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Speaker 2: There was another higher old line kid. Pete Carroll was

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Speaker 2: hired as head coach of the Raiders. Pee Carrolls and

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Speaker 2: the Raiders have reached agreement on a three year deal

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Speaker 2: with a team option for fourth. When the regular season start,

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Speaker 2: Carol will become the oldest person to ever serve as

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Speaker 2: head coaching the NFL. He turns seventy four in September.

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Speaker 2: The previous record was held by Romeo crdinal, who was

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Speaker 2: seventy three when he served the interim head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Houston, Texans.

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe, do you like this queen?

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Speaker 1: It's Pete Carroll. I like Pete Carroll peaces resume. You know,

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Speaker 1: it speaks for herself what he's done. He's a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl winning head coach. Again, when I look at what

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Speaker 1: he has to work with over in Las Vegas, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure why he would want to. Maybe he knows

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Speaker 1: something we don't know. Maybe he knows something, you know,

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Speaker 1: he has something cooking.

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Speaker 3: What about what he wants? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I know, but still, I mean, just just going to

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Speaker 1: take a job knowing that your least is gonna be short,

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Speaker 1: knowing that you don't have the most important position on

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Speaker 1: your team, on that team that matters, be able to

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Speaker 1: compete and contend, and that do you know what conference

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Speaker 1: division he's at?

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Speaker 2: Yes, AFCF West, Charger charge it. Yeah, all of them

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Speaker 2: got quarterbacks. Everybody got more.

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Speaker 3: Crazy. So I'm not sure that he got to be

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Speaker 3: thinking about something eating mustar, cooking up something with Mark Davis.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and Chad, y'all can help me.

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Speaker 2: You understand, you're seventy years old. This thirty two year

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Speaker 2: old thing, she nice got long hair, she got ooh

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Speaker 2: skin built stacked like dirty laundry and the dawn night

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Speaker 2: hair donald back. And when she stepped, she was stepper,

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Speaker 2: y'all do what I'm talking about, Hills, stepper y'all will

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Speaker 2: see it.

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Speaker 3: She's gonna have on wire seal, she'll have on four,

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Speaker 3: she'll have on them blood boums.

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Speaker 2: Everything is, everything is a maculate and she's interested in you.

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Speaker 3: You taking that?

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll said about to be seventy four. How many

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Speaker 2: jobs you think he gonna get in the NFL at

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Speaker 2: the age of seventy?

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Speaker 3: Who you going with it?

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Speaker 1: I like it to listen when you put it like that,

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Speaker 1: and when you give me that kind of analogy, I like him.

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Speaker 3: You going with it?

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Speaker 1: But everything you just said, you know you said about

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Speaker 1: tom Ford, you know, yeah, you know the nice shoes

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Speaker 1: and she's a step up. Well everything you just describing

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Speaker 1: that woman ain't the goddamn Las Vegas Raiders. It don't

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Speaker 1: forget you know now the lost the Las Vegas Raiders

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Speaker 1: is the one where your homeboys say, hey boy, I shop,

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Speaker 1: I need to want to take them for the team tonight.

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Speaker 1: Now all of them the one I got.

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Speaker 3: You know, she's a team.

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Speaker 1: Now her friend she says she had to bring her

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Speaker 1: But you take on the last Vegas traders. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: it's like like getting getting ready to be the head

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Speaker 3: But you have to understand the old Joe. She's shown interest.

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Speaker 3: Now she ain't got to have on nothing.

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Speaker 2: She might come out the house with crops, she might

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Speaker 2: come out the house with that bonnet on.

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Speaker 3: But she's thirty two. Who her Let me, let me

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Speaker 3: get let me give her visuals together. Now, how tall

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Speaker 2: She somewhere between She somewhere between five seven and five nine.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. I'm gonna do you one better.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do you one better because we both we

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Speaker 1: both talked, let's just make it. Just just make a

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Speaker 1: five five five nine five ten. So when she put

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Speaker 1: some when she put some heels on, we call the amazon.

