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Speaker 1: up your alley. The Athletic Reporter that over the course
Speaker 1: of the season, the Knicks grew increasingly frustrated with cast
Speaker 1: defensive habits. Publicly, Knicks players made veil comments all season
Speaker 1: about poor communications, causing their inconsistency. Behind the scenes, They
Speaker 1: and coaches expressed frustrations with towns defensive habits, less concerned
Speaker 1: with his talent level and more with the process on
Speaker 1: that end. Too often, Towns executed incorrect coverages without communicating
Speaker 1: why he did it. After it became a theme, players word,
Speaker 1: Towns didn't a grasp the importance of the matter, the
Speaker 1: ability to constructively critique became a point of emphasis. Joe,
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe Timms having coached Cat
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, now he's coaching him in New York.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to believe he didn't know what
Speaker 2: he was trading for.
Speaker 1: Floors yours, Nah, I think I think he definitely knew,
Speaker 1: you know, what he was trading for, what they was
Speaker 1: gonna get out of Cat. Now, I understand they want
Speaker 1: him to be more of an anchor, you know, for
Speaker 1: that defense, you know, because he's the big guy. He's
Speaker 1: the last line of defense. Sim Butt Tall. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: the last line of defense, unk O, Choe and I
Speaker 1: guess they expect more of a prisons out of him
Speaker 1: from being in the paint, from when guys coming in
Speaker 1: there alterranch shots, blocking shots.
Speaker 2: They wanted to play both fans on the floor.
Speaker 1: Man, they wanted to be a two way big, not
Speaker 1: just a big who come down, pick and pop and
Speaker 1: shoot three.
Speaker 2: But he's never but Joe, He's never been that.
Speaker 1: Don't I mean, if you buy something chat, no matter
Speaker 1: what you buy, shouldn't you have an idea of what
Speaker 1: you're purchasing. I don't buy a shower curtain hoping. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, this w a duveate. That's not
Speaker 1: what I bought it for. You have to understand when
Speaker 1: you purchase something, what exactly am I purchasing And I'm
Speaker 1: by purchasing it for the reasons. So when I'm looking
Speaker 1: at I'm like, You're like, you're asking Cat to be
Speaker 1: something that he's not.
Speaker 2: Cat has never been a defensive anchor.
Speaker 1: Cat has never really concerned himself about back in because
Speaker 1: why defense, No matter how great your defense is, more
Speaker 1: times than not, in basketball, it's all about the offense.
Speaker 1: It's all about guys that can shoot the three, that
Speaker 1: can put the ball in the basket at a high clip,
Speaker 1: not somebody that can block four or five shots a game.
Speaker 2: Goheto Joe.
Speaker 3: Now I'm getting to ask, Now we all understand I'm
Speaker 3: gonna use in football terms. You understand as a head coach,
Speaker 3: Tims in this matter, you understand your player strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 2: You saying that, and I hear all the time.
Speaker 3: When it comes to basketball in this era that they
Speaker 3: don't play that much defense. I know you understand that
Speaker 3: Cat is an offensive player. You understand that he's a
Speaker 3: liability on the defensive end. And you got him simply
Speaker 3: for that very reason. And I don't think he's not
Speaker 3: a You didn't get him, you know, for a defensive
Speaker 3: prowess despite him being seven be tall.
Speaker 2: You know that's not what he does. Hey, listen said,
Speaker 2: where where's the issue coming from? And you know what,
Speaker 2: you know what you signed up for. I ain't saying
Speaker 2: he got to be this stopper.
Speaker 1: He ain't got to beat god Burn, but he gotta
Speaker 1: have some interest on the defensive end. Fellas, he can't
Speaker 1: just play offense. Like to whom much is giving much
Speaker 1: to require? It's at giving the Cat they wanted to
Speaker 1: step up and play both fans of the floor. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta be a presidence down that defensively and offensively.
Speaker 3: Joe, if he have done that, you think he's gonna
Speaker 3: snap his fingers and all of a sudden he gonna
Speaker 3: be a defensive stopper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get me some interest on the end
Speaker 1: of the floor. Oh Joe, No, No, the coverage know
Speaker 1: what we're doing. You know, I ain't saying you gotta
Speaker 1: step up there and block four five shots a game,
Speaker 1: but you gotta be in tuned with the defensive coverages,
Speaker 1: talking to the guards because they can't see you. The
Speaker 1: last line of defense. You got you the ankor back there.
Speaker 1: You gotta call out the coverages and all that. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. We ask a lot of the bigs
Speaker 1: and and it's it's a tough job. But he's one
Speaker 1: big who can do it. Do you hear what you
Speaker 1: just said.
Speaker 3: It's a tough job, and you say he's one big
Speaker 3: that can do it, But he doesn't do it because
Speaker 3: he understands, depending on how much he exerts on the
Speaker 3: defense end is going to take away from what he can.
Speaker 2: Do on the office end. So we gotta get in
Speaker 2: better shade. We gotta get some shape, or so we
Speaker 2: gotta get in better shape. Show you preached it to
Speaker 2: the choir. I agree with you, And yeah, he gotta
Speaker 2: get in better shave.
Speaker 1: In the last five games of the series, a seven
Speaker 1: foot guy had zero blocks. Let that think it for
Speaker 1: just a second. Yes, chat, you heard me correctly. In
Speaker 1: games two through six, Kat had zero blocks. So that's
Speaker 1: five games. So you mean to tell me, at seven
Speaker 1: foot tall, you couldn't block.
Speaker 2: You couldn't block.
Speaker 1: Nim Hard or a niece Smith or somebody or a saka,
Speaker 1: somebody coming into the bank. Not one person. You couldn't get,
Speaker 1: no one. But like, hey, get that out of here.
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm talking about, just having to talk
Speaker 1: at some point in time. You see, see, defense is
Speaker 1: all about effort. It's just like blocking for a wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the run game. It's all about effort. Blocking, period,
Speaker 1: is about effort. If you don't give, if you don't
Speaker 1: give a d it's gonna show. You can look at
Speaker 1: the teams that run the ball. You tell me aj Brown,
Speaker 1: you tell me DeVonta Smith, you tell me the guys
Speaker 1: in Baltimore ain't blocking. You don't get those kind of
Speaker 1: backs running for those kind of yards. If your wide
Speaker 1: receivers are not blocking, the offensive line job is to
Speaker 1: get him to the line of scrimmage. A lot of
Speaker 1: times untouched. After that, it is the wide receiver's job
Speaker 1: to knock people off it to make sure a I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make your pursuer. I'm gonna excuse me the way
Speaker 1: we blood, O Joe. We made you a chaser, not
Speaker 1: a pursuer. So you're gonna be in a trail position
Speaker 1: because we've already cut you off from the angle, so
Speaker 1: you're not pursuing. You're not gonna catch him at an angle.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to chase him down from behind.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, O Joe. Got a question, Joe, and uh,
Speaker 2: y'all know better than I do.
Speaker 1: What year is cat in? Cat got to be in
Speaker 1: like year eight. Cat came out in what sixteen or seventeen?
Speaker 1: So he year eleven eleven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he going into year eleven. Yeah, he just finished
Speaker 2: your teen.
Speaker 3: Okay, he's going into year eleven. So he's played ten
Speaker 3: years already. So we've seen the simple size enough of
Speaker 3: a simple size of what type of player Cat is. Yeah,
Speaker 3: understood what you were getting. Now we're going in the
Speaker 3: year eleven, and now we complaining about him not giving
Speaker 3: effort and hustle on the defense end when he's never
Speaker 3: done it before.
Speaker 1: But the difference is the problem. And Joe correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Is that when he played with the Timberwolves,
Speaker 1: they didn't really they got That's why they got Rudy,
Speaker 1: so Rudy could take up because they knew Cat wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be a real protector.
Speaker 2: They knew he wasn't gonna be a help, so that's
Speaker 2: why they got Rooty.
Speaker 1: Now you go to Now, you go to the Knicks,
Speaker 1: and you get a Josh Hart, and you got a
Speaker 1: o g Ananobi, and you got a Michael Bridges.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: We just need you to do a little We're not
Speaker 1: asking you to do everything that Don Elijah one did.
