Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, wake up from door. I ate too much
Speaker 1: your Thanksgiving slumber.
Speaker 2: It's Devin Simone and I am Davon Rogers, good and
Speaker 2: full okay, and this is MTV's official challenge podcast.
Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? Let's get into it.
Speaker 3: And by the way, guys, there's no guest today. It's
Speaker 3: just us cousins.
Speaker 2: Okay, but that just means that Devin and I can
Speaker 2: really really get into this episode.
Speaker 3: Yes, how is it going girl? What we're doing? What
Speaker 3: we're doing?
Speaker 4: I mean, this is the best time of the year
Speaker 4: because it's leftover season and I love the good leftover.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely a fan of a good leftover.
Speaker 1: I sometimes that's better than the original.
Speaker 2: Because the season and has had had time to set
Speaker 2: in there getting what it needs to get.
Speaker 3: Okay, coming like this episode had time.
Speaker 2: To settle in and get what it needed to get
Speaker 2: because I ate, Yes, I ate on this episode.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something that Dad gone. Corey. He
Speaker 3: is surprising me.
Speaker 2: I am happy that tyb is in their separate perspective
Speaker 2: corners Okay, and he is here by himself because Corey
Speaker 2: is focused. I haven't seen Corey this focused, and to
Speaker 2: see him he doesn't have any of his people there, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, he has his woman and his children, his
Speaker 2: family at home, so he's not worried about any women
Speaker 2: inside of the house. Like Corey is there for the wind.
Speaker 2: You know, his child is in a classroom with Kardashian,
Speaker 2: so we know he don't need the money. So he
Speaker 2: is there for the title and I want him to
Speaker 2: get it so bad. Like oh, even down to when
Speaker 2: he said, I'm realizing that Jordan is my biggest competition,
Speaker 2: so if I have to go down in the sand,
Speaker 2: I have to be the one to take him out.
Speaker 3: Excuse me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh doing the thing. Yeah, he definitely is.
Speaker 4: I love seeing what we're and we saw it in
Speaker 4: this episode.
Speaker 1: Like I just love.
Speaker 4: Seeing the growth, Like I love seeing him talk about representation,
Speaker 4: Like just this boy has just.
Speaker 1: Grown so much. Oh, I really am proud of him.
Speaker 4: But as much as I want to see him, when
Speaker 4: I do, man, my heart is going to my boy Derek.
Speaker 1: Oh, I wanted to pull it out so much.
Speaker 4: And then there's Kylin, Like obviously I love calling too,
Speaker 4: but Derek is just I like, I just adore him
Speaker 4: and like, you know, I've known him a long time.
Speaker 1: I don't know's there's a lot of good people.
Speaker 4: That's part of what's making this season so great, is
Speaker 4: there a lot of good people, a lot of people.
Speaker 1: To root for. I didn't realize. And I know, I know, to.
Speaker 4: Me, y'all listener are gonna be like Devin huh because
Speaker 4: we do this podcast. But I didn't because they're so
Speaker 4: adept at how they play and communicate in this game.
Speaker 1: I just didn't.
Speaker 4: Realize that Kyland and that Michelle had never made it
Speaker 4: to a final.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, because they're so good. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you would think I was a given, Like they're yeah there.
Speaker 4: They're like in the finals in my mind already so
Speaker 4: like and so hearing them say that was like, oh man,
Speaker 4: like dang wow and then and then I mean, they're
Speaker 4: not gonna laugh. Part of me it was also like
Speaker 4: two seasons, two finals.
Speaker 1: But you know, my look, I'm.
Speaker 4: Human, all right, I know, I'm only human. Blame it
Speaker 4: on the turkey talking.
Speaker 2: She said, I feel bad for y'all, but as for
Speaker 2: me and my house, we know what the final look like.
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh, wow, okay, yeah, I guess
Speaker 4: because they really are, which is a compliment still to
Speaker 4: them because they are just such skilled players and so
Speaker 4: good at at all that, honestly, and just in my
Speaker 4: mind is like, of course they've been to finals and
Speaker 4: they heck, I still think Michelle mastermind that whole final,
Speaker 4: even though she wouldn't know it a couple of like
Speaker 4: like she was just running things so well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a really good season. A lot going on.
Speaker 1: Let's get into this daily first.
Speaker 4: Okay, when it was silent and everybody was staying there
Speaker 4: looking at that pile of LEAs, what was going through
Speaker 4: your mind?
Speaker 3: I was like, where's TJ?
Speaker 2: Because we all we know TJ is going to have
Speaker 2: some type of nomadic entrance, right, but looking at it,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking he's gonna come in on.
Speaker 1: What the thing called an ATV?
Speaker 3: Is that what's called He.
Speaker 2: Was gonna come in on one of them, some type
Speaker 2: of dirt bike, some something.
Speaker 3: I just thought TJ was gonna pop up like that.
Speaker 2: When that man came up out of there like a
Speaker 2: gopher is going.
Speaker 4: On, Oh, that's gonna be his nickname from now on.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay, only those only us here.
