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Speaker 2: There was another higher old line kid. Pete Carroll was
Speaker 2: hired as head coach of the Raiders. Pee Carrolls and
Speaker 2: the Raiders have reached agreement on a three year deal
Speaker 2: with a team option for fourth. When the regular season start,
Speaker 2: Carol will become the oldest person to ever serve as
Speaker 2: head coaching the NFL. He turns seventy four in September.
Speaker 2: The previous record was held by Romeo crdinal, who was
Speaker 2: seventy three when he served the interim head coach of
Speaker 2: the Houston, Texans.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, do you like this queen?
Speaker 1: It's Pete Carroll. I like Pete Carroll peaces resume. You know,
Speaker 1: it speaks for herself what he's done. He's a super
Speaker 1: Bowl winning head coach. Again, when I look at what
Speaker 1: he has to work with over in Las Vegas, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure why he would want to. Maybe he knows
Speaker 1: something we don't know. Maybe he knows something, you know,
Speaker 1: he has something cooking.
Speaker 3: What about what he wants? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know, but still, I mean, just just going to
Speaker 1: take a job knowing that your least is gonna be short,
Speaker 1: knowing that you don't have the most important position on
Speaker 1: your team, on that team that matters, be able to
Speaker 1: compete and contend, and that do you know what conference
Speaker 1: division he's at?
Speaker 2: Yes, AFCF West, Charger charge it. Yeah, all of them
Speaker 2: got quarterbacks. Everybody got more.
Speaker 3: Crazy. So I'm not sure that he got to be
Speaker 3: thinking about something eating mustar, cooking up something with Mark Davis.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and Chad, y'all can help me.
Speaker 2: You understand, you're seventy years old. This thirty two year
Speaker 2: old thing, she nice got long hair, she got ooh
Speaker 2: skin built stacked like dirty laundry and the dawn night
Speaker 2: hair donald back. And when she stepped, she was stepper,
Speaker 2: y'all do what I'm talking about, Hills, stepper y'all will
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 3: She's gonna have on wire seal, she'll have on four,
Speaker 3: she'll have on them blood boums.
Speaker 2: Everything is, everything is a maculate and she's interested in you.
Speaker 3: You taking that?
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll said about to be seventy four. How many
Speaker 2: jobs you think he gonna get in the NFL at
Speaker 2: the age of seventy?
Speaker 3: Who you going with it?
Speaker 1: I like it to listen when you put it like that,
Speaker 1: and when you give me that kind of analogy, I like him.
Speaker 3: You going with it?
Speaker 1: But everything you just said, you know you said about
Speaker 1: tom Ford, you know, yeah, you know the nice shoes
Speaker 1: and she's a step up. Well everything you just describing
Speaker 1: that woman ain't the goddamn Las Vegas Raiders. It don't
Speaker 1: forget you know now the lost the Las Vegas Raiders
Speaker 1: is the one where your homeboys say, hey boy, I shop,
Speaker 1: I need to want to take them for the team tonight.
Speaker 1: Now all of them the one I got.
Speaker 3: You know, she's a team.
Speaker 1: Now her friend she says she had to bring her
Speaker 1: friend with her. Now her friend is on the stick.
Speaker 1: But you take on the last Vegas traders. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: it's like like getting getting ready to be the head
Speaker 1: coach for the chiefs or something.
Speaker 3: But you have to understand the old Joe. She's shown interest.
Speaker 3: Now she ain't got to have on nothing.
Speaker 2: She might come out the house with crops, she might
Speaker 2: come out the house with that bonnet on.
Speaker 3: But she's thirty two. Who her Let me, let me
Speaker 3: get let me give her visuals together. Now, how tall
Speaker 3: are we talking? How tall are we talking?
Speaker 2: She somewhere between She somewhere between five seven and five nine.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. I'm gonna do you one better.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do you one better because we both we
Speaker 1: both talked, let's just make it. Just just make a
Speaker 1: five five five nine five ten. So when she put
Speaker 1: some when she put some heels on, we call the amazon.
Speaker 2: Thirty two got a nice job. She makes six figures,
Speaker 2: little six figures. When you see how she ain't got
Speaker 2: nothing on. She carried, she carried Louis all the time.
Speaker 2: She got her own, got her own crib, got her
Speaker 2: own car.