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Speaker 2: Thirty two got a nice job. She makes six figures,

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Speaker 2: little six figures. When you see how she ain't got

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Speaker 2: nothing on. She carried, she carried Louis all the time.

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Speaker 2: She got her own, got her own crib, got her

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Speaker 2: own car.

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Speaker 1: And you gotta be careful now because because everything you

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Speaker 1: described right now as a woman.

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Speaker 3: She talked back, that's okay. I listened, she talked.

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Speaker 2: I listened all though if you talk about no joke, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I about to be fit yourself. Man, I have fitted

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Speaker 2: you all that. I'll past that stage, Joe, Joe, what

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Speaker 2: I got to where the pass? And I just gotta

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Speaker 2: be by way? Oh no, She talked back, like.

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Speaker 3: Yo, yeah, you know what.

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Speaker 2: You're right. I didn't want to go over there. Why

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Speaker 2: didn't you tell me this yesterday?

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Speaker 3: I like it? I like this is I understanding you

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Speaker 3: at This is a different phase he in life, and

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Speaker 3: you under you have to understand. You don't have to.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 2: See yeah, Tom Brady wanted Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, I

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Speaker 2: ain't got no quarterback. Yeah, ideally, would I like to

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Speaker 2: be in the same division. No, But I got a

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Speaker 2: quarterback over here. I got skilllesses over here. I got

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Speaker 2: a lot of cap space and I can build. Guess what.

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Speaker 2: I got a quarterback on a rookie contract, so I

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Speaker 2: can put some pieces around it.

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Speaker 3: But you got a little time, got about two more years.

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Speaker 3: Got two more years.

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Speaker 2: So withould that being said on Joe, But Pete being

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Speaker 2: seventy about to be seventy four.

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Speaker 3: Think about it.

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Speaker 2: In the history of the game third only one other coach,

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Speaker 2: Romeo was seventy three, and he was introl. Wasn't had

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Speaker 2: he wasn't you know that wasn't Somebody hired him and

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Speaker 2: gave him the job. He just took over. So for me,

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Speaker 2: it was for Pete, it's a no brainer. Now Pete

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Speaker 2: can't build a team. We saw what he did with Seattle.

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Speaker 2: But Russ came to him in the third round. I

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Speaker 2: think Russe was a third round draft pick, and we

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Speaker 2: saw what happened. They had a great defense. They built

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Speaker 2: that thing. They had be Wagged, they had Sharp, they

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Speaker 2: had Chancellor, they had Earl, they had Malcolm Smith, they

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Speaker 2: had Bennett, they had Cliff April, they had Red, they

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Speaker 2: had a squad.

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Speaker 3: Russ come in.

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Speaker 2: Remember now that they assigned Matt Flinn in free agency

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Speaker 3: He was expected. They gave him ten million dollars guaranteed,

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Speaker 3: had a thirty million dollar contract, ten million dollars signing bonus,

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Speaker 3: and he never touched the feel of Russ beading Mountain Camp.

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Speaker 3: Crazy how that worked.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and maybe they can maybe they can maybe he

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Speaker 2: can strike light. He under sees the thing is on Joe.

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Speaker 2: He understands. He's been a head coach a lot of

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Speaker 2: differ stops. He's head coach at the Jets, he's head

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Speaker 2: coaching the Patriots, head coach in Seattle, head coach here,

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Speaker 2: head coach at USC. And you look at what he did.

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Speaker 2: USC was. USC was not winning before Pete got there.

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Speaker 2: He put USC back on the bath. Now you not

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Speaker 2: old enough to remember when USC had that juggernaut late

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Speaker 3: They were in.

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Speaker 2: Hell they were loaded there. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I

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Speaker 2: mean you got to think about it. They had Charles

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Speaker 2: White and Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Joey Browner Ross, all.

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Speaker 3: The all those guys.