Speaker 4: At the Official Challenge Podcast, and all you listeners are
Speaker 4: Challenge tracass fam. You're gonna know when we say gopher,
Speaker 4: you're gonna know who we're talking about, and you're gonna
Speaker 4: tell you'll know they're a real challenge.
Speaker 1: Stand that's freaking hilarious. I would never let.
Speaker 2: Gophers TJ going, and I just I did not. I
Speaker 2: was not expecting that. But it was really cool to see.
Speaker 2: Now what was not cool for me? Devin?
Speaker 3: I don't think I could have done this one?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Okay, So first of all, I didn't realize I was.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna claim that over my life. I'm not claustrophobic,
Speaker 2: but I got some tendency ish.
Speaker 1: You got some folks, is some folks, right.
Speaker 2: And so my very first season of the Challenge, they
Speaker 2: put me in a coffin and bury me in a cemetery.
Speaker 1: Right, I've kind of wanted you to do that? Is
Speaker 1: that weird, ma'am?
Speaker 3: Why is that a want in your life?
Speaker 4: No? I mean, and a competition setting, not in like
Speaker 4: a let's just go to a graveyard setting.
Speaker 3: Tell your don't put me down here real quick.
Speaker 1: No, not like in a competitive setting.
Speaker 2: But no, So going in there in that tiny hole,
Speaker 2: like the space looked so small, right, even TJ looked
Speaker 2: like he was stuck. The only thing I could really
Speaker 2: think about was and I know he's not there, but
Speaker 2: how would CT have done trying to get down.
Speaker 3: Up in there and maneuver through that?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like it just it looks terrifying.
Speaker 2: So to go into that closed space and then in
Speaker 2: the dark, and then you tell me it's rats and
Speaker 2: bats that would strike thirty six thousand immediately.
Speaker 3: Like what you make rats and bats down here? And
Speaker 3: I'm in the dark.
Speaker 2: I can't see what's going on, Johnny talking about you
Speaker 2: can't see in front of your face. The whole setup,
Speaker 2: said Davon, be prepared to go home. The whole setup
Speaker 2: told me to get ready to go home.
Speaker 1: Wait, what would be scarier?
Speaker 4: So that or like just being in like a coffin
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, just surrounded by bugs, you know, like
Speaker 4: when they pour bugs over you and you're like covered
Speaker 4: in bugs.
Speaker 2: Well, I think this one is easier because you can
Speaker 2: move right, you can move so if I you know,
Speaker 2: and Tori said.
Speaker 3: She got slapped in the face by bad Yes, if
Speaker 3: one got slapped.
Speaker 2: In the face, Devin, I got slapped in the face
Speaker 2: by bat, I would have went home. They wouldn't have
Speaker 2: had to put me in elimination, I'd have been like,
Speaker 2: it's been real, y'all, I'm out.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I too realized. I don't like
Speaker 4: tight spaces. I also don't like feeling like I can't
Speaker 4: easily get home. Yeah, anything that means like if I'm
Speaker 4: at a slumber party at your house is back when
Speaker 4: as a kid, I need to know the exits and
Speaker 4: then I can go home at any point. I don't
Speaker 4: like feeling like I can't, that there's no turning back.
Speaker 4: But I also feel like I'm pretty decent at mind
Speaker 4: over matter, Like I'm pretty Maybe that was like pain pain,
Speaker 4: like I don't want to get hit, but with like this.
Speaker 1: Thing is scaring me, but kind of fight or flight.
Speaker 4: I fight so like I can keep my brain calm
Speaker 4: long enough to get out of the thing.
Speaker 1: And then be like, oh my gosh, what was I
Speaker 1: just doing.
Speaker 4: So yeah, in this situation, I also just feel like
Speaker 4: propstory not only for winning my b for being first,
Speaker 4: because two, there's always a disadvantage going first, and in
Speaker 4: this particular challenge, the two disadvantages were one like, granted,
Speaker 4: they can't really talk to each other on this one
Speaker 4: as much until they all kind of make it to
Speaker 4: that little holding cell thing at the end. But still
Speaker 4: you just really don't know what to expect, you know,
Speaker 4: like you don't know the standard, you don't know anything.
Speaker 1: It's always you never want to go first.
Speaker 4: And then two, the bats are still sleeping, so I'm
Speaker 4: sure she got hit in the face by a back because.
Speaker 1: She was one of the first ones to go down there.
Speaker 4: Where if you managed to be the last one, the
Speaker 4: bats are already up and like moving and doing stuff,
Speaker 4: so they know you're coming.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll see you in my notes because I said,
Speaker 2: usually going far this is a disadvantage, right, yeah, because
Speaker 2: you're you're the guinea pig. But for this particular daily,
Speaker 2: I felt like going first was a good thing because
Speaker 2: the longer it went, the darker it got. So imagine
Speaker 2: going through that tunnel at not like Rachel couldn't have
Speaker 2: been me.
Speaker 4: See you're in my notes too, because yep, I did
Speaker 4: comment about the Rachel going in at night.
Speaker 1: Now that part couldn't have been me. Mm mmmmmm. I
Speaker 1: don't know that I would have liked that, but mid
Speaker 1: day would have been fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but first, no, because the bats are sleeping
Speaker 4: and it's like it's like going through did you guys
Speaker 4: ever play like outdoors when you would play tag or
Speaker 4: hide and go seek and some tidying in the bushes,
Speaker 4: or you're like going through kind.
