1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Boy, we had a big divisional matchup this weekend in Foxborough, 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: and so we decided to come in the nuthouse and 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: hop on and bring you guys another recap. Let's get 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: into it. We have to start off, do we have to? 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: We have to the Bills versus the Pats rematch Dan 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: the series in Foxborough between. 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: No, we're not that far. Okay, we're not that far. 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo beats New York. Buffalo beats New England in week 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: five rematch after starting twenty oh twenty one. Skunk. We 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: had a skunk. If this was a Madden game, we 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: would have turned it off. We would have turned it off. 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: It would have been the next player on. 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your big takeaway from this game? 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Big takeaways? Josh Allen's MVP. Oh, I know we're gonna 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: jump into it later in the show, but you know, 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: you first half looked good. Drake did it with his legs, 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: had a couple good throws. Everything was going all right. 18 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: But you gotta you make your name in that second 19 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: half of these kind of games. And Josh Allen in 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: the second half five straight touchdowns, Yeah, five straight touchdowns. 21 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: They got the running game going. Now you you definitely 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: saw how deficient the defense for the Patriots was without 23 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: Mount Williams in a gotta have it type game. You 24 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: they're they were undermanned, But so is the Buffalo Bill, 25 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: so is everyone else. I think my ultimate reaction action 26 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: was Josh Allen's MVP two. Patriots may have needed to 27 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: have this loss going into this back end of the 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: It's not unrealistic this season, It's not three. The game 29 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: seemed a little seemed a little too bright for the 30 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: Patriots at the end when it was nut cutting time. 31 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: It was nut cutting time. I mean two, three and 32 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: ounce in the second half, you know, turnover on downs 33 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: when you needed it, needed something. This could have been 34 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: the moment where Drake could have been Like if Drake 35 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: would have had a moment in the second half where 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: they go out and he would have been an MVP talks. 37 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: Still, Yeah, couldn't get a stop on defense. 38 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: Couldn't get a stop on defense. 39 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: A lot of I mean we didn't even talk about penalties, 40 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: a lot of ticket taken penalties, but just couldn't get 41 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: off the field. 42 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to like that's why we were sitting here 43 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: talking about this game with all my Boston you know, 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: my my group of people that we go over and 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: recap all the games, and everyone's like, oh, the penalty, 46 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: no eure rope twenty seven to seven or twenty twenty 47 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: four to seven a half time. Okay, there's gonna be penalties, 48 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, and that's not gonna make or break the game. 49 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: The going three and out, we'll make or break a game. 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: The kickoff out of halftime for fifty eight yards or 51 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: whatever it was, we'll break the game. You know. I 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: took a thirty five minute nap. I went to bed 53 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: because I get up on Sundays. I get up at 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: four am to go do Fox kickoff, and then I 55 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: come back, I'll watch, I'll start to watch the beginning 56 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: slate and then I usually i'll nap for that second quarter. Yeah, 57 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: and I go to sleep. It's twenty four to seven. 58 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: I wake up. The Patriots are losing like that. That 59 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. You know, the defense needed to 60 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: find something in the second half. No adjustments. Clearly the 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills made adjustments at half. 62 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 63 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: I also thinks as cool as that second Henderson and 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: touchdown was like they had no run game and you 65 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: let the defense on the field so long in the 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: second half. You know, quick stretch. Now you score, you 67 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: score a touchdown, great, it's awesome. But like defense, gotta bree. 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: Pass rush wasn't there? There was no pass rush in 69 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: the second half. There's the game the touchdown where Josh 70 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: Allen had in the red area there he could have 71 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: ran that in. Yeah, you know there was Where was 72 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: our rush lane integrity? But look, that's why that's why 73 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: they're the defending a FC East champions. You know, it's 74 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: it's that was the Josh Allen game. What are some 75 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: and cooks. 76 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Cooks ball to what are some what are some positives here? 77 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: We're no secret or mostly a Patriots fan base show 78 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 3: what are some positives here from the Patriots? 79 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: What can they take away from this game? 80 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: Positives? Trevion Henderson, that's a positive going in to the 81 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: playoff time. Uh, you know, they really didn't rush the 82 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: ball that much because they were held off the field 83 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: all second half. They had they had twenty rushes and 84 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, look, Rimandre had one hundred and forty eight 85 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: on fourteen, Stevenson had six on fifty. They had good 86 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: run games going. It's just you gotta be able to 87 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: convert on third down. Red Area foes. There were two 88 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: for three. 