Speaker 1: And you gotta be careful now because because everything you
Speaker 1: described right now as a woman.
Speaker 3: She talked back, that's okay. I listened, she talked.
Speaker 2: I listened all though if you talk about no joke, Hey,
Speaker 2: I about to be fit yourself. Man, I have fitted
Speaker 2: you all that. I'll past that stage, Joe, Joe, what
Speaker 2: I got to where the pass? And I just gotta
Speaker 2: be by way? Oh no, She talked back, like.
Speaker 3: Yo, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2: You're right. I didn't want to go over there. Why
Speaker 2: didn't you tell me this yesterday?
Speaker 3: I like it? I like this is I understanding you
Speaker 3: at This is a different phase he in life, and
Speaker 3: you under you have to understand. You don't have to.
Speaker 3: It's not like he Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2: See yeah, Tom Brady wanted Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, I
Speaker 2: ain't got no quarterback. Yeah, ideally, would I like to
Speaker 2: be in the same division. No, But I got a
Speaker 2: quarterback over here. I got skilllesses over here. I got
Speaker 2: a lot of cap space and I can build. Guess what.
Speaker 2: I got a quarterback on a rookie contract, so I
Speaker 2: can put some pieces around it.
Speaker 3: But you got a little time, got about two more years.
Speaker 3: Got two more years.
Speaker 2: So withould that being said on Joe, But Pete being
Speaker 2: seventy about to be seventy four.
Speaker 3: Think about it.
Speaker 2: In the history of the game third only one other coach,
Speaker 2: Romeo was seventy three, and he was introl. Wasn't had
Speaker 2: he wasn't you know that wasn't Somebody hired him and
Speaker 2: gave him the job. He just took over. So for me,
Speaker 2: it was for Pete, it's a no brainer. Now Pete
Speaker 2: can't build a team. We saw what he did with Seattle.
Speaker 2: But Russ came to him in the third round. I
Speaker 2: think Russe was a third round draft pick, and we
Speaker 2: saw what happened. They had a great defense. They built
Speaker 2: that thing. They had be Wagged, they had Sharp, they
Speaker 2: had Chancellor, they had Earl, they had Malcolm Smith, they
Speaker 2: had Bennett, they had Cliff April, they had Red, they
Speaker 2: had a squad.
Speaker 3: Russ come in.
Speaker 2: Remember now that they assigned Matt Flinn in free agency
Speaker 2: from Green Bay.
Speaker 3: He was expected. They gave him ten million dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 3: had a thirty million dollar contract, ten million dollars signing bonus,
Speaker 3: and he never touched the feel of Russ beading Mountain Camp.
Speaker 3: Crazy how that worked.
Speaker 2: Hey, and maybe they can maybe they can maybe he
Speaker 2: can strike light. He under sees the thing is on Joe.
Speaker 2: He understands. He's been a head coach a lot of
Speaker 2: differ stops. He's head coach at the Jets, he's head
Speaker 2: coaching the Patriots, head coach in Seattle, head coach here,
Speaker 2: head coach at USC. And you look at what he did.
Speaker 2: USC was. USC was not winning before Pete got there.
Speaker 2: He put USC back on the bath. Now you not
Speaker 2: old enough to remember when USC had that juggernaut late
Speaker 2: sixties and the through the seventies.
Speaker 3: They were in.
Speaker 2: Hell they were loaded there. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I
Speaker 2: mean you got to think about it. They had Charles
Speaker 2: White and Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Joey Browner Ross, all.
Speaker 3: The all those guys.
Speaker 2: So they were they were really Lynn Kane, all those
Speaker 2: guys were in that backfield, they were really they were
Speaker 2: really good mun Yos.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think Don mose Barb was on that team.
Speaker 3: They were, they were, they were loaded. But Pete knows
Speaker 3: how to build a team.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you look at
Speaker 2: the teams when he's had his best most always it
Speaker 2: matters and without him, So Russell Russ, Pete reunite in open.
Speaker 2: I mean, Emmy Russ Russell Wilson. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good one. I like, I like,
Speaker 2: I like what you're thinking. That's the possibility. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I am not sure. Damn.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. A quarterback that you're familiar with,
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you want a super Bowl with, you know.
Speaker 1: But there were some there were some issues internally.