Speaker 1: Of a woody backyard.
Speaker 4: If you're the first person going through, there's all sorts
Speaker 4: of like spider webs and stuff that you're walking through.
Speaker 4: But if you're like the fifth person to go, everybody
Speaker 4: else got spiders in their face. So you're cool, Like
Speaker 4: you're good because it's cleared out now and so I feel.
Speaker 3: Like clear it out. Thank you for creating a path
Speaker 3: for me exactly.
Speaker 4: Now, speaking of paths, I don't know what's up with
Speaker 4: our senior squad this episode. Two of some of the
Speaker 4: most capable people on the Challenge and Challenge history. I'd say,
Speaker 4: I'm talking about bananas and rage. Yeah, Nana's crushed it
Speaker 4: with like the speed, and both of them, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you caught this day. Both of them said
Speaker 4: in their interviews like, oh, remember to turn a puzzle over,
Speaker 4: you know, like or whatever, And I'm thinking, I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: you just now got that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, And it's so funny how they set it up.
Speaker 3: Whoever created this particular daily Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: A funny how they set it up.
Speaker 2: It was only a double four. I think it was
Speaker 2: one of the eyes and the mouth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like three pieces is what darre said.
Speaker 4: Had were double sided. But she is shady. That's like,
Speaker 4: that's a level of head Yeah, because you can't even
Speaker 4: say they didn't turn and looked, because maybe they turned
Speaker 4: and looked at another one piece that wasn't double sided.
Speaker 1: That is a level of shady.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to them. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4: All right, we have to take a quick break, but
Speaker 4: we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to the show.
Speaker 4: I have another question we've been seeing on this season,
Speaker 4: and i'd love you guys, Sliding our DM. We want
Speaker 4: to hear your feedback and thoughts on all of this,
Speaker 4: So Sliding our dms hit us up.
Speaker 1: But this is now. We've talked about this a couple
Speaker 1: times before.
Speaker 4: Rachel's strategy of putting the pieces on the table next
Speaker 4: to her like everyone else did plug and play right,
Speaker 4: kind of like those little kids blocks thing, Like they
Speaker 4: plugged it in and then if it didn't fit, they'd
Speaker 4: pull one out.
Speaker 1: And it seemed to work a little bit better for them.
Speaker 4: Outside of bananas, but her shifting them around like a
Speaker 4: car dealer in Vegas on the table just seemed to put.
Speaker 1: Her behind it. And we saw that what with Durell.
Speaker 4: Earlier this season, Like we've seen this a few times
Speaker 4: where people try to like free strategize. Was it Olivia
Speaker 4: or someone No, Michelle I think is the one who
Speaker 4: put him on the ground, or was it Olivia.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Anyway, we've seen that.
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts about people like not just going
Speaker 4: for it and trying to like strategize it before putting
Speaker 4: a puzzle piece in.
Speaker 2: I think it's the person, because like you were saying
Speaker 2: about the elimination between Olivia and Michelle, right, So Olivia
Speaker 2: put those pieces down there, she did the lengths and
Speaker 2: how they would go because that ultimately was a puzzle
Speaker 2: as well. So she put the pieces down there and
Speaker 2: she figured it out. I think it just depends on
Speaker 2: the person and how they can maneuver through it. I
Speaker 2: think Rachel was frazzled. Yeah, I think Rachel was extremely frazzle.
Speaker 2: She was in one of the last heats. It was
Speaker 2: dark time, like you know she I think she was
Speaker 2: just frazzled. But for Olivia it worked for me. Sometimes
Speaker 2: that works and sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I have to
Speaker 2: actually put it on the board to make it make sight.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes I can see something on the ground
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, come on, let's just go ahead
Speaker 2: and put this up here. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: kind of like what Michelle did. The pieces were up there,
Speaker 2: stepped back, she looked at it as she started putting together.
Speaker 2: I think it was like the sentence or not elimination
Speaker 2: or not eliminated or something like.
Speaker 1: That, and it clicked for her.
Speaker 3: So I think it's just the perspective of the person.
Speaker 3: Which one works for you.
Speaker 1: You know, that's really a question.
Speaker 4: I think I would just kind of go for it
Speaker 4: because what we saw for some of them, like I
Speaker 4: forgot who but one person when they had the eye.
Speaker 1: And it's so messed up. They did that to DJ's eye.
Speaker 4: When they had the eyewonky A part of it didn't
Speaker 4: fit because when they put the piece in that side,
Speaker 4: it didn't go all the way I think maybe it
Speaker 4: was cars.
Speaker 1: It didn't go all the way down. So that actually
Speaker 1: kind of helped.
Speaker 4: I mean, she's still called for check, but I feel
Speaker 4: like that kind of helped alert her that like, all right,
Speaker 4: that probably isn't it. So I wondered if with Rachel,
Speaker 4: if her putting some pieces in would have at least
Speaker 4: helped kind of from a size standpoint of like hmm, okay,
Speaker 4: maybe not this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely agree with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just my thought for I feel like if
Speaker 4: it weren't timed, then sure, like do your work ahead
Speaker 4: of time around, but when it's time, you.