Speaker 1: We're not asking you to be Mark Eaton. We're not
Speaker 1: asking you to be big Ben Wallace, bro. But just
Speaker 1: just a little effort. Just care, just pretend you care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Uh okay, I hold yall. I
Speaker 1: know he was he and yeah eleven, I'm sure the
Speaker 1: Knicks brought him man, you know, for for his offensive parales,
Speaker 1: but defensively, he just gotta show more interest on the defensive.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, y'all, can't tell me Kak move his feet,
Speaker 1: stay with guards, block shots.
Speaker 2: He can do it.
Speaker 1: If he wants to, he just chooses not to, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to exert a lot of energy on the
Speaker 1: end of the floor and try to save yourself for offenses.
Speaker 2: Tough, you know what, but the thing gills on.
Speaker 1: Yo. They used to make you exert energy to come
Speaker 1: get that damn check. Now they made a direct deposit.
Speaker 1: They made it easy.
Speaker 2: So now nobody got to take their ass upstairs to
Speaker 2: go to payroll.
Speaker 1: When I first got to the league, you had to
Speaker 1: walk your layer's ass upstairs to the window.
Speaker 3: Even if it's direct positive too, and we're gonna open
Speaker 3: it right there. I need I need, I need over
Speaker 3: mine right there on the spot. I need to see
Speaker 3: how much it is. I need to see how much
Speaker 3: came out, and I need to see what went in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know, they got everything out of minds.
Speaker 1: Okay, tickets, you got to extra hotel room, they got
Speaker 1: all that stuff right now, everything like damn tickets caught this.
Speaker 1: But hey, ain't nobody going to the game no more.
Speaker 1: It's it's different when you see that paper and you
Speaker 1: see them minuses on there, you're like, hold on, hold yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But New York in the regular season defense was almost
Speaker 1: three points better per hundred possessions with.
Speaker 2: Towns on the bench. That's what I mean. Look, I
Speaker 2: had a.
Speaker 1: Fabulous I sat down and talked with him this past
Speaker 1: summer last summer, and it was great.
Speaker 2: Sitting down and talking to him. And I know he's
Speaker 2: gone through a lot.
Speaker 1: You know, he lost his mom the COVID and you
Speaker 1: know she was in the hospital and he had and
Speaker 1: I understand he's great in the community, but Cat, you
Speaker 1: got to care more on the defensive end because it's
Speaker 1: just it's all about and you have to understand where
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: It's like a situation.
Speaker 1: Oh like, look, there's certain situations you got to blend
Speaker 1: in in if I know, hey, when I go to
Speaker 1: the barbershop, I go in the hood, I ain't all flashing.
Speaker 2: I got to blend de in. Right.
Speaker 1: You go to New York and you know they're are
Speaker 1: defensive teams. Look at what they have, So you got
Speaker 1: to blend in. I'm not saying all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you turn into Rudy Gobert. I'm not saying you turn
Speaker 1: into Winby. But like Joe said, just care just a little,
Speaker 1: just the little effort.
Speaker 3: I got one more question, Let's what's that next year?
Speaker 3: And eleven he changes losing low weight right and becomes
Speaker 3: a defensive stopper as well. Then we're gonna be complaining
Speaker 3: about his office of game falling off and saying he's
Speaker 3: lost a step or we can't shoot no more, or
Speaker 3: he can't be down in the block.
Speaker 1: Why did it have to be See, they're not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be one or the other.
Speaker 2: Right drop off? I mean no, Listen, something has to
Speaker 2: give Joe.
Speaker 3: You know that if he hasn't done it for this
Speaker 3: long and then he all of a sudden he goes
Speaker 3: into year eleven, you know what, I'm gonna try to
Speaker 3: give effort on the defense end and pay attention to it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna listen to Uncle, I'm gonna listen to Joe.
Speaker 3: You know it's gonna suffer him on the office end.
Speaker 3: Would y'all be upset if his offense have played declines?
Speaker 3: I'm just curious because no, But here's the thing to
Speaker 3: o Jo.
Speaker 1: Now he might get some easy baskets now all of
Speaker 1: a sudd because guess what I see you working?
Speaker 2: What are the code a? What coach of fee? You
Speaker 2: do it? Hey?
Speaker 1: They see you throw a good block block for Corey dialing.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, they o, Joe, Hey, we
Speaker 1: got he played for ya, Joe. Now I gotta reward
Speaker 1: your effort than God. You gave me an effort on
Speaker 1: one end which I wasn't expected. Now I've got to
Speaker 1: reward you on the end that I expect you to
Speaker 1: give it to me. So I got to make sure.
Speaker 1: Hey man, let me go get back. Three quick passes
Speaker 1: right quick way, hit it with that spot, hit with
Speaker 1: a stock route. I'm gon hit him with that speed
Speaker 1: out and I know he want that skinny. So she's
Speaker 1: a skinny post. We call him it's a skinny. Some
Speaker 1: people call him a bang eight you take seven stops
Speaker 1: in his bang. Or you call it a glance because hey,
Speaker 1: you throw the seven steps and you just glanced inside
Speaker 1: the balls right there.
Speaker 2: Or we call it the skinny post. Joe, So a
Speaker 2: severn step post. Sure's load nine beload the numbers. I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear.
Speaker 4: I don't want to deal with the two yards outside
Speaker 4: of the numbers. Yeah, okay, okay, I don't want to
Speaker 4: deal with this outside put outside foot back. Hey listen,
Speaker 4: I think if he if I think if he comes
Speaker 4: back in some better shade. Uh, he can be lead
Speaker 4: on both ends. White can't be lead on both fends. Okay,
Speaker 4: oh Joe, it ain't but a few bigs in the
Speaker 4: NBA that we ain't gat but a few.
Speaker 2: It's only a few.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you got three ye that can
Speaker 1: really play offense. You got him, you got Embiid, you
Speaker 1: got Yo kich. I talk about true biggs, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about five. I mean, he looks at himself as a
Speaker 1: stretch five, a D obviously a D, but a defense
Speaker 1: he's a four with that being fan. So let's just
Speaker 1: let's include a D, a D, Joel, Embiid, nicolea jokicch Cat.
Speaker 1: Who are your other big that can score? Whom w
Speaker 1: Wimben's out? I mean, Womby really ain't trying to bang.
Speaker 2: Womy, I'm gonna say, Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: So let even if we include Wimbley Wimby, we got five,
Speaker 1: really five bigs that can score right.
Speaker 2: Other than so, I'm.
Speaker 1: Just saying, Oh Joe, it's not like he normally, unless
Speaker 1: he plays one of those guys, he has an advantage.
Speaker 1: He's not going against Joel and bid and normally if
Speaker 1: they're going against Joel and bid.
Speaker 2: Mister Robinson's gonna be on it.
Speaker 1: Okay, he might have to go and if he goes
Speaker 1: against yo, kiss, mister Robinson's gonna be on it.
Speaker 2: So with that being said.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying just just a little, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I get it, because it's easy to fall into that trap,
Speaker 1: O Joe. When you start having success, Joe on one
Speaker 1: end of the court, a lot of times you say
Speaker 1: the hell with the other end. Because I've been there,
Speaker 1: started catching a few passes. Man, listen, damn that blocking.
Speaker 2: Hey, Oh Joe, I.
Speaker 1: Gotta put my face basket down, my hand, my knuckles
Speaker 1: getting off all beat up.
Speaker 2: The hell with that? Listen listen.
Speaker 1: It's like, uh, when I was in Phoenix, bro, look,
Speaker 1: I did anything to stay on the floor. Joe Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they need to chase Ai. I chased Ai. I gotta
Speaker 1: guard Kobe Coche, I gotta guard t Map. Hey, when
Speaker 1: I got to Atlanta and started dancing a little bit,
Speaker 1: chasing nobody, Oh I forgot, Joe, we forgot about shun't
Speaker 1: doom from Houston.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but it ain't.
Speaker 1: But it ain't but a handful of big And you
Speaker 1: mean to tell me kak't be Lee Man. Please, let's
Speaker 1: just let's let's let's ride it up. Let's give it
Speaker 1: a nice round number. Let's just say they're thirty teams,
Speaker 1: they're fifteen guys per team. That's four hundred and fifty guys.
