1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: This is Me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: bug bitten and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: can't predict anything. You know. What was like a weird 4 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: emotion I had the other day is I was coming 5 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: back from a trip and and and I get a 6 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: call with my wife and she's saying that my boy, 7 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: my oldest boy, has been invited to go fishing with 8 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: his body and that buddy's dad. And it was like, uh, 9 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: it felt like my old lady is going out on 10 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: a date with another guy. That's what you said, Yeah 11 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: you feel Did you get over that? Yeah? I got 12 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: over because I realized it's like, you know, it's like 13 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: a totally unfair feeling, but I felt like I was 14 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: getting cheated on. He'd never gone fishing outside, like fishing 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: with my brothers. I think a little bit, maybe up 16 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: in our shack or something. Um he'd uh yeah, he'd 17 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: never fished with another man. And it like left me feeling, 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I was jealous. My initial feeling was like, 19 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: of course, of course, but the back of my mind 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: I was feeling jealous. Then he wanted up catching a fish, 21 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: brought home to flay. He's all excited ate a bunch 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: of it last night. Yeah, it's probably good for him 23 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: to to uh have other teachers. Yeah, I was just 24 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: hoping they'd get skunked so he'd be like, if you 25 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: want to catch fish, you gotta go with the old man. 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: And now he's like, anybody can catch fish. Did you 27 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: come home with anything like oh we did this different 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: or so and so. No, but he if you turn around, 29 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: you'll see that rig right there. That's what he caught it. 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: That's what he caught. A silver on. He caught a 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: little he caught a little dink or like twelve inch 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: king that he that they turned out and then uh, 33 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: and then he caught a silver on. That sounds like 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: the dude he was with, which is pretty nice. Like 35 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: duty is with the way my kid tells it is 36 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: the guy says, hey, hold this rode, I gotta do something. 37 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: I gotta run an errand on the boat. And the 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 1: way my boy tells it is the minute he held 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: the rod, why I am a fish hit? But I 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: feel like I got checked. I haven't chatted with him yet. 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I feel like what happened was he maybe he hooked 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: the fish, which is just like move right to not 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: be like, hey, Sonny, there's a fish on here, but 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: just hand the rod and let him have like the 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: discovery one being honored. So I feel like he was 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: pretty shrewd, which makes me think he's a good guy. 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: But then he brought the fish home. He brought one 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: flay home. He said another family kept the other flay 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: because it was like a couple of guys out there 50 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: with kids. And uh, so he brought one flay home. 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: And I took my Japanese bone pickers and uh pick 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: the bones out and then the sounds growerty, But it's 53 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: not man. You were just saying may oh, like take 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: mayo and seasoning salt and lemon and herbs like parsley, whatever, 55 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: mince it up, mix it all together, and just like 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: layer that, spread that on the fish and then cook 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: it and then broil. That's good ship man. But you 58 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: tell people like you're gonna coat it, and yeah, it 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: sounds weird. You just gotta say I'm coating in in 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: the sauce ras and saying based on coating that something. 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Go back to Japanese bone picker. Oh, my Japanese bone pickers. 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: I have genuine stainless steel Japanese bone pickers. I mean 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: it looks just like a fans pair of tweezers. It 64 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: looks like the like a fingernail clipper, but not sharp. Yeah. 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: You know what's funny too about picking bones out of 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: salmon is uh, when I'm talking about picking bones on top, 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: about picking the pin bones right, like when you when 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: you flay a salmon or any number fish, you can 69 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: either like take the flay off with the ribs, then 70 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: just rib it in one piece and just take all 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: the ribs out comes off like a plant pain of glass, 72 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: you know. Or you take the ribs off, or you 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: either flay around the ribs and leave the ribs connected 74 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: in their rightful place to connect it to the spine, 75 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: or you take the whole damn thing off, ribs and all, 76 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: and then rib it. But the pin bones um, particularly 77 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: on a salmon, you just grabb with a pair of 78 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: needle nose. But my Japanese bone pickers are amazing. Uh, 79 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: I like them. But the funny thing is what I 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: found is when that fish is in like a rigor state, 81 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: even if it's just a flame, it's very difficult to 82 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: pull those bones mm hmm. If you set it like 83 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: the muscles hanging on. Yeah, Like if you freeze a 84 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: fish and then pick the bones, they pick easy. If 85 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: you catch a fish and go to pin bone it 86 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: right away, it's difficult. You set it in your fridge overnight. 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: It's easy to pick. So if you e k G 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: made it would be easy to pay. I bet if 89 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: your e k G made it, you the Japanese bone 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: pickers would work even better. Yeah, but you can use these, 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: these these pickers. You can pick all kinds of fish 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: with them. Um. And the reason I'm calling them Japanese 93 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: they actually came with There was no English on the package. 94 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: I ordered them. After finding out about them, I was 95 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: looking at a Japanese how to cookbook. A Japanese cookbook 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: you gotta read from back to front. Um, it's just 97 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: pictures of how to let cut up every fish on 98 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: the planet, and in there they're always picking bones. And 99 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell are those? So I 100 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: got to sniffing around online and I found those bone 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: pickers for nine bucks. Nice nine bucks. Yeah, but it's 102 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: just one more thing you gotta worry about someone losing. Man, Like, 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: when I see my kids, of those makes you want 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: to kill them much as I like them, speaking of 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: ordering stuff, I ordered a pair of fishing players, did you. Yeah, 106 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I got a new rule where I don't fish with 107 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: growing ups who don't have their own fishing players. And 108 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: now I don't backpack with growing ups who don't have 109 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: their own sterry pen to sterilized water. I'll probably come 110 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: up with more ship like this as time goes by, 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: but that's where I'm at right now, with being rigid 112 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: about people being mainly as fishing players. Man, yeah, it's depainting, 113 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: but when you gotta constantly be finding yours, taking them 114 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: off the land, you'red and pass them around. Yeah, and 115 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: with saltwater, you know, like all the stuff is real heavy, 116 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: so you can't get through it, you know. Yeah, it's 117 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: not like you like I used to use. I wore 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: a groove my teeth, cut line my teeth, but you 119 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: can't cut my eighty pound plays out there with my 120 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: pocket knife cutting through the eighty pound mono, And that's 121 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: just not safe in a rocking boat when you just 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: got that knife, you know, out and about all the time. 123 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of gear, not speaking of salmon flaze, not speaking 124 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: to Mayo, but speaking to gear, what we're gonna do. 125 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: We're doing a thing here. This is for all the 126 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: mugs that our eyes right in, like asking like super 127 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: specific gear questions, UM gear something like I like to 128 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: think about it more than I really like to talk 129 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: about it. Kind of that's kind of true. And I've 130 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: even declared I've even got we used to argue so 131 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: vehemently about geared for a while. I tried to have 132 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: it be that I would not gay engage in any 133 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: conversation arguing about the merits of various gear pieces. But 134 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a big major gear deal here because 135 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Yanni is going on um extracurricular uh hunting trip right now, 136 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: So he's all packed up to go for how long 137 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: a week? Yeah, roughly a week. So he's going hunting 138 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: for about a week with his bone arrow four elk 139 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: during the elk rut where he's a little background here 140 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: where he's going. Um, it would if you were gone 141 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: for a week, I would expect it to be in 142 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: the seventies sometimes, and I would expect it to be 143 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: dumping wet ass snow on you sometimes. Yeah, I think 144 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: that's a safe and something. It's like you will have 145 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: a morning, not not for sure, but like a very 146 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: good chance you will have mornings where you wake up 147 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: and there's six inches of just sopping wet slush on 148 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: all your ship, and you will wake up and you 149 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: will have midday periods when you're moving to a new 150 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: area and you gotta hike three or four miles into 151 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: a new zone. Um, when it's uncomfortably hot, right, yeah, 152 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: and I expect you could have you know, not only that, 153 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, because I was thinking about 154 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: sun protection, you know, for those moments. Um, so you 155 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: want to be like stripped down so you're comfortable, but 156 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: you also need some protection. So you know, like long 157 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: sleeve versus sunscreen. What kind of hat do you want 158 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: for it? But uh, yeah, I can imagine, um, not 159 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: just that, but like maybe possibly finding a betted herd, 160 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: you know that's on a ridge or something, and you're 161 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: moving in for the kill, you get within you know, 162 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: shooting range, and then you're sitting there at two PM, 163 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: known damn well that those probably aren't gonna stand up 164 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: until six and you're just exposed and you need to 165 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: be protected because it might be this beaten down sun 166 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: or could be spitting sail and everything. To keep in mind, Oh, 167 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: you're kind of in the you're in your you're you're 168 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: dead center, you're dead center. Uh, in the in the 169 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: population of about eight hundred grizzlies. So you'll see some 170 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: little mentions of that. And there, give her take a 171 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: couple of hundreds, give her take a couple of No, yeah, 172 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: maybe more. Yes, it's been referred to as I've been 173 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: planning for this trip, it's been referred to as the 174 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: grizzly pit. Yes. Yeah, it's just like, well, we were 175 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: in a zone that long ago and we saw six 176 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: or seven and a couple of what we see seven 177 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: seven in a few days, um, different bears, you know, 178 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: seven different ones, including some youngsters in there. Now all right, 179 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: talk about talk like like run through the duds you bring. 180 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: And this this is like, like I said, this is 181 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: like something that people pastor not pastor about, but just 182 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: asked so much about. And uh. Also before we get 183 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: into this, keep in mind the stuff we're gonna be 184 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: talking about isn't just necessarily for this, but this is 185 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: like what you use no matter what you were going 186 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, definitely, I think you just really make adjustments. Um. 187 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Certainly temperature, you know, as the year goes on, it 188 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: gets colder, you're gonna expect more snow. So that's when 189 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: something like, you know, we'll make adjustments towards that. We 190 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: can talk about that later. And uh, you might have 191 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: a shooting iron instead of a bone arrow exactly, and 192 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: you might have different optics, um, you know, or extra optics. Uh. 193 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like the base is pretty much 194 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: always going to be the same. You know, little accessories 195 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: here and there, But the little accessories add up to 196 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot of weights sometimes. So you only told you 197 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: only told one like you got one pair of socks. No, 198 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, I broke down my uh, um, what does 199 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: jump in with the duds the clothing? And I broke 200 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: it down into like what I'm probably gonna be wearing 201 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: of the time, and then what's probably gonna be in 202 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: my backpack most of the time. So you're only wearing 203 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: one pair, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, and 204 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: I'll have basically one pair as an extra. Do you 205 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: remember the old days and your kids, and you thought 206 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: that like putting more socks on, yes, and then putting 207 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: bread bags on them was like gonna be like the 208 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: ticket to warmth holies. Yeah, Um, cotton socks on the 209 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: last when you're putting your boots on. Trying your boots on, 210 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: you need to make sure that you can freely wiggle 211 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: your toes around, or else you will be a cold 212 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: little hunter. Um. So you got one of them on 213 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and then you run Marino, well, Marino boxers. Yeah. See 214 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: that's the deal man. This is like, you know, the 215 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: old boxer's briefs thing. I'm not a boxer's man, and 216 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck like boxers versus briefs, not boxer briefs. No, no, no, 217 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: boxers versus briefs. Yeah, I'm not a boxer's man. I was, 218 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: but I'm not. And um, that's a real Achilles heel 219 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: for you. Cotton, it's the one cotton thing. Hold on, 220 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: I know that there's companies that make non cotton briefs. Well, 221 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: they make those weird synthetic e ones. Yeah, I don't 222 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: like them. Those ones you can like washing the hotel 223 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: sink and dry them out real fast. No, I don't 224 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: like them. M yeah, man, it's an a killer. It's 225 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: like the weak link in the gear. Is that one 226 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: cotton thing? Yeah? Because they certainly I feel like those, 227 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: um are the ones we I use and most of 228 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: our crew uses the first light red Desert. I believe 229 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: they're called boxer shorts, and they come down you know, 230 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, my long legs, like almost the tops of 231 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: my knees, So I feel like with those, and then 232 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: if I, you know, pull up a long pair of 233 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: socks to the bottom of my knees, it's like you 234 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: almost have a whole second layer covering you know, your 235 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: legs underneath your pants. But doesn't get hot in the 236 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Marino they're not that loose right there, 237 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: like tight fitting Marino will bob. They're not loose at all. 238 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: Actually they don't fit, probably quite as tight as um 239 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: as briefs, but no, and they actually can prevent chafing, 240 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: right Like, I don't have that problems. I've got chicken legs. 241 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: But if you got like I feel like a thick 242 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: thighed fella, yeah, your thighs are rubbing, that can prevent 243 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, a little chafing down there. Oh yeah. But anyways, Yeah, 244 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm going like, and I'm gonna really try to stick 245 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: to this list. I'm actually gonna pack probably tonight and 246 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: finish packing in the morning and then go to and 247 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: then I'm walking into the woods tomorrow. But uh, I'm 248 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: going one pair of boxing shorts like the ones you 249 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: got on, just the ones I got on that. Yeah, 250 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: but that's a good move because people like the more stuff, 251 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: you like, the more clothes and things. I feel like 252 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people bring too many socks, too many underwear. 253 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: It's just stuff to manage. We'll manage. And like we 254 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: we had the luxury like along a lot of our 255 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: hunts where we like recently got flown in and so 256 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: couple three, four, even ten pounds of extra gear, it's 257 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: just gonna sit in my tent. I'm not really packing 258 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: it around when we leave to go han or whatever. 259 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Now we're packing on plenty of other stuff because we're working, 260 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: so there's cameras and batteries and whatnot. But here I'm 261 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: really like, there's none of that stuff. It's this is 262 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: purely for fun. And so there might be times when 263 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm actually having my whole camp and all my gear 264 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: on my back and I might be chang sing elk. 265 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: And I know from experience when the first time I 266 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: ever did that, I walked into the woods where I 267 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: think with a with all my water well with I 268 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: think it was roughly three liters of water on my back. 269 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I was chasing elk around with like a fifty five 270 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: to sixty pound pack. Very quickly after the first morning, 271 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I need to change. I need to 272 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: like figure out a different system, because when you're like 273 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: you're chasing a bugling bowl and you got fifty five 274 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: pounds on your back, you're not like you're not the 275 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: same hunter as you are if you have a little 276 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: day pack on your back. It's a big difference. You know, 277 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: your legs are getting smoked because in your mind you're like, 278 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, bugle and bull run, run, run, RNT run, 279 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: and then an hour later your legs are like, dude, 280 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: what's this all about? You? Yeah, I know that's that's heavy. 