Speaker 2: You want to go back, like, nah bro, I see
Speaker 2: the pete was like I see diminishing spirs. Nah bro I,
Speaker 2: I really try to give you two hundred Russell bro
Speaker 2: I A and you know, hey, spend the bar. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 2: you know, some type of thing be so bad on you.
Speaker 3: You've got a choice. But I don't.
Speaker 2: That ain't what that ain't what I said out, but
Speaker 2: something sometimes you have to do. You know that half
Speaker 2: your age plus ever minus three. So that's where I
Speaker 2: come forward. That's that's you know, that's why I stay
Speaker 2: right here on Joe. I ain't going outside of it,
Speaker 2: you know, side to side, side to side, right here,
Speaker 2: but I ain't going outside the box.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe hey, you know, put it on who it is.
Speaker 3: Maybe you know what I'm talking about. You know what
Speaker 3: you dog talking about?
Speaker 2: O Joe, you do say the aid some you know, hey,
Speaker 2: uh like I say, boy, ain't twenty seven the thirty
Speaker 2: seven different?
Speaker 3: It's different. Listen. You know it's good.
Speaker 1: You know it's good about us is really understanding and
Speaker 1: realizing we're not.
Speaker 3: Yes, we're not the same as we were as we go.
Speaker 1: No, we understand what we're capable of doing at our age.
Speaker 1: Now we did it out in our teams in twenties
Speaker 1: and thirties.
Speaker 3: Man, we ain't pulling that. We're not pulling that shit
Speaker 3: off at this.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, why I ain't even look, I ain't
Speaker 2: fin I ain't in the grab. No, twenty five year
Speaker 2: old like I could when I was thirty two, thirty three.
Speaker 2: I already know that right now, Oh Joe, I'm ana
Speaker 2: when I can, not when I want to.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Oh Yoe, I'm when I tell you, not when I
Speaker 2: want to understand that Yet understable state, we wi not
Speaker 2: stay with it.
Speaker 3: There's a different between it two. You know what, you
Speaker 3: know what you got? You got self awareness.
Speaker 1: Awareness is so important, but it's lasing Sony, so many
Speaker 1: of our men today, it's lacking in so many of
Speaker 1: our kind of things.
Speaker 3: You can keep up and do some of the things
Speaker 3: you did when you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm hey, I'm who I am about to
Speaker 2: be eight six months fit your selven now, I don't
Speaker 2: look it.
Speaker 3: I still I'm in shaved.
Speaker 2: You know. I eat my vedget and do my alms.
Speaker 2: But hey, at the end of the day, they hit
Speaker 2: that guy. Hoop, damn, damn.
Speaker 3: Fifty fifty seven, yeah, h fifty salvemn.
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, old Joe, you know sometimes you have to, Hey,
Speaker 2: catch the scraggle coming out of the superpark.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm that, I'm lead Listen, I'm leading up.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a nineteen. It's two strikes and three balls.
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do now? On a corner to a
Speaker 3: two minutes two minute drive? Hey, I'm wid Hey you
Speaker 3: seen your car for a little while. Watch you go
Speaker 3: hit it out?
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh Joe, she looks as desperate as I am.
Speaker 2: You desperate, I'm desperate. Hell, let's make this lamper, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: In a crazy turn of events, the Jacksonville Jaguars are
Speaker 2: finalizing a deal to hire Bucks offensive coordinator Lim Cohen
Speaker 2: as their next head coach. The move comes after Cohen
Speaker 2: agreed to an extension with the Buccaneers and removed himself
Speaker 2: from the consideration for the Jags job. Cohen met with
Speaker 2: Jaguars on Thursday to discuss the vacancy, despite the news
Speaker 2: of his return to Tampa, which would have made him
Speaker 2: the highest paid coordinator in NFL history. Jacksonville reportedly reached
Speaker 2: out to Coin after the team fired Trent Bauki to
Speaker 2: see if he would reconsider the offer, and after their talks,
Speaker 2: it appears Jacksonville has their guy.
Speaker 3: Well, I like it. I liked it. And the fact
Speaker 3: that the fact that.
Speaker 1: He chose to leave even though the Bucks were gonna
Speaker 1: make him the highest paid off of the coordinator.
Speaker 3: You know they gonna make it by d he gonna
Speaker 3: make or then we were gonna make a jack How
Speaker 3: you figure.
