WEBVTT - Thinking Thin Era w/ Devyn & Da'Vonne

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everyone, wake up from door. I ate too much

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<v Speaker 1>your Thanksgiving slumber.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Devin Simone and I am Davon Rogers, good and

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<v Speaker 2>full okay, and this is MTV's official challenge podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't that the truth? Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, guys, there's no guest today. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just us cousins.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but that just means that Devin and I can

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<v Speaker 2>really really get into this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, how is it going girl? What we're doing? What

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is the best time of the year

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<v Speaker 4>because it's leftover season and I love the good leftover.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely a fan of a good leftover.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes that's better than the original.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the season and has had had time to set

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<v Speaker 2>in there getting what it needs to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, coming like this episode had time.

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<v Speaker 2>To settle in and get what it needed to get

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<v Speaker 2>because I ate, Yes, I ate on this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you something that Dad gone. Corey. He

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<v Speaker 3>is surprising me.

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<v Speaker 2>I am happy that tyb is in their separate perspective

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<v Speaker 2>corners Okay, and he is here by himself because Corey

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<v Speaker 2>is focused. I haven't seen Corey this focused, and to

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<v Speaker 2>see him he doesn't have any of his people there, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he has his woman and his children, his

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<v Speaker 2>family at home, so he's not worried about any women

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<v Speaker 2>inside of the house. Like Corey is there for the wind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, his child is in a classroom with Kardashian,

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<v Speaker 2>so we know he don't need the money. So he

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<v Speaker 2>is there for the title and I want him to

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<v Speaker 2>get it so bad. Like oh, even down to when

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm realizing that Jordan is my biggest competition,

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<v Speaker 2>so if I have to go down in the sand,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be the one to take him out.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, oh doing the thing. Yeah, he definitely is.

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<v Speaker 4>I love seeing what we're and we saw it in

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<v Speaker 4>this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just love.

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<v Speaker 4>Seeing the growth, Like I love seeing him talk about representation,

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<v Speaker 4>Like just this boy has just.

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<v Speaker 1>Grown so much. Oh, I really am proud of him.

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<v Speaker 4>But as much as I want to see him, when

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<v Speaker 4>I do, man, my heart is going to my boy Derek.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I wanted to pull it out so much.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's Kylin, Like obviously I love calling too,

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<v Speaker 4>but Derek is just I like, I just adore him

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<v Speaker 4>and like, you know, I've known him a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know's there's a lot of good people.

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<v Speaker 4>That's part of what's making this season so great, is

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<v Speaker 4>there a lot of good people, a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>To root for. I didn't realize. And I know, I know, to.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, y'all listener are gonna be like Devin huh because

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<v Speaker 4>we do this podcast. But I didn't because they're so

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<v Speaker 4>adept at how they play and communicate in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Realize that Kyland and that Michelle had never made it

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<v Speaker 4>to a final.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, because they're so good. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you would think I was a given, Like they're yeah there.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like in the finals in my mind already so

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<v Speaker 4>like and so hearing them say that was like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 4>like dang wow and then and then I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna laugh. Part of me it was also like

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<v Speaker 4>two seasons, two finals.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, my look, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Human, all right, I know, I'm only human. Blame it

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<v Speaker 4>on the turkey talking.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, I feel bad for y'all, but as for

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<v Speaker 2>me and my house, we know what the final look like.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, oh, wow, okay, yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>because they really are, which is a compliment still to

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<v Speaker 4>them because they are just such skilled players and so

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<v Speaker 4>good at at all that, honestly, and just in my

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<v Speaker 4>mind is like, of course they've been to finals and

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<v Speaker 4>they heck, I still think Michelle mastermind that whole final,

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<v Speaker 4>even though she wouldn't know it a couple of like

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<v Speaker 4>like she was just running things so well.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's a really good season. A lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into this daily first.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, when it was silent and everybody was staying there

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<v Speaker 4>looking at that pile of LEAs, what was going through

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<v Speaker 4>your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, where's TJ?

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<v Speaker 2>Because we all we know TJ is going to have

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<v Speaker 2>some type of nomadic entrance, right, but looking at it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking he's gonna come in on.

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<v Speaker 1>What the thing called an ATV?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what's called He.

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<v Speaker 2>Was gonna come in on one of them, some type

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<v Speaker 2>of dirt bike, some something.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought TJ was gonna pop up like that.

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<v Speaker 2>When that man came up out of there like a

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<v Speaker 2>gopher is going.

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<v Speaker 4>On, Oh, that's gonna be his nickname from now on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Okay, only those only us here.

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<v Speaker 4>At the Official Challenge Podcast, and all you listeners are

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<v Speaker 4>Challenge tracass fam. You're gonna know when we say gopher,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna know who we're talking about, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>tell you'll know they're a real challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Stand that's freaking hilarious. I would never let.