Speaker 1: Let's just say we're gonna ride it up. We're gonna
Speaker 1: say ten, there are ten bigs bigs. You mean to
Speaker 1: tell me, kat, you can't give me a little more
Speaker 1: than that. It's not like you playing all ten of
Speaker 1: them every night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Hey, I can see if it was like it was
Speaker 1: like the old when they first started out, they had
Speaker 1: eight teams in the NBA, when they started out, to think,
Speaker 1: what was that forty seven fifty seven, say forty seven
Speaker 1: they started. Yeah, I mean they started out they only
Speaker 1: had eight teams. And now you say, well, damn, I
Speaker 1: got a big every night. It ain't like that, no, sir.
Speaker 1: And the game different too, So it ain't last.
Speaker 2: It ain't. It ain't like it's bruise of basketball like
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ain't ain't nobody doing like what Charles Barkler,
Speaker 1: Karl Malong. They got the ball and it boom boom boom,
Speaker 1: boom boom boom. Ain't nobody doing that, ain't nobody back,
Speaker 1: ain't nobody down like that? Hey, you got big, big,
Speaker 1: like the sanitation truck.
Speaker 2: So I don't. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: And and that's what you try and see this what
Speaker 1: caused me to catch There's some validity of this because
Speaker 1: they try to make light of a situation.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, you know how we do it.
Speaker 1: Joe, you know how we try to do it when
Speaker 1: something they going right, We try to make fun. Man,
Speaker 1: My grandma blocked better than that. You know, we try
Speaker 1: to make light of a situation and help. My sister
Speaker 1: would have caught that one. You ain't catch the ball
Speaker 1: when you try to, you try to put humor on it.
Speaker 1: Then you're like, hey, you pull them to this side
Speaker 1: and say, bro, what what's going on?
Speaker 2: Man? Man?
Speaker 1: Come on, hey Sean Man, Hey bro Rod blocking the
Speaker 1: head blocking? Hell, I'm blocking a hell. I like the
Speaker 1: block least after least wasn't blocked because the five blocking
Speaker 1: that means I ain't gonna get out in the route
Speaker 1: were not throwing the ball. Everybody wants to catch passes,
Speaker 1: but like Mike said, that, you don't block he I'll
Speaker 1: never forget. Mike came in in ninety five. I had
Speaker 1: went to see ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, so
Speaker 1: I had gone to three straight Pro Bowls. I was
Speaker 1: the first team All Pro, led the team and receive
Speaker 1: it each year.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: After that ninety five, they tried to trade me. They
Speaker 1: wanted to trade me to Arizona. They're gonna trade me
Speaker 1: Mike Pritchett the number fifteen pick for Eric Swan. That's
Speaker 1: what they wanted. So, uh the trade didn't go through
Speaker 1: because they wanted a couple more. So they ended up
Speaker 1: just said no, the hell with it. Mike called me
Speaker 1: in and said, I said, uh So when I came
Speaker 1: back for OTA's they called me, called up towards office.
Speaker 1: He said, what's on your mind?
Speaker 2: Eighty four?
Speaker 1: I said, I said, Mike, I'm not upset that you
Speaker 1: tried to trade me. I said, I'm upset that you
Speaker 1: thought you can find somebody better than me. You thought
Speaker 1: you could win. I said, Mike, I'm the best tied
Speaker 1: end in football. I'm gonna show you this year and
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna put I'm gonna make you make a decision.
Speaker 2: I said, I already know what I can do.
Speaker 1: Can't nobody see me, I said, for the first time
Speaker 1: in two years, I'm fully healthy, no off season ankle surgery.
Speaker 1: So I go out there, I leave the league tight ends,
Speaker 1: catches yards, touchdowns, yards per catch. Now come see me,
Speaker 1: Come see me, now, come see me. I'm him, I
Speaker 1: said you. I said, Mike, you can bring whoever you
Speaker 1: want to. There's not a tight end if you brought
Speaker 1: him in here and beat me for this job, not one.
Speaker 2: Because you got to think about it. Now. I came.
Speaker 1: I got drafted as a wide receiver. They moved me
Speaker 1: to tight end. Oh joy, when they moved the tight end.
Speaker 1: I'm two hundred and fifteen pounds in the NFL in
Speaker 1: the nineties. When they run it, when they run in
Speaker 1: the football? Why that pretty stuff they're doing?
Speaker 2: Now, light you lighting ass man. I leave. I leave
Speaker 2: my last game of the season. I weigh in.
Speaker 1: I weigh into two o seven. Howay and wide receivers
Speaker 1: right now? Two o seven to player Dawn?
Speaker 2: There all of.
Speaker 1: Them, two fifty two sixty. Look at Kelsey, look out,
Speaker 1: big Gronk, look at all these guys. Ain't nobody, I said, Mike,
Speaker 1: can't nobody do what I do? But he said eighty four.
Speaker 1: I need you the block, he said. He said, if
Speaker 1: if I just put you in on passing downs and
Speaker 1: I put somebody else in and running down, don't you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to key on that?
Speaker 2: He said?
Speaker 1: I'm not asking, he said, I'm not asking you to
Speaker 1: be what are these dominatics. I'm not asking you to
Speaker 1: be what Washington have or what the Chargers have. He said,
Speaker 1: I just need you to care. Okay, that's what you need.
Speaker 2: Got you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go look at TV numbers in ninety six, in
Speaker 1: ninety seven, In ninety eight, he went fifteen thirty, he
Speaker 1: went seventeen fifty, He went two thousand.
Speaker 2: A date, laying the hat, you was laying the hand.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you tell me, hey, you ain't gonna always
Speaker 1: put me at the point of attack rope. You asked,
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do it? Two twenty eight
Speaker 1: with Reggie? What am I supposed to one of the floors?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do with straight hand? Bruce
Speaker 1: s fifth, Come on, man, let's be real. Hey, them
Speaker 1: boy moving something around?
Speaker 2: Ain't that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I look I got oh, Joe, I got pride,
Speaker 1: I do got pride. I ain't gonna just let him
Speaker 1: whip my ass all day. But they gonna win more
Speaker 1: than I'm gonna win.
Speaker 2: Let's just be real, absolutely so. But and that's that's Cat.
Speaker 1: Cat still has three three more years left on a
Speaker 1: deal that pays him two hundred and twenty million. Cat
Speaker 1: can go get another deal. Cat came out of house
Speaker 1: Cat nineteen, So cat'st thirty nine. Cat is gonna get
Speaker 1: it another deal. He can go get him another three
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar deal. Yeah, how do you gotta do it?
Speaker 1: Twenty Cat twenty nine? Man, come on twenty nine. Hey,
Speaker 1: after next year, if Cat come back, say you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give y'all double double. I'm gonna give y'all
Speaker 1: twenty ten. I'm gonna give y'all two blocks a game.
Speaker 1: Watch them come to Cat say, hey, Cat, you want
Speaker 1: this four year extension for like two fifty Yeah, because
Speaker 1: if he, if he got them type of numbers, gonna
Speaker 1: be back in the East and.
Speaker 2: Were gonna be right be right back. Because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Boston is not gonna be the same the Boston team
Speaker 1: that came into the season this this past season.
Speaker 2: That's not They're not gonna be that same team. We're not.
Speaker 3: Are you saying they're gonna they're gonna have a different team,
Speaker 3: or you're just saying they're not gonna be the same
Speaker 3: because Jason Tatum is not playing Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1: I would I would not be surprised if two or
Speaker 1: two or three players get traded off that team.
Speaker 2: Damn. I would not be surprised. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, Ojoe, Why am I gonna keep
Speaker 1: it together with no chance of winning a championship? You
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna play that big that big ass pay roll,
Speaker 1: go to that second.
Speaker 2: April a repeater tax? Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: Well hold on, hold on, I'm just just are you
Speaker 3: you know better than me? So you're saying Jaylen Brown
Speaker 3: wouldn't be there, I believe he'll be. I think I
Speaker 3: think he.
Speaker 1: Uh uh uh uh holiday holiday? Why two or three
Speaker 1: of that combination is gonna be there, gone, gonna be gone? Okay,
Speaker 1: Presingers might Prezingles might be the first one to go.
