1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Everybody welcome to move the sticks DJ and Bucky together today. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Rhett is Bucky's having some issues with the power at 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: his house, So no rhet today, which is a good 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: thing because he smoked us in the rookie draft this 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: last week. 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: Oh he did. Oh that's not good. Yeah, at least 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: we don't have to hear him glow, so that's okay. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that ended up being a blessing. Hopefully 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: everything's okay at the house and we'll get to the 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a rookie draft again. He's given his 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: board to our producer Drew, so we're gonna still have 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: our rookie draft for this next week. We'll give him 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: his flowers, but we don't need to spend too much 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: time on that. In just a little bit, as we 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: get things started. Right now, Buck, it's time for the 17 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: Monday Night recap and a game that was I would say, 18 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, pretty ugly at least from the Raiders side 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: of things. But let's start positively. Let's start with the 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, coming off a tough loss against the Ravens. 21 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: They bounce back in a big way twenty six to fourteen. 22 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: As the final it looked like they kind of righted 23 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the ship in Detroit. 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, the absolutely rights of the ship. Played well on 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. Really impressed with what they 26 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: were able to do offensively. Jamier Gibb stepped up replacing 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: David Montgomery. He's beginning to kind of come into his 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: own as one of those feature playmakers on offense. 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: And then Jerry Golf and I'm on Saint Brown. 30 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: We're beginning to see that connection with Jameson Williams and 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: Sam Laporter. Offensively, Man, they have everything that you could 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: wish for as an offensive coordinated, big, physical offensive line, 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: and whenever this game got tight, they were able to 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: take it over. 35 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: The one thing to me that. 36 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: Stands out about the lines is their resilience, their toughness, 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 3: their grittiness, man, that comes through in everything that they do. 38 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: This is a really, really good team, a well constructed team. 39 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know they're physical. I mean you could see 40 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: some of the replays of just the push that their 41 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: offensive line was getting. It was pretty ridiculous. They were 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: just kind of mauling people at the point of attack 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: with their offensive line and then on the defensive front. 44 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: Now they've got they've got an underrated player there when 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you go and watch the tape and going through it 46 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: this morning, Alien McNeil had a couple of sacks in 47 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: this game. But he is excellent with his hands. He's quick. 48 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: You know, he's coming out of n C State, I 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: believe I remember correctly, it was kind of more of 50 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: a pocket push. Yeah, but now buck he's getting he's 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: getting on some of those edges inside and uh, he's 52 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's winning in one on one pass rush 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: and he's doing it with outstanding hands, which tells me 54 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, he's skilled. Number two, 55 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: he's well coached. They're a nice job of continuing to 56 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: develop him. 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: Even further on Elee McNeil, he played in my rival 58 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: high school. He played at Sandison High School. How about 59 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: I want you to imagine that big guy playing left 60 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: field on the baseball team, because that's what he did. 61 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: He played the outfield. 62 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: And so when you talk about his athleticism in his 63 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: hand usage and all that is notticica wincidence. This is 64 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: a talented player and Aiden Hudgson, Alien McNeil all their guys. 65 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: The one thing that is coming to nominated with their guys. 66 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: They have really gone all in on high motor guys. 67 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: They played hard, their physical, they run to the ball, 68 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: and Glynn has done a really good job of really 69 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: taking this defense and changing it. 70 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: They went from a. 71 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: Team that was all manned a man a year ago, 72 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: high pressure to then backing off and playing zone. Well 73 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: against the Raiders, he reintroduced some of that blitzed some 74 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 3: of that aggressiveness they came after. 75 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: They really knocked the Raiders around. 76 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, on a side note, I'm sure 77 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: you saw Dave Dorn with his comments about Steve Smith, 78 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: our buddy Steve Smith. When Steve just it was a 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: throwaway line. I thought it was pretty harmless when he 80 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: said NC State was a basketball school. That was not 81 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: well received. So I'm curious as somebody who went to Carolina, 82 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: who I'm sure your entire life have heard that Carolina 83 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: is a basketball school. As a football player at a 84 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: quote unquote basketball school, did that bother you guys at all? 85 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it can't bother you if you go to 86 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: North Carolina and the basketball team is putting up banners. 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: But it is one of those things that is annoying. 