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Speaker 3: Old and let's let's start with the story of the day.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, after a long wait, shod Or Sanders finally selected

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Speaker 2: in the fifth round by the Cleveland Browns. I just

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Speaker 2: lot of people are going to get into the whole

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Speaker 2: why he would fall this far in the draft. I

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Speaker 2: just want to talk about his football skills and talking

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Speaker 2: to some people about Shador Sanders leading Epton draft. Here's

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Speaker 2: what you get. Let's make one thing about Shador Sanders clear.

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Speaker 2: He's not a mobile quarterback. In two years at Colorado

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Speaker 2: negative one hundred and twenty seven yards rushing. He basically

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Speaker 2: pocket passer. He's also a guy that doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: sacked a lot, he got sacked for big losses. And

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Speaker 2: that comes down to very quick decision making that you

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Speaker 2: got to make at the NFL level.

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Speaker 3: As far as.

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Speaker 2: Throwing the football, highest completion percentage in FBS history, but

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Speaker 2: it seems like every time they are showing a highlight,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's throwing the ball to Travis Hunter's making

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Speaker 2: some kind of acrobatic you know, bock body contortion cats.

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Speaker 2: So throwing to the best wide receiver in the nation

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Speaker 2: will certainly help any quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But when they break.

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Speaker 2: It down, they said, yeah, he throws a pretty accurate

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Speaker 2: shorter passes, doesn't throw a very tight ball. I was

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Speaker 2: talking about for a lot of people leading up to

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Speaker 2: this draft. When I was predicting Jackson Dart would go

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Speaker 2: before him, I'd say, look at YouTube highlights of these

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Speaker 2: two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Look at the velocity on the ball.

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Speaker 2: Jackson dark just throws a better football than Chador Sanders.

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Speaker 2: So these are a lot of the things that you know,

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Speaker 2: talking to people leaning up to the draft led me

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Speaker 2: before Shador Sanders. However, olden this one. I want to

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Speaker 2: pass the baton to you. That only accounts for the

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Speaker 3: So what is your thought as we sit here now

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Speaker 4: Well, basically, everything you spoke is the same thing you

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Speaker 4: know I had heard and talked about as well, you know,

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Speaker 4: what should do. There was some things about his basketball

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Speaker 4: we get all that, he's six one maybe just you know,

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Speaker 4: those were those were football things. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: I would have quit maybe a year ago. I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna keep getting beat up like that. And that's not

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Speaker 4: his fault. That's the old that's the old lines fault.

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Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, I never saw him.

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Speaker 4: Even I said he's gonna tumble like Geno Smith. I

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Speaker 4: seen all the mock drafts. I've seen everything. I saw

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Speaker 4: what camp. Of course, Kim Wall was gonna probably go

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's exactly it. We have never seen ever

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Speaker 2: someone dropped like this. Like you said, we've seen projected

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Speaker 2: is unprecedented. But also remember this, there were not that

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Speaker 2: many teams looking for a quarterback in this draft.

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Speaker 1: We knew that.

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Speaker 2: Going in, right, I mean, we knew Cleveland might be

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Speaker 2: And also consider this, if you're a coach and you're

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Speaker 2: when we hear the stories about Brian Dables sitting down

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Speaker 2: like a homework assignment, you know, basically leading into the meeting,

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Speaker 2: Brian Dabel. I mean, frankly, he should have been fired

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Speaker 4: But if you're right back, Steve, I'm a Giants fan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, then Brian Dabele is considered that quarterback whisperer,

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Speaker 2: You're like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hitch my

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Speaker 2: He looks at Jackson Dart. They move up into the

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Speaker 2: first round and he gets the quarterback. Now, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely, And I'm okay with that, you know,

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Speaker 4: same time, some of this has to go to Shadua.

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Speaker 4: It's like, dude, your professional athlete. I mean, you've been

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Speaker 4: not right now you're a professional. You've been getting an IL,

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Speaker 4: so you've been a professional. You have to act accordingly.

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Speaker 4: So if this man, for whatever reasons, I mean coaches,

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Speaker 4: as best as you can. But again, I'll share this

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Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute, so this must meet

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Speaker 4: Aaron Anon Rogerson played possibly, but I was like, wait

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Speaker 2: Well you brought back Mason Rudolph. Come on, look, I

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Speaker 2: As far as Aaron Rodgers situation is, and well, I

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Speaker 3: I think shortly we will. Aaron Rodgers does not want

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Speaker 2: Time is limited, so I would hope we would finally

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Speaker 2: This actually is the best opportunity for Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 3: Think about it.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Deshaun Watson's done okay, so they go, you know,

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Speaker 2: You done zero, and they have Gabriel and then you

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Speaker 2: have Shador Sanders. So forget Flacco and Deshaun Watson. They're

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Speaker 2: out of BIX. Chador Sanders is a better quarterback than

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Speaker 2: to actually get as a fifth round pick, an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Almost any other quarterback drafted in the fifth round is

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Speaker 3: Backup job period.

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Speaker 2: He actually will get a chance in Cleveland to win that.

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Speaker 4: Job, definitely, And that's why sometimes you just got to

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Speaker 4: and just be happy. One of the things that I noticed,

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Speaker 4: And I know we're in that social media world and

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Speaker 4: approud him, his staff, whoever's involved for those optics. But

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Speaker 4: to your point, that was the best situation he could

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Amazing a little more input as far as this draft,

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Speaker 3: To the great, Adam Kaplan is joining us right now.

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Speaker 2: Adam, I could pretend and say, all right, let's immediately

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Speaker 2: get to which teams on paper at least looked like

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Speaker 2: I was telling Olden here, Look, I wasn't surprised he

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Speaker 6: Guy, it's gonna be with you, yes, So basically something

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Speaker 6: It's just be careful of where you think he's going

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Speaker 1: Now. Did I think it's going to be a fifth round?

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Speaker 6: This is you know where I did television on Thursday

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Speaker 6: Just telling you this has came directly from a very

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Speaker 1: For, put it out. I don't care.

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Speaker 6: It's my you know, I never worry about what people think.

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Speaker 6: It's come from NFL teams, but this situation was fascinating.

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Speaker 6: I've seen quarterbacks drop, but the reason for him dropping

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Speaker 1: Believe this or not.

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Speaker 4: Hey Adam, Yes, how you doing, Olden?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good to talk to you again, to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: And we've been saying that man, that this is beyond football,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mel said in his forty seven years, Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: But my question is this Woods Shadoor have any kind

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Speaker 1: There's nothing you could do about it. It's football, man,

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Speaker 6: It's it's a truly unique situation old and I can't

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Speaker 6: If olden, if this thing plays out right, and I

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Speaker 6: He should there's there's there's a path for him to

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Speaker 1: For them in the future. That's the funny thing.

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Speaker 2: Again, I said, this is a perfect situation for him.

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Speaker 3: You cut him to thround pick. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Now, I go back all the way back to

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So at least on.

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Speaker 1: He should start. You're one.

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Speaker 6: Now, what this will give them the ability to do

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Speaker 6: I actually love it. Andrew Berry has not been a

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Speaker 6: history was the Watson trade, Steve, but they sent it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Adam, I have It's like a two part question. Sure,

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Speaker 6: so dynamic and so gifted. When you go what's called

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Speaker 6: eleven personnel, when you go three receivers, one back in

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Speaker 6: one tight end, you could stick them out there. They're

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Speaker 6: reready have Brian Thomas junior with phenomenals or rookie. He

439
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Speaker 6: was way well talking to the Jaguars, he was better

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Speaker 6: than anticipated. So they could do any thing that they want.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be cool though for the fans of

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Speaker 6: the Jaguars. We know for the last twenty years or so,

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Speaker 6: they'll be mostly terrible. Let's call it like it is.

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Speaker 6: They've they've mostly been bad. This gives them a shot

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Speaker 6: in the arm. They have a new gm, new front office,

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Speaker 6: and the new coaches deaf, and this gives him something

447
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Speaker 6: that's really really cool to watch. The fact I'm gonna

448
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Speaker 6: i haven't been in the training camp a number of years.

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Speaker 6: I'm absolutely going to see this kid awesome.

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Speaker 4: And the second part of that was the whole thing

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Speaker 4: with Mark Murphy leaving and everything else with the Green

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Speaker 4: Bay Packers, with this public thing that they have who

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Speaker 4: runs the team.

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Speaker 1: Well, you should know that it's sort of like this.

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Speaker 6: It's a putt. Well, it's it's it's it's owned by

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Speaker 6: the fans. It's owned by the public. But they have

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Speaker 6: a front office. It's just a it's it's a very

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Speaker 6: interesting thing. Mark Murphy, I'm old enough to remember old

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Speaker 6: not know if you remember him. He was a safety

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Speaker 6: of very tall safety for Washington in the eighties. Actually

461
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Speaker 6: a Super Bowl winner Joe Gibbs, really good, really good player,

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Speaker 6: and it became their CEO. Yeah, they don't. It's the

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Speaker 6: only one in the NFL. And I don't know what

464
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Speaker 6: it's like in other sports to be owned by the public.