Speaker 1: Better shove that thing in there and figure it out,
Speaker 1: you know, right.
Speaker 3: Which is why I didn't understand Cory.
Speaker 2: This is my only bone to pick with you, Corey,
Speaker 2: because what you down there, puzzle king baby, that was
Speaker 2: like three seconds on your time that you was wasting
Speaker 2: while you was down there screaming, and he kind of
Speaker 2: came up and did it. I did find humor in
Speaker 2: the fact that he thought it was him. I was
Speaker 2: maybe you don't look like this.
Speaker 4: That was hilarious until he got to the lips and
Speaker 4: then he was like, may by the lips, note, can
Speaker 4: we get a split screen please? I know this is
Speaker 4: an a visual podcast, but like, at what point does
Speaker 4: TJ and Corey look alike?
Speaker 1: And no? Never, literally point not never do they look like?
Speaker 4: Also, TJ laughing, like holding his side so good behind
Speaker 4: him when Bananas were struggling, was very funny.
Speaker 3: So good. Their pants are back and forth, like.
Speaker 2: I always appreciate their banter in all seasons, you know,
Speaker 2: because they keeping on Banana since before Banana's knew bananas right.
Speaker 1: Then he had the internet. Yeah alone, right, and.
Speaker 2: So you know he kind of watched him grow up.
Speaker 2: And so I really enjoy watching their banter. What I
Speaker 2: did not enjoy and what I think is it may
Speaker 2: be a little controversial. Uh, the take on of ev
Speaker 2: What do you mean when she breaks the barrier, lets
Speaker 2: she goes, she goes through this other direction right of which, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's really sit back and talk about this.
Speaker 3: As for me, I probably.
Speaker 2: Would have gotten DQ two AVIV because if it's dark
Speaker 2: and this is the only exit I see, I'm going
Speaker 2: to assume that the challenge people.
Speaker 3: But this is the only one she saw.
Speaker 4: No, she said, winning doubt go backwards, So that means
Speaker 4: it wasn't the only exit she had. Another way, Oh,
Speaker 4: I thought that was the only one she saw.
Speaker 1: No, there were sticks like it. She needed to go back.
Speaker 4: It's like she hit a dead end in the tunnel basically,
Speaker 4: but instead of turning around, she saw the like sticks. Now,
Speaker 4: I will say this potentially, when they showed what the
Speaker 4: sticks looked like, it looked like they were too It
Speaker 4: looked like it was the flintstones, like two big right,
Speaker 4: like they weren't really logs, but they also were bigger
Speaker 4: than like normal sticks, like crossed out in the middle.
Speaker 1: Because of her size.
Speaker 4: Is there a chance that she thought that was potentially
Speaker 4: just a general obstacle and not like like I thought,
Speaker 4: that's not like an actual barrier.
Speaker 1: We that questions that need to be answered, Because.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I thought. I would have thought that
Speaker 2: they put the sticks there to try to mess with me. Okay, cool,
Speaker 2: let me get this out the way and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: call crawl through and see what happens. But when she
Speaker 2: got out that thing and baby was lost in the wind,
Speaker 2: she was like me.
Speaker 4: At the thrift store. She was like me at Super Target.
Speaker 4: Just didn't know where to go. Which way was upper down,
Speaker 4: he's right in the aisle, was trying to figure out
Speaker 4: where is the cereal?
Speaker 1: I don't understand.
Speaker 3: Girl was running for her life.
Speaker 1: Oh I felt so bad for her. I did.
Speaker 4: I felt so bad for her, especially because this one
Speaker 4: really was kind of.
Speaker 1: Hers to win. It really was hers to win.
Speaker 3: Because she could have slid right through that tunnel.
Speaker 1: She could have. She really could.
Speaker 2: Now, how are you with slider puzzles? Because the slider
Speaker 2: would have took me out?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but for whatever reason, like, let's say that it's
Speaker 2: it's it starts a certain way, right, and we can
Speaker 2: see what it is. Like we saw that it was
Speaker 2: a forty it was, you know, we saw that some reason.
Speaker 2: When I get the shuffling, okay, it might turn into
Speaker 2: a twenty because I don't know what I do wrong,
Speaker 2: but I just shuffle the thing and make it worse
Speaker 2: than when they first prepared it for me.
Speaker 1: How are you, I'd say pretty good.
Speaker 4: Look, I will say this about my brain, especially as
Speaker 4: I am the age I am now. When my brain
Speaker 4: is on, be afraid, come on, man, But when my
Speaker 4: brain is off.
Speaker 3: Help you don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen glimpses of that day.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just I don't know so and the problem
Speaker 4: is I can't fully ensure which day it's gonna be. Now,
Speaker 4: I will say I think it's on more than it's off,
Speaker 4: but man, you.
