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Speaker 2: Okay, We're going to hop into episode five sixty four

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Speaker 2: with Tucker Wetmore, who had a number one with wind Up,

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Speaker 2: Missing you. He's got his Brunette World tour kicking off

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Speaker 2: in February. You get tickets at Tuckerwetmore dot com. I

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Speaker 2: we talked about a lot of it here. Great athlete

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Speaker 2: This is Tucker Wetmore here on the Bobby Cast. Tucker,

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Speaker 2: good to see you, Good to see you. We were

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Speaker 2: just talking about the holidays before we started this, and

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Speaker 2: you asked me the question, how is Thanksgiving? And I

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: I don't want you to feel weird about that question.

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Speaker 2: Is really give a very long pause. I've been injured,

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Speaker 2: like and I'm gonna put my foot up so I

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Speaker 2: even hurt worse than I've been. I tore my ankle

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Speaker 3: How's it feeling.

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Speaker 2: Sucks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been there far worse than me, and I'm

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Speaker 1: And you're like, so I've blown listening out twice and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still bother you when it's cold.

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Speaker 2: I went in and they took hitdab cartilage because I

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Speaker 2: and they were like, do not turn your ankle for

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving I was in a boot the whole time. That

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Speaker 2: But it said I got really awkward, and I had

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Speaker 3: Okay, well we're here, we're still breathing.

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Speaker 2: I just found out, Tucker. Thanks for asking. I just

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving was good and thanks the food was great. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had like the devil on the angel on the shoulders,

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Speaker 2: What are the wet MoES known for?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Take your time. I struggle with Thanksgiving. Yeah, I asked

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Good Lord has filled her cup

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Speaker 2: So your grandpa was Pastorage.

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Speaker 2: My dad wasn't wrong. I don't even know my dad.

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Speaker 1: No, I definitely do know my dad. Uh, it's a

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't talked to him a long time, long time.

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Speaker 3: And but it was it was fun, dude. It was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you only get nervous about things that you value.

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Speaker 2: just made you care about it.

442
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Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing in the world, you know. And

443
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 1: I feel like if you kind of just would swap

444
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: your brain to think that way.

445
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 3: It's just makes everything life easier.

446
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 1: But like for normal performances like concerts or something like that,

447
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,919
Speaker 1: I don't get as nervous anymore. Sometimes a little bit

448
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,280
Speaker 1: will hit me, but I get more excited, you know.

449
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 1: I kind of treat it like a football game where

450
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 1: I just kind of like hot myself up and you know,

451
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 1: start doing jump with jacks backstage or whatever it is,

452
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 1: and I kind of I kind of fire myself up,

453
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm getting ready to go, you know, play

454
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 1: football game or whatever it is.

455
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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just life. You know.

456
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Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our

457
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Speaker 5: sponsor and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

458
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Speaker 2: Early on, did you go too hard and like have

459
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 2: to like catch your breath like you dude?

460
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 1: I still do it sometimes, Like I get I hide

461
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: myself up so much that song two comes around, I'm

462
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 1: like huffing and puffing, and uh, I've I've definitely started

463
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 1: to learn how to like, you know, breathe on stage

464
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 1: and you know, find my breath when when I don't

465
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 1: have it. But that was definitely a huge problem, just

466
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,479
Speaker 1: because I would want to come out firing off and

467
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, like.

468
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 2: An ball energy, but uh, it's a marathon, it is.

469
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Speaker 3: It is one hundred percent.

470
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Speaker 2: That's why you have the screens and the lasers do

471
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: a lot of that big energy stuff that you come

472
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 2: out and have. When you moved to Nashville, Like what'd

473
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 2: you move down with?

474
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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

475
00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what was on the car, like,

476
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 2: did you have a trailer? It was just small car stuff.

477
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was it was just my car. And then.

478
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: God bless my mom because she helped pay for like

479
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 1: one of those pod things that you that you ship over.

480
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: So we stacked that full of like my bed, a

481
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 1: couple of couches.

482
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Speaker 3: It wasn't big.

483
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: It was literally there was like not a square inch left.

484
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: But we fit all of my stuff in this pod thing,

485
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 1: and then we shipped it over and then packed my

486
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: car with a couple of.

487
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: Things, and then we just hit the road. Had you

488
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: been here before once before? It was it was the month.

489
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 2: Before, so you weren't coming like for years. No, so

490
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: you've been one time and you're like, screw it, I'm

491
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 2: moving down. Yeah, So what was the catalyst then that

492
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 2: made you move?

493
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Speaker 3: Like?

494
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: What was the thing?

495
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Speaker 3: So that's why we visited.

496
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Speaker 1: After I had that talk with my mom where I

497
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: was like I want to chase this music thing, she

498
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: was like, all right, where do you want to go?

