1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: The fields at A Brook proudly presents Puddle Up with 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, j P Shadrick, John Ojer and NFL Network 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: analyst and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: on George Jackson pill jack Ar. We've got to look 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: to the draft, We've got to look for developing the 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: guys that are currently here, and obviously Utan is running 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: of these guys. As we can. Huddle Up With Bucky 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Brooks starts right now. All right, welcome into the Huddle 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Up podcast for Wednesday, March twenty second. This is John 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: Oser along with NFL Networking, Jaguars Media Network handles Bucky Brooks. 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: You can give us a listen on the podcast page 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: at Jaguars dot com or on the official Jaguars podcast network, 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Bucky, 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: it's you and me. Buddy. No JP shatter today, he 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: had no JP. So what we're doing is we go 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: try a new tandem. Is j O and BB seen 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: if we can hold it down without JP, and we'll 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: see what this looks like. We'll see, let's see how 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: this sounds, Let's see how we kind of handle it 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: without the point guard available, because it may change the 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: way we go about running the offense. I like the 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: I like the March Madness reference with the point guard. 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Now who you got the rest of the way, But 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: who's winning the tournament? Well, you know what, John, I'm 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna tell you. And look, I'm gonna apologize to the 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: listeners in advance. I'm on my phone because I'm sitting 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: here in NFL Media studios getting ready to do Ohio 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: State's pro deck. But I'm gonna tell you it's Look, 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: it's a It's a fantastic time for me as a 30 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: tar Heel fan. All of my hopes, wishes, and desires 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: were for Field. Last weekend. I saw the Mighty Blue 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: Devils go down. I actually saw anc State the wolf 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Back go down. Almost all of the teams are the 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: acc are out of it. So now I can just 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: watch in peace and enjoy the rest of the tournament 36 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: because none of my nemesis are going to win the title. 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: See I remember this from my day. I still followed Carolina, 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: but back when I was in college, I was a 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: huge Carolina fan. Went to school up there for a year, 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: not there, but another school, and I do remember the 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: bitterness and the pettiness of Tar Hill fans was always strong, 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: and I see you still got that. Like they're out 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: of it. It's almost good. It's almost as good for 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: you when Duke loses, isn't it. Not all the time, 45 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: but just this particular time, because what I didn't want 46 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: to happen was, you know, they kind of paid it 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: back for last year when we beat them coach a 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: senior nighte. We also sent them out in the final four. 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: So the thing that couldn't happen was for them to 50 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: win the ACC tournament and then go back and win 51 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: the national title while Carolina is sitting out. We could 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: not have that, so I only rooted against them this year. 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Normally doesn't bother me at all, but this year I 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: certainly wanted them to go home. And anytime NC State 55 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: goes home, it is always a wonderful day for me. Okay, 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: I got you. So you hate NC State more than Duke. 57 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, I hate them all, to be honest. But 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: if the state it's in my hometown, right, it's your hometown, right, Yeah, 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: that's my hometown I grew up. Everyone wanted to go there. 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: A lot of my high school buddies went there and 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: so I never really dug it, and so they've been 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: kind of a rival for me personally. It's also surround 63 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: for Carolina and in Duke the robbery is in Kent 64 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: primarily because of the basketball thing. So all of those 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: schools are in the triangle, so within thirty miles apart. 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, you don't want any of those schools to 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: do well because then you got to hear about it 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: all the time all right. Time to turn, obviously to 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars free agency, and I guess that's why we're talking 70 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: into LA tournaments so much. There there is uh scarce 71 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: little news in Jaguars free agency. I get why they're 72 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: doing that. I like that approach, Bucky. I know you're 73 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: an NFL guy, so you understand it. Just to recap 74 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: some news earlier this week, Jaguars did resign cornerback Trey Herndon. 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: They did resign defensive tackle Adam Gotsis this fall, those 76 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: resigning Andrew Wingard last week, and CJ. Bethard Evan Ingram's 77 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: tagged JA Michael Hasty has resigned. So they brought guys back, 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: but they lost Juan Taylor to the Chiefs, lost Chris 79 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: man Hurts to the Broncos, and most notably since we talked, 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: Bucky lost arden Key to the Titans. You know, everybody's 81 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: freaking out over this, every ozone email I get now, 82 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: and he was okay when they didn't sign Juan they 83 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: understood Man Hurts and the arden Key thing got to people. 