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Speaker 6: It's public trust. It's really interesting. In fact, you could

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Speaker 6: get shares by the I don't know why I didn't

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Speaker 6: buy them. They were offered to mental Why buy them?

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Speaker 6: I guess I'm cheap, But no, it's a they're a

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Speaker 6: very interesting team. And by the way, they're very manning.

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Speaker 6: Every year they have a great roster. They always underachieved

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Speaker 6: in the playoffs. Great, they're like I've called them, like

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Speaker 6: Mark Jackson. In the regular season, they're dominant, but they

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Speaker 6: they're terrible in the playoffs for some reason.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, we're going to give you a week

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Speaker 2: to digest everything that's gone on here, and obviously we'll

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Speaker 2: get much more into it next week about teams, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll have more on the fallout about Shador

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Speaker 2: Sanders and everything else.

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Speaker 3: But Adam always appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to believe that the NFL Draft is down

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Speaker 2: to I think we have fifteen pigs left, so we're

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Speaker 2: down mister irrelevant who's no longer relevant party situation? Right,

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Speaker 2: I always thought that would have been unbelievable at Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like I yes, that would.

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Speaker 3: Oh do you think you would have shown up for? That?

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Speaker 3: Whole thing is mister irrelevant, I.

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Speaker 6: Have to tell you the real quick before we get

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Speaker 6: out of here. It's twenty seconds Cliff Notes, Storret and

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Speaker 6: Rock Party. So a friend of mine who's probably the

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Speaker 6: best again twenty seven years, by far, the best of

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Speaker 6: value in the national football like he hated Don. It's

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Speaker 6: a person because this guy can't play. He's terribly can't throw.

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Speaker 6: But it shows you if you go to the right system, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: the guy could be better than you think.

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Speaker 2: Yes, over half the guys in the Hall of Fame

496
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Speaker 2: are there because of their talent. The other half are

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Speaker 2: there because they're in the right place, right time, right system.

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Speaker 3: It's very simple. Great stuff has always Adam. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you next week.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, guys, Thank you, Adam Kaplan our NFL insider.

501
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Speaker 2: Now let's find out what is trending. May getting ready

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Speaker 2: for his own show. He's chopping at the bit load.

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Speaker 4: I know that Rice.

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Speaker 3: Martin is in the house. How you doing, See I'm

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Speaker 3: doing great? Olden's so excited to see here Martin.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, that's my god. Did the show last week?

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Speaker 4: Was a teugh guy. Now I'm gonna change my name

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Speaker 4: to poly Knice.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I do have to say.

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Speaker 7: Olden did say the Thunder may have a little bit

511
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Speaker 7: of trouble with the Grizzlies.

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Speaker 3: They did today.

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Speaker 7: They did today in game four of before games sweet one,

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Speaker 7: seventeenth to one to fifteen.

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Speaker 1: The final score.

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Speaker 7: Memphis going home home, putting an end merciful end to

517
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Speaker 7: a season that ended, you know.

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Speaker 3: Just the firing of the head coach.

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Speaker 7: And now say Gillis Alexander with thirty eight points six

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Speaker 7: assists in Memphis' final game of the year. Thunder advanced

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Speaker 7: first team to advance to the second round. The Cleveland

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Speaker 7: Cavaliers will be joining them, likely in short order. Three

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Speaker 7: to zero, the series lead one to twenty four, eighty seven.

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Speaker 7: The final score today. Jared Allen had a points and

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Speaker 7: rebounds up with the old Donald.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell was sixteen points.

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Speaker 7: The Clippers and the Nuggets right now two oh six

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Speaker 7: left in the first quarter, Denver with a twenty four

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Speaker 7: to seventeen lead, Clippers.

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Speaker 3: With a to one lead in the series.

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Speaker 7: Jokic and Zubox going out of yokis six, Zubox with five,

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Speaker 7: and the NFL Draft news, you guys been talking about

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Speaker 7: it to Cleveland Browns traded up with the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 7: to selection you Doris Sanders with one hundred and forty

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Speaker 7: fourth pick in the fifth round. Cleveland gave Seattle it's

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Speaker 7: you know, two late round picks to move up. They

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Speaker 7: also drafted Dylan Gay in the third round. So sha

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Speaker 7: Dor Sanders not only is not the second quarterback drafted,

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Speaker 7: it was the second quarterback drafted by his own team.

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Speaker 7: But Seahawks traded Sam Howell to the Vikings. You know,

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Speaker 7: they traded a fifth rounder and Sam Howe to get

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Speaker 7: a fifth rounder back and drafted Jalen Milroe in the

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Speaker 7: third round Alabama quarterback. The Steelers were one of the

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Speaker 7: target landing spots for shir Door Sanders. He didn't go there, obviously,

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Speaker 7: but they did draft the quarterback Ohio State's Will.

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Speaker 3: Howard in the sixth round.

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Speaker 4: In the NHL.

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Speaker 7: With seven minutes left in the third period, the Golden

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Speaker 7: Knights in the Wild tied three apiece earlier today, so

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Speaker 7: the Lightning beat the Panthers five to one to get

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Speaker 7: back into that series, still two to one margin in

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Speaker 7: the Panthers favor thought him at the fifth inning Mets

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Speaker 7: in the Nationals two to nothing, Phillies ten to four

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Speaker 7: over the Cubs on Fox and the eighth, top of

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Speaker 7: the ninth tie two to two between the Giants and

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Speaker 7: the Rangers, White Sox with ten to three lead over

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Speaker 7: the A's on the bottom of the ninth, top of

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Speaker 7: the second, Red Sox with a one nothing lead over

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Speaker 7: the Guardians in game two of a doubleheader, and another

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Speaker 7: game two of a doubleheader Orioles and Tigers scoreless bottom

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Speaker 7: of the second inning.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, by the way, you know you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the second quarterback taken on his own team, And

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Speaker 2: by the way, this is far from uncommon. It actually

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Speaker 2: has happened quite a few times in the NFL history

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Speaker 2: where a team has taken multiple quarterbacks in the same draft.

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Speaker 2: One of the more famous ones was RG three, who

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Speaker 2: was a high first round pick obviously of the then

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Speaker 2: Washington Redskins, and then they took Kirk Cousins in the

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Speaker 2: same draft. And you're like, why would you use a

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Speaker 2: fourth round pick on a quarterback when you use one

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Speaker 2: of the top picks in the draft on a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: RG three was offensive Rookie of the Year, phenomenal rookie season,

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Speaker 2: leading the team into the playoffs. Then he got hurt

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Speaker 2: and the thing, you know, Kirk Cousins is your starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: So again, it doesn't matter where you are drafted, you're

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Speaker 2: going to get the same opportunity.

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Speaker 3: And thirty two out of thirty two teams, I.

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Speaker 2: Promise you will play the best player, regardless of where

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Speaker 2: they were drafted. We have undrafted players constantly not just

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Speaker 2: make it into the NFL, but exceed succeed in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So there's nothing lost here for Shador Sanders. He got drafted.

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Speaker 2: He's going to an NFL team and he's going to

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Speaker 2: get the same opportunity that every other drafted player will

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Speaker 2: receive to make that team.

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely. And that's how it is in football. You know,

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Speaker 4: fifty three man roster, ninety five percent of the people

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Speaker 4: that got drafted, we don't even know who they are.

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Speaker 4: We don't know what school they went to, but they're

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Speaker 4: going to be lining up on Sunday. You know, they're

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Speaker 4: going to make the starting team and everything else. So Shadah,

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Speaker 4: good for him. He finally got drafted. That monkey got

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Speaker 4: off his back a little bit. But you know, again,

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Speaker 4: I love the optics because he was celebrating and he

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Speaker 4: was happy, and I think he generally was happy, and so.

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Speaker 3: He should be happy.

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Speaker 4: He should be because you'll go into a really good

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Speaker 4: situation where you could potentially get some time. And so,

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Speaker 4: I man, I ain't mad at him right now.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not mad at him at all. I want

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Speaker 2: to see what Youador Sanders can do. I want to

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Speaker 2: see what this guy can do at the NFL level.

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Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Olden Poulines. By the way, we are live

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Speaker 2: ask you this, Olden, because you come from a different

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Speaker 2: era as do I. You know, when we look back

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Speaker 2: at retro pay, well, yes, I can't imagine what the

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Speaker 2: University of Virginia would be paying you these days, as

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Speaker 2: they're big with nil money.

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Speaker 3: But I'm going to guess back in the day was

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Speaker 3: a big zero.

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Speaker 2: And but this actually came up a year ago with

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, who was, you know, going to be the

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Speaker 2: number one overall pick, and then people started knocking them

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Speaker 2: a little bit about attitude. By some reports, he received

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Speaker 2: as much as ten million dollars in two years at

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Speaker 2: USC and nil money winning the Heisman Trophy obviously before

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Speaker 2: he comes in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: But how how do you.