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: You always want to be viewed in the same life, 89 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: so I understand doing, but doing is always kind of 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: edged when it comes to those things. Steve Smith kind 91 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: of gave him something that he was looking for. He 92 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: gave him a little bit of more material to take 93 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: to his team and kind of energized them as they 94 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: were getting ready for Clempson last weekend. 95 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: That was pretty entertaining. All right, we've done the positives here. 96 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: The Lions again, the rookie Sam Laporta, Jamiir Gibbs doing 97 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: great on offense, the offensive line dominated, the defensive front 98 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: took over the game. So lots of good from the 99 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: Lion side of things. The Raiders not so much. And 100 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I want to start right here. Let's go. I believe 101 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: we have some sound from after the game from Davante Adams. 102 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Let's hear that and we'll react to it. 103 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't know what to say at this moment, 104 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: I truly don't. I wish I had the words, you know, 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 4: to say something that's not going to get blown up 106 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: in the media and taking out of context. 107 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna just. 108 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: What are you feeling right now? Can you elaborate on anything. 109 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: Going through your mind. 110 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: Frustration. 111 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: But that's that kind of go over with us, and 112 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: I thought it was actually a very mature and tame 113 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: response to our bridget content's questions there, Bucket. To me, 114 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: he showed restraint because anybody has a right to be frustrated. 115 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: It's this guy, especially coming off that game. He could 116 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: add like a two hundred yard receiving day just on 117 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: the two balls that were grossly missed on home run balls, 118 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: I mean huge, huge plays, and it's just it's not close. 119 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the two deep shots where he is 120 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: free and in the clear and that ball is nowhere 121 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: to be found. 122 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 123 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: No, if you're Devanta Adams, this is not what you 124 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: signed up for when you made the trade request to 125 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: come to the Raiders. You thought you would be a 126 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: featured player and some of that they would be able 127 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: to build game plans around. And for whatever reason, Josh 128 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: mcdames has not been able to get Davante Adams unlocked. 129 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: And to me, when you look at their team, it 130 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: has to be DeVante Adams and Josh Jacobs as the 131 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: focal points and I don't care whatever order, if he's 132 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: number one or Josh Jakos number one. Those guys have 133 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: to touch the ball, and for whatever reason, they're not 134 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: getting it done. Some of that maybe use the era 135 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: in terms of Jimmy Garoppolo able to push it outside. 136 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: But if I'm a guy who has been an All 137 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: Pro player, a guy who is really viewed as wide 138 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: receiver won in the National Football League, to go in 139 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: an entire half without getting the ball in those things, 140 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 3: the frustration says in and to continue to lose games 141 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: when you haven't been a big part of the offensive puzzle. Yeah, 142 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: the frustration I'm sure is kind of boiling over, and 143 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: at some point Josh McDaniels has to make a change. 144 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: They had a team meeting last week. I don't know 145 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: what's after the team meeting, because once you have the 146 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: team meeting and you air it out, there's nothing else 147 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: that can be done. This is situation critical in Las Vegas. 148 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: This is a team that is trending in the wrong direction. 149 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: One of the double moves will stutter go. That's a 150 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: sixty yard touchdown. Buck, He's ten yards in the clear. 151 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: They targeted him seven times and they tried to get him. 152 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: The football quarterback can't get it there So at what 153 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: point time do we just say this is this is 154 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: not it's not gonna work. You know, we were excited 155 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: about Jimmy Grofthlo reuniting with Josh McDaniels. He's not good 156 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: enough when the sacks taken in the completion numbers are indistinguishable. Buck, 157 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: that's a problem when you've got ten completions and you're 158 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: taking ten and six sacks and you're missing lay up 159 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: home run balls and you're throwing interceptions, turn the ball over, Like, 160 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: what are we doing. Let's let's get a chance, Let's 161 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: look at a and O'Connell, see what he can do, 162 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: and let's go forward with a young guy at least 163 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: have some hope for the future. It's it's been, uh, 164 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: it's been underneath the surface for DeVante Adams. I know 165 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: he slammed the helmet, but I thought he was reserved 166 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: in his comments after the game. I can't imagine he's 167 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna stay reserved. This is a guy who signed up 168 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: to go play with his best friend, his college buddy, 169 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, and had visions of you know, catching a 170 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: zillion balls and putting up big numbers and winning games 171 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: and why they're three and five, and they've been you know, 172 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: somewhat competitive, quarterback plays terrible. So I mean, I don't know. 173 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: To me, it feels like you've got to you've got 174 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: to go in another direction. I know you gave Jimmy 175 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: a little money, I know you committed to him, but 176 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: this is just he's not good enough. I don't know 177 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: how else to say it. 178 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: No, he hasn't been good. He hasn't been what everyone thought. 