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Bucky and people are panickings saying what are they doing? 85 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: Reason for concern expected what's your take on this? I 86 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: will say that arden Key was just being on the sideline. 87 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: He was a great leader on the field. He did 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: a really good job of like helping the young guys, 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: pulling them together. He brought energy to the team. He 90 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: certainly had the making for the appearance of being a 91 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: glue guy. Now, a lot of people would look at 92 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: the box scorn and say, hey, well, he didn't really 93 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: impact the team because he only had what's twenty half sacks. 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: It's not like he's a double sector. But there is 95 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: value to having what I call those core guys, those 96 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: guys who kind of understand when the step up and 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: say certain thing when it needs to be said. Guys 98 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: who also have the capacity to make plays when a 99 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: play is there to be made and even though he 100 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: may not kind of be like the old school Tony 101 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Brackens of Kevin Hardy or big time player like Kalis Campbell, 102 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: he certainly was a very important piece of the posal 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: last year and so that will need to be replaced. 104 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the Jaguars can't move on because 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: Art and ki Is no longer are part of it, 106 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: but it will take someone a veteran to kind of 107 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: step up and feel some of the void that will 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: be created by his departure. Here's my thought on this, Buck, 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: when you talk about that, and I agree with you 110 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: about Arden, I think he wanted to stay from some 111 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: of his comments this week. I think he was a 112 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: little hurt that it didn't work out that he stayed. 113 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: But I also get it from the Jaguars perspective. They've 114 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: got contracts coming up, and they've got to get back 115 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: to being draft and developed. They have to get everything 116 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: in order, if you follow me. But as a you know, 117 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: here's the thing about Arden. A week end to free 118 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: agency last year, they hadn't signed arden Key yet he 119 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: was a second tier guy one year contract. They went 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: out and filled a gap in free agency with a 121 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: savvy offseason move. You know, that's sort of what you 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: have to do every year now, right, don't they just 123 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: have to sort of do that again at that spot, 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: either through the draft or maybe even third tier free agency. 125 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, I guess on paper, I think you should 126 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: be able to go out and get the three or 127 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: four sacks that they lost with him, Although I also 128 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: get your point. I don't know that you replace what 129 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: he brought on the sidelines, But I just mean in 130 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: terms of as you move forward, when you lose a 131 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: guy like that, it's sort of the role of the 132 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: GM to figure out how to replace it, just like 133 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: they did last year when they got him. Yeah, I 134 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: mean it is on the gym, it's on trym ball, kids, 135 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: on Doug Peterson to kinda identify and find those guys 136 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: that can kill those those roles. I will say that 137 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: the one thing about leadership is you never know who's 138 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: actually going to be your leader. As much as we 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: like to think leaders are the best players, a lot 140 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: of times they're not. They're the guys that do the 141 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: dirty work that no one else wants to do, but 142 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: they're willing to do it because it helps the team. 143 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: And so I understand why Arton was hurt because being 144 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: on the sideline watching him in the locker room. But man, 145 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: I really felt like he was a guy that was 146 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: really a Jaguar. It didn't work out. They couldn't agree 147 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: to terms, and so now you have to turn to 148 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: page and so the bitterness that he feels. Look, there 149 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: are plenty of players that I have there. They're plenty 150 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: of guys that want to continue to be on the 151 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: team that are no longer there, and so you kind 152 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: of have to get over that. But I will say 153 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: from the Jaguars perspective, it's going to be really important 154 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: to find a guy that can do what he does, 155 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: not only in the locker room in terms of the 156 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: leadership is at an example, but also in terms of 157 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: being able to be that personal player that could play 158 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: inside and outside and give you the kind of production 159 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: I guess the run and the past if he was 160 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: able to provide and you know what Buck I mean again, 161 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I got to new Ardon a little bit. He was 162 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: on a new his own podcast late in that I 163 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: really like the guy. But it'll also be I mean, 164 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: it's okay for him to be sort of a chip 165 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: on the shoulder that he left. It's okay for that 166 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: to add a little spice to the