499
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I heard Austin's got some music

500
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: and obviously got music City down to Tennessee. And she

501
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: was like, well, let's go, let's go visit these things.

502
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: So I went to Austin by myself. I knew a

503
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Speaker 1: friend that I stayed with in Dallas, and we checked

504
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Speaker 1: out Austin. Wasn't a huge fan of it. It was

505
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of in the middle of COVID, so it was

506
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: like super dirty and after all those riots and stuff,

507
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: So wasn't a huge fan of it. Then a couple

508
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Speaker 1: of weeks later, me and my mom flew down to

509
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Speaker 1: Nashville just to check it out to see if I

510
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: wanted to move, try to find an apartment kind of thing.

511
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Speaker 1: And for the first days, first two days we were here.

512
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Speaker 3: I remember looking at it. I was like, Mom, I

513
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know about this.

514
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: I I didn't get that like immediate old this is

515
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: the spot, you know, this is where I need to be.

516
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: And then because we're downtown, we checked out Broadway. We

517
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: checked out like Midtown and you know, you know all

518
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: that stuff, and it was it was a lot, and

519
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: you know, I come from a super small town. The

520
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: biggest building we got is the Poker Pietz that sells

521
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 1: pizza and it's half pizza, half far you know, that's

522
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: the tallest building in my town. And you know, so

523
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Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't. He was on the huge, like

524
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: the big city kind of lifestyle. And I was like, Mom,

525
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: let's go to the outskirts of Nashville. Let's go find

526
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Speaker 1: some then that feels like home. Let's see if there's

527
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: a lake around here. Go Grable by teat I'm lake.

528
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Speaker 3: And so we found Old.

529
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: Hickory and uh, gosh, what's that place called the Rudder?

530
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 1: The Rudder on Old Hickris on the north side, and uh.

531
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Speaker 1: We ended up driving out there. We had lunch there

532
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: and immediately and no opportunities were like before moving in

533
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: or before visiting Nashville. My mom was like, we're not

534
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Speaker 1: just we're not going to try to, you know, force anything,

535
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: push anything, and like, if opportunities arise, then then we'll

536
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Speaker 1: know that's that.

537
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Speaker 3: This is the right decision. I was like, I'm completely

538
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 3: in that boat. And so we went to the Rudder.

539
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 3: We sit down and start eating.

540
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Speaker 1: Immediately the manager of the whole place comes up just

541
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Speaker 1: starts talking to us. He goes, what are you guys

542
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: doing where you go from?

543
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: YadA YadA? And I'm like, oh, we're we're just visiting.

544
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: See if we want to move to Nashville from Washington

545
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: and he goes, Oh, that's amazing.

546
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: You do music.

547
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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm trying. I got a handful of

548
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: songs and a dream. And then he was like, dude,

549
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: I got.

550
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: The stage right here.

551
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: If you ever want to play it on like the

552
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: weekends during the summer, you can play it this the

553
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: outside stage. And then he was like, dude, or honestly,

554
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: if you need a job, you got a job here anytime.

555
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: And this guy doesn't know me.

556
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: You just met him.

557
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: I just met him.

558
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: He walked up at the table.

559
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: Five minutes before this, and he was like, if you

560
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: need a job, you got a job on the spot.

561
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: Just let me know when you're in town. I was like, mom,

562
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: I think, I think I got this feeling now. I

563
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: got this feeling where like if if something doesn't work out,

564
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: something else is going to work out. And she's like

565
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 1: all right, And so that was kind of like that's

566
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: where it swaps. And then I got a I didn't

567
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: ever take up take him up on the opportunity when

568
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 1: I moved to town, but it was it was one

569
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: of those things that I could feel into my soul

570
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 1: that it was the right decision.

571
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Speaker 2: From that day forward, does that guy know at all

572
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Speaker 2: that his brief interaction with you change the course of

573
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Speaker 2: your life.

574
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Speaker 3: Probably not.

575
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe if he watches this now, but no,

576
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I haven't seen him since.

577
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: What if he's really not a real person and it

578
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: was an angel? Do you ever think about that?

579
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: I think about that very often.

580
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: AX, Like, maybe you go back and you're like, hey,

581
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 2: is oh Sean here at Rudders They're like, Sean, he

582
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: died in nineteen.

583
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: Fifty six, exactly. Yeah, he's the founder of.

584
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: This place, mister Rudder. You mean he hasn't been around

585
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: me forty years. And you're like, no, no, no, he

586
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: wore like a bow tie, dark hair, and they show

587
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: you a picture and you're like, oh my god, dude,

588
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: I think of as an angel.