Speaker 1: He might be the first ball to drop. Nois, he
Speaker 1: might be the first ball to drop.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, Ojo, I ain't got no chance.
Speaker 1: I'm not winning because guess what, you already lost to
Speaker 1: the Knicks. And you're gonna you lost to the Knicks
Speaker 1: with Jason Tatum doing what he do with how you
Speaker 1: gonna beat him without him?
Speaker 2: Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1: Okay, the Pacers, the Pacers is not gonna be the
Speaker 1: Pacer is not taking a step back.
Speaker 2: They got guys. They guy to the contract.
Speaker 1: So let's just say for the sake now, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, we don't know what he's gonna do. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be moves that's gonna be made. But I just
Speaker 1: don't see the Celtics the team that came into the season,
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum notwithstanding, I don't see that team. I don't
Speaker 1: see that same team coming back.
Speaker 2: I don't either. Man.
Speaker 1: Like I've always said, I think it's gonna be some
Speaker 1: big moves made this summer, and it's gonna be great
Speaker 1: for the game. It's gonna be great for the games.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. But yeah, I do I agree.
Speaker 1: I think a couple of them guys are gonna be
Speaker 1: going this summer. And I'm not sure what Boston's gonna
Speaker 1: look like next year. Brown Holiday, Derry White, Pretinkas we're
Speaker 1: gonna pull up their salaries and and and with it.
Speaker 1: And because they're already in that second apron because what
Speaker 1: they've wanted to do. The Players Associations said, we don't
Speaker 1: want no more super teams, and the honers say, we
Speaker 1: don't want no more super teams. So we're gonna try
Speaker 1: to make it cost prohibited even if you're winning championships.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, I mean I think they said hold on.
Speaker 2: I think they said in the light.
Speaker 1: Like the last three years, Golden State has spent half
Speaker 1: a billion in luxury tax four hundred and.
Speaker 2: Fifty eight million.
Speaker 1: Yes, boy, yes, Now that's on top of Steph Curry,
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid.
Speaker 2: That's on top of Dramond making big dollars.
Speaker 1: So now they took on sixty Jimmy Butler gonna get
Speaker 1: sixty million a year, so they made it really costs prohibitive.
Speaker 2: You got twenty twenty five twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Salary, You got Jaylen Brown making fifty three million, you
Speaker 1: got Jason Tatum making fifty four million, You got Holiday
Speaker 1: making thirty two million, you got Porzinga's making thirty million,
Speaker 1: you got Derek White making twenty eight million, and then
Speaker 1: it goes fifty seven for Jaylen Brown, fifty eight Foro Tatum,
Speaker 1: thirty four for holiday Pazingers only has one year left,
Speaker 1: so he's he's a prime candidate because guess what his
Speaker 1: salary coming up the books after next year, so he's prime.
Speaker 1: He could have gone ny percent. He gone Derrick White
Speaker 1: salery after next year thirty million. Then it goes sixty one,
Speaker 1: sixty two, thirty seven, thirty two, then it goes sixty
Speaker 1: four sixty seven.
Speaker 2: It breaking it up, my Brian.
Speaker 3: Hey see now now this this gives people a better perspective.
Speaker 3: You know, let's time I want to talk about reality.
Speaker 3: I don't mean to go away from the game of basketball.
Speaker 3: That's like nine to see why them boys get all
Speaker 3: the pickings. Yeah, okay, but run the numbers down. Huh
Speaker 3: when you're making money like that where you get to
Speaker 3: pick who.
Speaker 2: You want, boy get to shake his stick at it
Speaker 2: and listen whatever whatever you want too.
Speaker 1: What they gonna say, No, Yeah, and Jason Tatums what
Speaker 1: twenty six twenty seven, So guess what in two years?
Speaker 1: So basically by the time he come back good to
Speaker 1: have a good year in twenty six twenty seven, they
Speaker 1: gonna say they gonn want to stand him again for
Speaker 1: another three O Joe, He's twenty seven, depending on how
Speaker 1: He's not gonna play next year. He just played the
Speaker 1: first year, so guess what he'll play. He'll miss twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty six, he come out and have a good year,
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven with two years left. Hey, we
Speaker 1: got three years for you. He gonna come back, right, Oh, Joe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh for sure the first perade. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: if I read correctly, he had the same doctor dou
Speaker 1: his surgery that did Kevin Durant surgery.
Speaker 2: He's straight, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Uh, Neil Latrosh doctor Latrosh dig Kobe's at Curland, Joe.
Speaker 2: I mean they have like.
Speaker 1: They if you are La, if you playing in the
Speaker 1: LA market, you're probably gonna go have the surgery at Curland, Joe,
Speaker 1: be at back, shoulder, knee, achilles. They're the best. They
Speaker 1: did my hips, both of them, uh, and did an
Speaker 1: unbelievable job. I mean I was walking unassisted ten days
Speaker 1: the first surgery seven days, the second one unassisted, no walker,
Speaker 1: no kine walking.
Speaker 2: What's the name of the name of the doctor? Uh who?
Speaker 1: Uh at Curland job they did the Achilles?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're Latrosh, so is he does he specialize in
Speaker 3: only the achilles or other areas of the body?
Speaker 1: Uh? Here achilles? They look, they got guys that all
Speaker 1: they do is shoulders. They got guys all they do
Speaker 1: is hips. They got guys to do knees. They got
Speaker 1: guys that do are key leads. They got that's a
Speaker 1: and they goody. You think they can fix my my finger?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But why because it's stay. It won't straighten up. That's
Speaker 3: that's how it is, just like that.
Speaker 2: Good perfect, it's perfect for drinking tea you want. Hey,
Speaker 2: joke my fingers. My finger don't go down, man, it
Speaker 2: just stayed just looking. Hey look we all leave the
Speaker 2: game with the war wolves. Bro. Yeah, some for all
Speaker 2: of fashion.
Speaker 1: You're not getting out of no professional spoil thinking you're
Speaker 1: gonna just walk up back. You're gonna be limping upout
Speaker 1: it in some way somehow. It's not got I got lucky,
Speaker 1: I had, I had no injuries. But it's just it
Speaker 1: bothered me. My daughter, My daughter and younger kids be
Speaker 1: making fun of me. Baddy, what's wrong with your finger?
Speaker 1: I said, it's not even that bad. You said, straight
Speaker 1: it out then, And that's that's that's how I could do.
Speaker 3: You see, hey, Joe, you ever seen Tory hold head
Speaker 3: from playing?
Speaker 2: You see Tory Holt.
Speaker 1: You see Brian ball Dingers if I's uh, I mean
Speaker 1: this finger right here pointing that way.
Speaker 3: Oh that's how toys is. Hey, hey Joe, Tory Tory Holt.
Speaker 3: I think is this this finger right here? It's like
Speaker 3: he can do like this, but the fingers pointing like
Speaker 3: a line of Holland's. He used to he coached us
Speaker 3: when I was in Brooklyn. Line of Holland on his
Speaker 3: left hand. Yeah, point way over here.
Speaker 2: I ain't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, and you know football. You see Ronnie Rodney
Speaker 1: had a pinky. He cut He cut part of his
Speaker 1: pinky off at the joint. It's like, you're gonna miss
Speaker 1: some time. He like, cut it off. I don't need it.
Speaker 1: I don't do nothing with the pinky anyway.
Speaker 2: Cut it off. He cut it off. He cut He
Speaker 2: got it off in the game, didn't he after the game?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna miss some time, he said, just cut
Speaker 1: it off at the joint.
Speaker 2: You know, so, I mean mine, look at Tori, look
Speaker 2: at Tory hold his hands. But you got it up?
Speaker 2: Where is that? Where is that on you screen? Man? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mun yos has got it like his hands like
Speaker 1: that too. You got you got bodies. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how.
Speaker 2: I don't know how Tory caught the ball. He said
Speaker 2: he take, he would tape, he would take. He took
Speaker 2: two of them together, tap them together. Yeah. I can't
Speaker 2: catch like that.
Speaker 1: I can't catch like that, not catch the two you
Speaker 1: know they you know they catched it to take the
Speaker 1: two fingers together like that.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it. No, okay, okay, okay, okay. No.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of offensive lineman taped together because
Speaker 1: you know they and they're.
Speaker 2: Like that and the fingers be going all over the class.