89 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: But activated Drake May a little bit more and. 90 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: You got to run earlier. That was early though, Yeah, 91 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: that was early. 92 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the topic of conversation has 93 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: been Patriots kind of bad and Red Area and the 94 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: start of this game successful. 95 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: There a lot of penalties offside it too, just. 96 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, also, like we said earlier, this 97 00:05:54,200 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: could help them, you know, to show that no, ten 98 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: game winning streaks aren't like just real. It's after you 99 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: start winning like that, you know, you gotta be able 100 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: to play. You gotta continue to play good football. You're 101 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: not gonna slap it out there in the second half 102 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: against defending AFC's champions and think that they're not gonna 103 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: come back. 104 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: It's a good lesson to learn it for a young team, 105 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: this point. 106 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: A great lesson to learn. But they got to pick 107 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: it up because they got they gotta go out and 108 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: beat Baltimore. 109 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: Now that's not a Sunday night game. 110 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, Baltimore Baltimore. I mean, I don't know 111 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: if we're going over that game, but Bengals basically just quit. 112 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: They quit on the season. I touched down the Kyle 113 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: van noy to. How about vanoy he's a smart player. Yeah, yeah, 114 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: I he was probably thinking, I gotta go to If 115 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I run this thing back and we score real quick, 116 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the field quicker. I need to 117 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: get my my rest to recovery. Give it to young guy, 118 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: go score. 119 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also Travis Scott, what was a turnover interception? 120 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: The punt? 121 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the arm punt, that was it. 122 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just that's some controversy about another one. 123 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: But oh the Marcus Jones. 124 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: Ty goes to the runner. 125 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that twice now this year about the 126 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: tie goes to the offense on a catch. I've never 127 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: heard that in my life. 128 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: It's true, you guys got all the breaks on offense. 129 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: But I've never heard the tie goes to There's never 130 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: been I've never heard that rule. Yeah, it's the first 131 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: time i've heard. I've heard it twice. Now, tie goes 132 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: to the receiver if it's. 133 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: If it's a shared possession of and it's a catch, 134 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: it's a shared possession, it goes to the offensive player. 135 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: It's happened a few. 136 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Times, I know, but I've specifically heard it this year. 137 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: What else about this? 138 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: Now? You now put yourself in your like their shoes. Right, 139 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: you played there, you had situations like. 140 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: This is this, Uh, what are you taking away from 141 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: this game? What are you talking about today? Like, how 142 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: do you what can you do to you know, learn 143 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: or whatever from this game? 144 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: Look, boys, this is a reminder how delicate these games are. 145 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: Every play matters. That third down coming out of the half, 146 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: that third down that we came out of half after 147 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: we just let them score, may not no one remembers it, 148 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: but that third down could have been the play or 149 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: the next third down, or the next first down or 150 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: the next like, every play matters. Every play to this 151 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: point has to have that much focus and urgency, you know, 152 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: and that and that's what this can be a reminder of. Man, 153 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: they were close, that they had an opportunity to win 154 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: it right there. But look, now, is Buffalo gonna catch them? 155 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: They could. 156 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 3: Patriots do have the I think easiest final schedule at 157 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 3: anyone in the NFL. 158 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Miami's playing tough. 159 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: Miami's frisky, Baltimore's got some stuff going on. 160 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: Miami's playing tonight on a four game heater, right yeah 161 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: against Steelers. 162 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah in Steelers, Yeah, I think it might be. 163 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but all right, Buffalo Cleveland. 164 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: Is at Cleveland. Miles Garrett Is won away. 165 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Went away. 166 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna get Josh Allen give himself. 167 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: What did I say this? 168 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: This? 169 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: I blacked out on what I just said because I'm 170 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: so pissed off about that. But look, this is a 171 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: young football team. They don't have to finish games yet. 172 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: Learn a lesson, Learn a lesson. I think you're right 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: about going into the postseason. Let's say they won the 174 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: last games on on a long win streak. It's like 175 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: those like undefeated NCAA Basketball Gate College teams when they're 176 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: on the phoenix, like, oh, you just gotta lose one, 177 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: get it out of the way. 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Oh for one on fourth, five for ten on third. 179 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: Too many penalties, I mean they they just things were 180 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: clicking in that first half. Gotta be able to adjust. 