179 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: We thought he would jump in, pick up the system 180 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: and go and even though it's been a while since 181 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: he's played for Josh McDaniels in this system, we thought 182 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: that it would be a smoother transition, and it hasn't worked. 183 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: And this team, I don't want to say, I mean 184 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: they are wasting games because this team is good enough 185 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: to play much better. Their record could be and should 186 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: be flipped. They should be a five and three team, 187 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: maybe even a six and two team, but they have 188 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: not taken advantage of the opportunities that are there. And 189 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: at some point we can talk about the quarterback, but 190 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: the guys are gonna look at the head coach and 191 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: they're looking at him to solve the problems. 192 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: And if he doesn't have any answers. 193 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: Man, Mark Davis is gonna have to make a really 194 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: difficult decision whether to keep Josh McDaniels and continue to 195 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: go down this road or to maybe go somewhere else. 196 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: But I don't know the head Gruden now they had 197 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: Josh mc daniels. I don't know what this looks like, 198 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: but it doesn't look like it needs to look for 199 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: the Raiders to be a playoff contender year after year. 200 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously was kind of an ugly end there goes 201 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: without saying to the end of the Gruden era, but 202 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: that was a team that was a playoff team. Was 203 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of true ending in the right direction. They were offense, 204 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, an offense that was fun to watch and 205 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of you could envision this working for you know, 206 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: going in the future for a period of time. And 207 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: now it's like, man, this is hard to get first 208 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: downs right now for this team when you have an 209 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: offensive head coach. That's not a good look. It is 210 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of what I'm getting at there, all right. For 211 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: the first time ever, the NFL kicks off in Frankfurt, Germany, 212 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: with Sunday Morning football exclusively on NFL Network. It is 213 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: a must see AFC Showdown as the Dolphins take on 214 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Rise, Shine, and watch on Sunday, November fifth, 215 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: at nine thirty am Eastern only on NFL Network and 216 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: streaming on NFL Plus. How about that matchup That is 217 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: going to be an awesome game there from Frankfurt, Germany. 218 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: And today we're going to use a little bit of 219 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: a trade deadline theme here. Buck. We've got a couple 220 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: of trades as we're recording this that have already taken place, 221 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and let's get to those. Let's start first of all, 222 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams that came down yesterday. He has traded from 223 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: the Giants. He goes to the Seattle Seahawks. Just your 224 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: thoughts on the move for both teams and what that 225 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: means for their defense. 226 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: Well, one Pete. 227 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: Carroll looking back at his time at USC and taking 228 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 3: the USC legend and Leonard Williams, even though he didn't 229 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 3: necessarily coach him, he understands who he is and what 230 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: he was about and what he means to the university. 231 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: And so he takes a player who has had a 232 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: level of success in the National Football League, but he 233 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: needs a fresh start. 234 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: You put him in this defense. 235 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: A guy who can play inside and give you sack production, 236 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: high effort guy. He just kind of needs to be 237 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: put in the right situation where he can get home 238 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: and makes him disrupt the plays when now he's going 239 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: to have that, and so I like that. I like 240 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: what the Seattle se have done the last couple of weeks. 241 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: You talk about him bringing over Frank Clark, what they're 242 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 3: trying to do to kind of revamp this defensive front. 243 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: Pete Carroll wants to get back to playing the way 244 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: they played during the Legion of Booms Heyday. And the 245 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: only way you can do that you got to have 246 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: lots of bodies upfront, lots of bodies that can take 247 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: over the game much like they did in the early 248 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: twenty tens. 249 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, passing League, I think a lot of people. 250 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: You look at a defensive lineman transaction, you see the 251 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: compensation there with a two and a five. That's not cheap. 252 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: And Leonard Williams, to me though, it's what he's going 253 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: to be able to do to get you to those 254 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: pass rush downs. It's being stout at the point of attack. 