Speaker 2: But I did play with a thumb guard.
Speaker 1: I got my u this this thumb, I got it
Speaker 1: bent funky and I had to have a thumbuard on it.
Speaker 2: But that's all. That was all I can do. His
Speaker 2: hands got like that from catching the ball.
Speaker 3: Just like he got caught, got caught into jersey when
Speaker 3: he was blocking.
Speaker 2: Look at all look balls, pinky god lee that that's
Speaker 2: how a lot of you know.
Speaker 3: What's funny is they have procedures where they can fix it,
Speaker 3: but they refuse to do it.
Speaker 2: It's to now. I ain't finna be. I ain't finna be.
Speaker 1: I don't got like I said, unless I absolutely gotta
Speaker 1: have it. It's fine if you like you ain't getting
Speaker 1: it fixed, you get you. I ain't trying to mancuse that.
Speaker 1: They look, they put you under, they want to put
Speaker 1: a caffey in you. I ain't trying to do all that. Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: well you even been under that nine minute times?
Speaker 2: You ain't going out? And look I had to.
Speaker 1: I had both my heels repaired. Joe had one and
Speaker 1: had one in July. They had the other one in February.
Speaker 1: And people like, man, your legs done got small. I said,
Speaker 1: let them cut your heill flexes, let them cut the
Speaker 1: muscles into your heel flexes.
Speaker 2: Let me see.
Speaker 1: I beg your legs gonna be, I said, I said,
Speaker 1: but I ain't in pain no more. I gotta I
Speaker 1: got a quality of life. I would just that ain't
Speaker 1: no quality life to be in paid. You can't sit,
Speaker 1: you can't stand, you can't walk, you can't lay it out.
Speaker 1: Man that hell with that, Hey, look, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie to you. That's another reason why I got so
Speaker 1: hooked on yoga. Hot yoga, especially because I had elbow surgery.
Speaker 2: I had three. I had four chip bones in my elbow.
Speaker 2: I woke up one morning after we played and my
Speaker 2: arm was just stuck with a lot. It was locked.
Speaker 1: So when I go, when I go to the gym,
Speaker 1: they thought I was playing, I'm like, man, I can't
Speaker 1: extend my arm, so they sent me right to get
Speaker 1: X rays. I got like four chip bones in my socket.
Speaker 2: I had to go.
Speaker 1: It's the same elbow surgeon that Iverson used in Alaballa.
Speaker 1: Andrews hego, Andrews, Yeah, I used and uh but yeah,
Speaker 1: I had that on top of ankle surgery when I
Speaker 1: was in college, so I hadn't been under the knife
Speaker 1: a few times. Man, I'm like, if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: yoga to keep my limbs in that mobility, you know,
Speaker 1: because once you lose that mobility, that's when you start
Speaker 1: to have them injuries. Yeah, because if I'm out was thinking,
Speaker 1: I think Curland job. I think doctor Watkins, Big Watkins
Speaker 1: and Junior is in the Curland job. But they got
Speaker 1: some of the best. They got some of the best.
Speaker 1: I think Anderson is the foot dog. He out of Charlotte.
Speaker 1: He do you know when it has Liz Franks and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. O. Joe turf Toe, he's the guy.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that they go see that.
Speaker 2: Lucky.
Speaker 1: The Athletic is reporting that Thibodo has the back end
Speaker 1: of team president Leon Rose and full buy in from
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, but the report also adds that team's governor
Speaker 1: James Dolan will make the final determination about the coaching situation.
Speaker 1: Changing the coach is lead one lever Rose and Dolan
Speaker 1: can pull in hopes of achieving a different outcome.
Speaker 2: The question is is that does that change anything? Okay,
Speaker 2: we bring somebody else in. Do you think.
Speaker 1: That changes anything? Joe, No, I don't not if you
Speaker 1: don't bring different personnel. And you gotta bring some help,
Speaker 1: get some depth on the bench. That's what they lacking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stop going. You're starting five out throughout the entire season.
Speaker 1: Then they get in the postseason, it's even more of
Speaker 1: a grind. So as you can see when they got
Speaker 1: later in that series against the Pacers Preston, they just
Speaker 1: got tired.
Speaker 2: Man. They just it's only so much they can do. Yep.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a couple of guys who come off
Speaker 1: the bench. And I understand Robinson in the uh in
Speaker 1: the guard and the other little guard. They come off
Speaker 1: the bench. The guard, they come off the Miles McBride, dumcrie,
Speaker 1: I like him too. I like both of them come
Speaker 1: off the bench. But you need you need a few
Speaker 1: more guys, and you need by two or three of them.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, man, you gotta find some dudes that's hungry.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of cats out of there, Hong. You
Speaker 1: just gotta find some who you think that's ready to play.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: His insistence gonna play and starters heavy minutes has long
Speaker 1: drawn by our fans and players, and March mckal bridges,
Speaker 1: who led the Nicks and minutes at thirty seven per game,
Speaker 1: which ranked fourth in the league, voiced his complaints about
Speaker 1: playing so much sometimes it's not fun on the body.
Speaker 2: You want that that as a coach.
Speaker 1: But I also talked to him a little bit, knowing
Speaker 1: that we've got a good enough team where our bitch
Speaker 1: can come in and we don't need to play forty
Speaker 1: eight forty seven minutes a night. But that's but that's
Speaker 1: been his every dame of place. Go back and look
Speaker 1: at Chicago. Look how many minutes roles played. Look how
Speaker 1: many money Jimmy Butler played. Joke him, Noah, look at
Speaker 1: how many minutes they played. Okay, fast forward, go to Minnesota,
Speaker 1: see how many minutes they played. Okay, fast forward, go
Speaker 1: to the Knicks. See how many minutes and starters play.
Speaker 1: You can't play them guys that count of minute thirty
Speaker 1: eight thirty nine minutes a night.
Speaker 2: And then when you get in the postseason, you know
Speaker 2: you're gonna beat you. You shorten your bitch.
Speaker 1: You gonna be playing them guys forty two forty three minutes,
Speaker 1: forty forty to forty two forty four minutes a night.
Speaker 1: You got to open the round. You got the quarters,
Speaker 1: the Simmis, the quarters of the Simmis, the finals, and
Speaker 1: then you got the NBA Finals. Come on, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's tough, but you know, as athlete's man, we're
Speaker 1: getting our own way a lot of times. Ain't none
Speaker 1: of the dudes gonna be coming over the raising hand
Speaker 1: time about I need one.
Speaker 2: Because you know, cut money involved, because I try to
Speaker 2: get a couple of people.
Speaker 1: Hey, you mess around taking my you mess around having
Speaker 1: me sitting over there too long, now you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So I think, I think, but I think
Speaker 1: in New York, for Tim's case, they definitely need they
Speaker 1: need some depth on old Joe. It's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to want a tight us you can see, you know,
Speaker 1: especially when they come down to the nitty gritty. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard to want to tight against some of
Speaker 1: these teams nowadays, they taking away the super team.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to have some guys that's hungry and
Speaker 2: and and are scared of the moment. Look at me.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, okay, see thunder depth and the other placers
Speaker 1: death crazy depth Boston.
Speaker 2: What they wanted last year, what to have depth? You
Speaker 2: see what you have?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you you basically okay, give me a superstar,
Speaker 1: give me another guy. Let's say I give you a
Speaker 1: superstar Joe, and then I got your guy. He's he's
Speaker 1: he's not a superstar, but he's a star. He's an
Speaker 1: all He's a he's an All Star, and he's right.
Speaker 1: They're on the cusp of being an All NBA selection.
Speaker 1: Then I'm a surrounding with two three quality guys. And
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna have two three quality guys coming off
Speaker 1: the bench. That's Caruso, that's Wallace, that's Wiggins. Now you
Speaker 1: got j Dove All NBA thirteen made the All Star
Speaker 1: for the first time. I got a superstar in MVP,
Speaker 1: in Shape. I got quality big and role players in
Speaker 1: Check and Hartenstein, Tada. Now go look at the Pacers.
Speaker 1: Look at what they got. They don't have a superstar.