Speaker 1: Just never know. So I try to give everybody a
Speaker 1: little bit of grace because you know some day me
Speaker 1: on days. But as a whole, I like a good
Speaker 1: puzzle on a whole. I feel like I'm good. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I feel like that's happening this season that they didn't
Speaker 4: necessarily have the advantage of in previous seasons. So like,
Speaker 4: obviously we're used to seeing Tan grahams blah blah blah
Speaker 4: ah that, but there's been there's been a lot of
Speaker 4: puzzles in like memory and mental games this season. I
Speaker 4: think if they hadn't been preparing in the house, they
Speaker 4: should have been by now like onto it. And there's
Speaker 4: been a lot of theme Like there's been a lot
Speaker 4: of forty, there's been a not like even the phrase
Speaker 4: not eliminated tonight, which was what the puzzle was between
Speaker 4: Michelle and Olivia. Like I will say, I'm pretty good
Speaker 4: at honing in on the possibility. Like I forgot who
Speaker 4: walked up as soon as they like pulled one or
Speaker 4: two pieces out of the bag, maybe was Car was like,
Speaker 4: oh it's TJ like just pulling one or two. I
Speaker 4: feel like my brain is pretty good at being like, okay, kind.
Speaker 1: Of scanning, like how does this make sense? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like I'm not gonna be like is it Hugh Jackman. No,
Speaker 4: Hugh Jackman has nothing to do with the calen Like
Speaker 4: I'm pretty good at kind of being like, you know,
Speaker 4: with the number, it's like, okay, it looks like a number,
Speaker 4: well season forty everything else, he's than forty.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be thirty eight. So yeah, I will.
Speaker 4: Say I was more surprised to see some of them struggle,
Speaker 4: particularly like with the TJ face.
Speaker 3: That would have been me sorry to this man.
Speaker 2: I don't know this man, I'm sorry, but Tory and
Speaker 2: Kyler pull it out and they honestly powerhouse.
Speaker 3: Super proud of Kai, super proud of Tory.
Speaker 2: You know, Tory woke up like she was never sleep
Speaker 2: but she woke up right a fire was lit up
Speaker 2: unto her after her and Devin won, and that fire
Speaker 2: just it ain't went out yet, Like she's been on
Speaker 2: a roll.
Speaker 1: But isn't that always Tory though?
Speaker 3: But once she got that, it was okay.
Speaker 2: So she's always had a fire right even from her
Speaker 2: like rookie season, she had a fire. But it's like
Speaker 2: the flames are like at an all time high now,
Speaker 2: Like it's just that girl is just my goodness that's
Speaker 2: coming into her toy is working to get her face
Speaker 2: on that Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 4: And I think her firing those shots at Bananas, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, in retaliation or.
Speaker 1: Devin or vindication.
Speaker 4: I do feel kind of maybe gave her an additional
Speaker 4: sense of.
Speaker 1: Confidence or whatever else.
Speaker 4: Like it could be a mix of thing she's just growing,
Speaker 4: you know, she's in her poetry bag, like she's beautiful books.
Speaker 1: Like there could be just a mix of things that happened.
Speaker 1: I think she recently her just her first home, not
Speaker 1: that long ago.
Speaker 4: So I feel like there could be a mix of
Speaker 4: like we're just seeing a lot of things happen. You
Speaker 4: know what else I'm seeing happen that I'm loving. I'm
Speaker 4: loving seeing this Kara and Tory for alliance.
Speaker 1: I want to call it for alliance.
Speaker 4: I don't want to get my hopes up and say
Speaker 4: full friendship, but like it's like a friendly alliance.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
Speaker 4: Uh and Michelle and Kara like seeing the unity in
Speaker 4: the house like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just fun.
Speaker 4: It's good, like girls representing girls and like I don't know,
Speaker 4: and Derek, you know, like I said, the girls all together,
Speaker 4: like I love.
Speaker 1: It's just beautiful and so great to see.
Speaker 4: Also, even Tory said, what is going on this season?
Speaker 4: There's a lot of craziness. I'm gonna just put it
Speaker 4: out there now, I know, challenge podcast listeners and fam
Speaker 4: you didn't get to see all the content, but some
Speaker 4: of these surprising alliances or some of the surprising behaviors
Speaker 4: you've seen you make and conversations, can you not scout?
Speaker 4: Honor Day and I had handle that because we advised
Speaker 4: Kara on opening up and making certain alliances and being
Speaker 4: open and you know how she and Amanda got along.
Speaker 4: Like we directly told both of them to be open
Speaker 4: to that. We saw Josh pull some moves. Now we're
Speaker 4: all of them good. That's not here nor there. But ma'am,
Speaker 4: we had talked well, we had talked to him about
Speaker 4: that too, and they listened.
Speaker 3: And we had talks with Olivia too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did, we did.
Speaker 3: When I tell you, release the footage.
Speaker 2: Really we had a great conversation with this cast before
Speaker 2: they went up in there.
Speaker 1: So roll the tape. Yeah, it's probably down in the
Speaker 1: tunnel with TJ. That footage.
Speaker 3: All right, we have to take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 3: be right back after this. Okay, let's get back to
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: What did you think about Michelle's birthday party?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I understand that the focus was supposed to
Speaker 2: be on Michelle, right, it's her birthday, Happy birthday, Michelle.