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<v Speaker 2>Gophers TJ going, and I just I did not. I

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<v Speaker 2>was not expecting that. But it was really cool to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what was not cool for me? Devin?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I could have done this one?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So first of all, I didn't realize I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna claim that over my life. I'm not claustrophobic,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got some tendency ish.

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<v Speaker 1>You got some folks, is some folks, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my very first season of the Challenge, they

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<v Speaker 2>put me in a coffin and bury me in a cemetery.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I've kind of wanted you to do that? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that weird, ma'am?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is that a want in your life?

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<v Speaker 4>No? I mean, and a competition setting, not in like

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<v Speaker 4>a let's just go to a graveyard setting.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell your don't put me down here real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not like in a competitive setting.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, So going in there in that tiny hole,

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<v Speaker 2>like the space looked so small, right, even TJ looked

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<v Speaker 2>like he was stuck. The only thing I could really

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<v Speaker 2>think about was and I know he's not there, but

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<v Speaker 2>how would CT have done trying to get down.

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<v Speaker 3>Up in there and maneuver through that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Like it just it looks terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>So to go into that closed space and then in

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<v Speaker 2>the dark, and then you tell me it's rats and

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<v Speaker 2>bats that would strike thirty six thousand immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what you make rats and bats down here? And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see what's going on, Johnny talking about you

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<v Speaker 2>can't see in front of your face. The whole setup,

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<v Speaker 2>said Davon, be prepared to go home. The whole setup

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<v Speaker 2>told me to get ready to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, what would be scarier?

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<v Speaker 4>So that or like just being in like a coffin

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<v Speaker 4>like you mentioned, just surrounded by bugs, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>when they pour bugs over you and you're like covered

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<v Speaker 4>in bugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think this one is easier because you can

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<v Speaker 2>move right, you can move so if I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tori said.

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<v Speaker 3>She got slapped in the face by bad Yes, if

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<v Speaker 3>one got slapped.

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<v Speaker 2>In the face, Devin, I got slapped in the face

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<v Speaker 2>by bat, I would have went home. They wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>had to put me in elimination, I'd have been like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been real, y'all, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like I too realized. I don't like

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<v Speaker 4>tight spaces. I also don't like feeling like I can't

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<v Speaker 4>easily get home. Yeah, anything that means like if I'm

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<v Speaker 4>at a slumber party at your house is back when

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<v Speaker 4>as a kid, I need to know the exits and

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<v Speaker 4>then I can go home at any point. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like feeling like I can't, that there's no turning back.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also feel like I'm pretty decent at mind

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<v Speaker 4>over matter, Like I'm pretty Maybe that was like pain pain,

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't want to get hit, but with like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing is scaring me, but kind of fight or flight.

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<v Speaker 4>I fight so like I can keep my brain calm

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<v Speaker 4>long enough to get out of the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then be like, oh my gosh, what was I

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<v Speaker 1>just doing.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, in this situation, I also just feel like

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<v Speaker 4>propstory not only for winning my b for being first,

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<v Speaker 4>because two, there's always a disadvantage going first, and in

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<v Speaker 4>this particular challenge, the two disadvantages were one like, granted,

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<v Speaker 4>they can't really talk to each other on this one

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<v Speaker 4>as much until they all kind of make it to

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<v Speaker 4>that little holding cell thing at the end. But still

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<v Speaker 4>you just really don't know what to expect, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like you don't know the standard, you don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always you never want to go first.

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<v Speaker 4>And then two, the bats are still sleeping, so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure she got hit in the face by a back because.

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<v Speaker 1>She was one of the first ones to go down there.

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<v Speaker 4>Where if you managed to be the last one, the

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<v Speaker 4>bats are already up and like moving and doing stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>so they know you're coming.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll see you in my notes because I said,

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<v Speaker 2>usually going far this is a disadvantage, right, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're the guinea pig. But for this particular daily,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like going first was a good thing because

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<v Speaker 2>the longer it went, the darker it got. So imagine

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<v Speaker 2>going through that tunnel at not like Rachel couldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been me.