Speaker 1: I believe they have two star players with Siakam and
Speaker 1: Haller Burton. And you got guys that understand you're getting
Speaker 1: them hard. You got a Miles Turner, you got a
Speaker 1: Nie Smith. Now coming off the bench, I got Matt
Speaker 1: burn See, I got TJ McConnell, I got over Topping.
Speaker 2: And then you get something.
Speaker 1: You got points you didn't expect TV Thomas Bryant gave
Speaker 1: it ten big points, three or four from the three
Speaker 1: point line. Gave you a block shot two or two
Speaker 1: from the free throw line. You see, that's how you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to win going going forward. They made it
Speaker 1: so cost prohibited for you to try to stack with
Speaker 1: three alls because you see what happens.
Speaker 2: You get three All Stars and superstars and you ain't
Speaker 2: got no bitch, no yeah.
Speaker 1: But when you trade for these guys, you better understand
Speaker 1: what you're trading for. Because Phoenix y'all traded for brand
Speaker 1: Le Biale. The man was averaging thirty and you expect
Speaker 1: them to come in now, be a defensive stopper, to
Speaker 1: be the third option, to be a role player.
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna go for it.
Speaker 1: It is so you gotta get guys, obviously, you gotta
Speaker 1: get guys who are gonna buy in. You're talking about
Speaker 1: the OKCS in Indiana's Yes, everybody on those teams they
Speaker 1: know their job. They know they ruins, and they gonna
Speaker 1: start in it. They not gonna do nothing outside. They
Speaker 1: ain't got no business doing. This is why this is
Speaker 1: gonna make It's gonna make for a great finals because
Speaker 1: this is this is two teams that we have that
Speaker 1: are very discipline and they understand how to win, and
Speaker 1: they play together, they play hard.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good series.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play my role as long as I can,
Speaker 1: and then when if somebody come along and the team
Speaker 1: that I'm on they can't afford me, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: somewhere else and make big money. But if I can
Speaker 1: win me a ring or two while I'm here playing
Speaker 1: on you know whatever, I'm making ten million, twelve million,
Speaker 1: fourteen whatever. The case may be, and then somebody come
Speaker 1: in and want to drop twenty five thirty on me.
Speaker 1: There you go, I'm gone, yeah, hey, y'all guy.
Speaker 3: If I well, if I played, if I played in
Speaker 3: the NBA young, I would have been like I would
Speaker 3: have been one of them, one of them, betweenty five
Speaker 3: three fifty type dudes. You have been one when of
Speaker 3: them dudes? Get when im when I'm there four year
Speaker 3: three ff three hundred and forty five three fifty.
Speaker 2: Or you with a supermax huh.
Speaker 3: Vision, Hey, Joe, I would have been super max on entertainment,
Speaker 3: a loan forget, forget to play on the court.
Speaker 1: They were gonna have to max you out, no question.
Speaker 2: Hey, they would have maxed me our year two. They
Speaker 2: go back you out, So they go back you out
Speaker 2: of the rookie contract. Hull. They damn the mic Bright
Speaker 2: ain't bank bang Clan.
Speaker 1: TV execs, They they don't care about the NBA Finals ratings.
Speaker 1: According to the USA Today, the NBA Finals featured a
Speaker 1: matchup between the Boston Celtics, the league second most recognizable franchise,
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Mavericks, who held from the fourth largest
Speaker 1: metropolitan area in the United States. It averaged eleven point
Speaker 1: three million viewers per game. The chances are the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five NBA Finals, featuring two decidedly smaller markets, Oklahoma
Speaker 1: City Thunder and the Ineana Pacers, may likely have fewer viewers.
Speaker 1: According to the Athletic, the league doesn't care much about
Speaker 1: how many people actually watch because the NBA is extremely new.
Speaker 1: TV contracts with ESPN, NBC, and Amazon are already setting stone,
Speaker 1: which means the most important revenue is generated regardless of
Speaker 1: what happens in the NBA Finals. There's really no direct
Speaker 1: impact between ratings and financial success, certainly in the near term.
Speaker 1: But if you have bad ratings for the next decade,
Speaker 1: then that limits your TV rights deal. But I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone in the NBA is worried about that right
Speaker 1: now because the revenue for TV are guaranteed. The NBA
Speaker 1: is not hooked on for anything other than long time TV.
Speaker 1: Exactly said, this is the network's problem. Does everyone want
Speaker 1: next Laker Finals?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Oh Joe. When you pay big
Speaker 1: money the advertisers, that's how you recoup your money. That's
Speaker 1: why Football Joe for the two bow commercials, they have
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty. They get seven million dollars every
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Now, if I got a bad matchup, nah, bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be able to do that one because
Speaker 1: I got I gotta recoup something, not just what deside.
Speaker 1: Eleven year seventy seven billion. Eleven year seventy seven billion.
Speaker 1: Now I shelled that out, Joe. I got to get
Speaker 1: some of that back. Yeah, I gotta get some of
Speaker 1: that back. I'm not sure what my bad said I
Speaker 1: gave back.
Speaker 2: I gave too much. I gave a billion too much.
Speaker 2: Eleven year, seventy six billion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what executive what executives said this
Speaker 3: that having two small market teams and the finals doesn't
Speaker 3: matter based on you know, the ratings. I mean, come
Speaker 3: on now, come on now, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It works everything because people not go First of all,
Speaker 1: people not really then that's not like they're watching basketball
Speaker 1: and in droves as it is. At least they want
Speaker 1: the Knicks, they want the Lakers, they want Celtics, they
Speaker 1: want things that they recognize because a lot of people
Speaker 1: are not are not like we watch it because that's
Speaker 1: what we do. A lot of times people are just casual.
Speaker 1: Who's playing who? Oklahoma City got a team. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what that's what people are asking. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're if you are, if you're a basketball fan, obviously
Speaker 1: you know that you know who Shay is. But there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that just sit down and
Speaker 1: maybe the only time that they watch it is gonna
Speaker 1: be this because people are not sitting around watching. Look,
Speaker 1: I promise you if Jacksonville and who's a small market
Speaker 1: NFC team, Jacksonville, Seattle, who's a small market NFC team?
Speaker 2: Oh, Jacksonville, Carolina. You know you don't think the TV
Speaker 2: is like whoa god? That ain't.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. Come on, now, you want big markets or
Speaker 1: you want big names. I would like to have them both,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the Lakers, with the Lakers
Speaker 1: and Celtics. I got lad Bird, I got Maggie Johnson,
Speaker 1: I got to Read, I got Michale, I got Worthy,
Speaker 1: I got Parrish. Oh look at the coaches, pat Rowley,
Speaker 1: Casey Jones, Bill Fitch, them, them, them, his story them,
Speaker 1: his story across the board. Oh you got Lebron. Now
Speaker 1: if you got about it, you got a small market.
Speaker 1: But you got Lebron and you got chef Steph. Now
Speaker 1: you got Steph Curry and you got Kevin Durant. Hey, look,
Speaker 1: I understand, I understand all that. I understand what you're
Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I do think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be an interesting find them. So, like, I'm very intrigued
Speaker 1: on how this is gonna go. Uh all of a
Speaker 1: sud I got my pick. But man, the the way
Speaker 1: these teams have played throughout this postseason, especially Indiana being
Speaker 1: an underdog in every three all three rounds, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times we're gonna keep counting?
Speaker 2: Mind?
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about it, I think about it
Speaker 3: for for people that aren't really basketball fans, I think
Speaker 3: there's nothing that is going to be able to pull
Speaker 3: the viewer who doesn't watch basketball based on the teams
Speaker 3: that are in the finals. Mm hmmm, who's the draw
Speaker 3: outside of s g A if you're not a basketball fan. Now,
Speaker 3: people that love the game of basketball, Joe, you know,
Speaker 3: but obviously me, we're gonna, we're gonna we tune it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna watch regardless.
Speaker 1: We're gonna watch regardless, but you know, through the game.
Speaker 1: But everybody's not a die hard though, O Joe, and
Speaker 1: what you're saying, everybody's not.
Speaker 2: A die hard.
Speaker 3: Now that if the Celtics was playing or the Knickson playing, Hell,
Speaker 3: it could be somebody don't even watch basketball.
Speaker 2: Well, oh yeah, I know about the goddamn Nicks. I
Speaker 2: can relate to you. Even though I don't watch the game.