rival. Isn't this 167 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be kind of fun on that front sometimes, Bucky? Well, absolutely, 168 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the support of the deal. It 169 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: should be a little contentious. There is always going to 170 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: be some back and forth when one player leads to 171 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: go to division rival and you have an opportunity to 172 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: see them a couple of times a year. The fact that, look, 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: there's already history between the Jaguars and Tennessee Titans. The 174 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: fact that we knocked him off to go into the 175 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: postseason while they had to go home. Man, you have 176 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: the added layer where Arden he will make it a 177 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: very personal deal, but everyone who plays their formular team 178 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: makes it personal. It'd be a situation that we'll get 179 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: a lot of conversation maybe leading up to the game. Well, 180 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: once it's kicked off, it shouldn't have to be the 181 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: impact something you said, I just sort of struck me, 182 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe I'm just dim and I missed it. 183 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: But for years we talked about here about the Titans 184 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: being arrival of the Jaguars, but the reality is they 185 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: hadn't beaten him in five years. It really wasn't much 186 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: of a rivalry. What's a rivalry now with you know, 187 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: with this happening with the game at the end of 188 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: last season, you've make the argument this is, you know, 189 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: as good as this rivalry has been maybe in twenty years. 190 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean now, with apologies twenty seventeen, the Titans beat 191 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: the Jags twice that year. Uh, you know, so maybe 192 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: that year counts, But I would say the games next 193 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: year are going to be as emotional in this rivalry 194 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: as they've been you know, maybe twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, 195 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: but this is going to go back to the nineties. Now. Oh, 196 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: it should absolutely be pretty spicy. And I mean that's 197 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: what you want. And if you're the Jaguars, like that's 198 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: kind of part of the process. Part of the process 199 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: when you become a really good team and a team 200 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: that as a perennial playoff contender, is you go from 201 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: being to feel good story to the team that everyone 202 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: loves you to something you become the team that people 203 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: hate you. And so we're not quite there yet. But 204 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: as you begin to win and as you begin to 205 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: have success, people as much as Americans love successful entities, 206 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: they also hate them. And so there's gonna be some 207 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: of that bitterness, and I think everybody in Jacksonville has 208 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: to be okay with that, Like that's a part of 209 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: the deal. When you're a good team, everybody's not going 210 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: to love you and take comedy tea. We'll probably look 211 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: back on the stiff arm by Trevor up in Nashville 212 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: at it as the moment when this rivalry really started 213 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: up again. Oh absolutely, yeah. I mean I think that 214 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: that certainly will have a lot to do with that 215 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: part of when you think about just what the Jags 216 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: were able to do going to the playoffs, doing all 217 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: that other stuff, knocking them off the way that we 218 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: knock them off. Oh yeah, that's the fun part. So yeah, 219 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, my guy will be a little bitter, he'd 220 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: be upset, but it's fine. Art Key was a good player. 221 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: He made great contributions. But we'll figure it out. Here's 222 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: my thing, and we'll go to break in a minute. 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: As much as I like arden I just feel like 224 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be able to replace a player on 225 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: the level of arden Key. He's a very good player, 226 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: very valuable player. But that's sort of the art and 227 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: the story of each team each year. Somebody knew has 228 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: to come along and replace that leadership that he gave. 229 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Replace those sacks. Good teams are able to replace that 230 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: when they lose that each offseason. It's a storyline. But 231 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: to me, Bucky, I don't think it should be one 232 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't be able to overcome. So, yeah, look, 233 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: it's a storyline, but you're absolutely right, UH should be 234 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: able to overcome. It shouldn't be that big of a deal. 235 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: Should be one where you can find a way to 236 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: get it done without him. But it does put the 237 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: onus on somebody, an older player, to take on some 238 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: of the leadership responsibilities. All right, I got it. I 239 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: guess I'm special coming for you, Bucky. I have a read. 240 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: One's gonna do a read now. That's okay, that's radio terms. 241 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: So here we go. The twenty twenty three season is 242 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: on the horizon and you won't want to miss it. 243 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: Walk in your seats at the bank this fall by 244 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: placing your deposit at Jaguars dot com back slash tickets. 