181 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Ye, bounce back next week. 182 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: Bounce back next week. Let's take a look at some 183 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: of the storylines from the rest of Week fifteen. 184 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers finished the game. 185 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: That's a plus almost one. They got close that's another plus. 186 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: One hundred twenty yards one touchdown, good eighteen for twenty seven, 187 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: one pick, they're. 188 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: Gonna make this a Disney movie. 189 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: What would you call it? The old Gray mayor what 190 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: do you to? I don't know, I got nothing. 191 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what I want last year, but they 192 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to win. Yeah, and it went as 193 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: best as it could have possibly went for that situation. 194 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: Also, like old or whatever, he was off the street 195 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: a week ago. 196 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: No, this is impressive as hell. This is this is 197 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: gonna raise the Achilles tear rate for all thirty eight 198 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: to fifty people because of him coming out off the street. No, 199 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: people are going to tear their achilles left and right 200 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: because Philip Rivers came in with a beer belly and 201 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: competed against NFL athletes and made it through a game. 202 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: Because now every joker thinks that they could just come 203 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: off the street and go play in their local basketball 204 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: game or their flag football game. 205 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: You were with Tom in the studio yesterday at Fox, right, Yeah? 206 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Did he was he getting a little you know? Was 207 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: he looking at this with a little steely eye. 208 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: That just confirmed to me that if Tom could still 209 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl for the Raiders. No, not for 210 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders, not with that offensive line. If you protect Tom. 211 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: On the Colts. 212 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Nah, I don't know about the Colts either. He'd have 213 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: to go to like the Chiefs. No, not the Chiefs. 214 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: The line he'd have to go to like Philadelphia, but 215 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: they don't have no line neither. He'd have to go 216 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: to solid out a line. Look, this was awesome to see. 217 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't throw a ball over fifteen eighteen yards. Yeah, 218 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: but he got them in the right place. He executed 219 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: the screen game very well. I mean, this was it 220 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: was fun to watch. It was much must watch TV. 221 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: I was watching. I was glued to it. I was like, 222 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: what's he gonna do? He was like farting that thing 223 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: out there. He'd shoot that day. Guys would he would 224 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: throw the out route you see that one, and a 225 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: guy would try to break it up and he was 226 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: too early, and then the ball would come. 227 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: It's like a change up. 228 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: It was a full change up. It was it was. 229 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: It was fucking awesome to see that. But I do 230 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: want to see the Achilles rate for men thirty eight 231 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: to fifty after this, Hey. 232 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 3: Peyton Manny want to suit both in can be done? 233 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: Mahomes Chief Chiefs. 234 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: It's got to be said. The Chiefs were out of 235 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: the playoffs before Mahomes towards. 236 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: Aco regardless, That's just that was terrible. Yeah, but you know, 237 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, all good things come to an end. 238 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, hell me back will they in some capacity? 239 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, They're gonna be back, like in a couple of years. Yeah, 240 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: but they got they got a lot of holes. Yeah, 241 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: they gotta they. 242 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: Gotta make some roster moves, some hard roster moves. They 243 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: got hit on the draft. 244 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Gotta hit on the draft. They gotta find some gems, 245 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: which you know. 246 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Michaeh Parsons also. 247 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Is it confirmed that changed the dynamic of that whole 248 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: that whole conference. They know, that makes me more scared 249 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: of the Niners. Okay, you know because once once they 250 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: get in Shanahan, all the experience they have in the playoffs, 251 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: Shan's had a beat up defense the whole year, and 252 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: that like, these beat up defensive guys are starting to 253 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: come together. They're starting to become I mean, they gave 254 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: up a boatload of yards in the rush game to Titans, 255 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: but they play complimentary football. They they become more scary 256 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: because Michael Parsons towards a cl and Watson's out, I 257 00:14:55,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: think I feel DeVante Adams in the hamstring. That could 258 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: be huge for this week's Thursday night matchup against the 259 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. That that's a huge game. Who had like 260 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: two hundred yards one hundred and eighty seven. 261 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, hookah, he's he's just. 262 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: He's just brute, brute strong, and he's got a little 263 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: basketball to him. He can go up and get balls. 264 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: He does a lot of dirty work, a lot of 265 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,479 Speaker 1: run after catch, run through contact. 266 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: Is he the best receiver in the NFL right now? 267 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: Nah? No, I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go 268 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: that far. He's damn good yea, because because of the 269 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: play caller in the quarterback he has, he's a great 270 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: fit for that offense. But when it comes to sheer, like, 271 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's he's balling. Yeah, he's in the conversation. 