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<v Speaker 4>See you're in my notes too, because yep, I did

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<v Speaker 4>comment about the Rachel going in at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that part couldn't have been me. Mm mmmmmm. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that I would have liked that, but mid

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<v Speaker 1>day would have been fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, but first, no, because the bats are sleeping

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like it's like going through did you guys

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<v Speaker 4>ever play like outdoors when you would play tag or

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<v Speaker 4>hide and go seek and some tidying in the bushes,

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<v Speaker 4>or you're like going through kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a woody backyard.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're the first person going through, there's all sorts

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<v Speaker 4>of like spider webs and stuff that you're walking through.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you're like the fifth person to go, everybody

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<v Speaker 4>else got spiders in their face. So you're cool, Like

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<v Speaker 4>you're good because it's cleared out now and so I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like clear it out. Thank you for creating a path

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<v Speaker 3>for me exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, speaking of paths, I don't know what's up with

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<v Speaker 4>our senior squad this episode. Two of some of the

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<v Speaker 4>most capable people on the Challenge and Challenge history. I'd say,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about bananas and rage. Yeah, Nana's crushed it

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<v Speaker 4>with like the speed, and both of them, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if you caught this day. Both of them said

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<v Speaker 4>in their interviews like, oh, remember to turn a puzzle over,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like or whatever, And I'm thinking, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>you just now got that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, And it's so funny how they set it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoever created this particular daily Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>A funny how they set it up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only a double four. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the eyes and the mouth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was like three pieces is what darre said.

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<v Speaker 4>Had were double sided. But she is shady. That's like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a level of head Yeah, because you can't even

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<v Speaker 4>say they didn't turn and looked, because maybe they turned

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<v Speaker 4>and looked at another one piece that wasn't double sided.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a level of shady.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, shout out to them. Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we have to take a quick break, but

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<v Speaker 4>we'll be right back after this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's get back to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>I have another question we've been seeing on this season,

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<v Speaker 4>and i'd love you guys, Sliding our DM. We want

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<v Speaker 4>to hear your feedback and thoughts on all of this,

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<v Speaker 4>So Sliding our dms hit us up.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is now. We've talked about this a couple

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<v Speaker 1>times before.

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<v Speaker 4>Rachel's strategy of putting the pieces on the table next

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<v Speaker 4>to her like everyone else did plug and play right,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like those little kids blocks thing, Like they

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<v Speaker 4>plugged it in and then if it didn't fit, they'd

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<v Speaker 4>pull one out.

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<v Speaker 1>And it seemed to work a little bit better for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Outside of bananas, but her shifting them around like a

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<v Speaker 4>car dealer in Vegas on the table just seemed to put.

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<v Speaker 1>Her behind it. And we saw that what with Durell.

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<v Speaker 4>Earlier this season, Like we've seen this a few times

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<v Speaker 4>where people try to like free strategize. Was it Olivia

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<v Speaker 4>or someone No, Michelle I think is the one who

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<v Speaker 4>put him on the ground, or was it Olivia.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Anyway, we've seen that.

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<v Speaker 4>What are your thoughts about people like not just going

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<v Speaker 4>for it and trying to like strategize it before putting

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<v Speaker 4>a puzzle piece in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the person, because like you were saying

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<v Speaker 2>about the elimination between Olivia and Michelle, right, So Olivia

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<v Speaker 2>put those pieces down there, she did the lengths and

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<v Speaker 2>how they would go because that ultimately was a puzzle

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<v Speaker 2>as well. So she put the pieces down there and

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<v Speaker 2>she figured it out. I think it just depends on

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<v Speaker 2>the person and how they can maneuver through it. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Rachel was frazzled. Yeah, I think Rachel was extremely frazzle.

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<v Speaker 2>She was in one of the last heats. It was

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<v Speaker 2>dark time, like you know she I think she was

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<v Speaker 2>just frazzled. But for Olivia it worked for me. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>that works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I have to

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<v Speaker 2>actually put it on the board to make it make sight.

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<v Speaker 2>And then sometimes I can see something on the ground

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh, come on, let's just go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and put this up here. You see what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like what Michelle did. The pieces were up there,

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<v Speaker 2>stepped back, she looked at it as she started putting together.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was like the sentence or not elimination

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<v Speaker 2>or not eliminated or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, and it clicked for her.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's just the perspective of the person.

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<v Speaker 3>Which one works for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's really a question.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I would just kind of go for it

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<v Speaker 4>because what we saw for some of them, like I

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<v Speaker 4>forgot who but one person when they had the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so messed up. They did that to DJ's eye.

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<v Speaker 4>When they had the eyewonky A part of it didn't

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<v Speaker 4>fit because when they put the piece in that side,

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't go all the way I think maybe it

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<v Speaker 4>was cars.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't go all the way down. So that actually

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<v Speaker 1>kind of helped.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's still called for check, but I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like that kind of helped alert her that like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>that probably isn't it. So I wondered if with Rachel,

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<v Speaker 4>if her putting some pieces in would have at least

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<v Speaker 4>helped kind of from a size standpoint of like hmm, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe not this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely agree with.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's just my thought for I feel like if

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<v Speaker 4>it weren't timed, then sure, like do your work ahead

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<v Speaker 4>of time around, but when it's time, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Better shove that thing in there and figure it out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is why I didn't understand Cory.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my only bone to pick with you, Corey,

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<v Speaker 2>because what you down there, puzzle king baby, that was

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<v Speaker 2>like three seconds on your time that you was wasting

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<v Speaker 2>while you was down there screaming, and he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>came up and did it. I did find humor in

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he thought it was him. I was

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you don't look like this.