Speaker 2: I couldn't take my eyes off of Carah. Watching Funkara
Speaker 2: is so refreshing. Yeah, it's so refreshing, and it's like, Carl,
Speaker 2: I need you to if you got to bring Carl
Speaker 2: to every season, Carl, Carl to every season because watching
Speaker 2: her be fun and exciting and just like you know,
Speaker 2: she's living, yeah, you know, and it's just all it's
Speaker 2: so refreshing, so refreshing.
Speaker 4: I love seeing her feel like she can be in
Speaker 4: that space and she can be like yeah, like I
Speaker 4: love I agree. And even in her interviews, she's getting
Speaker 4: kind of funnier so much and like playful, Like I
Speaker 4: love that. Even that awkward hug she and Corey had
Speaker 4: where they're like we're dancing.
Speaker 1: Around this alliance, you know, or like this, it was
Speaker 1: so good. I love all of it. It's so good.
Speaker 3: I on her the general consensus was Corey Maria.
Speaker 1: Really because I got my DMS, I got Cora.
Speaker 3: I got Corey Maria.
Speaker 1: So you guys are split.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to run a poll because I got
Speaker 4: a lot of Cora's and I do think Coorra sounds good,
Speaker 4: but Corey Maria it's a minx.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, we have to talk about that mutual DM.
Speaker 4: We got Okay, podcast listeners, Okay, here for a second, Okay,
Speaker 4: we've got to talk about this.
Speaker 2: So yes, last episode, we had Corey on the podcast
Speaker 2: and we were trying to figure out because they were
Speaker 2: talking sports and she meet her Davin. That ain't that's
Speaker 2: not my lane. And so I wanted to know how
Speaker 2: we can put these challengers, rank them according to actors,
Speaker 2: and I got a very interesting DM. So she says
Speaker 2: Devin is Chris Pratt because no one believed that the
Speaker 2: former loving Devin would win one day and now he's
Speaker 2: a beast. She says, CT is in fact Denzel for sure,
Speaker 2: Jordan is Bradley Cooper. She says Durrell is Tom Hanks,
Speaker 2: and Banana she says Bananas is Mel Gibson. Now, Devin,
Speaker 2: what does your take?
Speaker 4: There is so much shunpack here. I'm not touching that
Speaker 4: last week. Okay, So I appreciate this thoughtful commentary. However,
Speaker 4: I cannot agree because I think she's doing it partially
Speaker 4: on looks, because like, Devin looks more like Chris Pratt.
Speaker 5: Than Dana's top Okay, okay, only in the top part.
Speaker 5: Only in the top part, I feel like because Devin
Speaker 5: being Chris Pratt. Like, sure, Devin was goofy and all
Speaker 5: of that stuff, but I don't know that Devin has
Speaker 5: hit his Chris Pratt eraic quite yet he's won one
Speaker 5: of them, whereas like Chris Pratt, I get it, he's
Speaker 5: not like an Oscar winner. But again, Chris Pratt came
Speaker 5: from being the side character to the side character on
Speaker 5: Parks and Red, all right, and then he went on
Speaker 5: to being a leader in what is it the Marvel
Speaker 5: Universe Guardians of the Galaxy. So that's that Devin is
Speaker 5: moving there, but he's not like created this kind of
Speaker 5: like empire Jordan has created. To call Jordan Bradley, Bradley
Speaker 5: hasn't even won an Oscar.
Speaker 1: No shade to Bradley.
Speaker 4: He's done beautiful work, but he has not even won
Speaker 4: an Oscar. And you're gonna compare Jordan to Bradley. That's
Speaker 4: not even like huh huh.
Speaker 1: And I don't know Durell and Tom Hanks.
Speaker 4: I mean they're both likable, so I just say, yes,
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Really know how that translates.
Speaker 3: Tom Hanks was a choice.
Speaker 1: It was a choice. What do you think about it?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, absolutely not across the board.
Speaker 2: The only thing I agree with is the Denzel and
Speaker 2: uh CT That's the only thing I get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna stick to Jordan being Chris bad.
Speaker 1: But let us know, you guys think we love to see.
Speaker 4: Your messages and your input. This is your podcast too,
Speaker 4: so we very much appreciate it. All right, now, let's
Speaker 4: get back into uh this deliberation if we can.
Speaker 1: Even really call it, because it's.
Speaker 4: Kind of yeah, they kind of know what they're doing
Speaker 4: from the jumps.
Speaker 1: So we have Kylin and Tory for the wind.
Speaker 4: We have a deep automatically going in because she went
Speaker 4: through the exit mark do not exit, And then we
Speaker 4: have and then we have you know, Michelle and Jenny
Speaker 4: up for nominations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michelle is chilling because you know, Kylon is one
Speaker 2: of her main Apple scrapples and it's her birthday, so
Speaker 2: she and they're chilling, but that dad on Tory.
Speaker 3: Tory is like, you know. Then she tried, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get you for my best friend.
Speaker 2: Like Devin, you been not never across her, because she
Speaker 2: is literally holding you down and you've been gone and
Speaker 2: she's still holding down the fort for you. But she
Speaker 2: decides to plant these seeds and try to cause confusion
Speaker 2: amongst the angels, you know, the Johnny's Angels, and Jenny
Speaker 2: was like, girl by here, Jenny Avive didn't take the
Speaker 2: bait at all. They actually had a kombay y'all moment.