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Speaker 2: So they were they were really Lynn Kane, all those

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Speaker 3: They were, they were, they were loaded. But Pete knows

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, you look at

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Speaker 2: the teams when he's had his best most always it

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Speaker 2: matters and without him, So Russell Russ, Pete reunite in open.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Emmy Russ Russell Wilson. That's a good one.

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Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good one. I like, I like,

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Speaker 2: I like what you're thinking. That's the possibility. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: I am not sure. Damn.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one. A quarterback that you're familiar with,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback that you want a super Bowl with, you know.

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Speaker 1: But there were some there were some issues internally.

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Speaker 2: You want to go back, like, nah bro, I see

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Speaker 2: the pete was like I see diminishing spirs. Nah bro I,

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Speaker 2: I really try to give you two hundred Russell bro

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Speaker 2: I A and you know, hey, spend the bar. Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 2: you know, some type of thing be so bad on you.

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Speaker 3: You've got a choice. But I don't.

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Speaker 2: That ain't what that ain't what I said out, but

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Speaker 2: something sometimes you have to do. You know that half

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Speaker 2: your age plus ever minus three. So that's where I

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Speaker 2: come forward. That's that's you know, that's why I stay

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Speaker 2: right here on Joe. I ain't going outside of it,

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Speaker 2: you know, side to side, side to side, right here,

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Speaker 2: but I ain't going outside the box.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe hey, you know, put it on who it is.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know what I'm talking about. You know what

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Speaker 3: you dog talking about?

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Speaker 2: O Joe, you do say the aid some you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: uh like I say, boy, ain't twenty seven the thirty

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Speaker 3: It's different. Listen. You know it's good.

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Speaker 1: You know it's good about us is really understanding and

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Speaker 1: realizing we're not.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we're not the same as we were as we go.

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Speaker 1: No, we understand what we're capable of doing at our age.

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Speaker 1: Now we did it out in our teams in twenties

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Speaker 3: Man, we ain't pulling that. We're not pulling that shit

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Speaker 3: off at this.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, why I ain't even look, I ain't

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Speaker 2: Oh Yoe, I'm when I tell you, not when I

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Speaker 3: There's a different between it two. You know what, you

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Speaker 1: Awareness is so important, but it's lasing Sony, so many

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Speaker 3: You can keep up and do some of the things

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm hey, I'm who I am about to

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Speaker 2: But hey, at the end of the day, they hit

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Speaker 3: Fifty fifty seven, yeah, h fifty salvemn.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, old Joe, you know sometimes you have to, Hey,

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm that, I'm lead Listen, I'm leading up.

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Speaker 3: What you're gonna do now? On a corner to a

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh Joe, she looks as desperate as I am.

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Speaker 2: You desperate, I'm desperate. Hell, let's make this lamper, oh Joe.

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Speaker 2: In a crazy turn of events, the Jacksonville Jaguars are

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Speaker 3: Well, I like it. I liked it. And the fact

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Speaker 1: He chose to leave even though the Bucks were gonna

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Speaker 3: You know they gonna make it by d he gonna

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Speaker 1: But if they if they, if they're telling him to

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Speaker 2: No, they're gonna ask him to know, the Jags asked

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Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers was only gonna give him three

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And and look and you're over everything. You're

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Speaker 2: What time are we gonna leave Ohoe for road trips?

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Speaker 3: Yep, he was Baker. Baker had.

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Speaker 2: Baker had looked like the Baker that they took. That

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Speaker 2: Not to say Baker doesn't have talent, because obviously you

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's dope. So what do you think, O Joe?

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Speaker 3: You liked him? Absolutely? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Listen if he can do, if he can do, if

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure he.

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Speaker 3: Shure that up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that means Chad Door, the shut Door is going first.

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Speaker 2: we don't believe he'll be He'll be available if we

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Speaker 3: Or do you de most? Okay?

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Speaker 2: If I can slide down and get next year's first

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Speaker 3: Now. Obviously everybody's not going.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't.