281 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of guys like just I 282 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like some guys just like over 283 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: do it and think about it. They do. But here again, 284 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: I mean, we can go down this rabbit hole and 285 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: go on forever. But if you really want to chase 286 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: salk with your camp on your back and be able 287 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: to stop at the end of the day and then 288 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: just be there and not use the time and energy 289 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: to go back to camp, you have to be fairly light, 290 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: all right, so I got your socks, and you've got 291 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: that far, so you might bring some sneakers or and 292 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: or is this and or or you're you're running like 293 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: mountain hunting booth. I think I'm gonna go and and 294 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: this is a place where it's gonna be extra weight. 295 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: But these high top sneakers I figured for my size. 296 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: I think they I just looked up to wait, they're 297 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: like fourteen ounces for a pair of nines. Okay, so 298 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: under a back I'm sorry, Yeah, they were under a pound. Yeah, 299 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: but for a pair of twelves, I'm looking probably a 300 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: little bit over a pound, right, there's not that much 301 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: more there. Um, and you want them for sneaking up 302 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: a couple of things like I've got um Morton's neu 303 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: roma in my feet, which is like Morton's neuroma. I 304 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: know you got feet problems. Yeah, it's basically like nerves 305 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: getting um agitated by metatursal bones, and it creates like 306 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: after a while, usually around five or six miles, it 307 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: can create some immense paint to the point where you 308 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: just like want to stop walking and take his shoes off. 309 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Eat ibuprofen. It's bad. The softer than mid soul isn't 310 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: a pair of shoes. The longer I can go without 311 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: getting to that like, the stiffer that mid soul is, 312 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the more quickly it starts to agitate and it hurts. 313 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: So having an extra pair of sneakers, especially if I 314 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: want to trail, say i'm packing in or packing out, 315 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: I'll carry my heavy, heavier, you know, mountain boots on 316 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: my back, even though that's you know, four or five 317 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: pounds back there, because I'm no at some point we'll 318 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: be running across the side of a mountain on some shale, 319 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna want those. But so I can just 320 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: bang out five, six, seven miles on a trail quickly, comfortably, 321 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: I might not have my feet. Yeah, and then you 322 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: put your then you put your barre tooths on and again. Oh. 323 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Something we didn't talk about is I'm going hunting with 324 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: your brother, right, So we got llamas. Um, so I'm 325 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: he's already in the woods. I'm going in there to 326 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: meet him. I need to be self sufficient just in case, 327 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, we don't come together. I need to 328 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: be you know, prepared. Um. But something like this, if 329 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I was only going by myself, I might consider just 330 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: not bringing my you know, mountain hunting boots and just 331 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: be going in myself. But no one that once you 332 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: get way back in there, you might hook up and 333 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: exactly put some on the llamas. Yeah, so I don't 334 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: have to carry quite as much food in because he's 335 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: already carried some food in. Obviously the lamas well, if 336 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: we kill, they'll be packing meat out. So I wanted 337 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: to carry as much out. So if I was doing 338 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: if I was in your situation, depending on the weather, 339 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: I would be running, I would be running. Uh my 340 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: snais barre tooths. And if it was really cold, I'd 341 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: bring my little down boot, my little down it's like 342 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of like a sock, kind of like a thing 343 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: for at night if you want to like stretch out, 344 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: but this time year, I would never bother with it, 345 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: right Yeah. And then a Marino wool T shirt mm hmm. 346 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: So this is all for your so just for like 347 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: one's body on a mixed climate hunt, a base layer 348 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: T shirt, base layer long sleep that's right, which is 349 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna be the Choma hoodie from First Light and no 350 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: beanie cap because that's something has a hood. Yeah. Not 351 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: only that, but I'm also gonna have my from my installation, 352 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my And this is something I wanted 353 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: to discuss and talk about because over the and again, 354 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: we get so much experience by shooting the show that 355 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 1: we get to try a lot of things and really think. 356 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, when you're just on long hikes back to camp, 357 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: you're thinking about, Okay, you know my beanies in my pocket. 358 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: I haven't worn it for two days, and I realized 359 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: that I was having a lot to me where I'm 360 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: just like, because sometimes you get that like ear ache, 361 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: you don't even wearing a beanie too long, and uh yeah, 362 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: I just wasn't using it because like like a lot 363 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: of our gear has hoods on it, right, So between 364 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: like the wool hoodie on the Choma hoodie, then the 365 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: uncome progrede jacket which has the insulated hood, and then 366 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: a rain jacket which has a hood. I figured, in 367 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: some pretty darn right shitty cold conditions, if I put 368 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: those three hoods on, I'm gonna be pretty comfortable. And 369 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: I know that the beanie is it's ounces right, it's 370 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: probably a quarter pound, but yeah, I'm leaving it, you 371 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: know what. I flirt back and forth with his running 372 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: what I call the Remy Warren, which is a baseball 373 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: hat and then you just put the beanie over it. Yeah, 374 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: because Remmy like has a trick where he doesn't always 375 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: run a tripod with his binys, but he's got like 376 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: like the Remy Warren. The move that I called the 377 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: Remmy Warren is a three part move. Once insulation move. 378 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: You always have a baseball cap on and you pull 379 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: a large beanie over that to keep warm. But then 380 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: when he's running his body, when he's using his binos, 381 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: he holds his hands around his binos and grabs the 382 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: bill of his hat. And I's if your hats tight 383 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: and you're grabbing your binos and the bill of your hat, 384 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: it works good. It's stabilized. And I think he also 385 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: he carries a hike and poll a lot and he 386 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: and uses that stable too, But like, I can't do that. 387 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: But it's also kind of uncomfortable. Yeah could the ball cap. Yeah, 388 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: beanie combo And for a long time, I wear like 389 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: a lot of times I wear like that first light 390 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: brand beanie. But that's not rigid. That's not like a 391 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: rigid set up for stabilizing binos. No, that wouldn't work 392 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: for that. Um, I feel like the only the real 393 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: the one thing you're getting from a baseball hat, right 394 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: is basically shade for your eyes, some some protection for 395 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: your eyes, which is crucial. You gotta have something that 396 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: provides you that. But the fact that most baseball hats 397 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: are cotton, I feel like it's a pretty big They 398 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: make them all out of goofy ship. Well yeah, I 399 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: mean now they have like technical fabric baseball hat shouldn't 400 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: say all, but yeah, there's a lot of bad material 401 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: baseball hats out of there, the mesh stuff that chafes 402 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: your ears. The Yeah, but I think since we're on hats, 403 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm also not bringing a baseball hat. I'm going with 404 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: a It's like a lightweight, breathable. It's a booney hat, 405 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: is what you call it, right, It's like a bucket 406 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: with a I don't know, it's probably like a three 407 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: inch brand that goes all the way around. Yeah, very lightweight, 408 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: very pacable. Uh would dry super fast, but it goes 409 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: all the way around. And I've noticed, especially when we're 410 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: sitting around in the sun glassing, it's nice to have 411 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: that protection not only on over your face and your eyes, 412 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: but now my ears are covered part you know, hopefully 413 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: at least part of the back of my neck is covered. Um, 414 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: and for me it's more comfortable. Yeah, I've never been 415 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: in the head guy. I don't like the feeling of 416 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: that back brim rubbing against my backpack. I don't like 417 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: when I'm leaning against stuff having that thing. Yeah, I 418 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: would like him, But you gotta pat you gotta patta 419 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: Gucci boony hat and again I'm I got such a 420 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: love hate with that organization, right, Yeah, I love a 421 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: lot of you. Anyhow, So Yanni's got on base Layer. 422 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: So so you got your base Layer T shirt basically 423 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: their long sleep in this case a Chama hoodie with 424 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: a hoodie in place. You don't need to wear a beanie. 425 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: Then a third layer is you got a Halstead fleece, 426 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: which is a flea shirt quarters hip quarters hip flee shirt, 427 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: and that'll cover you for like unless it's raining out. 428 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: That covers you for a real wide array of temperatures exactly. Yeah, 429 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: especially with the fact that you can, you know, the 430 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Choma and the Hallstead fleece, you can zip them down 431 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 1: to like just stirring them or even a little bit 432 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: lower really opens it up. And let's you get a 433 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: lot of heat out, you know, if you need to 434 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: dump some heat. Oh yeah, I find when I'm going 435 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: up a hill and you got that on, I think 436 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: this rolling my sleeves up to my elbows and then 437 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: unzipping those couple of zippers. It makes a huge difference 438 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: rather than stopping taking all that garbage off, you know. Yeah. 439 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: And another thing with the hood and you know, and 440 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: not having the hat. It's when I'm climbing up that 441 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: hill and you're trying to dump that heat, just ripping 442 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: that hood off, you know, on covering your head. There's 443 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: no better way than to dump heat that everything off 444 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: your head. Takes a big deep breath. And then the 445 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: ubsidian field pants which are like not that synthetic e stuff, No, no, no, 446 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: They're made out of same material as the cannabs were. Um, 447 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: they just have a few extra technical pockets on them 448 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: around the legs. Um, they don't that Like the cannap 449 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of has that cargoy pocket that sticks out a 450 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: little bit more taser, a little bit sleep from off 451 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: the side. The Cannap's got the pocket that kind of 452 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: sits up front. I've always liked them. I liked those pants. Yeah, 453 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: a lot, but um, so, yeah, it's a marino wool 454 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 1: with like uh like a rip stop material in them 455 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: m and then a couple like the crotch, the inside 456 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: of the uh bottom of the pant legs where your 457 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: feet can rub together. There's a little patch of synthetic 458 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: material to give the pants a little bit of stretching 459 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, wear resistance in the highway areas. 460 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: And those pants are good for again huge temperature ranges. Yes, 461 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: like running some lj's with him, you're good for like 462 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: in the freezing below freezing mark. Yeah. I think where 463 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people mess up is they start to 464 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: think about um and I did it for a long 465 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: time and I actually learned this from skiing. When we 466 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: sell ski clothes is we advise people to, hey, when 467 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: you're in the lift line at eight o'clock in the morning, 468 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: start cold. Yeah. Right, It's the same thing when you're 469 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: like at your tent eating breakfast, It's okay be a 470 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: little bit cold. Like especially elk hunting. It doesn't take 471 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: but a hundred yards and like that's the tempionshure you're 472 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna be working with, you know, and your body temp 473 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be working with for most of the day, right, 474 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: So start cold, start a little bit uncomfortable, and don't 475 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: bring that extra layer of clothing, the big down jacket, 476 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: just so you can have your coffee comfortably, you know. Yeah, 477 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: I think people uh too, you know, in place of 478 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: the down jacket, if you think about it, you could 479 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: just stay in you're sleeping bag a little bit longer, 480 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: eat your breakfast, and you're sleeping bag, then get out, 481 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: get dressed, and go. Well, we've done in the past too, too, 482 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: because you already you know, you've got your sleeping bag 483 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, I've spent a lot of time on 484 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: glass and tits in my sleeping bag, you know, whether 485 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: like the weather, depending if it's just like cold and 486 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: windy and just kind of miserable all oftentimes hop in 487 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: my sleeping bag when I'm just posted up somewhere watching, 488 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: I'll just do that to stay warm. Or like you said, 489 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: let's keep your sleeping bag wrapped around you and eat 490 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: your breakfast and then if you're carrying around a giant 491 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: puffy like a giant down pants and down jacket for 492 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: those like moments in camp, save that and just use 493 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: your sleeping bag as an insulation layer instead of having 494 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: all the more garbage with you. But at the same time, 495 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: you can be super careful that you don't get your 496 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: sleeping bag wet, you know, even you know it's like 497 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, down, a wet down bag is a real 498 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: bad a wet synthetic bag. You still got good insulation, 499 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: but it's just uncomfortable. It doesn't work as good and 500 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: it's uncomfortable. So you gotta like keep your bag dry, 501 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: but it is. It's gotta be really extremely cold before 502 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: I start bringing uh, like down like down jackets and 503 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: down pants and stuff with me. I mean, like way cold. 504 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: So we got two pants, a couple of accessories that 505 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: I have. I won't even I won't be wearing them, 506 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: but I at least have them in my pockets at 507 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: all the times. And it will be a pair of 508 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: like work glove style of gloves and then um a 509 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: Marino linery glove and the line of glove is probably 510 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: more for like a um you know, just to kind 511 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: of take the chill off. Or if I feel like 512 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm getting really close and I just want to cover 513 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: up the shine the sheen in my hands, you know, 514 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: something to do that. Um, So just practice shooting in 515 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: those gloves, then yeah, I haven't done a way different 516 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: feetle Man. That's a good thing we should talk about 517 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: because in general I didn't shoot enough with sort of 518 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: like like I'm always wearing my bino harness. I never 519 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: shoot without my bino harness on and my range finder. Um, 520 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: I try to like wear the hat that I'm gonna 521 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: be shooting in. But over the last week, like a 522 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: few days prior to lead on this last trip, and 523 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: then the last couple of days, I started putting on 524 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: like a twenty pound pack with my forty four on 525 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: my side, bear spray on my side, you know, the 526 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: GPS hanging off of me, wearing the shoes I'm gonna 527 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: be hunting in, and just really you know, zipping up, 528 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: like doing things like uh, putting a hoodie on and 529 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: zipping it all the way up and then shooting. That 530 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: feels a lot different, Like I have a kisser button 531 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: on my string now, and when I have a hoodie 532 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: on a lot of times that kisser button wasn't hit anymore, 533 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, just that little bit of extra material. It 534 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: feels a little bit different. But I've shot enough to 535 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: know that, you know, at fifty yards even if I'm 536 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: not feeling that kisser button. As long as I'm you know, 537 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: lined up through my peep and everything looks good, you know, 538 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm shooting fine. But yeah, that's very important to do. 539 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: It's like all this stuff you need to be you know, 540 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: at least hopefully towards the last week before you go 541 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: on the hunt, is be shooting wearing all this stuff, 542 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, especially the backpack because it feels different. You 543 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: really want to make sure that you're just not um impeding, 544 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: like the string, whether it's on the draw or the 545 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: shot itself. You're talking about buying the harts or bulky sleeves, right, yeah, yeah, 546 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: experiment with it all. Uh so that's why you're wearing 547 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: the Marino liner gloves. And then you got like a 548 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: pair of like a pair of hybrid shale gloves which 549 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: are kind of like a not not kind of like 550 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: it had like work glove elements to them. Yeah, heavy 551 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: duty leather palm, you know, breathable back, breathable will back. Yeah, good, 552 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: like pretty versatile glove. And then I always use one 553 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: to net gator. I love those things. Yeah, I like 554 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: items that have I As I was building this list, 555 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: I was thinking about how many items I have that 556 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: have like our multi purpose And I was thinking, you 557 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: know what that net gator if if I just fell, 558 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I want to be wearing a beanie. 