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Speaker 2: Believe, you know, if the criticism of shador is fair,

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Speaker 2: He's made millions of dollars in his two years at

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Speaker 2: the University of Colorado, so he's already been living the

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Speaker 2: lifestyle and then all of a sudden, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not like the old days where you're looking for that

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Speaker 2: first paycheck and you've got to be on your best

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Speaker 2: behavior and you got to say the right things and

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Speaker 2: you got to impress the people that ultimately are going

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Speaker 2: to put money in your pocket for the first time.

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Speaker 2: How much do you think that has changed now, especially

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Speaker 2: with players at the top of the draft, that quarterback position,

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Speaker 2: with the money they're making at the collegiate level, how

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Speaker 2: much has that change their die in terms of their

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Speaker 2: mindset going into the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's changed drastically because they're Shure Doll's taking a

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Speaker 4: pay cute chure doors literally taking a pay cut right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean he was getting that money, and that's again,

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Speaker 4: that's the world we're in. This anil think, so you

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Speaker 4: know it is, it's the way of the world, so

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Speaker 4: we have to accept it. But I believe that one

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Speaker 4: of the problems. And I'm not saying that this is

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Speaker 4: Shadoor anybody else because I could say the same thing

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Speaker 4: about cam Ward, I could say it about Milrow, I

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Speaker 4: could say it about any player that got drafted. But

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Speaker 4: there's a hesitation about hunger. How hungry are you? You've

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Speaker 4: been getting this, you know now it's so easy to

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Speaker 4: just transfer, getting a portal and make more money. So

653
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Speaker 4: where's the hunger coming from? You mentioned about you know,

654
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: my era, we were hungry. I remember the food stamps books.

655
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: So it's like that was my grind. I had to

656
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 4: get the hell out of this situation. I was hungry

657
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: for it. I don't see a lot of hunger anymore

658
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: in these guys because they said they're comfortable. You know,

659
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: they got fantoms, they got houses, they got jewelry. I'm

660
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 4: watching the trap everybody's got that we got asking Jensy

661
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: with diamond crusted and crusted crock of crocs.

662
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Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man, let me remember if I

663
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Speaker 2: remember right, you came out after your junior year, right, yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: how much did Virginia try.

665
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Speaker 3: To convince you to stay one more year?

666
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: Oh? None? I was not staying. I needed to go

667
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: make some money and it was personal stuff. My mom

668
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 4: was sick. I had to get her, right. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: but to think about Virginia though, Terry Holland rest in peace.

670
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: He slept with the NCAA rulebuck right, So it's like

671
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: there was nothing happening.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they were under the scrutiny of your predecessor,

673
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: that Ralph Sampson guy. Yeah, so like why did he

674
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: go to Virginia that whole thing and everything else.

675
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Speaker 3: So I understand what it's all about.

676
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: But now, well, I guess my concern is because you

677
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: know me, Olden, I'm a college sports fan. I live

678
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: and breathe college football, college basketball. No knock on the pros,

679
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: because the pros are the best of the best.

680
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: And I know that.

681
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: But there's always been something romantic in my mind about

682
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: collegiate sports, and now all of a sudden it's changing

683
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: dramatically in this transfer porter.

684
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Speaker 3: It's one thing to pay the players.

685
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: Fine, they've earned that with this free reign to go

686
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: from free agency free agency. I mean this what was

687
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: his name?

688
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: Shuck?

689
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: It looks like show, is that, but it's pronounced shuck.

690
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: The quarterback that got taken out of Louisville, right, he

691
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: was the third quarterback taken in this draft.

692
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: Seven years of college seven seven years.

693
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Speaker 2: He's twenty six years old and he played seven years

694
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Speaker 2: of college college.

695
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: I haven't seen what happened with the rest of them.

696
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: There's like one hundred and forty guys into trans reporter

697
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: with no eligibility, right, with no eligibility, waiting on the

698
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: NCAAT to rule to give him another year. I mean,

699
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: I do, You're thirty years old.

700
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: Go home. These guys go on and on and on.

701
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: I mean, look at what Carson Beck.

702
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: He leaves Georgia, Georgia to go to the U for

703
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: four million dollars.

704
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, howl? Was he howl? Is he twenty eight right now?

705
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: No?

706
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: No, No, Beck, Beck's only he's still relatively This guy

707
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Shucked is the way it's pronounced.

708
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: It looks like show or something like that.

709
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 4: Some reason cousin Beck was allowed.

710
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: It just seems like he's been around for us.

711
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: He's been around for a while. I think he's got

712
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 4: a wife and three kids, mortgage.

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00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: But this guy played seven years and I'm sure his

714
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: one year at Louisville he collected a pretty good dime

715
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: to extend his college and it pays off. I mean,

716
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: the guy ends up the third quarterback taking in this draft.

717
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

718
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see guys stay longer at the

719
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: collegiate level. As you said, in the case of Shudor Sanders,

720
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: essentially he's going to be taking a pay cut.

721
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's a big pay cut.

722
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Speaker 3: Right, my god.

723
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Speaker 4: But he had run out of LA I said it earlier.

724
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: These guys all all professionals now, so there is no

725
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: more amateur status. So collegiate no pros.

726
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

727
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: So his attitude apparently was I'm not here to impress you,

728
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: You're here to impress me.

729
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and some guys do not feel well about that.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you can stream this show and all

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Speaker 2: Radio and the iHeartRadio app will always pop up at

741
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Speaker 2: the top of your screen. All right, Coming up on

742
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: the other side, we're gonna start digging into these NBA playoffs.

743
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh yes, some interesting series go on. And I'm gonna

744
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: ask this of Olden. Who goes deeper in these playoffs?

745
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: Will be the Lakers or the Clippers.

746
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: Will break it down. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

747
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Speaker 2: Don't listening to Fox Sports, Steve Hartman, Olden Polines.

748
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: Here Fox Sports Saturday.

749
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Speaker 2: We're coming live from the entire rack dot com studios.

750
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: All right, we'll lay to rest for a moment, the

751
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: shed Door Sanders story, the rest of the NFL Draft,

752
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 2: and get our focus on these NBA playoffs. First round.

753
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 2: You know again, Memphis, no surprise, quick casualty. Looks like

754
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: Cleveland is going to be on their way to a

755
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: nice series sweep as well. So, I mean, some of

756
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: these early series are are really should not even be series,

757
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: And just you know, it's ridiculous having to drag teams

758
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: in with losing records into the postseason. However, there are

759
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: a couple series that are very interesting right now, and

760
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna ask you a question. Right as

761
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: I went into the break Olden, right now, you have

762
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers were the three seed in the West and

763
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: the Clippers were the five seed in the West. You

764
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: spent part of your fifteen year NBA career with the Clippers.

765
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: So my question to you is this, when the playoffs

766
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: are done, which team will go deeper in this year's playoffs?

767
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: Will it be the Lakers or will it be the Clippers.

768
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: My logical mind tells me it's going to be the Clippers,

769
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: right only because the Nuggets are all over the place,

770
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: well they were the other night, and I don't know

771
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: what they're gonna get from Michael Porter Junior. You know,

772
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: Jamal is still you know, laboring some something. But anyway,

773
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: I say the Clippers off the top of my head.

774
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: But we always have to say this. The NBA is

775
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: way better when the Lakers are involved in playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Okay, can I can I slow you down for a second.

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00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: So I I'm not a huge conspiracy guy, but this

778
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: year I'm all over the conspiracy. I mean, it started

779
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: with Memphis firing Jenkins their coach right before a showdown

780
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: matchup at home against the Lakers, which at the time

781
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: was potentially a tiebreaker time. You know, it's like, out

782
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: of the blue, after six years, they're going to fire

783
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: Jenkins right before this game. And of course what happened.

784
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: The Grizzlies lost that game at home to the Lakers.

785
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: Advantage Lakers, and then you're like, Okay, which team has

786
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: eliminated the Lakers in the playoffs the last two years?

787
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: Oh, that's right, the Denver Necks.

788
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 2: Let's have them fire their coach with three games left

789
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 2: in the regular season. And we're not even going to

790
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: get into the logistics of the tray where they stole

791
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 2: Luka Doncic from the Dallas Mavericks. I mean, when you

792
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: look at a player of that caliber, he should have

793
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: netted the Mavericks seven number one picks based on what

794
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: we saw Durant and the Phoenix Sun straight on we're talking,

795
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: or how about when Paul George was acquired by the

796
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: Clippers from Okase what six seven and Shay Gildis Alexander.

797
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: A young player.

798
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean, just it was an absolute giveaway and you

799
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: have a missioner basically hide from any questions about, you know,

800
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: the legitiacy of that trade or these sudden We have

801
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: never had two teams well on their way in the

802
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: playoffs in the case of Memphis endeavor fire their coach

803
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: in the last ten games of the season.