589
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, having like weird encounters with people and just thinking like, oh,

590
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: maybe that was God trying to tell me something or

591
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: sending someone to tell me. So I think about it

592
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: almost every day.

593
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Speaker 2: That's a great story. You moved down How long until

594
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: you get any sort of money coming in at all

595
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: because of music?

596
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: Last year?

597
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: So how long were you here?

598
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: Two years ago?

599
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: I sign a publishing deal in twenty twenty two, So

600
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: did you move in twenty.

601
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 3: I'm moving twenty.

602
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: So what'd you do for two years? How'd you pay rent?

603
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: I door dashed.

604
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Speaker 1: Really back when FGL, that bar downtown was FGL. I

605
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 1: worked there for probably a week and a half, serving

606
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: food and I hated it, so I quit. Then I

607
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: would door dash and I was living on the skin

608
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: of my teeth for a while there. Like peanut butter

609
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: spoon for dinner kind of thing, and I'd buy these

610
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: these packs of like Hamburger patties and I'll just cook

611
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: them up and throw an egg on it, and I'd.

612
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 3: Kind of like be my dinner.

613
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, my my mom helped me a lot.

614
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: My mom and her boyfriend, they definitely helped pay some

615
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: bills a lot of the time.

616
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Speaker 2: And is there an appreciation now extra because of the

617
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: struggle before?

618
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 3: You know? It's just I feel like.

619
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Speaker 1: Growing up with a silver spoon is a blessing in

620
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: its own way. But I feel like growing up with

621
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: the wooden one teaches you a lot more about how

622
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: life actually is and how it can be. You know,

623
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: if you don't try to work for something, and you know,

624
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: I feel like it's, uh, it's very important to know

625
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: what bottom feels like, especially when you get to the top.

626
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: Putting.

627
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: Being a good role model for the people that want

628
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: to do something anything in life.

629
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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you earned perspective.

630
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: Yep.

631
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: And I feel like, yeah, no perspective has ever wanted

632
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: because perspective is hard to get. You never want to

633
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: have to go through something that gives you perspective because

634
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: that's uncomfortable. But I'm very grateful at the respective that

635
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: I have never liked it while it was happening, but

636
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 2: I have such an understanding now of other people and

637
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: what they're going through because I've also gone through it,

638
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: which allows me to go, oh, hey, let me help

639
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 2: you here, or let me give you some advice to

640
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: help you here, or you're gonna figure this out yourself.

641
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: But it's a weapon. Getting through stuff is a literal weapon.

642
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: You don't want to have to acquire the weapon. You

643
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 2: don't like it while it's happening, but once you have it,

644
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: it's awesome.

645
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

646
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the the tailor's oldest time pressure makes diamonds.

647
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's very cliche, but it's it's a

648
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: true thing.

649
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you this question. I want one hundred

650
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: percent honesty this is based off something you just said.

651
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: One hundred percent honesty. Raise your right hand. I Tucker

652
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: promised to be honest, I tuck her what more, promised

653
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: to be honest. Did you ever steal a fry or

654
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: any food when you were delivering door dash?

655
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: No, not a single time.

656
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 2: No, you are the most honorable door dash guy in

657
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: the history of door dash.

658
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: I promise you, not a nothing, not even thought about it.

659
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: One actually dumped out, he left it out and then

660
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: ate it.

661
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: Uh huh, not a single time.

662
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: Honorable Tucker weapon, I try, I try. Wow.

663
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fanzy to think about, though.

664
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: I feel like, shake the bag and let some fall.

665
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: I used to wait tables. I waited tables a lot,

666
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: and so yeah, that would happened.

667
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny.

668
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Or for me it was after they were done as well,

669
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: if the roles had him in touch, or if something

670
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: had him in touch, I would say it needed.

671
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: Gotta do what you gotta do. I guess that's right.

672
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm proud of you, Like it didn't need

673
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: a single fry and you raise your right hands and

674
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: you can't lie about.

675
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: That, that's right.

676
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: How'd you get your publishing deal? What was it that

677
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: got you the deal. Was it a single song or

678
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: was it a body of work with a few songs?

679
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: No, I guess okay, So I was writing a bunch.

680
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: So when I moved to town in twenty twenty, I

681
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: didn't know anybody. I didn't know not a single person.

