a great question. I really don't know. 1103 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: I really don't know how that's that's gonna affect. I 1104 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: know this that we used to prepare in this I 1105 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys were around boy, and we 1106 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: had the bubble out there and in Kirkland it looked 1107 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: like a big maggot. It was this big white you know, 1108 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: tent that they blew up and they would crank the 1109 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: noise in there during practice to get you ready. And 1110 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: that just used to annoy the heck out of me. 1111 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: I just couldn't stand it. But you know, it just 1112 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: was trying to get you ready for going on the 1113 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: road and play in front in front of a big crowd. 1114 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, that that always kind of kind of bugged me. 1115 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: And you know, and if it's quiet, I think it 1116 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: would be kind of interesting, kind of like in baseball, 1117 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: you hear the crack of the bat much more, you know, maybe, 1118 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, if it was just quiet, you you'd get 1119 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: to hear some of the hits and possibly guys, you know, 1120 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: yelling at each other and stuff like that. So yeah, 1121 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm I'm with you where I'm just 1122 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: kind of like waiting to see how this is gonna 1123 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,959 Speaker 1: play out, how these guys are, you know, to ask 1124 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: the players afterwards, it's going to be very interesting, like 1125 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: what what's that like? Like I want to ask Luca Wilson. 1126 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: I think he could probably give you like the most 1127 00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 1: interesting answer. But you know, how does that affect you 1128 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,479 Speaker 1: when you know it's just a machine making the noise 1129 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: versus people. He'll think it's some kind of conspiracy and 1130 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: he'll blame Jake for it, as he always does, of course, 1131 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: always always, all right, Quandre Diggs will join us on 1132 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: the phone. Next the Huddle continues. This is the Huddle 1133 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: every Thursday from noon to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. 1134 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: That wasn't funny. My co hosts are a couple of knuckleheads. 1135 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: All Curtis jo all day is tease me. I mean, 1136 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Stacy said that she would 1137 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: like to talk about the defensive backgroup, and I said, well, actually, 1138 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: I would prefer to talk about the secondary group. And 1139 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: you should have seen the look on her face. She 1140 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: was I'm just so confused. I didn't know what to 1141 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 1: make of it. Pretty much the same thing there, I guess, 1142 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: I know. I just I thought Jake was correct to me, 1143 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: and then I was like, maybe he didn't hear me. 1144 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: What what's happening? I would like to talk about defensive 1145 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: backgroup slash the secondary He heard you loud and clear, 1146 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: believe me. By the way, we're supposed to catch up 1147 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: with Quandre Diggs. Practice still going on at the moment, 1148 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: so hopefully we can squeeze him in by the end 1149 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: of the huddle. Here, you never really know. So my 1150 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: co hosts all of last year and in the offseason, Dave, 1151 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: we're trying in vain to convince me that the Seahawks 1152 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: were so much improved as soon as Quandre Diggs took 1153 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: the field with them last year. I know statistically that 1154 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: that's true. It was hard for me to see with 1155 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: my eyeballs. Do you agree, and how would you prove 1156 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 1: that case? Well, I guess I'd prove it from the 1157 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 1: standpoint that both Trey Flowers and Shaquille Griffin told us 1158 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: how much better they felt with Quandre Diggs back there, 1159 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: so you know, and that's the thing you listen to 1160 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: the players it. Yeah, that's kind of one of those 1161 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: things that's hard because you know what you don't hear. 1162 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you can see it sometimes, but it's just 1163 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: the communication and the way the safeties communicate that I 1164 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: had the good fortune a plan probably the two baddest 1165 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 1: dudes that ever played safety, I mean up two of 1166 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 1: them anyway, and one was Dennis Smith. Dennis Smith with 1167 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos. I mean, that guy would run through a 1168 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: wall and like if you told him to run through 1169 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: a brick wall, he would not hesitate at the point 1170 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 1: of contact him. He was just so tough, but not 1171 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a great communicator. And then the other guy was Steve Atwater, 1172 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: who was a great communicator. So I mean he just 1173 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 1: behind you saying, hey check this, Hey check that, you know, 1174 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: talking about it afterwards, Hey, you know when I play 1175 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 1: it this way, you do it that way. Yeah. And 1176 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: the numbers were there, I mean when he came in 1177 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the first game where he kind of hit the scene 1178 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: was the Monday night game, and there was like a 1179 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: five game stretch there where they got half their turnovers 1180 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: for the whole year, so it's sixteen of them takeaways, 1181 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 1: and he had a few of them, including the pick 1182 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: six against the Rams. So I just it's really nice 1183 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: having somebody back there that is communicates well and talks well, 1184 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: and you know, they just didn't have that. I mean, 1185 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Lano Hill. You have to be a 1186 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:34,200 Speaker 1: really confident player and have confidence in yourself before you 1187 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 1: start talking to other people, and that's what you When 1188 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: you have a guy that doesn't talk a lot. Two 1189 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: things could be I mean, it could be that he's 1190 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,439 Speaker 1: just quiet, but the other thing could be that he's 1191 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: not quite sure what he's doing. So when Diggs came in, 1192 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: that was I thought the difference, and you could see 1193 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: it a little bit on the field, but mostly, you know, 1194 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: I was listening to the players and when you're two 1195 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: corners who are two of the most vulnerable players on 1196 01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 1: the field, I mean, I think playing corner is really 1197 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 1: really tough. You know, you have to have a certain 1198 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: personality to be out there on an island playing against 1199 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 1: what are a group of people that are probably the 1200 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: greatest athletes in the world. I mean, Julio Jones, guys 1201 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: that can run, they can jump, they can catch. You know, 1202 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: they're physical. I mean you get look at Julio Jones 1203 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: and DK Metcalf scoring off this weekend. I mean, two 1204 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 1: of the best athletes in the world and you got 1205 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: to cover them and they know where they're going and 1206 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: you don't know where they're going. So I think, you know, 1207 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: having a safety back there that really is a good 1208 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: communicator and knows that you know, he's got your back, 1209 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: that helps the rest of the defense. And it's certainly 1210 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: showed him the numbers, but you know, I think more 1211 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: than anything just hearing that from his teammates, David, it's 1212 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: you talk about the communication. And one of the other 1213 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 1: things that really impressed me as we were watching training 1214 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: camp together was seeing how vocal not only Quandre Diggs was, 1215 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: but Jamal Adams and you see Shaquill Griffin, and you 1216 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: see you see Trey Flowers and Quitting Dunbar and Bobby 1217 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: Wagner and KG right, all those guys communicating everything out 1218 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 1: when it talks about motions and shifts and all those 1219 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: different things. It's really fun to watch from that standpoint 1220 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 1: as this group has just really look like it's gelled together. Okay, 1221 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: we got Quandri Digs on the line right now. Pleasure 1222 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 1: to have Quandre. And how are you today, sir? I'm good, 1223 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm good. Can't complain, man, just another work day, trying 1224 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: to get ready for Sunday. Quandre, how's the dB room 1225 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: feel right now? I mean, not just the excitement, but 1226 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 1: how do you feel as a collective group. You haven't 1227 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,080 Speaker 1: had much of an off season, but you may not 1228 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: want to listen to it. There's plenty of hype too. 1229 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we're feeling good, you know. I mean, we're 1230 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 1: going into the first week of the season, so it's 1231 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of excitement, a lot of 1232 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: players in this room that's ready to make plays and 1233 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 1: just go out and put together a full game, you 1234 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like you gotta say, the hype 1235 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: is there, but we're more worried about what we can 1236 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: handle on the field. We're more worried about our communication 1237 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: and locker room communica on and off the field. So 1238 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: we're just trying to be great and we're trying to 1239 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: set our own standard, not worry about anybody else standard. Yeah, Quandrie, 1240 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: speaking of that communication, we were just talking about that 1241 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: before you came on. And you know, talking about how 1242 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: last year, talking to Trey Flowers and talking to Shaquille, 1243 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 1: they both said, you know what a difference you make 1244 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: because because of your communication and you're understanding at the defense, 1245 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 1: And I imagine that's that's really ramped up with Jamal here, 1246 01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 1: and uh, that's just what I'm seeing out there. But 1247 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 1: kind of tell us what the difference is, because it 1248 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:34,160 Speaker 1: seems like you guys are out there just communicating really well, 1249 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: and that's such a key well, I think altogether, you 1250 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. First of all, we all have 1251 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: a great relationship off the field, so you know, it's 1252 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: a lot of texting, it's a lot of talking, you 1253 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We hang out, you know, I mean, 1254 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,919 Speaker 1: I know everybody always see me, Jamal and Shack hanging out. 1255 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean dunbars lockers right by mine, 1256 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, trades right there, Shacker is right there. 1257 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 1: So all of us are right by each other in 1258 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: the locker room. So things that we you know what 1259 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean, that we want to see and be on 1260 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: the same page, we can go talk about those things 1261 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: in the locker room also, so um, you know, I 1262 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: mean it's dope, you know, I mean bringing Jamal in here, 1263 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 1: bringing a guy that's full of energy, full of passion, 1264 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: somebody that's just gonna continue to go out and play 1265 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: and just have fun. And he keeps the you know 1266 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, he's more of the the you guys 1267 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: know me, I'm more I'm just chill, I'm laid back, 1268 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 1: but Jamal is more a high energy guy. Where he um, 1269 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 1: he's making sure everybody has a little pepper and that 1270 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 1: step of that practice and um, you can just tell 1271 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,200 Speaker 1: the way he practices how much he loves the game. 1272 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,959 Speaker 1: So um, he decided to get him in the room 1273 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 1: and Dunbar, he's just he's super smart, you know what 1274 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: I mean. He's intellectual, He talks, he sees things really fast. 1275 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 1: So you put that together with me, Shack Marquis, you 1276 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Trey, Um, you know, I mean, 1277 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 1: it's really fun to watch and it's fun to go 1278 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: to work each and every day with these guys. Quandre, 1279 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 1: could you take us a little bit behind the curtain 1280 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: here for a second. On game day, if something doesn't 1281 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 1: go right, and we know the game of football, uh 1282 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:58,080 Speaker 1: that that it's oftentimes there are things that aren't going 1283 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,720 Speaker 1: to go right. It's how you respond to those things. 1284 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,400 Speaker 1: So when you go back to the sideline and you 1285 01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,840 Speaker 1: guys are talking through something, maybe a play that got 1286 01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,640 Speaker 1: you u during the drive or what have you, what 1287 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 1: is that conversation like it? Is it finger pointing? Is 1288 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 1: it you know, diagramming and talking through it? What does 1289 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: that look like for you guys to then recapture, regroup 1290 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,919 Speaker 1: and get back on the same page. I mean, any 1291 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 1: secondary I've ever been in that ill that I'll be 1292 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: in for the rest of my career to never be 1293 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,160 Speaker 1: finger point, you know what I mean? That starts with 1294 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 1: the leaders and not consider myself as a leader. So 1295 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,920 Speaker 1: um not to never be the case in any secondary 1296 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: that I'll be in that my name is on, so 1297 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: it won't be any finger point. It'll be just more, um, 1298 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: get to the I pad, see what we can fix, 1299 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 1: See what they ran, and sometimes you know what I mean, 1300 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: they have plays set up to beat us and we 1301 