804
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Speaker 3: It's never happened in this or the NBA.

805
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: And you're looking at all these coincidences and they all

806
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: help one team, the Lakers.

807
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm okay. You know, I grew up a

808
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 4: Laker fans, so I'm okay with that to a certain extent.

809
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: But I fall in line with you on the conspiracy

810
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: aspect of it, because it is weird. We've never seen that.

811
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: It's not like they were losing. That's the problem. It's

812
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: not like they were losing like with eighteen and forty

813
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 4: or whatever. It's we're right there in the playoffs. We're

814
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 4: in the hunt with veteran coaches, with veteran coaches, and

815
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 4: I'm a year removed from a championship right with Mike Malone.

816
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 4: That's insane to me. And so again back to your question,

817
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: I do see the Clippers advance past the Nuggets because

818
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 4: I don't think the Lakers can beat Minnesota. I really don't.

819
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 4: They just too long.

820
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: Well, you watched yesterday and you know Lebron played out

821
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: of his mind. By the way, I have another prediction

822
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: here that this will be Lebron's last year as a Laker.

823
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: Now you watch last night's game and you're like nuts,

824
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, Okay, I'm watching Luka Danchets. I know

825
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: he wasn't feeling well yesterday, so he was out of

826
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: sorts and obviously.

827
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: Didn't have a look.

828
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: Had Tommy Ako?

829
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah apparently so.

830
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: But he's a twenty just turned twenty six year old

831
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: superstar and you got to build around He is the

832
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: Lakers right now, it's got the number one selling jersey

833
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: in the league. You go to a Laker game, now

834
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: everyone's wearing seventy seven Lukadanchets. It's not Lebron's team anymore.

835
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: But you got to figure out how to put the

836
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: right pieces around him. They need more interior defense. They

837
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: were outscored in the paint fifty six twenty six last sight,

838
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean, absolute domination by Minnesota. So they need pieces

839
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: and they got one movable piece and that's Lebron James. Now,

840
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: Lebron would have to agree to it. I mean, that's

841
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: a big asking, especially with Browny in the league. But

842
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 2: I mean his last thing he wanted to do was

843
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: to play with Bronny Done. I mean, you did it,

844
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: all right, So there you got your chance to play

845
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: with your kid. I don't know, I just I believe

846
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: that this is it for lebron James.

847
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm gonna hold you to that. I'm

848
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: gonna remember you said this on this day, but I

849
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 4: don't think that's gonna happen.

850
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 3: Oh by the way, on the other side, I'm gonna

851
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: ask you about one other thing that happened in that

852
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: game last night that absolutely I'll tell you what it is.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be joined by Mark Medina, our NBA

864
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: insider will have Deald into a little bit deeper into

865
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: these NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the big story of the day was the full fall.

867
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Speaker 2: Of Shador Sanders all the way to the one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty fourth pick in this year's NFL draft. Plenty's

869
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: going to be talked about that over the weeks. I

870
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: had more try to inside of some of the things

871
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: that are happening. By the way, the one story that

872
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: has come out is that the meeting that he had

873
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: with Brian Dable and.

874
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: The Giants was a disaster, and that was a team

875
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: that was definitely targeting quarterback.

876
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 2: At least we assumed at the time, and as it

877
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: turned out, that's exactly what they did when they traded

878
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: up into the late first round to take Jackson Dart

879
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: as their quarterback of the future. So as far as

880
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: Door Sanders concerned, Olden, you and I are in lockstep.

881
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's not a great situation for him

882
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: being a fifth round pick, but if he could have

883
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: picked a situation in the fifth round, he couldn't have

884
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: picked a better situation than the one he has in

885
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: Cleveland right now, where obviously Deshaun Watson is out, Joe

886
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: Flacco was brought in as an emergency forty year old quarterback.

887
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: You bring in Kenny Pickett has proven that he's not

888
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: a starting quarterback in the NFL, and then you have

889
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: a fellow rookie and Dylan Gabriel in the same draft.

890
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: So he's he's got a chance.

891
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 2: He I mean, he really has a chance to eventually

892
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: if he plays well, plays to the level that he

893
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 2: professes he's capable of playing. It's a much different game

894
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: at the NFL level. But if he can pull it off,

895
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: there is every chance for him to earn that starting

896
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: job with the Cleveland Browns.

897
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: Oh definitely. And you know, I gotta go to this

898
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: statement right quick. Besides the Brian Daviles situation. I'm a

899
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: Giants fan and I just knew we were going to

900
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 4: grab Shaduah in that moment, but you know, win a

901
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: different route. But because I didn't know about the whole

902
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 4: meeting and the assignment he was given. So I say

903
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 4: that to say this. You know, young young people out there,

904
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 4: anybody listening, you're a professional. Act Accordingly, you have to

905
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 4: if if somebody that holds your playing future, your draft

906
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: status in their hands, there's some things you're gonna have

907
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: to like adhere to and so it's okay. But what

908
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: I was really laughing about earlier is the fact that

909
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: Shiloh Sanders, Dion's other son and you know, teammates with

910
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: his brother, of course, said uh yeah, I gotta get

911
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: me a new agent because dad just didn't work out well.

912
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: But those who think about this, so Shador Sanders has

913
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: only had one coach, that's it, one.

914
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: Coach, one dad. His dad has been this coach.

915
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: And obviously no one cares more about Shador Sanders's future

916
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: than his father.

917
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: There's no question about.

918
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: That, definitely.

919
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: But when you are suddenly put in front of somebody

920
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: that is going to be your second coach and they're

921
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: not coming off in a way that you perceive is

922
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: the right way to interact with you, and then you

923
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 2: voice your opinion about that, oh yeah, I mean this

924
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: is a danger sign for coaches. And again in the

925
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: NFL we talk about all those Hall of Fame quarterbacks

926
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: and isn't an amazing how many Hall of Fame quarterbacks

927
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: had Hall of Fame coaches the.

928
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: Old I mean who made who?

929
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: The whole Belichick Brady situation that we had for years

930
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: and years, Who made who? And then Brady leaves and

931
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: wins the Super Bowl in Tampa Bay. So coaches and

932
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: players have to be on the same page in the NFL,

933
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: and the quarterbacks will make or break coaches, and that's

934
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: just the way it is. And if you're not comfortable,

935
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: as Brian Dable obviously was not comfortable with Stuter Sanders,

936
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: and maybe the fact that hey, I'm not your father,

937
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: I'm Brian Dabele and this is the way I like

938
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: to do things, and if you're not comfortable with that,

939
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: then we can't be partners.

940
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: Can't do it.

941
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but I still believe this underlying things going

942
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: on too with this kid, you know, whether it's Dion

943
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 4: or his braggadocious attitude. But I'm like, wait a minute now,

944
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 4: Johnny manzaih o Cho Senko, you know so many guys,

945
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, we can go. We can pick so many

946
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: players that have outward personalities. Sure, you know, so people

947
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: really started getting to the point where they were just

948
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: nitpicking on stuff. It's like, for all accounts, out sided

949
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: the fact that he's kind of flashy like his dad,

950
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: because he had a great teacher, he's a really good kid.

951
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: There's no there's nothing going on about him, like there's

952
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 4: no issues, there's no drunk driving, there's no no allegations, nothing, but.

953
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Older one hundred percent them in locks up with what

954
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 2: you're saying, which to me gets back to talent. Talent

955
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 2: wins out every time you will ignore. We have seen

956
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: teams over the years ignore warning signs about certain athletes

957
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: because they got talent, and so they're like, we're not

958
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: worried about all that other stuff because look at this

959
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: guy's talent. I mean, Major League Baseball, how many guys

960
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: were going through multiple drug suspensions and yet they were

961
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: continuously put back out on the field.

962
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 3: Why because they could still pitch, they could still hit exactly.

963
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you remember Leonard Little, the defensive lineman for

964
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: the Rams. He killed a mother of four in a

965
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: drunk driving situation, and then he got busted again for

966
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: a dui.

967
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: But as long as he was piling up sacks, he's

968
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 3: still at his job in the NFL. Yeah, so he's amazing.

969
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: So I just get back to a lot of concerns

970
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: that people actually had in Shudor Sanders as a quarterback.

971
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: He's not mobile, which is sort of the new wave.

972
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: I mean again, negative one hundred and twenty seven yards

973
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: rushing in his time at Colorado. And I said it

974
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: a year ago, it's not just taking sacks. You can

975
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: talk about offensive line, but when you're taking sacks, when

976
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 2: you're hanging on forever, your offensive line can only hold

977
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: them off.

978
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: And you can't be going backwards.

979
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: You can't take fifteen yard sacks in the NFL. And

980
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: so these are quick decisions because, look, there are two

981
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: things a quarterback has to be able to do to

982
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: play at a high level in the NFL. One is

983
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: you have to be able to throw the ball accurately

984
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: under pressure.

985
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: And secondly, you've got to make those quick decisions.