255 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has always valued that. He's always understood, you know, 256 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: having some bigs upfront to be able to stop the 257 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: run and then be able to cut your edge loose 258 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: against the pass and play kind of that fearless role 259 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: off the ball style. So I think he fits stylistically. 260 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: This is a defensive front that lost another trojan in 261 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: Chennanuoso to injury, So you replace the trojan with the 262 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: trojan obviously different positions, but you just add him to 263 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: that defensive front. Frank Clark comes in there as well. 264 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: It also signals to me that this is a Seahawks 265 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: team that sees this division buck is one that everybody 266 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: assumed that forty nine ers would run away with. They 267 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: see this division as winnable and their positioned perfectly right now. 268 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are positioned perfectly, and this is a team 269 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: that has a lot of confidence and Pete Carroll kind 270 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: of understands what it is when it comes to this 271 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 3: rivalry that. 272 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: They have with the forty nine ers. 273 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: We talked about the arms race that is in the NFC, 274 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: and the arms race that we've talked about is the 275 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles looking out west and seeing what the Niners 276 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 3: are doing in them competing back and forth, well the 277 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest. The Seattle Seahawks are looking down at the 278 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: nine and saying, hey, don't sleep on us. We're gonna 279 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: add some some weapons to the arsenal that will give 280 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: us an opportunity to maybe quietly steal the division and 281 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 3: put us in a situation where we can go toe 282 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: to toe with the Philadelphia Eagles. I like the moves, 283 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: I like the aggress on us DJ. We've talked about it. 284 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: I think there should be more trades in the National 285 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: Football League. I love the John Snyder and company. Those 286 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: guys are willing to kind of think outside the box 287 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: and add pieces to the team building puzzle that gives 288 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: them a chance to really compete at the highest level. 289 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna put you on the spot, no warning, 290 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: and I know you love it when I do this. 291 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: If you have got to win a game tomorrow, and 292 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: you've got your choice of Geno Smith or brock Purty, 293 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: who you taking tomorrow games tomorrow? 294 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: Look, I'm still going lean towards brock Pretty because of 295 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: the supporting cast and those things. I like Gino and 296 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: those things. I'm still in that all the way off 297 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: the brock Pretty bus. But it is getting close. He's 298 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: getting tight. He's coming back to me. So I'm Brock 299 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: pretty in the nine ers. 300 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would too. I would stick with Brock Purty. 301 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: I know this is that like Recncy bias. You could say, 302 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, it looked great lately. I would still 303 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, I would still lean in that direction. I 304 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: think the forty nine ers still end up winning this division. 305 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: But man, the Seahawks are. They're right there at the top, 306 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: and they seize this opportunity to try and add to 307 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: their ball club and see if that can push them 308 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: all the way over the top. All right, another move 309 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: that just went down. Montes Sweat and talks a lot 310 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: about him being on the trade block, and he's been traded. 311 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: He's gone. He goes to Chicago Bears, a team that 312 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: I just saw Buck. I just talked about this yesterday 313 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: about how talent challenged, let's use that phrase. This Bears 314 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: team is, especially on the defensive line, they just not 315 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: There's nobody you worry about there. So the cost, though, 316 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: is what I want to get to. It is a 317 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: second round pick. Montes Sweats never had double digit sacks. 318 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: Came into the league in twenty nineteen. You know, you 319 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: look at the sack total numbers and I know there's 320 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: more to it than just sacks. But seven nine, five, eight, 321 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: six and a half eighty liked the trade for the 322 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: for the Bears and b was it too much that 323 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: they gave up? 324 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: No, it's not too much. 325 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: Because we talked about a team that doesn't have any talent. 326 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: You said, they saw it on Sunday night. They don't 327 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 3: have enough upfront to do what Matt Eberflusch wants to do, 328 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: and so to get a player. It was a first 329 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: round pick, a high motor player, a guy who by 330 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: all accounts has been really, really good in the locker room. 331 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: I slid teammate, Yeah, they need to do that. You 332 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: want to see the production. And I will say this 333 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: because we say it. With wide receivers and other things, 334 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: it's hard to project a number two to be at 335 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: number one at any position. So I would not expect 336 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: montes Witt to be the point on the sword when 337 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: it comes to their pass rush. But he gives them 338 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,239 Speaker 3: someone who can get to the quarterback where the opportunity 339 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: presents