272 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: But I mean JSN is pretty elite at his route running. 273 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: If you put Jefferson on Jamar Chase situation, like I 274 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: think Jamar Chase can do everything, Like he could do everything, 275 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: but I mean as far as like route running, yards 276 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: after catch, fifty to fifty balls. The one thing that 277 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: puka his route running versus man coverage. He gets open 278 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: because he's just so damn big and physical with guys. Yeah, 279 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: he's you know what I mean, that was scary when 280 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: he went down too with the foot for a second, 281 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: that was that would have been real bad. But look 282 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: those Lions, they've they've developed this thirteen package that everyone's 283 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: been talking about on every fucking broadcast, which is one 284 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: running back, three tight ends, and you know, that whole 285 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: thing that can help them going from here on out 286 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: because they're not so reliant on the receivers when they 287 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: can play matchup game and when you're in those types 288 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: of personnel groups, you get very vanilla cover bridge and 289 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: so that's why you see those a lot. So then 290 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: if you have guys that are smart enough, you could 291 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: spread them out. You can manipulate coverage with those packages. 292 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: So there's still this This week is gonna be a 293 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: huge game because Sam Darnold, he hadn't been playing his 294 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: best in these last few weeks. We're starting to get 295 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: I see ghost Sammy, which happened this time last year 296 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: with Minnesota. But that defense, that defense is really good. 297 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: How about these Jacksonville Jaguars, No one wants to talk 298 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: about them. Trevor Lawrence going out throwing five touchdowns, rushing 299 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: for one, rushing for fifty yards, and their defense is good. 300 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: What's their remainers? I mean, they are these these dudes. 301 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: They've got at Broncos, tough game, tough game. 302 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: Then they got at Colts, Colts, and then they got 303 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: Titans at home. 304 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: That's tough Titans. I mean, they just gotta beat the no. 305 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean really it's the Broncos. Okay, let's wait, wait, wait, Broncos. 306 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: You gotta give we gotta give a little flower to 307 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: bo Nicks. That was a big game for bow Knicks 308 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: and they needed that offensive performance against a good football team. 309 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: Bo Nix throws for four touchdowns, threadn needle not just 310 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: catching runs, hitting steam routes, hitting deep backside corner all all. 311 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: You like that. He had some seeds. He gets so 312 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: happy in that pocket with his feet. But you know, 313 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: you you watch him sometimes, I guess that's the way 314 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: he plays because he seems like he's in control, but 315 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: is he in control? But is he out of control? 316 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: But he doesn't turn the ball over. I like him 317 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton, that's what you like. And defense, the 318 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: defense is really good too, I mean Nick, but it 319 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: was really impressive. Like the Packers played him tough that 320 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: first half, didn't have a sack. Broncos didn't have a 321 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: sack for the first half, which I think was like 322 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: the first time in like a million years that they 323 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: haven't done that. And but that that that that Broncos 324 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: pass rush is like water. There's a crack in there. 325 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna find its way through. And that's what happened 326 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: at the end of that thing. You see Benito and Cooper, 327 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: they when they get tucked up and like in their 328 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: little jet four point stance, and then they fucking just 329 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: come off and they collapsed the There was one time 330 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: where they just both blew the tackles right into the 331 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: lap of Jordan Love and like, I think the tackle 332 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: got the sack, but sack, but I think Alan scooped 333 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: off and got it because they got big interior guys. 334 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: The roach guys really good too. Is there a roach 335 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: over that team? I was watching some roach guy was 336 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: fucking balling at dtackle, like they look good. This is gonna. 337 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: Is this the year of the defense, Malcolm Roach? Is 338 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: this the year of the defense? 339 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: Could be? 340 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, who's gonna or is Matts? 341 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: Whereas every year is the year of the defense. 342 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Is it not like this because once you get in 343 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs, you have Josh Allen who doesn't have a defense, 344 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: and then there's gonna be all teams with great defenses. 345 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: And he hasn't won a championship. 346 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Shit, they might just break the laws of football. 347 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: Let's wrap this thing up real quick. We were gonna 348 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the MVP race. 349 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: It's either it's either Stafford or Allen right now, Drake 350 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: may it was great, but like, we need one more year. 351 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: We gotta get the floaties off. 352 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: Can I throw You might. 353 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: Like poop poo this, but can I throw Justin Herbert 354 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: in the mix? Just because what the Chargers are doing 355 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: and how they're doing it. They have no offensive line. 356 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: He's like willing them to win games. They're five in 357 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: the AFC West. 358 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: Look, I mean it doesn't look great. 