245 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: Seat selection is coming soon and the perfect spot is 246 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: waiting for you. Don't watch the Jags become the Kings 247 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: of the Jungle from your couch. Join the Jaguars now 248 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: more after this. All right, welcome back to the huddle 249 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: of podcast, Bucky. What do you think? How does that read? 250 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean great, that was one of the best read. 251 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: Uh that be bad? I mean I think I think 252 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: you should probably do more of that stuff. I think 253 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: I think you've done a really good job of putting 254 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: that together. So maybe you and JP can alternate some 255 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: of the leagues. Yeah, we're not gonna do that, but 256 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: I am gonna do more of that stuff right now 257 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: with the second read of broadcast. Uh, here we go, Bucky. Uh, 258 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: pin your ears back for this one. 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On a serious note, 268 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: has your opinion of this team changed it all based 269 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: on what they did or didn't do in free agency. 270 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: And I know it was quiet, but did you expect more? 271 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Are your thoughts different now than maybe they were two 272 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago? No? I mean, I think when you're a 273 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: good team, free agency is a spot where you go 274 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: and you accentuate what you already had in the fold. 275 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: When you go back and you look at the way 276 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are constructed, you cannot talk about free agency 277 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: in the offseason without talking about Calvin Ridley coming on 278 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: board with the mid season trade. Didn't see the fruits 279 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: of the trade right away, but we'll have an opportunity 280 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: to see it this year. You talk about a premier 281 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver, a guy who was a true number one receiver. 282 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: He is an upgrade. You now take him and add 283 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: it to Evan Ingram coming back on the franchise tag. 284 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Christian Kirks, A Jones are already in the building. You 285 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: have Trevor Lawrence, Trevis Nisien already in the fold. Like 286 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: this offense is ready to go. I know everyone is 287 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: upset about losing Juwan Taylor, and Jiwan Taylor was a 288 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: great player. He really played well this season. But if 289 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: you've done this thing the right way, and you draft 290 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: and developed, what this is time for Walker little to 291 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: slide into that spot. You know, took him two years 292 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: ago as a second round pick. He's had opportunity to 293 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: start and to play in a spot role. Well, now 294 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: it's a chance for him to step up and feel 295 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: that boy. And so if he's done what he's supposed 296 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: to do and the team is doing what they're supposed 297 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: to do in terms of building it the right way, 298 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: we shouldn't feel any of those teams. And then when 299 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: it comes to the defense, you need the draft pick 300 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, Treyvon Walker, you think about Chad Mooman, those 301 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: guys have to step up. They were drafted early because 302 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: they respected to be foundational pieces. Well now they have 303 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: to play at a high level. And so if they 304 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: developed like we think they will, then there was no 305 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: need for the Jaguars to be very, very active in 306 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: free agency because they can answer all of their questions 307 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: by finding players on their roster to be able to 308 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: take care of those things. Something you said earlier brings 309 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: me to a question I was going to ask you. Um, 310 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm at Ridley a little bit in the offense, 311 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: the off season program begins and about about four weeks, 312 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: say four weeks. What's going on now specifically with coaching 313 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: to prepare for that? And what I'm getting at is, 314 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: are they sitting there looking at Calvin Ridley's skill set 315 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: designing things specifically for him? Are they taking things out 316 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: of the offense based on what didn't work last year, 317 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: playing to Christian Kirk's strengths. What are the details of that, 318 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: and how's it really looking in terms of what they're 319 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: doing well. The good thing about where you're at in 320 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: the off season you have an opportunity to really paint 321 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: a blank canvas, meaning you take what you did last year, 322 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: You take the things that you really like, the things 323 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: that Trevor did well, the things that some of the 324 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: other players did really really well, and you said, Okay, well, 325 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: we know we like that because the players excel to that. 326 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: What are some of the other things that we can 327 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: take to build upon what is already a solid foundation. 328 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: What are the plays that Trevor like, talk to Trevor, 329 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: have conversations with him, study the Atlanta tape and see 330 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: some of the things that Kelvin Ridley did well. Okay, 331 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: how can we take what he did well in Atlanta 332 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: and naturally or seamlessly transition it into what we do here. 333 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: And so the off season is a great experimental phase 334 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: when you get on the field, when you're going through 335 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: OTAs and mini camps. Some of the stuff that we 336 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: see the team do, some of the plays and concepts, 337 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: those are just to get on take. So then you 338 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: can do a further evaluation to see, hey, do we 339 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: think we really want to carry this in the regular season. 