986
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: I mean the quick decisions like the ball snap, who

987
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: do I throw two, When do I check down? When

988
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: do I throw it away? When do I take a sack?

989
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: When do I take off run? These are literally split

990
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: second decisions that the great quarterbacks know how to make.

991
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: And so if there are questions about that of a

992
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: quarterback coming into the draft, that is something that is

993
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: recognized across the league, which you can say, well, maybe

994
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: a few teams weren't interested. Well, the majority of the

995
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: teams in this year's draft weren't even looking for a quarterback.

996
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: That's why when a quarterback falls down to day three, Okay, now, yeah,

997
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: sure we're looking for a quarterback, maybe a backup, fourth, fifth,

998
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: sixth round pick.

999
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: We could look for a quarterback.

1000
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: But I think there are a number of factors and

1001
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: not just personality or anything like that when it comes

1002
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: to why should or Sanders fell into the fifth round.

1003
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're not gonna we're not gonna look at that.

1004
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: We're gonna look for all the other stuff, of course,

1005
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 4: and that's human nature. Oh my god, it's because of Diana,

1006
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 4: is because of this, and again you have to balance

1007
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: it out. I think he was a little bit of

1008
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: an experiment also to show like, hey, you know what,

1009
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: to your point, we're actually looking at your skill set. Yeah, yeah,

1010
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: what are you not aligning for the first round?

1011
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 2: They break it down, I mean you, I mean they

1012
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: will watch constantly and they'll look and they're like, well,

1013
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't have he has an average arm. He throws

1014
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: an accurate deep ball that is a plus, but his

1015
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: accuracy on the short throws isn't what it should be.

1016
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: And then his decision making and taking all those huge

1017
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: losses and sacks and he's not a threat to take

1018
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: off with the ball. And you know, do like Jalen Milroe?

1019
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: Can do you watch Jalen Milrow and all of a

1020
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: sudden you're thinking, or Jalen Hurts are obviously Lamar Jackson.

1021
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 3: Are quarterbacks like that?

1022
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: Bo Nix is that kind of a quarterback who can

1023
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: take off and run and get you yards with his leg?

1024
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: Oh definitely. And I watched this kid. I watched every game.

1025
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: He ate the ball more than anybody I've ever seen, right,

1026
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 4: And it was I do just get rid of it.

1027
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 3: You can't take negative yards.

1028
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: Just get rid of the ball. Please, just get rid

1029
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: of it.

1030
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: See, those are the split decisions you have to make

1031
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 2: that you have to make. And everything is so much

1032
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: faster at the NFL level.

1033
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 4: And the bigger and stronger and faster in the.

1034
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 2: NFL A hundreds, I'll agree with you on this. He's

1035
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: a tough kid. I mean he took a pounding yeah,

1036
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: in two years of Colorado. Then the other part of

1037
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: it is this when you look at some of the

1038
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 2: other premier quarterbacks in this draft, and again the Louisville

1039
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: guys on the outside, I'm not sure, but I mean

1040
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: they played where the SCC, they played in the you know,

1041
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: and or the Big ten, and then all of a sudden,

1042
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 2: you're like, he played in the Big twelve at least

1043
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: his last year. The first year obviously in the Pack

1044
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 2: to Pac twelve. But the Big twelve is notorious as

1045
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: a conference where quarterbacks have overinflated numbers because it's just

1046
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: not a conference that has a lot of great defensive teams.

1047
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: And so that's the other warning sign. So again, last

1048
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: word on shud Or Sanders. He's going to get an

1049
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: opportunity with Cleveland Browns. And that's all you ever want

1050
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: for every player the here's their name called in the draft.

1051
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: All you want to say is give me a chance,

1052
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: and he's going to get that. By the way, for

1053
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1073
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Speaker 2: last pig of the draft change dramatically of brock Perty.

1074
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Speaker 3: By the way, if you're the forty nine ers, are

1075
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 3: gonna give this guy who at fifty million a year

1076
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: the unium fifty millionaire.

1077
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 4: Somewhere around there. But I don't think i'd give them fifty.

1078
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: I might give them forty.

1079
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

1080
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of high paid athletes, that's a lot of

1081
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: guys in the NBA these days. The NBA Playoffs are

1082
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Speaker 2: off and running and joining us right now to break

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Speaker 2: down what we're seeing is our NBA insider Mark Medina. Mark,

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Speaker 2: I'm here with Olden. I want to get to the

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Speaker 2: Lakers right out of the box. So most of these

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Speaker 2: playoffs series are going to form the Lakers. However, is

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Speaker 2: a three seed. We were talking about this a week ago, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know in Minnesota, could give them a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a tussle. Didn't seem to lee a

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Speaker 2: lot of concern. There's a lot of concern right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's go worst case scenario. Let's say the Lakers lose

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Speaker 2: this series in the first round to the Timberwolves. What

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Speaker 2: would be the fallout, if any, for the Lakers moving forward.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting, I think regardless of what happens

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Speaker 8: with the Lakers playoffs, it's still going to be the same.

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Speaker 8: How can they get some rim protection and some other

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Speaker 8: defenders around Lebron James and Luka Dacic, because when you

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Speaker 8: look at their weaknesses so far against Minnesota, yeah, it

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Speaker 8: didn't help that, you know, we just deal with some

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Speaker 8: food bugs and not feeling one hundred percent. But they

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Speaker 8: haven't defended well at the perimeter. They haven't defended well.

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Speaker 1: At the rim.

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Speaker 8: Anthony Edwards has you know, been able to produce a

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Speaker 8: high level partly because he's you know, scoring on a

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Speaker 8: layup lie And so I think that's the emphasis number one.

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Speaker 8: But whether it's first round, sweep, second round, or you know,

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Speaker 8: if they go on a prolonged playoff run, I think

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Speaker 8: that moving forward, it's about having those kind of that

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Speaker 8: kind of rim protection and perimeter defensive presence so that

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Speaker 8: things are easier next season.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Mark Olden here, I wanted, let's stay with the

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Speaker 4: Lakers for a bit, and I kept saying this. You know,

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Speaker 4: we saw, like you mentioned Anthony Edwards, but Jason, I

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Speaker 4: mean Jade McDaniels, it was insane how many layups he had,

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Speaker 4: three point plays and everything else. So and I kept

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Speaker 4: asking the question, I want your thoughts on this. Luca

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Speaker 4: and Lebron always revert back to their natural instincts of

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Speaker 4: trying to take over. I mean, do you believe that's

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Speaker 4: a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 1: It can be.

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Speaker 8: It really depends them. Taking over a game can produce

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Speaker 8: a lot of greatness as long as they're playing both

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Speaker 8: ends of the floor and there's enough reinforcement. But it

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Speaker 8: can be a recipe for disaster, as you outlined, if

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Speaker 8: it's just one on one ball and they're trying to

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Speaker 8: have highlight reels and produce too much. I think it's

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Speaker 8: very telling hole that, you know, Lucat Doctors played at

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Speaker 8: such a high level in Game one, but it didn't

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Speaker 8: matter because the offense, which is not moving around, there

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Speaker 8: was very little ball movement and there wasn't enough defensive engagement.

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Speaker 8: And so I don't have a problem necessarily if one

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Speaker 8: or two of those star players are taking over a game,

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Speaker 8: but everything else has to come along with it. It

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Speaker 8: has to be a balanced offense, it has to be

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Speaker 8: a lot of bald movement, and they have to care

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Speaker 8: about defense. I was very surprised that the Lakers were

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Speaker 8: respectable on defense after the Anthony Davis trade, but we're

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Speaker 8: really What it came down to is you had guys

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Speaker 8: actually trying, whether Jackson Hayes at the center spot, a

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Speaker 8: lot of small players, you know, making stops on the perimeter,

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Speaker 8: and that's gotten away from them. I think in this

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Speaker 8: playoff series, again, Minnesota is a really good team. It's

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Speaker 8: not like they're playing against scrub players. But I think

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Speaker 8: it's inexcusable for them to leave you know, guys like

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Speaker 8: Nas Reed or Jane McDaniels wide open from three. I

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Speaker 8: understand you're playing the percentages, but you also have to

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Speaker 8: respect your opponents. So I think if they just care,

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Speaker 8: it'll make a world lead difference in Game four.

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Speaker 2: Speaking in respect, the Clippers deserve a lot of respect

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Speaker 2: if they can keep Kawhi.

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Speaker 3: Leonard on the floor.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're reminded his remarkable Game two performance that

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Speaker 2: when he is healthy and on his game, he's a

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Speaker 2: top five player in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any question about that.

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Speaker 2: The only question is can he do it for the

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Speaker 2: duration of the entire playoffs like he did in winning

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals MVP Awards with both San Antonio and Toronto.

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Speaker 2: But let's go best case scenario for the Clippers, and

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Speaker 2: let's say their big four continues to play at a

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Speaker 2: high level and stay on the court. Is it conceivable

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Speaker 2: that the Clippers could run the table and win a

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Speaker 2: championship with this team.