359 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: He's not put up the stats, but they're winning games. 360 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: No it stad he is putting up. He's getting sacked 361 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: five times a game the last four weeks. Yeah, I 362 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: was so impressed when he when I saw him six 363 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: six nights out of surgery, put his hand under center 364 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: and take a snap that he. 365 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 2: Was doing stiff arm. 366 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I went on Fox Kickoff, and 367 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I always talk about how I like big men at 368 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback. I always talk about Herbert, But big men 369 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: can get hurt too. Big men can get hurt in 370 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: this league too. And I don't know what Madison Beer 371 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: is doing over there to take care of him for recovery, 372 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: but that that is impressive to go out there and 373 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: be able to play with a broken hand, stiff arm jokers, 374 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: put your hand under, take a snap on broke in 375 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: hand and somehow win NFL games because they are I 376 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a product of them winning those games. 377 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: They're playing teams that have been losing. Really the defense 378 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: mentor's got the defense going physical. 379 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, to go into Arrowhead and beat the beat the Chiefs, 380 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: and that's a gotta have. 381 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: That's the playoff game for the Chiefs. 382 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: That's a playoff game for both because look, the Chargers 383 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: need it. You look at the back end of their schedule. 384 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: They got a fucking gauntlet. Look at the Chiefs or Charger. 385 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: I talked about it on our show. They got they 386 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: got both bad the best defensive lines. You got Broncos Houston. 387 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: We got at Cowboys, they got Texans at home. And 388 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: then at Broncos. 389 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but now that that Cowboys game just got a 390 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: whole lot easier. I was really disappointed with the Cowboys 391 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: went on on a limb. You know, I've been talking 392 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: about them, and I'm like, not even a Cowboys guy. 393 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: I honestly don't like the Cowboys at all. But I've 394 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: gained a respect for Dak and this Cowboys and what 395 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: Jerry's kind of done, Like when everyone's zigg and he 396 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: zags on this thing. Now they're gonna have options next year, 397 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: and I think they can build off this. I like Brian, 398 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: I like Shoddy the head coach. He's been doing good things, 399 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: but you gotta win these games. He had two games 400 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: they got, you know, they beat Philly, Kansas City, they 401 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: get in that three game heater, then they trick it 402 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: off to the Lions, trick it off to these Minnesota Vikings. 403 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: That was come on, Cowboys, man, making me look dumb, 404 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: making me look dumb. 405 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: I think that's the perspective of most Cowboys fans too. 406 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Made me look dumb. Man. I just want Jerry. I 407 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: was on Jerry's side. All right, let's wrap this up. Well, 408 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: let's wrap it up. It's cream season. This is Cream 409 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: season right now. This is officially Cream season week sixteen, 410 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: now fifteen in the books. Hit the comments if you 411 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: want us to keep on doing these weekly recaps, send 412 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: us some comments the night before or whatever on what 413 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: we should. 414 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: Recap, or questions that we can answer. 415 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Or questions we can answer. A new Games with Names tomorrow. 416 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: We got w W E Legend Seth Rawlins. Seth knows ball. 417 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: He's been on I seen him on NFL Kickoff or 418 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: what's he been on NFL Network. He's been on there 419 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: for like two weeks and he knows ball. 420 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big ubarssan. We get into it. It's great. 421 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: He loves embarrassing Cody Roads. 422 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: It's a matchup with Cody rhod'z going. 423 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, very good ones, good episode, and then new Dudes 424 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: on Dudes dropping this Thursday, maybe Friday, maybe Friday. 425 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: Scheduling with Rob scheduling Rob. 426 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: He's been everywhere, He's been everywhere. The Grunk Bowl. 427 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: It was fun. 428 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: It was fun. 429 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got way better seats than last year, did you. Yeah. 430 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 3: We were like one box over in the end zone 431 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: and like you can't like that. See, everyone was in 432 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: the way. There was like wide open so you could 433 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: just you were on the field, you could see it 434 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: was cool. 435 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: Washington kicks the ship out of Bois date was that Jedfish. 436 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I should have I had a soccer tournament so 437 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't make it, which honestly, I probably should have 438 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: just went because our girls didn't have any effort. Got 439 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: their fucking teeth kicked in, got their teeth kicked in. 440 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: I don't know what we were doing. We were we 441 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: were out there picking daisies because we weren't playing. We 442 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: were not picking, we weren't playing soccer, and we were 443 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: on a turf field. So that's how that tells you 444 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: how the daisy pick and went all right? 445 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: Like you subscribed, Like we'll do some youth girls soccer 446 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: recap next week.