Speaker 2: I love her, she loves me, and we love each other.
Speaker 4: We're taking turns and I was like, look, I'm all
Speaker 4: for love, but I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I was like, are y'all gonna hugg and get you?
Speaker 1: Have hugged four times?
Speaker 4: You were literally walking out of the arena in a hug,
Speaker 4: like it's like a crab walk at this point. And
Speaker 4: then I was like, are they sweaty and smelly? Because
Speaker 4: then I'd be like, look, I love you, but get
Speaker 4: off me, Like.
Speaker 3: You don't need to hug that. I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it's just one, just one of those days.
Speaker 3: Just a thought.
Speaker 4: Now in this elimination, when we see Jenny going into
Speaker 4: BEB and Jenny keeps being like, oh, Kylon's coming for me,
Speaker 4: but like, didn't Jenny put Kylon?
Speaker 3: I think Kylon started it?
Speaker 1: Did he start it?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't remember.
Speaker 2: But it's been a thing because even Kylon calling Jenny
Speaker 2: Jennifer like what is the right?
Speaker 4: Are y'all bef full government name Jennifer Annabelle Analie Simmons
Speaker 4: like okay, and speaking of Jenny and poor Viv, because
Speaker 4: I feel like while that daily was meant for a Viv,
Speaker 4: that elimination was not.
Speaker 3: She came out a little crappy do she did?
Speaker 1: But think she goes. I underestimated Jenny's shrink. I'm sorry, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Have you met Jenny, Like, have.
Speaker 3: You seen you don't even have to meet her. Have
Speaker 3: you seen?
Speaker 1: What point?
Speaker 4: Were you underestimating Jenny's bring The girl is literally not
Speaker 4: one hundred percent muscle, She's like one thousand percent muscle, Like.
Speaker 3: You should have wore overestimated because what Yeah, Jenny is stacked.
Speaker 4: J is stacked, literally crazy lean like a green bean,
Speaker 4: like I don't even Yeah, I mean I wonder if
Speaker 4: Aviv was kind of checked out going into elimination.
Speaker 2: I think in the very first round, because there's a
Speaker 2: moment when Jenny kind of like starts running and Aviv
Speaker 2: had it looked like her hands in position to grab
Speaker 2: her arm, but then she just drops them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, a Viv, what was that about?
Speaker 2: So I think in the first one she was kind
Speaker 2: of checked out, but then in the second one she
Speaker 2: had the strategy of if I can just get there faster, right,
Speaker 2: if I can just get there faster, then maybe you know,
Speaker 2: I can play. And she did okay, she did okay,
Speaker 2: but the ball went out of bounds.
Speaker 3: But you know, oh my girl, I hate to see.
Speaker 2: A Viv go because she was she was playing such
Speaker 2: an undercover, such a good game.
Speaker 3: Like or do you think she was just like sliding through.
Speaker 1: I think she did a good job.
Speaker 4: And I think coming back after what twenty years, being
Speaker 4: forty on season forty, I think that's just a beautiful story.
Speaker 1: And she made it to the top six. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is nothing really fun. That is beauty. This is only
Speaker 1: her second challenge.
Speaker 4: Also, like just beautiful all around.
Speaker 1: She has a beautiful family.
Speaker 4: She should be really proud of herself and the impact
Speaker 4: that she's had on this game. And I'm incredibly proud
Speaker 4: of her. I think she did a really great job,
Speaker 4: and I you know, I'd love to see her come
Speaker 4: back on the main show and do something freaking phenomenal.
Speaker 1: So Jenny, Jenny walks out a winner on that one,
Speaker 1: will not walks out.
Speaker 4: They hug the crab walk out, and then ultimately Genny
Speaker 4: says she doesn't want power of you said, girl, you
Speaker 4: better get your power. And then Jenny targets Corey, Derek
Speaker 4: and Jordan because she really didn't have that much of
Speaker 4: an option no options. Yeah, yeah, she really at that point,
Speaker 4: which makes me think, oh, this is for sure getting
Speaker 4: close to final territory, and for sure we're gonna switch
Speaker 4: it up again, because once you start getting to no
Speaker 4: option to vote people as like targets and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Is when they usually make the switch.
Speaker 4: Right, So, Corey, Derek, and Jordan, who are you giving
Speaker 4: your gold star to and your time out of the week?
Speaker 2: All right, so my goal star, Okay, I have I
Speaker 2: have nominees. I have nominees. I think I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: it to one person this time.
Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll see as I'm.
Speaker 1: Time looking what that turkey did to her nominees.
Speaker 3: First season forty Kara, definitely Season.
Speaker 2: Forty Kara for my goal star Season forty Kara. My
Speaker 2: second one is Tory because I just feel like Toy
Speaker 2: is just doing her thing. And then my third one,
Speaker 2: oh no, no, sorry, four third one is gonna go
Speaker 2: to Corey. I appreciate the way Corey is playing this game.
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him every episode, like, come on, Corey,
Speaker 2: let's get this done.