682
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about anything about the music industry

683
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: or you know, at all. And so I was I

684
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: would sit there in my apartment and kind of put

685
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: like covers out on TikTok and Instagram, and you know,

686
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing like that influencer thing, but I was

687
00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: just posting my songs online. And then this girl named

688
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Rikaile Marshall. She's got a publishing company named Backblocks, and

689
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 1: she saw some stuff online and then she's like, hey,

690
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: let's take a meeting. You know, I saw I saw

691
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: a couple songs that you've written, and I kind of

692
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: see something, so let's take a meeting. And then took

693
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: a meeting, and then probably eight months later, I ended

694
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: up signing a publishing duale. And then I had another

695
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: offer from twelve six and I ended up going with Backblocks,

696
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: and then I would I was writing a little bit,

697
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: and then we brought some my manager now Autumn legend

698
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: to the team, and then I feel like once she

699
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: joined the team, I was I was starting to write

700
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: every single day, and you know, it kind of started

701
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: moving a lot then and then I teased some stuff.

702
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: We got to the point where I was like, all right,

703
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: let's start teasing some stuff as you know, try to

704
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: build the artist thing. And that's when I teased wanted

705
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: a whiskey and then end up missing. It happened right

706
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: after that, and it was kind of to the moon

707
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: from there.

708
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: Was co writing weird for you at first.

709
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Very very especially when you first start, because it's kind

710
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: of like speed didding.

711
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: You.

712
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: You're walking into a room with these people that you know,

713
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: some of them have twenty five number ones, some of

714
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: them have you know, they just got their first one,

715
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: so they're running high off of that, and you know,

716
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: it's just and then you're just I'm just me. I

717
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing. Nobody knows who I am. I just

718
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: like to write songs and that's all I know. Well,

719
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: and it's you know, you're meeting new people every single day.

720
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get paired up with whatever, and uh, but

721
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't really accustomed to that because I was just

722
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: writing by myself for so long, you know, years before that,

723
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: and it took me a little bit of time to

724
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: kind of really open up and share my thoughts with

725
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: other people.

726
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the vulnerability part is really strange, Yeah, because it's

727
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: not like a licensed therapist. No, it's a freaking dude. Yeah,

728
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: and you're like, glet me to put my heart out

729
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: vulnerable Kansas. Yeah, like you moved here like two years

730
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: before me. You got it. That's weird, that's weird.

731
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: It was very weird.

732
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: But you know, I knew how, I know how important

733
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: it is, you know, to be part of the songwriting community,

734
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: and so I kind of.

735
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: I knew if I didn't learn quick how to do it,

736
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: then the opportunity will pass me up.

737
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: So I just kind of, you know, sometimes two songs

738
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: a day and just like grinding for years.

739
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

740
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast.

741
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: What was the first song that you wrote here in town?

742
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: And it doesn't even have to have made an album,

743
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: but that you thought, oh, I'm getting better, like this

744
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: is actually good and I'm super proud of it. And

745
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: do you remember that feeling like actually writing one where

746
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: you feel like you've leveled up.

747
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think. I feel like I'm really

748
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: hard to satisfyify myself. You know, it's really hard to

749
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: like satisfy me for you know, satisfy me. And uh,

750
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm always just trying to write better and

751
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, write a better song. But there was a

752
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: moment in twenty four twenty three. No, it was twenty

753
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: three where I wrote wind and Whiskey and then wind

754
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Up Missing You in.

755
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: The same week and I d on it. Yeah, And

756
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: it was like the week after my birthday and.

757
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,239
Speaker 1: I just turned twenty four or something like that. And

758
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: on that Monday, I wrote wind and a Whiskey and

759
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: then me and my buddy's like, hey, this is this

760
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: kind of fire, this is this feels good. And then

761
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: that Thursday or Friday, I walked into a room and

762
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: I wrote wind Up Missing You. And I think after

763
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: that week, especially when I started teasing both of them,

764
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I see some growth. I see

765
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: some like.

766
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: Some vision on.

767
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Sound or you know, style or whatever it is that

768
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: I was that was spending years on chasing. And yeah,

769
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I'd say that week was very pivotal for my mindset.

770
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: When you wrote proving me right. How'd you feel about that?

771
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: Did you think it'd be something? Or do you write

772
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: so much at times you don't know and later on

773
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: you discovered to be something or did somebody else tell

774
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: you it's going to be something.

775
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like it.

776
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: The conversation of if it's something is still pretty early,

777
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, because it came out Friday, so just a

778
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: couple of days ago ago.

779
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: But but it has to be something of all this

780
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: stuff that you're writing that you've identified that as the

781
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: something of what you have coming out, like that's a

782
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: that's a single. Yeah, so it's got to be something

783
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: to you.

784
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: No, one hundred percent.

785
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: No, it definitely felt to answer your question, it definitely felt.

786
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: Really good in the room.

787
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: And you know, I out of vision for how I

788
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: wanted the song to go and what I wanted to

789
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: say within the song. And I remember Jesse Joe I

790
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: voice memoed her right before I walked on stage.

791
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: I think it was in like Washington or I was somewhere.