559 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: You can wear that thing like a beanie, and sure 560 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: there's a hole on the top of it, but you 561 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: do it. Sometimes you get on your all kinds of things. 562 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: So I use it for its intended purpose as like 563 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: a warmth device. I use it so you're not burned 564 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: in the back of your neck, because amazing how many times, 565 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: like you can burn your neck five times a year, right, 566 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't get you know what I mean, Just 567 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: like it doesn't like tan up, kind of like how 568 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: your lower arms do or you just like eventually it's 569 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: become like impervious to burn. So you can even be out. 570 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: You can even be out in October and like bake 571 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: your neck all over again or your ears. So I'll 572 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: just use it like that, um wan't a warmth sun protection. 573 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes I put it up on my hat when I 574 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: get like when your hat just gets uncomfortable, I put 575 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: that thing on for a while. And then the main 576 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: thing I use it for is especially hunting in Alaska 577 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: in the early season when you have so when you 578 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: have like twenty hours a daylight or eighteen hours a daylight, 579 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: I'll use it over my eyes to sleep and for 580 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: nappy time too. So I'll just take that netgator and 581 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: it's I just kind of folded up and wear it 582 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: like a I peace and allows me to It allows 583 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: me to conk out and sleep good. And then I 584 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: do it enough where if I wake up and it's 585 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: kind of like an emergency situation in the middle of 586 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: the night or whatever, I'm not like confused by like 587 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: I just noticed, like lift it up, you know, um, 588 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: and it really helps me get uh, helps get those 589 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: twenty minute and absent and it helps at night, especially 590 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: if you're in the area when like this time you're 591 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: in Alaska, you have these very prolonged periods of like 592 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: kind of duskiness, it can be hard to sleep. So 593 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: I was like to block my eyes so I can sleep. Yeah, 594 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: So I use it for all that. And it's not 595 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to have on because it doesn't add a lot 596 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: of heat to you when you just get running around 597 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: your eyes. Yeah. But I think like within these lightweight 598 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: Marino net gators, the weight to like gain ratio yeah, 599 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: there's almost no weight and what you're getting out of 600 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: that as a piece of warmth. I've had two instances 601 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: that I can think of in my head where I 602 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: was like in like a very cold stain and it's 603 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: like a like a very important part of the hunt 604 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: where there's like animals nearby, or I'm having to like 605 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: glass it's like sea where an animals going, but like 606 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: you don't want to, like you need to be staying there, 607 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: but you're like very cold, like shavering cold, like it's coming. 608 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: And I've remembered I've had these gators in my pocket. 609 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: Put them on and put that on your neck, and 610 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: I think it's almost like putting a beanie on, like 611 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: just insulating your neck, keeping that blood flow, you know, 612 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: warm as it's going to your head and back. Huge 613 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: Also the main one I wear, I got a hole. 614 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I cut in one part of it. So when I'm 615 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: turkey hunting, smoker, no mouth calls, so the whole you 616 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: never even noticed there. It's a really small hole there 617 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: as you keep it in the back. But when I 618 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: spin that thing around and pulled up, like if I'm 619 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: hunting turkeys, when I got when I'm trying to like 620 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: work a bird all the times. Just pull that net 621 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: gator up over my nose for a camouflage. And I 622 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: got a little hole cup, so I just swing that 623 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: hole around over my mouth and I can take diaphragm 624 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: calls in and out of my mouth or blow calls, whatever, 625 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: and put up in that hole and use it and 626 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: the when I'm done, I just dropped the thing back 627 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: down to my neck and spin it around. But fishermen 628 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: wear the same thing though the buffs. Yeah, since it's 629 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: a it's a synthetic material. But they were the same thing. 630 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: Now because people are realizing you shouldn't just be like 631 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: scorching your skin all the time. Yeah, sounds screen or not. Yeah, 632 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: So pull that thing up to block your ears. It's 633 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: so great. It's like a thing that not many people use. 634 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: But it's like a real gem of a of an item. 635 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: And you're not running any gators. No, I wouldn't either. 636 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: Net are what it's it's for. That kind of stuff 637 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: is too loud. Yeah, Usually gators for me are like 638 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: a deep stone. When I say, you know, I find 639 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: no I'm gonna encounter six plus inches, I'll probably put 640 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: on gators. Or if you're in an area. It's just 641 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: like like tons of creek crosses or lots of like 642 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: mucky hell holes and stuff. Pretty nice for that reason, 643 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: because when your pants are all wet on the bottoms, 644 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: it just gets annoying. And if you want to climb 645 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: into your sleeping bag, you got all that extra water. 646 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: So when you do it, like in wet snow, when 647 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: it's all just caked in, it's nice to take that 648 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: off and have dry lower legs and just slipping your 649 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: sleeping bag and night not to worry about taking your 650 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: pants off. And that's a good point to bring up 651 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: to something I'm gonna start doing is if I'm because 652 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have rain pants. Right, So if we 653 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: do have like a super dewey morning, or if we 654 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: get that six inches of wet shitty snow that you 655 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: were talking about, when I'm put on my rain pants, 656 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out into very wet conditions, I'm gonna 657 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: make sure that my pants are rolled up, tucked up, 658 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: the pants underneath my rainpants somehow, because I feel like 659 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: what happens is that that moisture like hits your cough 660 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: like you're talking about, and it just it just it 661 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: us to travel. Yeah, it wakes up and so then 662 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: it goes to your socks and your socks wicket and 663 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden that you know, even though you're 664 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: completely covered, that moisture is like going up your pants 665 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: to your socks and then down into yours. I never 666 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: enjoy having gators on, Like when I put gators on, 667 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm only I'm playing the long game, right, 668 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm always annoyed by them, you know, I'm annoyed 669 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: by where they feel. I'm annoyed by the noise. But 670 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: in certain situations, it's so nice to pull them off 671 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 1: and have your legs dry from the knee down when 672 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: they would otherwise be full of mud, snow or whatever. 673 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: So I tend to carry him more when I put 674 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: them on. And it's one of those things like at 675 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: the last minute, like I'm going somewhere, I got my 676 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: duffel and my gators are in it. At the last minute, 677 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: I'll oftentimes leave them in my duffle and they don't 678 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: make the final like I can't trim them out in 679 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: my garage, right, Like I can't cull it in my garage, 680 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: but cull it at the last minute before loading my pack, 681 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: I look at him like really, and then a lot 682 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: of times I'm like, no, yeah, it might be something 683 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: that I have in the truck to that would be 684 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: it would be good, it'd be smart. I mean, I 685 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: know that what the weather is coming up, right, I've 686 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: got like a couple of sunny days and then we 687 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: have some rain days and there's actually another forecast in 688 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: a snow day. Not a lot of accumulation, but there's 689 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: definitely gonna be some moisture. Um. But yeah, if I 690 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: knew that I had to hike in whatever to three 691 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: hours and I'm looking at doing that through four or 692 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: five six inches of snow, probably worth it. Even if 693 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: it was a couple inches snow, it might be worth 694 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: to put them on just for the long game. Uh. 695 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: All right, So in your so your pack, you gotta pack. 696 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: This will give you a sense like this sounds like 697 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we're gonna be talking about, 698 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: but it's not. Because you got a thirty pack. Explain 699 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: that whole deal. Yeah, it's the same pack I used 700 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: last year, and I know I know it works for 701 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: this so um, the pack is a stone Glacier solo thirty. 702 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: I believe it's the name and UM, so it's thirty inches. Um, 703 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: it's slim, trim, tidy. UM. The pack itself only has 704 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: one pocket built into it, and then you can accustomize 705 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: it by adding their little pullout pockets that come in 706 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: different sizes. So there's a little attachment points, like on 707 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: the back side of the UM it opens like a 708 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: clam shell and uh, on the back side of that, 709 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: there's a couple attachment points and then UM on the 710 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: what would be like the faces your back the back 711 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: panel on the inside, there's a couple attachment points to 712 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: for these super lightweight UM what would be the fabric, Oh, 713 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: the little nylon pockets, yes, right, and um yeah, ultra lightweight. 714 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: You know, it just gives you a little bit of organization, um, 715 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: but for a couple of little like loose things. And 716 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later. But anyways, yeah, it's not big. UM. 717 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: The way I can do all this is that the 718 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: all my gear will fit into the pack itself and 719 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: then they have that system, the load shelf system with 720 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: their UM dry cell bag that fits in that in 721 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: the load shelf which basically fits between the pack and 722 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: the frame. Right, so as it's like a little bag 723 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: it's not quite like a dry it's not like a 724 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: submersible dry bag. But it's like yeah, I think the 725 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: only reason it's not submersible is because they seems aren't 726 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: taped right, so there is some breathing. Definitely a rainproof yeah, 727 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: like a like a rainproof bag, but not like a 728 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: rubber not like we're not talking like what I'm trying 729 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: to say. It's not like a rubberized dry bag. No, no, no, 730 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: it's light. It's like pack it's like pac material with 731 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: a roll top. So what I'll do is on the 732 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: way in, all my food will go into this um 733 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: dry cell bag between my backpack and the frame, and um, 734 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: I'll pack it in. And it's nice about that is 735 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: as soon as I get to camp, just grab my pecord, 736 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: pull it up into the tree and it will act 737 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: as my bare bag, you know, for the hanging food 738 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: until you know, hopefully we get a kill and we 739 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: have to use it to pack meat out. Um. So 740 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: once I do that, also probably if we're you know hunting, 741 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: like if we're gonna be coming back to camp, you know, 742 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: I'll dump all my camp gear, my cooking stuff and whatever, 743 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: and then that thirt it cinches down so nicely that 744 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you go from you know, basically 745 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: carrying in a whole camp and you sent you down 746 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: to where it looks like a kid's you know, school 747 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: day pack. That's the thing about that, That's the key 748 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: about these packs. It's like if you're ever trailing a 749 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: bunch of elk through timber. Let's say you're trailing you 750 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: got like five six elk going down through timber, and 751 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: you notice that one of those elk keeps peeling off 752 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: away from the group and then coming back into the 753 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: group and peeling off away from the group. That's a 754 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 1: lot of times a bowl who knows his antlers can't 755 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: fit through the gaps in the trees, so all the 756 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: cows can go screaming down, and he's always like playing 757 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: in the head about where he can actually go and 758 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: not go with a rack that's like the widest part 759 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: of his body. I've used a lot of packs. There's 760 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: like a lot of packs I like, but a problem 761 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: with pack like I don't like a pack for for 762 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: unless I'm hunting like open open country. I don't like 763 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: a pack where the pack is any wider than I am, 764 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: because you just never unlike a bull elk. You never 765 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: get used to having things on you that are wider 766 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: than what you're used to. It's so you wind up 767 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: making a lot of unintended noise going underlogs through stuff, 768 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: and you're just banging that thing all the time, not 769 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: just banging it, but hanging it up. And these packs 770 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: are actually like if you got a dude, like like 771 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: the way the stone Glacier packs are if a guy's 772 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 1: wearing when looking at you, you don't see the pack 773 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: when it's snugged up, but you don't see the pack 774 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: bulging out in weird angles. No, not at all. So 775 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: it allows you to kind of move through without having 776 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: to constantly be like remembering what the hell is going 777 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: on in your backpack. And like this pack, like I said, 778 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: there's only one pocket there. There's no lid, um, so 779 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: there's nothing flopping once you set you down. It's just 780 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: slim trim. Nothing's gonna snag. Um, there's just there is 781 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: nothing to snag. There's there's there's like there's a lot 782 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: of good packs. No pack is absolutely perfect, um, but 783 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: I do like these freaking packs a lot, man. Uh. 784 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, the pocket thing when it's all snugged up 785 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: you like, you love looking at how tidy it is, 786 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, But it's like this like trade offs. You 787 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: put these big sleeve pockets on the outside everything, and 788 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: just you get like a bulkier pack. It's more stuff 789 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: floppy and hanging. That seems like you're organized, But again 790 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: the tradeoff is when it's all loaded up, like how 791 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: tight and confined and quiet is that thing? I remember 792 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: reading a book about the LRPS and Vietnam, the Long 793 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: Range of Connaissance Patrollers, and it would say that before 794 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: they would go out, they would load all their gear 795 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: on and then jump and you would keep jumping, and 796 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: then they would use electric tape to to tighten things 797 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: up and keep things so they didn't rattle or bang. 798 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: They would keep jumping until they could jump and make 799 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: no noise. And with a pack, with these kind of packs, 800 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: once you snug them down, you can achieve that like 801 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: noise free jump that you're never gonna get with a 802 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: lot of loose, floppy pockets all over the place. So 803 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: again it takes you gotta kind of rethink how you 804 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: organize your gear. If you're like a big time pockets guy, 805 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: you gotta rethink like how everything's gonna go. And the 806 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: thing I found with backpacks too is I'll use a 807 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: backpack for a couple of years and then my whole 808 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: system gets conforms to the pack. Yeah, so then when 809 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: I try a new pack, I might recognize something I 810 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: like about the new pack, but then I kind of 811 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: like dislike the pack for a minute because I gotta 812 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: redo my whole system right down. Like when I go 813 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: to brush my teeth at night, right if I've been 814 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: using the same pack for a couple of years, like 815 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 1: I just know like toothbrush, toothpaste or whatever within it, 816 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: here's where my Like if I've got a paper map, 817 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: where's that? Where's all my stuff? And then I get 818 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: a new pack and I get frustrated and I blame 819 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: the pack, but really it's just getting away to get 820 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: dialed in. That's why I hate, like one thing, I 821 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: hate changing around all times. I hate changing my pack 822 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: all around. When I need a new pack, I'm trying 823 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: to find a pack aroun I'm like, this is gonna 824 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: be my pack for years, and I'm gonna hunt everything 825 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: with this pack just to have it be that. I 826 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: just know where everything is, you know where it all goes. 827 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: No there's a lot of to be seven that because 828 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: it's it turns into efficiency, you know, and if that 829 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: means if it costs you that it might cost you 830 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: just thirty seconds one time when you're going to pull 831 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: out your spot and scope and your tripod, but all 832 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden that animal walked over the ridge, you know, 833 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you all you needed was 834 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 1: one glimpse to be like, yes, that was a bull, 835 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: or it wasn't a bull. We're not going over there. 