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 1: just gotta get it fixed on the sideline. But it's 1302 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of smart guys talking on 1303 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: the sideline. Just tell us what we see starting the 1304 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 1: formation and the rocks that they ran, and um we 1305 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,520 Speaker 1: explain it into Dre Dre dre gets it back to us. 1306 01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: He figures out what we want to do, how we 1307 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: want to play it, and we go from there. And 1308 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you can't let one play ever, 1309 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: um take your confidence, take your squire out of you. 1310 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: So UM won't let that happen. But like I said, 1311 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 1: it's it'll be a lot of guys talking on the 1312 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: sideline that getting that point across, telling us what they've seen, 1313 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: and then we go, we make an understand it and 1314 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: we go back on the field. Be ready to go. 1315 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Talking to Quandre Diggs here on the huddle, you mentioned 1316 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 1: the personalities of the guys in that secondary You're laid back, 1317 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: you said, and Jamal Adams is like the intense guy. 1318 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 1: What about some of the other guys, Blair and Griffin, Dunbar, Flowers, 1319 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 1: what are their personalities like? How do how do they 1320 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 1: all mix together? I mean, I think we all mixed 1321 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 1: together great, you know what I mean. I think Keisa 1322 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,400 Speaker 1: is more like him and Jamal about they're about the same, 1323 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, both of those guys really intense. 1324 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 1: Uh they practiced the tell off and Um, Keisa he's 1325 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 1: just so willing to learn, you know what I mean. 1326 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,640 Speaker 1: It's his first time playing Nickel, and I have some 1327 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,680 Speaker 1: experience with nicols, so I'm trying to tell them a 1328 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 1: little nuggets that I used to do when I played 1329 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 1: Nickel and things like that, and Um, I think he's 1330 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the better Nickels in the league. Um, 1331 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: I think. Um With Dunbar, he's so smart, you know 1332 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 1: what I mean. People were saying, oh, he's you know, 1333 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: he's been behind because he hasn't been here with us, 1334 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 1: But he literally wasn't there for what the first week, 1335 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 1: week and a half or something like that, and he's 1336 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 1: come in. He's fitting. Um, he's chill, he's laid back, 1337 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he's super smart and talks. 1338 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,599 Speaker 1: And Shack is the same way. You know, I mean, 1339 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 1: Shack is he chilled, he's more you know what I mean. 1340 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 1: He's he's he knows exactly what he's doing. He has 1341 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: to plan for everything he does. And then you got Slim, 1342 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,759 Speaker 1: who's really smart, just goes out and work and he's quiet, 1343 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,639 Speaker 1: you know. I mean. So for me when I got 1344 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 1: here was kind of my My whole thing was kind 1345 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 1: of get him to talk a little bit more, kind 1346 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 1: of let him express how he feels about certain things 1347 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 1: and let him go from there, because I know he's 1348 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: a smart player. You know what I mean. He played 1349 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: safety in college and he moved the corner. So you've 1350 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 1: got to be a smart player to be able to 1351 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 1: play the safety position, you know what I mean. I 1352 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: know that. So I want to hear him talk a 1353 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 1: little bit more. Game is over on Sunday. What are 1354 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,799 Speaker 1: you hoping that Seahawks fans are thinking about this defense? 1355 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, what's that lasting impression you want to leave them? Oh? 1356 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 1: I just want people to know that we're fast and 1357 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 1: physical and when we play hard, yeah, I mean, no 1358 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: matter what happens, Um, yeah, I mean I want people 1359 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:12,920 Speaker 1: to know we're gonna play hard. We're gonna we're gonna 1360 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 1: throw our bodies around. Um, we're gonna be intense, We're 1361 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,600 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna play sixty minutes, and you know what 1362 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we come out with a win. Hopefully we 1363 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: come out with a win, and that's that's the most 1364 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 1: important thing, you know. I mean, we got a lot 1365 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,680 Speaker 1: of time to build, but you know what I mean, 1366 01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 1: you stacked w's up and you build and that sets 1367 01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:30,639 Speaker 1: you up good for them. Just season Quandre We really 1368 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us today. Best of luck in week one. 1369 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. Thank you appreciate it, thank you 1370 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: all having me. Thank you. Okay, Well, hopefully next now 1371 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: that we know practice sober for sure, we're gonna be 1372 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 1: catching up with Freddy Swain. That's next on the huddle. 