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<v Speaker 4>That was hilarious until he got to the lips and

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<v Speaker 4>then he was like, may by the lips, note, can

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<v Speaker 4>we get a split screen please? I know this is

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<v Speaker 4>an a visual podcast, but like, at what point does

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<v Speaker 4>TJ and Corey look alike?

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<v Speaker 1>And no? Never, literally point not never do they look like?

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<v Speaker 4>Also, TJ laughing, like holding his side so good behind

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<v Speaker 4>him when Bananas were struggling, was very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>So good. Their pants are back and forth, like.

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<v Speaker 2>I always appreciate their banter in all seasons, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because they keeping on Banana since before Banana's knew bananas right.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he had the internet. Yeah alone, right, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know he kind of watched him grow up.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I really enjoy watching their banter. What I

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<v Speaker 2>did not enjoy and what I think is it may

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<v Speaker 2>be a little controversial. Uh, the take on of ev

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean when she breaks the barrier, lets

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<v Speaker 2>she goes, she goes through this other direction right of which, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's let's really sit back and talk about this.

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<v Speaker 3>As for me, I probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Would have gotten DQ two AVIV because if it's dark

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<v Speaker 2>and this is the only exit I see, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to assume that the challenge people.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is the only one she saw.

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<v Speaker 4>No, she said, winning doubt go backwards, So that means

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't the only exit she had. Another way, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I thought that was the only one she saw.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there were sticks like it. She needed to go back.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like she hit a dead end in the tunnel basically,

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<v Speaker 4>but instead of turning around, she saw the like sticks. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I will say this potentially, when they showed what the

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<v Speaker 4>sticks looked like, it looked like they were too It

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<v Speaker 4>looked like it was the flintstones, like two big right,

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<v Speaker 4>like they weren't really logs, but they also were bigger

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<v Speaker 4>than like normal sticks, like crossed out in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of her size.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there a chance that she thought that was potentially

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<v Speaker 4>just a general obstacle and not like like I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not like an actual barrier.

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<v Speaker 1>We that questions that need to be answered, Because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I thought. I would have thought that

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<v Speaker 2>they put the sticks there to try to mess with me. Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 2>let me get this out the way and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>call crawl through and see what happens. But when she

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<v Speaker 2>got out that thing and baby was lost in the wind,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like me.

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<v Speaker 4>At the thrift store. She was like me at Super Target.

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<v Speaker 4>Just didn't know where to go. Which way was upper down,

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<v Speaker 4>he's right in the aisle, was trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>where is the cereal?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Girl was running for her life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I felt so bad for her. I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt so bad for her, especially because this one

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<v Speaker 4>really was kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Hers to win. It really was hers to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Because she could have slid right through that tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>She could have. She really could.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how are you with slider puzzles? Because the slider

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<v Speaker 2>would have took me out?

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<v Speaker 1>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but for whatever reason, like, let's say that it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it starts a certain way, right, and we can

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<v Speaker 2>see what it is. Like we saw that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a forty it was, you know, we saw that some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>When I get the shuffling, okay, it might turn into

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty because I don't know what I do wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just shuffle the thing and make it worse

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<v Speaker 2>than when they first prepared it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, I'd say pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I will say this about my brain, especially as

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<v Speaker 4>I am the age I am now. When my brain

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<v Speaker 4>is on, be afraid, come on, man, But when my

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<v Speaker 4>brain is off.

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<v Speaker 3>Help you don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've seen glimpses of that day.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it's just I don't know so and the problem

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<v Speaker 4>is I can't fully ensure which day it's gonna be. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I will say I think it's on more than it's off,

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<v Speaker 4>but man, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just never know. So I try to give everybody a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of grace because you know some day me

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<v Speaker 1>on days. But as a whole, I like a good

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<v Speaker 1>puzzle on a whole. I feel like I'm good. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's happening this season that they didn't

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily have the advantage of in previous seasons. So like,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously we're used to seeing Tan grahams blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 4>ah that, but there's been there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>puzzles in like memory and mental games this season. I

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<v Speaker 4>think if they hadn't been preparing in the house, they

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<v Speaker 4>should have been by now like onto it. And there's

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<v Speaker 4>been a lot of theme Like there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of forty, there's been a not like even the phrase

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<v Speaker 4>not eliminated tonight, which was what the puzzle was between

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<v Speaker 4>Michelle and Olivia. Like I will say, I'm pretty good

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<v Speaker 4>at honing in on the possibility. Like I forgot who

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<v Speaker 4>walked up as soon as they like pulled one or

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<v Speaker 4>two pieces out of the bag, maybe was Car was like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh it's TJ like just pulling one or two. I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like my brain is pretty good at being like, okay, kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of scanning, like how does this make sense? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm not gonna be like is it Hugh Jackman. No,

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<v Speaker 4>Hugh Jackman has nothing to do with the calen Like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty good at kind of being like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with the number, it's like, okay, it looks like a number,

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<v Speaker 4>well season forty everything else, he's than forty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be thirty eight. So yeah, I will.