Speaker 2: He's gonna make at least seven million dollars with the
Speaker 2: Jacks the highest paid court, they'd probably make h make.
Speaker 3: Three million dollars.
Speaker 2: We remember, we just talked about spack Noler making free
Speaker 2: That's what I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: But if they if they, if they're telling him to
Speaker 1: leave the job, we want you to reconsider I'm sure
Speaker 1: allowing him to set the market on whatever it is.
Speaker 2: No, they're gonna ask him to know, the Jags asked
Speaker 2: him to reconsider, so they're gonna give him a head
Speaker 2: coaching job, which would probably be somewhere around seven million.
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers was only gonna give him three
Speaker 2: million million.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, not just saying said okay, I had
Speaker 1: it backwards, but I knew he was leaping law Jacksonville Nobody.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And and look and you're over everything. You're
Speaker 2: you know, you're responsible. I mean, the head coach comes
Speaker 2: with a lot of responsibilities. You're not You're not responsible
Speaker 2: for one side of the ball. You're responsible for the
Speaker 2: whole ball. Offense, defense, special teams. When we're gonna practice,
Speaker 2: What time we're gonna meet? Okay, what's the uh uh?
Speaker 2: What's the training? You know what I'm saying. As far
Speaker 2: as weight schedule? Okay, injured players, what time did they
Speaker 2: have to be there? How long the meeting's gonna laugh last?
Speaker 2: What time are we gonna leave Ohoe for road trips?
Speaker 2: Where are we're gonna stay? All that goes on the
Speaker 2: head coaches. Uh so, congratulations, I mean I hated for
Speaker 2: Baker because Baker had really under his guidance.
Speaker 3: Yep, he was Baker. Baker had.
Speaker 2: Baker had looked like the Baker that they took. That
Speaker 2: the reason why they took it. With the number one
Speaker 2: overall pick I thanked in twenty sixteen. The last two
Speaker 2: years he showed you why, and a lot of that
Speaker 2: had to do, I believe had to do with Liam Cohen.
Speaker 2: Not to say Baker doesn't have talent, because obviously you
Speaker 2: go first overall, you got ballent, but I think he
Speaker 2: had found someone that believed in him, that had an
Speaker 2: offense that was really catered to what he does really well.
Speaker 2: He had nice quality receivers outside with Mike Evans. Even
Speaker 2: though Chris god got hurt this year, the young guys
Speaker 2: had come along. I love the running backs that they got,
Speaker 2: but I hate this. I hate this for Baker, but
Speaker 2: I'm excited for someone to get an opportunity to be
Speaker 2: a head coach because hey, last two years, he's done
Speaker 2: a great job as an OC for Tampa and he's
Speaker 2: getting rewarded for his hard work.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's dope. So what do you think, O Joe?
Speaker 3: You liked him? Absolutely? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Listen if he can do, if he can do, if
Speaker 1: he can do what he did for Baker, imagine what
Speaker 1: we will do for Trevor Lawrence. Baker Mayfield had Mike Evans.
Speaker 1: Now young young Bullets has stood over there in Jacksonville. Now, Chack,
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all paid attention to Brian Thomin Junior.
Speaker 1: But he's the reason he's in the Pro Bowl. Here's
Speaker 1: a reason he's in the Pro Bowl. So that magic
Speaker 1: he had in Tampa with Baker and Mike Evans has
Speaker 1: always been Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: But I'm sure he.
Speaker 1: Can create that same between Trevor Larrence and get him
Speaker 1: turned around.
Speaker 3: You know, after getting that huge and Brian at Thomas Jr.
Speaker 1: Thegle your security blanket right there, your security banker right there, traffick,
Speaker 1: Yeah there, your security.
Speaker 2: Blame your break, Tank, Bigsby. I think you probably need
Speaker 2: to do a little bit more with the offensive line.
Speaker 3: Shure that up.
Speaker 2: I think they got a pretty good defense. Maybe look
Speaker 2: at look at a corner, look at it. Look you
Speaker 2: got a high draft pick, you got a quarterback. You
Speaker 2: don't need a quarterback. I wouldn't spend a high draft
Speaker 2: pick on a wide receiver. I wouldn't spend a high
Speaker 2: draft pick on a tight end. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's anyone that's worthy to be selected. Uh is there
Speaker 2: an offensive lineman that's worthy of a pick that high?