792
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: I was about to walk on stage, and I was

793
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: doing my vocal warm ups and then I started like

794
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: humming this this tune and then started singing the chorus

795
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: of proving me right, and I was like, I don't

796
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: know what this is, but I'm about to hop on stage.

797
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: I didn't want to forget it, and then I just

798
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: immediately sent it to her and no, I want to

799
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 1: say a couple of months later we ended up writing

800
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: the song me her, uh, Chris Tompkins and you know

801
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: a couple other people, and.

802
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: Luke laired to forgetting Luke claired, Yeah, he's only got like, yeah,

803
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: thirty five, forty numbers.

804
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Luke.

805
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: I got I got anybody else I went to, is

806
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: that anything? But Luke?

807
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: I love Luke great dude.

808
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: And that was my first time working with him too,

809
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: so it was it was cool to get that, you.

810
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 3: Know, that song out of that.

811
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: That guy has such a history of writing for well

812
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: all the number ones, but oh you like doing hip

813
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: hop style? Yeah, like he's dude.

814
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: It was it was like watching a machine watching him

815
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: do do his thing, because he was tracking the whole

816
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and then he would turn around and

817
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: say like a badass line and we're like, yeah, that's

818
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: that's right, and uh so he'd write it down and

819
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's definitely a machine. He's one of my favorite.

820
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: He's becoming one of my favorite people that i've you know,

821
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: that I work with, and he's awesome.

822
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: What's the biggest fish I ever caught?

823
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: It's a good quotion.

824
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: I don't think deep sea counts for the record. Growing

825
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: up with lakes, Okay, when people are like, well I

826
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: caught I got an albacorp French marlin, I'm like, dude,

827
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 2: that ain't the same. Like we're driver fishing, we're hybrid fishing.

828
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: I mean almost catfish don't count because they're bottom dwellers

829
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: and you can you can really sit there, you can

830
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: do you can cheat to catch big catfish.

831
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

832
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: Biggest fish I ever caught? I think it was like

833
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: a six or seven foot sturgeon off the Columbia River. Wow.

834
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to.

835
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: Catch that because most of the time, if we catch

836
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: like gar you don't mean to catch them.

837
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Me and my buddies would go sturgeon fishers.

838
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: So to eat the sturgeon, there's a very small window

839
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: where you can keep them, and it has to be

840
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: between whatever size.

841
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: I can't tell you.

842
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it was in the window of being

843
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: able to keep them. It's like one day out of

844
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: the year, one or two days out of the year.

845
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: If that I fund like bad eating.

846
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 1: No, it's it's some of the best meat in the world.

847
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. It's a white meat tastes great. I'm

848
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: sure it's it's great.

849
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: You should try. If you ever go to a place

850
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: and there's people when they say, man, eat perch, I'm like,

851
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: per terrible. There ain't no meat there.

852
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

853
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm hungry enough, I would, but I

854
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't go out seeking perch meat. You know, but surgeon

855
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: fishing is fun. I saw my buddy one time. So

856
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: what we would do would go down to what.

857
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: Do you think that way you put on scale?

858
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 3: No, we didn't guess thirty five pounds.

859
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: What test lines you have on your on your run reel?

860
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: Do you know?

861
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: Ah?

862
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty oh, so you had to be a bit

863
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: delicate with it then, Yeah, I remember, I remember a

864
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: test line wasn't wasn't too strong?

865
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: Is screaming?

866
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, you sit there and fight those fish

867
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: are hours.

868
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: You have to wear anything bigger out that's the way.

869
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: Obviously you know this, But anybody watching or listening, like

870
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: we used to striper fish a lot, yeah, and strippers

871
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: were big. I watched my mom catch a forty pounder once. Yeah,

872
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: I have caught My stepdad was a stripper guy for

873
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: a while. So we'd go out and catch shad and

874
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: then we'd just fish with striper and stripper were the biggest.

875
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: But hybrids, the striper white bass mix, they were the

876
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: best fighters, okay. And if we'd have we'd have you know,

877
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: twenty five pound tests or something on and you have

878
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: some of the fights harder than that. You got to

879
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: wear it down. You can't just reel it in, can't

880
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: pop your line. Yeah, when you got the sturgeon in,

881
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: we're like, oh my god, thinks wait a minute, and

882
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: we thought it.

883
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's so what me and my buddies would do.

884
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: We'd go down to the bank of the Columbia River.

885
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: It was called the Clamor of Marina, and we'd go

886
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: down there, cooler lawn chairs, sometimes a fire right there

887
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: on the beach, and we'd cast out, let it sit,

888
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: put a put it in a put it in a

889
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: wrod holder, and put a bell on.

890
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: It and just sit there and drink and then then

891
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: it sit on the bottom. We're having a bobber.