itself. Maybe he will be unleashed and maybe he'll 340 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: play in a better role. This is when Matt eberflows 341 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: needed somebody. But they're gonna need some other people along 342 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: that defensive front to eventually play the. 343 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: Style that they want to play under him. 344 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna do a little exercise with you here, 345 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: because if it ended today, the season end of today, 346 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: that pick would be the thirty fifth pick. So I 347 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: pulled up the edge rushers that were drafted over the 348 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: last few years. So I'm gonna give you guys that 349 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: were picked in that neighborhood. Okay, just to give you 350 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: a sense of who you know, maybe the opportunity you 351 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: gave up here, Here's who the guys are. Thirty first 352 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: pick this year was felix en A dk Uzama with 353 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You go to. The fortieth pick was Isaiah 354 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Foski at a Notre Dame. He goes to the Saints, 355 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: you go back the year before that. The thirtieth pick 356 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: was Carl Loftis, The forty sixth pick was Josh Pascal. 357 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one, Rousseau was the thirtieth pick. Twenty twenty 358 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: you tiar, gross Matos was the thirty eighth pick. So 359 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: you see what I'm getting. You're not seeing anybody on 360 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: that list that you're like, WHOA like that man? We 361 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: missed out on one here, some solid players in there, 362 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: But I think that when you look at what's going 363 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: to be available with that pick, I think Montes Sweater 364 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: is an established player, even though you got a PAM 365 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: going into the future here, probably tagg him if you 366 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: don't get him done, but then get a long term 367 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: deal done. I understand it. I would say I don't 368 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: love it, Buck, but I understand it. I don't think 369 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: it was a bad move. 370 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it. 371 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: And also like we haven't necessarily looked all the way 372 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: ahead to the next used draft class to kind of 373 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: be able to assess what MONTESWD looks like against some 374 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: of the top second round prospects that could be available. 375 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: But this makes a lot of sense. 376 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: When you talked about those names, DJ, all those names 377 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: that you read off, there was no one that kind 378 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: of got me going, got me excited, like, yeah, let's 379 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 3: go see this guy rush the password. 380 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: So if the Bears took that approach. 381 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: Where they kind of weighed what normally goes in the 382 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: second round versus what they could have in Mantes Wet, 383 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: it's very a sensible deal on their end, and a 384 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: second round pick is nice and you want that got 385 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: to be a start of a snow guarantees on the 386 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: swap Dad to get a guy who's going to be 387 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: a starter for them, and hopefully a good starter for them, 388 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 3: given the conversation they gave up for. 389 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan Pols taking his swings did not work out 390 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: well last year when he made the trade for Chase Claypool. 391 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: That experiment has already come to an en in Pittsburgh 392 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: ends up getting a high second round pick. Worked out 393 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: great for the Steelers. Hopefully this one works out a 394 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: little bit better. I think Montes swept much more proven 395 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: than Chase Claypool was at that time. All Right, one 396 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: more move here we'll get to, and that is Chase Young. 397 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: He gets traded from the Washington Commanders to the San 398 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine Ers, which shouldn't be a surprise if 399 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: you've been listening to us. We've been talking about the 400 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: forty nine ers making a move. They had cap space, 401 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: You had the history of what they've done at the deadline, 402 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: including last year with a big move for Christian McCaffrey, 403 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: how that paid off. You have the arms race that 404 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: we've discussed with them in the Philadelphia Eagles, and you're 405 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: coming off some losses It was kind of a perfect storm. 406 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: And on top of that, you've got extra draft picks, 407 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: including some an extra third round pick because you have 408 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: Ran Carthon who gets hired as the general manager of 409 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, so they're going to get a comp 410 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: pick for that one. And Demiko Ryans got hired as well, 411 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: so they have extra picks. It was a third round 412 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: pick for Chase Young, which for somebody who's having his 413 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: best year of his career. He's been injured a bunch 414 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: and he's been a little bit underwhelming, but he's healthy 415 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: this year, he's in a contract year, he's highly motivated, 416 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: and now he is reunited with his college teammate, the 417 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes with Bosa so Nick Bosa, Chase Young, Armstead, Hardgrave. 