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<v Speaker 4>Say I was more surprised to see some of them struggle,

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<v Speaker 4>particularly like with the TJ face.

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<v Speaker 3>That would have been me sorry to this man.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know this man, I'm sorry, but Tory and

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<v Speaker 2>Kyler pull it out and they honestly powerhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Super proud of Kai, super proud of Tory.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Tory woke up like she was never sleep

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<v Speaker 2>but she woke up right a fire was lit up

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 2>unto her after her and Devin won, and that fire

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<v Speaker 2>just it ain't went out yet, Like she's been on

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<v Speaker 2>a roll.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't that always Tory though?

0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.359
<v Speaker 3>But once she got that, it was okay.

0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 2>So she's always had a fire right even from her

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<v Speaker 2>like rookie season, she had a fire. But it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the flames are like at an all time high now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just that girl is just my goodness that's

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<v Speaker 2>coming into her toy is working to get her face

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<v Speaker 2>on that Mount Rushmore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so too.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think her firing those shots at Bananas, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in retaliation or.

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<v Speaker 1>Devin or vindication.

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel kind of maybe gave her an additional

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<v Speaker 4>sense of.

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<v Speaker 1>Confidence or whatever else.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it could be a mix of thing she's just growing,

0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, she's in her poetry bag, like she's beautiful books.

0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Like there could be just a mix of things that happened.

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I think she recently her just her first home, not

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<v Speaker 1>that long ago.

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<v Speaker 4>So I feel like there could be a mix of

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.919
<v Speaker 4>like we're just seeing a lot of things happen. You

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<v Speaker 4>know what else I'm seeing happen that I'm loving. I'm

0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 4>loving seeing this Kara and Tory for alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to call it for alliance.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to get my hopes up and say

0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.879
<v Speaker 4>full friendship, but like it's like a friendly alliance.

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:20.479
<v Speaker 3>I like it.

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful.

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 4>Uh and Michelle and Kara like seeing the unity in

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:26.480
<v Speaker 4>the house like that.

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just fun.

0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:32.119
<v Speaker 4>It's good, like girls representing girls and like I don't know,

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 4>and Derek, you know, like I said, the girls all together,

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<v Speaker 4>like I love.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just beautiful and so great to see.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, even Tory said, what is going on this season?

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of craziness. I'm gonna just put it

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<v Speaker 4>out there now, I know, challenge podcast listeners and fam

0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.080
<v Speaker 4>you didn't get to see all the content, but some

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<v Speaker 4>of these surprising alliances or some of the surprising behaviors

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<v Speaker 4>you've seen you make and conversations, can you not scout?

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<v Speaker 4>Honor Day and I had handle that because we advised

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<v Speaker 4>Kara on opening up and making certain alliances and being

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<v Speaker 4>open and you know how she and Amanda got along.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we directly told both of them to be open

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<v Speaker 4>to that. We saw Josh pull some moves. Now we're

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<v Speaker 4>all of them good. That's not here nor there. But ma'am,

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<v Speaker 4>we had talked well, we had talked to him about

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<v Speaker 4>that too, and they listened.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had talks with Olivia too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we did, we did.

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<v Speaker 3>When I tell you, release the footage.

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<v Speaker 2>Really we had a great conversation with this cast before

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<v Speaker 2>they went up in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So roll the tape. Yeah, it's probably down in the

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel with TJ. That footage.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we have to take a quick break. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>be right back after this. Okay, let's get back to

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<v Speaker 3>the show.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you think about Michelle's birthday party?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I understand that the focus was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be on Michelle, right, it's her birthday, Happy birthday, Michelle.

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't take my eyes off of Carah. Watching Funkara

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 2>is so refreshing. Yeah, it's so refreshing, and it's like, Carl,

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.639
<v Speaker 2>I need you to if you got to bring Carl

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<v Speaker 2>to every season, Carl, Carl to every season because watching

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<v Speaker 2>her be fun and exciting and just like you know,

0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 2>she's living, yeah, you know, and it's just all it's

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<v Speaker 2>so refreshing, so refreshing.