892
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 3: No, it had sit on the bottom yep. And then yeah,

893
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: we'd just sit there and wait and drink and if

894
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 3: we don't catch anything, we caught a buzz.

895
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: You still exactly.

896
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

897
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: What was your greatest athletic performance in high school or college?

898
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: Like single game?

899
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Football, I'd say, I mean, there's

900
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 3: a couple of.

901
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: Games my senior year, I score like four touchdowns in

902
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: the first half, and then that I have tolet me out. Yeah,

903
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: I feel like I would have brought broken a couple

904
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: more records if I was able to stay in the

905
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: game longer. I'd say my favorite performance, Uh, probably state

906
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: championship game my senior year. I end up scoring two

907
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: or three touchdowns with a pick six.

908
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: And you're playing both ways?

909
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah m hm.

910
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: So offensively you.

911
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Played receiver and then defense, I was corner sometimes strong safety.

912
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: Were they just getting you the ball? Was it? We

913
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: got to just get Tucker of the ball because he's

914
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: the guy pretty much, so it didn't matter. You're running screens,

915
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 2: you're slants, but you're also did you have to have

916
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 2: decent speed?

917
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: I was all right, like a four four seven.

918
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: Now that's not all right, that's flying. Yeah, that's flying

919
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: all right.

920
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: And then defensively those are my prime though I can't

921
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: do that no more.

922
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: But you've had like seventeen surgeries in the last week.

923
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: It sounds like, yeah, so you played football, you played,

924
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: you're in track. You mentioned track.

925
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: You track?

926
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: Yep, you play baseball. Let me guess you played shortstop

927
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: and pitched.

928
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: If I'm just getting centerfield centerfield and UH pitched a.

929
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: Little bit too.

930
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sounds about right. At tracks. Yeah, that's where

931
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: they put the athletes shortstop, center field and then they

932
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: always pitch. Did you play baseball college? Did you want

933
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: to No? Just football?

934
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: Just football?

935
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: What'd you did you playing in college?

936
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: I was a receiver.

937
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: I actually got drafted or not drafted. What recruited to UH?

938
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: To play strong safety is the original thing? And I

939
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: are to already signed my papers, like I'm going here

940
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: to play strong safety for Montana Tech University was the thing.

941
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: And then I want to say, a couple months before

942
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: I ended up moving to nash or UH Montana head

943
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: coach his name is Chuck Morrell. At the time he

944
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: calls me, he goes, hey, man, I hope you're doing good.

945
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: We've been and it was like a super serious dude,

946
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: like borderline scary series. And he goes, we were looking

947
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: at your film a lot the past week, and how

948
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: would you feel about playing receiver for us? And I

949
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: immediately sighed relief. You know, I wanted to play offense

950
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be a receiver. And I was like, thanks, coach,

951
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: I would love to.

952
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: He goes, you got it. Seeing a few sung up,

953
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, and so, uh, you know,

954
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: I ended up playing receiver for them.

955
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: And when you got to to start playing college ball,

956
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: did you notice the speed was a lot faster.

957
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

958
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: Did you take to it pretty quick? Yeah, I'd say,

959
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: so you didn't get there and get so intimidated.

960
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: Not really.

961
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: I mean my high school, our high school team was

962
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: very like open offense, like very fast paced, no huddles

963
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: a lot of the time unless we're up by quite

964
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: a bit, and then we'd huddle up and kind of

965
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: kill time. But we'd come out the gate, no huddle,

966
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: you know, fade post screen.

967
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: You know.

968
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: I so whatever it is, you know, it's just so

969
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of not too crazy for transition. But the

970
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: the things that go in at surrounding the year, you know.

971
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Is a lot more.

972
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: You know, you're four am workouts in the winter, six

973
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: pm film for four days a week. You know, it's

974
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: like there's a lot that it's a full time job.

975
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: So that I think that was like the biggest thing

976
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: that I had accustomed to do.

977
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: That parallel with music, What are people not seeing that

978
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: actually is extremely valuable in what you do.

979
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: A lot?

980
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: I'd say health is one thing, you know, keeping up

981
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: on my health, making sure I'm I'm stage ready.

982
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 3: You know, eating good.

983
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: You can't get sick, Yeah, can't get sick. That's your money,

984
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: that's your band's money.

985
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: Exactly, that's everybody, you know, just trying to just trying

986
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: to stay on top of my health and make sure

987
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm healthy, especially in the thick of touring, and you know, songwriting,

988
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: people don't really understand how much we really do.

989
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: Right and then like prep for.

990
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: A tour, you know, you got you got rehearsals and

991
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: you know you'll have two weeks straight of just rehearsals

992
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: before a tour. Just make sure everything's you know, tie

993
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: as a button, and we know what to do if

994
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: this happens or this happens, and there's.