1373 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,559 Speaker 1: This is the huddle every Thursday from noon to two 1374 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:59,759 Speaker 1: on seven ESPN Seattle. Hoping to catch up with Freddie 1375 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 1: sin here in a few minutes. In the meantime, we'll 1376 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: round out our thoughts on this game, Dave, what do 1377 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: you think the biggest advantage that the Hawks have in 1378 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 1: this game is against Atlanta? I think them not really 1379 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 1: knowing what the defense is going to look like. You know, 1380 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think that that Pete would change the defense. 1381 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,200 Speaker 1: And I say Pete, but you know Ken Norton, of course, 1382 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 1: But as much as they did last year, I was 1383 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: surprised by that. I was surprised that they went with uh, 1384 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,679 Speaker 1: you know, with bass personnel as much as they did. 1385 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: But I think it's it's more about getting the players, 1386 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, the right players on the field. So you know, 1387 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,599 Speaker 1: I think that that's what you're going to see, is 1388 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: I guess we bring in Freddie swayin here. Yeah, we're 1389 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: looking forward to have to seeing this big time passing 1390 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,320 Speaker 1: attack a lot of weapons and Freddie Swain joins us 1391 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 1: right now. Freddie, thanks for your time. We appreciate it. 1392 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Freddie. How is the reality of being on 1393 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 1: this NFL roster heading into week one hitting you right now? 1394 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 1: Because you guys didn't really have a preseason, you're jumping 1395 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 1: right into it. How are you feeling? How are you 1396 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: really feeling? Oh, I'm ready to go, you know, Uh, 1397 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: put in a lot of work, you know, just with 1398 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 1: the offense and defense, and things are finally coming together 1399 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,360 Speaker 1: and it's a wait to see the things like jail 1400 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday should be pretty fun to watch and in 1401 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 1: a surreal moment at the same time, if Freddie went 1402 01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 1: went to Florida of course and then grew up looks 1403 01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:34,520 Speaker 1: like in Ocala, Florida. What did you know about the Northwest? 1404 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 1: And when the Seahawks drafted you, did you have you 1405 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: been up here? Were you familiar with the team? What 1406 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: was what was going through your mind when you got drafted? Oh? 1407 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: When I when I first got drafted, I just knew 1408 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 1: it was really far away. I didn't really understand how 1409 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 1: far I was until I actually got on the plane 1410 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 1: and hit it out here. But no, this is my 1411 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,479 Speaker 1: first time, but it's been it's been great. You know, 1412 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 1: the weather is a lot different, you know, and the 1413 01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: guys welcome, welcomed me with open arms. So, man, I 1414 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 1: came to a great organization, so I can't be nothing. 1415 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm blessed, Freddie. It really looked like in the middle 1416 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 1: to the second half of trainee camp you really just 1417 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 1: took off. You kind of found your own and really 1418 01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 1: started looking comfortable and making plays and really kind of 1419 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,759 Speaker 1: developing a relationship there with Russell Wilson, which obviously helped 1420 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: you solidify your spot on the active roster. What was 1421 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 1: that process like, just trying to learn and grow through 1422 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: training camp and then you know, really trying to gain 1423 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 1: a rapport with Russell Wilson. Um, it was it was 1424 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: just learning a playbook and learning why I was doing things, 1425 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, while I was running a certain route or 1426 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 1: while I was getting certained up. So, UM, I think 1427 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,600 Speaker 1: DK helped a lot. You know, I just called d 1428 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,280 Speaker 1: K and we'll talk about things, you know, and I 1429 01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 1: just got a lot of my confidence back, and you know, 1430 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 1: I just just started having fun with it again. So um, 1431 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,720 Speaker 1: A lot of credit goes