418 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: That is you know, that's quite the defensive front that 419 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: they have there with John Lynch pulling the trigger on 420 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: this move to bring in Chase Young. So I like 421 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: that one. A big one in Washington is sellers, the 422 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: big sellers. They sell off both edge rushers Montes Wet 423 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: and Chase Young, and it looks like they are looking 424 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: towards the future. They've already paid both defensive tackles, So 425 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play some young end. It's gonna 426 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: have to draft some young ends next year. But interesting, 427 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: interesting move. All right, we're gonna take a little break 428 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: when we come back. We're gonna look at the NFC 429 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: and the teams that are vying for that final seed, 430 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: that seventh seed, and see if we can't find a 431 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: winner in that bunch. We'll do that right after this. 432 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at the playoff field 433 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: here in the NFC and looking at the teams competing 434 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: for that seventh spot. Look, eight games, that's a good 435 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: chunk that we can look at here. If the season 436 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: end of today, it would be the Minnesota Vikings obviously 437 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: just lost Kirk Cousins there. Buck. But then this next 438 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: group of teams, you've got the Saints, the Bucks, the Rams, 439 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: the Commanders, and the Packers, and the Packers generously making 440 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: this board as a two to five team. So when 441 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: you look at these teams, the Commanders, as we've discussed, 442 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: they've already they've already sold, the Giants have sold Leonard Williams. 443 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: They've had quarterback health issues. So if we're saying the 444 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: Commanders and the Giants maybe not trending in the right 445 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: directtion to chase this down. I guess of the teams 446 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: if we were to say Vikings, the Kirk Cousins list 447 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: of Vikings, the Saints, the Bucks, the Rams, those to 448 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: me feel like the teams in the mix. Is there 449 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: one that you prefer and you feel confident about. 450 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: I would go with the Saints in this scenario. 451 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: And what you're looking for is a combination that a 452 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: couple of things we always talk about DJ You're looking 453 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: for a quarterback and you're looking for a defense that 454 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: can rush the pass, and so the Saints would give 455 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: me the best combination of both. 456 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: Derek Carr is. 457 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: A mid to mid high level quarterback. I would say, 458 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: like a friend's top ten quarterback. I think that you 459 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: can win with him. Offensively, Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara 460 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: and those guys, I think you must have enough points 461 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: to be competitive in most games. But defensively, that's where 462 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: they really can make their Hey, you think about Cam 463 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: Jordan Honey Badger to Mario Davis, Marshawn Lattimore. They have 464 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 3: four veteran players that are blue chip players that can 465 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: make it happen. So in this race, when you talk 466 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: about those teams racing for the seventh seed, the Saints 467 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: to me are better positioned than any of those because 468 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: they have veteran defense that knows how to make plays 469 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: when plays are needed, and then they. 470 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: Have a quarterback. They should be able to get this 471 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: offense over the line. 472 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually think it comes down to the Saints 473 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 1: and the Bucks. So you hit on the Saints, all 474 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: hit on the Bucks. Like the Bucks are in a 475 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: little bit of a skid right now, but as you 476 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of look at the schedule and how it unfolds, 477 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: I think they've got a chance to kind of get 478 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: back on track here. And well, I don't necessarily love 479 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation there, It's okay, it's you know, there's 480 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: a lot worse out there in the league right now, 481 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: and they do have some veterans on the defensive side 482 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: of the ball. We'll see what happens. As we're recording 483 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: this at the trade deadline, they haven't sold off any 484 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: of their pieces, so hopefully that doesn't screwed me over 485 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: and end up selling. But at this point in time, 486 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: I think they have enough offensive firepower they're going to 487 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: stay in this thing. I like the Rams in terms 488 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: of you know, some of the way they've played, the 489 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: way they're coached. But Stafford's health worries me going off 490 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: into the future here, and I just don't know if 491 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: they have enough pieces on the defensive side of the ball. 492 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: They're fun to watch on offense, I just don't know 493 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: if they're good enough there. And you add into that 494 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: buck the division that they're in, you know, a tough 495 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: one there. So to me, those feel like the two 496 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: And let's wait and see what the Vikings look like 497 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: with a new quarterback. Obviously, don't want to rule them out. 498 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: I thought with Kirk Cousins, they're clearly the class of 499 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: this group of teams. 500 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're clearly the class man, and I won't discount 501 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: or dismiss their chances. 