Speaker 2: Probably not, Maybe a defensive lineman, maybe a dB. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you got Trevor Lawnce, you got Brian Thomas Jr. You
Speaker 2: got Evan Ingram, you got Tank Bigsby. Uh, you got
Speaker 2: Trevor at In. I mean, uh, your every atn So
Speaker 2: you got some nice quality pieces. But you gotta have
Speaker 2: to protect. You're gonna have to protect Traiv and he's
Speaker 2: gonna have to do a job and protect him. They
Speaker 2: have the number one pick, right, No, Tennessee has the
Speaker 2: number one pick.
Speaker 3: Okay, that means Chad Door, the shut Door is going first.
Speaker 3: Then Jacksonville's at five.
Speaker 1: So let me see it's uh, Chadur probably goes first
Speaker 1: to Tennessee.
Speaker 3: The second would be I think Cleveland's at two. Then
Speaker 3: cam Wore would probably go too. And who are in
Speaker 3: New England is three? Right?
Speaker 2: No Giants are three? New England's four, Jacksonville's five.
Speaker 3: That might that might be a shaker right there two
Speaker 3: at three.
Speaker 2: I'm the question is what would Tennessee be moving to
Speaker 2: move down. Is there somebody that's in the dry have
Speaker 2: that Tennessee says we must be, we must have and
Speaker 2: we don't believe he'll be He'll be available if we
Speaker 2: slide down to three, four, five, six, seven. That's the question,
Speaker 2: O Joe. Because the question is, are Tennessee one player away,
Speaker 2: O Joe?
Speaker 3: Or do you de most? Okay?
Speaker 2: If I can slide down and get next year's first
Speaker 2: round there, get a maybe pick up a second or
Speaker 2: third this year and a second and third next year
Speaker 2: and in twenty seven maybe get a fourth, I think
Speaker 2: that's the that's the best option because I don't think
Speaker 2: any of these teams are one player away.
Speaker 3: Now. Obviously everybody's not going.
Speaker 2: To slide down, But if I can, if I can,
Speaker 2: if I can slide down, Ojoe and really really really build,
Speaker 2: I think I don't.
Speaker 1: See anyone slide down, especially with the players that that
Speaker 1: that we have one that are slotted in the modern
Speaker 1: drafts to go top five.
Speaker 3: I don't see any team coming out of coming out
Speaker 3: of those No.
Speaker 2: All right, should uh Mark draft O Joe? Should door
Speaker 2: Sanders one? Tennessee Abdual Carter, the edge rusher out of
Speaker 2: Penn State two cam Ward quarterback out of Miami. Three
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, the all purpose, all, do it all wide receiver,
Speaker 2: cornerback New England, Mason Graham d Lion Michigan, Will Johnson,
Speaker 2: UH cornerback Michigan, Will Campbell, offensive lineman O t Jets. Now,
Speaker 2: this is just the mark obviously clearly Tennessee needs a
Speaker 2: court now, you know, listening to it and talk today,
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, we're willing to bring Will Levins back, but.
Speaker 3: Kind of informed it that this is gonna be competition.
Speaker 1: We know, we know what that means, and maybe that
Speaker 1: need to be good a good thing for Will. Maybe
Speaker 1: that'd be a good thing, having someone to help the
Speaker 1: foreshoot compete at a high level. You know, the foreshoot
Speaker 1: to to minds your mistakes because you know, when you
Speaker 1: got somebody looking over your shoulder, they can do two things.
Speaker 1: It could either make you or it can break you.
Speaker 1: That's a lot, that's a lot of that's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure when you know you can't make no mistakes,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to play mistake free football, then you
Speaker 1: start to press, you start press.
Speaker 3: Let me listening, That ain't a good thing. It depends
Speaker 3: on how he's built. Mentally, I agree. I think the
Speaker 3: thing is old Joe, is that.
Speaker 2: Ap did a disservice to the Raiders by winning that
Speaker 2: game because they laid down from one all the way six.
Speaker 2: So there's a possibility that you could, look, you can
Speaker 2: lose out on cam Ward and you do it.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen on in the war room, you never know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: You never know what goes on.
