1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: When you say that you're a Claire sentient, what does 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: that mean to people? It means I feel spirit So 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: there are what we call the Claire's Claire Sentient, Claire Audience, 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: Claire Gustin's, and these are basically heightened senses. So clairvoyance. 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: People hear about clairvoyance all the time, clear seeing, so 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: clai r means clear, and so Claire sentient means I 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: feel spirits, so I get a sense of their personalities. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Things like that. Hollistar, I love the title Everything you 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Wanted to Know about the Afterlife? How did you come 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: up with that? Well, I've been doing events for the 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: last nine years. I have not disappeared off the planet, 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: and at these events people asked questions, question after question, 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: and I started writing these questions down and there were 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: themes and the same questions We're being asked over and 16 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: over and over again. So I thought, Okay, it's about 17 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: time to put those questions together and the answers together, 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: and that's how this book was born. Do a lot 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: of people fear the afterlife? That is such an interesting question. 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: When I first started doing this work. About twenty five 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: years ago, people were afraid of what happens after you die. 22 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Now there's much more acceptance about, you know, with spirit 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: communication and that kind of thing, So people are more 24 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: open to the concept of life after death and that 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Now the questions around fear are will 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I be separated from someone I love? What happens if 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: they reincarnate and I die? Am I going to miss them? 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: Or what happens in the afterlife? Do I have to 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: live with all four husbands I had? So those are 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: the fears that are coming up now. Interesting take now, 31 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: you wrote this book for the mask, of course, but 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: was it targeted specifically to any group? There is something 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: for everyone in this book, and what I say to people, 34 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: if you're new to the subject, you can choose whatever 35 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: questions you want. So the questions are listed in the 36 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: front of the book, and people can look at the 37 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: question they want answered, go to that answer, and then 38 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: at the end of that answer are suggestions of other 39 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: questions that they may want to explore. Or you can 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: start at the beginning of the book and read all 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the way to the end. But it is as in 42 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: depth and experience as people want to have. They are 43 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: exercises in there if you want to start communicating with 44 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: your loved ones, if you're already an end path, already medium, 45 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: already a spirit communicator, there is something in there for 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: you as well. Well, you've laid it out great with 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: a number of questions well over you know, sixty questions plus, yeah, 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: and there were plenty more. I mean the hardest thing 49 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: was limiting the questions, yeah, and cutting them down. Of 50 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: course that was tough. And you start off with the 51 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: probably the question everybody wants to know, and that is 52 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: is there really an afterlife? And you know, I guess 53 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: people ask me that Hollister quite a bit, and my 54 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: answer is kind of simple. I say, you'll find out 55 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: when you die, and if you don't, it doesn't matter. 56 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, you could have saved me a whole lot 57 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: of trouble answering that first question. Well, I was actually 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: shocked at where the first question in the book was asked. 59 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: It was asked on a cruise, a metaphysical cruise, by 60 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: the way, and during a workshop when we had cruises, right, yes, 61 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: when we had cruises, remember those. So it was a 62 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: metaphysical group. And what I do at my events as 63 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: people write out their questions, put them in a basket, 64 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: and I pull them out because I've discovered sometimes people 65 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: don't want to ask a question in public. Maybe it's 66 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: too personal, you know, or they don't want to be embarrassed, 67 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: or they don't want to speak in front of people. 68 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: So I pulled this out of the hat, so to speak, 69 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: and was kind of stunned because I thought, well, gee, 70 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm in a group of people. I thought that was 71 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: pretty much a solved question, and so I paused there 72 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: for a second, and I could have been flippant, Well, 73 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: of course there's an afterlife. I'm a medium. What else 74 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: am I going to say? But then I paused and 75 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: I thought I have to hear what spirit has to say. 76 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: Is there really an afterlife? It deserves an answer. And 77 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: what Spirit gave me in that moment, as I looked 78 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: out at every buddy in the audience and could see 79 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: their loved ones with them, there isn't an afterlife. According 80 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: to the spirits, there is just life. Well that is 81 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: absolutely perfect too, There is just life. And do you 82 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: believe in reincarnation? I do? And in your opinion, why 83 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: do we reincarnate? I always thought it was to become 84 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: more perfect to reach that heavenly state. Oh, I think 85 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: there are a variety of reasons. I think there are 86 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: as many reasons to reincarnate as there are people, personalities, 87 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: things to learn, and I do think people come back 88 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: to also teach help mankind. I don't think it's I 89 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: don't think reincarnation is a one size fits all. And 90 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: this is one of the questions that comes from fear 91 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: that I get from people. What happens if I die 92 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: and my loved one is reincarnated? Are we going to 93 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: miss each other? Like somehow we're all going through a 94 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: revolving door and you know, Oops, I went out the door. 95 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: I'm on the street. Oops, he went in the door 96 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: and he's inside. You know, somehow we miss each other 97 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: spinning around in this great universe. And that is just 98 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: not how the spirits have presented it to me. How 99 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: about ghosts. You believe in ghosts? Yeah, I do. I've 100 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: met quite a few in my life, and I don't 101 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: like that the most part. I prefer spirits. So in 102 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: my book, I talk about the difference between ghosts and spirits. 103 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: What is that difference? Well, I say that ghosts are 104 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: spirits with a bad attitude. I love that. That's probably true. 105 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, there are a lot of disgruntled They're not happy, 106 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: are they spirits out there? They are not happy campers, 107 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: no now. And so that's why in my work I 108 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: work specifically at the frequency of love, and at that frequency, 109 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: the only spirits that can speak to me are those 110 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: that have the best interest set heart of those who 111 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: come to see me. So I don't I don't talk. 112 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like the GPS to the good neighborhoods 113 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: in the afterlife. Well with Hollister Rand, your new book 114 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: Everything you wanted to know about the Afterlife comes out 115 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: not too long from now, just right around the say, 116 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: it's something like that right around there. To be sure, 117 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: how did this all begin for you? How did this start? Well, 118 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: it was a bit of a process. It wasn't like 119 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: one day I woke up and went, oh, I'm going 120 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: to be a medium. I saw spirits when I was young. 121 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: There were spirits I recognized, like my grandfather, whom I loved. 122 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: So the concept of death was a little wonky for me. 123 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't quite figure out why people were saying my 124 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: grandfather was dead when I could see papap at night. 125 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: But then there were others that I didn't know, so 126 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: I kind of had this stranger danger thing, like whoo, 127 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: who are these people and what are they doing here? 128 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: And I also got the message that maybe this was 129 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: not the best thing for me to be doing, and 130 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: I pretty much shut it down. But when I was 131 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: in a car accident in my late teens, from my 132 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: late teens to my early twenties, I suffered a you know, 133 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: sort of a cataclysmic awakening where I couldn't tell the 134 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: difference between the living and the dead. And then after 135 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: that I met other people who showed me the way 136 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: and started to explain myself to me and I no 137 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: longer felt like a weirdo. And then eventually I realized, 138 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this can be useful for people. I 139 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: can be in service. And that's when the light went on, 140 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: when it went from a burden to a blessing. Do 141 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: you think the car accident of jarge you into this mode? Yes, 142 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: I do. I had a severe head injury as part 143 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: of the accident. It was a very very serious accident. 144 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: And now what I'm discovering is that these days, because 145 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: of accepted spirituality, kids don't shut down anymore. They remain 146 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: connected because kids naturally are connected with spirit, and so 147 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: there isn't that shutting down, and there doesn't have to 148 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: be a jarring trauma to wake people up anymore. So 149 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm delighted with this. I love working with the parents 150 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: of sensitive kids. It gets to be pretty emotional too, 151 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,479 Speaker 1: I bet Hollister, doesn't it, especially when you work on. 152 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: One of the things that I work with my students 153 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: with is how to keep the energy moving through you 154 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: so you do not get caught up up in the 155 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: emotion of the people you're with. So when you connect 156 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: with spirit, it's at the love, joy, peace connection, not 157 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: at the empathy, sympathy, pain and grief. Now let's talk 158 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more about demodic spirits. What creates those 159 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: kind of entities. Well, I don't know about your creation 160 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: of them. I did grow up in the church, and 161 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: I was also involved with the charismatic Christian Church, so 162 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: I saw some very kind of creepy, scary things. And 163 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: so when people say to me, oh, evil isn't real, 164 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: there's no such things as demons, I'm like, well, okay, 165 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: you obviously haven't met a few. That's right. Take them 166 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: to an exorcism once you have. You really, that's one 