836 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: Yes it was, we are going over there. And yeah, 837 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: having that system dialed is there's you know, times when 838 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: it's crucial. All right, let's go over to packed clothing, 839 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 1: so you bring socks to put over your boots. Yeah, 840 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do this year because over your 841 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: mountain boots or over a mountain boots especially, probably wouldn't 842 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 1: need them in in stalking socks or socks, they're they're 843 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: basically just a giant pair of wool socks, like not 844 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: with a stalking pad. I'm just gonna pull them over. 845 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: Have you tried it a long time ago? Yeah, last 846 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: time I went quiet, we used those uh what do 847 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: they call it? Sneak ease I believe like a ninja bot. 848 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: It's like it's like a yeah, it's a thick fleece 849 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: kind of soul with basically just um bungee cords going 850 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: over the top of it and you put your foot 851 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: into the bungee cords since it tight. Those things. Yeah, 852 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: those things are incredibly you know, quiet soft. I just 853 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: feel like again to trade off, like it's only gonna 854 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: be used for while. I'm like, I have something like 855 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: betted and I gotta like sneak in if you were 856 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: stalking something on a gymnasium floor. Those are great, exactly. 857 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: They suck when it gets Yeah, you're on a forty 858 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: five degree pitch full of a bunch of rocks and stuff. 859 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: They are not stable. They're not stable, and it makes 860 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: a huge, huge difference. Um. We've talked about this before, 861 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: but in Arizona it's like a lot of times you're 862 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: chasing um it's down in the Unit ten where I 863 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: had this experience, but you're chasing elk across stuff that 864 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: has you know, because millions of like pebble sized rocks, 865 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: it's sort of just like rub against each other. They 866 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: look like because they look like pumics. They're a pumacy 867 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: volcanic rock. That's like hunting on corn flakes exactly. It's 868 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: like it's like the corn flake version of rocks. And 869 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: when you're in a heavy souled mountain boot, like I 870 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 1: think for humans it's sometimes imperceptible, but I noticed that, 871 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: Like one day I was like, you know what I'm 872 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: gonna my my feet? Is it? It was I've been 873 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: in the woods for a while and my feet were 874 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: starting to hurt. I'm like, I'm gonna go hunt in 875 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: my run issues today like some trail runners. And I 876 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: just remember like coming in on some elk and be like, 877 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like how much quieter am I right now? 878 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: Just because it was like a soft, malleable soul that 879 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: was sort of sucking up the rocks as opposed to 880 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: pushing against them. And that's saying in morning I noticed 881 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think what happens out there is that 882 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: the bulls keep bugling right like that They've managed it 883 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 1: to the point where like it's like very hot, good 884 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: running action because it's very even like numbers like bulls 885 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: to cows. Right, they keep bugling, but as hunters are 886 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: moving around and closing the distance, the massive bugling sort 887 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: of just kind of keeps his buffer away from you. 888 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: You know, you're like, oh, the wind is good, everything's fine. 889 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: But I think there's just that like that little bit 890 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: of noise where they're like, whatever that is over there, 891 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: and it's making that walking noise. It doesn't sound like 892 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: us on the rocks. Let's just slide over a little ways, 893 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: you know. And as soon as you take that away, 894 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: whether it's by going running shoes or putting on some 895 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: sneak eas or those you know, like socks over your boots, um, 896 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 1: and it makes a difference what I'm thinking about trying 897 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: in the futures. I'm talking about trying my uh just minimalists. 898 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: They're actually called minimalists minimalist sneakers because there you could 899 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: walk kind of steep pitch and have a lot of agility. 900 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: It's not like running around and like like those things 901 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: that go over your boots that are unstable. It's like 902 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: walking on tussocks almost. But yeah, I might try that 903 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: in the future, or those little ninja boots, not the 904 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: bungee kinds, with a little ninja socks, you know. Yeah, No, 905 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: I think those little minimal issues would would work well 906 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: for stalking. Sure, I feel like I feel like that 907 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: might be the way to go. I'll probably bring those 908 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: down to Old Mexico and try them out because that's 909 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: a lot of that gravelly crap down there too. Um. Okay, 910 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: so you run a dry bag to keep all your 911 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: extra gear. Yeah, and again like packed clothes, going to 912 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: a dry back like a super lightweight. It's basically a 913 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: stuff sack, but it's waterproof. Um. And in there will 914 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 1: be an extra pair of socks, a pair of bass 915 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: layer body, one pair of one extra pair of socks, 916 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: so you have on you a total of two pairs 917 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: of socks for one week of hunting. Yeah. If I 918 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 1: had to, I mean if they got so crusty and crunchy, 919 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's what happens after a while up. 920 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah that if I really had to, I could probably 921 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: wash them in a stream or something and hang them 922 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: up and in a day they'd be dressed. Hang them 923 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 1: off the back of your pack when you're hiking around, um, 924 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: and they get back nice again. Yeah. And I feel 925 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: like if you do the right things, like take them 926 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: off at night, put them into the bottom and you're 927 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: sleeping bag. So so you're sleeping back, sucking the moisture 928 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: out of them. Don't just roll them up and stick 929 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: them into your boots which have a lot of moisture 930 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: in them that you're that should be you know coming out. 931 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,359 Speaker 1: Keep that whole system dry and you're gonna get longevity 932 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: out of it, you know, before those socks aret to 933 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: get slicked up, crunchy, it's like not comfortable anymore. And 934 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: then to keep mine. If you're hunting an area, you 935 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: gotta cross bad creeks, bad you know, fast slick rock creeks. Uh, 936 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: put your extra pairs, take your boots off, and don't 937 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: cross barefoot though, because you you know, you slip on 938 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: the rocks and bang your feet all up but across 939 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: in a pair wool socks and then hang them out 940 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: to dry out. But that way, you just it glues 941 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: you to the rocks. Man, It's like wearing felts old waiters. Yeah. 942 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: It protects you. Yeah, I mean unless you stay on 943 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: top of the rocks instead of having your feet slipped 944 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: down between the rocks getting all messed up. Basic layer bottoms. 945 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I think they're gonna go because I'm looking 946 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: at the weather and it's looking like it could be cold. 947 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: Enough where I could be hunting in those like actually 948 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: wearing them. You know, I don't want to again like 949 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: you're saying, I don't want to have those clothes are 950 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: just for a few minutes or that you end up 951 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: pack them around the whole time. But I feel like 952 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: the base layer bottoms, it could be cold enough. And 953 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: what I was thinking about is if somehow, like my pants, 954 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: my regular field pants get soaking wet and I need 955 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,879 Speaker 1: time to dry them out, you can wear base layer 956 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: bottoms and your rain pants, and that's a very comfortable 957 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: system to go out and do your thing in. Right. 958 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 1: It's not as quiet as just wearing your fueld pants, 959 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, but it's um you know, to hike out 960 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: that way. You know, you can vent your rain pants 961 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: if it's getting too hot, but it's it's a comfy 962 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: way to go. And I'm old enough to now where 963 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: if I had to, i'd probably just I'd would skip 964 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: the rain pants just where you're you know, long Tom 965 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: bottoms and go hiking like a Kiwi it's on New 966 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:23,720 Speaker 1: Zealanders hunt shorts and long John's, uh so puffy pants 967 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: like a synthetic puffey pant. If it's super cold, you'll 968 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: add a synthetic. Yeah, so I'm not bringing it on 969 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: this trip. It's just not gonna be cold enough. And 970 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: then a puffy jacket mm hmm yeah your na oh, yeah, 971 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: that's coming for sure. And then you got the boundary 972 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: storm pints, storm tight rain pants, and then the lightweight 973 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,760 Speaker 1: rain jacket. It's like a light, thin layer rain jacket. 974 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: That's a risky move, but they do pack up real 975 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: nice and tight and small. Man, Oh my god. And 976 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: if you're on the fence about a rain jacket, go 977 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: with the rain. Go with like, rather than go no 978 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: rain jacket, go the lightest, little rinky dink rain jacket 979 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: you can find. Yeah, it's a bold move to go 980 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: no rain jacket for a week. Yeah, super bold. You 981 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: know you're gonna have you're gonna have to do something, 982 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: whether it's an umbrella or a tarp that you're constantly 983 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: setting up. But yeah, it's a very bold move because 984 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: all the texts is one storm and it's like sure, 985 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm gonna go huddle underneath the tree, 986 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 1: but if it blows and starts coming on their sideways, 987 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna be miserable. And then, uh, one thing I 988 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: don't see here. You don't use a pack cover. Well 989 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: you do you you're yeah, that'll that will be in 990 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: there for sure, like a fitted like a fitted pack 991 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: cover from the manufacturer of the backpack. Um, no tent, No, 992 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: just tarping it, just tarping ten by ten tart, ten 993 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 1: by temp tarp. Keep in mind when you're sleeping under 994 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 1: the tarp if you're six ft tall, don't be like, oh, 995 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: I need a six ft tarp. You got like like 996 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 1: a tent by ten tart. Once you put a pitch 997 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: in it, it's still like there is not a ton 998 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: of room to be off center under that tarp if 999 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: it gets bad, if it gets bad. Yeah, And I like, 1000 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: I like the whole bush craft of using the tarp. 1001 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: Like I've got a couple of pitches down. I set 1002 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: one up last week to cover up our meat, and um, 1003 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: we had some amazing wins. I mean we definitely had 1004 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: gales that were hitting I don't know, at least fifty 1005 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: maybe sixty plus, and uh, what ended up happened? Is 1006 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: this new This it's a Colorado I think it's called 1007 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: Colorado tarp from seek outside. But it has like the 1008 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: little tighteners already built in so you don't have to 1009 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: run like knots that you know used tightened. And the 1010 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,760 Speaker 1: cord that I had was just a little bit too skinny. 1011 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: It was holding just fine when it was blown thirty 1012 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: and forty, but as soon as the gale hit it 1013 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: with sixty, I think that the line to slipped through 1014 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: the tensioner itself. You know, I had like a two 1015 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: mill cord just trying to be light. I think if 1016 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: I just bump up to three mill like it would 1017 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: take that. But I'm not expecting that kind of wind 1018 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: on this trip. You know. What I do that know 1019 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: the two thoughts on when you use the tarpet ista 1020 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: of tent. What I do that no one, no one 1021 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: agrees with me on is I make a six inch 1022 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: loop of bungee of small shot cord. On every corner 1023 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: and every every guy point on the tarp, I put 1024 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: a bungee in there. The reason I do that is 1025 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: I'll use mine a lot. If you're perched up somewhere 1026 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: glass and for the day and it starts raining or snow, 1027 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: and I'll often just put my tarp up just to 1028 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: give a comfortable place where you can stay dry and 1029 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,760 Speaker 1: warm under there. I put bungee in all my corners 1030 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: because I can just wrap those bungees around little branches, 1031 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,959 Speaker 1: chunks of brush rocks and set it up very fast. 1032 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: I'll run around trying to find stuff to tie off to. 1033 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 1: The Other thing is when I do tie it off, 1034 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 1: I tie to the bungee and that gives it some 1035 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: You can pull it tight, but it still gives it 1036 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of flex which keeps the fabric from 1037 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: giving out and tearing or other problems you might have 1038 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: with trying to keep it tight and nice. And it 1039 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: keeps some of that flap noise down when you got 1040 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of stretching there. So I like to 1041 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: do it to turn everybody else onto it, no one, 1042 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: no one else runs them, but I always put the 1043 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: bungees on mine. And when you do pitch out of 1044 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: tarp to sleep under, keep it low. You don't need 1045 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: to have your tarp like if you're sleeping under, not 1046 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: like a hangout tarper. To sleeping under tarp, you don't 1047 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 1: need to have it way up in the air. You 1048 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: should crawl into that thing like how you crawl into 1049 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: a tent, because then you don't have stuff blowing in 1050 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: from the sides right. Yeah. No, I think like if 1051 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: if like someone else and my m me, if I 1052 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 1: someone else under the tarp together, you probably had to 1053 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: go to like an a frame a frame style pitch 1054 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 1: right where you have a ridge running from one pole 1055 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: to a tree or between two poles, um, just to 1056 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,960 Speaker 1: give yourself the room. But if it's just me, I'll 1057 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 1: run what's called like a diamond pitch, and so I'll 1058 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: run off of one of my tracking poles or a tree. 1059 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: Is even better because you can get a little bit 1060 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: higher and then basically run like a diagonal ridge from 1061 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: corner to corner to the ground, and then your two 1062 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: other edges just sort of like come men and conform 1063 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: to the ground. So you've only got one end that's open. 1064 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 1: And so as long as you pitch properly and don't 1065 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 1: have that open to the wind, you know, you've got 1066 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: amazing coverage and you can throw a fire, you know, 1067 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 1: right there if you want to, and stay dry and 1068 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,240 Speaker 1: nice like you're always gonna be open to the elements, 1069 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, from some angle. Um, there actually are pitches 1070 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: where I think you can completely close off of the tarp. 1071 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: I've just never done it. Um. Oh yeah, there's like, yeah, 1072 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: there's like if you have a huge tarp, there's the 1073 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: way that you're laying on the tarp. You got a 1074 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: back wall. You're laying on a little bit of the 1075 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,839 Speaker 1: tarp for groundcover. You got a back wall that comes up, 1076 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 1: it goes across the lid and drops down as a 1077 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 1: as like a wall. That's a huge tarp. But you 1078 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: see an old timey books and you still have two 1079 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 1: open ends though, wouldn't you. Yeah, still got two open ends, 1080 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: but you position for the wind. Because here's the thing 1081 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: people don't like when you're ringing up. Like for instance, 1082 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 1: Alvish Mast took a picture of it when I drew 1083 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: my copy River Buffalo tag years ago. I remember I 1084 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: had a setup where I was sleeping under a tarp 1085 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: and I was actually burning buffalo chips in a little fire. 1086 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 1: And I remember reading about that when God, when you're 1087 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: setting the tarp up and you're actually heating, you know, 1088 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: you make a fire for warmth. In the old days, 1089 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,959 Speaker 1: you didn't make it be that you're tarp shielded the wind. 1090 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: You want to draft through it so you could get 1091 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 1: heat under there, but not trap all your smoking there. Right, 1092 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,920 Speaker 1: Remember getting up and thinking how much I liked it. 1093 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: Looks at how I had my tarp and my buffalo 1094 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 1: chip fire. I snapped a picture, walked over the edge 1095 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: and shout of buffalo after really coming to grips with 1096 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: the idea that I was not going to be getting one. Um. 1097 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's like a you know, even like 1098 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 1: when you're reading really old ship about like old pioneers 1099 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 1: and old explorers. I mean they used tarps all the time. 1100 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: That was like their their tent material, and they got 1101 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: way ways of pitching them. Um. There's a book, God, 1102 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: what's that river book? River? Now you know the author? No, 1103 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: but it's a guy in Canada. I can't remember. Runting book. 1104 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: He they do a lot of hunting, a lot of trapping, 1105 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: river deception, I can't remember. Anyways, there's a great book 1106 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: where these guys, it's in the nineties and big fur 1107 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: boom going on, and they're trapping and cannon and working 1108 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: the rivers, trapping, and they always got to get to 1109 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: their site because they're they're out in the middle of 1110 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: the winter. And he describes their tarp setups. They got 1111 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,919 Speaker 1: a plan two hours every night to get their tarp 1112 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 1: setups in such a way that they can survive using 1113 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: not using tense but making making setting up tarps in 1114 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: a way that you can burn wood to try to 1115 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: keep for freezing death. And you always had to plan 1116 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: on that two hour set up, and these guys weren't 1117 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 