Speaker 1: They have those phones in there for a reason, so
Speaker 1: maybe something may happen, you know, before the draft, or
Speaker 1: you know, during the draft, and maybe somebody comes up
Speaker 1: and snatches the player that they want on their board
Speaker 1: to make sure he doesn't get away.
Speaker 2: Well, they really don't have a whole lot of tradable pieces.
Speaker 3: The one piece they got the.
Speaker 2: Crosby mat Max Cosby Crosby, that's that's the one piece
Speaker 2: that everybody would be willing to give up a first
Speaker 2: round pick or multiple picks.
Speaker 3: Four.
Speaker 2: I don't see anybody else on that roster that they
Speaker 2: would be willing to give that up for.
Speaker 3: Brock Bowers. But they're not trading brock Bios hell no.
Speaker 2: But Max Crosby is the only one that I see
Speaker 2: that has the that has the capital attached to him
Speaker 2: that somebody would be willing to give up. He's the
Speaker 2: most valuable He and brock Biers are the most valuable pieces. Well,
Speaker 2: clearly they're not trading brock Boyers, but I don't think
Speaker 2: the Raiders are one player away.
Speaker 3: But they need damn quarterback. That's what they need. They
Speaker 3: absolutely need a cord that situation, and then you build
Speaker 3: around Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: After taking several days, Mark Andrews publicly apologized for dropping
Speaker 2: the ball on what would have been a game time
Speaker 2: two point conversion. It is impossible to adequately express how
Speaker 2: I feel. I'm absolutely gutted by what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 2: I'm devastating for my teammates, my coaches, and Ravens fans.
Speaker 2: I pour every ounce of my being into playing at
Speaker 2: the highest level possible because I love my team and
Speaker 2: I love the game of football like nothing else. That
Speaker 2: is why it's taken me until now to collect my
Speaker 2: thoughts and address this publicly. Even though the shocking disappointment
Speaker 2: are unlike anything I've felt before, I refuse to let
Speaker 2: this situation define me. I promise that this adverse adversity
Speaker 2: will only make me stronger and fuel us as we
Speaker 2: move forward. I think everyone that has shown me and
Speaker 2: our team genuine support these past several days. Despite the
Speaker 2: name activity, I've seen heartfelt love and encouragement, including from
Speaker 2: those who have generously donated to the Breakthrough T one
Speaker 2: D organization. Even when the moment seemed darkest perspective can
Speaker 2: reveal that there is still a lot of light in
Speaker 2: this world. I'm not going to do my part to
Speaker 2: bounce back and contribute to it. Hashtag God bless oh Joe.
Speaker 2: Was this necessary?
Speaker 5: No? No, not at all, Not at all. There's nothing
Speaker 5: you can do. There's no point of you know, writing
Speaker 5: writing an apology. They're ups and downs, their obstacles, their
Speaker 5: hurdles in the game. You know, anybody on the outside
Speaker 5: of that locker room and apology. You talk to your players,
Speaker 5: you talk to your teammates, you talk to your coaches.
Speaker 3: You know, and you let them know how you feel.
Speaker 1: There's no need you apologizing publicly to everyone that hasn't
Speaker 1: put it the work you've done. They're not there in
Speaker 1: training camp with you. They're not their meetings with you. No,
Speaker 1: they're not bleeding with you. They're not going to war
Speaker 1: out there with you now, they do support you because
Speaker 1: they are fans of the team. Any apologies should be
Speaker 1: had should be had within that team to individual players
Speaker 1: and nobody else, if that's what you see fit in doing.
Speaker 3: But that's the birth of brotherhood.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know they're not gonna be talking trash about you,
Speaker 1: and oh maybe you just know it happens.
Speaker 3: Oh yo, I mean I remember Ernest Byner and I
Speaker 3: e B. I know e B. I mean knew EB
Speaker 3: a long time.
Speaker 2: He was in Baltimore when I was there, it stayed
Speaker 2: in contact with him. He formed the ball, he's running
Speaker 2: into the m zon o yother he had a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They would have put the bull to put the Browns
Speaker 2: in front of the Broncos and got pulled it out.
Speaker 2: It happens, It happens. Look at Billy Buckler. The ball
Speaker 2: went right through his legs. M Johnson had a situation.