Speaker 2: I'm finna tune in just because.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shaq says he thinks all markets are the same
Speaker 1: in the NBA, social media is the market now, not
Speaker 1: every market is the same. Nobody cares what city you're
Speaker 1: in anymore. To say the nineties, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Well he I think he's saying
Speaker 1: because of social media, the world is a lot smaller,
Speaker 1: meaning it's not many moments that you're gonna miss I
Speaker 1: don't care what no, yeah, yeah, you're gonna catch every moment,
Speaker 1: as opposed to back in the nineties. You know, if
Speaker 1: you won't watching the game, then you missed it. You
Speaker 1: missed it, you know. But the problem of the Joe
Speaker 1: and O Joe, I think is that when you look
Speaker 1: at it, if the two teams look at let's let's
Speaker 1: let's say let's just say for the sake of argument,
Speaker 1: this was in the NBA Finals on a Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: You watching Indiana and OKC. Now I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: that same Tuesday night. I'm gonna give you Boston. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you Boston and the Lakers. Are you watching,
Speaker 1: I give you I'll get I'll tell you what it
Speaker 1: I do. I'll give you the Knis and Golden State.
Speaker 1: You're watching.
Speaker 2: So Marcuts do matter? They do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen outside of Marcus, the players playing off
Speaker 3: the look that's but see, that's a because here's the thing.
Speaker 3: That's a superstar driven league. That's why you want one,
Speaker 3: and that's why you get him. That's why everybody was shocked. Man,
Speaker 3: y'all got Luca, y'all traded it. He twenties five, He
Speaker 3: about to be here. He's turned twenty six in two months.
Speaker 3: Because they don't come along very often. You're very You're
Speaker 3: very you're very, very lucky.
Speaker 1: If you get a guy and he turns into Luca,
Speaker 1: you get a Lebron James, you do it, you boy,
Speaker 1: you move heam and the nerve to keep him. You
Speaker 1: get a Steph Curry, you get a Jordan, You get
Speaker 1: a magic of Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: Kevin.
Speaker 1: You Hey, if I get a shot Kobe and I
Speaker 1: ain't giving them up now, y'all going down the vine here? No,
Speaker 1: hell nah, that's why when the teams get a quarterback,
Speaker 1: oh joe, quarterbacks has always been the position that they
Speaker 1: had the best best chance of finishing out their career
Speaker 1: with one team.
Speaker 3: Especially if it gets you a good one, because you
Speaker 3: understand how hard they are to come by. And hell,
Speaker 3: the casual fingers see that when you wonder why certain
Speaker 3: teams don't have success and they have a marrying a
Speaker 3: murder around the quarterbacks every two to three years.
Speaker 2: Now you see why.
Speaker 1: Shaw's released a tweet today that are now the Utah
Speaker 1: Jazz are hiring Boston Celtics assistant general manager Austin h
Speaker 1: as the franchise's president of basketball operations.
Speaker 2: Huh what's this thing called? What did it start with?
Speaker 2: An inn? Oh? Oh, my bad, my bad, my bad?
Speaker 2: Closes tell me that him and timbow tempts. Uh did
Speaker 2: that you say? His name? Bon Temps, Bon Thomps.
Speaker 1: Ainge has spent the past fourteen years working in Boston
Speaker 1: front office, including the last six of its current general role.
Speaker 2: Danny Ainge is currently the seed on the Jazz. Uh.
Speaker 2: The Internet actor reacted accordingly, no mention who his father's
Speaker 2: huh good point. Okay, Hey, what y'all thought this was?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 2: Thought? Hey, yeah thought yeah thought yeah. I thought they
Speaker 2: were play pampering over that. They not playing, man, they do.
Speaker 1: Look Look how many Look how many coaches their sons? Oh,
Speaker 1: Joe and and I don't know if I don't know
Speaker 1: how often. But hell Rick Adaman son Dave Adaman, he's
Speaker 1: the coach of what you call him. But I guess
Speaker 1: his dad didn't have no they didn't have no pull.
Speaker 1: They ain't help him get nothing. We quick, we quick
Speaker 1: to do that, but we'll nah man, I want you
Speaker 1: to get it out of the mud. Huh nah, I
Speaker 1: lay that phunt down for you could walk comfortably.
Speaker 2: But you see.
Speaker 1: But but ain't nobody ain't nobody said nothing. Ain't know
Speaker 1: how to said a word? Anybody said nothing, no nepartism.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody saying nothing. Jeans mentioned that no uproar. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: I can't lie to say I ain't think hello sean
Speaker 1: utah jas the hind Boston Seldings Assistant general manager Austin
Speaker 1: Age what wh whoa whoa woh case When they mentioned Bronnie,
Speaker 1: they say he's the son of Great Lincoln is great
Speaker 1: Lebron James. If I didn't know better, why y'alldn't put
Speaker 1: the son of Don What y'all doing with Lebron? Y'all
Speaker 1: mentioned y'all mentions the ballad. Oh that's the wife of
Speaker 1: Lebron James.
Speaker 2: But damn.
Speaker 1: Bryce, Bryce's going to Arizona Lebron James, the youngest son
Speaker 1: Bryce James chooses.
Speaker 2: Ef hey love, Yeah, I know this thing go.
Speaker 1: I wish my kids wanted to be immediate, did damns?
Speaker 1: You'll have a podcast? Damn your would?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean if I knew somebody, if they hey, I don't.
Speaker 1: In the profession and the field that they're in. I
Speaker 1: don't really know anybody in that profession, but if I did,
Speaker 1: I absolutely that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's that's that's pretty much in anything that you do.
Speaker 1: It's just like these owners, man, they had they had
Speaker 1: their kids working. They say, you know they gonna they
Speaker 1: gonna take right after them.
Speaker 2: Exactly, Claire, your son and their daughter probably gonna play tennis.
Speaker 1: Hold up, I think I read eighty percent of the
Speaker 1: jobs that get filled or never advertised the word of mouth.
Speaker 1: Hey man, hey, Joe, we hired over here. Man, you
Speaker 1: want to you want to put it in, you want
Speaker 1: to feel application. I put a word in for you. Hey, oh, Joe, Man,
Speaker 1: I heard the hiring down there, such and such. Man,
Speaker 1: you want to put your na Hey, my boy over there,
Speaker 1: He'll put a word in for you. Boom, No, application
Speaker 1: feeled out. Word of mouth, word of mouth. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: still the fastest way to get information out. Word of mouth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to get in. Uh.
Speaker 1: The three fastest ways to get information on Joe Man,
Speaker 1: one man, television, that thing, the three quikest ways to
Speaker 1: get information out man, and one man will definitely get
Speaker 1: it out for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The funny thing about is we could get information out
Speaker 3: much quicker now to the world by hitting the sin button.
Speaker 2: That's the this That sin button is powerful. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, o Joe, Hey, Joe Man, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: I ain't got hit the hit those thing. I just
Speaker 2: picked the phone call. Yeah, hey manig hey Joe. They
Speaker 2: not here. Man.
Speaker 1: That's a good job, man, they I think I think
Speaker 1: they start you off at like one twenty five, one fifty.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, man, I a man. Look, I've been here
Speaker 1: like seven years, but I'm cool with the bass man.
Speaker 2: I put a word in for you.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah he liked me. Hey, speaking of that, I
Speaker 1: know you got a little connection. Uh you know, I
Speaker 1: got a little connection with the Atlanta House.
Speaker 2: I see.
Speaker 1: Did they hire the GM yet? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Alexis said, no mention of who his father is. We
Speaker 1: only care about nepotism when it applies to Broun and Briny, Right, okay,
Speaker 1: lacoln Central said, y'all gonna cry nepotism or only when
Speaker 1: it's Lebron. So Danny ain't just been taking his son
Speaker 1: everywhere you go. Now, that's nepotism, y'all, y'all really true?
Speaker 2: He's should in the rogues. What the qualifications? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2: How did he get there for fourteen years? So let
Speaker 2: me ask you a question. He only been what Danny is? So,
Speaker 2: so where was where was he before he left and
Speaker 2: went to Utah? Where was he?