995
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: A lot that goes into it.

996
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: You know or like interviews, and you know, sometimes I'll

997
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: fly out to New York or LA for a couple

998
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: of days and just do press.

999
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: For days straight.

1000
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: And do you ever do the thing in press where

1001
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: you do so many in a row you forget if

1002
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: you've already told that story in this interview. Yeah, that's

1003
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: happened to me in this in this conversation, probably twice. Now,

1004
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: what did you think you're already told or didn't tell.

1005
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: The story about me moving here? I feel like I just,

1006
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, told that so much that it's kind of

1007
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: just repetition.

1008
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: You brought that up. I did. I did to be fair,

1009
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: That's my fault. Yeah, that's on you because I didn't

1010
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: say you said you know your mom brought you down? Yeah,

1011
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: I followed you.

1012
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Halfway through, I was like, I've told this story

1013
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: so many times. He doesn't want to hear this, But

1014
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: that's just part of it.

1015
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

1016
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 5: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1017
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: What's been the best part about the year, because you

1018
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: really popped off this year, like it's been crazy, And

1019
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: I wonder sometimes if people understand what's happening to them

1020
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: while it's happening. Do you understand what's happened to you

1021
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: in the last year or are you just so in

1022
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: it that you only partially.

1023
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Do They're I'm starting to know now that I got

1024
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: some time off, and I kind of I can breathe

1025
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: for the first time in ten months. But there was

1026
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: a huge portion of this year where it's like I

1027
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: wake up, I work out, play the show, write a song,

1028
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: whatever it is that I'm doing throughout the day, and

1029
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: it's just like all these all these crazy things would

1030
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: happen around me, and I'm just like, all right, what's next,

1031
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: what's next, What's next, and kind of just focusing on

1032
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: the task at hand instead of being able to like

1033
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: celebrate what I just did or what what we just accomplished.

1034
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: But now that I got some time off, and I'm really, like,

1035
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: like last night, I was I was laying in bed

1036
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: just thinking about how crazy this year has been and

1037
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: how crazy my life is now compared to a year

1038
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: ago or two years ago even, and you know, it's

1039
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: just it's wild being able to sit there and think about, damn,

1040
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: this is really really cool, and it's everything everything I've

1041
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: ever wanted.

1042
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: I got three questions left. Did you buy a house yet?

1043
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: I did. That's big, It's amazing, amazing.

1044
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: I never I.

1045
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: Never would have thought it would have happened this quick

1046
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: where I can, like, you know, by my buy my

1047
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: first piece of property and you know, take care of

1048
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: my family the way I am, and you know all

1049
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: the blessings that come with it that you know make

1050
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: my heart happy in full and just having my own place.

1051
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: To call mine.

1052
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, if you learn how expensive furniture is.

1053
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: It came furnished. Oh it came furnished, all right.

1054
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: Flex Yeah, fully furnished house. What more gets his house

1055
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: is furnited?

1056
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 3: Not even know the guy? His name is Chuck.

1057
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: He classic Chuck hooking up with Chuck?

1058
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: Does he goes? I just I'm trying to get rid

1059
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: of the property. You can keep all the furniture.

1060
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, perfect, Well yeah, well you'll

1061
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: learn then. Yeah, furniture sucks to buy. Yeah, because you're

1062
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: having an adult a little bit now, you know, you're

1063
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: not having to go full adult mode yet, but you're

1064
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: Furniture sucked. Refrigerators suck, car tires suck. There are purchases

1065
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: they just aren't fun to make because you feel like

1066
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: You're spending all this money on things you don't really

1067
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: use except use them all the time. They're just not

1068
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: dynamic to you.

1069
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: You just don't think about.

1070
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, first time I bought a refrigerator was like, I'll

1071
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: just take one of those little ones, and then you

1072
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: realize you actually need a real life adult those like dormy.

1073
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: I know that's what I'm like. I'm I live this

1074
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 2: small place with my whole life, all right. Two questions

1075
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: left the Brunette World Tour. Do you get nervous about

1076
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: tickets and venue selling when it's your show.

1077
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: A little bit?

1078
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: You know, especially like the moments before it goes live

1079
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: or the pre sale goes live. I definitely bother my

1080
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: team more than they would want me to, like, Hey,

1081
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: how do we feel, how are we looking? Should we

1082
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: do this venue instead of this venue?

1083
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: Kind of thing?

1084
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: And I definitely did a lot of that, But then

1085
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: they're like, no, just trust process, trust us. And it

1086
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: went live and what would you say? Eighty five percent

1087
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: of it sold out pretty much the first two.

1088
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: Days sold out. Oh man, that's so lucky.