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Speaker 8: I guess there is a chance, because one healthy Kawhi

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Speaker 8: Leonard is an elite player. James Harden is still playing

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Speaker 8: elite level. Tylo is a masterful coach that gets the

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Speaker 8: most out of the stars and rotation players and makes

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Speaker 8: good adjustments. Aaviza Zubos has become a really dominant big

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Speaker 8: ban on both ends of the four. But I think

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Speaker 8: even at their best, they're still going to run into

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Speaker 8: a buzzsaw that is the Oklahoma City Thunder. But I

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Speaker 8: think to the larger point that you're alluding to with

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Speaker 8: Kawhi Leonard, look like no one can ever guarantee anything,

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Speaker 8: And there's a lot of good reasons to feel skeptical

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Speaker 8: about Kawhi staying healthy, just simply because of his injury history,

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Speaker 8: But there have been encouraging signs that this could be

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Speaker 8: in our repeat could be different because of the fact

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Speaker 8: that when he was out the season, it was at

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Speaker 8: the beginning of the season when he was rehabbing from

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Speaker 8: that right knee information that limited him during the playoffs

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Speaker 8: last year kept him out for the entire Paris Olympics,

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Speaker 8: and in past season he was either all load management

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00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 8: throughout the season or entering the playoffs not fully one

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Speaker 8: hundred percent. This time around, the last two months, he

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Speaker 8: hasn't had a minute restriction, he hasn't really missed back

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Speaker 8: to back. He's playing at a high level, and so

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Speaker 8: while you never rule anything out because of Kawhi's injury history,

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Speaker 8: there have been different developments this season that leave you,

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Speaker 8: I guess, relatively more optimistic he can be healthier than

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Speaker 8: his entire career the last few seasons with the Clippers.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Mark, I want to I want you to take

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Speaker 4: on this right quick. I've watched every game and I'm

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Speaker 4: sure you have as well. The physicality of the playoffs

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Speaker 4: is reminiscent of the nineties. Yeah, well, was there a

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Speaker 4: memo that was sent out that we met.

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Speaker 8: You know a lot of these some of these memos

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Speaker 8: are secret as you know, some of them get out.

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Speaker 8: But oh, I would also keep in mind this dates

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Speaker 8: back a little bit to the second half of last season.

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Speaker 8: There was a memo emphasis about calling fewer fouls because

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00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 8: the NBA felt like, you know, it just really disrupts

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Speaker 8: the flow of the game. It was making games really long,

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00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 8: it was making you know, people tune out. And I

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Speaker 8: think that that's carried over into the season. I think

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Speaker 8: there's also you know, some unique makeups of the playoffs

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Speaker 8: here where you have the Houston Rockets. They're a young

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Speaker 8: team that's really successful, and they've always view the Warriors

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Speaker 8: as a team with the stain because even though it's

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Speaker 8: a completely different roster, they have that playoff history. When

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Speaker 8: you're looking at the Eastern Conference, the Detroit Pistons is

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Speaker 8: the New York Knicks. I mean, historically those are teams

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Speaker 8: that have always been physical, and so I think it's

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Speaker 8: a combination of the teams themselves. But also, as you

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Speaker 8: alluded to a secret memo or not, there has been

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Speaker 8: an emphasis even in this day and age, of high

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Speaker 8: score and offenses at least called few or foul. So

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Speaker 8: it's not a three hour viewing experience of guys just

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00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 8: trading free throws back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Cleveland Cavaliers just put a beat down on

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Speaker 2: the Heat today, up three to zero in that.

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Speaker 3: Series, and no Darius Garland. Yeah, by the way, Charles

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Speaker 3: Barkley called him out almost like he's faking.

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Speaker 2: That toe injury apparently. I mean it was like, are

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Speaker 2: you kidding me? You're out of a playoff game with

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Speaker 2: a what a toe issue, which.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Garland apparently has had.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I keep looking at this Cavs team

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Speaker 2: and everyone seemingly just conceding the east of the Celtics,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying the champs shouldn't be favored. But

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Speaker 2: when you look at this Cavaliers team and when you

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Speaker 2: guys got you know, when you got Hunter and Jerome

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Speaker 2: coming off the bench.

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Speaker 3: I mean they have two of the best guys off

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01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 3: the bench in the NBA. One of the.

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Speaker 2: Best back courts in the NBA. Mobile was Defensive Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year. Why are we so quick to dismiss

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Speaker 2: the Cavaliers as a serious challenge for the Celtics to

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Speaker 2: get to the NBA Finals out of the East.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we shouldn't be dismissing the Cavaliers because they've gotten

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Speaker 8: the number one seed for a reason. They've been very dominant.

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Speaker 8: I think that instinctually some there's been, you know, a

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Speaker 8: reflex where we've seen some regular seasons teams dominate really

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Speaker 8: well and then flame out in the playoffs. And I

1244
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 8: think there's wonder minute as this team going to be it,

1245
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Speaker 8: But I don't think so, because you've seen Kenny Atkinson

1246
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 8: make an instant impact with them being just a lot

1247
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 8: more efficient on offense. When you're looking at their star

1248
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 8: players with Don Mitchell, Darius Garland, Evan Mogley, Jared Allen,

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Speaker 8: they all compliment each other. Well, there's no egos. I

1250
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Speaker 8: think before the playoffs started, I did give an edge

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Speaker 8: to the Boston Celtics because they're the defending champs. They

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01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 8: also have shown that they could absorb an off night

1253
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Speaker 8: from one of their stars, whether it's Jason Tatum or

1254
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 8: Jalen Brown or chrisos Erzingis being hurt a lot better

1255
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Speaker 8: than what we saw with Cleveland during the regular season.

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Speaker 8: There's a four game stretch in March when Donovan Mitchell

1257
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 8: wasn't shooting the ball well, and that coincided with the

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Speaker 8: Cavs losses. But I think what we've seen this playoffs,

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Speaker 8: even though it's the first round, the Miami Heat is

1260
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Speaker 8: out of those and this game in particular, he didn't

1261
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Speaker 8: have Garland, he didn't have Mitchell shooting the ball well either.

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Speaker 8: Yet they were so dominant because the chemistry of them,

1263
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 8: of Mobile and Jared Allen are great. They've expanded their

1264
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 8: offensive games. You mentioned the DeAndre Hunter acquisition that they

1265
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 8: got post trade deadline. He's a very key factor because

1266
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 8: he provides a lot of pre defense. And so who

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Speaker 8: do I edge an Eastern Conference assuming this is going

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Speaker 8: to happen in the finals? Whip a coin, but assuming

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Speaker 8: no major injuries from either side. I think what we're

1270
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Speaker 8: gonna see is seven games, every game going down to

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Speaker 8: the wire in regulation or overtime, and it's going to

1272
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Speaker 8: come down to a handful of possessions here or there,

1273
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Speaker 8: and which team makes the most winning plays will wind

1274
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Speaker 8: up on top of it. It's going to make for

1275
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Speaker 8: very compelling playoff basketball.

1276
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Speaker 4: Hey, Matt, do you have a vote from MVP?

1277
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Speaker 8: I have stopped voting because of all the politics with it.

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Speaker 4: In my question, Okay, so I'll just let you go on.

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Speaker 3: You use that magic word, you ask the MVP award

1280
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Speaker 3: should go to Well, I was gonna ask, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think if Shae gojes Ouxander Nikole Jokic win, they

1282
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Speaker 8: deserve it. But if I had to go and Hi

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Speaker 8: to choose, it would be because he's taking his game

1284
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Speaker 8: to another level. You know, you want to reward players

1285
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Speaker 8: that are on, you know, the best teams. But it's

1286
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Speaker 8: not so much of the fact that, oh, he's on

1287
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 8: a winning team and probably a better roster. He has

1288
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,479
Speaker 8: really made that engine go. It's not just the fact

1289
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Speaker 8: that he's led the league in scoring. He's elevated his

1290
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 8: teammates around him, whether it's Shalen Williams becoming an All Star,

1291
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Speaker 8: being a better scorer, the pick and roll game with

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Speaker 8: him and chet Holm grin, same thing with Isaiah Hartenstein.

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Speaker 8: I think it's telling that even though this is a

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01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 8: very small sample size and I don't think it will

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 8: reflect the actual voter turnout when the bullet when the

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Speaker 8: ballots are public. But I talked to I think five

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01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 8: four assistant coaches last week anonymously from you know, different

1298
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 8: teams not named the thunder Nuggets, and all of them

1299
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 8: picked Shake, Gilgess Alexander for the reason I outlined. But

1300
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 8: that being said, they also are saying, you know what,

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01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 8: Yoka is playing an unbelievable level. It's a triple double.