502 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: Of being able to do it. 503 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in Brian Floores and what he's 504 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: able to do with this defense. This defense man, they 505 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 3: wear you out. They cover zero pressure scheme that he's 506 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 3: been utilizing. They they've given good teams problems and so 507 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: more pressure on them to probably generate more turnovers keep 508 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 3: the score down as they're trying to figure out what 509 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: to do offensively. I wouldn't dismiss the chances, but it'd 510 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: be interesting to see what did they do at quarterback. 511 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: Can they price somebody, anybody away from a team that 512 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: is willing to give up a quarterback. I don't know, 513 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: But if they have a quarterback, just a decent quarterback, 514 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: I think you can lock. 515 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 2: This team in as a seven seed in the NFC. 516 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: When I get back to the Bucks here real quick, 517 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: here's their group of games they've got coming up. They 518 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: are at Houston, that's a winnable game. Tennessee at home, 519 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: winnable game, now you look at it. At the Niners, 520 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: that's a rough one. But then back after that at 521 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: the Colts, Carolina, Atlanta, Green Bay. I mean, there's a 522 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: lot of winnables on here. For Tampa. They've got to 523 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: get right here. This next month, November is big for them. 524 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: They've got to get back on track having lost three 525 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: games in a row, a couple of them very close 526 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: to Atlanta and Buffalo. But I like the Bucks to 527 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: stay in this thing. I think it's going to come 528 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: down to those two teams. I think it's the Saints 529 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: and the Bucks in that fight for that seventh seed. 530 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: So we'll see how it all shakes out. We'll keep 531 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: an eye on this as we go through the rest 532 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: of the year. All right, let's get to the rookies. 533 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: Can we do the rookies? Don't I don't want to 534 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: spend too much time talking about last week. It was 535 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: not great for the both of us. Gibbs three points 536 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: for Rhett, Addison, three points for HTT, Laporta three points 537 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: for Rhett. He crushed us. He got the top guy 538 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: at every single position. Buck, you end up getting two 539 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: points with Bijon and JSN. I got a big fat one. 540 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: Dalton Kin kid got me one point as the second 541 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: performing tight end. If you look at where we are 542 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: for the season, worst hide Buck thirty three apiece and 543 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Rhett has closed the gap. He's at twenty nine. So 544 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: he's uh, he's bringing down our neck. But we've got it. 545 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: We've got to bounce back this week. I like our chances. 546 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna, first of all, before I start 547 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: us off with the first pick of those rookies. The 548 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: performances you saw from Rhtt, those three pointers, any of 549 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: them stand out to you. 550 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 3: The Detroit Lions rookies being able to do it. You know, 551 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: we talked about the rookies and the rookie impacs was. 552 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: We always talk about that on the podcast. These guys 553 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: have been phenomenal Samuel samuela Porter and Jamie Gibbs being 554 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: able to make contributions right away. This Lions team has 555 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: done a really good job the last two years putting 556 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 3: back to back rookie classes that have been able to 557 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 3: make contributions right away. But these two guys offensively, I 558 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: don't know if anybody thought that they would come like this. 559 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 3: People thought Jamiy Gis would make an impact with sam 560 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: Laport have been able to make plays stretch the defense 561 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 3: as a vertical stretch play maker down the middle of 562 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: the field. He is being better than advertised. Man, this 563 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: Lions team is kind of creeping into title contention status 564 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 3: because of their young players playing really really well from 565 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: day one. 566 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: And Jamier Gibbs, going back through some of my notes 567 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: on him, Gosh, he ran four three six coming out. 568 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: I had fashion in the backfield in the slot, jet 569 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: sweeps burst, He's a slasher. I'm not really in move 570 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: the pile runner. He's got natural hands, excellent the screen game, 571 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: big time FBI so Football Intelligence and pass Pro and 572 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: it was kind of going back through and looking at 573 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: him and who he reminded me of coming out, and 574 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of kind of that little 575 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: bit of Jamal Charles vibe to him, even a little 576 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: bit of Chris Johnson, like just when he gets out 577 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: in the open field. He's got a different gear now, 578 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: not quite the home run speed that Chris Johnson had, 579 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: but he can go big time, big time dude. All right, 580 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: I've got the first pick today, buck, this is rebound week. 581 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,239 Speaker 1: I've got to get back, got to get right. And 582 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the buys here and I'm seeing what 583 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs having a bye. I'm gonna go Bijon with 584 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: the first pick. I'm gonna see if I can get 585 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: get a point here. Three uh three for first place, 586 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: right one for second. So I'm gonna go be Jeon 587 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: Robinson with the first pick. You're up next. 588 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: Oh man, that's tough, like the bid week's factory in 589 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: And I'm just sitting here thinking. 