Speaker 1: If you don't mind me asking where was Danny ainge
Speaker 1: before he left and went to Utah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: I got a little tired tonight chat because you know,
Speaker 1: old cho say he took it nap to day I
Speaker 1: took him to nap to day two. Yeah, So I
Speaker 1: just want to chance somewhere. The chance said, So, I
Speaker 1: just want to know where he started at. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was in Bosston Shadow and his daddy. Oh oh really,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna tell hold on, So how do you
Speaker 1: get a job?
Speaker 2: So? Did he did he interview? Did he fill out
Speaker 2: an application? I just want to know?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh here interesting? Yeah he didn't have to fill
Speaker 1: out the application this time. Come on, chat, y'all better
Speaker 1: come on that picking up. I need y'all, I need
Speaker 1: y'all to chime in comment. I need y'all to tell
Speaker 1: me where Austen, son of Danny Aingel was before he
Speaker 1: got this job in Utah, what organization was in the end,
Speaker 1: and if you don't mind me asking, was there someone
Speaker 1: that was connected to him at this organization that he's leaving?
Speaker 2: M hm? You know what I want to look up there?
Speaker 1: I want to look up the definition of nepotism because
Speaker 1: maybe I got to Oh, Joe, babe, I got a
Speaker 1: different understanding of what nepotism is.
Speaker 2: Yet you got the right one. You got the right one.
Speaker 3: It just it just is really quiet depending on who's
Speaker 3: doing it or taken advantage.
Speaker 1: It says the practice among those with power or influence
Speaker 1: of favoring relatives, friends, or associates, especially by giving them
Speaker 1: a job. Hm hmmmm, uh, I say what is an
Speaker 1: example of nethotism. A common example is a CEO hiring
Speaker 1: their niece for a manager position, despite the niece having
Speaker 1: less experience than other applicants, hiring or promoting unqualified family members.
Speaker 1: A manager promotes their sibling or to a supervisory role
Speaker 1: despite the poor performance record, while other more qualified important
Speaker 1: employees get passed over. So I guess you know, Danny Hie,
Speaker 1: the most qualified guy he could find, the more qualified.
Speaker 2: Guy he could find, keep that money.
Speaker 1: So you know what, us we gotta stop feedling feeling
Speaker 1: bad when we can put when we can put on
Speaker 1: m let's put on every time. Now, I want you
Speaker 1: all guys to come that. Look, don't you come now,
Speaker 1: cause just like I put your ass here, I put
Speaker 1: your ass out, I'm gonna need you to do the
Speaker 1: job now. Absolutely, I'm gonna need you to do the job.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we gotta we gotta stop this. We gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta stop this because this is I don't know
Speaker 1: how prominent is Joe in the NBA, but oh Joe,
Speaker 1: you know it's very prominent in the NFL.
Speaker 2: How did look at look at Kyles shanahands coaching.
Speaker 1: Treat mm hmmm, go look at m go look at
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Look at uh Lafleur, look at uh McDaniel
Speaker 1: in uh uh in the Miami O'Connell, go look at
Speaker 1: you go look there guys and see how many of
Speaker 1: them work.
Speaker 2: For I'll tell you what. Go back and look at it.
Speaker 1: What that twenty twelve Pull up Mike Shanahan's coaching tree
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve at Washington.
Speaker 2: Check this out on your watch, this on Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you will find something to see how many of
Speaker 1: these guys are actually head coaches.
Speaker 2: Now, now, his offensive coordinator was Kyle shannonhanded Son.
Speaker 1: What was Sean McBath. No, I'm I just want to
Speaker 1: staff from Washington. Hold on, just say a guy, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. Raheem Morris was defensive
Speaker 1: back coach.
Speaker 2: MADDL.
Speaker 1: N Floyd was quarterback coach. What was Sean McVay. Sean
Speaker 1: McVay was tight end coach. Mike McDaniel offensive sisters Not
Speaker 1: do it? Now we go back when they won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Who was Sean mcvay's defensive coordinator Raie Moores.
Speaker 1: Go back and look at Sean McVay and look at
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, Zach Taylor. See how they spread it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't got no problem with it. But if we
Speaker 1: do something like that, we feel bad?
Speaker 2: Are we complaining about it?
Speaker 1: Like I said, I wish my kids want to do
Speaker 1: something in media, all wanted to do something in coaching.
Speaker 1: Think I wouldn't call up Kyle, I absolutely would, yep,
Speaker 1: call up McDaniel and what you call him too?
Speaker 2: Yep, sure would. They don't want to do nothing, So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I should go on, Damn, I should.
Speaker 2: They don't want to do anything.
Speaker 1: I kid not gonna tell you who their dad is
Speaker 1: and let you like you gotta know, you gotta know
Speaker 1: if you they're not volunteering it.
Speaker 2: Hey, I think I should. I should get into coaching on.
Speaker 2: You don't want the miles? Huh, you don't want the miles?
Speaker 1: Not full time like we think about me, coaching, ain't
Speaker 1: no coaching. Coaching is full time. Ain't no part time
Speaker 1: coaching full time. It ain't no part time in the NFL,
Speaker 1: O Joe, It's full time No.
Speaker 3: I mean we're talking, we talking about nepotism right now,
Speaker 3: and being that I'm proud of the Brown family, I'm
Speaker 3: sure they would allow me to do part time assistant
Speaker 3: receivers coach.
Speaker 2: Hey go ask if I was to ask, you know,
Speaker 2: they would say yeah, you know that right.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't ask, because I'm afraid they're gonna
Speaker 1: say yeah. That's why it asked Michael Another for the job. Definitely,
Speaker 1: definitely because the first thing I'm gonna say, Joe, I'm
Speaker 1: just playing because mister Bowling every time he saw me,
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, hey, whatever you want to do
Speaker 1: if you want to back said mister Ball, I'm done. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: them coaches be putting in some million hours. Boy, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm talking. You got to already know you got to
Speaker 1: tell me I remember and listen, Hey, I'm telling I
Speaker 1: have seen it. No, I don't want no part of
Speaker 1: that because I know I know from like ninety when
Speaker 1: I when our coach, when we were winning, we were
Speaker 1: at our apex for that that stretch like ninety six,
Speaker 1: ninety seven, ninety eight, we went back to we went
Speaker 1: back to back Super bowls. Uh and we uh we
Speaker 1: won the division twice. Oh, okay, they putting a hundred
Speaker 1: dollars a week in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ain't playing bro.
Speaker 1: Ninety to one hundred dollars a week. Now, think about
Speaker 1: how many how many hours in the twin a seven
Speaker 1: day week.
Speaker 3: I done seen Hugh and Marvin and coach Barbara Cowski.
Speaker 3: I have seen the blankets and the pillows, air mattresses,
Speaker 3: the game get they listen, the game plan to get
Speaker 3: putting up the what do you call it when you're
Speaker 3: playing the team that week?
Speaker 2: What you oh?
Speaker 1: They are the cut up. They're doing that on the plane.
Speaker 1: They're breaking that down on the plane. Man, I'm talking, Hey,
Speaker 1: I's be rid as. I don't know what on that.
Speaker 2: They laying. They laying, we laying.
Speaker 1: They go straight and you know back because obviously after
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, nobody could drive to the airport anymore.
Speaker 1: So everybody going back to going back to the facility complex.
Speaker 1: They're going upstairs. Man, listen, hey, don't go upstairs. Hit
Speaker 1: that thing they did all day. Monday, they go home,
Speaker 1: see their wife for a couple of hours with the kids.
Speaker 1: They back there getting on Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday
Speaker 1: they get to go home. Thursday, they get to go
Speaker 1: home at a decent time. They get to go home Thursday,
Speaker 1: like nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tuesday, you know, they there all day Tuesday.
Speaker 3: That makes you everything ready for Wednesday's practice.
Speaker 1: And meetings Monday night, Sunday night, Monday night, Tuesday night,
Speaker 1: and Wednesday.
Speaker 2: You there, you there. No, I don't want no part
Speaker 2: of that on Joe. Oh yo, yeah, Mail, go ahead, Joe.
Speaker 1: What you want to say is for the same basketball,
Speaker 1: they breaking down film every day, different teams because we're
Speaker 1: playing back to bags.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. It's a lot, man, I've seen
Speaker 2: it out of witness to
Speaker 1: The volume