1: run around with head lamps. Yeah, so it really cut 1118 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: into your day, right, But I do like types. It's 1119 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 1: like there's like a tidiness to it that you just 1120 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: kind of like, man, yeah, and a versatility, you know. 1121 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: And again you've gotta be ready for you know, it's 1122 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: fine and danny when it's you know, seventy during the 1123 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: day and then it's like a starry, thirty five degree 1124 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: night with zero win, It's like who cares, don't even 1125 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: set the tarp up. You can just like sleep out right, Um, 1126 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: get your head into the hood of your sleeping bag. 1127 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: But if it blows and then there's moisture coming in, 1128 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: um yeah, you better like have like like some experience 1129 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: and a plan. And one of the things that's gonna 1130 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: that's allowing me to do this is I'm going to 1131 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 1: use a um nemo sleeping bag that has basically like 1132 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: a um like what they call like a bad sub 1133 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: floor in a tent. It basically has that built into 1134 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 1: the seating back, so you don't have to bring ground pad. 1135 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: It's built in or I'm sorry, a ground sheet or 1136 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: tarp that's built into the bag. And then it kind 1137 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: of curves around your feet. So a lot of times, 1138 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: like especially tall guy like me, you know, your feet 1139 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: are sticking out at the end of whatever, or even 1140 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: if you're in a tent, your feet are touching like 1141 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: the tent wall, which can cause moisture to come in 1142 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: and get your bag. So that sort of is protecting 1143 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: me from you know, the moisture that you didn't plan for. UM. 1144 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: And it's also a the sleam bag system is built 1145 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: so that you can slip your pad into the sleeping bag, 1146 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: so it kind of sits between the bottom insulation and 1147 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: then that bathtub floor that I was talking about, the 1148 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: waterproof floor UM, which is pretty slick. Keeps you on 1149 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 1: your keeps you on your path, you don't slide off. UM. 1150 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 1: Final thought on tarps if it's bad mosquito time, like 1151 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you know, if you're hunting like spring 1152 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: hunts or you're hunting late summer hunts, it just you 1153 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: gotta plan on that too. It just doesn't give you 1154 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: a break. No, if you got bad black flies, bad mosquitoes, 1155 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 1: and you're you're going the tar. It's like sometimes when 1156 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: it's so bad, you know, particularly Alaska in other places too, 1157 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: it just gets so bad it's hard to like, it's 1158 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: hard to maintain your sanity. Yeah, the bugs, and it 1159 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 1: is nice to have a mesh, just something and now 1160 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: and then get a break from that ship. When we 1161 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: were up at Bucks, we slept out a bunch my 1162 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: brother and I believe we're sleeping out and uh, well 1163 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,440 Speaker 1: worked pretty good now and again it had it been 1164 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: too hot to sleep up and sleep to zip up 1165 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 1: the sleeping bag, it would have sucked. But we were 1166 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: just zipping up and then basically putting on a head 1167 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,479 Speaker 1: net and that worked. I had a had a thermo 1168 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: cell on that trail didn't. But you still need something 1169 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: to can do well. It depends on whendy it is. Uh, 1170 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I don't agree with you, and I 1171 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: know you'd like to use them as you use trek 1172 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: and polls. All again, a couple of things I need 1173 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: him for right, UM need him to build to pitch 1174 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: a tarp possibly using for a hiking, especially when I 1175 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 1: got meat on my back I think it, you know, 1176 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 1: saves your knees, saves your back, takes stress off your 1177 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: joints um and I'm not bringing a tripod, so I'm 1178 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: gonna use that pole for one of the poles for classing. Yeah, 1179 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: that's a calhan does tore right, Yeah, you know. And 1180 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: then so we already covered this. You gotta Nemo insulated pad, 1181 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: Tensor twenty pad and a Nemo are Galli fifteen degree 1182 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 1: bag no ground pad because you're sleeping bag has a 1183 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: waterproof brain. You bring your little blow up pillow. Oh man, 1184 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: I would not. Yeah, no, I'm not going to, but 1185 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: I gotta say we use these. I think they're called 1186 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: the it's called the philo. I'm guessing they took like 1187 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 1: fleece and pillow and made up this word called pillow. Dude, 1188 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's dream come true. Oh it's so nice. 1189 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: But it's just like on a backpack exactly. And again 1190 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: it's allance is. You're probably looking at, I don't know, 1191 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: not a half a pounds. Yeah, barely. No. I think 1192 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: when you put in the stuff sack, it's about your 1193 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: like Steve's giant fist. It's bigger than a powerful fist. Yeah, 1194 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: uh I love him, don't get me wrong. It's like phenomenal. Um. 1195 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: I hate myself for getting to that point in life 1196 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: where where I have like a little pillow, blow up 1197 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: inflatable pillow. But in this case, I'm not that old yet. No, 1198 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 1: if you have to carry around all in your it's 1199 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: a base camp thing. Yeah, and this is what I do. 1200 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: This is uh um how I build my pillow, and 1201 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: which was nice to have the Nemo pillow because I 1202 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: didn't have to spend the five minutes. Or maybe it's 1203 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 1: only to building my pillow. It's just nice to get 1204 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: in your bag and just go to bed. What I do, 1205 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: and it works good because it's as I'm taking off 1206 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: my layers. But basically would take my puffy jacket across 1207 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 1: the arms, folded hood in and then sort of rolled 1208 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: it up so you kind of have this like long 1209 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 1: rectangular role. And then I take my next layer off, 1210 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: which is usually my fleece, and I slide it neatly 1211 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 1: into that fleece all the way up to where the 1212 01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 1: arms come out, like to the shoulders. I flip it 1213 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: over and then again cross the arms or no, I'll 1214 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: flip over the bottom of the fleece so that now 1215 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 1: you've um, you know, just kind of repeated that rectangular role, 1216 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 1: but the arms are still sticking out. And then I'll 1217 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: fold your arms and put like a one overhand, not 1218 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: trying to lay it as flat as possible, and that 1219 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: sort of contains the puffy jacket inside, right, and it's 1220 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: comfortable on your face because you're not sleeping on that nylon. 1221 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: And then I'll flip it over so that the knots 1222 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 1: on the bottom and then that gets kind of stucked 1223 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: into the um the hood of my sleeping back and 1224 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,640 Speaker 1: it works fine a little making it's just like, yeah, 1225 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 1: it's it's a luxury for sure to not have to 1226 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 1: do that and to have your you know, bitch a 1227 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 1: little back country pillow. But I'm really I'm gonna leave 1228 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 1: those four ounces behind game calls, games, game call intensive hunt. Yes, definitely. 1229 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's one of the reason I going on 1230 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: this hunk, because I love to you know, call elk 1231 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:30,080 Speaker 1: um phelps bugle to four diaphragms, and um really two 1232 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: of them are extras probab bringing to their you know, 1233 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,320 Speaker 1: sort of softer latex you know, you know, for sweet 1234 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: little cal calls. And then two that are double triple 1235 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: reads that are stiffer for bugling. You know, a bugle 1236 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,640 Speaker 1: is such with you know, loud a lot of intensity 1237 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 1: that even those you know, triple read diaphragms, when you've 1238 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: been blowing on them for three or four or five 1239 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: days a lot, if you're really bugling a lot to 1240 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: whether it's to get responses or to get a bowl 1241 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: fired up or whatever, they can start to soften up 1242 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: over a while, and you know, you hate to have 1243 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: one that starts to break or something. You know, as 1244 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: you're bugling. So as light as the diaphragms are, you know, 1245 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: four diaphrams weighs nothing. The call I'll probably use the 1246 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: most over the course of a week is an external 1247 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 1: read type CAL call phelps. This is called the easy 1248 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: estrus and um. The read sits on a on a 1249 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: board and then there's a little castration band that holds 1250 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: the read to the board, and then there's the U 1251 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 1: I guess like the tone chamber, the sound chamber that's 1252 01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: attached to that. And I love those because like you 1253 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: can make them loud, I mean so loud that I'll 1254 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,439 Speaker 1: use them to locate bulls. Just make one or two 1255 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: big loud cal calls like off of a point and 1256 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of times you get a bull they answer 1257 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 1: to that. Um, he's just a good American man, Phelps Jason. Yeah, 1258 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: we like Jason. Um. And then your brother and I 1259 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,439 Speaker 1: decided to bring in a montana El decoy this year. Yeah, 1260 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 1: I would probably have not brought it in. And again, 1261 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: definitely if we weren't using if we didn't, if I 1262 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,840 Speaker 1: didn't have Lama was waiting for me at the other end, 1263 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: because it's it's a couple of pounds maybe even a 1264 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 1: couple of pounds plus um, And if I was hunting solo, 1265 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not gonna deal with it. That's a 1266 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 1: two dimensional Yes, it's basically it's it's like a printed 1267 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 1: picture onto like a stretchy I don't know, pol Yes 1268 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 1: or Nilon blend or something that sort of sits over 1269 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: this frame that you can just twist down and folds 1270 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: down into the you know, a small little twelve inch package. 1271 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 1: But the steaks are what have some weight to them. Um. 1272 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: That that's what definitely adds a weight to the decoy. 1273 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: But your brother's you know, fired up on using it, 1274 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: so we're gonna try it out, and you're bringing some 1275 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: you're bringing some eight by forty vortex knockers. Yeah, I'm 1276 01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 1: going with the eights, tidy, little package, tidy. You know, 1277 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 1: it's probably not that much lighter, if anything, then then 1278 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: the tens I mean it's you know, it could be 1279 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: a percentage of anounce. Maybe I don't know. I haven't 1280 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 1: looked into it. But I like the larger field of view, 1281 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 1: the steadiness. I feel like with you know, uh, bow hunting, 1282 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: you're always in your like a lot of times you're 1283 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: scanning like a hundred to two hundred yards of you know, 1284 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: looking for elk in the timber and um using one 1285 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 1: hand because you got your bow on the other hand, 1286 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 1: or something bugle too in the other hand, whatever, you know. 1287 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: But it's just like it's steadier, yeah, more to steady 1288 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: than any else. Wider field of view. Um, And it's 1289 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,520 Speaker 1: not like you're trying to count annually on a sheep 1290 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: or counting brow times on some moose two miles away. 1291 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: It's just like bowl or not able, yeah exactly, or 1292 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: where'd they go there's a patch of fur, you know, 1293 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 1: their head and left. UM on that note, not bringing 1294 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,919 Speaker 1: um spotting scope or tripod and that's a huge wait 1295 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 1: you know drop that's um, I'm probably looking at like 1296 01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,760 Speaker 1: eight or nine pounds that I'm dropping out of the 1297 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 1: kid there um for me, you know, going on this 1298 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 1: archery elk hunt. I mean maybe it'll change in five 1299 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: or ten years, but yeah, I'm not I'm not even 1300 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: counting points. I'm like looking for a bowl and that's it. 1301 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: So I need to just find elk, see elk moving 1302 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: And even with eight three miles away, if I see 1303 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 1: elk on the hillside and I know they're elk, you know, 1304 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,960 Speaker 1: and you keep and you keep your binyls in your 1305 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,799 Speaker 1: range finder in uh in a f HF vinyl harness 1306 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: has got a little range finder pouch, so your range 1307 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 1: finder sits right next to your range finder sits right 1308 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: next to your binyl is easy to get at, and 1309 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: it's got little pockets on it, so you've got some wind, 1310 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 1: a little smoking a bottle wind detector. Basically, it's like 1311 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: taking a talcoum powder and squirting it out of a 1312 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: little bottle and shoots a little puff up near and 1313 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 1: you can see what's going on now invaluable. Yeah, when 1314 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 1: conditions right, it seems unnecessary right because you take your 1315 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 1: boot and stir up a little dust and see what 1316 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 1: it does. But oftentimes you're in a spot where you know, 1317 01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,639 Speaker 1: if you're an area, it's just like pine needle whatever. 1318 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 1: You can't get like a good wind detector, and bow hunting, 1319 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: especially trying to walk like sneaking on elk man. It's 1320 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: like the wind is the old not the only thing, 1321 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: but the wind is like the main thing you're thinking 1322 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 1: about all the time, all the time, and you gotta 1323 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: pick your moments. It's like a mistake we used to make. 1324 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 1: And this is kind of why I wish I could 1325 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: revisit a lot of the old go back of time 1326 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,680 Speaker 1: and revisit a lot of the old hunts we used do. 1327 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 1: We used to just be like too eager to rush 1328 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: in and not like a lot of phenomenal opportunities slip 1329 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: through our hands from not taking time to just assess 1330 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: and be patient, wait for the thermals to switch. What 1331 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: are the thermals doing right, and like all that kind 1332 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: of stuff and just being like, wow, let's take our 1333 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: chances and go. Or you get into it there and 1334 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: the wind changes and you're like, wow, yeah, let's just 1335 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 1: trust our luck. Now it's like now, and sometimes you 1336 01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: just get hold of this. Man, it's like everything's been 1337 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,120 Speaker 1: going right for two hours and then there's just one 1338 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 1: gust that comes up, you back and then blows an out. 1339 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 1: But it is nice to have that constant, you know. 1340 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: I us just used dust and seed, grass seeds, anything 1341 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 1: like that. But and uh, you know northering I used 1342 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: to do, which I actually loved a lot. I had 1343 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 1: done this a long time. I out and know why. 1344 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: I used to take a bird feather. Does any feather? 1345 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 1: I'd fine, And I'd take eight inches of dental floss 1346 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 1: and hang it off somewhere in my bowl, want to say, spot. 1347 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 1: The only thing that kind of turned me off to 1348 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: it is you had to kind of manage it. You 1349 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,080 Speaker 1: can still get wrapped off, yeah, but man like if 1350 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,560 Speaker 1: you're going through brush and stopped between. Yeah, But it 1351 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 1: used to be like now and then I just love 1352 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: that thing because I'd had that little I'd kind of 1353 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 1: like pull it out and hang it down and on 1354 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 1: the limb of my bowl. I had that dental floss 1355 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,679 Speaker 1: and that bird feather. Man, you can get an accurate reading, 1356 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,120 Speaker 1: but it gets wet, it gets tangled. But when it's 1357 01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 1: like up and running, it was nice. It's just constant 1358 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 1: information that feather has given you about what's going on. UM, 1359 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: and you bring a little cloth for your binos. I 1360 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 1: think that's pretty important. Oh it is, man, It's just 1361 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 1: like it. Maybe maybe you're not seeing any less with 1362 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: dirty glass, you know, lenses, but it just is like 1363 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 1: any time I haven't done it for a couple of 1364 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 1: days and you wipe them clean, You're like, oh yeah, 1365 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 1: It's like if you miss a day of brush in 1366 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 1: your teeth and then you brush your teeth and you 1367 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: get that same clean, cleansed feeling. Say things looking to 1368 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 1: clean binos. The boys of Vortex gave me these things. 