to DK and helping me 1432 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 1: make another transition to playing ball again. So um, I 1433 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,719 Speaker 1: think that's what it was, just slowing things down and 1434 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 1: understanding it for myself and not moving too fast and 1435 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 1: just being aware of what I'm doing. Freddie, what was 1436 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: draft weekend like for you? I mean, sixth round pick? 1437 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 1: Were you glued to it the whole time? Were you 1438 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: taking breaks for you with your family? How did that 1439 01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: whole thing go? So? I was just chilling. I was 1440 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,519 Speaker 1: just watching it, you know how. I clicked back and 1441 01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 1: forth from channel to channel, and um, I finally got 1442 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 1: the call on the last day, and um, it was 1443 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,400 Speaker 1: just a surreal moment at the time, like I couldn't 1444 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,240 Speaker 1: really believe what was going on. So um, it was 1445 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:45,519 Speaker 1: very nerve wracking. Now there hasn't been any hazing of 1446 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 1: any kind. Has there no welcome to the NFL moment 1447 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: from the rest of the receivers. No, they're pretty cool. 1448 01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:58,479 Speaker 1: It was pretty good. If Freddie, about twenty years from now, 1449 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,679 Speaker 1: you need to go into radio. You got a really 1450 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,880 Speaker 1: cool voice, So just think about that after a long 1451 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: NFL career. But you know, how difficult. I always hear 1452 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,120 Speaker 1: from from young receivers that it's it's one of the 1453 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,560 Speaker 1: tougher positions to adjust from college. You know, some of 1454 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,559 Speaker 1: the landmarks, of course are different on the field, and 1455 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: then you know just the precision of the routes and everything. 1456 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 1: What is what's been some of the challenging things that 1457 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 1: that you faced. The challenging things is just um, I 1458 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 1: kind of like like at first I was playing outside 1459 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 1: and inside, so I would just learn me I was 1460 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 1: trying to learn all three positions, and um, I would 1461 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 1: just like get some things confused, and like I could 1462 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: be at an outside receiver and I was thinking about 1463 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: the inside receiver route, you know, and just things like that, 1464 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 1: which I you know, talked with DK and just slowed 1465 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,680 Speaker 1: things down for me. And now I don't got to 1466 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,639 Speaker 1: hang over. So now it's just a matter of going 1467 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 1: out there and doing it. But I think coach Billy 1468 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 1: g and coach Mollenham in Florida it did a really 1469 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: good job of helping it making me the transition a 1470 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 1: lot easier from the program we were in and the 1471 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: way they taught things. So um, a big shout out 1472 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: to those guys. Freddie, what has it been like Pete 1473 01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: Carroll and this organization is just a whirlwind. You know. No, 1474 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 1: remember my time being here with the Seahawks. It was 1475 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 1: just such a blast going to work every day. What 1476 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 1: has that environment been like? Uh? From your experience, it 1477 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 1: makes it feel like it's not worked. You know. We come, 1478 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 1: we play, we shoot hooves at each other, we laugh, 1479 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 1: we joke, you know, and it makes your job a 1480 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 1: lot easier when you're having fun. So, um, it's a 1481 01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,360 Speaker 1: very cool environment. All the guys have fun, all the 1482 01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,600 Speaker 1: guys get along, and um, you just couldn't ask for 1483 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 1: a better workplace growing up in Florida, Freddie, were you 1484 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:53,360 Speaker 1: a fan of any one team or player? Um? No, 1485 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 1: I'll just watched football. I'll just watch it. Is there 1486 01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,840 Speaker 1: a piece of advice you've gotten this week? You mentioned 1487 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: talking to DK a lot. Is there anything that he 1488 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 1: said that maybe you're repeating to yourself, Like when I 1489 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 1: think of things that maybe I've gotten good advice and 1490 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 1: I just kind of repeat that in my head once 1491 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,680 Speaker 1: in a while. M He just like something little like 1492 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 1: it was like probably something little to him, but it 1493 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 1: was kind of big to me. Just said, he just said, 1494 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 1: be yourself, you know. Um, don't try to do too much. 1495 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Don't