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<v Speaker 4>I love seeing her feel like she can be in

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<v Speaker 4>that space and she can be like yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 4>love I agree. And even in her interviews, she's getting

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<v Speaker 4>kind of funnier so much and like playful, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>love that. Even that awkward hug she and Corey had

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<v Speaker 4>where they're like we're dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Around this alliance, you know, or like this, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I love all of it. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I on her the general consensus was Corey Maria.

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<v Speaker 1>Really because I got my DMS, I got Cora.

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<v Speaker 3>I got Corey Maria.

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys are split.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna have to run a poll because I got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of Cora's and I do think Coorra sounds good,

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 4>but Corey Maria it's a minx.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, we have to talk about that mutual DM.

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<v Speaker 4>We got Okay, podcast listeners, Okay, here for a second, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, last episode, we had Corey on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and we were trying to figure out because they were

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.680
<v Speaker 2>talking sports and she meet her Davin. That ain't that's

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<v Speaker 2>not my lane. And so I wanted to know how

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<v Speaker 2>we can put these challengers, rank them according to actors,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got a very interesting DM. So she says

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<v Speaker 2>Devin is Chris Pratt because no one believed that the

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<v Speaker 2>former loving Devin would win one day and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>a beast. She says, CT is in fact Denzel for sure,

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Jordan is Bradley Cooper. She says Durrell is Tom Hanks,

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<v Speaker 2>and Banana she says Bananas is Mel Gibson. Now, Devin,

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<v Speaker 2>what does your take?

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<v Speaker 4>There is so much shunpack here. I'm not touching that

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 4>last week. Okay, So I appreciate this thoughtful commentary. However,

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot agree because I think she's doing it partially

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<v Speaker 4>on looks, because like, Devin looks more like Chris Pratt.

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<v Speaker 5>Than Dana's top Okay, okay, only in the top part.

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<v Speaker 5>Only in the top part, I feel like because Devin

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<v Speaker 5>being Chris Pratt. Like, sure, Devin was goofy and all

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 5>of that stuff, but I don't know that Devin has

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<v Speaker 5>hit his Chris Pratt eraic quite yet he's won one

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.440
<v Speaker 5>of them, whereas like Chris Pratt, I get it, he's

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<v Speaker 5>not like an Oscar winner. But again, Chris Pratt came

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<v Speaker 5>from being the side character to the side character on

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 5>Parks and Red, all right, and then he went on

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<v Speaker 5>to being a leader in what is it the Marvel

0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 5>Universe Guardians of the Galaxy. So that's that Devin is

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 5>moving there, but he's not like created this kind of

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 5>like empire Jordan has created. To call Jordan Bradley, Bradley

0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 5>hasn't even won an Oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>No shade to Bradley.

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 4>He's done beautiful work, but he has not even won

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<v Speaker 4>an Oscar. And you're gonna compare Jordan to Bradley. That's

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 4>not even like huh huh.

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know Durell and Tom Hanks.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they're both likable, so I just say, yes,

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Really know how that translates.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Hanks was a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a choice. What do you think about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not, absolutely not across the board.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing I agree with is the Denzel and

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.360
<v Speaker 2>uh CT That's the only thing I get.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna stick to Jordan being Chris bad.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>But let us know, you guys think we love to see.

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<v Speaker 4>Your messages and your input. This is your podcast too,

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<v Speaker 4>so we very much appreciate it. All right, now, let's

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<v Speaker 4>get back into uh this deliberation if we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Even really call it, because it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of yeah, they kind of know what they're doing

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 4>from the jumps.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>So we have Kylin and Tory for the wind.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a deep automatically going in because she went

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<v Speaker 4>through the exit mark do not exit, And then we

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<v Speaker 4>have and then we have you know, Michelle and Jenny

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 4>up for nominations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Michelle is chilling because you know, Kylon is one

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 2>of her main Apple scrapples and it's her birthday, so

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>she and they're chilling, but that dad on Tory.

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Tory is like, you know. Then she tried, I'm gonna

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 3>get you for my best friend.

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Like Devin, you been not never across her, because she

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:51.959
<v Speaker 2>is literally holding you down and you've been gone and

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:55.359
<v Speaker 2>she's still holding down the fort for you. But she

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>decides to plant these seeds and try to cause confusion

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<v Speaker 2>amongst the angels, you know, the Johnny's Angels, and Jenny

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 2>was like, girl by here, Jenny Avive didn't take the

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>bait at all. They actually had a kombay y'all moment.

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I love her, she loves me, and we love each other.

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 4>We're taking turns and I was like, look, I'm all

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 4>for love, but I'm not gonna lie.

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, are y'all gonna hugg and get you?

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Have hugged four times?