Speaker 2: They used to call it. They called him tragic. He
Speaker 2: had a chance to win the game. He drove the
Speaker 2: time out. They lost it over time. He was a
Speaker 2: two time finals MVP. So Frians are gonna turn Look,
Speaker 2: I don't care what you've done.
Speaker 3: Or they'll turn on your quick man. They're turning you quick.
Speaker 3: Their lawyercy is not with you.
Speaker 1: The lawyercy is there with you simply because you're a
Speaker 1: part of the roof. For Yeah, that's it and that
Speaker 1: that is it.
Speaker 2: And I just say the thing is, he came out,
Speaker 2: he had come out much better. Just ad I'm devastating, guys.
Speaker 2: We had an opportunity to tie this game up, like
Speaker 2: our chances from that point on and just lifting it.
Speaker 3: But Ojo, you can't run. You can't run. You don't
Speaker 3: have to say anything. It ain't about running.
Speaker 2: No, o Joe, You've got to speak after the media
Speaker 2: le mess your question. Had he called had he called
Speaker 2: it and they won, do you think Mark Andrews would
Speaker 2: have spoils yea, yeah, yeah, Oh he didn't he Why
Speaker 2: you said he don't have to speak?
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean you know what I'm saying. Write that
Speaker 1: that written letter that like that, like that we've got.
Speaker 3: That's nothing necessary.
Speaker 2: You've got, Joe, this is who I'm a firm believer.
Speaker 2: You have to be able to handle adversity the same
Speaker 2: way you're Yeah, prosperity. I didn't success.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't realize he need to speak to the media.
Speaker 3: He didn't speak. He didn't speak after the game, and
Speaker 3: he didn't speak on the exit in yeah see yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, but the whole the letter thing, that's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I ain't writ no leftter. I ain't no point for
Speaker 3: all that, man, I mean, I might write that thing
Speaker 3: to my boot thing.
Speaker 1: He had a great season, Mark And yeah, Mark Anthony,
Speaker 1: he dropped full passes this season.
Speaker 3: He dropped four passes all year long. It just so happened.
Speaker 3: They came at the wrong time two of them. Yes,
Speaker 3: came at the wrong time. Yes, you know, it happens, though,
Speaker 3: O Joe.
Speaker 1: I think after that first dropped, you know, everything else
Speaker 1: was in his head after that.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Even on the first drop, they would not have got
Speaker 2: a touch down, So we can't hold that against him.
Speaker 2: They scored on that if it look it's at the
Speaker 2: end of the game. This is what everybody remembers. The fumble.
Speaker 2: Buffalo went down and got points out of that. Uh,
Speaker 2: the two point conversion. You know, they they weren't able
Speaker 2: to get the own side. Now there was a minute
Speaker 2: and thirty three seconds with two timeouts. Now you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to ask your defense. We'll never know. Maybe the
Speaker 2: defense gets a turnover and they score and they win
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: Maybe hey, they go down and and and and and and.
Speaker 2: Bottle and Buffalo kick a field goal and they win
Speaker 2: the game thirty to twenty seven.
Speaker 3: We'll never know.
Speaker 2: But you have to be able to handle You have
Speaker 2: to be able to handle adversus the same way you
Speaker 2: handle success, because it's not what happens to you that
Speaker 2: that determines what what do you do once that happens
Speaker 2: to you? And I believe Mark Andrews is made of
Speaker 2: the right stuff. You don't have the success since that
Speaker 2: he's had in this league. He's been an All Pro,
Speaker 2: he's been a Pro Bowl player, He's been Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 2: most reliable weapon since he's been in Baltimore. We can't
Speaker 2: we there's no denying that. And Jay Flowers had an
Speaker 2: unbelievable season. But since Lamar's been there and Mark Andrews
Speaker 2: has been there, Mark Andrews has been his most reliable weapon.
Speaker 3: And I can imagine. I ought to you, I've been there.
Speaker 2: I dropped the pass that would have given the Broncos
Speaker 2: home field throughout the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I just say, if I'm ever in that situation again,
Speaker 3: ain't happening? Well? Five years, six years, later. I'm in
Speaker 3: that situation thirty eight.