1369 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 1: I think I know they're available to in drug stores, 1370 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,800 Speaker 1: but they gave me these uh little white packets. And 1371 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: what I like about those is when you get sunscreen 1372 01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,519 Speaker 1: or something on them, it's a way to get them off. 1373 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,360 Speaker 1: I'll usually carry one of those in my kit, one 1374 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 1: of those optics wet wipes for sunscreen or any kind 1375 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 1: of other grease or any kind of thing that doesn't 1376 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: want to wipe off off them, but you can usually 1377 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 1: with a clean micro cloth. You usually get them clean 1378 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 1: and back up and run in into normal. UM. I 1379 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 1: know that I like about the little wet wipe thing 1380 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,680 Speaker 1: is when you get a lot of dust kind of 1381 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,680 Speaker 1: in the when the I cups like spin in and out, 1382 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 1: you kind of use it to clean everything out and 1383 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:11,040 Speaker 1: keep them up and running. Um butchered kit. Yeah, I 1384 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 1: wanna bring a bench made steep country. That's the ricking 1385 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 1: knife man. I love that knife. Um, and that's the 1386 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: only knife. Um. I'll be taken. No multi tool. What 1387 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: do you got with you for if you if you 1388 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 1: screw something up on your bow or need a monkey 1389 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: with it? Do you bring a little kid? Yeah, little 1390 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,559 Speaker 1: repair kit which will basically have all any size uh 1391 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 1: you know Alan screw that's on the site or you know, 1392 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,680 Speaker 1: you know any of that. It's all Alan. Yeah. But 1393 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 1: but I just feel like having like a little like 1394 01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,600 Speaker 1: the reason I carrying It's like how often you need 1395 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 1: a little pair of needle loaves? I see, I was 1396 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 1: thinking that when I was packing. I was like, not 1397 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: that often, especially when I'm holding that big, heavy multi 1398 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: tool in my hands. I like it because the little 1399 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: saw I don't, and all my the the Alans tooks 1400 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 1: for my stuff. I have an adapter, so all those 1401 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: little Alan's are on my right. But no, I get it. 1402 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 1: I get it. But I just oftentimes I oftentimes find 1403 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: myself like very happy to have needing those players even 1404 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 1: digging out in growing tonails and whatnot. I just use 1405 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: all the time. Man, Well, I mean it's that's what 1406 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean. The fun part about this is, you know, 1407 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: you go out there and if I get worked over 1408 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,040 Speaker 1: because not having my needle nose, then next time I'll 1409 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: be packing them. Yeah, but it is. It's heavy. It's 1410 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 1: a very heavy little item. Um, you got a little 1411 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 1: mini sharpener which kind of you don't need because you're 1412 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,920 Speaker 1: only gonna be doing an animal. Yeah that's true to 1413 01:13:53,320 --> 01:14:00,080 Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, yeah, but it's so small and so 1414 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 1: light that little bench made made me feel a sharpener 1415 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 1: that like, I feel like it's worth it. Yeah. We 1416 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 1: just said a trip where you chopped up three like 1417 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 1: doing a caribou a day and the sizeable animal. You're 1418 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,600 Speaker 1: glad you got a sharpener. If you're going out and 1419 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 1: just like the most you're gonna do is you're gonna 1420 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 1: get like, oh animal, you're just gonna be doing a deer. 1421 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 1: I don't even you know, I don't necessarily worry about 1422 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 1: it because like if you got a honed up knife 1423 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna get you through that plus more. But it 1424 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: is really small zip ties for what reason, They're just 1425 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 1: nice to have. I mean they're in my little butcher 1426 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: and kit section because, um, I like to put my 1427 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,479 Speaker 1: tag on with a zip tie, you know, Montana. It's 1428 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,479 Speaker 1: kind of a big carcass tag and I think it 1429 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 1: comes with holes, you know, pre punched. I mean obviously 1430 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: you could use peak ord or whatever. Um, but yeah, 1431 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: I just like a zip tie I carry. I carry 1432 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,720 Speaker 1: a couple of zip ties in my emergency kit. Yeah. Yeah, 1433 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,639 Speaker 1: And obviously fix all sorts of stuff with the Kala. 1434 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 1: They're strong. You can you can fix backpacks and stuff 1435 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 1: with them. Um. And then tag game bags I used 1436 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: to like, and I still like some aspects of Like 1437 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 1: there's a copy of Laski game bags I used to 1438 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 1: use all the time. It's like a disposable bag and 1439 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 1: it's like a cheese cloth in material, but flies can 1440 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,160 Speaker 1: lay eggs through it. And if you drop that bag 1441 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,679 Speaker 1: in the dirt, the meat stil gets dirty. It keeps 1442 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 1: out big stuff, but it doesn't keep out fine stuff. 1443 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: But they're inexpensive, which is nice, and you just they're disposable, 1444 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: which is like, well, it's just part of like the 1445 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 1: disposable world, right, everything that just gets thrown in the 1446 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 1: trash all time as a bummer. But you're not like 1447 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: messing around trying to clean them and getting blood out 1448 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 1: of game bags as a chore. So yeah, now I've 1449 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 1: settled it. Not using the reusables, the tag bags. It's 1450 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 1: almost like a silky kind of silky feeling and material 1451 01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: and flies can't lay eggs through it. And you can 1452 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: bag up meat and drop it in the dust and 1453 01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: the meat doesn't get any dust on it. I think, 1454 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,479 Speaker 1: I think if you drug them through mud and like 1455 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,080 Speaker 1: we're like, you know, somehow pushing that through the material, 1456 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 1: you it would eventually, like you know, it would permeate 1457 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 1: and get through. But no more more protection though more 1458 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,560 Speaker 1: definitely more protection. Yeah, and reusable and um easy to 1459 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,519 Speaker 1: hang strong and then you get but you gotta come home. 1460 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,639 Speaker 1: And I to come home and take a five gallon 1461 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,040 Speaker 1: bucket make a mild bleach solution. Yeah, so come or 1462 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,320 Speaker 1: take some simple green soaked soun's a bitches a couple 1463 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,880 Speaker 1: of times, wash them in the washing machine, give him 1464 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,639 Speaker 1: the old smell test, hang them out in the sun. 1465 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 1: But it's hard to deal with Yeah, yeah, definitely, because 1466 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 1: you think you got it. You think you get it, 1467 01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 1: you think you got your pat clean, and then it 1468 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 1: rains and it just reactivates that stuff and you realize 1469 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 1: you didn't get it clean. I just peroxide man, eats 1470 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah, gets the blood out. That's the that's 1471 01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:56,920 Speaker 1: the key. I don't use it on game bags, but 1472 01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 1: on the pack. I do it a lot. In a 1473 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,519 Speaker 1: spray bottle. Yeah works good. Oh yeah, I hear people 1474 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. How much you gotta 1475 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 1: put on there. I mean, just spray it. You'll see 1476 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,880 Speaker 1: it does the foamy thing and then rinse it off. 1477 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 1: Really spray it. Maybe. All this time about using hydrogen 1478 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 1: peroxide to clean blood out of backpacks, the one thing 1479 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: you'd be careful and I think it's it's actually, um 1480 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: it could be corrosive. I think a fabric. Yeah, you 1481 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to like like like sprayed on there and 1482 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,720 Speaker 1: leave it. That's why that's why my backpack. I don't 1483 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,960 Speaker 1: like to use the bleach solution. Yeah, I'm afraid of 1484 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 1: dicking up the stitches. Uh fift of three millimeter pair 1485 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: cord as you carry, but I use that weird expensive 1486 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,599 Speaker 1: I can't think of what it's called, but like makes 1487 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 1: it so it's like half the width now, dynema, Yeah 1488 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 1: that's what it is. Well, I got some of that 1489 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 1: ship's expensive, dude, but it's like, yeah, it's like the 1490 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 1: guy that's really counting ounces. It's like what's extremely strong, 1491 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 1: very thin in and I keep it because the thing 1492 01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 1: is out depending on what kind of stuff I'm doing, 1493 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 1: if I'm really wait conscious and I'm not doing like 1494 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: if I'm doing like a not needing to be way 1495 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,160 Speaker 1: conscious but in a very place where it's just very 1496 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,440 Speaker 1: difficult to be and there's a lot of like bushcraft 1497 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 1: kind of factors at play, like river trips for instance, 1498 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 1: right like a river, like a river hunting trip where 1499 01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 1: you just constantly rigging and fixing and trying to figure 1500 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: stuff out deal with big animals. I'll bring extra pair 1501 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: of cord, knowing that I might be cutting it up 1502 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,519 Speaker 1: and doing various things with it, guying out stuff, rigging tarps. 1503 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,040 Speaker 1: But the reason I bought that that souped up material 1504 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:40,600 Speaker 1: para cord is I would never cut it. It's just 1505 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 1: like a little teeny's twenty five ft school that I 1506 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:47,280 Speaker 1: keep always in my stuff. And then because I know 1507 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,560 Speaker 1: I got one length for like hoisting stuff up or 1508 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 1: any kind of thing. And if I need, if i'm 1509 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 1: gonna know i'm gonna be using something, I'll grab some 1510 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 1: all their like more conventional six hundred pound parachord and 1511 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,800 Speaker 1: carry it with me for for for just rigging. But 1512 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 1: keep that one emergency piece intact. Good plan. Uh yeah day, 1513 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 1: I'm forbidden for cutting it up unless it's a life 1514 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,880 Speaker 1: death situation. Uh. Cooking and water you gotta jet boil 1515 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,600 Speaker 1: one fuel canis I was gonna get. I thought of 1516 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 1: a little pro tip though, I want to come back 1517 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 1: to those tag game bags. They're drawstring is long enough 1518 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 1: where unless you're you're hanging branch or post is just 1519 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, super thick. I'm guessing like over you know, 1520 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: six or eight inches. But if you've got something smaller 1521 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna hang your bag off of. Um it's the 1522 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 1: length of chords long enough where you can do a 1523 01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 1: And the pro tip here is that the not that 1524 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,679 Speaker 1: I eventually found and now used for this and east 1525 01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 1: of this, like he used to kill me, but I 1526 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 1: never had like a good quick release, not for like 1527 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,960 Speaker 1: you know how some dudes or two people with an elk. 1528 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're holding up an elk quarter and then you're 1529 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be the guy tying, and then like you 1530 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 1: have a plan in your head for like the not 1531 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 1: to use, and so you be like you think you 1532 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,760 Speaker 1: got something tied up, and they let go. The thing 1533 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 1: just hits the ground, or you do or you do 1534 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,760 Speaker 1: a clove hitch and you gotta get back up in 1535 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,200 Speaker 1: there and take all the weight off to get the 1536 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: hitch on done, yeah, or you end up cutting it. 1537 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,760 Speaker 1: So I found a not called the Siberian hitch, or 1538 01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 1: I think another name for it is the evank e 1539 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 1: v e n k hitch. But you can tie it. 1540 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 1: I can actually hold the weight as long it's not 1541 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,840 Speaker 1: like a rear quarter on a elk, and hold it 1542 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,679 Speaker 1: and then the way you tie it is it goes 1543 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 1: over and then you to create the loop. You basically 1544 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,120 Speaker 1: keep two of your fingers out and then your tag 1545 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 1: in goes around the line and you pull a loop 1546 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 1: through the loop that your finger two fingers are making, 1547 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: and then you can just release the weight and it 1548 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,960 Speaker 1: snugs up. But so it's slick because one Siberian hitch. Yeah, 1549 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,679 Speaker 1: you can do it by yourself. Almost most of the time, 1550 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,200 Speaker 1: and then it's a quick release, so it needs to 1551 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,000 Speaker 1: come down. You just pull a tag in and it's out. 1552 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,719 Speaker 1: I like that. I got to look out the Siberian hitch. Um. Yeah, 1553 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:05,400 Speaker 1: so if you got but again, if you have a 1554 01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 1: bigger uh you know, branch or log you're hanging it 1555 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 1: off of, you're gonna have to add some pecord. So 1556 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 1: cooking the water, you gotta jet boil. One canister cigarette lighter. 1557 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 1: Usually carry a regular cigarette lighter and then a mini 1558 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 1: dinky cigarette lighter that I tuck away somewhere, because it 1559 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,000 Speaker 1: sucks to lose your lighter. Yeah, I definitely, Yeah, you 1560 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,240 Speaker 1: gotta have to um. Another thing about lighters I like 1561 01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: to do is I like to wrap, um tape all 1562 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 1: my lighters. Don't you identify your lighter so muggs you're 1563 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 1: with don't steal your lighter and just gives you like 1564 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: a little place to have some tape. Yeah, duct tape 1565 01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 1: on one and maybe um we had a stuff called 1566 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:48,719 Speaker 1: gaff tape uh in camera world and uh it's super tough, 1567 01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,840 Speaker 1: but like it's removable and you can write on it. Um, 1568 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,680 Speaker 1: so I can have some of that stuff you know 1569 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,439 Speaker 1: on it. And if you use a bright color, and 1570 01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 1: you can always find your lighter. Uh, got your drinking cup? 1571 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Long handled spoon. Now, anyone that eats house mountain house 1572 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 1: freeze dry you need a long spoon. If you eat 1573 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 1: out of freeze dry bags, you want a long spoon 1574 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 1: that where your knuckles don't get all full of a 1575 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,519 Speaker 1: pasta sauce. Yeah, it's key, you can get one. I 1576 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 1: think I think it's seed of stomach makes it titanium 1577 01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: on a titanium. Yeah. And then my little kid in 1578 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: my little back country organizer, like I organized all my 1579 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,640 Speaker 1: small stuff in the outdoor Research back country Organizer, and 1580 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,680 Speaker 1: in there there's like almost a spot that looks like 1581 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,759 Speaker 1: it was made for long handle spoon. And that spoon 1582 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,320 Speaker 1: is just barely short enough or the or the back 1583 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 1: counte organize is just barely long enough to hold that spoon. 1584 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,360 Speaker 1: And I file two V notches into the handle of 1585 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 1: my spoon, and that spoon is called D double V notch, 1586 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 1: And that's how I identify my spoon. Yanni puts a 1587 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,800 Speaker 1: bright piece of tape around his It's kind of a 1588 01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,320 Speaker 1: better idea because it's because titanium spoons are like the 1589 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 1: perfect camouflage. They disappear uh, one court size Nal Jean 1590 01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 1: wide mouth type bottle so you can scoop up water 1591 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: in it. Um a dromedary. It's like a big collapsible 1592 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 1: water bag. And that's like a really essential piece of 1593 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,040 Speaker 1: gear if you gotta go a long ways for your water. Yeah, 1594 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,600 Speaker 1: you have to haul water at all. Um, if you 1595 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 1: know you're gonna be spending time, you know, away from 1596 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:30,800 Speaker 1: your water all day hunting, you know, up on the 1597 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 1: side of a mountain. Um, it's key. I think that 1598 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,720 Speaker 1: they make a smaller but I think the one I 1599 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 1: have is four leaders and it sounds like a lot, 1600 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 1: but obviously you don't have to fill it up. They 1601 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 1: make a lightweight, small bag, but it's not durable little 1602 01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 1: burst yeah, but I think you can get it in 1603 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 1: the durable version. I think so, yeah, but that the 1604 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 1: same thing. It's like, I think mine holds two courts. 1605 01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:00,360 Speaker 1: It's like a black material. UM, very rugged. I don't like. 1606 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:05,680 Speaker 1: I don't like, uh, water bladders in my pack. Do 1607 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,839 Speaker 1: you drink out of a hose Because the hoses freeze, 1608 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,560 Speaker 1: the bladders leak. You got like a frozen hole, so 1609 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,320 Speaker 1: you can't drink anyways. And then all this stuff in 1610 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,880 Speaker 1: your pack soaking wet because the badder bladder burst. I 1611 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,040 Speaker 1: messed around with those out like those things, and I 1612 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: think what happens even more often, what happened to me 1613 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,519 Speaker 1: so many times is that like the mouthpiece, live of 1614 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,600 Speaker 1: them have locks on them, you know, you know, the 1615 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 1: open and clothes. But you leave it open and you 1616 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,760 Speaker 1: set your pack down and the weight of the stuff 1617 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,519 Speaker 1: the pack presses down onto your mouthpiece and it just 1618 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 1: slowly leaks out. Yeah, not only is everything wet, but 1619 01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,680 Speaker 1: then you're out of drinking water. Yeah. I'd rather think 1620 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: about hunting and think about that dang bladder. My pack 1621 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: man thinks driving crazy Now. The upside is, though, I 1622 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: gotta say, it's sweet to just always have that, you know, 1623 01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 1: like a sip of water is handy. Oh listen, Yeah, 1624 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,160 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about the I didn't everybody know is 1625 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: the upsides. I think the upsides are obvious. You stay 1626 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,599 Speaker 1: hydrated because you're drinking all the time. That's the upside. 1627 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,519 Speaker 1: And just you know, it's a big upside calling you know, 1628 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,040 Speaker 1: you're getting you know, dry mouth, you know, and you're 1629 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 1: just like, oh the water you drink away, you go, 1630 01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,639 Speaker 1: you drink taken for granted, that drinking water is good. 1631 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 1: You drink way more water with a hose. But I've 1632 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,400 Speaker 1: just had too many problems with those things to where 1633 01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I just don't use them, and I don't 1634 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: drink as much water as most people. I find, Uh 1635 01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,200 Speaker 1: sterry pins, which are kind of like the only thing 1636 01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 1: we even use anymore. M Yeah, we're always packing. I 1637 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,599 Speaker 1: think it's Aquamera that makes the tablets, so we always 1638 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:48,360 Speaker 1: have those case because the sterry pen, it's a mechanical device. Man, 1639 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:54,440 Speaker 1: it's got like it's got UV bulb. It takes batteries, 1640 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 1: but you can keep the thing in your shirt pocket. 