1302
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 8: And so when they're giving some of these reasons why

1303
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 8: they picked Shay, it was almost like, you know what,

1304
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 8: it's so close, I have to split hairs. But the

1305
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 8: bottom line is they just felt like Shay has taken

1306
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 8: to his game to another level and they really want

1307
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 8: to avoid reward the fact that he's played the most

1308
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 8: significant reason why the thunder have been the top team

1309
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 8: in the Western Conference.

1310
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a problem with him winning. But again,

1311
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: when we look at Nikola.

1312
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 2: Jokic, thirty four triple doubles to zero for Shay Gildess

1313
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 2: Alexander the Yeah, fifty nine double doubles to Shay Gildes's six.

1314
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: I mean so they can't win. Yeah, so Nuggets can't

1315
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: win without Jokic.

1316
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 2: No, well, I mean again, I just he to me

1317
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 2: is just in his own zip code these days.

1318
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: The way I look at it.

1319
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: Hey, Mark, great stuff is always We'll see what happens

1320
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: in another very busy week on the playoffs seamless.

1321
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 3: We'll find out the Lakers survive. That is going to

1322
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 3: be the big story coming out of this week, that's

1323
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,959
Speaker 3: for sure. Mark. We always appreciate at the time. Thanks

1324
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 3: so much. We'll talk to you next week.

1325
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 8: Mark, I appreciate you guys are the best.

1326
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

1327
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 5: Aria.

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 2: It is a great Mark. But din r NBA insider. Now,

1329
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 2: let's find out what is trending. Speaking of insiders, Martin

1330
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 2: is it's in the house right now.

1331
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Martin, have I gotten your opinion on my

1332
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 3: prediction that this is Lebron's last year as a Laker?

1333
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 3: You have, yes, I have.

1334
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1335
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 3: I think it's absurd. I thought that was like bullet

1336
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: proof glass, that you're behind until I saw you launch

1337
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 3: at me, and I was a little shaken up by

1338
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: that because you rattled that room.

1339
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 7: See, you're a man who's been doing this for years.

1340
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 7: Your opinion and voice carries a certain level of gravitas

1341
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 7: and importance in sports talk radio, and it upsets me

1342
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 7: when you.

1343
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: Use that power for evil. You understand that.

1344
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: I am one that has said time and time again

1345
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: for about a decade now that Lebron.

1346
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: Is the goat. That's all go He is the goat.

1347
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: I no one has his resume period exclamation point. That

1348
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: being said, it's Luka Dodge's team, and they're gonna do

1349
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: what's best for Luca and not what's best for Lebron.

1350
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: See, all of these things makes sense.

1351
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 7: It's like you said, the moon when it's darkout, it

1352
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 7: comes up, it lights up the sky. You know, it's

1353
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 7: easier to see, and then it's made of cheese.

1354
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: No, you were right until the last one, Steve, that's

1355
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 3: the problem. That's the problem.

1356
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 7: Speaking of the last one, last pick of the NFL Draft,

1357
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 7: mister irrelevant Kobe Minor, cornerback from Memphis is the newest

1358
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 7: New England Patriot. Speaking of new team members, the Cleveland

1359
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 7: Browns traded up with the Seattle Seahawks to select Shador

1360
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 7: Sanders with the one hundred and forty fourth overall pick

1361
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 7: in the fifth round on Saturday. They also selected quarterback

1362
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel in the third round, so Shador was not

1363
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 7: the second quarterback draft. He's actually the second quarterback drafted

1364
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 7: by his own team. The Seahawks traded quarterback Sam Howell

1365
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 7: to the Vikings after they traded him with a fifth

1366
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 7: round pick in exchange for a fifth round pick and

1367
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 7: the quarterback they drafted Alabama Jalen Miilroe in the third round,

1368
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 7: So Sam Howell was a little redundant there. Pittsburgh Steelers

1369
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 7: did draft the quarterback after passing on Trudur Sanders at

1370
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 7: twenty one and every other pick until the fifth round.

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 7: They drafted Will Howard out of Ohio State in the

1372
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Speaker 7: sixth round. In the NBA, A little brew haha going

1373
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 7: into halftime between the Clippers and the Nuggets loop pushing

1374
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 7: and shoving. There it is now halftime, the Nuggets with

1375
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 7: a two point lead, fifty to forty eight. Jokis with

1376
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 7: a fifteen point eight rebound. I'll put thus far. James

1377
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 7: Harden six point seven assists, earlier today B two A

1378
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 7: the Cleveland Cavaliers over the Heat one twenty four to

1379
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 7: eighty seven and the Thunder and the Grizzly season one

1380
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 7: seventeen to one fifteen.

1381
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 3: The Grizzlies getting.

1382
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 7: Swept there Tampa Bay and then get back into the

1383
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 7: series with the Panthers five to one win. Florida leads

1384
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 7: two to one, Golden Knights winning overtime. Florida three series tied.

1385
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 7: They're two to two and Toronto has a three nothing

1386
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 7: lead in the series, but Senators with a one nothing

1387
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 7: lead right now with just under nine minutes left in

1388
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 7: the first period. Steve, remember, with great power comes great responsibility.

1389
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Martin. I am reminded that on

1390
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: a men and by minute basis. Over here, Olden, I

1391
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: had a question for you.

1392
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 4: Talk to me back in the days. Yes, people were

1393
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 4: naming their kids Jordan because of Mju and the young man,

1394
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 4: you know, even though it's a different spelling, Kobe minor. Yes.

1395
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 4: And then there was another young man. His name is

1396
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant, but it's co O B B b E.

1397
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 3: I saw that O B E E Yes.

1398
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: Where the lebron's m.

1399
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 2: Well again, uh, maybe it's something about his personality and

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01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: let me let me take I'm glad you mentioned Lebron

1401
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 2: because I wanted to mention this at the top of

1402
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: the last hour.

1403
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 3: So I'm watching the Laker game last night. I'm sure

1404
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: you were as well. And it was late in the game.

1405
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: The Lakers did not make a shot in the last

1406
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: four and a half minutes of the game as Minnesota

1407
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: pulled away, so there was a dispute about a call,

1408
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: an officials ruling on a call.

1409
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: So there was a time out on.

1410
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 2: The court, and there was Lebron James not just conversing

1411
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: with Anthony Edwards and another member of the Timberwolves team.

1412
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 2: He was yucking it up with them, and I'm.

1413
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 3: Like, what is going on here? He's laughing.

1414
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: You're in a must win game, because I said before

1415
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 2: Game three, this will determine whether the Lakers win the series.

1416
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 3: You win this game, you'll win the series.

1417
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: You lose this game, you lose this Seriously, you know

1418
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: where I stand on the series now.

1419
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: And there is Lebron.

1420
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: Yucking at up, laughing, laughing, talking to members of the

1421
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 2: Timberwolves team during an official time out laid the game

1422
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: when the Lakers are unraveling and that to me is

1423
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: one hundred percent unacceptable. When I talk about goat purely

1424
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 2: on the numbers, there is no For years, I used

1425
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: to say, Where's Kareem? Why is Kareem not in this list?

1426
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 2: Who has a better resume than Kareem Abdul Jabbar? Nobody, nobody,

1427
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 2: not even close number one. But when you look at

1428
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: Lebron's resume now and all the records that he holds,

1429
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 2: and the records he's extended, and the level of play

1430
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: that we have seen from him in this his fortieth

1431
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 2: year on this planet, there is no one that compares.

1432
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 2: So you could talk about peak value versus total value

1433
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 2: of an NBA career. In my world, it's about a

1434
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: total NBA career. Will I say that at his peak

1435
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was better than Lebron.

1436
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: At his peak?

1437
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,759
Speaker 2: Yes, I will say that, But in terms of who's

1438
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 2: had the best career in NBA history, the answer is

1439
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: Lebron James.

1440
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: In my opinion, I agree. I mean, Jesus, what twenty

1441
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: second year got to give it to him? I mean,

1442
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 4: the numbers speak for themselves, but that's not what we

1443
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 4: go by.

1444
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1445
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 4: That's why I never discussed the goat argument, because that's

1446
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 4: what it is, an argument. Just say who do I like?

1447
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 4: Who do you like? That's it?

1448
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: Well, how do you compare eras you played against Michael Jordan?

1449
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: So you obviously saw this up both. Yeah, I mean

1450
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: you you right, but you saw the prime Jordan. Yeah,

1451
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: from the you know, your careers coincided, and you you

1452
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: saw what he did, especially during the day of the nineties,

1453
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 2: by the way, and it was such a different I

1454
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: love how you harken back because you know, I mentioned,

1455
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: like you know, Lebron laughing it up with the te Wolves.

1456
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: I love to see a little skirmish going on between

1457
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: the Nuggets and the Clips. That's as a fan. It's

1458
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: an outsider looking in all my life when it comes

1459
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: to sports and general, especially the NBA, because I always

1460
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 2: had a passion for the Lakers going up. I mean,

1461
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean I started following the Lakers the day they

1462
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: acquired Wilt Chamberlain from the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

1463
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 3: So I was in fifth grade, so.