try to you know what I'm saying, just yea, 1496 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: do what got you here? And once I just figured 1497 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 1: that out and just stop caring about things and not 1498 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,640 Speaker 1: like not caring about things, but you know it just 1499 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 1: got back to my old stuff and just went to 1500 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 1: having found a playing football, you know. Yeah, that's what 1501 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 1: helped me with the transition. Weren't trying to be anyone else, right, 1502 01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 1: And and there's and there's a million million things going 1503 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 1: through your mind. You're trying to impress, you're trying to 1504 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: do all these different things. At times you can you 1505 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 1: can start playing tight right, Great, Hey, Freddie, were you 1506 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: surprised by how like welcoming and all the because you 1507 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,960 Speaker 1: know earlier that you Stacy asked you about you know, 1508 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 1: the hazing which really doesn't go on in the NFL 1509 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: and don't believe you. Yeah, well maybe a little bit. 1510 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 1: I mean sometimes they might ask you to take them 1511 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: out to a really expensive dinner, Freddie, that might be 1512 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 1: the extent of it. But were you kind of surprised 1513 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,800 Speaker 1: by how I mean, Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf two 1514 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: of the nicest guys and just generous and you know, 1515 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,240 Speaker 1: sometimes receivers can be a little uh, you know, they 1516 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,080 Speaker 1: can be a little on the side of you know, 1517 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 1: being devastion and things like that. But this, this has 1518 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 1: got to be a great room, especially with those two 1519 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 1: guys talk about how they sort of set the town 1520 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:36,679 Speaker 1: in that receiver meeting room. So like DK Demo and Tyler, 1521 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 1: they're you know, they're they're cool. You know, they don't 1522 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,479 Speaker 1: really like the things Coach tells them. They passed on 1523 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,080 Speaker 1: to us. You know, if if we don't really get 1524 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 1: the message or we don't really get what's going on, 1525 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 1: they'll pass it on in a different perspective, you know, 1526 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 1: something maybe something that we could catch on too. And 1527 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 1: those guys don't hold any information. They'll let you know 1528 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 1: what's going on, like they'll pass all the information to you. 1529 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 1: So none of them guys are says, it's not a 1530 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 1: selfish guy in that room. So I mean, I just 1531 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,599 Speaker 1: keep it harping on. Like the organization. It's just great, 1532 01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,759 Speaker 1: you know, And I think that comes from the top, 1533 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, with Coach Carroll and the way they act 1534 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,800 Speaker 1: and things like that. So, um, I mean our room 1535 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 1: is great. Other rooms are great. So I mean we're 1536 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 1: just having fun. Freddy, We appreciate you coming out with us, 1537 01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 1: and best of luck this season too. You yeah, thank 1538 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 1: you so much, appreciate it all right, that's Freddy Sway 1539 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: got to talk with whole Yeah, very nice kid. I 1540 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: got to talk with a whole bunch of people today, 1541 01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,200 Speaker 1: John Boyle, Andy bunker down in Atlanta, Ray Robert, Steve Rabel, 1542 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,439 Speaker 1: Quandre Diggs, and Freddy swayin quickly, Dave before we wrap, 1543 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 1: what do you got going on tonight? Ah? We got 1544 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,720 Speaker 1: the Hawks Live. Actually I'm a late fill in for 1545 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: Paul Moyer, so uh yeah, me and Michael bump Is 1546 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 1: seven to nine Hawks Live. Seven to nine was a 1547 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 1: late scratch by the way, okay, and is that originating 1548 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 1: from everybody's home? How's that working? I think we're doing 1549 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,639 Speaker 1: it from the vMac, so oh okay. You know where 1550 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 1: Jake broadcasts out on the picnic table up. He tries 1551 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 1: to cover the mic with his hand when it's windy, 1552 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 1: and then he just sounds like he's on a chopper. 1553 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 1: Hopefully there's no wind down there. That's right. Yeah, it's 1554 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,639 Speaker 1: gonna get cold out there come December, but we'll worry 1555 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: about telling. Thanks. Thanks for joining us table. We appreciate it. 1556 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,719 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, all right, have a good day. All right, Tom, 1557 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,799 Speaker 1: Jake and Stacy gets going next. This has been addle