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 4>You were literally walking out of the arena in a hug,

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 4>like it's like a crab walk at this point. And

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.120
<v Speaker 4>then I was like, are they sweaty and smelly? Because

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 4>then I'd be like, look, I love you, but get

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 4>off me, Like.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 3>You don't need to hug that. I'm like, I don't know.

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 1>It's it's just one, just one of those days.

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 3>Just a thought.

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 4>Now in this elimination, when we see Jenny going into

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 4>BEB and Jenny keeps being like, oh, Kylon's coming for me,

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:43.479
<v Speaker 4>but like, didn't Jenny put Kylon?

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 3>I think Kylon started it?

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:45.879
<v Speaker 1>Did he start it?

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I don't remember.

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 2>But it's been a thing because even Kylon calling Jenny

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Jennifer like what is the right?

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<v Speaker 4>Are y'all bef full government name Jennifer Annabelle Analie Simmons

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<v Speaker 4>like okay, and speaking of Jenny and poor Viv, because

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 4>I feel like while that daily was meant for a Viv,

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 4>that elimination was not.

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 3>She came out a little crappy do she did?

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>But think she goes. I underestimated Jenny's shrink. I'm sorry, ma'am.

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Have you met Jenny, Like, have.

0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 3>You seen you don't even have to meet her. Have

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 3>you seen?

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>What point?

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 4>Were you underestimating Jenny's bring The girl is literally not

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 4>one hundred percent muscle, She's like one thousand percent muscle, Like.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 3>You should have wore overestimated because what Yeah, Jenny is stacked.

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 4>J is stacked, literally crazy lean like a green bean,

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 4>like I don't even Yeah, I mean I wonder if

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Aviv was kind of checked out going into elimination.

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I think in the very first round, because there's a

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>moment when Jenny kind of like starts running and Aviv

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 2>had it looked like her hands in position to grab

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>her arm, but then she just drops them.

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, a Viv, what was that about?

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>So I think in the first one she was kind

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 2>of checked out, but then in the second one she

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>had the strategy of if I can just get there faster, right,

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>if I can just get there faster, then maybe you know,

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 2>I can play. And she did okay, she did okay,

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>but the ball went out of bounds.

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>But you know, oh my girl, I hate to see.

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>A Viv go because she was she was playing such

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>an undercover, such a good game.

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Like or do you think she was just like sliding through.

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I think she did a good job.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 4>And I think coming back after what twenty years, being

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 4>forty on season forty, I think that's just a beautiful story.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>And she made it to the top six. Yeah, that

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is nothing really fun. That is beauty. This is only

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>her second challenge.

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 4>Also, like just beautiful all around.

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>She has a beautiful family.

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 4>She should be really proud of herself and the impact

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 4>that she's had on this game. And I'm incredibly proud

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 4>of her. I think she did a really great job,

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 4>and I you know, I'd love to see her come

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 4>back on the main show and do something freaking phenomenal.

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So Jenny, Jenny walks out a winner on that one,

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>will not walks out.

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 4>They hug the crab walk out, and then ultimately Genny

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 4>says she doesn't want power of you said, girl, you

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 4>better get your power. And then Jenny targets Corey, Derek

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 4>and Jordan because she really didn't have that much of

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 4>an option no options. Yeah, yeah, she really at that point,

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 4>which makes me think, oh, this is for sure getting

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 4>close to final territory, and for sure we're gonna switch

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 4>it up again, because once you start getting to no

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 4>option to vote people as like targets and all that stuff.

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Is when they usually make the switch.

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 4>Right, So, Corey, Derek, and Jordan, who are you giving

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 4>your gold star to and your time out of the week?

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 2>All right, so my goal star, Okay, I have I

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>have nominees. I have nominees. I think I'm gonna give

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 2>it to one person this time.

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. We'll see as I'm.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Time looking what that turkey did to her nominees.

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 3>First season forty Kara, definitely Season.

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Forty Kara for my goal star Season forty Kara. My

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 2>second one is Tory because I just feel like Toy

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>is just doing her thing. And then my third one,

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>oh no, no, sorry, four third one is gonna go

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 2>to Corey. I appreciate the way Corey is playing this game.

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm rooting for him every episode, like, come on, Corey,

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>let's get this done.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 3>And then the fourth one is.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Whoever decided to edit Amanda into that bat seat?

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>That was hilarious, hilarious.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I think that was absolutely hilarious.

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>And so I think, ultimately though, I'm gonna give my

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 2>goal star this week Tokara, I'm.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Gonna get my goals star to No, actually it ain't

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 3>even her. I'm gonna give it a Carl. Look, I

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 3>get my goal star to Carl. How about you?