1641 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,599 Speaker 1: I mean they're many, but it can fail. Yeah, ultra 1642 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:04,200 Speaker 1: could fail. Yeah, pump could fail too. So if you 1643 01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:09,439 Speaker 1: like having super pristine clean water. Um. For instance, this 1644 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 1: last time we were just on we the whole camp 1645 01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 1: drank out of a uh puddle, I mean it was 1646 01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,559 Speaker 1: a puddle. It's like what do you call that? Think 1647 01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,960 Speaker 1: it's like like a not a sinkhole, but a little 1648 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:21,800 Speaker 1: hole in the tunder with some water in it. Yeah, 1649 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 1: like a little tunder puddle. Yeah, but like even your 1650 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,559 Speaker 1: even your kids could probably jump over this right small 1651 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 1: like uh mushy, you know, muddy bottom, lots of stuff 1652 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 1: floating in it. So if you if you don't want 1653 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 1: to drink water that has floaters, you have to pump. 1654 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,240 Speaker 1: If you don't mind that strypens awesome, or if you're 1655 01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,160 Speaker 1: just hunting near creeks and stuff you know that has 1656 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 1: clear water. Uh. You got a head lamp ye black 1657 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,479 Speaker 1: diamond headlamp. Yeah, and I was gonna find the name 1658 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 1: of it, and I ran out of time. But super small, smooth, 1659 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:03,640 Speaker 1: super lightweight, only runs on two triple a's. It's not 1660 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:08,040 Speaker 1: like a megabeam headlamp. Um, but it's bright enough where 1661 01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,360 Speaker 1: I've run at night with it if I have a 1662 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 1: fresh set of batteries. But you can dim the light 1663 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:17,400 Speaker 1: on it. Um. It's called Storm. No Storm is a 1664 01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 1: bigger one, maybe called the eye on you're talking to 1665 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 1: you a little mini moment with retractable cord or that's 1666 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,120 Speaker 1: just no, no, no, that's my emergency one. It's the 1667 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 1: one that's got a little it's like it's operated by 1668 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:33,320 Speaker 1: by swiping and touching the face. Yeah, you don't like it, 1669 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:37,800 Speaker 1: but it's super small, super lightweight. You can lock it 1670 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,360 Speaker 1: so that doesn't come on in your pocket, which I like. Um, 1671 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,479 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's nice. And since we're on head lamps, 1672 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I carry one of those petsel Elites, which is I 1673 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,240 Speaker 1: don't know the size of the three quarters of an 1674 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: ounce super lightweight it runs. If you took a stack 1675 01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 1: of four or five quarters and stacked him up, that's 1676 01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,040 Speaker 1: about how big that little thing is. I keep one 1677 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:05,360 Speaker 1: of my kit runs on two CRWO batteries and surprisingly 1678 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,400 Speaker 1: bright like I've had. I think you've even borrowed at once. 1679 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:11,960 Speaker 1: You could use it as your primary light. Yeah, but 1680 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:13,680 Speaker 1: now and then you get into like when you're out, 1681 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,680 Speaker 1: you just get into some like crazy nighttime situations and 1682 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's nice to be all that if 1683 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:22,479 Speaker 1: you need to work into the night, yes, and not 1684 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,799 Speaker 1: have you know, not be button up against the darkness. 1685 01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,880 Speaker 1: Then you got an extra release. That's the thing, man, Like, 1686 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:34,479 Speaker 1: that's a real vulnerability. Very and those things get lost, 1687 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:39,160 Speaker 1: they do. Yeah. I haven't personally ever lost one, but 1688 01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 1: I definitely had clients over the years that lost them 1689 01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,640 Speaker 1: and wouldn't even have a replacement. At camp. You know, 1690 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I had time hike out and drive seventy miles by 1691 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: release there you go right there, carry the extra sevent 1692 01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 1: to get a release and they're not. Like, I couldn't 1693 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:57,720 Speaker 1: find the release I had, so I had to start 1694 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:02,360 Speaker 1: messing around. Yeah yeah, and shoot it. You know, I was. 1695 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,040 Speaker 1: I put in my notes here to shoot it because 1696 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, up until a week ago, I hadn't shot 1697 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,160 Speaker 1: my actually release for probably about a year. And uh, 1698 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,080 Speaker 1: it feels very similar, but it is different than my 1699 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 1: regular release. And you're so here's a little redundancy. You're 1700 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:26,600 Speaker 1: bringing some bear spray and you're forty four. Each of 1701 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 1: those things like, yeah, I see it. Uh, each of 1702 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,720 Speaker 1: those things is problematic. Anyone who's been hosed by bear 1703 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 1: spray and a bear spray accidental discharge, which I have 1704 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,639 Speaker 1: been done, it's like that makes you kind of hate 1705 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,639 Speaker 1: that stuff. But I'd rather get hold by an accidental 1706 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,640 Speaker 1: bear spray discharge an accidental forty four discharge. The guy 1707 01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,240 Speaker 1: in Colorado was just like, which doesn't even have grizzlies, 1708 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 1: So I'll never understand this. So I'm dude in Colorado. 1709 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,519 Speaker 1: It's like Scared of black Bears, tripped over a tent 1710 01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:53,960 Speaker 1: steak in the middle of night. He's going out to 1711 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:57,559 Speaker 1: take a growler in the morning, trips over a tent 1712 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,400 Speaker 1: steak and blows a hole through his own wrist. What 1713 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:06,120 Speaker 1: is his bear gun? I don't know. Yeah, everybody thinks 1714 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:11,720 Speaker 1: they're rambo man. It's like, yeah, yeah, I feel it 1715 01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:16,320 Speaker 1: is redundant. But recently some there was He was one 1716 01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,439 Speaker 1: guy I ain't two guys from malled and they were together. 1717 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Bow hunters are a high risk in Montana, and um, 1718 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,719 Speaker 1: I want to say that one of the bear sprays 1719 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:27,680 Speaker 1: didn't work and that was the guy that ended up 1720 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,360 Speaker 1: getting mauled. The other his body, you know, sprayed the 1721 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,160 Speaker 1: bear and eventually got the bear. Often, but the guy 1722 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,839 Speaker 1: ended up with you know, some ridiculous amount of stitches, 1723 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, but again it's neither more perfect. No, never, 1724 01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,479 Speaker 1: it's probably good to have a little redundancy. Their thing is, uh, 1725 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,639 Speaker 1: I can't remember the percentage of times, but oftentimes, when 1726 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 1: when a couple of guys are hunting together and one 1727 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 1: of them is getting mauled the other one of them, 1728 01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,439 Speaker 1: the guy that's getting mauled in addition to getting mauled 1729 01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 1: winds up getting shot. That does happen because people get 1730 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:03,800 Speaker 1: panicky and they're not trained up in that kind of 1731 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:08,720 Speaker 1: handgun use. Yeah, there's there's statistics, and they just did 1732 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,400 Speaker 1: this big metas. They just did this big like meta 1733 01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,680 Speaker 1: analysis of all these bear encounters over the years and 1734 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: what happened and who did what and what the what, 1735 01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 1: and people hate to hear it because people want to 1736 01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,000 Speaker 1: think that, like people want to think the handguns are 1737 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,400 Speaker 1: the answer to everything. Right, So when they did this 1738 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:29,799 Speaker 1: thing and they come out and say, like, statistically, pepper 1739 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,680 Speaker 1: spray is better, people get pissed because they act like 1740 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,680 Speaker 1: you're like, people get pissed because they act like this 1741 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: finding is somehow meant to be an attack on guns. Yeah, 1742 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,920 Speaker 1: so people can't even like hear it clearly, right. But 1743 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,800 Speaker 1: they're both imperfect. They're both imperfect. I don't know that 1744 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,240 Speaker 1: the answer is to have both with me, but they're 1745 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:59,799 Speaker 1: both imperfect. Yeah, And speaking of I think being smart, 1746 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,200 Speaker 1: trying in addition to everything else, trying to be very 1747 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 1: aware of your surroundings and also knowing how to behave 1748 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:15,280 Speaker 1: in the initial moments of a bear encounter are very important, 1749 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,120 Speaker 1: Like before it comes, before it's where you're shooting spray 1750 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,960 Speaker 1: at them, before it's when you're shooting guns at him 1751 01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:31,320 Speaker 1: and whatnot. There's like ways to behave in that initial moment, right, Yeah, 1752 01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,600 Speaker 1: And we have a lot of luck. You know, we 1753 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,120 Speaker 1: got false charged by a grizzly, but we have a lot, 1754 01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:40,760 Speaker 1: we run a lot of bears off. I think, yeah, 1755 01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,560 Speaker 1: just like being aware of the landscape that you're in, 1756 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,599 Speaker 1: and I think those tight close quarters sometimes of like timber. 1757 01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, like if you're near a grizzly barrier or 1758 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 1: something you know about to happen, like give the bear 1759 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: space to move around you, right, Like, don't get caught 1760 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,400 Speaker 1: in that spot where especially if you knew knew the 1761 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,400 Speaker 1: bear was there, that you're in like confined quarters, you know, 1762 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 1: with it, like obviously you can just walk through the 1763 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,639 Speaker 1: direction if you see one a couple hundred yards away, 1764 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:14,559 Speaker 1: you know, create space. If you create space, if it's 1765 01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,560 Speaker 1: far away, if it's up close, create space. But not 1766 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:22,160 Speaker 1: like a retreat. It's like the thing like the minute before. 1767 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:26,639 Speaker 1: Things are too tight to establish a very commanding presence. Yes, 1768 01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 1: a loud, big, tall, confident. If there's two guys, they're 1769 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:38,240 Speaker 1: standing close together, establishing a very commanding presence. You do 1770 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,240 Speaker 1: not want to come here. I'm not coming at you. 1771 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,880 Speaker 1: Like the human is not going at the bear like 1772 01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:48,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna go wrastle him. The human is not running 1773 01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,360 Speaker 1: away from the bear like it's a wounded elk running 1774 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,840 Speaker 1: off through the woods, but the human is being like 1775 01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:59,680 Speaker 1: I am here, I do not intend on moving right. Um, 1776 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,960 Speaker 1: but it's also different, man. And then you talk to 1777 01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:07,200 Speaker 1: people that do get scratched, and uh, sometimes it happens. 1778 01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:11,000 Speaker 1: There's no time to think. It's not like they like 1779 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,200 Speaker 1: tried this and tried that, which just all of a 1780 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 1: sudden's a bear chewing on them. Yeah. Um, but yeah, 1781 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,200 Speaker 1: so you got your bear spray and you're shooting iron 1782 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:28,479 Speaker 1: and your bow and arrow and your GPS. I'm still 1783 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna carry it. I know that now we can all 1784 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:34,200 Speaker 1: have our maps downloaded on our phones. I don't like 1785 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,040 Speaker 1: the battery life on phone though. Yeah, that's the problem 1786 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,960 Speaker 1: with it. You know, if I had this, if I 1787 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:40,920 Speaker 1: was able just to pop in a couple of fresh 1788 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:44,320 Speaker 1: batteries into my phone and again, I'll have a goal 1789 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,559 Speaker 1: zero charger which has two charges, and I know if 1790 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: I run it in the airplane mode, I can get 1791 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,599 Speaker 1: multiple days out of it. But I just don't trust 1792 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,280 Speaker 1: it yet. I like being able to take a couple 1793 01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,880 Speaker 1: of lithium double a's and told my GPS and have 1794 01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:02,599 Speaker 1: that thing on for forty eight hours if I want, uh, 1795 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,720 Speaker 1: you do use a paper map. Yeah, and again that's 1796 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 1: a redundancy. But you know, again the GPS could go down, 1797 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,200 Speaker 1: you could lose it, and it's you know, to sit 1798 01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,760 Speaker 1: and plot with someone else. Yeah, and just look at 1799 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:16,880 Speaker 1: a big picture. Yeah, it does help you get up. 1800 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,760 Speaker 1: It helps you, like spatially, even though you can go 1801 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,400 Speaker 1: look at everything on a GPS, it's like spatially, it's 1802 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,920 Speaker 1: sometimes nice to get a big picture view of where 1803 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 1: you're at. Yeah. And you know, if I was hunting, um, 1804 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,759 Speaker 1: like an area that i'd been hunting for five years 1805 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,760 Speaker 1: and just like a general zone that where I had 1806 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,880 Speaker 1: walked you know, almost every trail or over every knob 1807 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 1: and just knew it, I wouldn't need a map, you know, 1808 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,920 Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't even carry GPS. No, there's yeah, there's a 1809 01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:46,960 Speaker 1: lot of situations where I wouldn't be hunting, like large 1810 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 1: new areas. I always like to have a paper map 1811 01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,360 Speaker 1: were the main place I think I'm gonna be hunting, 1812 01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,680 Speaker 1: I haven't built as the center of the map. Um, 1813 01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:59,639 Speaker 1: wet wipes, but no TP just wet wipes. And actually 1814 01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,679 Speaker 1: what I lies on this, that's wrong. Okay, you can't 1815 01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,000 Speaker 1: burn them, No, I know, I know you don't like that, 1816 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:11,800 Speaker 1: but I bury him properly. And then you bring you 1817 01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:16,559 Speaker 1: bring a butt pad, like a sitting patch, sitting pad. Yeah, 1818 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 1: keep my butt dry, um. And I think it's multi use. 1819 01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:22,519 Speaker 1: You know, you could use it to put you know, 1820 01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,280 Speaker 1: food or you know, work some gear out on and 1821 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:27,439 Speaker 1: you know underneath the tarp. It's nice to have like 1822 01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:31,640 Speaker 1: a second place. It's off the ground. Um. And if 1823 01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,479 Speaker 1: we're taking a nap, you know you could it's like 1824 01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,640 Speaker 1: it's a little extra cushion in the woods. If you're 1825 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:38,679 Speaker 1: inter rock. Now, I carry one off. I just wouldn't 1826 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:40,439 Speaker 1: carry one on that trip. If I was doing a 1827 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 1: glassing intensive trip, i'd like to carry it. Then it 1828 01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,040 Speaker 1: depends on the ground. I just had one up from 1829 01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,040 Speaker 1: the tunder and I never used it because the tongs 1830 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,639 Speaker 1: are so comfortable to sit on. But it was dry, right, 1831 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I do, Yeah, I do like butt pads. 1832 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,559 Speaker 1: I like that little outdoorsman's back, that little outdoorsman's butt pad. 1833 01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 1: And I got just the place on my pack where 1834 01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,320 Speaker 1: I can kind of wedge it in perfectly. So you 1835 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:05,080 Speaker 1: got your hunting license. That's smart. Um. Smoking a bottle. 1836 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:07,519 Speaker 1: We already talked about that wind detector you are bringing 1837 01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,800 Speaker 1: your phone just for snapping pictures. You get a signal 1838 01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,920 Speaker 1: on top of mountain. You can check in and see 1839 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:18,040 Speaker 1: how the kids are doing. You gotta recharger. Um how 1840 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:19,800 Speaker 1: many charges can you get off on your phone off 1841 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:26,600 Speaker 1: that charger too? So personal hygiene many toothpaste, toothbrush with 1842 01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:28,479 Speaker 1: the handcut off, which I think is something people do. 1843 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 1: It's silly, but okay, Uh, extra contact lenses and then 1844 01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:39,880 Speaker 1: a little thing of bond or salt. That pepperminty bond 1845 01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,800 Speaker 1: or salt. Dude is a Yeah. When you're getting like 1846 01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,320 Speaker 1: itchy head and stuff after four or five days, that 1847 01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:49,439 Speaker 1: stuff resets the clock. Yep. Yeah, And you could use it, 1848 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, or if you had like a major you know, 1849 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,519 Speaker 1: like a butchering session, you know, and you're just like 1850 01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,360 Speaker 1: up to your elbows and blood and you just want 1851 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,080 Speaker 1: to clean up. Um. Yeah, And it's like it's a 1852 01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,360 Speaker 1: little bitty um it's like a one one use Like 1853 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,920 Speaker 1: it's like I don't know, it's like cardboard, but the 1854 01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:12,320 Speaker 1: insides line somehow. It probably has I don't know, close 1855 01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 1: to a tablespoon is soap in it, which for dr 1856 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:18,479 Speaker 1: Bees is a lot. Man. You hit. Uh, you hit 1857 01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,000 Speaker 1: the nether parts and uh, and you're nogging in a 1858 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,280 Speaker 1: little creek wash. You came away feeling like you've been 1859 01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,160 Speaker 1: back home for a couple of days. I love that stuff. 1860 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,840 Speaker 1: So then then in your outdoor research a little back 1861 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:35,400 Speaker 1: country organized er, you got a minimal first aid kit. Yep. 1862 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:39,680 Speaker 1: My general first aid kit is uh, like I mean, 1863 01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:45,240 Speaker 1: general first aid kit is triple antibiotic ointment, handful of 1864 01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:48,880 Speaker 1: band aids, gauze, and med tape. Yeah, there's only so 1865 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 1: much you're gonna be able to do, you know. I 1866 01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,519 Speaker 1: do have like a big rap um in there, and 1867 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 1: I have some of this stuff called combat gauze where 1868 01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,960 Speaker 1: god we're saying someone did take a shot wound or 1869 01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 1: a broad head you know, you know cross the armor 1870 01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,719 Speaker 1: like we basically have just like a major, major open wound. 