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Speaker 2: All right, should uh Mark draft O Joe? Should door

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Speaker 3: Kind of informed it that this is gonna be competition.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot, that's a lot of that's a lot

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Speaker 2: Ap did a disservice to the Raiders by winning that

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Speaker 2: So there's a possibility that you could, look, you can

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen on in the war room, you never know

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Speaker 3: You never know what goes on.

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Speaker 2: Well, they really don't have a whole lot of tradable pieces.

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Speaker 3: The one piece they got the.

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Speaker 2: Crosby mat Max Cosby Crosby, that's that's the one piece

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Speaker 3: Four.

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Speaker 2: I don't see anybody else on that roster that they

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Speaker 3: Brock Bowers. But they're not trading brock Bios hell no.

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Speaker 2: But Max Crosby is the only one that I see

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Speaker 3: But they need damn quarterback. That's what they need. They

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00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 3: absolutely need a cord that situation, and then you build

440
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: around Oh Joe.

441
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: After taking several days, Mark Andrews publicly apologized for dropping

442
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: the ball on what would have been a game time

443
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: two point conversion. It is impossible to adequately express how

444
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: I feel. I'm absolutely gutted by what happened on Sunday.

445
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 2: I'm devastating for my teammates, my coaches, and Ravens fans.

446
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: I pour every ounce of my being into playing at

447
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: the highest level possible because I love my team and

448
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: I love the game of football like nothing else. That

449
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: is why it's taken me until now to collect my

450
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 2: thoughts and address this publicly. Even though the shocking disappointment

451
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: are unlike anything I've felt before, I refuse to let

452
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: this situation define me. I promise that this adverse adversity

453
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: will only make me stronger and fuel us as we

454
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: move forward. I think everyone that has shown me and

455
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: our team genuine support these past several days. Despite the

456
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: name activity, I've seen heartfelt love and encouragement, including from

457
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: those who have generously donated to the Breakthrough T one

458
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: D organization. Even when the moment seemed darkest perspective can

459
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: reveal that there is still a lot of light in

460
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: this world. I'm not going to do my part to

461
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: bounce back and contribute to it. Hashtag God bless oh Joe.

462
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: Was this necessary?

463
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 5: No? No, not at all, Not at all. There's nothing

464
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 5: you can do. There's no point of you know, writing

465
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 5: writing an apology. They're ups and downs, their obstacles, their

466
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 5: hurdles in the game. You know, anybody on the outside

467
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 5: of that locker room and apology. You talk to your players,

468
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 5: you talk to your teammates, you talk to your coaches.

469
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 3: You know, and you let them know how you feel.

470
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: There's no need you apologizing publicly to everyone that hasn't

471
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: put it the work you've done. They're not there in

472
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: training camp with you. They're not their meetings with you. No,

473
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: they're not bleeding with you. They're not going to war

474
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: out there with you now, they do support you because

475
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: they are fans of the team. Any apologies should be

476
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: had should be had within that team to individual players

477
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: and nobody else, if that's what you see fit in doing.

478
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: But that's the birth of brotherhood.

479
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: Yes, you know they're not gonna be talking trash about you,

480
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: and oh maybe you just know it happens.

481
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Speaker 3: Oh yo, I mean I remember Ernest Byner and I

482
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Speaker 3: e B. I know e B. I mean knew EB

483
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Speaker 3: a long time.

484
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 2: He was in Baltimore when I was there, it stayed

485
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: in contact with him. He formed the ball, he's running

486
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: into the m zon o yother he had a touchdown.

487
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: They would have put the bull to put the Browns

488
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: in front of the Broncos and got pulled it out.

489
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: It happens, It happens. Look at Billy Buckler. The ball

490
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: went right through his legs. M Johnson had a situation.

491
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: They used to call it. They called him tragic. He

492
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 2: had a chance to win the game. He drove the

493
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: time out. They lost it over time. He was a

494
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: two time finals MVP. So Frians are gonna turn Look,

495
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: I don't care what you've done.