Speaker 2: In the situation in Baltimore thirty eighteen, Mark, I promise
Speaker 2: you you come back and make a play next year
Speaker 2: to win a game, win a playoff game. Just keep
Speaker 2: your head up, bro Strong, You're a great player. You're
Speaker 2: gonna be up there with all the other grades, with
Speaker 2: the Ray Lewis's and the Sugs and Ed Reeds, the
Speaker 2: Peter bowl Wells and the Mike mcquarie's, the Jonathan Ogdens.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be up there all right. You're gonna be
Speaker 2: up to Yep, You're gonna be okay. So pick your
Speaker 2: head up. I know it's hurting. I know it hurts, Bro,
Speaker 2: I know it hurts because of the finality of it. Man,
Speaker 2: what could have been. You're so close. But Bro, you'll
Speaker 2: be okay. I promise you're gonna be okay. And it's tough.
Speaker 2: You know, all your teammates say, oh Joe, they try
Speaker 2: to tell you the right thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You know, hey, man, it ain't your fault. We win together,
Speaker 2: we lose together, but singlely that now, Bro, No, the
Speaker 2: di was on you, that's what he but pheebe. That
Speaker 2: was different with us because I remember we we lost
Speaker 2: to the Giants.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe in ninety at ninety eight.
Speaker 2: We were thirteen, we were thirteen and three, played on
Speaker 2: a Saturday, and uh we take the lead.
Speaker 3: We weren't playing with was really sick.
Speaker 2: But TV gave us an outstanding together and I think
Speaker 2: T might have had one hundred and fifty yards. TD
Speaker 2: was sensational. Man, they go eighty seven yards and three players. Man,
Speaker 2: we get on the bus, you know, everybody head down.
Speaker 2: I walked by to dude the game that touchdown, like
Speaker 2: you coast this just underfeated Cason.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: Damn. Huh oh yeah, oh yeah, oh oh yeah. We
Speaker 2: were like that, oh Yoe, yeah for sure, ye Lee yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh Tim mackay I said, oh yeah, you like to
Speaker 2: cost us you like, hey, you like to fell out
Speaker 2: like you did in Pittsburgh. Mm hmm no, oh no,
Speaker 2: uh but we had but oh Joe, we had that
Speaker 2: type of relationship with the guys. Oh we had no problem.
Speaker 2: You drop a past or, you gave up something. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you had no Oh yeah, you gonna hear about it
Speaker 2: on yoh yeah. Oh yeah for sure for sure. But
Speaker 2: you a me and Burns. That was, Oh, we're gonna
Speaker 2: keep your hump. Oh oh especially oyo. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You gave up plays in the game, but come practice,
Speaker 3: you dim you the game. Oh you got me, you
Speaker 3: got me locked up. You up there talking, you doing
Speaker 3: this all in my face? Why did you do that
Speaker 3: on Sunday? Oh yeah? Oh yah yeah. Hey.
Speaker 2: We couldn't let we can't leat hey, we can't let
Speaker 2: you get too high. We got to keep you right here.
Speaker 2: We gotta keep you right here. Because if we keep
Speaker 2: you right here, Oh yo, we know we can have you,
Speaker 2: you start feeling good about yourself and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you start bull driving. Now we gotta keep your
Speaker 2: level and so uh yeah, I wouldn't wrote it. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have written no letter me personally. Oh yo, him,
Speaker 2: now that's how he handled it. I would have been
Speaker 2: mad enough to I'd have been mad enough to stand
Speaker 2: up there in front of the Yeah, I let my.
Speaker 3: Team down today. I did.
Speaker 2: If somebody would have told me I was gonna have
Speaker 2: an opportunity to atone for the fumble right by catching
Speaker 2: a two poor conversion and giving our team an opportunity
Speaker 2: to potentially take this thing to overtime chance.
Speaker 3: That's all I could ask for.
Speaker 2: All you want is an opportunity to put to be
Speaker 2: in that situation, because a lot of times, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you don't even get an opportunity to be in that
Speaker 2: situation right to catch a game changing plate or game
Speaker 2: winning plate.
Speaker 1: Moments like that come come around every so often. Every
Speaker 1: so often, though it don't happen all it don't happen
Speaker 1: all the time. Now, it's, yes, fortunate enough because of
Speaker 1: the team he's playing for, they're going to always be
Speaker 1: in contention and he's going to always be making players
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: Yes, so he's gonna be all right. You're gonna be
Speaker 3: all right. Victory goes to the man that's prepared. Luck.
Speaker 3: They call it
Speaker 2: The volume