340 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of that conversation back and 341 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: forth on what do we like, what do we want 342 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: to try, how can we expand what we did last year, 343 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: how can we stay one step ahead of the post 344 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to what we're doing offensively and defensively, 345 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: and can we do all those those things without bogging 346 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: down the players by giving them too much information. If 347 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: you're a fan sitting in the stands, you're watching TV, 348 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: what will Ridley bring that's going to make this look different? Well, 349 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: the one thing I think everyone would probably trying to 350 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: temper expectations, right. The coaches were not trying to put 351 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: him out there and say, hey, he's gonna be our 352 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: number one receiver. Re expect him to kind of carry 353 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: the offense and do those things. But I will say, 354 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: if Calvin Ridley is anywhere close to the last time 355 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: we saw him on the field, Calvin Ridley becomes the 356 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: natural number one receiver in the offense. Calvin Ridle will 357 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: be the guy that commands a double team. Calvin Ridley 358 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: will then kind of allow the Jaguars to re establish 359 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: the pecking order of the passing game meeting Calvin Ridley 360 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: is the number one, Christian Kurt goes to wide receiver. Two. 361 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram is a flex tight end, but he can 362 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: sometimes be the secondary to Calvin Ridley depending on how 363 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: the defense plays. And then day Jones just kind of 364 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: gets in where he fits in and he makes he 365 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: played because the defense is worried about the other people. 366 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: And so you now have not only an established pecking order, 367 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: but you have interchangeable pieces where on one series you 368 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: can say Calvin you go to flanker, Christian you go 369 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: to X. Next series, Christian you go to the slot, 370 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: Calvin you go to XA, Jones you play the Z. 371 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: And so for the defense it changes how they have 372 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: to think about attacking. But Doug Peterson always has multiple 373 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: answers to really address whatever the TACKTI is. When you 374 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: think about this, this offense can be balanced, it can 375 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: be diverse, because it can be explosive because now you 376 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: have an upgrade as the number one receiver spot, and 377 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: so I would expect it to really take off. But 378 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: I would say look for that explosion to happen around 379 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: the middle of the year, after Calvin gets comfortable and 380 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: settled and used to playing again, Because once he gets 381 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: settled and comfortable, then I think you'll see that pro 382 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: Bowl account, the Pro Bowl caliber Calvin show up, and 383 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: that we'll make a world of difference when you think 384 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: about this office in the past again. And I think 385 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: the encouraging thing about that Bucky to me is, you know, 386 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: I think if Ridley was coming in and there were 387 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns around him, there would be pressure 388 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: to force him to get to that level you're talking 389 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: about quickly. But the fact that you've got Christian Kirk, 390 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: Za Jones, Evan Ingram. Realistically, even if Ridley wasn't coming in, 391 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: you would look at this offense and think it's probably 392 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: a top ten offense, So he doesn't need to be, 393 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: you know, the guy the wide receiver won in the 394 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: first game because if he wasn't even if he wasn't 395 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: playing in that game, you would still have the strengths 396 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: that got you to where you were last year. So 397 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: it can happen organically. I think it's what you're saying. 398 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: I think it happen, and I'm gonna say this, and 399 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm not being disrespectful at all, but at his worst, 400 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: I ever really comes in and gives you what Marvin 401 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: Jones gave you. That's great, that offense role, that offense 402 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: was a top ten offense. However, if Kevin Ridley is 403 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: close to form, he's a better player than Marvin Jones was, 404 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: and so then you get a more dynamic playmaker on 405 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: the perimeter. Man, you talk about an offense that can 406 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: go from good to great in a hurry. With Trevor Lawrence. 407 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Remember being in this second year under Doug Peterson, you 408 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: would expect there to be significant growth in multiple areas. 409 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: Quarterback is more comfortable, but now you have an upgraded 410 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: cast around him. Yeah, I think you should be cautiously optimistic, 411 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: but this offense should be lights out. This offense should 412 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: be a top five offense. If everything tran like his training, 413 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: I maybe making too much of this, and I think 414 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, maybe off the airbuck you, 415 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: but to put together a receiving corps Ingram Jones Kirk 416 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: and what you think Ridley's going to be to do 417 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: that in a basic a twelve month period and do 418 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: it all through free agency. You study how teams build 419 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: more than I do. Around the league, I stady the Jaguars. 