496
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 3: Or they'll turn on your quick man. They're turning you quick.

497
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: Their lawyercy is not with you.

498
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: The lawyercy is there with you simply because you're a

499
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: part of the roof. For Yeah, that's it and that

500
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: that is it.

501
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: And I just say the thing is, he came out,

502
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: he had come out much better. Just ad I'm devastating, guys.

503
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: We had an opportunity to tie this game up, like

504
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: our chances from that point on and just lifting it.

505
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: But Ojo, you can't run. You can't run. You don't

506
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: have to say anything. It ain't about running.

507
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: No, o Joe, You've got to speak after the media

508
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: le mess your question. Had he called had he called

509
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 2: it and they won, do you think Mark Andrews would

510
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: have spoils yea, yeah, yeah, Oh he didn't he Why

511
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: you said he don't have to speak?

512
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean you know what I'm saying. Write that

513
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: that written letter that like that, like that we've got.

514
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: That's nothing necessary.

515
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: You've got, Joe, this is who I'm a firm believer.

516
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: You have to be able to handle adversity the same

517
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: way you're Yeah, prosperity. I didn't success.

518
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't realize he need to speak to the media.

519
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: He didn't speak. He didn't speak after the game, and

520
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: he didn't speak on the exit in yeah see yeah,

521
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: I mean, but the whole the letter thing, that's like, yeah,

522
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: I ain't writ no leftter. I ain't no point for

523
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: all that, man, I mean, I might write that thing

524
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: to my boot thing.

525
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: He had a great season, Mark And yeah, Mark Anthony,

526
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: he dropped full passes this season.

527
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: He dropped four passes all year long. It just so happened.

528
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: They came at the wrong time two of them. Yes,

529
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: came at the wrong time. Yes, you know, it happens, though,

530
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: O Joe.

531
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: I think after that first dropped, you know, everything else

532
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: was in his head after that.

533
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.

534
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: Even on the first drop, they would not have got

535
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: a touch down, So we can't hold that against him.

536
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 2: They scored on that if it look it's at the

537
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: end of the game. This is what everybody remembers. The fumble.

538
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo went down and got points out of that. Uh,

539
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: the two point conversion. You know, they they weren't able

540
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: to get the own side. Now there was a minute

541
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: and thirty three seconds with two timeouts. Now you're gonna

542
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: have to ask your defense. We'll never know. Maybe the

543
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: defense gets a turnover and they score and they win

544
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: the game.

545
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: Maybe hey, they go down and and and and and and.

546
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Bottle and Buffalo kick a field goal and they win

547
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: the game thirty to twenty seven.

548
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: We'll never know.

549
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: But you have to be able to handle You have

550
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: to be able to handle adversus the same way you

551
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: handle success, because it's not what happens to you that

552
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: that determines what what do you do once that happens

553
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: to you? And I believe Mark Andrews is made of

554
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: the right stuff. You don't have the success since that

555
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: he's had in this league. He's been an All Pro,

556
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: he's been a Pro Bowl player, He's been Lamar Jackson's

557
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: most reliable weapon since he's been in Baltimore. We can't

558
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: we there's no denying that. And Jay Flowers had an

559
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: unbelievable season. But since Lamar's been there and Mark Andrews

560
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: has been there, Mark Andrews has been his most reliable weapon.

561
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: And I can imagine. I ought to you, I've been there.

562
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: I dropped the pass that would have given the Broncos

563
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: home field throughout the playoffs.

564
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: I just say, if I'm ever in that situation again,

565
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 3: ain't happening? Well? Five years, six years, later. I'm in

566
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: that situation thirty eight.

567
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: In the situation in Baltimore thirty eighteen, Mark, I promise

568
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: you you come back and make a play next year

569
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: to win a game, win a playoff game. Just keep

570
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: your head up, bro Strong, You're a great player. You're

571
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: gonna be up there with all the other grades, with

572
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: the Ray Lewis's and the Sugs and Ed Reeds, the

573
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Peter bowl Wells and the Mike mcquarie's, the Jonathan Ogdens.