1089
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: And now it's sitting at like ninety seven percent sold out.

1090
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: And by lucky I mean fortunate for you. You've earned it.

1091
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: God dang, you don't have to stress out about that.

1092
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 3: I know, very very blessed.

1093
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: It's sold out to the point where we had one

1094
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: night in London. Now we had to move to three

1095
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: in the same venue, and the first two sold out,

1096
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: the second ones pretty.

1097
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: Much like some of the only tickets left.

1098
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh all three hold up, never mind, haang, flex got

1099
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: furniture and all sold out. This is just you're comfortable

1100
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: now and now I just don't want this out.

1101
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: There is how my life rocks? Oh gosh, no, not

1102
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: even uh but no, I'm just it's very blessed. And

1103
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's That's the only way I can

1104
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 3: explain it. It's just it's it's not me. I'm just.

1105
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm not the hand. I'm just the

1106
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: vessel kind of thing. It's it's amazing, all right.

1107
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: Final question, what question do you get asked in most

1108
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: of the interviews that you know is going to come

1109
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: up every single time? And you're like, I know it's

1110
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: going to come up, so let's just go ahead and

1111
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 2: do it.

1112
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: How'd you get here?

1113
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: You know, when you move to Nashville kind of thing?

1114
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: And I kind of fell into that. But uh, that's

1115
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: definitely when I get often.

1116
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: Do Youah, it's just a bad But do you have

1117
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: a quick version of it that you tell if you're

1118
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: just not not feeling good?

1119
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: The one I told earlier? Yeah, yeah, I try to

1120
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: keep it short.

1121
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: It's just, uh, it's just a story I've had to

1122
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: tell for like three plus years now, ever since I

1123
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: started doing interviews like this.

1124
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: What It's not that I get irritated with it. It's

1125
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: just it feels like a repetition.

1126
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: Have you told the pod part of it? Ever?

1127
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: What do you mean? No, I don't actually see.

1128
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: You give me the nuggets that you're tired of giving,

1129
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: and I take and I extract new information from the

1130
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: old nuggets. I'm basically the recycle center. You bring me

1131
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: your old trap, and I turned it into good stuff.

1132
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 2: I love it. That's amazing, all right, Good to see it, Tucker.

1133
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the next number one, the last number one? Three, two? One?

1134
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: Great song? Why'd you pick that one? Because you're such

1135
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: a good writer?

1136
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: Think you?

1137
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: And that was a cut? An outside cut? What about

1138
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: that song though? Made you go dang. I've written a

1139
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: bunch of great songs, but I think I'm gonna cut

1140
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: that one.

1141
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: It felt the most radio hisk at the time to

1142
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 3: me in a sense, and.

1143
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to follow up, wind up with something that

1144
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: kind of felt like it was in the same vein,

1145
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: just to kind of lay the foundation in a sense.

1146
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it just felt right. It was

1147
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: just a feeling that I hadn't then my team had

1148
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: the same feeling.

1149
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: Then let's wrap on this because you've set it up here,

1150
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: brag about one more thing, but seriously, like, say something

1151
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 2: really cool. I don't like no, no, because you got

1152
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: me a cut with a couple good one. I like it.

1153
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: It's been good. Like, tell me something else that's just

1154
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: going awesome in your life right now. I just uh,

1155
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: don't stumble, let's go. I'll commit to it. I just

1156
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 2: got a new septic at my house and they just

1157
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: they just finished that off. That's big news this morning.

1158
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: Actually, this is big wow, grown up stuff.

1159
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: You know, you're not on like city septic.

1160
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 3: Personal I like relying on other people, you know.

1161
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: But septic's not relying on other people. That's just living

1162
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: in the community. I get my own water. I don't

1163
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: need I don't need the plumbing.

1164
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 3: That's all right.

1165
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 2: You guys, you're listening or you're watching. The Brunette World

1166
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: tour kicks off in February. But he doesn't need you.

1167
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Hes already got people going to a show. He's already

1168
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: sold out. Yeah, uh no, go watch Tucker. It's really

1169
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: cool to watch even how much better you've gotten live

1170
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: think because and that just comes with just just reps honestly,

1171
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: but even like the show you're playing here at the

1172
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: Rhyman too. I mean you've played our you played our

1173
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: show way back in the day. Just to kind of

1174
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: watch the growth of you as a songwriter and an artist,

1175
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: it has been really cool to see, man, Thank you man.

1176
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: And also like how many abs do you have? Like

1177
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: if you were to count to your abs, how many

1178
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: do you have?

1179
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: Not too much right now I'm kind of slack and

1180
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: it's it's off season right now.

1181
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: That's bull trap all right. There he is, Tucker web More.

1182
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.