1871 01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:11,479 Speaker 1: It's a um gauze that you wrap or or you 1872 01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 1: know you or that you put on the wound and 1873 01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,400 Speaker 1: then wrap you know, your bandage around it. But the 1874 01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,000 Speaker 1: gauze itself has a clouding agent in it. Yeah. I 1875 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,000 Speaker 1: used to carry the packets. Yeah, of the clouding agent 1876 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,600 Speaker 1: stuff with that stuff expires pretty quickly, Like you'll have 1877 01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:28,200 Speaker 1: your pack for you then realize it's all crystallized to one. 1878 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:30,360 Speaker 1: If you carry it, you gotta keep up on it. 1879 01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, if you had like a major blood incident, 1880 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,560 Speaker 1: it's good to have. But if you're gonna do it, 1881 01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 1: make sure that it's that you're renewing it all the 1882 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,880 Speaker 1: time because they do go bad. Um sometimes I have 1883 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:46,240 Speaker 1: to carry with me just depends is um depending on 1884 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:51,439 Speaker 1: where I'm at, uh EpiPen panophlactic shock just because of 1885 01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 1: certain insects and stuff. Good thing to mention, I think 1886 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,960 Speaker 1: there's like the small drugs in that first aid kit 1887 01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,880 Speaker 1: or what could really help you and keep you out 1888 01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:01,760 Speaker 1: to or longer. Like you the other day gave me 1889 01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,800 Speaker 1: I had like I started to get a sour belly 1890 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,000 Speaker 1: when we're on Prince of Wales and you gave me 1891 01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:09,720 Speaker 1: an emodium a D and one pill cured me. That's 1892 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,439 Speaker 1: all it took. Yeah, I carry and for and I 1893 01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 1: just buy boxes of the little single serves because they've 1894 01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:19,160 Speaker 1: got a good protective coating on them. I carry a 1895 01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:24,200 Speaker 1: handful of ibuprofen packs, just little single serving things. There's 1896 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:28,240 Speaker 1: a pocket my organized your wedgement, a couple packs idprofen, 1897 01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:32,240 Speaker 1: a couple of packs of Thailand all an emodium a 1898 01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:37,680 Speaker 1: D type thing, and then a anihissed A means a 1899 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,240 Speaker 1: good one type thing. And then I carry in my 1900 01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,479 Speaker 1: kid too. I was talking about in my little medicate 1901 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:43,960 Speaker 1: and my medicate, like I said, it's the size of 1902 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,479 Speaker 1: like it's smaller than a much smaller than a wallet, 1903 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,040 Speaker 1: a couple of band aids, a couple of gauze strips, 1904 01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 1: a really small thing of med tape, but also carry 1905 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,920 Speaker 1: a handful of alcohol swabs to clean out cuts. And 1906 01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:58,559 Speaker 1: again it's like it's like nothing, you know what I mean. 1907 01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:00,360 Speaker 1: It was like sounds like a lot. Add it up. 1908 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 1: You put it all together just like a little it's 1909 01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,400 Speaker 1: like a little teeny plastic envelope. And this whole thing 1910 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:08,519 Speaker 1: fits into an organizer. That's I mean, how big is 1911 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:14,040 Speaker 1: the organized like a sandwich? Yeah, there's sandwich mine. Actually 1912 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:18,120 Speaker 1: if you if you, if I overload it with things like, um, 1913 01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,920 Speaker 1: it won't be for this hunt, but let's just say 1914 01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:25,080 Speaker 1: for another hunt and put in like a choke wrench, 1915 01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:29,519 Speaker 1: and then the the boar snake for cleaning out a 1916 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:31,479 Speaker 1: you know gun. If you have any channel in the 1917 01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,680 Speaker 1: mud or something, it can get over a pound like 1918 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:36,960 Speaker 1: it can have to have some weight to it. But 1919 01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 1: for this hunt, it will be roughly around a pound, 1920 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,639 Speaker 1: you know. Um. But yeah, on top of the first 1921 01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 1: aid kit, there'll be uh the emergency survival kit which 1922 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:54,160 Speaker 1: you know firestarter um in there. Um I have and 1923 01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,679 Speaker 1: I'm running the h I have two fire starts. Actually, 1924 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,960 Speaker 1: I do have some cotton balls of asilene, and then 1925 01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,240 Speaker 1: I also have these little just one these they're called 1926 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:07,400 Speaker 1: Esbet fuel cubes, and you like, the guys will steal those. Yeah, 1927 01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,120 Speaker 1: so you gotta be careful if it's your main kid 1928 01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:13,720 Speaker 1: that ever goes everywhere with you, careful because they don't 1929 01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,920 Speaker 1: like them. Yeah, but that thing burns I think like 1930 01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 1: twelve or fifteen minutes, Like it goes. It's supposed to 1931 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,880 Speaker 1: be using like a cooking system, but it's a little 1932 01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,320 Speaker 1: cube and you just sit there and like I forget 1933 01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,760 Speaker 1: like the heat that it produced. It's a lot. But 1934 01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:30,080 Speaker 1: like in a shitty wet you know, fire building situation, 1935 01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,680 Speaker 1: you'd have like a flame that just basically sat there 1936 01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,040 Speaker 1: for twelve minutes as you try to like build a 1937 01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:36,800 Speaker 1: fire around. Yeah. Yeah, I know they're nice to have. 1938 01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:38,759 Speaker 1: My kid is like I take one of dirt myths 1939 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:42,120 Speaker 1: chew tins. And that's kind of dual purpose because I 1940 01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,240 Speaker 1: take cat cotton balls, rub vast lene to impact them 1941 01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:46,719 Speaker 1: in there, then put a couple of seed or knots 1942 01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,840 Speaker 1: in there, and that's my like fire kid. And you 1943 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 1: got like a little vast lane backup, and depending on 1944 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:52,680 Speaker 1: where I'm at, I'll pull that thing in and out, 1945 01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:56,240 Speaker 1: depending just general conditions like if I'm you know, if 1946 01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm hunting down in New Mexico, I'm probably not carrying them, 1947 01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:02,240 Speaker 1: right because the lighters all you need. Yeah, because you 1948 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,120 Speaker 1: know you got you can be able to pull it 1949 01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,120 Speaker 1: together if you're in an area that's just like impossible. 1950 01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,599 Speaker 1: Southeast Alaska. I got a fire kit. Um. So it's 1951 01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:11,719 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, you got a lot of the stuff. 1952 01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:13,400 Speaker 1: You just gotta make calls on all the time. Yeah. 1953 01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,080 Speaker 1: I have like a little there's like a little super 1954 01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:20,000 Speaker 1: mini compass in there. Um. I don't carry a big compass, 1955 01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,720 Speaker 1: just you know, in my pocket, so it's in there. Um. 1956 01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:26,920 Speaker 1: There's like a little lot of fishing line a hook, um. 1957 01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,280 Speaker 1: But again it's super super small. Um. But the other 1958 01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:37,360 Speaker 1: things in the backcountry organizer that like my spare lighters 1959 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,680 Speaker 1: will be in there. The stuff called tenacious tape, which 1960 01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,360 Speaker 1: is basically a little piece of that. It's like uh 1961 01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:47,439 Speaker 1: reinforced nylon tape that. Um, it's like a patch for 1962 01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,840 Speaker 1: if you rip it like your outer shell or you know. Yeah, 1963 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 1: I carry the back form where it's like basically it's 1964 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,840 Speaker 1: like having a square of paper in your bag. It's 1965 01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,760 Speaker 1: just one patch. It's like a two inch circle that 1966 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:01,840 Speaker 1: tuck somewhere in my little kit and you can fix 1967 01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:04,679 Speaker 1: stuff with it, and it's good to have. And again 1968 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:06,760 Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing where depending what's going on, 1969 01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,120 Speaker 1: you pull it in and out. Um, I do carry 1970 01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 1: a little teeny baggy. You gotta hear extra batteries. It's 1971 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,880 Speaker 1: good to like line your stuff up, line your gear 1972 01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,719 Speaker 1: up to that. It all is using the same stuff 1973 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,040 Speaker 1: as much as you can. Yeah, unfortunately I don't have that. 1974 01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,400 Speaker 1: I got triple a's in my head lamp. I got 1975 01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:29,120 Speaker 1: double as in my GPS, and then the stery pen 1976 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,280 Speaker 1: runs on the I think it's a CR one Yeah, 1977 01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:36,200 Speaker 1: so I use a CR one to three flashlight. And 1978 01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,160 Speaker 1: then I got my head lamp runs on the c 1979 01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:43,040 Speaker 1: R one two three as well, So I'm sorry. My 1980 01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:45,799 Speaker 1: my head lamp and my sterry pen run the same battery, 1981 01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,360 Speaker 1: and I used to try. I always try to bounce 1982 01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,040 Speaker 1: around and get it right. You always bought it with 1983 01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:51,720 Speaker 1: some outlier item that they don't make that way by 1984 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,640 Speaker 1: Jerry like to try to like duplicate up. So I 1985 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 1: got a couple of extra batteries with me that work 1986 01:44:55,520 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 1: for various different things. Um. Then you got orange flagging tape. Again, 1987 01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:02,800 Speaker 1: very small. You take like ten ft of that and 1988 01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:04,360 Speaker 1: roll up in the little ball. It's like the tip 1989 01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:08,439 Speaker 1: of your pinky finger. Great to have, especially hunting by yourself. 1990 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:14,759 Speaker 1: You take a shot, hang that tape where you were standing, 1991 01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:19,519 Speaker 1: march over to where you know the animals standing, hang 1992 01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,599 Speaker 1: a piece of tape. When you find first blood, mark 1993 01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,519 Speaker 1: that with the tape, and again it will be redundant 1994 01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,560 Speaker 1: because now I pretty much do all of that with 1995 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,960 Speaker 1: my GPS. But man, is it easier to look over 1996 01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,559 Speaker 1: your shoulder and be like, oh, there's especially when you're 1997 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,479 Speaker 1: like on a shitty blood shilling you're trying to figure 1998 01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:39,200 Speaker 1: out like a general direction of travel possibly and you 1999 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,840 Speaker 1: can look back and say, oh, I can see kind 2000 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 1: of like a corridor that the elk could run through, 2001 01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:47,240 Speaker 1: you know from where I am. Now you know stuff 2002 01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:49,040 Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, and if you're hunt, like like if 2003 01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,960 Speaker 1: you take if you take a three yard poke at 2004 01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,920 Speaker 1: something in rough cut ground, you like go running over there, 2005 01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 1: which shouldn't. Don't run over there, take your time figure 2006 01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:58,639 Speaker 1: out what's going on. But you go over there, can't 2007 01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:01,479 Speaker 1: figure out what was happening where it was, and then 2008 01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,519 Speaker 1: you realize that you lost track of where you were 2009 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:10,479 Speaker 1: standing or laying down. That's when trouble starts. Because when 2010 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,200 Speaker 1: you mark your location with something to tape whatever you 2011 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 1: leave there ta I like tape, a lot, anything, a 2012 01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,120 Speaker 1: piece of clothing, mark that spot because then when you 2013 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:19,360 Speaker 1: go over there and you're like, I think it was 2014 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,200 Speaker 1: right here, but I can't find any hair, no blood, 2015 01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,439 Speaker 1: no nothing, And then you're like where where where was 2016 01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 1: that Again? If you mark it, you'll go back there 2017 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,040 Speaker 1: and you'll look and you'll remember it was right there. 2018 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,240 Speaker 1: You need, like you have to plan on worst case 2019 01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,680 Speaker 1: scenario when it comes to reconstructing something. If you've got 2020 01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:37,519 Speaker 1: two guys is great because one guy stays putting, one 2021 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,280 Speaker 1: guy goes over there, and the guy that stays putting 2022 01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,000 Speaker 1: direct you right to where that thing was. If you 2023 01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:45,320 Speaker 1: buy yourself, you gotta have a plan. Um. Then you 2024 01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:50,320 Speaker 1: got we already talked about a backup head lamp, and 2025 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:54,560 Speaker 1: you can't A little minithing is super clue. Yeah, I 2026 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:56,320 Speaker 1: just feel like that should be leaking everywhere, making my 2027 01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:58,519 Speaker 1: stuff all gluey. No, it's like a you know, it's 2028 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:02,280 Speaker 1: always a brand new one, this unopened um and it's 2029 01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,040 Speaker 1: like a little mini deal. It's it says one time 2030 01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,280 Speaker 1: you used but I mean like there's nothing there where 2031 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:10,400 Speaker 1: you could use it a few times. But UM cuts man, 2032 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:13,120 Speaker 1: or even like you know, when you're working with blood 2033 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,639 Speaker 1: a lot, your hands dry out and I'll get these 2034 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,280 Speaker 1: just wicked cuts that will not heal and I'll just 2035 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,880 Speaker 1: clean it out and super glue like cut. I've never 2036 01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,120 Speaker 1: tried it by no people made it works. Yeah, it 2037 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,080 Speaker 1: works great. Alright. So run down, run down like your 2038 01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:32,519 Speaker 1: food for like bad country hunting. Yeah, super basic. UM 2039 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 1: breakfast is gonna be Uh. This is this new uh 2040 01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:40,840 Speaker 1: instant oman we found called Umquats and it's like a 2041 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:45,280 Speaker 1: hundred times better than the Quaker stuff. Yeah, it's like 2042 01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:49,120 Speaker 1: not like all nasty sugary crap. Yeah this Yeah, the 2043 01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:52,560 Speaker 1: Quaker is like eating like a freaking candy bar or 2044 01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,400 Speaker 1: maybe even worse for breakfast. And it's just I always 2045 01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,599 Speaker 1: feel like with Quaker, it's like thirty minutes later, I'm like, oh, 2046 01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm hungry. You should eat a bar. These unquote oats 2047 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:02,519 Speaker 1: or legita. You can get ones that have like a 2048 01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,160 Speaker 1: mix with like keen one other grains and stuff in them, 2049 01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:09,599 Speaker 1: but like a skeptical that first, but it's very good man. Um. 2050 01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,400 Speaker 1: But sometimes I'll have a bar in there too, or 2051 01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:14,800 Speaker 1: I'll have a bar soon on, you know, in the morning, 2052 01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:20,320 Speaker 1: and then the Starbucks via coffee um launch and snacks 2053 01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:26,439 Speaker 1: pro bars and snickers for for the Starbucks via coffee, 2054 01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,479 Speaker 1: I was like, carry little non dairy cream or two 2055 01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,120 Speaker 1: this kind of guy I am. Man, Yeah, yeah, like 2056 01:48:31,240 --> 01:48:36,200 Speaker 1: your coffee white UM Launch. So I'm not doing any 2057 01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,320 Speaker 1: kind of sandwiches. I'm gonna have like a sandwich for 2058 01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,840 Speaker 1: day one. It's gonna be like heavy and packed in, 2059 01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,000 Speaker 1: but no real sandwich is gonna be Launch is gonna 2060 01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:48,000 Speaker 1: be very snacky. Um. So I'll have like a little 2061 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:51,519 Speaker 1: bit of slammy, some cheese, maybe like a banana and 2062 01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,000 Speaker 1: a baguette for the first day because it's something that's 2063 01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:55,840 Speaker 1: gonna be eating the first day and we'll be gone 2064 01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:01,960 Speaker 1: after that. It's gonna be bars, jerky Um custom trail mix. 2065 01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,479 Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. Yeah, I just got to survive 2066 01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,240 Speaker 1: on that and the Chicken Bully on cubes just for 2067 01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,559 Speaker 1: at night with hot water to drink, yeah, or yeah, 2068 01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,600 Speaker 1: if it's cold and shitty mill a day, Yeah, you 2069 01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:15,040 Speaker 1: heat heat up some water, put a little Chicken Bully 2070 01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:18,599 Speaker 1: on cuban there and it's uh, yeah, it's very nice. 2071 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,680 Speaker 1: And then for dinner you're going with the house, going 2072 01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:22,000 Speaker 1: to the house, and then a should chase that with 2073 01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:25,960 Speaker 1: a candy bar. And then uh, I've been having a 2074 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,519 Speaker 1: lot of cramps recently, and so I've been Uh I 2075 01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:31,320 Speaker 1: got this stuff called Noon Electro Lights. There's coming like 2076 01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,719 Speaker 1: a handy little vial. I think there's ten or twelve 2077 01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:36,760 Speaker 1: of the deals in there. So I'm gonna try to 2078 01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,640 Speaker 1: drink one of these electro light tablets every day. He 2079 01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:41,439 Speaker 1: dissolve in the water and you know, it gives your 2080 01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,519 Speaker 1: water a little flavor to which is nice. But try 2081 01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,840 Speaker 1: to keep my cramps down in my calves. And then 2082 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:51,720 Speaker 1: a stick of salted butter. I'm packing that extra calories. Man, 2083 01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:56,320 Speaker 1: there's like a few things that have more calories. But yeah, 2084 01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,680 Speaker 1: and then also this time here you find a lot 2085 01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:02,040 Speaker 1: of eats. And it's nice to have a little butter 2086 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,639 Speaker 1: because you find you find like legit clean bleats out there, 2087 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, one of the better mushrooms out Um. Then 2088 01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,360 Speaker 1: you got your first day food. It was just your 2089 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,280 Speaker 1: heavy jump just start out right. Yeah, so you know, yeah, 2090 01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,720 Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a heavier load. And I 2091 01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:20,880 Speaker 1: think you're roughly looking at to two pounds of food 2092 01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,519 Speaker 1: a day to get the calories that you need. Um, 2093 01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:28,679 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll be looking at you know, fifteen pounds 2094 01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,160 Speaker 1: of food roughly. But yeah, that it's nice to have 2095 01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 1: like just normal food one more day until you just 2096 01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:37,600 Speaker 1: go into full on like barn mountain house mode, you know. 2097 01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:40,800 Speaker 1: And we don't. I had to get into the depth here, 2098 01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,320 Speaker 1: but I figured just because we were talking about all 2099 01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:43,880 Speaker 1: this stuff, we're gonna be caring. I'm gonna be carrying 2100 01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,160 Speaker 1: in the woods. I know people are wondering, right what 2101 01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm carrying for my bow and archery, you know, other 2102 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:54,200 Speaker 1: archery equipment. And uh so it's a prime centergy bow, 2103 01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:59,720 Speaker 1: um eastern full metal jackets, very heavy. Total airrowweight for 2104 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:04,280 Speaker 1: me is like five thirty five um grains, which is 2105 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, well over a hundred grains heavy than a 2106 01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:12,200 Speaker 1: lot of people shoot grains. Slick trick? What's that? The 2107 01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:16,439 Speaker 1: slick trick? It's just a it's similar to like the muzzy, 2108 01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:19,960 Speaker 1: which which muzzy is that? But it's basically like a 2109 01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:25,240 Speaker 1: imagine a field point with a sharp actually a sharp 2110 01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:27,920 Speaker 1: like chiseled point on it, and then it's got uh 2111 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:32,479 Speaker 1: slots cut through it, and so you put a blade 2112 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,679 Speaker 1: through it this way, you know, and then another blade 2113 01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,120 Speaker 1: crosses it like there's a slot in the yourself. Yeah, 2114 01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:42,880 Speaker 1: which is nice because it's got replaceable blades. So if 2115 01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:44,720 Speaker 1: I have so, I can carry like two sets of 2116 01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,200 Speaker 1: replaceable blades, which I will, and so in case that 2117 01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,080 Speaker 1: it's a four bladed, yeah, it's a four bladed fixed 2118 01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:55,120 Speaker 1: four bladed and um yeah, super super sharp and that's 2119 01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:56,720 Speaker 1: a nice thing I like about. And I happened to 2120 01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,320 Speaker 1: missing elk and you know, shot one into the dirt. 2121 01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,280 Speaker 1: I could just take out those two blades, replace it 2122 01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:07,160 Speaker 1: with two freshies, and I've got it, you know, super yeah, 2123 01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,280 Speaker 1: ready to go. And then he got your release. Yeah, 2124 01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 1: so I think it's called the Eaty Beattie Goose Scott Release. 2125 01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,519 Speaker 1: It's old. It's you guys, used to have those, and 2126 01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,280 Speaker 1: not I got were spot hogs, but I used to 2127 01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,400 Speaker 1: have that. I used to use that Scott release all time. 2128 01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:26,760 Speaker 1: All right, that's Yanni's backpack. Man. Is that exciting? It is? Man, 2129 01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:30,519 Speaker 1: he's going on a hunting trip, hunting trip without Steve. 2130 01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:34,639 Speaker 1: He I didn't even I didn't even invite Steve. That's 2131 01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,360 Speaker 1: because I know his schedule. I look at steve calendar 2132 01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,679 Speaker 1: every day, so I know that couldn't invite him anyway. 2133 01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,600 Speaker 1: To bring it full circle, I feel as Uh is 2134 01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: jealous as one of my kids went fishing with another man. 2135 01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,000 Speaker 1: All Right, man, thanks tuning in