574
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: You're gonna be up there all right. You're gonna be

575
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: up to Yep, You're gonna be okay. So pick your

576
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: head up. I know it's hurting. I know it hurts, Bro,

577
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: I know it hurts because of the finality of it. Man,

578
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: what could have been. You're so close. But Bro, you'll

579
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: be okay. I promise you're gonna be okay. And it's tough.

580
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: You know, all your teammates say, oh Joe, they try

581
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: to tell you the right thing.

582
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: Man.

583
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: You know, hey, man, it ain't your fault. We win together,

584
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: we lose together, but singlely that now, Bro, No, the

585
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: di was on you, that's what he but pheebe. That

586
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: was different with us because I remember we we lost

587
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: to the Giants.

588
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: Oh Joe in ninety at ninety eight.

589
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: We were thirteen, we were thirteen and three, played on

590
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: a Saturday, and uh we take the lead.

591
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: We weren't playing with was really sick.

592
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: But TV gave us an outstanding together and I think

593
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: T might have had one hundred and fifty yards. TD

594
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: was sensational. Man, they go eighty seven yards and three players. Man,

595
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: we get on the bus, you know, everybody head down.

596
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: I walked by to dude the game that touchdown, like

597
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: you coast this just underfeated Cason.

598
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: Damn.

599
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: Damn. Huh oh yeah, oh yeah, oh oh yeah. We

600
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: were like that, oh Yoe, yeah for sure, ye Lee yeah.

601
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Oh Tim mackay I said, oh yeah, you like to

602
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: cost us you like, hey, you like to fell out

603
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: like you did in Pittsburgh. Mm hmm no, oh no,

604
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: uh but we had but oh Joe, we had that

605
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: type of relationship with the guys. Oh we had no problem.

606
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: You drop a past or, you gave up something. Oh yeah,

607
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: you had no Oh yeah, you gonna hear about it

608
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: on yoh yeah. Oh yeah for sure for sure. But

609
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: you a me and Burns. That was, Oh, we're gonna

610
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: keep your hump. Oh oh especially oyo. You know what

611
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

612
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: You gave up plays in the game, but come practice,

613
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: you dim you the game. Oh you got me, you

614
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: got me locked up. You up there talking, you doing

615
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: this all in my face? Why did you do that

616
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: on Sunday? Oh yeah? Oh yah yeah. Hey.

617
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: We couldn't let we can't leat hey, we can't let

618
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: you get too high. We got to keep you right here.

619
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: We gotta keep you right here. Because if we keep

620
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: you right here, Oh yo, we know we can have you,

621
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: you start feeling good about yourself and all of a

622
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: sudden you start bull driving. Now we gotta keep your

623
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: level and so uh yeah, I wouldn't wrote it. I

624
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't have written no letter me personally. Oh yo, him,

625
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: now that's how he handled it. I would have been

626
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: mad enough to I'd have been mad enough to stand

627
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: up there in front of the Yeah, I let my.

628
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: Team down today. I did.

629
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: If somebody would have told me I was gonna have

630
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: an opportunity to atone for the fumble right by catching

631
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 2: a two poor conversion and giving our team an opportunity

632
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: to potentially take this thing to overtime chance.

633
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: That's all I could ask for.

634
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: All you want is an opportunity to put to be

635
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: in that situation, because a lot of times, oh Joe,

636
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: you don't even get an opportunity to be in that

637
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: situation right to catch a game changing plate or game

638
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: winning plate.

639
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: Moments like that come come around every so often. Every

640
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: so often, though it don't happen all it don't happen

641
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: all the time. Now, it's, yes, fortunate enough because of

642
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the team he's playing for, they're going to always be

643
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: in contention and he's going to always be making players

644
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson.

645
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: Yes, so he's gonna be all right. You're gonna be

646
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: all right. Victory goes to the man that's prepared. Luck.

647
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: They call it

648
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: The volume