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 4>So my nominees the girls as a whole, So the Michelle,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Carra and Tory trio that we're seeing this like friendship forming,

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 4>I just I love it. I think it's really great

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 4>and I love to see that joy. I also think

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 4>if they manage to really like a line like in

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 4>this season and in the next sounds like in this

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 4>life in the next, they'd be so powerful, you know

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 4>what I mean, like because they've got it all together collectively.

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 4>So my nomination is going to go to them. It's

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<v Speaker 4>also going to go to TJ, both for that entrance

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<v Speaker 4>and him laughing so hard when people could figure out

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<v Speaker 4>his face. It was freaking hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it.

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<v Speaker 4>Also my last nomination is going to go to Rachel

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<v Speaker 4>just because of all the bruises we see. She was

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<v Speaker 4>really fightened through going through that tunnel and so yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately it's going to go to the trio. They need

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<v Speaker 1>a nickname.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if they have one, but it's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>the Devin, Carl and Michelle, but we need to figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Out a nickname for that. But those three I love

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<v Speaker 1>to see just that blooming it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I love to see that blossoming friendship and they can

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<v Speaker 4>still be competitors with one another but being able to

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<v Speaker 4>like have moments. And Derek is an honorable mention in

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<v Speaker 4>that group, so like, yeah, oh I forgot Corey was

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<v Speaker 4>an honorable mention too. My bad. Okay, now become devon

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<v Speaker 4>what has been you see? Let me just give everyone

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<v Speaker 4>on the cast.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Who gets your time out of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>My time out of the week is gonna go to

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<v Speaker 3>Johnny strictly for that puzzle.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruh.

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<v Speaker 2>He's super seasoned, right, And I just I don't expect

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<v Speaker 2>those type of rookie I feel like that those are

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<v Speaker 2>rookie mistakes to not survey the puzzles like that, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're Johnny bananas. Like I expected so much more so

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<v Speaker 2>for him to stand there and take so much time

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure that out. And literally we saw that

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<v Speaker 2>he still didn't get it while he was standing up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he timed out. I guess because even when they

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<v Speaker 2>were underground, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 1>Who came in. Was it Derek de Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Derek told him, Oh, there were other sides to the pieces,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like there were so you still didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get it, Like, Johnny, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So my time out of the week is gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>to Johnny? What about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my time out of the week, my nominations have

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<v Speaker 4>to go to Rach and to Johnny for the puzzle.

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<v Speaker 4>Reason mainly just the not looking at the other sides thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's crazy is, as someone who's done a puzzle

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<v Speaker 4>with Bananas in a final, he's brilliant, like he know,

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<v Speaker 4>like he's so smart really and so good, I have

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<v Speaker 4>to just wonder if he was kind of like checked

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<v Speaker 4>out in that moment or what.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, again, we know it's been hot.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't comment on that in this episode, but like

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<v Speaker 4>in general, e've Britty's been complaining about how hot it was,

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<v Speaker 4>so I just wonder it just didn't seem like him really.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna have to split it and give it to.

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<v Speaker 4>Rach and Bananas, just because I expect more from both

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 4>of them, being that they're so smart, being that they've

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<v Speaker 4>been in the Challenge.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 1>World for almost longer than some of these folks been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, so yeah, those are gonna be my

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<v Speaker 1>time out.

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<v Speaker 4>But overall, gold star of an episode so much so,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we had to dish on it ourselves because

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<v Speaker 4>like it's just juicy, it was good.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a good episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I like solo episodes when it's just me and you

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 2>talk and I feel like we out having a good

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>old not cocktail because I don't drink no more so juice.

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<v Speaker 3>We can have a juice.

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<v Speaker 4>I love a good kid's juice, those honest juices that

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>are like half water half juice.

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>People crazy, they're good, they're vibe. Guys, don't sleep on it.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 4>If you guys got to hang out with us more

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 4>besides the podcast, Like on social media, where can they

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 4>find you today?

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they can find me at Davon Diane on all

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 2>social platforms Davon Diane Underscore, What about you?

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 4>Likewise, you can find me on Instagram. That's Devin with

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 4>the Why Smo than I. You can find me there

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 4>my website, Devin Simoone. You can find me on Amazon Live.

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 4>Devin Simone a Challenger was just there the other day?

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Or a Challenge podcast band member? So I love to

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<v Speaker 4>shout you guys out, TikTok and Snapchat all the places,

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<v Speaker 4>all the things, and of course thanks joining us for

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 4>another episode of MTV's official Challenge podcast. Tell all your

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 4>fellow Challenge fans to listen and make sure to leave

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 4>us a five star review on Apple and Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best holiday gift that you can get for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Tis the season, okay, and of course join us every

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday to hear brand new episodes of MTV's official Challenge podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Carl, that's good.

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