420 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: Would you study everybody? That's pretty unusual to do it 421 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: that way that quickly, is it not? It is unusual, 422 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: but it's not uncommon when it comes to building around 423 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. When you think about the way, let's 424 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: look at Buffalo Josh Allen's game exploded when they brought 425 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: in Stefan Diggs. You look at the way that Justin 426 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: Herbert performs. He's surrounded by Mike Williams and he also 427 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: has Keenan Allen veteran receivers. The reasons why you want 428 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: to surround Trevor Lawrence with the veteran established receivers is 429 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: because there's a level of dependability and reliability that you 430 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: get from those guys that increases the level of trust 431 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence will have. And so now when he 432 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: hits the top of his rock, he's willing to let 433 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: it go because he trusts that the veteran pass catchers 434 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: are going to be there now. It will eventually flip 435 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: because as Trevor Lawrence gets closer to the sign of 436 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: his big deal, then you have to reset and recalibrate 437 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: how that offense looks. That might mean some younger receivers 438 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: that he can groom and develop because they're cheaper and 439 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: the money is going to him. But right now, when 440 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: he's playing on his rookie deal, you can commit big 441 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: money to the pass catchers on the perimeter because that 442 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: is going to guarantee that the quarterback plays at his best. 443 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: And let's be honest, as a quarterback driven league, when 444 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: your quarterback plays at a high level, you have an 445 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: opportunity to get into the tournament and make a run. 446 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: This approach offensively, Is this going to be a win, shootout, 447 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: tight team next year? I mean, you know, they average 448 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: twenty four points a game last year, and you even 449 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: without Ridley, I had to think the second year jump 450 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: gets him a couple more points in that. You know, 451 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: is this just gonna be a team. We've talked about 452 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: it throughout last season, Bucky, how you're gonna build Is 453 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: he getting to the point which just gonna be, you know, 454 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: let's go win a basketball game every week. I don't 455 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: think it necessarily has to be let's win a basketball game. 456 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: But let's be honest, because we've seen this happen a 457 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: few different times. You personally watched it happen during your 458 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: time previously with the in and out of this coast. 459 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Let's say is this if you're saying, we have his 460 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: twenty four points last year, and let's just say they 461 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: make a four or five point jump where they go 462 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: to twenty eight to twenty nine points, Okay, And you're 463 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: putting the pressure on the offense because remember John Peterson 464 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 1: comes from the offense side of the ball. The offense 465 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: is his baby. He is going to hold those guys 466 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: to our higher standard, maybe than the other parts of 467 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: the team. And so those guys have to show up 468 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: every week and you have to tell them, hey man, 469 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: we need twenty eight or more points each week. So 470 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, maybe it changes the way that 471 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: you call the game. On defense, it becomes about the 472 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: pass rush and the coverage. Don't give up the big plays. 473 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Find a way to get off the field in the 474 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and we'll win a bunch of games with 475 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: the scores maybe a little higher than some defensive coaches 476 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: are comfortable. But if you can hold the team the 477 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: twenty points or less on defense, while knowing that the 478 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: offense is going to get you twenty eight or more, 479 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna win a bunch of games. And so I 480 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: think it becomes not necessarily a less suffocate them and 481 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: stifle them on defense, more of a less bend. But 482 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: don't break. Let's turn the ball over, give our offense 483 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: extra opportunities. But offensively, we want to operate at a 484 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: high efficient rate so that we put points on the board, 485 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: particularly anytime we reached the red zone. And I guess 486 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: you saw some signs of that last year with the 487 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: turnovers forced by the Jaguars jumping from nine to I 488 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: think it was twenty nine, or I mean it was. 489 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: It was a huge jump. I forget what their final 490 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: number was, but they were third or fourth in the 491 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: league and takeaways, and it sounds like what you're saying 492 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: that's going to be sort of have to be. The 493 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: way they play is by I like to use the 494 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: term break and serve on defense. Well, look, that's that's 495 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: a great way to say if you think about because 496 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: you use the teneth analogy. Yes, whenever you serve in 497 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: the tennis, you always should win the game. You win 498 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: the point, you should win the game. And so what 499 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: you're hoping is that you can break the serve a 500 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: couple of times and that would be enough for you 501 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: to be able to win the match. Well, for the Jaguars, 502 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: now that you're all in on offense, Calvin Rilly Christ 503 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: and Kirk Evan Ingram Zay Jones, now the pressure is 504 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: on them. I would expect when we go out the 505 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: training camp practices, Doug Peterson might be a little more 506 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: honorary on the offense because he knows that needs needs 507 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: to get them to operate at a high level. Because 508 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: if they operate at a high level. Now, from a 509 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: defensive standpoint one, it eliminates the running game because the 510 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: opponent has to chase point. It means the ball has 511 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: to apply in the air. And so from a defensive 512 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: standpoint it then becomes about the pass rush and the coverage. 513 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Can you find a way to hit the quarterback in 514 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: those obvious passing situations and then in the back end. 515 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: Can you pick off passes on tips and overthrows due 516 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: to the rush forcing the quarterback to get rid of 517 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the ball under the rest? Yeah, to me, the pass 518 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: rush becomes this team's biggest, biggest storyline going in the 519 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: next season. And I don't think we'll no answers until then, 520 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: but that'll be the storyline to me. Tell me about 521 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: your day, Bucky. I know you're covering the High State 522 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: Pro Day. How many Pro days are you doing in 523 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: this capacity for antofil on network? And what are your 524 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: thoughts on today? Okay, So it's a big week. It's 525 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: a big week job because all about the quarterbacks. I've 526 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: known you well enough to know that you love the 527 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: quarterback and so America loves the quarterback. So we have 528 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: three pro days going this week. We have c J. 529 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Stroud coming to day, we have Bryce Young on Thursday, 530 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: and then we have Will Levitt on Friday. And so 531 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: what we're doing at NFL Network, we're actually doing it 532 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: on NFL Plus. So that's the app. You can download 533 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: it put on your thing that will give you access 534 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: to our Pro Days special You can see everything that 535 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: goes on at each of those three Pro days. And 536 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: then next week, we go talk about the super athlete 537 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: that everyone is fascinated about, Anthony Richardson. We have his 538 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: pro day on the thirty year, so it should be 539 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Final thing, I don't know if 540 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: you've done a mock draft in the last three days, 541 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: but if you were to do a mock draft, who 542 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: you going to the Jaguars right now? What's your gut? 543 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: I'm fair question. None, No, No No. The Jaguars can go 544 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: a few different ways. Like my original thought was, hey, 545 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: they can get another tied end to compliment Evan Ingram 546 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: and really go all in on offense and just say, 547 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. We're really gonna load 548 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: it up and have any video game like offense. So 549 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 1: I got like Dalkon Kim Kaide will certainly work. Uh, 550 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: Michael Meyer from Notre Dame will certainly work. So that 551 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: is a thought. Another thought would be, Okay, I just 552 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: talked about how we're gonna force opponents to chase point 553 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: and make them put it in the air. Well, we 554 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: need a few more cornerbacks to be able to talk 555 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: about it. So you have guys like Beyonte Banks from Maryland. 556 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: You have a couple of other cornerbacks that certainly could 557 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: be and played Jordy Porter Junior and others, and so cornerback, 558 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: tight end somewhere there last place. You could always look 559 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: at offensive taco, but it might do a little fin 560 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: and offensive taco when we get to that point in 561 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I think it's gonna be fascinating Bucky. 562 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: To me, losing Taylor, I'm not worried about the starters, 563 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: but you do wonder about that swing tackle. You wonder 564 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: about cornerback because you've made the point. Maybe two corners needed, 565 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: and then a tight end feels like a spot that's 566 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: going to be ripe at twenty four for a good player. 567 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: To me, those are the storylines for the Jagson as 568 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: we approach the draft, we'll ask my way of segueing two. 569 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: We'll certainly talk about that more on future huddle ups. Bucky, 570 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: have a great day to day. I appreciate you joining us, 571 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon on the Bucky Brook Show. 572 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: Like that jail, maybe maybe one day if you driveled, 573 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: is enough to go into ozone and talk about it. 574 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: I was looking more to that, Bucky, Thanks Buddy, Sorry man, 575 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: appreciate