1464
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: You know, the idea that they weren't going to lose

1465
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: a game that year because Algie was still playing at

1466
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: a high level yet Jerry West, who was my greatest hero,

1467
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 2: and he had Wilt. It was like the idea was

1468
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 2: they're going to go eighty two and zero, and they didn't.

1469
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: Bill Russell beat him one last time in that final year.

1470
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: But I mean, when you played in the NBA, Olden

1471
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: you you literally played in the most physical era in

1472
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: the history of this league. And you know, you talk

1473
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: about the early nineties, how do you how did you survive?

1474
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 2: Because it was a war. And as a fan, that's

1475
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: what I want to see. I want to see players

1476
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 2: have the same intense feelings negatively about their opponents that

1477
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: I as a fan have, and we saw it back

1478
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: in those days.

1479
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 4: Oh definitely. And people always like want to criticize, Oh, well,

1480
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 4: these guys are more athletic, they're more talented. Now, you

1481
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: know what, I'll give you all of that if you want,

1482
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 4: I will, you know, just to not have an argument.

1483
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 4: But nobody worked harder than us. We were out there

1484
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 4: every night giving it all. You know, it was a battle.

1485
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 4: Because do you have any load management?

1486
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: Oh?

1487
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 4: P load? Okay to that point. And I tell people

1488
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: this the reason why no one took a day off

1489
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: when you were hurt, because you were gonna lose your

1490
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 4: job the minute the next guy comes in. Can you

1491
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 4: imagine Vinnie Johnson getting extra minutes. You're not getting your

1492
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 4: job back.

1493
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,879
Speaker 3: Right. Here's what I would like to remind everyone.

1494
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 2: In his last year with the Wizards, Michael Jordan forty

1495
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 2: years old, eighty two games, played them all, yeah, every game,

1496
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: every game, every single game.

1497
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 4: That's why I'm impressed with Chris Paul right now. He

1498
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 4: played all A two at the same level.

1499
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 3: Love guys.

1500
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 2: You know one of our buddies, Cap Mobley Katino, He's

1501
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: gut logged a lot minutes.

1502
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 3: How about Alan Iverson who.

1503
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: Averaged forty one minutes for every game he played in

1504
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: his entire NBA career?

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Speaker 3: What is he six feet, one hundred and sixty five pounds.

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Speaker 2: He wishes exactly one hundred and fifty pounds, and he

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Speaker 2: would average for his entire career.

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Speaker 3: Forty one minutes a night. Crazy.

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Speaker 2: All right, We're coming to life from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: we get off the air. I'm going to get some

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Speaker 2: playoff predictions from this man, Olden Polonies. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Steve Harbin, Olden Polonies. Here, Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: We're coming to live from the Fox Sports Radio studio.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank our crew today, Martin doing the

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: job on the updates.

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Speaker 3: Now he get ready for his own show coming up here.

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: Short Mary Mac.

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01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: They'll got Mary Mack back there. You know how old

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: she is. She just turned if I'm right, twenty two,

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01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: the big two two unbelievable. And then there's our grizzled

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Speaker 2: veteran ian doing a great job as always. Guys, all right,

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01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: as long as I got old in here, I got

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on the remainder of these playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So while the Celtics stumbled.

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01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: On the road against the Magic, we saw what the

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 2: Cavs did today to the Heat. That was just a blowout.

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Speaker 2: When you look at the East right now, Nick's got

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01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: a huge win on the road to take back home

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Speaker 2: court advantage against the Pistons. Let me start with that.

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Speaker 2: Serious Pistons have any shot here or the Knick's going

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: to close this thing out.

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Speaker 4: The Knicks are going to close it out, only because

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01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 4: the Pistons are still in shock and awe that they're

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, you know, and that first game they

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 4: should have won, Oh my god, but you let them

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 4: go on a twenty one oh run. That's unacceptable. And

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Speaker 4: then they bounced back and got to win in New York.

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01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 4: But then they turned around and give it right back

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 4: to the Knicks. So I just think the Knicks are

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Speaker 4: a lot tougher than them, and they're gonna prevail.

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01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people were surprised how easily the

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: Pacers took care of the Bucks first two games in Indiana.

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01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 2: Then the Bucks came back with a big win on

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Speaker 2: their home court. Is this one of those series that

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Speaker 2: goes seven just based on home court?

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01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 4: It feels that way it'll go seven, you know. And

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 4: we still know where Lillard is and all this even

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01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 4: if he does play or when he plays, or how's

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 4: he gonna play, and so everything's gonna run through Giannis.

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01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 4: And I don't think it's enough. And I said this

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: the other day also, I don't trust Doc Rivers.

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01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: Why should you do? You realize that Doc Rivers?

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01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: You know how rare it is for teams to blow a

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01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 2: three to one series lead in the playoffs, hasn't happened

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01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 2: that many times?

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Speaker 3: He's done it three times?

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01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gray, you know Doc is he's so good.

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 3: With the media. You know when the Clippers, when he's

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: Clippers guy, was around them a lot. I get it.

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Speaker 2: But his resume to me is Okay, Rockets, Warriors, all right,

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 2: So series one one now heading to uh Golden State.

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: We got the game tonight, Warriors, Uh, you know, even

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01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: it up against the Rockets getting that first win on

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Speaker 2: the road in game one.

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Speaker 3: How do you see this series going?

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Speaker 4: I see the Warriors winning this series. I do, even

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01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 4: though because they're not a typical seventh seed, you know,

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01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 4: I mean everybody was separated by one game.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler though we still don't know his status for

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 2: Game three as.

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Speaker 4: Going to play. Okay, God, it's like you fell on

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01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 4: your get up. It's like everything hurts.

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01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,919
Speaker 2: These guys, well, you know, they're always looking for excuses.

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01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 2: So you Warriors there, Uh, Clippers, Nuggets.

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01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 4: That's the one as hard. That one's definitely, in my

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01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 4: opinion's going to go seven.

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01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: Well, that game seven then would be in Denver, but

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Speaker 2: we saw them Game seven and Denver against Minnesota last

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01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: year and te Wolves took care of business.

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01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And I think it might end up being

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 4: the same thing, you know, because the Clippers, to me,

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01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 4: on paper, are the better team, I mean, outside of Jokic,

1590
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 4: but Zubat's done a hell of a job keeping him

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01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 4: at bay, you know, because he has to guard him,

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01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 4: and that's wearing on Jokis a little bit.

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: Lakers Timberwolves.

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01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 4: I hate making this statement, but I have to go

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01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 4: to Timberwolves.

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01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they were gonna win Game four tomorrow

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Speaker 3: and go up three to one in the series.

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Speaker 4: Yes, all depressions on the Lakers. The Lakers have to

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Speaker 4: win the game. Well, yeah, they have to win the

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01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 4: three to one. I mean it's not impossible.

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: Obviously, we've seen teams come back for three to one,

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01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: especially if you're going against a Doc Rivers team.

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01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 3: But if they're not this.

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01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 4: Time, but you have no other choice but to win

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 4: the game.

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01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 2: So they have to do that, all right. So let's

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01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 2: let's look into your crystal ball. When it's all said

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01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: and done, which two teams do you think matchup in

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 2: this year's NBA Finals?

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01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 3: I want you.

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01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm on the record about Lebron James, he said, you're

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01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 2: gonna bank that one that he's playing his last season

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 2: as a Laker.

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I am banking that one because I don't know.

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 4: I doubt they're gonna get to the final, because, like

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01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 4: I said, they're gonna lose the Timberwolves. Now I want

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01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 4: to go I think I want to backtrack. I'm doing

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01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 4: a Rob Parker right now.

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01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 3: Don't do that. No, please, don't. All right, I'm gonna

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01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 3: go out on.

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01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out on legend.

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01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 3: All right.

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 4: Here we go Cleveland Cavaliers right out the East, yes,

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01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 4: and Oklahoma seed thunder all right, So you understand that

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01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 4: they should be the favorites.

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01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 3: They're the number one seeds.

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: Right, and it is so obvious that the NBA doesn't

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01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 2: want that. What do you think they rather have Lakers,

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01:19:58,040 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: Celtics or okay, see Cleveland?

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01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 4: Oh man. Nobody wants to go Globe and c That's why.

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 4: So that's my picks. But I think it's gonna be Boston.

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01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: I mean, people forget that first game between the Tea

1634
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: Wolves and the Lakers over there at Crypto dot Com Arena.

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01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: In that game, the Timberwolves were called for twenty one fouls.

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01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 3: The Lakers are called for ten. You know, it's like

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01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: eight on five.

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 4: Eight on five Celtics would be great.

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01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: Well, anything would be great. It's always great to be

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 2: with you, old and we appreciate the time.

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 3: Man. Thanks for stopping by every once in a while

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01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 3: we hook up, which is always great.

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01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 4: Thank you, very good seeing you man.

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01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: All right, much more coming up, folks. We got lots

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01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: to talk about. And yes, Shador Sanders has a home.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Saturday,