590 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: Like what who can I lean on? Who can I 591 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: depend on? My guy? My guys are done. Let me 592 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: see d because I don't have a right in front 593 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: of me. 594 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: Let's see if I can take Seattle up this week, 595 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 3: Can I take Zach Charboney? Can I try to seattle 596 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: some points for me? Yeah, so let's go with Zach 597 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 3: Sharon running back up choice for the week. Yeah, I'm 598 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: going to Zach Scharbony. 599 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: See you can go and for planning for planning purposes. Uh, 600 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna let Drew is gonna get in my ear 601 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: and tell me who rhtt has on his board. But 602 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: just see you nobook the buys. This week, we've got Denver, Detroit, 603 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Jacksonville, as you know with Jacksonville, so you've 604 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: got sharbon Ay and Drew's got in my ear and 605 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: said he's gonna go CJ. Stroud for Rep. So he's 606 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: gonna take the first quarterback off the board and then 607 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: he's got another one here. When are we going Jordan Addison? 608 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: Oh so so we're back to quarterback doing quarterbacks this week. 609 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: We're back to quarterback. We're back to quarterbacks and then 610 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: pass catchers. So we're combining the wide receivers and the 611 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: tight ends. So hey, well dude, you've got options here, 612 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: You've got you've got a lot of places you can go. 613 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: You're up next buck, Yeah. 614 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm up next level so he took C. J. Strowder. 615 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: Who else he does a snake draft? Who's the other guy? 616 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison? Yeah, Jordan Addison the white out? 617 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, c Jordan Adison. 618 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So now the guy and me, after seeing Will 619 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: Levis throw four touchdowns, would be like, let's go Will. 620 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: I feel like the football guys won't reward me though, 621 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: based on some of my pre draft commentary. However, I'm 622 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 3: kind of shake and I'm gonna say, Will Levis, let's go. 623 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: Let's see Will Levis can go and give you some 624 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: points this week for the Tennessee Titans. 625 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I like it. I'm gonna double check 626 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: and see who who my guy is playing here this 627 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: next one. I got a lot of love from Panthers fans, 628 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: by the way, is picking them to win last week. 629 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: There was not a lot of people on that Panthers bandwagon. 630 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: I believe buck they got their first one. I'm gonna 631 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I've got no choice really taking Bryce, 632 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: taking Bryce Young with my next pick. They are playing 633 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: against the Colts there at home, So I've got Bryce 634 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: Young with that pick. Now I need a pass catcher, 635 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: and I mean, why why go away from Pooka. When 636 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: Pooka has been this good to me, I'm gonna stick 637 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: with Pooka. Nakua that leaves you Buck, you are. 638 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: That that leaves me? 639 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: Well, I really don't have a choice because like the 640 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: way that I'm going, I can't take two Seahawks, I 641 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: don't want to take Jess and I feel like I've 642 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: rolled a dice in one last week. Let's go with 643 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: Zave Flowers to see if za Flowers can do something 644 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: this week. 645 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I like it, and then gosh, hold on, I 646 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: think I'm hearing in my ear that I've got an 647 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: interesting pick from rhet here. He's got the running back 648 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: that he still needs. He is going to go with 649 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: Imari de Mercado from the Cardinals, who has one hundred 650 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: and ninety five rushing yards this year. He's got a touchdown, 651 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: So I believe that's the first time, right, first first 652 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: edition for him. Yeah, on the on the draft, so 653 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: de Marcatto, welcome. Rett's not here and he's swinging for 654 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: the fences. I don't know. Drew might have gone rogue 655 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: on that one. I don't know if Drew are you? 656 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Are you ken? 657 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 3: We'll see, well, we'll see. Well, we'll see if Rhett 658 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: had any influence on it. We take some live Hey man, 659 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: you sure you want the Cardinals right bit? 660 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: You know? 661 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he went for it. Of course, Drew has said 662 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: that on the list that RHTT sent in with his stack, 663 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: with his order of players to draft, that he had 664 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: a couple of guys around buys. So Rett not doing 665 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: his homework. It's too bad. It's too bad, Buck. He 666 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: might have lost an opportunity for some points there. All right, 667 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's going to do it for the rookie 668 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: draft again. We'll tabulate these next week and we'll update 669 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: the standings and see if Ritt can completely close the 670 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: gap here. He's within striking distance for sure. All right, 671 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. Fun one did 672 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: miss having read here, but his spirit was here. His 673 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: spirit was with us. Appreciate you guys hanging with us. 674 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow again. Five days a week. We're 675 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: here for you right here on. Move the sticks