167 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons why this frequency of love and holding 168 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: these frequencies here on the earth very very important because 169 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: fear anger, the lower level emotions can be used by 170 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: certain entities. And so this is why I work with 171 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: people to raise this energy high so that the spirits 172 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: of the highest order are given a place at the banquet, 173 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a place at the table of 174 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: our life on earth. All of us have had a 175 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: loved one who has probably passed on Hollister, and of 176 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: course one day we all will be gone. Sadly to say, 177 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: but that's part of living. And what can people expect 178 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: when they take that last breath? Kind of paint us 179 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: a picture of what we can expect to happen. I 180 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: am really glad you asked that, especially at this moment 181 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: in time, because so many people are leaving the planet 182 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: in a way where will assume they are dying alone. 183 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: So there's pain all around around the dying experience. It's 184 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: unexpected in some ways. It's sudden people seem to be 185 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: getting better and then all of a sudden they're dead. 186 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: Their family can't be with them. So I must say 187 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: to everybody, no one dies alone. Let me be really 188 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: clear about that and say it again. No one dies alone. 189 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: What happens is the room fills up with loved ones 190 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: in spirit fills up with angels. If angels are called in, 191 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: so as a person is passing, they are loved, they 192 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: are guided, and they are welcomed. Now, since you've been 193 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: doing this, which has been a number of incredible years, 194 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: have you come across a situation that either baffled you 195 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: or scared you. People ask me whether this frightens me. 196 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: Not anymore, I have to say the ghostbusting stuff roof, Yeah, 197 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: don't want to revisit that there was some scar. You know, 198 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: there was scary stuff there, bafflement. I'm very interested in 199 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: understanding things. So sometimes what baffles me is the idea 200 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: that people can't change after they die. I remember I 201 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: spoke with a spirit and the woman said to me, well, 202 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: that's all great, but you know, I can't believe that 203 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: there has been a change, that he has changed after 204 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: he died. I'm like, what you think, we die and 205 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: we don't change. That we're stuck in one way, shape 206 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: or form for eternity. That the limitation, I think baffles me. 207 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: The idea that we are limited beings. That surprises me. 208 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: Is there a spiritual or religious aspect to the dying 209 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: process and the afterlife process or is it really just 210 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: part of this universe. Well, you can make it religious, 211 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: you can make it spiritual. Belief has a lot to 212 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: do with how we experience death and dying. I've had 213 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: angels show up in rooms when I've been talking with 214 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: a spirit, and I will say, your mother is here 215 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: with angels. She said, she flew on the wings of 216 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: angels because you asked them to escort her. And so 217 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: there's a way we can almost create our experience as 218 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: we pass One woman said, too, said to me, I 219 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: wanted to die and see the face of God. And 220 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: her daughter said those were her final words, And of 221 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: course I had to ask, being the curious person, I am, well, 222 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: did you see the face of God? And she said, 223 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I did not see the face of God. God is everywhere. 224 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: Stephen's go ahead, that's something Stephen's jobs from Apple computer 225 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: when he died right before he passed on said oh wow, 226 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: oh wow. Yeah? What was he What was it just 227 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: something that was happening to his brain because of the 228 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: dying process, or was he really seeing somewhere? Well, you know, 229 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: what I think he was seeing was the real network. See, 230 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: this was a man who worked in networks, and so 231 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: as we die, we get to see the network we're 232 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: plugged into um and so I think he suddenly saw 233 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: these universal networks that in some way he was tapping 234 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: into here with Internet and this idea of conicivity, I 235 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: think with dying that oh wow, it's like these networks 236 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: really are here. They really are. It's truly remarkable. There's 237 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: really nothing to fear about the other side, is there. No, 238 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't find that there's anything to fear. I'm kind 239 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: of excited about the idea that people right now are 240 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: thinking about afterlife. I'm sorry that it's happening. In the 241 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: way it's happening. This is a very painful thing for 242 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the planet. But what I am hoping is that as 243 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: people are thinking about afterlife, as they are addressing their 244 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: fears and enquiring about their fears, you know, asking for 245 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: more information, that we will become more loving, more compassionate. 246 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: That is my hope. Listen to more Coast to Coast 247 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: AM every weeknight at one am Eastern and go to 248 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast am dot com for more