Speaker 3: And then the fourth one is.
Speaker 2: Whoever decided to edit Amanda into that bat seat?
Speaker 1: That was hilarious, hilarious.
Speaker 3: I think that was absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2: And so I think, ultimately though, I'm gonna give my
Speaker 2: goal star this week Tokara, I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna get my goals star to No, actually it ain't
Speaker 3: even her. I'm gonna give it a Carl. Look, I
Speaker 3: get my goal star to Carl. How about you?
Speaker 4: So my nominees the girls as a whole, So the Michelle,
Speaker 4: Carra and Tory trio that we're seeing this like friendship forming,
Speaker 4: I just I love it. I think it's really great
Speaker 4: and I love to see that joy. I also think
Speaker 4: if they manage to really like a line like in
Speaker 4: this season and in the next sounds like in this
Speaker 4: life in the next, they'd be so powerful, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like because they've got it all together collectively.
Speaker 4: So my nomination is going to go to them. It's
Speaker 4: also going to go to TJ, both for that entrance
Speaker 4: and him laughing so hard when people could figure out
Speaker 4: his face. It was freaking hilarious.
Speaker 1: And then it.
Speaker 4: Also my last nomination is going to go to Rachel
Speaker 4: just because of all the bruises we see. She was
Speaker 4: really fightened through going through that tunnel and so yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Ultimately it's going to go to the trio. They need
Speaker 1: a nickname.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they have one, but it's like it's
Speaker 4: the Devin, Carl and Michelle, but we need to figure.
Speaker 1: Out a nickname for that. But those three I love
Speaker 1: to see just that blooming it is.
Speaker 4: I love to see that blossoming friendship and they can
Speaker 4: still be competitors with one another but being able to
Speaker 4: like have moments. And Derek is an honorable mention in
Speaker 4: that group, so like, yeah, oh I forgot Corey was
Speaker 4: an honorable mention too. My bad. Okay, now become devon
Speaker 4: what has been you see? Let me just give everyone
Speaker 4: on the cast.
Speaker 3: There we go, there we go.
Speaker 1: Who gets your time out of the week.
Speaker 3: My time out of the week is gonna go to
Speaker 3: Johnny strictly for that puzzle.
Speaker 1: Bruh.
Speaker 2: He's super seasoned, right, And I just I don't expect
Speaker 2: those type of rookie I feel like that those are
Speaker 2: rookie mistakes to not survey the puzzles like that, like
Speaker 2: you're Johnny bananas. Like I expected so much more so
Speaker 2: for him to stand there and take so much time
Speaker 2: trying to figure that out. And literally we saw that
Speaker 2: he still didn't get it while he was standing up there,
Speaker 2: and he timed out. I guess because even when they
Speaker 2: were underground, I forgot.
Speaker 1: Who came in. Was it Derek de Yeah?
Speaker 2: Derek told him, Oh, there were other sides to the pieces,
Speaker 2: and he was like there were so you still didn't
Speaker 2: get it, Like, Johnny, what are we doing?
Speaker 3: So my time out of the week is gonna go
Speaker 3: to Johnny? What about you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, my time out of the week, my nominations have
Speaker 4: to go to Rach and to Johnny for the puzzle.
Speaker 4: Reason mainly just the not looking at the other sides thing.
Speaker 4: And what's crazy is, as someone who's done a puzzle
Speaker 4: with Bananas in a final, he's brilliant, like he know,
Speaker 4: like he's so smart really and so good, I have
Speaker 4: to just wonder if he was kind of like checked
Speaker 4: out in that moment or what.
Speaker 1: Also, again, we know it's been hot.
Speaker 4: They didn't comment on that in this episode, but like
Speaker 4: in general, e've Britty's been complaining about how hot it was,
Speaker 4: so I just wonder it just didn't seem like him really.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to split it and give it to.
Speaker 4: Rach and Bananas, just because I expect more from both
Speaker 4: of them, being that they're so smart, being that they've
Speaker 4: been in the Challenge.
Speaker 1: World for almost longer than some of these folks been
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, so yeah, those are gonna be my
Speaker 1: time out.
Speaker 4: But overall, gold star of an episode so much so,
Speaker 4: I mean we had to dish on it ourselves because
Speaker 4: like it's just juicy, it was good.
Speaker 1: Here's a good episode.
Speaker 2: I like solo episodes when it's just me and you
Speaker 2: talk and I feel like we out having a good
Speaker 2: old not cocktail because I don't drink no more so juice.
Speaker 3: We can have a juice.
Speaker 4: I love a good kid's juice, those honest juices that
Speaker 4: are like half water half juice.
Speaker 1: People crazy, they're good, they're vibe. Guys, don't sleep on it.
Speaker 4: If you guys got to hang out with us more
Speaker 4: besides the podcast, Like on social media, where can they
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Speaker 2: Yes, they can find me at Davon Diane on all
Speaker 2: social platforms Davon Diane Underscore, What about you?
Speaker 4: Likewise, you can find me on Instagram. That's Devin with
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Speaker 4: my website, Devin Simoone. You can find me on Amazon Live.
Speaker 4: Devin Simone a Challenger was just there the other day?
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